So we all can agree that this is the best L4D campaign, right?
That's not Dark Carnival.
>>344374032
....
Yes but any urban city will always be superior for the zombie format
Move over fag, real best map coming through.
Heavy Rain is way better.
>>344374032
fuck off pub stompers. play a different fucking map for once.
>>344374289
found the tourneyfag
>>344374289
POST >YFW YOU SAW THE PLANE CRASH FOR THE FIRST TIME
>>344374342
Easily heavy rain, when the rain actually starts comming down and things flood the atmosphere is amazing
The other L4D1 campaigns were great, too. I don't understand why the community only plays No Mercy. I get that nobody enjoyed 2's campaigns but the rest of 1's?
L4D has a fucking weird community, I swear.
you now notice Zoey had 3 hands
>>344374032
Yeah.
>>344374151
juggalos get out
>>344374032
yes
>>344374289
This nigga gets it
![...[865]551465761742494.gif](https://i.imgur.com/NQQQXnO.gif "...[865]551465761742494.gif")
>>344374032
God I miss this game
>>344374937
Death Toll sucks
Dead Air has too many closed spaces
For some reason no one plays Blood Harvest
The Passing is great
Dark Carnival is good until the finale
Dead Center is mostly fun
Hard Rain is pretty good
The Parish has fucking shit design
>>344375752
Its still alive you know
why was l4d1 so good and l4d2 so bad
>>344374937
No Mercy was the only versus map for ages
>>344375883
L4D2 wasn't bad. It just wasn't 10/10 like L4D1.
VALVE RESTOCKED MIDNIGHT RIDERS SHIRTS
>>344374032
I like the first better than the second for some reason
>>344375883
because it was a rushed piece of shit that they charged full price for.
literally all l4d1 needed was the inclusion of the charger and spitter and the entire game would have been fixed. it doesn't need gimmick shit and overpowered healing items.
>>344374342
You'd think you would at least get the name of the best campaign right, huh
It's Hard Rain.
Dead Air is the best however.
POWER RANKINGS:
DA > NM >BH >DT > Parish > Hard Rain> SF > The Sacrifice > Crash Course > DarkCarnival > DeadCenter > The Passing
I really didn't like the L4D2 campaigns much.
>>344375883
Regarding versus, I think L4D2 is better. The new infected really helped, the L4D2 maps are mostly ass for versus thou, besides Dark Carnival. The L4D1 maps are fantastic in L4D2 thou.
>>344374032
for L4D1 yes.
the best overall is hard rain. those parts when the really nasty rain hits, visibility drops, and stuff gets hard to hear are intense as fuck, especially on realism.
>>344375883
1 was too goddamn dark everywhere and the controls/gameplay was just horribly off.
2 adjusted the fucking darkness up a bit so you could actually goddamn see and tightened up the controls. Even though 1 had the better maps, when 2 got all of them there was ZERO reason to play 1 any more.
>you will never be able to play bugged L4D1 again, where you could cheese every finale with broken map tricks like shunting props next to the plane to get on top of it
>>344376113
because it actually had animations where your character aims his gun while incapped while in l4d2 your character always aims their gun forward but bullets fly out of the gun in direction you were looking at.
>God Tier
Dark Carnival
Hard Rain
No Mercy
Swamp Fever
>High Tier
Parish
Dead Air
>Mid Tier
Dead Center
Blood Harvest
The Sacrifice
>Low Tier
The Passing
>Didn't play enough to digest tier
Cold Stream
Last Stand
Crash Course
Death Toll
L4D3 when?
>>344376390
>tfw will never push the forklift in front of the elevator in the hospital level or have your whole team do instant m16 magdumps and take a tank down in seconds again.
>>344376390
>you will never be able to replay the pre-release Death Toll map with no invisible walls but then certain roofs had blank textures and you saw right through them
>>344374032
Why does Zoey have three hands?
>>344374032
I HATE HOSPITALS
>>344374289
I HATE PLANES
>>344375206She doesnt
>>344376553
Honestly what the fuck was Cold Stream and why was Valve promoting it? It was by far the worst community map I've ever played.
Also, what's the best community map and why was it Diescraper?
>>344376623
once they fixed all the broken unbalanced shit in L4D2 that has been present since day 1.
SO NEVER. AND FUCK YOU ALL FOR ASKING THIS SHIT ALL THE GODAMN TIME.
YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD THE FUCKING GAME WAS AT NEAR RELEASE. THEY HAVE SINCE PATCHED SO MUCH SHIT BUT IT TOOK SO GODAMN LONG EVERYONE LEFT. NOW ALL THAT REMAINS ARE CASUALFAGS WHO JUST PLAY FOR FUN.
>>344376853
>Honestly what the fuck was Cold Stream
no clue. shit was no fun at all.
>Tfw when 3/4 of your team makes on the helicopter but the last gets knocked down
>You all just awkwardly watch him swarmed
>>344376908
it took like 2 or 3 years to develop. i remember them delaying it for AN ENTIRE YEAR and having no updates at all during that time.
>>344375773
Blood Harvest sucks but I liked it anyway. Same as tc_hydro
I still don't get how they gave us a fatigue meter for melee, but let you swing the axe and any melee weapons endlessly
BAZINGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjdxragMip4
>>344377020
shit man I loved Blood Harvest. on versus anyway. Holding out at the farm at the end was only slightly worse than the rooftop rescue at the end of No Mercy imo.
>>344376853
>Cold Stream and why was Valve promoting it?
Was supposed to be a "What If" campaign. But I don't exactly know why Valve was promoting it
>>344376767
oh fuck what
Are you guys ready for L4D3? It will be so cool.
>>344374152
This. All urban maps are the best
No Mercy
Dead Air
Parish
Dead Center until the milked (muh dawn of the day mall)
Death toll is the most fun. I must've played it at least a hundred times. All four of the original L4D maps are great actually (blood harvest being the worst of the originals). I played L4D1 something stupid like 4-6 hours every night for about a year day in day out. I hated what they did with 2, and it killed the community for 1 so I moved on from the series. I'd like to give it another shot but 2 sucks.
>>344376767
>>344377214
I'm so ready anon,I'm pumped!
Do the L4D1 maps in 2 include the voice acting? I haven't played in a really long time, but I remember being super excited for the map ports, and then really disappointed that there wasn't any fucking voice acting. Felt cheap and empty to me.
>>344374032
Campaign Mode:
No Mercy
>Classic Fun
Dead Air
>Good Challenge
Death Toll
>Good atmosphere and mix of environments
Blood Harvest
>Fuck off and die this map fucking blows and is impossible on Expert.
Dead Center
>It's alright
The Parish
>L4D2 best map set.
Hard Rain
>Close second to The Parish
Swamp Fever
>The worst map set of all map sets even moreso than Blood Harvest
Dark Carnival
>This shit was so overplayed on release, it may be the best map set to so many people because of this.
>>344377214
it's going to be even more streamlined and casualized than ever.
just look at the television ad for L4D2 and tell me that shit isn't for casuals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzTQcKMBAGU
>>344376390
>Hiding under the ramp in NM5
Good times
>>344376390
>>344376646
>>344376694
>you will never be able to bind and spam ridiculously long character voice commands again
>you will never be able to trigger the finale immediately from the spawn room just by using a voice command again
>you will kite a tank back to spawn during the death toll finale and lead it in circles while your team stays at the house wondering where all the zombies went again
>>344376853
>That last part in the campain
>mfw
No fun in Campaign and no fun in VS
By far the worst map
>>344377384
yes. they used to not be there but it was "fixed" in a patch.
>>344377408
Dude, L4D was always for people who play casually. That's why you can play a game in 30 minutes.
>>344374538
>>344377489
>you will never be able to park tanks
SERIOUSLY VALVE. FUCK YOU.
>>344374032
L4D2 is utter fucking dogshit, so let's assume those fucking awful abominations are at the bottom.
Dead Air > No Mercy > Blood Harvest > Death Toll
I will say that all of those campaigns are fucking great and I'd take anyone's opinion on which is best into consideration.
>>344375883
l4d2 was rushed as fuck and its easy to tell from how terrible the animations are
>>344377509
aw sick I'm gonna pick it back up again. Also
>bind zoe's death scream to m1
>bind her laugh to reload
Running around screaming and then laughing was so fucking fun.
I got kicked a lot.
>>344377537
L4D1's main selling point was Versus. Everyone knew this. When you play Versus, you play to win.
Then L4D2 came in and said "hey come play this game. it's got all these gimmicks. bring your friends and play however you want." That and the free weekend/$5 sales is what truly killed L4D2. That and people being fed up with the devs for doing jack shit instead of fixing bugs.
>>344376767
w-what the hell?!
Can we all agree that they should have fixed Zoe's three hands years ago?
>>344374032
The best l4d campaign is No Mercyin payday
>>344376767
>>344376767
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Bind "Hurry!" to reload, shoot, crouch, flashlight and shove.
>Nonstop telling my teammates to hurry the fuck up.
>>344377504
Just beat it on expert last night with some friends and that finale in particular was fucking ass. It took many tries and to be honest I think we only won because we had some lucky bile bomb spawns.
>>344377773
The first time I ever saw or played L4D was when a friend handed me a 360 controller and we played through Death Toll on advanced. It was a ton of fun, for me it's the best since the fifth level is so memorable and enjoyable. There's multiple places to try and hold out, and I have fond memories of trying to survive in the tiny shed to the left or back in the early houses near the start of the level and pushing through to the boat once it arrives. They're all really fun though. Blood harvest has a really fun finale too although the rest of the levels aren't as good. I think No Mercy is the worst finale overall but the rest of the levels are stellar.
>>344374538
>>344375773
>The Passing is great
My nigga. Have no idea why people dont like it, perfect medium length and awesome atmosphere. Blurred lights, covered in fog city in middle of the night. I just wish campaign was more about exploring city instead of going into sewers and kinda meh last map.
Also, this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7vQTe-p92M
imagine if L4D1 got actual updates instead of a sequel that killed it off completely a year later
>>344377260
Really dude? It would be a stupid thing to miss the opportunity to put a mall in one of the campaigns.
Who /only plays L4D1 so there's no new infected or any of that other L4D2 trash/ here?
I will say ONE good thing about L4D2 and that's the sniper rifle, not the hunting rifle, the sniper rifle.
It was either the auto-shotty or assault rifle, that hunting rifle was fucking useless except in that one Death Toll church level where you could snipe all the zombies on the street before you went outside. That powered-up and actually useful sniper was the best (and only good thing about) L4D2 and I wish it was in L4D1 instead of that fucking garbage hunting rifle.
>>344378332
The survival update was amazing. Me and a group of friends played the lighthouse map exclusively for over a month trying to git gud. I don't know what it is about L4D that's so satisfying but it was really something special. Whatever it was, 2 didn't have it at all. I played through each campaign in 2 once and didn't ever go back. It completely lacked the feel of the original, that shit sucked.
>>344378332
I like L4D1 better overall but for some reason I can't remember the campaigns for shit. I can remember all of the L4D2 ones except the last one barring the actual bridge part.
>>344378464
Hunting rifle was great throughout Death Toll and Dead Air. Blood Harvest and No Mercy tended to be closer combat so the shotgun or assault rifle were better for dealing with the hordes, but the hunting rifle definitely wasn't useless.
>>344378553
How do I download that L4D1 DLC level without XBox live or polluting my 360 with L4D2 updates?
>>344374032
why?
>>344378464
>Bothering to shoot commons when you pick the hunting rifle.
>>344378723
Disagree. Never found a use for hunting rifle that assault rifle wasn't better at other than that church in Death Toll.
>>344378332
that's what i'm saying. put the charger and spitter in the game and it will be literally perfect.
>>344378920
>picking the hunting rifle at all
>not reading the whole post
>>344379001
>put the charger and spitter in the game
consider suicide
>>344374032
Hard Rain is the best campaign but was meant for a different kind of zombie game.
>>344378930
Hunting rifle is perfect for specials at range. It's not the best for common infected (although two assault rifles or rifle and shotgun can take down any wave of normals) but against specials it's great. You can take down tanks before they even reach you if you're accurate. Shotguns are slightly OP compared to the rifles but they have a big damage dropoff with range so they're not ideal for many situations. If your group is on low health you'll appreciate being able to pick off ranged enemies without needing to put yourself in direct risk by running up to them.
>>344379094
go back and play the fucking game before you make stupid comments like this
L4D1 maps tend to suffer from long narrow hallways which is instant death for SI and especially the Tank. Adding a Charger will fix this.
Then there is the issue with corner-camping. They fixed this issue somewhat by adding fatigue to shove and putting big dumb rocks in Death Toll's finale and LOL FIRE at Dead Air's finale. A simple spitter will punish players for doing so.
>>344379009
Dingus, if you pick the hunting rifle, you are the dedicated special killer. You take advantage of the rifles penetration to kill boomers and smokers through cover and walls.
>>344377152
What was it a "what if" of?
>>344376195
I'm bad with names, I've played that campaign at least 100 times but the name doesn't stick.
>>344374561
Yeah, can't fire up L4D2 without playing that campaign first.
>>344376113
>>344376453
Also the L4D1 crew in L4D2 lack some bone attachments, so their gun magazines are mispositioned in the gun's stock, and melee weapons are not visible on their back while holstered.
>>344380224
>what if we marketed this really shitty map to people. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
>play L4D2 for 500 hours then quit
>played ~2000 hours of CS:GO since then
>come back to L4D2
>mfw that wall penetration + directional sound that actually works
i hear a cough above me and then a split second later i've aimlocked a smoker through the ceiling and sprayed him down without even thinking about it, shit is fucking incredible
so many hacking accusations in versus
>>344377489
>you will never be able to bind and spam ridiculously long character voice commands again
I miss this shit. I only had one single fucking bind per survivor and they were simple ones. All I wanted was Nick's very loud 'SHIET!' from when an airstrike lands close to him. It was fun to pull survivors to this one spot where an airstrike lands nearby and they'd take about 70 points of damage.
>>344374032
The only problem with No Mercy is Zoey's third hand.
>>344374538
>>344376767
>>344377187
>>344377913
>>344378070
It is just the perspective of the arms.
post >yfw 1hp, black and white mode, expert, rest of team dead, limping towards saferoom with all the special zombies respawned and still a bunch of commons nearby
>>344377367
I need the source for this.
>>344381136
>never ending Keith stories.
>Saving someone from a smoker/charger/hunter disable then going "BURGER TANK TO THE RESCUE" as Coach.
>Tourette's Nick.
>All gone.
Thanks Valve.
>>344377135
>blood harvest on versus
Every time I played on that map, either the entire enemy team would ragequit, or 3 pubs on mine would, and I would play until someone on the enemy team disconnects and switch over.
>>344374538
>>344383075
>THERE'S VIRGIL!
>>344374152
To be fair I liked the hurricane one. I wish there was a hurricane map in an urban setting.
>>344383043
filmmaker
>>344374538
>>344377883
Casual do not mean "do not play to win"
Overwatch is casual and still have a competetive mode.
Casual simply mean that the time amount to become a good player is low.
Binding of Isaac is casual for example. A game is 30 minute. You can play one during your break at work, or after you put the kids to sleep.
Hardcore games require a long commitment.
>>344375883
>no animations on any viewmodels
>fuckhuge weapon models with horrible clipping
>can't see legs when you look down
>all new characters written to be 'the funny guy'
>shoehorned story instead of isolated horror movie scenarios
>Rochelle
>panic events that don't stop until the map ends, one way or another to simulate challenge in L4D1 maps
>L4D1 maps still use hillbilly models of L4D2 specials but city models on commons
>VS was not rebalanced in any meaningful way. The team that wins the first map will continue to win all subsequent maps.
>scavenge sucked
>Rochelle
>>344384823
>rochelle
Not even rule34 could save that abomination.
