Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
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t-minus less than 30 minutes until the stream I don't fuckin know exact numbers go look at a clock bitch
>>344313505
>999
Went in withzeroinformation and expectation. It really captured me and blew me away in terms of twists and story. I had never read a VN before so it introduced me to that genre. Still one of my favorite games.
>VLR
A great sequel. Didn't like it as much as the first because of the characters and atmosphere, but the AB game was really effective because it made me feel like shit or great about myself depending on what I chose even tho I knew I could just change my choice afterwards. Impressive
>ZTD
Disappointing. A lot of good stuff, but it's not the satisfying conclusion I wanted. Delta's character and motivation makes no sense to me and the climax sucks.
how do you think he's doing?
>Flip coin
>win
>credits roll
>uninstall
The best part of the game is the memes that arose.
Stream starting in 21 minutes
hitbox / blick-winkel
>>344314768
his mood has very high highs and low lows, just like ztd
>>344314785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJhkDghKoNI
>>344314871
What will you be streaming, the whole game?
>>344314919
Of course. I did 999 / VLR before ZTD was released as well.
>>344314975
Ah, okay. I had been avoiding these threads like the plague so I didn't know anyone was or had been streaming.
>>344314867
I don't know why their target was new fans when the whole social media thing was what pushed ZTD out of development hell, honestly
It had a few great fanservice moments with the funyarinpa and Phi and Sigma arguing but they were like one second each. I wanted to see the characters actually interacting.
I wish the teams had gotten shuffled so there would have been more variety in the interactions but that wouldn't have worked because Uchikoshi was so committed to his stupid Blick Winkel 3.0 twist
>>344314992
I really have to believe that the game had a shit-ton of cut content. It's the only way I can imagine Dio, Kyle and ? all getting left out, none of the characters having any fuckin development whatsoever over the story, Carlos just kind of being there and learning to SHIFT at random and the whole franchise just ending with Delta talking at you MGS2-style.
Holy fuck that reminds me I still have to play The Phantom Pain and see another one of my favorite franchises end on a shitty note. I don't think my heart can take that, Anons. God damn it.
probably my favorite ZTD meme
>push the button
>break the transporter
>bomb the door
>have kids while starving
Diana's husband was probably doing the right thing
You know a game is bad when it spawns more memes than actual discussion
I keep hoping a Q&A can help ease SOME of the disappointment, but then I remember we might not even get one:
>Q11 - "After ZTD's release, do you plan to conduct another "Uchikoshi Questions & Answers" event like you did with 999 and VLR?"
>"So, we don't have any specific plans. I mean, of course if fans come at me with questions, I would love to answer them, but one of the goals for this title is to resolve all the mysteries of the previous title, so I don't foresee there being a lot of questions from fans, but you never know."
facebook com/operationbluebirdze3/posts/1024948114210916
>>344315816
Just forward this to him in some form.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/119KAG03eZU_LINfXzW8_S_qADh91Qm0OgzhiX1EIPS4/edit
>>344315452
Carlos was the best meme.
>>344315854
You're going to shoot me if I shoot myself?
>>344316039
give sigma the damn malk
>>344316036
>Junpei punched Akane in the stomach just before this
the absolute madman
>>344316039
Why is she so cute. Even kills herself after killing a guy who will just cuck her. D a best.
Damn, if only the PSTV patch went live with the game originally.
>>344315578
>Junpei, while understandably different after the events of 999, felt a little too drastically changed after only a year
I disagree. It's reasonable to think that he's become significantly more bitter within a year after Akane flat out abandoned him at the end of 999. His backstory with the detective agency makes sense too, it's obvious he's seen some shit.
What are their lengths and girths?
ZTD was the only game I played on release, with VLR being played after one year of its release and I forgot when I played 999 but who cares.
But were there any VLR memes?
>>344315556
The Trash Disposal room irritates the shit out of me. With all of the shit they were passing back and forth in that room there had to have been something capable of deflecting a bullet, or better yet why couldn't she just crack that bitch open and removes all the rounds that weren't blanks?
>>344316615
Eric has a microdick and cries during intercourse
>>344316615
>we will never get a 2D game with this delicious art
Post yfw uchi pandered to chad thundercock and other people who don't like reading with his FINAL game of the series
>>344316694
Did he fucked Mira?
What stream are you talking about OP
Stream starting
hitbox / blick-winkel
>>344316776
>x-passes
>VIRGIN
>>344316868
AWW SHIT
REAL ESPER HOURS
SMASH DAT MF BETRAY BUTTON
>>344316720
>ZTD had amazing art direction but lol no budget so it will look like dogshit for all of eternity
it hurts to live
>>344314785
>WE MUST GO BACK IN TIME TO PREVENT THE RELEASE OF RADICAL-6 BY CHANGING HISTORY ITSELF
>its a coin flip
what a letdown
>>344316615
Team "C" was actually a reference to Carlos's cock.
"C" is hex for 13, which is how big it is. When turned on, it doubles to 26 inches.
>>344317087
>winning the coin flip actually prevents the Radical-6 outbreak
Why even do the other endings?
>>344316558
I agree, at first I thought it was an edgy jumpydoll just for edginess, but as we learn more it's very understandable.The ring scene is kinda out of place, still
>>344316868
PICK RED AND END THE STREAM RIGHT THERE
>>344316558
I probably would've been way more pissed at someone after they pulled that shit on me like Akane did with Junpei.
>>344317504
The first flip is always the right one.
>>344317401
Because the coin flip doesn't prevent the religious nut from blowing everyone to shit.
>>344316558
doesn't excuse him in the least
>>344317648
Neither does anything in the other route.
>>344316868
Does the stream keep locking up and loading repeatedly for anyone else? It happens when I try and watch stuff on Twitch too and it's fucking annoying, I have no idea why
>>344317648
Allegedly
If the entire population was eradicated then no one should know about it
>>344315452
Please.
>>344317776
According to COMPLEX MOTIVES man at the true end, now that they have the power of friendship and determination they will stop him, I guess?
>>344317896
this stream is, yeah
>>344317721
You fucked up the characters.
>>344317958
Akane isa Schrodinger's Catgirl
>>344316114
No anon, she was a textbook sociopath.
>Callousness/Lack of Empathy
>Irresponsibility/Unreliability
>Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
>Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
>Shallow Emotions
>Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
>Manipulative and Conning
>Glibness and Superficial Charm
Autism is very different.
>>344317983
Well it makes sense actually. If they had just left it at that, then they wouldn't actually bother doing what Delta wanted them to. Plus if Delta really wanted to, he could have released Radical-6 even without the decision games.
>>344318147
It wasn't me and this way is even funnier
>>344317776
Except Delta killing most of the world's population. You did play the game, right Anon?
>>344317776
75% chance of killing him
Motivate and train 10 people with superpowers to change history without killing anyone
Pretty good deal if you ask me
Is the soundtrack available for download anywhere?
>>344317776
It was all just one big team-building thing y'know.
>>344318227
That describes Akane too
>buying the same game over and over again
Even japanese aren't that stupid. When will the weebs catch on?
>>344317401
I don't think so. Brother's whole goal in releasing R6 was to stop the terrorist from killing eight billion. If the coinflip is won and the cast escapes, do you really think Brother's going to say 'well, shit, that backfired, guess I'll just kick back and wait to be blown the fuck up in World War 3'? Nah, he's just going to take the lift downstairs, pick up the vials of R6, head into Vegas and poke a few people in the first crowd he sees.
I think what kills me more than anything about ZTD is all the wasted potential
Like going into it I was more hyped than I've ever been for any game and it stayed that way for the first few fragments and it looked like it was going to build up to this big conclusion
Then I got to Apocalypse and Outbreak and got further in and it became clear that there wasn't going to be any big resolution because they had to throw the terrorist in to make Delta ~~~morally ambiguous~~~ or whatever and it lost all sense of tension and just became C-Team's excellent SHIFTing adventure
Feels so fucking bad man it had some really amazing moments worked in there
>>344317958
I'm glad I made this
>>344318786
It was just a matter of time.
>>344318830
Giving Brother more motive beyond Left dying was where it mainly went wrong. By trying to make him good they had to do a lot of asspulls. Why he couldn't just be a terrorist is beyond me.
>>344318546
No, because the coin flip ends in the final ending, with the enlighted SHIFTed characters, so the outbreak isn't necessary anymore. It was an inevitable conclusion in the end, because all possibilities happen. The coin flip is won AND lost, and the losers will take the place of the winners because the choice is there. In the end it's all just inevitable.
11000 x 40 = 440.000 $
Are they broke?
>>344319689
how much did production cost?
The pieces in the heart puzzle change shade slightly when they aren't in the right position
>>344319796
50 bucks and sex with a politican's mistress
is there a link to the stream?
>>344320130
>Error: Duplicate file exists. here.
/r/ing Junpei stomping after the dice roll victory in gif or webm
>>344319292
I think there probably needs to be more explanation. I believe that Brother did try to save the world, but at the same time he's trying to mold it into an image as he sees fit. Considering how he has the transporter, there's no doubt that he's probably abused it and that there are multiple Brother clones running about.
>>344320127
hitbox tv / Blick-Winkelctrl+f next time, nigger
>>344319689
remember that steam takes 30%
>>344320130
I didn't get this scene. Why did Carlos pretend to rape Akane? At first I thought he was trying to get Junpei to kill him so he could shift, but then they just had a drink right after and went to the Force Quit box.
>>344320130
Destroyed my sides yesterday when I saw this pic.
My favorite OC so far
>>344320230
thanks man
>>344320413
Just to ruse Zero so that they could slide cards under their bracelets.
>>344320413
He did it so he can tell Akane to get cards, and lure Junpei away so he can secretly tell him aswell as Akane grabs the cards
He was convinced Junpei's a bad actor
What was your biggest mindfuck?
Mine was thatSigma is Phis father.Think about it he didn't knew himself for 1 and a half games nor did Phi
I'm going to marry Carlos!
>>344320413
He knew Delta was watching them and wanted to make a distraction so Akane could go collect some of the Ayyyy's trading cards
It was all for naught though, Delta knew what was going on because of mind hacc
Oh, must have missed that. How would he know to do that since this was a separate timeline? Was that SHIFT 9 times Carlos?
>>344320287
This looks fake as fuck
>>344320742
complex motives
>>344320742
It makes the casual dick and tit contest between them even better.
He never did get to see her in a swimsuit ;-;
What happened to the 2nd Carlos in the true ending?
>>344320928
holy shit
>>344321142
He's the fanatic that kills 8 billion.
>>344320928
This makes no sense.
Kyle is Sigmas clone which is created in the far future
>>344321023
kek
>>344321245
carlos killed 8 billion people because otherwise he would never meet akane and junpei
What did you guys think of them using the cards to block the needles? I thought it was pretty clever.
>>344321302
I think it's more directed at Uchi
>>344321479
PRETTY LAME.
Also rape scene would have been more convincing if he actually raped akane.
Hey guys I'm stuck near the end of the game,
how do I find Q's force quit password?
I've already talked to zero and got a code, but that was just to take off the helmet
>>344321479
It's shit just like everything involving aliens
>>344321479
I thought it was strange because I don't remember reading it hearing that the material was super tough. Didnt bother me too much though
>>344321587
>actually rapes Akane
IT WAS JUST A PRANK
>>344321479
>Not amputating your own arm to prevent memory loss
Uchi isn't the right kind of edgy
How do you think he feels given that Clover has been abducted by Akane and frozen for 45 years?
>>344321534
Kyle may be be popular but sadly he's just a placeholder.And basically a Sigma who was raised by Sigma
>we can't shift to that timeline, we're dead in it!
>literally every action taken by anyone results in timeline splitting
>no reason they can't jump to identical timeline where they aren't dead but everything else is the same
This has always bothered me.
>>344321598
You get the quantum password at the end of the timeline where you reveal zero is delta
>>344321445
It was actually Kyle mad that he was left out of ZTD and getting revenge.
>fucken while in desperate circumstances causes superpowers in your children
>delta informed inhuman time god of this fact
>yfw akane sets up a nonary game just so junpei can fill her up with his morphogenetic baby batter
Can I get more sexy art of Carlos/Sigma/Junpei?
>>344321142
Anon, that's the meme--none of us know what happens to him.
Moreover, if he lived his life as "Carlos", then he might've been arrested for being a fraud. (The same person can't be in two places at the same time, etc)
He just drops off the face of the Earth. Probably is a runaway or something. Some people here even like to say he becomes the religious fanatic.
>>344318830
>Like going into it I was more hyped than I've ever been for any game
This was your problem, moron. If you go into every game expecting a masterpiece you're never going to fucking enjoy yourself. The game was incredibly solid, an 8/10 and you're complaining about it.
>>344321598
go back to the first vote again and make sure you see all of the execution scenes. There's no real hint about how to do this but if you don't do it you won't progress.also get the fuck out of this thread before you get spoiled
>>344321752
>sigma raised sigma
>phi raised phi
>>344321731
they probably let them go in the TRUE ENDING since they are not needed for VLR stuff anymore
>>344319346
And yet Delta still kills a shitload of people to even the odds when odds don't matter in this universe.
>>344321587
What that scene reminded me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3IKMk5FmI
>>344321853
>>344321967
Thanks
>>344321909
>get more sexy art
>of stripper fireman Carlos
Fair enough
>of Mr father of the year Signs
Sure
>scrawny whiny Junpei
Nigga wtf you smoking?
Diana amiibo when?
>>344321949
>The game was incredibly solid, an 8/10 and you're complaining about it.
It really wasn't, maybe if you only played like 2 games of this kind in your entire life
>>344322082
no matter how many variations of this we get, they never stop being funny. it's beautiful.
Kyle... had a hard life
>>344322223
Who's that?
>>344322223
Is that a prototype for Sean?
>>344321995
i don't quite understand what you mean
phi was raised by american researchers wasn't she?
>>344322082
>>344322204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73O2NUM88mQ&index=1
So why exactly did they feel the need to turn Junpei into an edgy faggot?
HE'S GOTTA GET BACK
BACK TO THE PAST
>>344322085
I like how Carlos isn't even remotely bothered by Junpei punching him despite having egged him on even more. Junpei is THAT weak.
"Ahhh...that was a good one..."
"I can tell you're finally getting fired up over this"
>>344322436
>muh deep character that saw the bad in humanity!!!
>>344322569
Religious_fanatic_kills_6_billion_people.jpg
>>344322569
SAMURAIAXE_
>>344322138
>maybe if you only played like 2 games of this kind in your entire life
Well, there's only two other Zero Escape games.
>>344322665
oh THAT phi
holy fuck haven't even thought about that yet
>>344322680
I actually was in a tired haze when I did that part and he busts through the wall to save them.
How did he cause the rad 6 outbreak?
>>344322390
the phi we know was raised by the phi that was sent to germany in 1904 or whatever
>>344322436
To bridge into his VLR version, which is exactly what happens in one of ZTD's endings.
>>344322592
>Junpei doesn't solve any puzzles, his only idea involved him and Carlos dying to a hail of bullets which ultimately did not achieve anything, he gets cut into pieces like a bitch offscreen, and walks like a downie
>>344322924
Tenmyoji is was less of an edgelord than ZTD Junpei. Maybe Quark mellowed him out.
>>344322807
by not stopping delta from starting the game
>>344322665
But how did they decide on that specific date? Did they really just think hey let's send one of these magical teleporting babies into the future?
>>344322807
>How did he cause the rad 6 outbreak?
Did nothing to stop Zero just to play the hero who would bust Junpei and Akane out at the last second, it's the timeline where D-Team blows shit up, Sigma loses an and his arms, Phi gets injected with Radical-6, she becomes Patient Zero, Diana gives no fucks and just brings Phi out.
>>34432211410 months
>>344322665
>>344322786
>>344322904
but that means 1904 phi must've gotten way older than 100 years.
but i guess when Delta can do it then it shouldn't have been a problem for her either
>>344323147
>Phi gets injected with Radical-6, she becomes Patient Zero
Why is she allowed to live until April with the virus
>>344323013
Makes sense
>>344323185
>well into her 100s
>>344323096
>Maybe Quark mellowed him out.
Not maybe, definitely.
Junpei literally says that at VLR's true end, when he witnesses the old and bitter Akane, that Quark might as well be the best thing that happened in his life.
>>344323185
124 years
>>344323203
Assumedly she and Sigma immediately get put in the hospital after being rescued where she would be closely monitored and not allowed to kill herself.
>>344323096
Also Tenmyoji had to live through the apocalypse and beyond it. That would make anyone a bit grumpy. There was no need to explain it with the whole "I've been a detective and I've seen some shit"
>>344323128
yes but that underlines that "existing cause of given circumstances" theory even more
>>344318461
I get what you're saying, but Akane's case is shaped more from trauma and conditioning. She even explained her morality for it during the nuke part. She also loved Junpei.
Mira was straight up born like that.
>>344323338
How did she show up and volunteer to be frozen at the crash keys base
>>344322592
Or maybe Carlos is just that good of an actor, anon.
>"I didn't...if I had done that, then I wouldn't have met you guys!"
>Actually wanted to kill off 6 billion people
>>344322592
Well, Carlos is a well built Firefighter, Junpei is just a lean Nip.
Rank the stages of Jumpman
>>344323492
akane has her way i guess
>>344323510
Holy shit.
>>344323596
>fresh
>ripe
>expired
>>344323492
Radical-6 only has 75% mortality rate so maybe she was just one of the 25% lucky ones.
>>344323686
But it actually has a 100% mortality rate because 100% of people kill themselves and it took decades to find one person immune so they could engineer Axelavir
75% is a bullshit claim made by Uchikoshi to justify the biolab injection choice
you think now that they were smart enough to release it for pc the series finally gets the deserved attention?it would be perfect material for game theory
>>344317504
IT'S BLUE
WHO ARE YOU GOING TO LISTEN TO? SLUTTY MCHEARTTOUCHER OR PUNISHED JUNPEI?
>>344323596
1st Place: Vanilla Junpei
2nd Place: Tenmyoldy
3rd Place: Shadow the Hedgehog
>>344323596
Naked Snake, Venom Snake, Old Snake
>>344323929
Hardly, their engine was probably good for it.
Fuck off mustard race.
somehow I expected Quark to be under Sean's helmet
>>344324171
I expected kid Junpei to be under it but all I got was disappointment
>>344323379
No idea what you mean please elaborate.
>>344323596
>Virgin
>Can end up non-virgin
>On the way to die a virgin.
>>344323835
The 75% and 100% thing was just supposed to be an analogy for the choice between the outbreak or nuclear war (FBR) so the player thinks that the outbreak is the better choice.
>>344323596
>beta
>pussywhipped
>cuck
>>344322432
this is perfect
>>344323835
is the mortality rate of radical-6 stated somewhere in vlr? also a lot of deaths come from the attempt to cleanse radical-6 by exploding all of the nuclear reactors
>>344324297
Wait so how did Phi survive and get frozen then? Did they stop her from an heroing just long enough to freeze her? Didn't she volunteer? Or does the Radical 6 intense drive to kill self only last a little while?
>>344324341
thanks anon
>>344324297
>>344324374
>>344324504
Guys this is what I'm trying to tell you
75% is bullshit because it should've been 100%
The entire justification given to the player is "oh, it killed 6 billion of the 8 billion, so therefore that's a 75% kill rate of Radical-6", but in reality only 2 billion were directly killed by Radical-6 as stated in VLR
What you can derive from all of this is that Uchikoshi is a mind hack
>>344324297
oh that a great example to be fair
>>344324250
yeah sorry didn't quite understand that specific part either but you are right. phi's existance is a miracle
>>344324504
Who knows. Diana and Sigma were also likely infected and they had no problems either.
post old ZE memes
>>344316647
Because that would be blatant cheating?
>What nonsense are you trying to pull?
>It seems I wasn't clear enough.
You gotta play by the rules.
>>344324650
Radical 6 didn't infect everyone.
>>344324858
That's what I fucking said mate
How the fuck did Delta live to 124 though?
Ok so I'm about an hour into ZTD and I don't know what the fuck to think about this game. I went through all the initial voting choices and just saw Akane become a chainsaw-wielding murderhobo and this entire thing so far feels so ridiculous I'm not sure if I should be taking it seriously or not.
Does this get better at some point?
>>344324967
Epigenetics.
So it's implied that every decision in the game is just delta mind hacking the characters.
So how does that explain the timeline where Q team was executed? Who made the choices there?
Also if Delta was making the choices but did not have the shift ability, in canon he made the wrong choice on purpose for no gain i.e. blue button.
rip Q team
>>344325047
just keep on playing, enjoy the zany ride
>>344325047
It's shit, sorry.
You should probably leave the thread though
>>344324913
So Delta is just bullshitting? I thought his entire motive for using Radical 6 was because it would only kill 6 billion rather than 8. Did he somehow just know that this would result in a fuckton of people dying from nuclear reactors blowing up and not from radical 6 itself? If radical 6 has a 100% mortality rate and he knows this then that's the only explanation.
>>344325208
Yeah because apparently he mind hacked people who had returned from the future which is just stupid
>>344325070
It's only implied that he hacks the characters into making decisions that they normally wouldn't, like the executions.
>>344325047
Remember to unlock all the team executions at the beginning.
>>344325070
>Who made the choices there?
I think the mind hacking only applies to the choices they wouldn't have made due to the known outcome. Like Carlos choosing the wrong team to execute, or pressing the shower button. The blue button with the warning is reasonable to press since you don't know what will happen.
>>344325070
he can mind hack through the quantum computer
>>344325208
>>344325346
Or, more likely, he used the quantum computer to determine the results.
anyone have the snake = brother picture
>>344325135
They should've just removed Phi's glasses shadow, due the simple models and no light effects, that shadow will always be on the same place, as if it was a tattoo of some kind.
>akane enacts complex plan to allow junpei to save her from a furnace
>one year later he sticks her in a fireplace
>>344325070
>So it's implied that every decision in the game is just delta mind hacking the characters.
Not every.
Only decisions Diana, Carlos and Sean regret, which mostly are about killing others.
>>344325727
There's some references like this.
>>344325750
What's funny about this is how defunct it goes the moment you consider that his original callsign was Niels, as in Niels Bohr.
>>344325750
thanks anon
>>344325750
Too bad most of the assumptions in that picture don't work anymore. It's highly unlikely that Akane and Brother weren't working together.
>>344324761
Dio posting will never get old.
>>344326257
I understand now why Carlos appears to be more of the main protagonist than the rest, Delta has the exact opposite power.
Carlos gets shot = won't die
Delta gets shot = die
Holy shit
>>344326289
If there were two guys on the moon, and one killed the other with a rock, how fucked up would that be?
Why was this, again?
>>344326630
Akane being a bitch so business as usual.
>>344326630
Uchikoshit
What was the fucking point of the shoot Sigma or burn Phi decision? Specifically, the outcome where they both live?
That outcome serves no purpose whatsoever because Akane blows them all to hell immediately after.
>>344326630
She couldn't tell him that would ruin everything.So she lied.
>>344326808
Phi only is born in the timeline where she gets burned
post yfw M I N D H A C K
How did Carlos triggered human extinction? What kind of religious fanatic would do that?
>>344327201
Ironic considering that Ghandi wouldn't mind killing all humanity.
>>344327201
is this Sid Meier's Civilization Gandhi we're talking about?
>>344327145
>What kind of religious fanatic would do that?
Some famous ones?
United States and Japan had infamous cult leaders that preached that human extinction is actual salvation, some went with mass suicides meetings.
Just finished my first playthrough of 999 and I was wondering if it's worth it to get the other 5 endings? Should I just look them up instead?
>>344327576
have you gotten both Safe and True end? if so I'd say you're good
>>344327576
Safe and True are necessary as far as story goes. Anything else is optional.although Axe is terrific if you didn't get itand Sub's my personal favorite
I need some cool pics of Carlos without the gay shit.
>>344326969
yeah but in the timeline where they both live, they all get killed anyway.
It's pointless, with a few tiny tweeks you can just move the AB Game puzzle over to the timeline where Sigma dies and Diana offs herself and it would serve the same purpose.
The gun should have just been loaded full of live rounds instead of half blank half live.
>>344327670
>without the gay shit
good luck anon
>>344327637
>>344327660
I've only gotten the Sub ending. I guess I'll work towards the other two. Games pretty gud, I wish I could skip the puzzles that I've already completed though.
>>344327670
This is something. Too bad it's only a portrait, though.
>sold less than 10k combined in nipland
Zero Sales Dilemma more like
>>344328017
oh you are going to have the most intense hours of reading once you achieve the two significant endings
have fun my friend
>>344327576
completing the game as a whole with all endings is a playthrough, you just finished a chapter of it.
Literally the best bad ending
>>344328239
>no source
>>344328239
>japs
>good tastes
>giving a shit about zero escape
>>344328572
I think it was posted last thread
>>344327145
Are we assuming Carlos is the fanatic or something? Okay, I like this meme theory.
Think about this:
10 months Carlos experiences an identity crisis after he inadvertently causes billions to die. His will to save people dies and bitterness grips him while his pre-existing god complex takes over. He shifts over to the 2nd Carlos that exists in the CQD-2 end...
and that is how he starts to become the religious fanatic.
As Zero said, he's the snail that may cause the world to go extinct.
>>344326630
Her memories got wiped, remember?
>>344326959
I need this animationbut with her peeing
>>344328017
>I've only gotten the Sub ending
well then you didn't finish shit, man. Go get that true ending, and possibly the others aswell, some are fun
>>344328914
2nd carlos exists in all universes, just like phi and delta. that carlos is the memeatic carlos
>>344326969
Does that mean that Phi is a Phoenix?
>>344322432
>>344324341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4N6GJBApdk
I prefer Zero Time Enthusiasm
>>344329296
Reminds me of those Veggies parody on Aqua Team.
>>344328950
Not in that history. The one where she "forgot" is when she escaped by herself.
>stream starts
>all the LOL MEMES XD fags go there
>discussion comes to a stop because that's the only people that talk about this game
As expected from Zero Reddit Dilemma: Le Carlos edition
>>344329296
Kek
>>344329984
Because all the discussion has been had.
>>344329984
Nofunallowed.jpg
>>344329984
Only memes remain.
>>344326969
when i read this i didn't want to believe it but now i checked
how fucked up is this
>willingly deciding to kill your daughter
>taking brooch from her she got from her mother
>get babies and send them away where daughter gets the brooch
>circle is closed
>>344323596
Old Jumpy > Protag Jumpy > Edgy Jumpy
>>344320742
mine was thatthere is only one ward. but i guess because i got spoilered on the others
>>344324171
i want to fuck his boypussy
>>344320742
The hidden member.
>ZTD
http://pastebin.com/CEimcypC
>>344331221
nobody's gonna read your blogpost, faggot.
>>344331221
Yeah, no one is going to read all that. Edit your thoughts down if you want anyone to pay attention.
We need more Delta/Wesker memes
>>344329984
There is nothing left to talk about ZTD.
There are no more theories or anything because the game didn't answer shit and retconned stuff from VLR.
>>344321482Can someone actually post more Phi, I need to expand my collection
>>344331469
>>344331525
I read it and agree with most of it except the part where the little shit uses "gaming" as a verb
do you two not know how to read? is that why ZTD was your first zero escape?
>>344332060
i'll do what i can senpai
>>344332106
stop samefagging. you're embarrassing yourself.
>>344332230
crying about how everyone must be the same person is the most embarrassing thing you could possibly do
>>344320312
Even so, it's still $308,000. What was the budget, anyway?
really makes you think
>>344332618
>What was the budget, anyway?
Low
>>344332760
How low? I need numbers here.
>>344332765
aaaaaaaaaaaaand that's about all I've got
>>344332854
One chicken sandwich
>>344332618
That's ridiculously low for 1+ years of development.
What are the choices for "Who will you kill?" in the study?I've already done Eric, Mira, and Delta, but I can't seem to do Sean, Me, Myself, Gab, or Akane
>>344333685
nobody
>>344333685
Isn't the other one "nobody?"
>>344333685
no one
>>344333685
To kill Sean you need to type "No one", "Nobody".
>>344333751
>>344333758
>>344333780
ah, I tried no one but that didn't work
did anybody else feel like they fucked up and put in something you weren't supposed to know yet when you said zero's real name was delta?
Like just suddenly everyone's calling q sean and a old man stands up, i was just like what the fuck?
>>344334112
it depends why did you type in delta?
was it a guess?
or did you combine facts?
>>344334112yeah, there were some hints about the name, but I wasn't very convinced when I typed it. when everybody starts calling the kid Sean is weird, I thought nobody knew his name except him
>>344334423
I knew about the babies names, but It still felt like a guess, dispite being the old thing left for me to do
>>344334470
funnily enough no one or nothing states that his name would be q
>>344334656
In the game itself you mean.
To keep appearances and the "surprise", the little boy is called Q on the official webtsite and refference book.
>>344334584
yeah its very weird like the sigma reveal but done very bad
>hey look i was here the whole time!! durr
Here's what I don't get - Delta acts like everyone is an idiot for not wanting the Radical-6 ending. But we all played and Sigma + Phi + sort of Akane lived through VLR and based on the events of that game we know the world has gone to shit. Like, not just the same old society but with less people, like the actual apocalypse. And surely he can see the future and how garbage it is, right? So why does he act like Morphogenetic Justice League is the last resort? It's stupid but isn't it better than plunging the world into hell to kill one person?
>>344334584
You don't know shit about guessing.
I put in Delta into the Q Team shootout way back at the start of the game after getting prompted to input Q's real name and just started going through greek letters I knew after Left and Brother didn't work. I've never been so confused about anything in my life.
>>344334656
Yeah, that's only """implied""" to the player, I think that's a nice detail, but it really puts me off that they start calling him by his name only after that, as if they awlays knew it
>>344334862
yeah à mean in the game
somehow forgot to type this part
>>344334875
The Delta twist has way more put into it than the Sigma twist, though. You get maybe 4 hints across the whole game that Sigma is an old man, the Q and Delta thing has bits hidden all over the place.
>>344334875
Yeah I still say Sigma ending was better because we never actually see his face and more importantly he's never in a situation where we would expect to see his face. So it's out of nowhere (well I guess they hinted pretty heavily something was up with GOODBYE DOCTOR and all the tu fui ego eris stuff) and mind-blowing but it's not a stretch.
With the Delta reveal you just kind of have to accept that lol okay he was always JUST out of the picture in this game with lots of third person wide shot camera angles and you have to accept that somehow Carlos and Mira knew Sean's name the whole time and just never said it outright until the end
>>344334915
I got to the Team D Force Quit box and the only endings I had gotten were like, Triangle, the coinflip and Phi in the incinerator. I remembered Phi said her mom gave her the brooch so I put BROOCH for one and I remembered that Diana has the blue bird necklace from VLR so I figured her mom probably gave it to her too and she probably brought it up in that scene and I just wasn't paying close enough attention so I put in BLUE BIRD too.
>YOUR CHOICE IS MADE
>Oh fuck I fucked up
Tried to jump away but not before the giant shot of Sigma and Diana holding the twins
That's how I spoiled ZTD for myself by accessing the morphogenetic field from a timeline where Amazon fucking shipped my game on time and I was two days ahead
>>344335135
sigma reveal makes sense because you never see your face and basically you would never assume that you'd be 70 something years old because you where 20 before being abducted and you don't know shit about sigmas mind circle thing
delta however was just "hidden" from the players cam which is bs if you ask me
and i don't believe that no one would not speak, not look at or not consider someone just because they think hes blind and deaf and cant walk
>>344322064
>>344321967
You have to replay the actual vote scene again and make sure each team gets voted for twice.
So play D and C and vote Q
Play C and Q and vote D
Play D and Q and vote C
You have to play the actual vote part not just watch the scenes. They must be voted on back to back.
>>344335663
Fuck, I did exactly the same thing. They're the only two objects D-team possesses so it was so obvious they'd be the input. They should've held back the Force Quit fragments until you got D-end 2, since you need that end to get to Q-end 2 and C-end anyway for the other two Force Quits.
>>344335663
i made the connection between diana and luna very early because it was VERY obvious and also had a ending where you get to know phi's brooch so i typed in "brooch" and "birdscage" (which fitted perfectly) and clearly it was wrong
after the "official luna reveal" i tried again and found out that it was blue bird
i surely felt stupid
HE'S FAST!
>>344335756
Nah, Sigma's reveal is pretty stupid. He has no clue that his hair is way longer, can't feel the artificial eye and apparently it was assumed that he would never touch his face at any point even if he had an itch to scratch or some shit.
At least the part where Q Team would actually be talking about Delta and Sean would be giving them his name is just deliberately omitted instead of overlooked.
>>344336409
>Good Sean doesn't use his super strenght for anything else beyond lifting the Force Quit Box.
Which begs the question, how did Eric had the strenght to strangle him?
>>344336381
I'm surprised you didn't try "music box" first
>Tons of meme content of ZTD
>No lewd content despite the game being full of kink bait and potentially fucked up situations. Dilemmas, memory loss, sexy characters...
Not that I mind the laughs, but man...is it disappointing.
>>344336906
ZTD is already lewd enough by itself dude
>>344336719
He pushed eric at one point in the game
>>344336906
Honestly, the idea of a mars simulation like DCOM is the perfect setting for porn
>>344336409
>mfw Carlos turns Super Saiyan Blue and punches him through a wall
>>344336906
That's what you get when you don't have the nip audience.
>>344336643
don forget that firstly his muscle memory probably is used to the body, secondly they had some hard drugs and thirdly dey are infected with a mind slowing virus
oh and also they had more important stuff to care about most of the time
>>344336906
>roofies in everyone's bracelets
>wake up 90 minutes later with inexplicable asspain
>>344336906
Series is dead as a doornail in Japan, and do you really want Western artists drawing stupid shit in pencil crayon with awful """""sexy""""" dialogue?
>>344336906
>wanting porn of generic looking characters with no quality or special characteristic
>Everyone complaining about how rushed and unsatisfying the ending feels since it's basically just Delta talking at you
>Very obviously due to budget constraints
>Leaves off unfinished business with the series
ZERO ESCAPE MOVIE: THE END OF ZERO ESCAPE WHEN
>>344336975
Hah, too bad none of it is even meant to be lewd...
>>344337219
I'm talking about dirty fics, too--even ones that're just a few lines long and just posted on 4chan.
>>344335663
does it matter though on which way learn about the twins?
on second thought though it completely ruins the buildup of sigmas and dianas time together after the game has ended
that moment when he said phi blew me away
>>344336719
He also uses it to break Mira out of prison.
He probably wasn't even aware he was that strong until he realized he was a robot.
>>344337146
Nice try. Nothing he was injected with has any impact on these very simple observations. Muscle memory doesn't magically make you incapable of noticing something that foreign. And, finally, there's more than enough time Sigma spends fucking around in the early game. The twist was not meant to be thought about very hard.
>>344337498
I want this.
>>344337498>999: Your girlfriend is Zero
>VLR: You are Zero
>ZTD: The player is Zero
>ZE4: Uchikoshi is Zero???
>>344337807
so you are saying that delta reveal surprised you more than sigma reveal?
sigma reveal and everything that is connected to it is like the whole point of vlr
>>344338165
i wonder who that zero is that forces me to play that one shitty decision game called "Life"...
god i hate that guy
I wanna cosplay as Diana and suck off everyone in this thread
>>344338684
Diana's ex spottedseriously don't or else she will spread AIDS too
>>344338165
Incidentally if you follow the pattern,0+ 0 + 0 =the amount of money that this game made
It's really funny how y'all randos in the Zero Escape community suddenly decided to alienate me simply because of my fanart of Sigma and Phi kissing. Fuck everyone in this "community", if you can even call it that. I'm done associating with anything Zero Escape related and I won't be writing any more fanfics or fanart. Sorry to those who still care, but blame Ashléä and her clique that keeps harassing me on the Zero Escape IRC channel. I will be giving admin privileges of my facebook and twitter Zero Escape RP accounts only to Narcy, who was the only one that stood up for me while everybody else slandered me. Goodbye forever.
- @cumwitches69
>>344338257
>so you are saying that delta reveal surprised you more than sigma reveal?
This is about whether or not Sigma's twist made sense (which it doesn't), but yeah, it did. There are plenty of things about the Delta reveal that I didn't like (mainly how quickly what it amounted to was over in like 10 minutes because the game didn't get finished), but it was definitely better than Sigma's and pretty much all the attention to detail in the entirety of ZTD was devoted to it.
>sigma reveal and everything that is connected to it is like the whole point of vlr
Ok? Delta is just as important to ZTD as Sigma being an old guy was to VLR.
>>344339078
What?
>>344338257
Just ignore him
THIS GAME SUCKS AND IT RUINED THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE FOR ME
I WILL NEVER ENJOY VIDEO GAMES AGAIN
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
THIS GAME IS PERFECT AND EVERYONE THAT DISAGREE IS A SHITPOSTER
THE BEST GAME EVER MADE
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>344339317
>Whenever Kyle's not on screen, everybody should be asking, "Where's Kyle?"
>>344339339
kek
>>344339870
Can you explain that Kyle hype (or meme) to me?
I don't really get it.
Hes' just is Sigma raised by Sigma and his purpose is to be a placeholder in case Akane doesn't die, right?
>>344340221
100% ending of VLR has Akane stating that Kyle is necessary for the Dcom infiltration to work.
>>344340221
The entire post-credits epilogue in VLR was about how Kyle and [?] were also going back to the Mars test site, and their presence was necessary to achieve the desired result. Neither gets mentioned again (nor do Alice and Clover), so End Or Beginning 2 might as well be completely noncanon.
>>344334112
I guessed force D team box before I should have. Closed my eyes and left the fragment
>>344340221
Maybe you should actually play the previous games before shitposting instead of reading the wiki articles
>>344340221
In VLR true ending Kyle and ? (someone from D-Com) swapped places,
Any hot girls ITT wanna meet up? I'm a gentle giant and love spending time with women I'll treat you like a princess Diana
>I love you.
what was phi even doing was she trying to bang diana
>>344340538
Do you have a pet snail? This is important.
>>344316776
Mira is confirmed for virgin.
I want Zero Escape reboot with Carlos.
Throw his sister too.
>>344340518
well sorry that i dont recall every single word from one sequence of the game i played 4 years ago
>>344340654
Well, we know there was a Phi somewhere that knew Sigma and Diana were her parents thanks to the force quit scene. Maybe that was her for some reason. Or maybe, yeah, she wanted to fuck her after they shared that hug.
>>344340435
>Did the same thing
>About to NOPE out and quit the fragment
>No, hang on a sec. If I wasn't meant to see this yet, surely it wouldn't have been possible to unlock this early. I doubt this'll spoil me, in that case. I'll keep watching.
>mfw five minutes later
>>344340850
>>344340850
>ZTD is better than VLR and does everything better!
>but I don't remeber anything about VLR by the way
>>344341172
>inb4 it's carlos' sister
In VLR Sigma says that sometimes when he picked betray his hand moved on his own.
So what, now in retrospective manner, Delta mindhaxored him across the galaxy?
>>344341172
I don't get it
What would you even use the skin for
>>344341417
Delta was ?
>>344341435
To use it on someone else's mouth.
>>344341417
he probably was there the whole time but he was """"hidden""""
>>344341417
I guess it just means ? had mindhax. I guess that would have interesting implications in that you can mindhack even without a body, just with your consciousness floating in the morphogenetic field - but since ? might as well be noncanon now it's not really worth thinking about. Just chalk it down to Sigma's finger slipping.
>>344341417
That only makes sense in VLR when you consider "?" i.e. the player is the "x-factor" at play.
I completely expected "?" to be the explanation for all the for the phenomenon in ZTD as well. But nope, MINDHACKS.
>>344341172
This whole series of gifs genuinely make me question the sanity of their creator.
>>344341417
A lot of plotholes could've been patched if Delta could tap into morphogenetic field and just look into all timelines with super limited interference as his ability.
Enough to make Sigma's finger go right instead of keft.
>>344341417
i guess misperception because he isn't used to his "new" body
Why Mind Hack?
Why is it such dumb and simple name?
Why not Morphogenetic Control?
Why not STRING?
delete these threads
delete the game
delete the series
move on
>>344342168
fuck off
>>344342168
YOU SHUT UP /v/ is dead this is the only non plebbit community on here
>>344342159
Uchikoshi is obsessed with hacks because he is one
>>344342159
I could explain, but it would be too complex to you
>okay, Sigma. We're here at Dcom. Remember that Radical-6 broke from here and it was Brother's fault. We also know that he's a really old man
>Alright, keep you eyes open for suspicious characters. Hmm...
>a young firefighter, Akane, young Tenmyouji, A young man, a young woman and Diana...
>and a blind guy who is also deaf and old as fuck. Hmm, nope. Everything seems normal here.
>>344342168
just shift into a history in which this series was never created ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>344342159
Consider the new stupid American audience that doesn't like to read that ZTD was written for. It's a wonder we got any acronyms or words with more than six letters in them at all. Life is simply unfair.
>>344341172
I know this is a fetish thing but imagine how fucking terrifying it would be if there was a decision where someone was strapped to a table with a laser about to cut them in half and you had to choose before it
>>344342159
because the other names aren't good memes, I guess
>>344342338
>the young firefighter kills 6 billion people for friendship
>the old man saves the world
>>344339317
>>344340221
>>344340525
>Kyle is Poochie
>Poochie is a dog
>Kyle swapped places with someone from D-Com
Confirmed. Kyle is Gab
>>344342338
Also I would like to add that Carlos FUCKING FINDS Q'S GLASSES AND WEARS THEM WHICH ALLOW HIM TO SEE OTHER "WARDS".
"Oh hey Q...bro...those glasses."
>>344342574
>the young firefighter kills 6 billion people for friendship
More like he never thought about saving the world in the first place. And it's Diana 's fault.
>>344342585
>Kyle is Gab
I know this is a joke but I've seen people saying it seriously and I want to remind you if Kyle is Gab then you also have to explain how Gab's consciousness knew how to speak perfect English when it was in Kyle's body
Here is my tweest.
>Zero plan is to save Left in the past
>Kyle manages to go back 20 years and save Left
>sudden jump to present
>game is now in first person with novel inner thoughts parts as Carlos
>turns out we were Left trapped in morphogenetic field who was overseeing the game and forcing people to go through all choices
>>344342595
Wait what?
>>344342762
Yeah Carlos had no fuckin idea Radical-6 was going to end the world and if he stopped Zero's plan then Akane and Junpei would have just gone wherever the transporter did and probably would have been fucked
Whereas Diana knows for a fact that if she doesn't leave behind Phi, a woman for whom death is essentially meaningless, then she will single-handedly bring about the apocalypse and kill 75 percent of humanity and she does it anyway because "muh friendship" or whatever
Diana might be the dumbest person in that shelter honestly not even Mira was more directly responsible for the Radical-6 pandemic than her
>>344342946
Monty Hall puzzle roomw ith Gas Mask decision.
Carlos literally wears Q's glasses.
I actually thought Kyle was Zero and it was yet another ruse by Akane.
>>344343232
Akane yet again would've been pretty boring. Delta was good up until they ran out of money to write content for him with like halfway through.
Do you guys think we'll get a questionnaire for this game like the last two?
>>344342762
>>344343090
if diana wouldn't have done this, the events of vlr would never have happened which leads to old sigma not having transferred to the past which leads to a totally differrent setup for ztd
but at the same time radical six woudn't have spread
but i think a lot more depends on this but at the moment i'm a little overwhelmed by thinking about that
>>344343656
>"Where is Kyle you baka nipponese?
"Life is unfair."
>>344343712
Sigma being there was just to fuck Diana, nothing else.
From "escape the shelter" perspective he could've been a random schmuck from the street.
>>344343090
Agreed. Beyond that, I thought that whole thing was just Uchi needing a cheap way of saving Akane and Junpei in that timeline. What Carlos did was just an easy way of doing it with as little exposition/budget used as possible.
In another timeline, it's a given that Carlos did try to stop Zero. It's just that this is irrelevant to VLR.
>>344343929
are you sure?
the game points out that one tiny change can have massive changes often enough
>>344343712
What's stopping Delta from releasing R6?
He doesn't even need to be alive to do that. Just order for to release the virus if they don't hear from him.
That way he gets to save 75% of the timelines even if the retards fail to git gud at shifting.
>>344336409
ORE NO KACHI DA
>>344320413
Play the game anon then ask stupid questions.
>>344344160
my current problem with that ending is just that i feels so forced. like that akane had to do the the nonary game to save her own life. if that reality wouldn't exist then vlr would never happen because the goal of vlr was to send sigma and phi back to past where they than infiltrated the dcom project its like an unbreakable paradoxon circle. oh and the same counts for phis brooch i guess where did it come from? phi gets it from diana shortly before she was sent and siana gets it after phi dies
god its so confusing
>>344340538
Do you look like Carlos or Sigma? I only like big guys
>VLR Clover and Alice implied to transport a copy back to the past
>True End Clover and Alice are probably unfrozen
>There are two Clovers in the new timeline
Who wins?
>>344344961
I look likeDelta
>>344344951
i should read my stuff before i send it. sorry
>>344319689
So wait, do we know the total number of sales across all platforms? Do we have numbers?
Will this fill the void after finishing ZTD? Is it worth $40?
Pls no spoil
>>344345021
She could be sent back to the VLR timeline.
>>344345021
>2 Alices
No one wins
>>344344160
Why does it have to even start from within the shelter? Why does he need to jump through all these hoops when he could just spray it at a FtS gathering and they would probably all be 100 percent down with it
Why doesn't he use the quantum supercomputer that can literally let Sean use its position in spacetime to SHIFT in order to find the one person who triggers the end of the world in apparently enough timelines that it becomes a problem worth killing almost all of humanity for?
Why do he and Akane try so hard to create a stable time loop to the point that he literally starts the Decision Game just so he can be born when it seems to be obvious that outside of 999 time paradoxes mean fuck-all in this franchise?
>>344345021
Definitely not anyone working under Alice (poor SOIS). Imagine her bitching in stereo.
>>344321479
Well something was done to a similar degree in VLR during Luna's route.
>>344345110
Are you a weeb? And I don't mean someone who watches anime.
That's kinda a requirement to enjoy DR.
just finished it. I really liked. It wasn't overly ambitious, and delivered on everything it promised. Delta's motivations werecomplexbut I didn't think they were any dumber than the Zeros in 999 and VLR. The ending scene was fucking fantastic and a great way to close the game.
>>344321779
Well you know
There are actually 2 theories about that
One, as you said every single action make an alternative timeline and in the past millisecond there were infinite timelines created.
The other one is that only major choices create different timelines, so when say, you decided to play this game today or not, or if you decided to eat a sandwich or a pizza not minor things like whenever your hand moved 1 cm or 1.000000000000000001cm to the left
The game assumes the 2nd one.
>>344345110
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>>344345110
40 bucks for both of them is just about fair, I'd say.
It's very hit-and-miss, though.
Maybe download the PSP version of DR1 first to give it a try, see if you like it.
>>344342338
Delta uses his mind hack powers to make it so people can't see him. People only notice him when Q/Sean points him out because Delta can't mind hack a robot.
>>344345351
>The ending scene was fucking fantastic and a great way to close the game.
Finally someone with taste.
>>344325750
That picture was more of a meme than anything.
>>344345110
Persona 4 style meets Ace Attorney the Visual Novel
Can we have a ZE4 aboutterrorists that are actually aliens from another dimension?
>>344320742
Easily the reveal thatSean was not Q
Despite the fact that I should've REALLY sensed something was amiss during theWho Killed Miradecision, becauseputting in Q resulted in Eric saying "that doesn't make any fucking sense", and putting in Sean had him say "I knew it was you.
The actual reveal hit me like a ton of bricks. Especially since this is the first ZE game that I didn't get spoiled on at all.
Is Professor Layton actually good? I need something to fill the void
>>344345110
No. Play Steins;Gate instead.
>>344345687
If you like Bullshit puzzles, yeah.
Layton has shit like "You have a red ball and a blue ball twice it's size. If you drop them both at exactly the same time, what is the probability that the person's name dropping the ball is Timothy?"
And you enter a percentage and the game says that the answer is0% because Timothy didn't actually drop the ball, he just rolled it off of a countertop so gravity actually dropped the ball, not Timothy.
God damn.
>>344345110
Haha, time for DESPAIR
Only played 1 on PSP, but had a blast.
>>344345941
what the fuck kek, that just sounds infuriating
>>344345687
Layton's fun, but most of the puzzles have no context or reason to be in the story. It is literally just characters coming to you, or you going to characters, and them saying "SOLVE THIS PUZZLE TO PROGRESS"
>>344345021
Since transport copies seem to be considered iterations of the same person, could they communicate in the same way that Akane does with her alternate future self? Would there be a morphogenetic advantage to having two agents who are the same person?
>>344345941
Brb murdering some people and blaming it on gravity.
>>344345687
A lot of its puzzles are of the "didn't give all the information" variety.
>This block of ice is 10cm thick.
>Your lighter produces a 3cm large flame that burns at 300 degrees celsius
>How long would it take you to get to center of the ice?
>Just a few seconds, since you can just break the ice throwing it the ground!
That kinda stuff, but obviously done a lot more gracefully.
They can be alright timewasters, but that's all they are.
there was a really good meme picture somebody did, it was an edit of that "back the fuck off?!?" picture, does anyone have that
I thought I noticed that the songs that play during C-Team's sections are mostly all from 999, and likewise with D-Team's sections with VLR.
Can anyone confirm?
>>344346375
This one?
>>344345941
This anon is just making shit up, PL has great puzzles, 99% of them are top tier, none have bullshit in them
here's a fun great one
>>344321731
Well he's Brother so it was probably part of his plan.
>>344346650
i'm in tears
>>344346545
I'm not sure about general music, but I'm like 90% sure that any sad moments for C-Team are a variation of Morphogenetic Sorrow, and sad moments for D-Team are almost always Blue Bird Lamentation.
>>344346651
F-fuck you.
I wouldn't touch that with a 10ft pole.
>>344346651
How the fuck do I solve this?
>>344347047you put the corks in his nose
>>344345110
I really want to play these but only have a shitty laptop right now and now vita. Life is unfair, isn't it?
So basically the "Apocalypse" ending is the whole reason vlr happened?
somehow this would close the circle
but the initial dcom project had to happen without sigma and phi due to phi and sigma only being able to participate "after" vlr happened right? they planned to jump back and wanted to infiltrade the project. But this doesn't make sense considering phi and sigma being essential parts of the said ending.
Explanation would be appreciated.
>>344347047
I'll give you a hint. All three holes at the top lead to garlic.
>>344345519
>Can't mind hack a robot
Yes he could, just not with his powers. It's a robot bro, that shit is hackable.
>>344346650
Holy shit it's been a while since I've read that. Thanks for the classic laughs.
>>344347209
How would that stop them from stinking up the room?
>>344347047
you shift to the timeline where the people enjoys the smell of garlic
>>344347225
You must be new to this series. Time paradoxes don't mean shit.
>>344347225
There would also be an universe where akane died, one where phi and delta were never born and so the AB game would've never happened
LIFE WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IN THIS UNIVERSE
>>344345687
Yes, but if you had problem with the ZE puzzles avoid it.
Layton is actually for smart people
>>344347225
The ending where you don't push the button would probably also lead to radical-6 being released. Same with the ending where Diana tries to deactivate the bomb instead of Sigma.
The lack of Phi porn angers me.
>>344347225
There's never a timeline where Sigma and Phi aren't inserted into Dcom.
Even though the Apocalypse/VLR future is only one of many possible futures, Sigma and Phi from the end of VLR will always shift into their bodies in 2028, before the Dcom project begins.
>>344347209
Are you serious?
I'm surprised with all the Kyle this and ? talk I was under the impression the secret ending of VLR was just that, a secret ending just to get you thinking and not actually "canon".
>>344347367
>Use the two corks below to help our friend deal with the smell.
>>344345110
I tried playing danganronpa 2
Literary over an hour of gameplay NOTHING happened then i dropped it.
Its too boring and long prologues are not a good idea...
>>344347620
I kind of wish I never even knew about the secret ending so I'd be less disappointed by ZTD.
On the other hand, Tenmyouji's biker story.
>>344347493
To be fair Layton has more trick question type of riddles which is just annoying to me personally.
>>344347791
Did you start with 2?
>>344345110
Are you fine with anime tropes? If yes then you'll be okay. If no then maybe not. 2 is much better than 1, but is also made better by first playing 1.
>>344347584
oh that means that as long vlr exists as a possible future, sigma and phi would always participate in dcom as a result of the AB game's success.
>>344348114
Yes it's just like how Delta and Phi exist in all timelines despite only being born in one.
>>344347805
Tenmyouji's epilogue still gives me intense feels
>"The Akane I know, isn't here. She isn't anywhere."
C-End could have been great source of feels too if Carlos wasn't being a fucking memelord.
>>344340758
he fucked her after Payoff to cure her psycho
>>344347597
Welcome to Layton.Care to guess the answer?
>>344345110
Zero Escape did a good job filling my DR void, though I think I like ZE better now.
if you like whodunnits and can deal with anime shit you'll probably like it. 2 is better but it's better to play 1 first for a variety of reasons.
>>344346651
>none have bullshit in them
>>344347209
>you put the corks in his nose
>>344347684
>choke him with the corks
Now he won't care about the bad smell. You are welcome, friend :^)
>>344347212
I played both of them on my lenovo T420 and they ran just fine.
Is there any evidence to suggest a radical6 outbreak in any timeline other than VLR?
Delta doesn't seem like the kind of guy to waste his time like that. I mean, I know he can't shift, but he doesn't actually seem to give a shit about anything other than achieving the true end in ZTD.
>>344348381
Is this a real question, with an actual answer?
>>344348381
The answer is the background!
>>344348424
>DR void
Aren't there tons of animus with badly written villains?
>>344348546
Mira walks out of the shelter infected with radical 6
>>344347597
Layton is more about riddles than puzzles
>>344348546
No evidence, it's just interpretation as to whether Delta would release it to save the people of that timeline or doesn't give a fuck.
>>344348546
Is there any evidence the terrorist attack is real and Delta wasn't making shit up?
>>344348381
If this is a real puzzle, my caveman mind demands the answer.
>>344348345
>post-story Junpei & Akane (2)
>"When I think about what a bitter old man I'd have become if I had to keep looking for you for the rest of my life..."
I know popular opinion is that Akane is a sociopath, but I'm of the opinion that only really happens circa VLR. I'm really glad that they got a happy ending. I'm less glad Sigma, Phi, and Diana got nothing, especially since that'd be the most interesting post-story to read: would Old Sigma give his young body back? What about Phi? Do they live together as a family?
>>344348857
Because then there wouldn't be a point to anything that happened.
>>344338165ZTD: The player is Zero
OH, that makes much more sense now. I was wondering where the old man came from.
>>344348546
FBR is clearly made up and in the timeline where you don't have D team hit the button Mira escapes after she injects herself with the virus, so that timeline's clearly toast.
Also, The bad ending you get where Diana goes into the decontamination room instead of Sigma is basically not any different at all from Mira's perspective, so she'd probably still inject someone. Maybe if Sigma wasn't incapacitated and Diana wasn't around they could have decided to kill and burn Phi, but maybe not.
>>344348563
Yes, it's an actual puzzle. >>344348581 is right. "Out" of the houses, meaning not 'including' the houses.
Most of the puzzles in Layton are actually straight logic puzzles but the game occasionally throws curveballs like that just to keep you on your toes and make sure you're thinking critically about each puzzle instead of trying to reduce each one to a math problem. Pic related is an example of a 'real' one.
>>344349013
>develop virus to stop the terrorist
>don't use it
What's the point?
>>344348857
BECAUSE
>>344348114
>>344348205
oh and also this once again proves the phrase of vlr that the future changes the past
>Yes it's just like how Delta and Phi exist in all timelines despite only being born in one.
well through the teleporter its understandable
also vlr HAS to happen otherwise ztd is impossible but in the timeline of sigmas consciousness the order of events is either way vlr and then ztd which is kinda hard if to follow this path considering hid consciousness is jumping around like crazy
>hi im Sigma your future is my past
>>344349008
>would Old Sigma give his young body back?
There's nobody to give his body back to. Young Sigma exists in the VLR timeline to grow up into Old Sigma, who then splits into a bunch of different possibilities, only VLR Old Sigma has to worry about swapping places with Young Sigma.
>>344349013
well in VLR he had other motives to release it but then in ZTD it was to stop the terrorist and everyone accept that bit of information as granted
>>344349047
>Fanatic Bio R
>mfw one anon saidit's an anagram for FaBRication
>mfw another anon pointed outthe difference in survival for Q-Team between FBR and R6 is the difference in survival between R6 and the Fanatic's Nuclear War
>>344348662
Sure, but ZTD has one of the worst of all.
>>344349192
he used it to lure everyone he needed into dcom to make sure they would be determined to hinder the terrorists
the one or the other was plan B
Are Phi and Dio siblings now?
>>344349631
Nope.Phi and Brother/Delta are siblings, Left is Brother's step/adoptive sibling
>>344349631
They always were.
So did everyone just forget thatMira is a horrible serial killerin the true ending?
I just thought about something
If there are at least two carlos in each timeline
And the one who waited for 10 months dosen't know what's happening in the bunker
Then why the fuck didn't he come back in the stranded pair ending to save diana and sigma
>>344349948
Read the epilogue files
>>344349554
He could have used nukes just fine.
I'm not even sure R6 managed to stop the fanatic in the VLR timeline. Dealing with R6 was more important than WW3.
>>344350034
Oh shit.
>>344349957
Delta needed to be born so he had a Sean ready to stop him.
>>344350135
well by eradicating 75% of the people he also got the fanatic he tradet 8 billion for 6 billion
>>344350034
where can i read them?
>>344350427
Load your save, open any fragment and go to files, it's under the cinema tab or whatever the one that isn't quest is called
>>344350340
Allegedly
Thread is about to be dead.
>>344350340
Yeah, but he could've nuked 75% of the world and avoid developing R6.i think Delta was avoiding fucking up the earth, but the earth was a mess in the VLR timeline.
>>344350550
It's simple, anon.
Brother simplyplayed the Decision Game
Zero Escape 4 should be set in 1904 and be about the events surroundingGerman Researchers sending baby Phi in to the future.
>>344350645
yeah because mankind tried to cleanse radical-6 by blowing up all reactors in the world
>>344350593
When next you wake, know that you will have no memories of these past five hundred posts.
Pleasant dreams.
Hey, if I commit suicide can I SHIFT to myself before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me so I can SHIFT to myself again before the bullet hits me?
>>344350780
Not exactly. The people running nuclear reactors became infected with Radical-6 and proceeded to commit suicide in the most spectacular way possible.
>>344329296
And then they fucked.
>>344350935
It makes you suicidal, not edgy.
>>344350735
>Send babby to future?
TIME TO DECIDE
>Send babby
>>344320742
This: >>344331174
I figured out Zero's identity and typed it in at the stand-off first. Sean turns around and my mind was blown.
Unfortunately nothing was even close to the level of mindfuck that was VLR.
>>344350135
the terrorist attack still happen in the VLR timeline: the destruction of the reactors.
the difference is that society already collapsed because of Radical-6 so no nuclear war follows
>>344350780
Was that mentioned in VLR? I don't remember.
It sounds like a pretty dumb idea tho.
>>344351043
I'm not saying it would be a terribly complicated game.
>>344351152
Wichita means that the fanatic didn't get infected and committed Sudoku. Seems like R6 is able to save the world one way or another.
>>344351161
i think something like this can be seen in the tv of the end or beginning scene
>>344350865
>know that you will have no memories
I don't need your help
