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my sides are in orbit
https://youtu.be/czOOLWuHqRc

kek is this looks shit even by alpha standards
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WE
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It's as ugly as a dice game.
Nobody uses bolt action.

What's the point if making a WW game?
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Well, not really. Alpha is like when they kinda have all the features in but haven't refined anything
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>>344322331
WUZ
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>>344322128
looks like an alpha

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OF A SHITTY GAME!!! BOOM!!!
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>>344322128
the historical inacuracy made me puke

the devs should be ashamed
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>armored blimp
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>>344322905
Yeah its too gamey
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Who knew those little tanks could get so much speed on rough terrain?
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>Register for that insider shit the right when it was possible
>No alpha key
>People who didn't even register have been receiving keys
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>>344322836
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

It's an Alpha.
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FRANCE DLC
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>>344322905
>People are suddenly mad about historical accuracy and realism in a Battlefield game
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>>344322546
STOSSTRUPEMN
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>>344323595
World War 1 seems to be pretty popular with the same black guy
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>>344323595
>>344322331
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>>344322128
Holy shit that door opening.
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>even by alpha standards
Why do children these days not know what Alpha means?
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well they better make a map where the british have to walk at a machine gun, not run, literally WALK at a machine gun, just like they really had to because running at it was considered cowardly and they really did, my grand fathers father who was actualy fucking there had to do it i know because my grandfather told me about him and what he had to do. you can even go to the imperial war museum and find out for yourself
the tactics in general about this game are fucking wrong and i find it insulting to the memory of the men who were there
the devs should be fucking ashamed of themselves
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>>344324289
To be fair, every game likes to throw that "THIS IS JUST PRE-ALPHA" on their promotional material when that level is clearly 100 percent done. I guess they're not lying since all the other ones are still undone and the trailer is just throwaway code but it paints a very false image of what an alpha game looks like
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>>344323529
Yea yeah reddit you just earned +1 goodboy points
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pY3hlQEOc0

Why are the zeppelins flying so low?
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>>344324058
>that lighting
>that cloth
>that ground
>that focal length/brightness
Hnnnnng
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>>344326812
Because it's a video game
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>>344322128
Why the fuck are there any weapons beside bolt actions?
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>>344326812
Because
>muh cinematic experience
>shitty engine that can't handle proper scale
Battlefield games map design is already a load of empty space between very small points of interest, don't make it any fucking wider and emptier. It's not ARMA.
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Post the weapon you'll be using in BF1.
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im more triggered that the lever action rifles require you to dezoom after every shot even though that was why the lever action mechanism was invented
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>>344323595
I hope its just a beta/alpha thing. If you can't customize the model you play as, fuck this game.
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>>344328691
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>>344328352
Because the Battlefield audience has a panic attack if they can't spray and pray.

Gotta make what sells, bro.
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>>344326378
>muh reddit boogeyman
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>>344323529
When you're doing a historical setting, people care about historical accuracy, who would have thought?
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>>344322128
if i had a laugh like that i'd take a vow of silence
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>>344329412
that gun didn't exist in WW1 you nig nog
but pic related
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>>344328810
I've only shot a .30-30 lever action, but you can't really keep aim between shots well; you really need to put some force behind the lever if you want it to feed properly
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>>344329613
Oh, my mistake
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>>344328352
They definitely went scouring to fill up their arsenal with enough shit to pad out their typical weapon unlocking grindy Level up list. There were weapons light enough to carry around other than bolt action and semi-automatic rifles in the 1910s, but a scant few automatic weapons only in the end of the war.

While the Solo campaign (is there even a singleplayer campaign?) may be a bit more chronologically minded, the multiplayer portion of the game isn't going to give a shit about that and basically every battle is set in 1918.
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>>344323529
Name a single historical battlefield game that had this much inaccuracy in it. There isn't one. Now you're trying to make it seem like its comparable to previous titles? Go fuck yourself, retard.
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>people bitching about historical inaccuracy in a Battlefield game

Do Battlefield: 1942 and Medal of Honor trigger you guys this much as well?

Complaints about the nigger soldiers are completely valid though
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>>344323595
>>344324058
>that ps2-tier smoke texture in the background
literally what
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>>344330280
What's so inaccurate about those games then anon?
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>>344323595
>sameface black guy in 80% of the german squad
>every weapon has a massive fucking bayonet on it

I seriously fucking hope you can customize this shit. Otherwise no buy for me.
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>>344328691
I'm gonna be real for a sec here
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>>344330280
I don't give a fuck about the guns, Dice was bound to scrape the bottom of the barrel for those, it's only the over representation of blacks I care about. Cool with the Indian thou
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Looks like /v/ is trying to find anything they can to hate this game. When I know you're all buying it. You dont 'actually' care about 100% historical accuracy. Plus the bugs in BF3 alpha were way wackier than this.
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>my coworker keeps going on about how good Battlefield 1 will be
>always holding my tongue because he's a cool guy besides that and I wouldn't want to ruin the fact that he seems to like me over video game opinions
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>>344330712
Where does the black in the Central Powers even come from? African colonies?
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>>344323595
>>344324058
>whitey is a minority
Is this some alternate future thingy?
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>>344330816
No one has asked for 100% historical accuracy. So stop fucking pretending they are you disingenuous autist.
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>>344330875
But it is going to be good and fun. See >>344330816 You are just trying to be contrarian right now, but the day it comes out you're gonna be over all those issues you had.
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>>344330875
you should fug him
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>>344330875
Oh no, people have different opponions? What the fuck!
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>>344330962
Then why are you people acting like this is some kind of scifi alternate universe WWI just because a few guns (that existed at the time) are a bit more available or commonplace?

You guys could bitch about Wolfenstein if the devs claimed historical accuracy was important to them, but not this.
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>>344330816
>When I know you're all buying it
You can't know this
I know you suck cocks from your post tho
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>>344330895
I guess. Most Colonial African soldiers stayed in Africa though. England was the one who imported soldiers from all over the world
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Since you can pilot the zeppelin, I hope this means the battleship is player driven too.

My biggest problem with BF1 is planes spawn in like fucking Battlefront. No airfield, what the fuck. Don't give me that bullshit about people flying in just to abandon, it still happens and still happens with ground vehicles.
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>>344331207
Because they are not even trying.

WWI should be the skeleton gameplay is designed around.
Instead its just standard CoD skeleton with WWI skin stretched around it.

I wait for BF American Civil War and you bitching at hipfiring cannons.
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>>344322387
I get what you mean, but Battlefield games have never been known for accuracy.
If they wanted to be correct, all the U.S forces in BF3 and BF4 would be using M4s and M9s as their sidearms

Tbhqh they should've made a WWII game on the eastern front, red orchestra is getting old.
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>>344331492
Im not even sure what you're asking for at this point now that you have transitioned away from accuracy and into gameplay. Its series suicide if you expect them to all of a sudden turn Battlefield into Verdun or Arma. Do you want like realistic boots getting stuck in mud mechanics too?
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>>344331207
>a few guns
but its not just a few guns is it? the player models are nearly entirely made up of extremely minor players in WW1. France isn't even in the game at all despite most of the major fighting taking place in and around their country.

It's also not "a bit more available" when every class except for the sniper can't use bolt action rifles. Which were used by 90%(probably more) of the soldiers in the war.

Not to mention DICE themselves went out and said the reason they removed the option for a female soldier in MP was because it wouldn't be "Historically accurate". You can't argue to do something for historical accuracy then go full fucking fantasy (more than half the german team being black). DICE are the ones who created this "historical accuracy" shit in the first place when they claimed they made changes based on it. Yet its perfectly okay to have an overabundance of minority groups in these armies despite that they were very few and most (in Europe) were limited to the British army.
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>>344322128
It is. Bored of it after being in alpha for a week. Not because it's an alpha that lacks content, but because it's just another battlefield reskin, has shitty weapons with high spread on every shot, boring vehicles and the airship has proven to be a worthless gimmick.
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>>344322387
>nobody used bolt action
I will and I will fucking own sub machine gun kiddies
just like in COD 13 years ago
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Can't wait for this game :)
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>>344331207
>acting like this is some kind of scifi alternate universe WWI
that's actually the most accurate way to describe it
>map design is exactly the same as modern warfare
>every soldier has a submachine gun
>guns, armies, vehicles, locations, and clothing don't match the time period *at all*
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>>344322905
They said its an alternative history you dumb fuck if you're going to complain at least do some research
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>>344332298
DELETE
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>>344331668
If they want to make a WWI game make some effort in making it more than a skin.
Lets be honest, if they had some creativity they would make a steampunk game to get more freedom and allow more suspension of disbelief.
But they are hacks that just want to setting and guns to be made for them.
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>>344322905
No they shouldn't

WW1 is historically a boring and shit war.
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>>344332161
Rifles do less damage when in CQC
Hope you can run fast enough for bayonets
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>>344331012
Whatever helps you sleep at night, shill. I have never bought a Battlefield game and this one certainly won't make me do an exception.
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>>344332725
delet this
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>>344332725
>WW1 is historically a boring and shit war.
American education.
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>>344323529
What's the point of making a WW1 game if it's not actually WW1?
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>>344332725
This must be bait
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>>344330280
Because they made a big point about actually listening to their consumers and trying something new, and people got extremely hyped for it

And now it turns out that it's basically a World War 2 shooter that their gonna pretend is a WW1 shooter
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>>344330941
No, this IS the future.
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>>344332725
>>344333025
>>344333097
It's not how you can craft a game around WWI, it's how the fuck do you create a TRIPLE A game around WWI?? The minute I heard them announce WWI and saw the trailer I knew they were taking massive liberties to make it faster, more epic, and grand. So far in the gameplay from the ALPHA we haven't seen that epic nature yet, but it looks fast as hell. And that can be a detriment or not. But does it look faster than Battlefield 4 to any of you? It seriously does but I haven't played it. When I first saw the gameplay at E3, I thought, "did they turn this into COD??"
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>>344333142
to make money off of casuals
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>>344322128
When the fuck do we see the Nazis...?
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>>344333539
Shieeeeeeeeeet
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>SJWs and agenda pushers push these historical rewrites so much that in the future people will think this version of history was the real one

It's probably what they're planning in the long run anyways.
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>>344333716
>WW1
>Nazi's

American detected.
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>>344333971
You're a real piece of shit, you know that?
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we
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>>344333716
the sjw's removed them
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>>344332725

Hey genius, reality is boring and shit that's why there's never a game 100% realistic
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>>344322128
what are alpha standards?
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Do we really need these threads so damn often? It's just the same stupid shit every time until it gets deleted.
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>>344328691
I'm afraid the joke went over their heads.
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>>344322128
>he thinks this is bad
Lmao, you've obviously never played an "early access pre-alpha" game before. What you see in that video can easily be considered a finished game compared to the average pre alpha experience.
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>>344322128
>wow he is turning around this field gun by himself guys this game is so bad
Literally the worst point you could criticize
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>>344334174
>getting this triggered by the simple fact that blacks have lower IQ's than whites, asians, and even the dirty mexicans

"B-b-but we're all the s-same, everyone is equal! IQ is just a made up test that is racist!"
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>>344334761
I think you might be retarded. He's obviously talking about the animation.
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>>344333716
Cosmetic Hitler DLC when

>>344331753
>DICE themselves went out and said the reason they removed the option for a female soldier in MP was because it wouldn't be "Historically accurate".
DICE said never said a word about female soldiers. It was an ex-dev who spilled the beans on that, and she said that the reason for removing them was that people wouldn't buy them existing, regardless of whether they existed or not. Realism had no part in the decision, it was all about the money.

>>344324058
I sure do love cherrypicking by having four of the soldiers be the same class even though all five other classes are white!

Also, CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION. There are files for it. Pic related, it's one of the face files, which all have names.
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>>344331116
People have opposing opinions?.
Wtf i hate opinions now
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>>344335074
>people posting comments about opinions

wtf i hate 4chan now
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>>344333716
At the same time as the surrender monkey, of course!

Don't forget that every French player will receive only a white flag as a weapon! lol we're such historical geeks :)
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>>344322128
That looks like shit. What went wrong?
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>>344335006
Far worse glitches in the alpha than a shoddy animation. Like phantom reloading, invisible walls, broken revives, and teleporting into the air when vaulting. All of these have been in the series since BF3 at the latest.
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>>344335328
>EA
>DICE

hmm
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>>344334956
Those cops should have kept their hands were the protestors could see them.
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>>344322128
>shit even by alpha standards
You never see true alphas unless you are internal at a studio. The fact the game has textures actually puts it ahead of most technical alphas. Regardless, looks like shit.
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>>344335575
ouch
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>>344335328
EA games have steadily been going downhill overall.
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>>344335741
>Says the guy who posted this >>344334956
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>>344335041
>Also, CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION.
Until DICE comes out and actually confirms this then I'm going to assume it won't be in. The most character customization we've had in a battlefield game so far is in Battlefront (which isn't a battlefield game to begin with) and even then it was just swapping out pre-set soldiers. You couldn't change how your equipment looked at all.

I hope you're right though of course but I seriously don't think we're going to be customizing our soldiers and they'll just be lazy and have them tied to your class as usual.
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>>344335823
nope, different guy

you're still an edgelord
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>>344335575
A cop's job is to keep the law.
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>>344336047
Excuse me for assuming that you were the other guy.

Being an edgelord is better than being a fucking racist.
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>>344323595
>>344324058
Sort of like when /b/ raided Habbo Hotel as black guys with Afros, I can imagine a 4chan clan that only picks black sknis
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>>344335859
I think there's a fairly high chance of Battlefront-style facial options seeing as there is a set of face files in the alpha, separate from the rest of the class-specific graphic files, and there is facial reuse among classes.

Also, more cosmetic options = more microtransaction opportunities for EA. And we know how much they love those...
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>>344336315
>Being an edgelord is better than being a fucking racist.

no its really not

and the fact you think that means you need to go back to plebbit, finish high school, or both
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>>344336315
LOL ikr we should just like get rid of cops like why do we even need them there just to keep da mane down ya know? like really upboated
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>>344336329
I hope so. Soldier customization beyond weapons would be amazing, even if its just very basic stuff like helmets/hats and faces. I really like the flat helmets the Brits used and I'd like to have one all the time regardless of class.

I've pre-ordered it though since I like what I've seen so far and will without a doubt enjoy it. Hopefully it does relatively well (and is also a good game) which encourages more devs to move back from the future/modern era to older timelines again.
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>>344336482
Neither, actually.

Guess we're done here, then?
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>>344336673
Either way, you're still embarrassing.
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>>344332725
Fuck you.
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>>344336315
>not being racist
Literally going against nature.
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>>344337079
I'm going to be disappointed if they don't include map-wide gas attacks on certain maps/gamemodes to force people in to using gasmasks for a while
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>>344336642
>trynta grab a new pair of kicks
>no money tho
>go to get some from the 7-11
>flash my piece at the boy workin, he knows the drill
>fuckin cop outta nowhere, yellin at me nd shit
>flash my piece at him to let him know I aint a bitch
>get shot

smdh, fuck the police
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>>344337098
>he thinks /v/ is board tolerable for racism
>he wasn't here 6 years ago when /pol/ and /b/ were containment board for people like you
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>>344323595
i cant stop kekking holy shit this cant be real
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>>344337405
>6 years ago
>/pol/
You weren't here either.
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>>344337405
>people like you
You mean normal humans?
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>this looks shit even by alpha standards
does it?
this looks about right for an alpha
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>>344337405
>containing the first and second most busy boards with the most crossposters
>trying to stop them from going to the 3rd most visited board

never worked then, still doesn't work now

>/v/ doesn't tolerate racism

Hitler did nothing wrong ringing any bells?
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>>344324058

>try to create a nice promotional image for the game by posing all of the characters and kangs
>don't even bother to fix the gun clipping through the guys coat on the right

Clipping in game doesn't bother me, but it just seems pretty lazy for a promotional image that could have been easily fixed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV58sM37wAU
I mean, come on, it's 2016
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>>344336315
>Being an edgelord is better than being a fucking racist.

You have to first define why racism is not good before you can say someone should feel shame about being a racist.
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>>344337652
Test board

>>344337654
No cancerous people that would constantly be told to go back to the boards I mentioned
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>>344337823
>test board
No, it wasn't. It was /new/. I know. I was there.
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>>344330263
Battlefield 1942
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>>344337930
I was there too
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>>344337823
I think you got that backwards. People having prejudices against certain races is normal; You being a faggot about it is what's cancerous.
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>>344338140
Where were you? On /pol/?
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>>344331597
>Red Orchestra is getting old
>tfw we may never have a semi realistic shooter that good ever again
I can only pray Rising Storm 2 doesn't disappoint... and that Tripwire keeps making games
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>>344322128
I don't know what the hell you did to the colors in your webm. sure the animation might be terrible, but the game itself looks phenomenal.
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>>344337432
It is real. All the blacks are Medics, and that one white guy is the Assault.

I think it might be a beta only thing though. Battlefront let you choose your character model. Although Battlefield has multiple factions so maybe each faction just gets 6 models, while Battlefront had Rebels and Empire so it was always one of two.
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>>344338197
Purely /b/. You?
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>>344338535
>pre 2012 /b/tard
>anti-racist cancer

pick one
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>>344338535
/tg/ mostly, but also /new/, /v/, /k/, /fit/, and /b/.

RIP /tg/ ;_;. I will never forget you.
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>>344338732
fucked thing is what happened to /tg/ and /co/ is exactly whats happening here and on /tv/

circling the drain m8
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>>344337034
Wow, Anon, You really showed him what for..
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>>344338732
>RIP /tg/ ;_;. I will never forget you.
What's wrong with /tg/?
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>>344338719
I'm okay with racism if it's a joke, not when someone purely wants to hate on other races like a pathethic white /pol/tard. My opinion doesn't matter though.

>>344338732
I used to go on /mlp/ and /b/ when I first came. I wasn't into games that much to discuss them until I heard about Dark Souls coming to the PC. Ever since then I've been here.
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>>344339581
>I used to go on /mlp/
>I'm okay with racism if it's a joke, not when someone purely wants to hate on other races like a pathethic white /pol/tard.
Is it even possibly to contain this much faggotry in a human vessel, or have you transcended to your ultimate form - a dildo made purely of light?
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>>344322128
>>344322128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN6Q9dynAcY
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>>344336315
And niggers regularly commit murder even without being ordered to. You really should go back and finish highscool, Tyrone.
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>>344339084
Poor moderation, gimmickfags and shitposters who purposely shitpost, but keep it within the rules (they don't, if we go on the rules about trolls and flame wars outside of /b/) and they don't get banned.

With /pol/ and /tv/ crossboarders dragging their shit in.

Plus they autosaged Weekend Smut Threads because the mods couldn't be assed to keep deleting the shitpost spamming (and by doing so, did EXACTLY what the shitposters wanted, who just moved on to other topics).
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>>344339581
>/mlp/
>I'm okay with racism if it's a joke
>pathethic white /pol/tard

please tell me you are merely pretending to be retarded?

I refuse to believe this is not b8
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>>344338950
it happened to /k/ around the time of /tg/ and /co/ too, maybe earlier.

I miss it so
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>>344322128
I'm still buying it.
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YO. HOW THE FUCK DO I GET INTO THE ALPHA
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>>344339824
Why are you so mad. Yea I've the first two seasons of MLP a long time ago. I wasn't obsessed about it, like I'd go in /b/ threads and have fun over the pictures people would post about the manchildren and the cringe videos that would post on youtube before cringe compilations were a thing. There was a whole war against bronies at the time, but now you never see people speak the word.
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>>344340134
/k/s no where near as flooded with leddit cry babbies as the others

You will get loads of people bitching at you for saying "faggot" on /co/

Its turned into a whitebread safe space
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>>344335074
#ImwithEA
#NeverGoodGames
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>/v/ mad about a triple a dev not being historically accurate

wew lad
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>>344333971
>getting this triggered by one (1) image

Fucking kek EZ PZ
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Battlefield 1942 bugs all over again haha
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>>344340401
/k/ turned into Facebook/Reddit. It's like everyone forgot how to be funny, informative, or interesting. They just cap every little thing for posterity and repost it forever in humor threads. Same as humor threads here, really.

It's gotten better in the past year though.
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>>344340861
ah, i only started going with any regularity in the last couple months when my buddy gave me an old .38 i didn't know shit about

There are some cool guys, but i know the moderation has gotten nuts lately

>u cant talk about gun laws in this gun thread
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>>344340401
Same thing happened to me recently when I remarked on someone going to see an Andrew Jackson Jihad concert. I had no idea if he was being serious or not until I got 2 more replies saying the same thing. People say this board has been the same 6 years ago, but only some things stay the same like buzzwords and shitposters. Good taste and the type of people that visit the board does not stay. If I go into /mu/ now it feels like I'm visiting tumblr, no actual discussion just "recommend me an album" and general meme threads. I seriously can't believe /mu/ turned into shit so fast the past year
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>>344322128
I like the idea of being able to move/mess with artillery pieces.

but honestly I just wish DICE would release mod tools.

or that Verdun was less shit,

or that there was an actual competitor to battlefield (like how ww2:COD had Medal Of Honor as it's competitor)
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>>344340547
Why are you posting these pictures? Where's the burn and banter in them? Where's the context?

The picture he posted was funny because it shows how literally all the niggers dropped out of school, meanwhile you're posting kids hugging niggers as if that makes any point. Weak stuff - step up your game, lad.
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>>344322128
haha rofl lmao
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>>344341415
>tfw a cuckold near you has been triggered
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>>344322128

:^)

https://youtu.be/hj8rSuGeMd0
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>>344341529
>cuckold
>triggered
Really got me there, bruv
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>>344341295
>/mu/

shit, how did i forget about them

they might actually be the worst of all, not just the PC shit but seriously all of them have terrible taste
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the whole race thing is a distraction from a lack of content and/or nickel&diming everything,

>>344338262
what engine is rising storm 2 using?

I hope (if it's unreal 3 still,) tripwire learned the lesson from RO2/Rising storm,

I've seen Unreal Engine 4 footage that shows real time terrain deformation in a multiplayer server.. which might be neat (Ace of Spades with a little less abstraction and a little more content)
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>>344340367
>Why are you so mad.
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>>344338262
Given the mess RS has become and how badly they fucked up KF2, I'm thinking RS2 is going to be shit and not worth the full price.
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>>344341415
KEK
Keep going faggot your hate only adds fuel to my fire.
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>>344338182
No it's not. It's your underevolved self not having let go of the instinctual fear we felt in the stone age towards other sub species of humans.

Before we genocided their men and raped their women, that is.

You are now being openly discriminate against our brother homo sapiens sapiens. You make us weaker and you tear our societies apart with this chimp-like behavior.
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>Be mad that Battlefield One doesn't realistically protray the guns used in WWII

>Battlefield 1942
>Only 2 out of 5 classes use bolt actions
>The US, Free French, and Soviet Army uses the Lee Enfield No. 4
>The Japanese and Italians use the K98
>The British and Soviets use the BAR
>Japanese and Soviets use the MP 18
>Soviets and Free French using M1911
>Japansee using Walter P98
>Soviets using the Bazooka
>Japanese and italians using the panzershrek

That's just weaponry. Leave alone the anachronism of all the tanks and planes used throughout the various maps.

So either Battlefield 1942 is also shit, or you guys are hypocritical bastards.
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>>344345987
>>Soviets using the Bazooka
Actually that one can be defended because they did use them thanks to Land Lease.

But yeah I'm not sure why people think Battlefield is supposed to be accurate.
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see
>>344345987
There's a reason why Forgotten Hope was made in the first place for BF1942, kid.
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>>344345987
>We shouldn't ever improve things
>even 14 years old games
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>>344346734
Where did I say that? I'm pointing out the hypocrisy that everyone is surprised a Battlefield Game is unrealistic and not historically accurate.

You can still criticize it for being unrealistic, sure, but I can also criticize Mario for being unrealistically portraying physics and the athleticism of plumbers
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>>344336318
TRENCH'S CLOSED due to AIDS
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>>344346960
First battlefield was pushing the boundaries.
Now it doesn't get the free pass.

Also your inaccuracies are related to weapon mish mash that exist in every battlefield after 2.
People have problems with the entire feeling of WWI.
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