TF2 IS SAVED
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Sure, queuing takes forever. Leavers are still everywhere. But this things will get sorted out in time.
But out of the games I have played, about half have been the best games of TF2 I have played in a long time - the reason I left in the first place was because I was running into more and more trouble finding servers where I could find quality matches.
Everyone playing the objective, sticking with the same players all the way through and knowing who they are - having that feeling of cooperation from beginning to end. PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAYING CTF INSTEAD OF BASE TURTLE DEATHMATCH, WHAT THE HELL. The feeling that people won't just decide to conga midgame. Yeah, its one of the things I enjoy about TF2, but sometimes I just want to play the game.
And some of the other problems brought up... I don't think they are that huge... The apparent death of community servers is probably a side effect of everyone wanting to try out matchmaking, its logical that they are empty. I will be surprised if they still are two weeks from now. This is a huge improvement over the experience Valve servers ever provided.I think it would be good to have a quickplay button for community servers, though I still don't think bringing back Valves servers is necessary.
I think this is also good, Competitive mode gives Valve a game where balance matters a lot more and allow people to set up good matches without third party sites.
So who is upset about this? Of course, the friendly heavies, the redditors, the spycrabs and the furries. They are worried that people will actually give a shit an play the goddam game instead of paying attention and indulging in their antics.
>>344327197
I dunno man I'm just happy that I got to play MvM without paying a centjust like I did with the rest of the game
Every game I've played has been terrible, it takes minutes for me to get a round (used to be able to jump in before the intro music was done), you can't even accurately select a map or fucking gamemode.
Game is dead until quickplay returns. It should be about fun, not cancerous GOTTA WIN AND INCREASE MY MMR Overwatch/LoL shit
Can't even select game mode. Who thought that was a fucking good idea? It's garbage.
I could get into this update if Valve ironed out the problems fast enough. When I join a CASUAL game, I'd like to actually be able to play it to my comfort. That means not waiting 20 minutes, being able to choose a map that I want to go to, and so on. I'd be glad for this update if they can just fix these major issues. With Valve, it's always a 50/50 chance that they'll redeem themselves, or do somethign even stupider. All we can do is see what they do.
But just for safety, I'm cashing out any high priced stuff I have, incase this ends up driving away the userbase.
It says you have to pay fucking money to play competitive at all. They ruined the game and still expect more money. They're jewish pigs.
>mfw tf2 is fucked and overwatch won
>>344328738
> "won"
>Let's buff sydney sleeper and give scout an airblast
This update pretty much crushed any hope I had left in Valve. It's never been more obvious that they don't play their game and have completely no idea what they are doing when it comes to game mechanics.
>Join game
>3 afks
>1 engineer building a sentry outside of spawn and hitting it for the rest of the match
>1 mic spammer
>no method of removing them
>can't quit because of penalties
>Took me 10 minutes to get in
>can't pick map
>forced to pick at least 2 modes
wew lad
>>344327197
Hi. Gabe. Go back to making HL3.
>>344328738
That every kid here writes, "but overpriced is good!11", reflexively when ever tf2 comes up shows what terrible purchase they made.
Blizzard games are too simple to last long. Grow up and make this your last purchase. Any other turd they release will only make you look embarrassing if you buy it.
>>344330649
Sydney Sleeper has been buffed to reward skill now, what's the problem?
>>344331735
It's not just head shots but fully charged shots.
>>344331735
>Heavy with a medic and maybe another teammates
>Not good enough to headshot the medic
>Not good enough to headshot the other classes nearby
>Headshot the heavy, other classes nearby suffer
It awards skill in the most backwards way possible.
>>344327435
So join a sever
>>344331837
Headshots OR fully charged shots
It's not like the stock rifle didn't have people doing fully charged body shots either. The Sydney Sleeper needed a buff, to be honest.
Can I no longer just select a game mode and pick out a pub server from the list? Now they're punishing for leaving games that on average take more than 30 minutes to win or lose.
>Go fight for team heavy or pyro!
>Except you fucking can't because the game never starts.
Okay.jpg.
Well at least server browser works, and the new maps are really fun.
It takes forever to find a match, but once you do, it's the best. Way better than pubbing with bullshit friendlies and people not PLAYING the game.
>>344327197
Luckily I really only use two community servers that always have a crowd
>>344332201
>what is the server browser
Why does everyone somehow manage to ignore the giant "community" section?
>>344332540
Same
The update barely affects me, I thought you guys hated valve pubs anyway
Bring back the old menu
thats all i want
Just have competitive as a separate tab
>>344327197
tf2 is far from saved until they roll a huge balance patch that actually gives the best classes downsides enough the lesser classes have more than one specific use. It's also still bloated as shit in terms of performance.
But I guess in the broadest sense it is arguably in a better state than it was pre patch.
>>344332442
This. They just need to fix the implementation, because the concept is pretty great. I was so sick of seeing pubs and spycrabs and friendly heavies who were AFK.
>>344327197
Call me back when they add 9vs9, select a game mode, and class limits
>>344327197
I played the objective, when i stoppped having fun i would leave the server WARNING THIS USER HAS NOT PLAYED COMPETITIVELY IN THE CAUSAL GAME MODE, HE WILL BE REMOVED FROM MATCHMAKING FOR YOUR SAFTEY
>>344332587
The pub browser was much more convenient, you didn't have to wait a minute or so for the servers the load into the list. Also, too many servers are full of custom game modes. You need to find a server that you like, play with the same people over and over, and stick with it until it dies then rinse and repeat. It's a hassle.
>>344327197
I've already spoken to more friendly people in 5 tf2 matches than I did in 500 overwatch matches, hell in overwatch no one uses voip and most don't even use text
I saw that they ADDED an extra airblast cost to the degreaser and realized that maybe it's not worth getting back into
>>344327197
Iktf anon. Comp is really great, matchmaking is just shit. Like some other anons mentioned 9v9 would be a welcome addition and some class changes too. At the moment it seems Spy is absolutely useless. Most games i've played so far have been without a sniper too (though a good sniper is always an amazing addition). Could see 1 Scout 2 Soldier 1 Demo 1 Medic 1 Pyro be one of the more common team compositions for CP and koth. 9v9 would be great to actually get all the classes to be used.
Guys, you don't understand. Matchmaking is super speedy. It's just that they're running on valve time, not real world time.
Kinda like how "bi-monthly" actually means "bi-yearly". It's the magic of valve time!
>>344327560
you can tick which game modes you want to play what are you talking about
>>344327197
How about fuck off
>Got into casual MM for the first time today
>Hacking sniper on enemy team
>We still absolutely roll them, one of the easiest games ever, the don't even cap 1 point and we roll through them in 3 minutes on attack
>Game ends and everyone leaves
>Queue again for 14 minutes
I still haven't been able to find a comp match yet.
>>344332587
Tell me when community servers run Hydro or Asteroid.
I'm fucking done with competitive. Literally played two fucking 5v6 matches in a row. Why the fuck isn't there any afk detection for fucks sake?
>>344333706
tell me when valve servers run hydro or asteroid
>>344333706
If you're not retarded you can find them yourself
>>344333517
I think this guy is right. A 5-20 min wait is very quick.
>>344327197
No one actually plays tf2 anymore do they? I thought it was just a furry infested hat trading game. Jeez let it die already
>>344334542
>furry infested
no anon that's overwatch
>hat trading game
you got that part right though
>>344334542
There aren't really any other good arena shooters out there right now. Overwatch is just an easier TF2 with a literal press button to win mechanic, bullet magnetism, and large hitboxes to compensate for gamepads.
>>344327197
This shit should have been added years ago. Now the community is mostly dead as fuck. And there is not even a 9v9 yet. Thanks Gaben you stupid fat fuck.
>>344334841
>Now the community is mostly dead as fuck
stop this meme
It's literally the third most played game on steam and this update has caused a resurgence in community servers what the fuck are you talking about
>>344327197
>Reinstall TF2 last night to test out competitive mode
>Item servers are down and can't play competitive mode
>Had a blast playing vanilla TF2 for about 2 hours while the server was still down
>Game instantly turns to shit once item server is back up
>>344333681
Was it dustbowl? That was fucking brutal :(
>>344331619
>people bitched about OW competitive being broken and unplayable
>little did they know they would soon witness what that really looks like
>>344334717
>tf2
>furry servers
>overwatch
>no furry servers
Wait my bad, I meant
>tf2
>no servers
>>344333821
Since Asteroid was added and they introduced the alternative mode in quickplay respectively.
>>344333856
Where the fuck am I going to find Hydro? Show me a populated EU Hydro server right now, I dare you.
>>344335042
Vanilla TF2 is the absolute best.
>>344335471
OW kiddies still believing TF2 is dead meme, a game that's still being played after almost 9 years. I have no interest in OW because it looks broken as fuck. It's only good for the porn.
Seriously the fuck is up with the matchmaking
I've been stuck on searching for minutes now
>>344327572
Smart man. With the advent of these keyless crates, anyone hoping to cash out their items should do so now before the new series of unusuals (all hats) rolls around and nukes the value of anything rare.
>mfw I get the god tier I wanted just before the world caught ablaze
>>344335707
Then it's good for one more thing than tf2
>>344335787
>not enjoying TF2 porn
What are you, casual?
>>344327197
Except I can't enjoy the game because the system keeps placing me on european servers and end up with 200+ ping.
I don't even live anywhere near Europe.
>>344335676
Especially with the balance changes they've made to the classes over the years. Pyro can airblast, engie can move buildings, spy with a slightly faster speed.
>>344335707
You realize the Huntsman is even worse than Hanzo, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsqd84JKFLU
>>344335956
>spy with a slightly faster speed.
>Every pub filled with 3+ DR shitters
So sick of fighting the Dead ringer, it's just tedious.
>>344336093
>2009 video
>>344333517
why he look like the rock
>>344327197
>TF2
>saved
Nah. This update was shit. Only interesting parts of it was the pyro buff against medics, and the spy being as fast as a medic. About everything else is shit, and how Valve did casual mode is unbelievably stupid.
>>344327384
>Mvm without paying a cent
Wait, the rewarded mode or the normal?
>>344336160
Well I was talking about vanilla TF2. The speed boost works well in that case.
>>344328738
>smug anime girl
>"won"
>>344327572
This. Whoever thought putting the Competitive mode restrictions in fucking CASUAL MODE was a good idea needs to be fucking fired.
/thread
>>344327197
Valve pls go
>>344327197
Are you honestly acting apologetic on behalf of valve?
Truth be told the game is shit because the fanbase is awful. Overwatch is better, more popular while tf2 stats have make-up applied to them. Even if you hate overwatch like a contrarian memester, there are better games, but traders will immediately jump in to shitpost because their life savings depend on tf2.
How many of the 60K are bots, iddlers, or alt accounts of a single person? I guess a lot. Realistically the game sits at 20K at most.
Given /v/ loves to fuck shit up, stop playing tf2 or giving it any attention, in time a economy spike is bound to leave traders homeless, then you will read about the 30 something house who lost his life savings when the tf2 economy expired.
Valve is honestly nothing but a white game reseller and a pachinko company like konami at this point.
>>344335868
It's like 80% gay or furry anon
I can't fap to that
>>344336093
>old as fuck video
>cherrypicking
>Join game
>My team has 4 spies
>"We dont need 4 spies, guys. Seriously"
>One of the spies: " fuck u"
>Later in match we have the same 4 spies + 3 snipers
>>344336609
>>344336172
Except it's still just as bad, you can go check for yourself in the practice range. Unless you're seriously going to deny the infamous hitbox of the cuntsman like the true drones you are.
>>344334717
I cannot even meme this comment with greentext but you are a hypocrite and an imbecile. Tf2 is the largest cancerbase of all times. Overwatch is full of waifu fags, and THICK lovers, while tf2 is full of homo men, furries, bronies and people who use cropped hentai or anime avatars which spent around $200 each on a virtual dress up game.
I want tf2 to stay alive because it is wall keeping these freaks away from overwatch.
But go ahead play tf2 with the mentally disabled, what i stopping you? Oh wait the 20 minute wait for A SINGLE GAME.
>it's a "tf2 outpost / backpack & co pay shills to meme this game on 4chan so the economy does not crash" episode
>>344327197
I can agree what you said about the teamwork aspect. Teams have diverse amounts of classes instead of 6 snipers and spies, when someone says "we need someone to go x", teammates oblige. There's was more teamwork in games, I had a gibus pyro spychecking my buildings for an entire match, not even stopping for a high five taunt. What they need to do though is remove the penalties for casual matches and add the old quickplay back ALONG with the casual mode.
>L-look at how awful these arrow hitboxes are!
>Please play our game, I don't want 20 minute queues!
Nice try horsefuckers, but your game is dying.
>>344337436
>>344337215
>>344336974
Why can't OW shitposters stick to their game?
>>344336974
>>344336939
Oh I know its still bad
the video is old as fuck though and iirc its not as bad as its used to be, but its still fucking shit
But there's a myriad of examples in overwatch compared to TF2
>>344336974
Not even him but just because there's a few bad apples doesn't mean the entire userbase is bad
Overwatch though, most people literally just play it for the waifus
You really think people play that shitty game for it's depth? It's all waifufags you retard
The TF2 community is fine unless you cherrypick
>But go ahead play tf2 with the mentally disabled, what i stopping you?
Ironic you bring that up, because Overwatch's hitboxes literally cater to the mentally disabled :^)
>Oh wait the 20 minute wait for a SINGLE GAME.
I can just play on a community server, something Overwatch doesn't and will never have :^)
>>344337436
>game is dying
>consistently third most popular game on steam and has a growing playerbase since the update
You guys really need to stay in your containment threads.
I GOT TOO MANY RHYTHMS OVER HERE
>>344337530
>implying Overfags play their game at all
ITT: casuals who have never used the server browser
>tfw you lost your team fortress 2 retail cd you got on release
>Lets force people to give us their phone number or they have to pay to get into competitive
>Lets make people who do casual matches have to wait 20+ minutes for a sporadic match
>Lets make another bullshit "WE CAN ONLY FIX ONE OF TESE FLAWED AS FUCK CHARACTERS" while buffing the other guy they prefer to win
I mean, really niggers, paid comp because I won't completely destroy my already limited privacy, nerfing Heavy of all fucking characters, buffing spy, buffing Pyro right before the bollocks of "1 MAN WINS, ONLY 1 OF THE 2 GETS FIXED CAUSE WE ARE LAZY FUCKS" while heavy was hit with the aformentioned nerf
This all sounds like a bunch of bullshit
>mfw spy speed boost
>mfw i can actually play this class somewhat decently now
>>344332048
>Charged shot means it works on bodyshots
It's a supporting suppressing fire role that makes attacking specific areas or targets much easier regardless of any situation less than 3 medics pocketing the target.
>everyone complaining about matchmaking
>even though average player skill in casual has skyrocketed because of it
Fucking F2Ps
>>344327197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyL2Zxngs6A
i maed dis
HOW JOIN GAME
>>344338706
>stop complaining about having to wait a half hour to play matches
>>344337857
>Tfw you traded it into GAME despite using the code
>>344338192
As if you can even fight in the war.
Last i checked it's basically a tie 49 ro 51 because no one can play enough to make any headway
>Can't back out and browse your backpack and the store while searching for a match
I know Source is completely unsuited for this kind of stuff but come on. Hopefully they port it to Source 2. I know they said they wouldn't but I feel like it is going to happen.
>>344338818
>I never played TF2 when a major update came out
Newfag crying
Remember MvM?
>>344338250
>Always used to disguise as enemy Spy despite it being so obvious, for funsies
>Now every random shitter will be doing it because it'll have faster movespeed than the Pyro they usually go with
>>344339006
Yeah
I could still play regular matches
>>344339135
disguises don't fool anyone anyway, they're for sentries and nothing else
>>344338818
>tfw I made fun of Battleborn players and their shitty "play a book or clean your room while waiting" attitude
>I'm now being punished
>>344339135
Why do I recognize this anon.
Where do I recognize this from anon.
>>344327197
I kind of have to agree, the hour long queue weeds out a lot of the retards
>Cow Mangler still not buffed
>Still no strange Rocket/Sticky Jumper
>All the strange parts in the new crate already exist
>Still no strange part: Stickybombs Destroyed
>Still no strange B.A.S.E. Jumper
>LnL is still trash
>Still no situation in which the Loose Cannon should be used instead of stock
>Liberty Launcher is still worthless
>Natascha and Brass Beast NERFED even though they are 600 times worse than stock
>Quick-Fix NERFED even though both other Mediguns beat it
>Soda Popper nerfed even though it's a fucking joke weapon
>Demoboots nerfed even though they're fucking joke weapons
>Quickplay is no longer quick
Is this the worst update in TF2 history?
>>344327197
They will update queue times but it's fucking. amazing.
Thank God I didn't buy Overshit
>>344339194
Maybe because they updated the way regular matches work?
>>344339693
Or maybe the retards are the ones who put up with it.
>>344339751
proof that tf2 developers don't even play the fucking game
>>344339862
Nope, I haven't seen any friendlies or conga retards
>>344327197
Agree with you, OP. Fuck the brain dead morons with the sense of humor of a 6 year old that think hoovies and spycrabs are funny.
>>344339751
>Loose Cannon
>fastest projectile in the game
>can't be reflected
>150 damage double donks
It's banned in leagues for a reason
>>344338818
>tf2 has never had bugs on the first day of an update
>>344339751
>Is this the worst update in TF2 history?
Anon, nothing can ever go lower than End of the Line.
>>344339862
Stick to your broken game you fangirl.
>>344339751
>>Natascha and Brass Beast NERFED even though they are 600 times worse than stock
>>Quick-Fix NERFED even though both other Mediguns beat it
Fucking why. I loved the Quickfix,it made Medic so much fun. Gonna go back to Uber because fuck it, they gave everyone the speed match.
>tfw the Brass beast will never be good
I have like 5 hrs into TF2 and literally the best time I had was doing that Russian dance with randoms and not stopping.
Shit had me in tears
>>344340140
Quick-Fix can still make Medics jump with Demo/soldier, right?
>>344340385
yes
>>344339135
I always disguise as Spy.
If you press B to make the disguise equip the knife your teammates will think you are an enemy spy and will begin attacking you giving you a good cover when running into enemy lines. Literally best disguise.
>>344336767
>having fun in a casual game playing as my favorite class
>some tryhard bossy asshole join the server and starts ordering us around
>tell him "fuck u"
>keep playing as my favorite class and having fun
I can't drop in/out of servers when I please
Matchmaking MOBAshit is cancer for people who don't have life circumstances beyond video games
>>344340579
You msutbe some masochistic sick fuck if losing is considered "fun"
>>344328738
>when you go 8 minutes without bragging about how Overwatch will kill TF2
>>344339751
I don't know why they nerfed the Quick Fix. It was the main medigun I used and it had serious drawbacks already in comparison to the other ones. Why nerd it even more? It's called the Quick Fix. Why does it build Uber slower than the Kritzkrieg when it's supposed to be the quickest?
I really don't like that shit.
anybody try out the new sydney sleeper + cozy camper yet? i wanna be a bro to my teammates but i don't want to have to wait 3 days to join a server so i can test it
>>344340767
>spy/sniper
>giving a shit about objective
One is all about backstabs, the other all about headshots
>>344341018
The Quick Fix was overpowered you faggot
>>344340140
Brass Beast was my main mini gun for a while. I used to be able to use it really well when it first came out. Now, I can't use it as effectively as the others ones.
>>344327197
>But out of the games I have played, about half have been the best games of TF2 I have played in a long time
Funny, mine were the worst.
5v10 is not fun.
>>344341054
sleeper is a nightmare on payload, camper is pretty crap but probably better combined with the sleeper
>>344327197
no tf2 is not saved
valve has been trying to take back "control" of their own games for years now, valve doesn't want community servers to exist in any way especially if they can harm the sales of crates
valve designed cs:go in such a way to decentivize playing anything but official servers'
Valve has to ban clientside weapon models and skins, and servers that spoof skins on cs:go.
Everything this update has added pushes tf2 in exact same direction as csgo's online infastructure
Valve doesn't want community servers to exist anymore but they can't just cut them off at once without facing severe backlash, they want to push tf2 in the same direction of CS:GO to try to make non valve servers dead, and the remove the capability at a later point when no one will make a fuss, your all being played
>batwater basin
>enemy team couldnt get out of spawn
>they lose their round, badly
>our round
>one capture is a win
>win
>salt coming out the other team
>>344328738
>mfw when it's four months from now and Overwatch resides in the same graveyard as Evolve, Titanfall, BattlEAfront, Dirty Bomb and Battleborn
>>344331619
>Blizzard games are too simple to last long
You realize their simplicity is the exact reason games like WoW are still around 12 years after release, at least think before you write.
It's also as if you're implying that tf2 is not just casual as overwatch, it is literally just as bad.
>>344341606
You've gone dun it now, here comes the triggering.
>>344341192
gg (git gud)
Kritz, Demo, Soldier, fighting more than one person, Uber, Heavy, Sniper, Spy, Conch, Buff Banner, Batallion's Backup, Jarate, Scout, and more all hard counter QF.
What's the point fo clicking the medal during search mode?
>>344340092
Everything is banned in leauges
>>344341654
TF2 has a higher skill ceiling. Overwatch has broken hitboxes, bullet magnetism, and a the most casual as fuck mechanic, the press-button-to-win feature similar to Smash Bro's smash ball except when you die you still keep the progress made towards executing it.
Overwatch is literally an easier and more accessible TF2 which is why it's gained a massive playerbase full of people who don't normally play video games.
>>344341301
>valve doesn't want community servers to exist in any way
ebin
>>344328738
>posting anime
Typical Overwatch community
>>344341982
>TF2 has a higher skill ceiling
>Crits
>Facestabs
>The pyro
Both are casual as fuck. TF2 just has the luck of being created in a time where video games were less casual than they are now.
>>344341654
WoW wasn't simple as its height. It sure is now, and it has like what, 2 million subs?
>>344342230
You don't understand what a skill ceiling is do you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhfVR1QB7t0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlucHmiknP8
>>344340092
>Fastest projectile
Huntsman
Sandman
Crusader's Crossbow
>Can't be reflected
Yes it can
>150 double donks
Which doesn't really matter when you can do 200 damage with stock in the same amount of time it takes to charge it.
Is it only me that gets really nostalgic for the really broken shit that happened in this game before they got nerfed?
>mfw pre-nerf tomislav
>mfw pre-nerf backburner
>mfw milkman set with the fucking ridiculous HP bonus
>mfw pre-nerf sandman
>>344327197
yeah the comp matches I've played so far were pretty fun and the queue are relatively quick so I can easily find a match in 1 or 2 minutes.
casual is pretty fucked though. I'm not sure who though it would be a good idea put all those restrictions on it.
but I think it was ultimately a good idea I hope it gives community servers a place in the game now that valve pubs are dead.
>>344341530
This just happened with my team on Barnblitz
When the timer went down to a minute they just stopped leaving spawn
>>344342352
>Movement techniques strictly for two classes
>Skill
It's like saying a crouch jump takes skill, yet games not made in source don't utilize it. You can explosive jump with Junkrat same way only it doesn't take away any HP.
But rocket jumping is grasping at straws, shit is common knowledge for TF2.
>>344342497
definitely not
>the entirety of the engineer update
>All these poor tf2cucks defending their barely living casual hat simulator
>>344342497
>pre-nerf natascha
>pre-nerf natascha
>pre-nerf natascha
>pre-nerf natascha
>>344342497
>missing TomiGRUvich
>EVER
Jesus christ the Heavy was absolutely fucking ridiculous back then. Everyone whines how UP he is now but god damn I'd rather keep it that way than having to deal with 2011 Heavy.
>Play alone
>Two fags talking to each other in German and a 12 year old kid on mic
>No voteban, can't leave
>Want to play with a friend
>Wait to get a server for half an hour
>KOTH
>Games are over after about five minutes total, because other team never caps
>Get to wait again
Yeah, great stuff
>>344342703
it's common knowledge, as in most people know it's a thing, but if you think most people know how to rocket jump properly, you're the most delusional idiot ever
>Get 0 points from playing casual match
Where are my autism points gabe I carried that fuckin team
>>344327197
THE NEW MAPS ARE GLORIOUS!!!!
>>344341192
Bullshit. Against another medic ubering a guy, you'd be fucked. Against kritz, you might stand a chance. Against the Vaccinator, who cares.
>>344342703
I'd like to see you attempt to pull of the advanced techniques used in the video. Yes, rocket jumping is pretty basic, but it takes more skill to pull off what's shown in the video. Also since when is rocket jumping without the risk of killing yourself in the process considered more skillful? That's literally more casualized rocket jumping and it's not helping your case.
>>344342887
holy shit i completely forgot about this and now i'm laughing really hard, thank you anon
also
>pre-nerf fists of steel
>>344342703
If you claim rocket jumping is easy, then you're either an incredibly skilled player, or you have no idea what you're talking about.
Considering we're on /v/, the latter is more plausible.
>>344341654
>implying that tf2 is not just casual as overwatch
>>344339751
Lock n' Load used to be beastly
>>344342497
>He doesn't remember pre-nerf enforcer
That shit was fucking cash, man.
>>344342931
>>344343052
>>344343278
There's a difference between rocket jumping and being good at rocket jumping. It's like people who don't use Pharah's concussion missile for advanced movement. Being good at rocket jumping, is also not the same as being good at the game.
>>344343052
It can be argued that rocket jumping as Pharah is riskier since she's more squishy and gets less momentum from it.
>>344343278
Just get a jumping script and time your jumps. It's not difficult. My 12 yo brother got it down after several days because he wanted "to be like mulsek"
Chaining sticky jumps is the only truly difficult thing.
>>344342497
>>344342707
>>344342887
>>344342896
>>344343160
>>344343619
>dead ringer when it first came out
>>344343463
It's so much more difficult to do that TF2 jump than the Overwatch jump.
That Badlands jump is even one of the easier ones, the rollouts get pretty difficult and jump maps require far more skill than anything in Overwatch.
Most of that shit isn't practical in a game, though.
>>344343814
That weapon was like a literal crusade against fun.
>>344327197
>haven't really played TF2 since the Tough Break update completely fucked everything for the pyro (except the phlog for like a week, which is a fucking stupid weapon that wound up hard-countering every other pyro loadout jesus fuck what were they thinking)
>pick it back up for the pyro v. heavy event in the hopes that Valve realizes they've done wrong and want to fix it
>nothing about the update fixes any issues for either class
>heavy got shat on even harder than ever before
>absolutely fucking astounded by how shit the pyro currently is, axetinguisher still ruined when there was literally never anything wrong with it to begin with
>none of the spy's anti-pyro bullshit got nerfed, and spy was given a move speed buff so that he's now faster than the pyro
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, VALVE?
WHAT IN THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE?
>>344330692
You have to rank up to leave the shitter at rank 1. Of course you're going to get the retards in the first few matches you play in, that's the purpose of ranked matches, you have to rank up, and then get put with people of similar rank. The more you play, the better the players you'll play with will be.
>>344343463
The difference between soldier and Pharah is that soldier doesn't have a "get out of fuck up free card" (unless you use the base jumper, but then you don't have a shotgun) if he messes up his rocket jumping and fall damage is a thing.
Pharah has two with on fall damage.
>>344327197
>matchmaker puts me on a server with 120 ping
I don't like this.
>>344328738
>boringwatch
>winning anything
lol
>>344343675
>Being good at rocket jumping, is also not the same as being good at the game.
While I agree with this statement, I just don't think you can be a fully efficient soldier if you cannot rocket jump the way you want to.
In that sense, rocket jumping is more part of the skill floor than it is part of the skill ceiling.
>>344344291
Pharahs rl is so fucking shitty. It's literally a slower dh.
>>344344621
Soldier is also not the only class in the game. He and demo are the only characters that can rocket/sticky jump. So the rest of the cast are as skill deficient as any Overwatch character.
>Righteous Bison: Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times
>fixed a bug
>a bug
>bug
>bug
>bug
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>BUG
>heavy vs. pyro update
>the first thing they do is nerf heavy and buff pyro
>>344344779
>What is Scout dodging with his double jumps.
>What is Uber management.
>What is building management.
>What is cloak management.
>>344340092
It's reflectable, it's just ass to reflect, and even then it has good chance of exploding right in your face or before it reaches it's sender.
>>344344779
Yeah, there are classes that are harder to play than others. What's your point?
>>344344839
This lends more evidence to my theory that every TF2 update in the past few years has been done by a completely different group of people who knew nothing about the game, had wildly differing uninformed views on what it should be, and didn't know why previous design choices were made. Like Valve just put some random people in a room, let them play the game for a while, and then put them in charge of the update.
It's the only way to explain such baffling choices.
Why the fuck did they get rid of quickplay?
I like payload. I only wanna play payload. I could press the Quickplay Payload button and I'd instantly be in a payload server full of players. Now I have to deal with finding a shitty community server in the browser instead of just being able to hop into a Valve server.
Or I have to wait 15 minutes to find a "Casual" game which is just competitive without ranks and I don't get to choose my map or mode.
I hate this in Overwatch and I hate it here. They copied one of Overwatch's WORST aspects.
>queue for competitive
>connection failed after 4 retries
>rejoin
>sits on sending client info
>connection problem as soon as I get in the game
>my internet is actually just fine
>que into matchmaking
>first game I get has an aimbot hacker
why even play PC games
>>344339498
It's from that "what if Gumball was an anime" video.
>>344344930
>What is Scout dodging with his double jumps.
Genji double jumps and has the same agility as scout.
>What is Uber management.
Ults for every hero except Mercy who charges retardedly fast.
>What is building management.
Torbjorn and Symmetra.
>What is cloak management.
Pointless against good pyros and anybody who fucking pays attention to running into a spy. Spies are worthless against good players.
>>344345536
and I get a fucking 30 minute cooldown
great fucking game, valve
Why are so many people crying about the spy buff when he still isn't viable? You only get the speed buff while cloaked, or while disguised as spy, scout, or medic. Literally nothing is gained other than possibly making a chainstab of any sort a little bit easier, but it's not like you can even do that with the amount of people that have headphones nowadays. Spy is still in the gutter, he has a fucking class built to counter him for fuck's sake, he literally can't do anything without over one-thousand hours of training under one aspect of his class.
>>344345295
The dota 2 cosmetic team was actually changed twice already. This is an actual confirmed change since community 3D modelers usually have inside contacts. The second team were the retards responsible for those awful dance taunts.
I'd not be surprised the same thing plagues TF2.
>>344345726
>Pointless against good pyros and anybody who fucking pays attention to running into a spy
>"I can't cloak without always bumping into someone like a retard"
>>344345726
Scout is actually faster than tracer and genji. Some guy on youtube actually made measurements to figure out theur movement speed in meters and how much advantage tracer could get with blinks. She loses.
>>344327197
I feel the same way. The only strange part is how many people are actually playing the objective.
I was playing some payload and there were almost too many people at the cart, both in defense and offense. Which resulted in too many people dying from splash damage.
It was like people wanted to pitch in a little more, but didn't understand how to do it properly.
>>344341530
All three casual matches I managed to play were COMPLETELY fucking one-sided where one team was spawncamped for a round until half of them rage-quit and then the second team won at the first cap next round.Two of those three times, I was on the team that facerolled.
>>344345726
>Genji double jumps and has the same agility as scout.
Shame he's in a game where everyone, including him, feels slow as fuck.
>Ults for every hero except Mercy who charges retardedly fast.
Yes, but the Medic's uber is more important because if you die you lose all of it. In Overboring you keep ult unless you switch hero.
>Torbjorn and Symmetra.
A hero who only needs to set down 1 building and smack it with a wrench infinitely and a hero who spams mini sentries all day.
>Pointless against good pyros and anybody who fucking pays attention to running into a spy. Spies are worthless against good players.
>He's so retarded he bumps into players.
>He's so retarded he can't handle a good Pyro.
Git gud.
>>344345713
No anon, that's not what I recognize.
I'm so rustled, they took the main reason I played this game (playing in a valve pub server) and threw it out of the window.
I don't even know what to say, do I have to start playing this game seriously to have fun with it now?
>>344343619
>>344343814
>mfw pre nerf enforcer/spycicle/DR spy on crits only orange
HOPE YOU DIDNT PLAN ON HAVING FUN
>>344346052
All the Overwatch heroes have the same movement speed. Everything is compensated by abilities.
>>344346249
Or you can play a new Game. Time to move on.
>>344345726
>>What is Uber management.
>Ults for every hero except Mercy who charges retardedly fast.
Uber depletes on death; ultimates in Overwatch do not.
>>What is building management.
>Torbjorn and Symmetra.
They can only build one type of structure, and don't have to worry about them being instantly destroyed along with themselves by an invisible class.
>>What is cloak management.
>Pointless against good pyros and anybody who fucking pays attention to running into a spy. Spies are worthless against good players.
You mean bad spies are worthless players. You clearly have never encountered a good spy.
>>344327197
I actually liked the old quickplay and they ditched it.
Likewise the old valve servers.
Call me whatever you like.
You are probably not off in your description.
>>344336093
Imagine every class having Huntsman sized hitboxes.
>>344346379
Except that's wrong. Look it up.
>>344345012
The hardest character in Overwatch is still easier than the easiest character in TF2.
Holy hell, why do people suddenly pretend Valve Servers were any good?
I mean, yeah, they were vanilla. But full of noobs. This is much better
>>344346379
lolno a lot of them move at the same speed but not all of them
>>344346406
I think I'm going to start taking UT4 seriously now, even if it has a small playerbase for now. I absolutely hate the idea of taking team-based games seriously, I don't like the idea of only being as good as the sum of my teams parts. I like arena shooters and fighting games because they don't have this team-based shite.
i'm done with the game until they add back quickplay or some facsimile
I don't want to play competitive lite
>>344346460
just play on community servers.
>>344345295
Valve is Bethesda, and TF2 is Fallout.
It all makes sense now.
>>344346553
Nah, matchmaking servers are still populated by the same brain-dead morons as valve servers, the only difference here is that
>I can't pick what map I'm going to play on
>I have to wait 10-20 minutes before being able to join a game
>I get penalized for leaving early and can't hop in a game in progress
This is objectively worse.
>>344327197
Oh wonderful shilling shit.
I bought fucking Orange box years ago and now Valve want a working fucking number as well from competitive mode? What is this fucking shit.
>>344341982
There was a time, long before you came here, that /v/ hated TF2 because it was casual compared to other FPS.
>>344345295
Well no shit. The old team moved on to new projects, probably Dota 2. That's how it is with every game development team.
Look at WoW and all the people it's blown through and the terrible design choices that have gone with it. The director is probably the same, but the new team has different ideas they all pitch and if the director thinks it's good, it gets in.
>>344346379
>All the Overwatch heroes have the same movement speed: slow as a console military shooter.
FTFY
>>344346553
Valve servers were a completely random mixture. You'd rarely find really amazingly good players on there but you'd get a good mixture of shitters and decent players.
If you wanted to take TF2 seriously then you already had a plethora of choices available to you.
>>344346703
>24/7 ALL-CRITS 2FORT
>ALL CRIT ORANGE_MINECRAFT_TDM
>[CIRCLEJERK CLAN] 24/7 KOTH STOCKS (DONATE MONEY FOR INCREASED HEALTH)
>TRADE SERVER MINECRAFT_MYLITTLEPONY_TRADECITY
>HEAVY PICNIC RP SERVER GM_MYLITTLEPONY_HEAVYS_PICNIC
>ACHIEVEMENT_IDLE
>ACHIEVEMENT_IDLE
>ACHIEVEMENT_IDLE
>ACHIEVEMENT_IDLE
>PLEASE DISBALE HTML_MOTD TO JOIN THIS SERVER SO WE CAN GIVE YOU A FUCKING VIRUS
>casual match
>half of my team just afks in spawn
>no way to kick them
>if I leave ill get a penalty
>3 matches in a row
I expected competitive to ruin TF2, but I expected it to be a long, slow process where people gradually took the game too seriously, and weapons were "balanced" to the point of not being any fun. I was pleasantly surprised to see that they instead of letting the game die slowly, they just shot it in the back of the head.
>>344346808
How do you not have a valid phone number?
>>344347023
Those MOTD messages were the main reason I only ever played on valve servers. I think the last time I played on a non-valve server I was stuck with a MOTD that would literally stay up for 30 seconds.
>>344347023
just filter out the shit servers.
>>344345295
>introduce phlog
>nerf it because of complaints
>buff it to be even stronger than it was in the beginning
>nerf it to be even weaker than after the first nerf
mind boggling
>>344347189
That would mean a blank browser window, though.
>>344342497
This is why I stopped playing, pretty much. I hate those faggots at Valve so much for what they did to TF2. It used to be a super fun game and I fucking loved every single class and all their crazy loadouts but then Valve went full NO FUN ALLOWED mode and nerfed everything into oblivion. Why even bother playing if the defaults are better than everything else?
Nowadays I'll only play a couple of hours a week in Valve servers and go for the objective. I also main Soldier now since it's the only class that's still fun due to rocket jumping. Fml.
Any one experiencing a bug at the end of a match? No badge points?
>>344347108
>competitive to ruin TF2, but I expected it to be a long, slow process where people gradually took the game too seriously, and weapons were "balanced" to the point of not being any fun
exactly what happened to league of legends with the Esports Gook olympics
>>344347108
>mfw blizzard paid valve to kill their game so we all switch to overwatch for good
>>344347189
the game used to do that for me, it was called FUCKING QUICKPLAY
>>344342497
RIP Caber, for some reason
>>344335956
>valve will never support vanilla mode
It's time like these I am glad the console versions aren't updated. Although it's far from perfect. Controller, 30fps that dips, only a few maps, no airblast, 720p, glitches and exploits, cancer modders that don't know how to mod and only use mods to fuck with people.
the list goes on. I really am still dreaming for that vanilla mode. If that happens TF2 will officially be one of my favorite games again.
>>344344301
120 is nothing you scrub
>>344336767
See, this is why I stopped playing TF2.
>just play on a community server
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>344340132
I would punch my monitor over that utter bullshit. I don't even play Widow.
>they nerf natascha
>they nerf brass beast
just
WHY!?
>>344344301
Oh God, can you not filter by ping? Please tell me people are going to get fired
>>344347528/v/ has a server
>>344347528
Fuck man, I have not even played after this update. I mained valve servers just because they were always available and always had default settings.
Many servers do have default settings but have instant respawn which is cancer as fuck. It destroys the flow of the game.
>>344336767
You need to just go spy and embrace it
>>344347528
>Tags: do not include: bot,furry,rp,achievement
WOOOW
SO HARD
>>344347323
>FUCKING QUICKPLAY
and it was a mistake that hurt a lot of good community servers.
>>344347279
yeah it happened to me once
>>344347528
>set tags to "do not include"
>fill in the box to the right with shit you don't like
There, that should fix it
>>344347781
about the furry tag, the furry pound's alright if you turn off sprays and want just default maps only with end of round map vote
>>344347781
I just want my valve servers back. I don't want any of these shitty community servers with their awful game-modes, garbage maps and MOTD junk.
>Make Pyro/Heavy Great Again
>ruin TF2
like pottery
Why does Valve need my phone number for me to play competitive?
>>344348291
They don't.
>>344327197
>Heavy nerfed again
Holy fuck. Are there any heavy players left in this game anymore? I'm so glad I play soldier, I've never seen such abuse towards players of a certain class or character in my life.
>Overcucks in full damage control
Based Gabe.
>>344348386
Reminder that people ACTUALLY think Heavy is spoiled compared to pyro
>>344347813
>good community servers.
Poor poor instant respawn 24/7 2fort servers.
>>344348445
this kills the valvedrone
>>344348445
Gabe's a brony though-
>>344348291
It's an easy form of ID that prevents duplicate accounts for cheaters.
>>344348010
>Degenerates are pretty cool guys to hang with if you're blind and deaf!
>>344348386
>are there any heavy players left in this game anymore?
Are you serious? The heavy spam is unreal. Only today did I manage to play a game without half the enemy team playing heavy.
