>Nintendo shares soar as new Pokemon mobile game captures hearts
>Nintendo shares went up 10% with the release of the new Pokemon game for mobiles
This is the future you chose /v/. All is lost.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nintendo-stocks-idUSKCN0ZO059
>>344328704
how is this the future we chose? do you really think a bunch of autistic neckbeards have the power to change the stock market?
I didn't play that shit.
How do we stop the mobile cancer from killing Nintendo?
>>344328827
This. We're a minority. The only things /v/ started and actually made any sort of noticeable impact are things that spiraled out of our control.
Funny because Nintendo was barely involved with the game and presumably only gets around 15% of the profits it makes.
>Not buying a Wii U because you fell for "no games" meme
>Now Nintendo is going mobile due to success of Miitomo and Pokémon Go
Have fun missing out on the last good gen of Nintendo games, Anon.
>Nintendo is working on Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem games
>Nintendo is developing more mobile games than games for Wii U
it's ogre.
>>344328704
Now imagine if they actually made it a real game, with trading, battling and all that shit.
But no, they rather fail with their NX and WiiU shit.
>>344328704
Is Miitomo still popular?
>>344329461
nope
>>344329372
>Poorfag wants to play main series for free
Go emulate you retard.
>>344328704
It's funny because after about a week everyone playing pokemon go who isn't a diehard nintendo fanboy is going to realize that the game has zero substance and quit.
>>344329051
by letting it happen
Nintendo needs to retire from vidya industry
>>344329051
Did he died?
>>344328704
fine with me. Splatoon already works well on mobile
>>344329538
Mobile games aren't like that.
Especially one with as much social pull as "GUYS LOOK I CAUGHT A CHARMANDER".
Miitomo, however, that was a fucking wash.
>>344329563
>Sega retires from making consoles
>All their IPs go to shit
I'm sure the same would happen for Nintendo.
Keep in mind that none of this means PokemonGo is successful. It just means idiot shareholders are trying to get in on the chance it is.
It's only number one downloaded because it just came out. They haven't actually made any money or anything.
We'll need to wait another couple months to see if people are still playing and actively buying the microtransactions or if everyone realized it's shit and drops it.
Miitomo also shot to #1 downloaded and boosted Nintendo shares however it never even cracked top 100 grossing and was effectively a flop for Nintendo because it didn't actually make any money.
>>344329643
yes they are
in a month, only a few will be playing this garbage
>>344328704
Good, now do F-Zero
>>344329695
All their IPs gather dust because they only ever make Sonic. :(
>>344329643
The social games that have legs all have addictive gameplay elements and, surprisingly, more actual game interactivity than this.
The core part of this game is movement, and after the glitz wears off most people are going to abandon it. Largely because there's nothing to do and no real reward for doing what there is.
>>344329710
I'm not really a /biz/ guy, but how do shares work? Wouldn't Nintendo profit from this immediately, or is it something that would only benefit them if it continually is played and stuff is purchased in it?
>>344329710
>it didn't actually make any money.
Nintendo was talking about profits from Miitomo almost fucking immediately, you idiot.
It wasn't a smash hit but it was clearly good enough for Nintendo to start investing into multiple games.
>>344328704
>/v/
We didn't do shit. /v/ alone can't make Nintendo's stock soar. This is literally every normie downloading Ingress with a pokemon mod and cash shop onto their mobiles.
>>344329367
But they're not actually devoting their own teams to it, are they? They've outsourced it to other companies, so it isn't even distracting from their main projects.
That is probably a part of why Pokemon Go is so spotty. I'd figure if Nintendo made it themselves it might have been more polished, but it probably would have taken longer to come out too.
I didn't download it.
>>344329530
This.
>>344330096
And people will still say Sony is shit despite Nintendo transitioning to mobile.
Fuck this board.
>>344329334
It's not like the Wii U has anything worth buying it for. There's only a few games on it that aren't just financially safe sequels.
The game is going to shed normies who just wanted a quick nostalgia fix really fast, and then its going to shed everybody when sun and moon come out because there's nothing going on in this game.
>>344329939
A very basic description is that people give your company money to buy a small part of it. At the end of the year they get a % of the profit the company makes.
In the short term Nintendo makes money from this, but the shareholders are obviously hoping mobile games do well so they can rake in profits for themselves.
>>344328704
>Wii u plummeting
>everyone and their dog of 90s kids getting pokemon go
Guess mobile gaming is Nintendo's future.
>>344330206
Sony makes mobile games as well you tool.
>>344330132
>But they're not actually devoting their own teams to it, are they?
They have a dude at their stockholder conferences talking about Nintendo developing in-house games and potential mobile controllers, anon. Nintendo's all in-house.
Pokemon wasn't inhouse because Pokemon Company is only partially Nintendo.
>>344329367
Except their not. Why is this board filled with retards?
>>344329367
And they're most definitely are developing more games for the NX than for mobile too. The fact that they aren't developing much for the Wii U anymore means jack shit when you know they have a new console being released in less than a year.
>Nintendo learns they can put Pokemon into something that isn't just mainline games and shit puzzle games and it does well
WOW!!!
A shame they didn't realise this about 12 years ago.
Where is the 3D pokemon game? I thought Nintendo wanted to SELL their console?
Who /doesnthaveasmartphone/ here?
>>344329538
that's not how it works for mobile games.
mobile games are meant to past the time for transistions, such as walking to a place, or waiting to be served dinner, or rdiing the bus/train/carpooling.
Mobile games aren't meant to have depth, thats why they're cheap and are pumped out so damn quickly.
Yeah, and the same exact shit happened when Miitomo came out. You guys still playing Miitomo? When's the last time you guys cracked open Miitomo? When's the last time we had a thread about it?
Oh wait, it didn't have any content and was dead in a week. I give Pokemon Go about a month before it drops off the face of the Earth, just like every other flavor of the month application people put out.
>>344330319
[CITATION NEEDED]
I'm enjoying my mobile Pokémon too. I picked Piplup and I caught a Starly!
>>344329563
>This is what millennials actually believe
>>344330319
>sony
>mobile games
source
>>344330096
Chaddy baby when you gonna drill me?
Srsly though,no reason to own an Xbox. 2017 is gonna be weird
>>344328704
so I can buy nintendo games on my android phone now?
I'm okay with this.
>>344328704
>sensationalistic threads on /v/
holy shit sonyggers are this desperate
>>344330340
>tfw Pokemon Puzzle League didn't become a franchise
I don't care if it was just a cheap Panel de Pon rebrand, slapping Pokemon on that shit meant they could've kept popping new ones out for ages
>>344330319
They retired making them because thy didn't make enough shekels
The normies want more
https://twitter.com/search?q=pokemon%20go%20mario%20kart&src=typd
>>344330206
Sony is shit tho.
Just because that other guy is shit doesn't suddenly mean you're not.
>>344329939
Unless Nintendo has the stuff to back their share price, it doesn't really work in their favor.
Nintendo isn't a pump and dump scam company, so share price alone doesn't matter as much to the company itself, and overvalued price is just asking for trouble once everyone realises that the company is shit.
If the price is high based on feelings alone and not actual facts, then when those feelings go away it's going to eventually go back where it belongs in the long run. And Nintendo is a "long run" type of company so that isn't good.
>>344330002
No they didn't you fucktard.
They talked exclusively about download numbers, it never made anywhere close to the actual money they wanted.
>>344330575
>third party developer
>which sony retired
yeah nah
fuck you nintendo shill
>>344329051
what is it about these kinda gifs thats so unnerving?
>>344328704
All those Nintendrone crybabies led up to this moment for Nintendo. "I WANT M-MUH NOSTALGIA" and not accepting all of the cool original shit Nintendo pumps out. Pathetic.
>>344330319
>>344330421
>>344330489
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knacks-quest/id727485111?mt=8
>>344328704
"we" didnt chose shit. in fact it was chosen for us *because we are the minority*. we are literally the only ones who stood in opposition to this development but we were outvoted.
Did anybody think it wasn't going to be a thing.
handhelds are becoming less popular.
Wii-u flopped.
mobile is ezmone and nintendo can jew out all they won't with little to no criticism.
Shiggy lost it years ago.
And they have all their other studios work on shovelware.
>>344329538
It really doesn't seem like it will matter. The amount of people actively playing might decrease, but these games operate on rabid users anyways. There will be people out there paying for all the goodies in order to get ahead, and they'll be taking gyms for years. No doubt the game will get updates because it's probably making Niantic a nice chunk of cash.
It's already apparently topping the store in earnings, so it's going to turn a profit. Nintendo will definitely put some more money and attention into the mobile market after this, though I doubt it's going to ruin them or become their focus. Nintendo is all about their brand, and they almost certainly know that the bedrock of their brand is their console business. It wouldn't make sense to just go fully mobile and casual, it would water down their brands if the only thing behind them were casual mobile games. They need game industry hype. If Splatoon had started as some shit mobile game, it would have no strong branding. But it's a hit acclaimed video game with a huge fanbase fueling it, so a casual mobile game would probably get some success.
>>344330401
I work in mobile game development. Unless there's a big content influx to this game, it's not going to keep a whole lot of people for extended periods of time. There's less to this game than in just about every mobile game that's ever gotten a stable long term following, and a big part of what you are supposed to do isn't going to help you kill time unless your location lines up with something good.
At best, it's a game that will be checked briefly before someone loads up a different game.
>>344330096
BALLLLLLLLIN
>>344328704
Cool. I see nothing wrong with this.
>>344330648
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+Sony+own+Naughty+Dog%3F
>inb4 it's okay when Sony does it
>>344330340
They did 20 years ago.
>>344328704
>It was inevitable.
Mobile already ate up most of Sony's handheld market share, so it's a matter of time before they eat up Nintendo's.
>>344330648
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/uncharted-fortune-hunter/id1104415942?mt=8
>By PlayStation Mobile Inc.
>It was released 3 months ago and got an update 2 weeks ago, so there's no way Sony shuttered the dev already
Are you a legitimate shill?
>>344330096
so then all we have to look foreward to are "games" whose gameplay is equivalent to watching a movie on a computer and occasionally moving the mouse or pressing a key to stop the screen was going to sleep?
>>344330096
At least they're not turning everything into slots or pachinko.
>tfw I'd actually play a bona fide pokemon on mobile, not Ingressmon
>>344330334
They probably aren't developing shit for the NX. 9 months away and all anyone knows about it is that it exists.
>>344330626
>only competent console maker
>shit
Keep telling yourself that, Nintendildo.
>>344328704
>This is the future you chose /v/
It's the normies who made it go this way.
>>344328704
Fuck this game I was robbed at knife point because of this game, lost my fucking Iphone this is dangerous man.
I hate this game why do i let it hurt me so much
>Last night of vacation by the water, but no signal
>five bars 10 min walk into the wilderness for some reason
>try to adventure last night but recent new moon and cloud cover made navigating impossible even though the game was working
>try again this afternoon and still have the bars, but only get 'NP GPS LOCATION' or whatever; avatar keeps being placed in the middle of huge lake where I am
>but I'm at the ocean
>>344330951
>playing western games
sup westacuck
>>344330320
>Nintendo's all in-house.
No, they specifically partnered with Dena to offload the work as well as other teams like Niantic.
>>344330096
Sony has also been in the talks about making Playstation a streaming service for a bunch of devices, so they're not entirely safe either
>>344331123
Wasn't that just a rumour?
>>344331018
>>only competent console maker
I bet you'll be first in line to buy your slightly upgraded PS4 Neo
I'm honestly okay with this, if it means I don't have to buy another shitty nintendo console. I have my phone with my all day anyways, so if they make something cool for it, I'll actually pay attention to it. I didn't buy a Wii U and I'm glad, there are like two games on it I'd be interested in playing, but I'd never buy the console for it, so I guess I'm coming out on top here.
>>344328704
i didn't chose anything the future goes on without me
>>344330206
This is the board that shilled the Wii U for 8 months during its darkest hours. What do you expect?
>>344331231
Do you honestly believe they'll put something like Breath of the Wild on mobile
>>344328704
I never Even realised how this shit will effect the gaming industry. No wonder Konami decided to go mobile only. Fuck this gay earth I want off this ride.
>>344331379
Why would they do that when they have their entire nes-GBA/possibly DS to jew out still?
>>344331379
Don't care if they do, re-read the post. I'm not buying a new console for one game, and many others feel the same. BOTW looks good, but it's not worth the price of game + console.
>>344330206
I jumped off the Sony train once they put in paid online. Nintendo going mobile is terrible though.
>>344331825
>muh paid online
Both the Vita and PS3 are still free, faggot.
>>344331904
I own a PS3 and a Vita. I'm just not getting a PS4.
>>344331904
Not that guy, but the PS3 is last gen, and the vita hasno games
>>344331825
But anon, it's only 5 dollars!
>>344331018
>being the best shit sculpter means you're not shit
whatever you say buddy.
>>344329530
You're fucking retarded.
Not only do i own the main series on a 3ds, but you gotta realise how much potential money there is. Their stock went up 10% on a shitty, laggy game that's barely working, what if the servers would be stable with the game getting actual gameplay.
It would shit all over your shitty cartridges in money making. Mobile is the future, the WiiU was a stillbirth, the NX will be too. Nintendo is finished either way.
>>344330096
You are aware that the second Microsoft and Steam get into bed is the second Sony gets deleted, right?
>>344328704
It was going to happen eventually. It's a miracle they held out this long.
Fortunately my backlog should last me the rest of my life anyways.
>>344332291
>I own them false flag
Try harder.
I think this is a good thing.
Phones aren't going away, and a lot of Nintendo's games could easily work on these devices.
If Nintendo wants to make more hardware, make a really good, really reliable attachable phone-gamepad.
>>344330096
that actually means sony fades into irrelevancy.
>>344332365
>he unironically believes the "Microsoft is going to buy out Valve" meme
>>344332648
Yes I can't wait to lug my gamepadphone out with me everywhere. If only there were a piece of hardware that could already do that in a compact form.
>>344332931
Nah, it means they become the rightful king of videogames.
PC gaming is dead, and only casual retards care about mobile.
Mobile games are not long term success. They are quick cash that burns out quickly (No one cares about Miitomo anymore). This is exactly what shareholders want though, so we'll continue to see cheap, low quality nongames like this to pad out their actual gaming ventures.
>>344330447
Id think it'd be reversed. We remember when Nintendo was good. Mellinials were barely alive when Nintendo had a good console
>>344332937
God no. Gabe hates MS, but has publicly stated that MS is allowed to sell their games in his store.
>>344332065
Because all Sony fanboys are the same person that shares the same feelings about everything.
>>344333063
Like the Wii or amiibos
>>344328704
>Nintendo is moving away from underpowered, overpriced proprietary hardware (consoles)
HOW IS THIS BAD
>>344333057
>PC gaming is dead
It's actually the healthiest it's ever been.
>>344333013
Most people would rather use one device that can do two things over needing two devices. This is how phones killed MP3 players.
The gamepad will be a addon, like headset.
>>344332937
Microsoft does want a closed platform though where they control the profits
>>344332447
So you're acknowledging that my argument is correct? Instead of shitposting you could've just said so.
If pokemon would switch to mobile it would make so much profit it could even save nintendo.
>>344328704
I don't think this pokemon game has any longevity. As a recognized and popular IP it will have great numbers initially, but I expect it to fall off the map fairly fast.
>>344333394
Moving to underpowered, overpriced hardware tied to expensive service plans.
>>344333483
=\= MP3 players died because people figured out that it's just fucking software.
But touchscreens are awful, and no one is going to want to bring their gamepad attachment with them everywhere
>>344333483
People don't like add on hardware for phones. Barely anyone uses a headset and people don't want to lug around a controller and a phone. If you are going to bring a gamepad and a phone you may as well just bring a handheld and a phone.
>>344333424
that's just quite literally not true
you want healthy pc gaming? try the late 80's/early 90's
THAT was a healthy PC gaming environment
>>344333698
>MP3 players died because people figured out that it's just fucking software.
I doubt that. It's surprising how tech-illiterate most people are when they use a smart phone 24/7.
>>344333293
I'm guessing that even gaben has his price
in his case though, unlike notch, it might be too high for even microsoft to afford
>>344333861
What's your definition of healthy exactly?
Steam is only growing.
Gog is growing.
PC games continue getting made.
>>344333698
>just software
This has nothing to do with why people stopped using mp3 players.
People who were willing to carry 3ds' and vitas around with them are willing to carry a gamepad if it fits in your pocket.
>>344333610
So many wrong assumptions here that I'm not even sure where to begin
>>344333698
Other way. Early Cell Phones (think Motorola RAZR, etc) died when apple stuck a phone and internet browser into their iPod touch.
>>344333983
Nah, Gabe's said that he'll never SELL to MS, but hes open for MS selling their games on Steam. And that's probably all MS can ask for.
That being said MS have stupid amounts of money, and like you said, even Gabe might have his price.
>>344329051
I'M SLOWLY DRIFTING TO YOU
>>344333347
Pretty much
>>344334059
We aren't talking about /v/, we're talking about your average normies.
Nintendo can't sustain both parties by a mobile-only method. They're going to have to choose to either keep fighting themselves with both or go mobile-only and possibly home console.
On one hand, I really like Nintendo and would like to see a better flow of games from them. On the other hand, mobile is cancer and Nintendo actually releases better games when they are doing shittier than usual. Overall, I'm indifferent.
>>344333983
Gabe actually tried to team up with Microsoft initially, they said "Fuck you" and released Windows 8 with their own app store, which is when Valve went into full damage control mode and started pushing Linux gaming. Given that Steam Machines didn't take off as much as they wanted them too, I'm guessing he would be fine with a peace offering with Microsoft.
>>344331018
>competent
intredasting..
>Checking my Robinhood account as I leave work.
>Normie coworker walks up and asks if I caught any pokemon.
Where the fuck were you 20 years ago ?
>>344333587
I'm pretty sure they had this planned
That's why it only has the original 151. They're going to inevitably put in the rest.
Also, it's a pokemon game, Pokemon games don't fall off the map
>>344330648
>pokemon go
>Niantic labs
>not third party
>it's another pokemon saves nintendo episode
>>344334059
Most people carrying around handhelds when they travel out aren't jamming them in pockets, they have a bag of some sort.
This has been the case for so long where the only people jamming this stuff in pockets are people who have huge pants/cargo pants that I don't know why anybody keeps acting like handhelds are primarily pocket gadgets.
>>344328704
THE NEXT INEVITABLE INDUSTRY CRASH WILL SAVE NINTENDO YOU'LL SEE
>>344334485
Pokemon is "cool" again now that's its on phones.
Normies are fucking bizarre.
>ingress
>nah senpai dont care
>ingress... with pokemon
>OMG BEST GAME EVAR
>>344334616
This has already saved Nintendo dumb falseflagger
>>344334491
Adding more pokemon won't fix the game. It needs to give you stuff to actually do.
>>344334671
That's the power of brands, anon.
>>344334629
That's what will happen if Nintendo goes third party
They'll be "NINTENDONIGGERS ON SUICIDE WATCH" for like a year, then all of a sudden they'll be all over their games when they were calling them kiddie shit before
>>344334712
Don't worry goy proper battles will be coming soon.. for a fee of course..
>>344334865
>Battle timers and energy bars
>Have to either drive to pokemon center location to refill or pay $1
>Battles are still super gimped
I can see it now...
>>344334965
Welcome to mobile gaming
>>344328704
Good. They can't make good console games worth a fuck, and haven't been able to, for years now.
The only reason the Wii U even sold any more was because they hired back that fucking stupid cunt Sakurai so he could make Smash and plague it with DLC, while blue balling everyone for months and months until said DLC was fully complete. They squeezed out as much money as they could with Smash in the sleaziest, scummiest way possible and it worked.
The new Zelda looks like more of the fucking same, but with little new insignificant quirks here and there. They're fucking done. They have to make a full jump for mobile. They can't survive on normies buy their consoles for one game for much longer.
>>344334965
>Have to drive to a Pokemon center to heal your Pokemon
Nintendo is going to make random businesses a lot of revenue if they end up being a designated pokemon centers.
>>344335101
>The new Zelda looks like more of the fucking same
>>344335101
Amiibos. Amiibos are the scummy way they rung people out for cash.
The smash dlc was totally fine next to that shit.
>>344333394
>Nintendo is moving away from underpowered, overpriced proprietary hardware (consoles) to fucking nothing
>>344335154
There's too many locations to scout this way. They'll always just use an algorithmic method like they are now.
>>344330096Chad why didn't you fight the Voice for Snow Halation
>>344335101
>so he could make Smash and plague it with DLC, while blue balling everyone for months and months until said DLC was fully complete. They squeezed out as much money as they could with Smash in the sleaziest, scummiest way possible and it worked.
It's not okay when Nintendo does it
>>344333698
What's the difference between bringing an attachment and brining a whole handle console?
I also wouldn't be supposed if Nintendo just made a case that has a slide out gamepad.
>>344329051
You can't. Mobile fever is a cancer. Over it takes hold it's all over.
>>344335413
Well, the way they usually do it is disc locked content, so...
That's okay, I stopped caring about pokemon after gen 5 and 6 sucked.
>>344335547
The Smash characters weren't disc locked though
>>344335419
Different phone models of varying ages and pricing offer wildly different experiences in terms of compatibility and performance. Unless you lowball to shit, they become unplayable for many people.
Your peripheral example, for example. How do you make sure your audience owns it? How do you make sure they have it on them whenever they might feel the urge to play? How does it connect? How nice does it play with more and less popular phone models? How well does it fit all of these models of varying sizes?
>>344334348
Or, they can just release a standalone tablet a-la the Wii U gamepad, give it an android-based proprietary OS so Pokemon Go and the rest of their mobile suite are launch titles, give it specs good enough to play Zelda BotW, and then top it off with an optional phone service to use all that infrastructure they've been building over the past year.
Having the NX be a traditional tablet that can play fucking Zelda at the $300~$500 price range would blow the current tablet market the fuck out, and would be infinitely more appealing than buying a home console.
>>344334451
>PSX
>great success
>PS2
>great success
>PS3
>moderate success
>PS4
>great success
>>344335419
Probably nothing anymore.
It's probably not even an issue considering phablets and people literally bringing their tablets with them as well.
the future is weird.
>>344335872
>PS3
>moderate
*great
>people acting like this is a good thing
I don't care if you hate pokemon or some shit, but don't start complaining once your favorite game goes full mobile too.
>>344335938
>don't start complaining once your favorite game goes full mobile too.
Which Nintendo game went full mobile? Did they announce Sun and Moon for iPhones or something?
>>344335785
>Nintendo OH-Ya!
pls no
i guess mobile/home console is probably their future
>>344335938
The biggest hindrance is touchscreen controls. Yeah you can use a bluetooth controller but it sort of defeats the purpose of "mobile."
>>344336105
If a mobile device has specs on-par with a console and can literally play current console games, how would it be bad?
>>344335919
That's the one time where Sony fucked up. CELL was too hard to program for and Xbox 360 actually had more Jap developed games than Sony.
>>344336326
>a mobile device has specs on-par with a console
its 30 minute battery life
>>344336418
>Xbox 360 actually had more Jap developed games than Sony.
sounds like something you just pulled out of your ass mate
>>344336051
I was talking about game franchises. Like breath of fire, dungeon keeper, megaman (if that even counts) and some other random games that I can't remember.
>>344336238
>The biggest hindrance is touchscreen controls
No, the biggest hindrance is the userbase.
When you manage to get millions of downloads on a unfinished game that isn't even a game then you know that something is wrong. They don't need to make games if they go mobile, just put the pokemon title and you're all set. I mean, just look at all the fucking Frozen games in the shop with fucking millions of downloads.
>>344336445
Keep it plugged in.
>But I want to go out with it
Home consoles aren't portable at all, yet suddenly it's a problem?
>>344328704
Man I don't even care anymore. Pretty much every series they had that I liked is gone or getting fucked until it's gone.
>>344336714
Love this logic.
>hey here's all those great games you can now play on your phone anywhere!
>oops no battery though, just plug it in!
>you know have a weaker, more tedious, less fun console!
Fucking normies.
>>344328704
As an aspiring game developer working with Unreal Engine 4 who wants to work on mobile games, this is AMAZING news. Modern iOS and Android devices are much more powerful than both the DS and Vita. Also, smartphones and tablets have a MUCH larger market base than either of those dedicated handheld platforms. 6.1 BILLION smartphone users are expected by 2020; that is a gold mine and for game developers to not want to take advantage of that is just nonsensical.
https://techcrunch.com/2015/06/02/6-1b-smartphone-users-globally-by-2020-overtaking-basic-fixed-phone-subscriptions/
Of course /v/ wants gaming to go back to the days of being exclusive and niche because they have an irrational dislike of "normies" so much, but I believe that gaming should become as ubiquitous as movies, music and books.
>PC replaces consoles
>Mobile replaces handhelds
I'm ok with this.
Mobile is objectively better than consoles or handhelds. Mobile is a free open platform, at least on Android. Anyone can develop a game for it. Everyone owns a mobile already. No more buying shitty expensive hardware with no games like Vita. No more carrying around a bulky dork flag like the 3DS. You just get great games, often for free. No more $40-50 games.
Mobile is the cure to the handheld cancer.
>>344336995
ayy
AYY
>>344336949
How about you use some actual logic?
>It's a home console with the option of being portable, an option that's currently unavailable on almost every single home console (yet no one even THINKS about this)
>>344330319
>>344330421
>>344330489
>>344330685
https://web.archive.org/web/20160706183135/http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11296898/sony-forwardworks-playstation-smartphone-games
Besides, even if Sony didn't make any mobile games, they are still going head first into the VR gimmick fad. They are still perpetuating cancer of some form or another.
>>344330618
>All that Mario Kart
Why do they think Mario Kart would work on a mobile?
Pokemon go is a very different style.
Pokemon Go is actually kinda fun, hope they add more to it soon.
Enjoying how much it reminds me of geocaching
>>344337192
HOME CONSOLES IMPLY HOME
MOBILE IMPLIES MOBILITY
YOU AREN'T MOBILE IF YOU'RE TIED DOWN TO AN OUTLET.
THIS IS WHY MOBILE GAMING IS SHIT FOR ANYTHING BEYOND KING SHIT.
>>344337132
>You just get great games
Maybe it's just me but I like a little more stimulation than Angry Birds or Candy Crush.
I also like buttons.
>>344328704
Honestly it's a fun dumb little mobile game. Really really wish it was more fleshed out. But s'good. Nice seeing actually decent pokemon models on a non fucking shitty screen
>>344328704
>getting gamers off their asses
>somehow a bad thing
Outside of the game being a battery whore I fail to see the problem.
>>344337221
Because people think they're going to be able to street-race each-other.
Game Freak and Niantic have to act fast now and capitalize on this immense popularity upswing that will last a few weeks at most. GO as it is right now is way too barebone to last beyond being a shortlived fad.
But I honestly don't think Niantic can do that. They obviously underestimated the sheer popularity behind Gen 1 and most likely thought that the game would have a player base not much larger than ingress. Niantic simply doesn't have the experience to reign catch in.
>>344337221
>place pone on dashboard of car
>join other people
>start swerving all over the place throwing plush turtle shells out your window
>place/8 shows in corner of screen
Don't worry if you crash or flip, latiku is there to help.
>>344337315
Pokemon Go isn't fun. My neighbor yelled at me for wandering around the yard with a camera while his teen daughter was in the pool in her bikini. When I told him I was playing Pokemon he looked even more disappointed in me than when he thought I was a pervert.
>>344336973
>Modern iOS and Android devices are much more powerful than both the DS and Vita.
3DS is a given but even the Vita?
I've not looked into it at all and don't play much on my android but what smartphone is comparable/stronger than the vita?
>>344337536
Sounds hot. Give her the D
>>344337536
Just turn of the AR you idiot.
>>344337501
Oh shit, I think you might be right.
My hope was it was the only other Nintendo IP they knew.
>>344337375
>HOME CONSOLES IMPLY HOME
>MOBILE IMPLIES MOBILITY
And a mobile home console implies a home console you can...take with you? Is this really such a difficult concept for you to grasp?
>THIS IS WHY MOBILE GAMING IS SHIT FOR ANYTHING BEYOND KING SHIT.
How does the portability of the hardware having any bearing on the quality of the software?
>>344330421
Fate/Grand Order is Sony's mobile game
>tfw multiple people have already gotten dates thanks to go because they ended up meeting people while out on the hunt
>>344329051
Thats a deep gif man.
>>344336973
Touchscreen controls are shit. Smartphone UI in general is shit. "Normies" probably won't even be playing any of the good games that come out for them and the mobile market will continue to stagnate with popular shovelware as it has been doing for years. Enjoy your microtransactions.
>My face whenever someone says Nintendo is doomed or dying
Pokemon go shit is all over my normiebook page. Normies are hopping all over this shit, even though I couldn't give a shit about it since I don't like phone game shit.
Going to laugh as Nintendo continues to make consoles and such while you ponies cry about it.
>>344337536
so now you can take pictures of little girls and pretend you're playing pokemon
nice desu
http://imgur.com/8uX9VAy
>>344330292
??????
The only way you get direct cash from owning shares is if the company pays dividends. Dividends are not derived from profits like this dumbfuck thinks. Nintendo does pay a dividend but it's disgustingly small compared to Airlines/Refineries/Banks.
The main purpose of buying public shares from an investor's standpoint is to hope to buy something that is perceived to be priced low and then sell at a time in which the price goes up from what you originally paid for and then realize a profit. People are buying Nintendo shares in the same way that people bought Tesla shares thinking that what they are doing will make the company more profitable in the FUTURE. In other words people are gambling that whatever the fuck Nintendo is doing now will eventually make them a more valuable company.
>>344338005
>on facebook
>not a normie
normie out
>>344331018
What good is a console without games.
>>344337221
How about Mario Party?
>>344337947
That's right anon, Idolm@ster is a game on the Xbox 360.
>>344338047
they all look like r/pokemon
>>344328704
If the game wasn't gen 1 pokemon exclusively it wouldn't have taken off as fast and good.
>>344338128
I use it solely to redpill them slowly so they're a bit more tolerable to spend time with.
Plus whenever I get shitfaced drunk I can't stop talking about politics, which scares away libs.
>>344338178
>implying
>>344338005
Anon think about it
If Nintendo made a game (software) for a non nintendo platform and it "sold" like hotcakes.
Why would that encourage them to make make more hardwear?
>>344338481
another remake...... never seen that before.
>>344329051
This gif is literally me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/4rvev4/im_going_on_a_date_this_weekend_because_of/
>>344338481
That is a movie, anon. Not a game.
>>344338672
Because
1. They didn't make this, it was outsourced.
2. Nintendo likes working with their own hardware
3. Nintendo likes RECEIVING royalties from other devs, and doesn't want to pay it (this is what 100% makes them stay as hardware devs rather than jump to MS and Nintendo, the small boost in sales they'd get on other platforms does not equal the amount they get from royalties / don't lose in royalties by being on their own)
4. Nintendo completely owns the dedicated handled gaming market right now
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>>344328704
Pokemon Go is part of the pokemon company mobile strategy, not Nintendo. And they have actually gone mobile for quite a few years now.
fuck off rat this is my food
>>344339185
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU BUY A WINDOWS PHONE XDROFLMAO
>>344338974
SAVAGE
>>344338949
>1. They didn't make this, it was outsourced.
Why would outsourcing your IP make you want to create more hardwear?
>2. Nintendo likes working with their own hardware
Nintendo is a business, If the system doesn't sell it's not financially feasible to continue.
regardless of a personal preference.
>3. Nintendo likes RECEIVING royalties from other devs, and doesn't want to pay it (this is what 100% makes them stay as hardware devs rather than jump to MS and Nintendo, the small boost in sales they'd get on other platforms does not equal the amount they get from royalties / don't lose in royalties by being on their own)
Again, If it doesn't sell it's not financially feasible, Whether they like that or not is really irrelevant.
>4. Nintendo completely owns the dedicated handled gaming market right now
You mean the one that crashing and becoming irelivent due to mobile games?
You know a new game just came out called Pokemon go it's blowing up among normies, can you play that on a Nintendo handheld anon?
>>344329051
The only escape is death
>>344339756
yeah and you can turn in pokemon you catch for candy which in turn gives you more cp...
all while you are at some pokemon stop near a playground or kindergarten with your phone out
>>344338974
Wow
>>344339185
Only Microsoft still makes games for WP10 anymore.
>>344330334
>NX meme
>>344339875
>closest pokestop is a playground
>closest gym is a mental hospital
Should I just delete my account?
>>344340019
>meme meme
>>344339185
I feel ya man. The lack of apps was my only problem back when I had a windows phone. Other than that I fucking loved it. It had the slick interface comparable to Iphones, but it had options and shit like Androids.
>>344339837
>Why would outsourcing your IP make you want to create more hardwear?
Because their devs would rather work with dedicated hardware. Their devs have a say in things too
>Nintendo is a business, If the system doesn't sell it's not financially feasible to continue. Regardless of a personal preference.
Good thing that, even with its low sales, the Wii U was profitable then! It also lets them continue milking amiibo, and immensely profitable system
>Again, If it doesn't sell it's not financially feasible, Whether they like that or not is really irrelevant.
Good thing it's still profitable
>You mean the one that crashing and becoming irelivent due to mobile games?
Yea, I mean the one that will sell 60m hardware units in its lifetime
>You know a new game just came out called Pokemon go it's blowing up among normies, can you play that on a Nintendo handheld anon?
No, but I will be able to play the game with actual depth called pokemon sun / moon. Can you play that on a phone?
tfw comfy
>>344328704
>Nintendo shares went up 10% with the release of the new Pokemon game for mobiles
Isn't that a good thing?
The times, they are a-changin'
>>344340398
He's saying it's bad because the success means they might try to push more stuff to mobile.
>>344330489
Sony has reported that F/GO has been making them a shit ton of money.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/edited-transcript-6758-t-earnings-200357448.html
>The third reason has to do with the diversification. Fate/Grand Order, a smartphone game developed by Aniplex, which is a subsidiary of Sony Music Entertainment Japan, has become a hit and this is contributing significantly to our profitability.
>>344340678
So, he's a butthurt Sony fan making stuff up?
>>344330206
>Implying /v hasn't already gone full Neogaf and doesn't circlejerk over Sony with every chance they get
wew
>>344340678
It's also a good thing because they will keep them alive to the market so they will also release console games.
SquareEnix prints money with smartphone games but that didn't stopped them making big budget games for consoles.
>>344328704
First of all 10% is not what I'd call soar and secondly Pokémon Go isn't a Nintendo game.
>>344329051
Datesim JRPG.
>>344336973
The "normie" dislike is due to said appeals equaling to most games:
>being very easy and less-complex/challenging
>catering to every group, including loud non-players
>mobile-wise being Candy Crush/Tomb Runner-tier pay2wins
>stagnating in the same genres (ex: gritty military shooters)
>avoiding anything "troublesome" and outside plainer contexts
Otherwise, in a brighter future, I'd like to believe the same outlook you have and smartphones being utilized to run actual neat games,and bring on the attention of new developers who didn't previously care about vidya.
It's just that enough capitalistic choices done and continued today have jaded those hopes for many.
>>344328704
What if
Follow me here
What if Nintendo made mobile games
And they were GOOD?
Because, regardless of how you feel about them, Nintendo's games always have a level of polish that most regular games can't approach, let alone mobile junk
>>344343079
Pokemon Go isn't Nintendo's first mobile game, you know.
Miitomo isn't either.
They're all shit, anon. You're proposing they do a complete magical 180 after all this time?
>>344330251
>It's not like the Wii U has anything worth buying it for.
Shut the fuck up, it has some amazing games.
>There's only a few games on it that aren't just financially safe sequels.
Can't really argue with this.
>>344343079
>Nintendo
>good games
>let alone mobile
What are you even talking about, you madman.
>>344343179
>>344343245
I always hate this part of arguing on 4chan
Because now I'm gonna go "But Pokemon Go is good!" and "Miitomo, while barely being a game, isn't terrible either!"
And instead of a counter-argument, you're just gonna go ">Pokemon Go >good *animereactionface.webm* and we all get nowhere
>>344336973
Great, a game designer who makes sweeping generalizations because he's confronted with an opinion he doesn't want to understand. The industry sure needs more of those.
Just try to be open minded in the future and cosidern things from more than one angle.
>>344342895 says it pretty well and honestly this can all be reasoned from looking at how 99% of mobile games come out.
>>344343689
Pokemon GO is an overall shallow title that can barely be called an actual game.
You simply walk around and collect sprites with no real challenge or difficulty.
You then either pay money or use the collected sprites to arbitrarily boost up another sprite's level.
"Battling" might as well be a cutscene. It's repetitive and has no skill or depth thanks to being literally two buttons, which is impressive considering how basic the source material already is.
And that's it. That's the FULL depth of the "game". I just summarized literally everything this app has to offer in three bullet points.
To put it as bluntly as possible, the game had the potential to be an even more casual version of Pokemon for people who like to go outside. Instead, it's practically nothing and a disappointment all around. This joke of a game would be absolutely ignored if it didn't have the Pokemon name attached to it.
There's your fucking argument.
>>344328704
retard
what a shit thread
>>344344146
Dark Souls is an overall shallow title that can barely be called an actual game.
You simply manipulate polygons on a screen with no actual challenge or difficulty
I can be stupid and reductionist too
>>344331002
how long do you think it takes to make games
>>344344146
That's NOT the whole game though.
In fact, that's not even really the GAME. That's like saying "You move forward and push A to jump, and THAT'S THE WHOLE GAME! Mario Bros is shit!"
The actual capital G Game part comes in when you start battling for gyms and collecting pokemon and items at poke-stops. The app itself is really only half the experience.
And even then, just taking the app by itself, it's already ten times the quality and polish of what mobile games usually are.
>>344328704
I've already said that if Nintendo goes mobile, I'm fucking done with Nintendo games.
I'll just stick with the classics and not give a fuck about new games. Fuck mobile.
Will mobile casuals stay with Nintendo when it goes mobile or will they abandon Nintendo shortly after completely ruining the company.
>>344344368
I always hate this part of arguing on 4chan
Because now I'm gonna go "But my argument wasn't reduction and the fact that you think so shows how basic the game is on a core level. I had valid points that many other people sympathize with and your response was practically a nonsensical shitpost."
And instead of a counter-argument, you're just gonna go ">my argument >shit *animereactionface.webm*" and we all get nowhere
>>344344649
nice blog post
>>344344606
>And even then, just taking the app by itself, it's already ten times the quality and polish of what mobile games usually are.
Alright buddy let's not get carried away.
>makes one mobile game
>goes mobile
???
>>344344606
>The actual capital G Game part comes in when you start battling for gyms and collecting pokemon and items at poke-stops. The app itself is really only half the experience.
But, again, all you're describing is
>Walk here, get pointless shit
>Repeat
with a coat of Pokemon paint over it. Outside of being told to visit certain real-world locations, there's nothing to DO. There's no GAMEPLAY. You simply visit places, watch numbers go up, do a joke of a "battle", and you're done. That's it. That's the full extent of the game.
And no, that isn't "reduction". That's literally what the game is.
Seriously, when I first heard they were making an AR geocache Pokemon app, I was excited as fuck because such a vague prompt had room for so, so, so much more.
>this game does really well
>nintendo actually steps in and adds the necessary features and adds working servers
>They add a one time paywall for the features but you don't have to worry about micro-transactions anymore
>VR actually improves and they fix the battery issues
how hyped would you be.
>>344329051
Considering Most Wii U games look like they were made for Android is too late
I can't wait for the glorious Sony monopoly
>>344329334
They did fuck up with the wiiU though. Why do you think they haven't released any notable games in a while
>>344328704
>>344340678
Where in the article reads that Nintendo will change to mobile stuff?
>>344340298
>1 hour later
fuck off I was playing Overwatch.
>Because their devs would rather work with dedicated hardware. Their devs have a say in things too
If the system doesn't sell it's not financially feasible to continue.
>Good thing that, even with its low sales, the Wii U was profitable then! It also lets them continue milking amiibo, and immensely profitable system
Stocks picked up when they release on foreign hardware, Nintendo profits down 61%
>Good thing it's still profitable
See above.
>Yea, I mean the one that will sell 60m hardware units in its lifetime
Which is less than previous sales.
>No, but I will be able to play the game with actual depth called pokemon sun / moon. Can you play that on a phone?
That particular game? No.
Mobile is however more powerful and has a higher install base than the 3DS.
Its also more profitable.
>>344345349
Because buying stupid McDonald's-tier toys to play your game is much better, right?
>>344333221
>snes
>not a good console
Asking a question here to people who know/have children... what do kids play together (as in splitscreen or in the same room) nowadays?
Do they all play with online multiplayer or sometimes use consoles together?
>>344346165
Nice strawman, my fellow sonybro
>>344330069
>normie
Back to your normalfag board >>>/r9k/
>>344328704
>This is the future you chose /v/
No, Nintendo chose this future. Nintendo had shitty marketing for the WiiU.
>>344330383
hhahaha broke nigga
>>344336973
So how many of those 6.1 B users would consider doshing out cash to play games? Just because the pool of people to sell to is large doesn't mean a majority of people will actually buy games. Another thing to consider is that touch screen controls can be garbage depending on what you are playing.
>>344330383
Just you, summerfag
>>344328704
So this is now Nintendo ends by turning into a mobile games company
Nothing of value would be lost
>>344329051
You don't. It was inevitable.
Going to see how the NX turns out. It will probably be shit. At that point the only reason I'd be sticking around is for Zelda, BoTW and maybe some of their upcoming TV and movie adaptations.
>>344340398
>>344340832
>>344340982
People said the same thing about the casual shovelware cancer that plagued the Wii.
No. No, it's not good.
>>344332291
>Their stock went up 10% on a shitty, laggy game that's barely working, what if the servers would be stable with the game getting actual gameplay.
they could either
>make shitty mobile trash and make a lot of money
or
>spend millions in good game and make the same amount of money
which one would you choose anon?
>>344343079
>Miitomo
>Pokemon Go
Not off to a good start.
>>344352081
Everyone with a brain should know that Nintendo will choose option one after what happened to the Wii.
>>344330421
>Plasystation All-Stars Island DRINK COKE ZERO
Nintendo is already moving onto something else by making Amiibos and building theme parks. As time goes they will be left the game industry, or at very least they will make it their second or third priority
>>344337221
they want to run around pretending they're driving karts.
>that Kid who ran past you screaming 'I'M THE BEST' in Toad's voice before hitting oncoming traffic on the way to school
>>344329834
And Yakuza. And they get the license to make Miku. Sega's IPs started garnering dust since the Saturn days.
>>344332365
>Sony
>going anywhere
>especially when they have the entire country of Japan on their side
Nah, Sony will still exist. The only reason Sony hasn't become completely irrelevant is BECAUSE of their Japanese monopoly.
>>344345349
Become a computerfag then.
Consoles are fucked at this point.
>>344353034
The only thing that would have made that better would have been him doing that mk64 mario yiiiiiiiiiipeee .
>>344328704
>Nintendo shares went up 10% with the release of the new Pokemon game for mobiles
I know, it's great, I made like $500 today. Based pokemon go
>>344334616
gave up on nintendo first party for a while now. Hope Cemu gets updated frequently, currently enjoying NSBU on it.
>tfw mobile games are more succesful than real games
>>344352938
They're basically going to become Disney-lite.
Themeparks, movies, shows and merchandise like amiibo will be their biggest moneymakers; games will come second, and a good deal of them will be IOS shit.
>Nintendo goes mobile
>They're releasing a fucking new Pokemon game for 3DS in November
You fucking morons.
Anybody else quietly hope Nintendo makes the next Xperia play kinda phone? I for one miss these things, it was easy enough to pass as a normal phone, then became a fuckin n64 for spergin out when no one else was around.
Are true Nintendo fans actually happy that Nintendo is unironically looking at smartphone as their next future platform/safety net?
I am personally shocked at how much Pokemon fans have embraced and welcomed smart phones.
I don't understand how you guys can just be happy that this is happening when you know what it means for the future and it really dose mean the death of tradditional handheld games, how can people be okay with that?
>>344357774
No, anon.
This is how it all starts.
This is just a taste of what's to come within the next 5 years.
Face it, the situation looks grim. If the NX is a dud, then Nintendo is utterly dead as a good gaming company.
>HAHA NINTENDO GO THIRD PARTY
>SO I CAN PLAY MARIO ON MY XBOXONE AND PS5
>>344357837
It'd have potential if Nintendo actually invested in it, but it's Nintendo we're talking about here, they haven't been able to hit the mark for a while now on hardware.
>>344358020
>Mario
>good
We just want Nintendo to crash and burn, for turning their back on their real fans.
>>344330383
I don't,
feels good not to be a faggot sheep.
>>344358189
>turning their back on fans
News flash, you grew out of it. They didn't betray anyone.
>>344357893
>Are true Nintendo fans actually happy that Nintendo is unironically looking at smartphone as their next future platform/safety net?
No. Then again I'm not even a true Nintendo fan anymore. Used to be, but their track record within the last 10 years has been so soul-crushing... would rather just jump off this sinking ship than being forced to endure any more pain.
As for handheld games... well, it was going to die inevitably. It was a given. If the NX is indeed a console/handheld hybrid, then it will extend the lifespan by 5-7 more years... but Handheld gaming is pretty much going to die within the next 5 years.
Consoles will last a bit longer though - another 10-15 years at most.
>>344328704
Yes, the mobile marked has been very strong since the 2010 a bunch load of mobile games go mainstream and a lot of games receive mobile releases.
>>344333347
Nah it's just a massive coincidence everyone stopped shitting on xbox for paid online and started defending psn as soon as sony made it mandatory on ps4.
>>344358408
>but Handheld gaming is pretty much going to die within the next 5 years.
>
>Consoles will last a bit longer though - another 10-15 years at most.
I hate this world
>>344357893
>slippery slope
Gb2/pol/
>>344334671
Ingress doesn't allow me to relive my childhood by capturing mons in the real world through augmented reality
get on my level
>>344333347
I mean yeah? Was this sarcasm?
>>344358280
>using the "grew out of it" meme
No, the problem is that Nintendo didn't grow up, and never really wanted to.
Even Sony knew it was a wise decision to grow up with your base target audience by expanding their tastes with different genres, games with various adult ratings, themes, narratives, complex mechanics and the like. They knew it was smart and wise to expand age range target audiences, as it would bring in more people and fans at large.
Yes, they're currently going through a cinematic drivel phase for their older audiences, but they throw a nostalgia bone or a childrens' bone quite frequently through games like Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper and the like. And even then, they are well aware that children don't want to feel or be treated like children in gaming, and that's the reason why so many M-rated IPs and franchises (like CoD and the like) became popular as well.
Meanwhile, Nintendo has done the opposite. They don't attempt to grow up aging fans by giving them more mature subject matter ind the handful of malleable franchises that they do have. Instead, they're going backwards - turning those few franchises into pure childrens' bait (Zelda and Metroid being the forefront examples.)
Their online is still shit. They STILL haven't even properly transitioned into decent HD gaming development after 10 years; they're the equivalent of the twenty-something year old NEET whose finally having their quarter-life crisis too little; too late. And now it's all coming back to bite them in the ass. At least until their normie-baiting casual IOS and movie franchise shit becomes a success. Which it will be. Because Nintendo likes to take the cheap & easy route now. Fuck quality when you can just milk off of dumb children and clueless casuals with trash games instead.
>>344337548
Phones were beating the Vita in hardware since 2012, maybe even earlier. Anyone who owned a Vita already knew this though.
>>344359196
I remeber you guys touting slippery slope back when XCX was censored, then fatal frame got censored, then fates then FE lmao and all you retards shut up.
>>344329051
nintendo has been dead since the cube my man only mario and the smash bros keep selling.
>>344359454
And yet all Nintendo exclusives have been outselling Sony ones. The decision to "grow up" hasnt made them any more successful or broad-reaching.
You sound really sour though. If you don't think the new Zelda isnt a step in the maturing direction I cant say you're in the right mind. Even Fire Emblem has found a massive resurrgence in poplularity recently, localization might be silly but its still very much themed and developed for more mature players.
>>344359806
Even console Smash didn't sell that well.
Though I would say the Cube was the last time Nintendo actually gave a fuck about video games and their fans.
>>344359769
All these great games got some costumes fucked with, so what, not much else was touched.
Who else saw the two poke center employees as giant heads with open mouths?
>>344344606
>The actual capital G Game part comes in when you start battling for gyms
He already covered the battle system. It literally is just tapping the screen as fast as you can then holding you finger down to activate your single special move.
>and collecting pokemon and items at poke-stops
Again he already covered this. It's a walking simulator in the most literal of terms Even morso than Gone Home and Firewatch.
>just taking the app by itself, it's already ten times the quality and polish of what mobile games usually are.
The game is a technical mess and relies on overloaded servers that crash constantly during the day. The app hangs up in a bunch of different places like when catching mon and requires hard boot constantly, there are a shitload of bugs like the 1hp gym bug that forces you to exit and restart the app. It is the most unpolished mobile "game" I've ever played.
You are quite literally delusional.
>>344353034
>That kid that shot himself with a blue shell to blow himself through the walls to skip half the ride
>>344359769
>censorshitter calling other people retards
Wew
>>344360427
>apologist retard calling other people censorshitters
wew
>>344330626
Good thing my shit is slightly less shittier then your's nintencuck
>>344328827
>Implying /v/ hasn't been normie central for years
>Implying we don't have like 10 fucking threads about people using GO to find Pokemon in their Mom's ass
Considering you all betrayed Nintendo when they wanted to embrace "hardcore" gamers you deserve this mobile future.
>>344359454
>Even Sony knew it was a wise decision to grow up with your base target audience by expanding their tastes with different genres, games with various adult ratings, themes, narratives, complex mechanics and the like. They knew it was smart and wise to expand age range target audiences, as it would bring in more people and fans at large.
Nail on the the fucking head.
In exchange for Playstation choosing to saturate their audience with a wide variety of games they gave up what would be Mario-tier fandom to only a handful of franchises and I'll say that if I was given the choice to be stuck with Crash rehashes for 20 years or to become exposed to nearly every third, first and second party game that came to fruition on every Playstation console since the PS1 then I would choose the fucking variety every single fucking god dam time. Being a Nintendo fan would almost seem as if Nintendo carefully stretched out their consumer fandom to it's absolute limit then forced their audience to adopt stockholm syndrome in a display of cunning and absolutely ruthless marketing brainwashing genius.
>>344360497
>"He said X so he must be Y!"
Literal sociopath
>>344360563
>not owning a PS4, gaming PC, and Wii U.
Must feel shit to be you dawg.
>>344359990
>The decision to "grow up" hasnt made them any more successful or broad-reaching.
Because they never really attempted to do such to begin with. Howard Lincoln was slowly chancing that mindset in the N64 days but Nintendo never really followed through with it with the GameCube and latter consoles. Instead, they've only regressed. And the negative results show from the steep decline in console sales with each and every passing generation and the overwhelming amount of disgusted and disgruntled older fans who're thinking of abandoning Nintendo if the NX proves to be another bust.
>Even Fire Emblem has found a massive resurrgence in poplularity recently,
By degrading itself into utter weeb trash. Not that it wasn't weeb before, but at least it handled itself in a semi-tasteful manner. They had to go full waifu-husbando bait sellout mode to "save" it.
>If you don't think the new Zelda isnt a step in the maturing direction I cant say you're in the right mind.
It isn't. It's simply playing catch-up after 10 years of stagnation. Even then I expect it to be severely dumbed-down for even the dumbest of children - basically Skyrim-lite for kids, despite today's kids not giving a single fluck fuck about the Zelda IP. Same goes for Metroid.
>>344360182
I mean that's wrong, but if lying to yourself makes you feel better then go for it.
>>344360601
>rehash meme
Dont reply to yourself, faggot
Nintendo will still make quality NX games right?
Right?
>>344360627
>call someone a "censorshitter" unironically
>hurr how dare he call me a retard! sociopath!
You are some worthless random fuck on the Internet. Literally nothing you do or say matters
>>344360689
>current year
>Wii U
For what purpose.
Even the 3DS and Vita have more gaymes.
>>344361067
Stop youing me, my dick gets hard everytime.
>>344361087
I own 58 games for it, its treated me fine.
>>344360601
>Being a Nintendo fan would almost seem as if Nintendo carefully stretched out their consumer fandom to it's absolute limit then forced their audience to adopt stockholm syndrome in a display of cunning and absolutely ruthless marketing brainwashing genius.
It really does feel like that now. But even hardcore fans have their limit, and they're reaching it with the Wii U. NX will make or break the gaming industry for Nintendo, if it fails I fully expect them to transition to shitty IOS games and movie adaptations to make their big bucks instead. And that's probably what's going to happen either way.
>>344361067
Nigga you just contradicted yourself by replying lmao
>>344361150
for the record, any post that says "lol you respond you lose :^)" is an auto-argument loss
>>344361150
Haha I was just pretending to be retarded to trick you into replying! You have been rused!
>>344359990
wiiU games are the only games you can buy on the console, thats why they sell more, because thats literally the only game it has. Where as on Sony consoles theres always 20 or so games every week
>the way to make pokemon popular again was removing all the depth and gameplay it had left
gaming is actually dead
>>344361510
>>344361515
>calling each other idiots is an argument you can lose
Its the American education system, I tell you.
>>344361680
Nigga you just contradicted yourself by replying lmao
>>344361352
It seems they are already padding their safety net in mobile market incase the NX fails. I do not want it to fail though and I want them to break back into the industry and tell mobile gaming to fuck off
>>344361520
Its also free, retard.
>>344361776
lol mad salty
>>344359196
Not all proposed slippery slope scenarios are slippery slope fallacies, you know. The prerequisite for avoiding the fallacy is that there is reasonable evidence to suggest that the extreme scenario is likely.
For example, when DLC first became a thing, people who knew the greedy natures of the big publishers said that if you buy this shit, pretty soon, they're going to start stripping games of content and selling said content back to you. Guess what's completely normal now? The slippery slope was real.
Also I like how you invoke the /pol/ boogeyman for no reason even though what he said had fuckall to do with politics. Then you wonder why nobody sympathises with you crying over /pol/ invasions.
>>344360786
This nigga knows exactly whatsup
>>344359454
I appreciate that they still try to keep Ratchet and Clank alive but really since the PS4 they've just coasted along with whatever 3rd party trend makes them the most money. If it weren't for Microsoft I'd argue they the main culprit of the "Mature Games for Mature Gamers" phase the industry is tuck in right now.
Doesn't help that they stopped trying to make 1st party games since they make so much dosh painting their consoles black like my soul. Besides Gravity Rush all they ever seem to make is weird shit like Tearaway.
>>344361779
Nah. I think they're pretty much done with console gaming and the NX will be their last hurrah, regardless of how good or shitty it is.
Nintendo wants to make easy money through quick and cheap means. This has been the case since the WIi and mobile is the best way to go about it.
>>344362014
Obvious /pol/ack holee fuq
>>344360689
>owning a gaming PC
For? Western multiplats that are almost exclusively broken on PC and lack the console-exclusive DLC? Western online shooters where the PC community is dead while it thrives on console? Delayed ports of western AAA rehashes?
>>344362316
It must hurt being this cynical. How can I ease this pain?
>>344361997
lol u replied i win :^))))
>>344362648
another victim of the PC meme. The truth hurts, all he can do is post reaction images to mask the wounds.
>>344362525
By stepping into reality and accepting that the worst outcome is usually the most likely one.
>>344362317
>constantly cry /pol/ at posts that have nothing to do with politics
>lol why is /pol/lacks invading mai board????????????
You pretty much lost all rights to complain about /pol/. When threads are covered with Trump memes by the end of the summer you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.
>>344329051
Smart phones have higher processing power and game potential than nintendo consoles, it's time to learn to accept
This is the worst fucking thread in this board right now
>>344362858
Literally nothing you said is the truth. Everything you posted is completely false and has no basis in reality whatsoever.
The only victim here is you, a victim of your own retardation and mental illness. Go be autistic somewhere else.
>>344363134
show me a non-broken PC game that isnt indieshit, memeshit or F2P.
>>344362437
Holy fuck...
>>344363245
Sorry I don't argue with abject retards like you
>>344363110
Its a red pill for Nintendo fans alike, the truth scares you, that's all.
And people say sonyggers aren't the worst bunch
Feels good being an idort
>>344329051
>random_encounter_irl.gif
>>344363110
Go back to /pol/ and stop falling for the PC meme Nintendrone. Nintendo will go third party and all PC games are broken multiplats because the community is on consoles and voting for Hilary 2016
>>344363134
>Literally nothing you said is the truth. Everything you posted is completely false and has no basis in reality whatsoever.
Oh? Well here's exhibit A): Western multiplat that's broken on PC, while the PS4 version boasts exclusive DLC skins and missions.
>>344363468
Lol
I remember you guys said it for Miitomo too. And the Wii. And said the 3ds will fail because of mobile. If any developer will go mobile because of one mobile game or even a few of them, all of the big 3 will be mobile.
I don't even own a Wii u
>>344362961
Sad but true. Why should they even bother with hardware anymore? Maybe they'll start making addon for phones to play Nintendo games on their TV like the Vita/Playstation TV.
>>344363567
>go back to /pol/
I don't even own a Wii U you idiot
>>344363134
Exhibit B): Western online shooter where the PC community is dead while it thrives on console.
>>344329334
good riddance to them. they should rent out their ips to 3rd party devs
>>344363134
Exhibit C): Delayed port of a AAA rehash.
>>344363786
Because they can develop games to sell hardware, earning extra profits?
Or maybe so they can make sure that their games will have a platform to be released on without any other guidelines or limitations, and have less competition?
I don't know anon. Even the fucking Wii U made a profit
>>344363815
>>344363707
Exibit D) Consolefags
>>344363712
DS: Sold 100+ million
3D: 50 million
Mobile is eating the industry, Nintendo instead of fighting it is bowing down to it and embracing it now. Miimoto was just the start, they already have licenced layton games on mobile for gods sake.
Also the wii damaged the companies reputation inw hich they still havent recovered.
If you were Nintendo right now, would you choose to invest in tradditional handheld hardware or would you give in to the demmands of the smartphone market, knowing games are 20x cheaper to make for it with 6x the return?
>>344363815
>Shooter thriving on console
Is this an achievement? How about we talk about all the games and series that have died thanks to consoles. Two off the top of my head. Warhawk and Socom.
>>344363938
This anon gets it
>Build PeeCed 1.8k build
>Only games I can play is western shit and we all know its crap
>Cant play weeb shit because Japan doesnt give a fuck about PC
>But I can play a bunch of games from an overly saturated market of indies with "ironic" shit graphics
>>344364046
fuck that was bad...
>>344363938
>>344363815
>>344363707
>argument against PC
>only examples are AAA garbage and rehashes that are just as if not even more shit on consoles
You gotta be shitting me.
>>344363815
>>344363938
interesting similarities in cover art
>>344364223
Don't reply to your own post faggot.
>>344364075
3DS already came out in the mobile boom. It still sold more than any console in the market today
And DS is THE most successful handhoed, so the comparison is unfair.
>>344363707
>still cherrypicking and desperately clinging to an example that was fixed nearly a year ago and runs better on PC than on consoles ever since
>>344364223
>muh $2000 build meme
You are beyond pathetic. Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.
>>344330574
>Pokemon Trozei was great
>mfw the abomination of a sequel they released for the 3DS
>>344363815
>battlefront
>"thriving"
Also last I checked Battlefront had more players on PC like most BF games. Though I don't know why you would want to play that trash on any platform.
>>344364223
eh i enjoy pc. get enough games to keep me busy. miss out on some weeb shit but atleast we getting attack on titan and berserk game which are probs my fav anime/manga currently. might have to get a console for persona 5 and ys 8 though
>>344364075
YOu can;t just shift everything over to mobile though. Companies like Square have tried and it only comes back to bite you because only 1 in 5 of their products ends up making Record Keeper money and people started bitching because they weren't making actual rpgs either (It's the reason they got rid of Wada because people got sick of them making nothing but mobile games).
You have to have both to keep everyone happy.
>>344364256
But that's the only thing that's on PC. If anything, PC is objectively inferior to consoles since all games are designed for console hardware first and foremost, while the PC versions are just straight ports of the console versions. That right there nullifies the perceived advantage PC has in terms of visual fidelity. Secondly, consoles always have, and will be, the main source of revenue for software publishers, with PC sales being just drops in a bucket, which explains why every game is biased towards consoles. Next, the platform holders can and will buy games for their consoles, while PC literally has to live off the generosity of others. Finally, both consoles have far more Japanese games than PC will ever see, in fact PC only sees ports of ancient ass games people played decades ago. Consider the fact that even the fucking Xbox is a more viable platform for XV and KH3 than PC. Let that sink in for a moment.
tl;dr PC is utterly irrelevant in the console market, it lives off scraps
>>344330340
I actually enjoyed Pokemon Picross, though it's overpriced if you really want access to every puzzle.
>>344364943
>ppl still giving a shit about Square-Enix games after FFXIII
>>344365707
Apparently they still do, the collector's edition for XV sold out within minutes. XV is going to be THE biggest Japanese game release. It's such a shame that PC is such an expensive, irrelevant market to miss out on possibly the biggest game of the decade.
>>344365963
Shows that console fags are mainstream fuck bois that buy into hype. After XIII I'm never buying a FF game day 1 again.
>People having fun is the bad future
Ok
>>344362267
That nigga is a meathead
>>344364943
What are you using to post this right now?
Checkmate retard faggot lol
>>344365963
lol looking at that list is fucking hilarious and shows how shit taste people have. only game that could be interesting is no mans sky, and thats basing it of the concept. no one knows if its actually good yet.
The market has spoken.
More people want this kind of game than those that want something more traditional. The game is doing well.
That's all there is to it. It's just the direction things are going. Accept it or don't, it's just what's going to happen. Nintendo is not interested in making games for "core" players anymore.
>>344368209
I'm sure a lot of it has to do with it being freemium, too.