OK /v/ here's the thing.
I was a pc gamer for a long time before I switched to ps3 then ps4 because of lack of money from having to upgrade the fucking pc everytime.
Last I ever had a pc was when I played tf2 and really miss that game. U also played tf classic. The stopped pc right around the time when they gave the sniper a bow and arrow update. I remember counter strike 1.6 too.
Lonf story short, after like 8 years, I got pc again. I still love my ps4 to death and will play games on it, I just want to get into the PC scene to play games like civilization, tf2 which I miss
Some questions
1. How much would it cost to build a pc that runs smooth on modern games? Like ultra high settings or some shit.
2. How often should I update the graphics card and stuff now days?
3. Amd or Intel (Intel was the shit back in my day)
4. What did I miss from tf2 ever since it came out? All I remember is that map with the hot air balloon, and the sniper getting the bow and arrow update
5. Do people still play cs 1.6 zombies? Does GO have zombies?
6. Any other advice would help. Looking to build something.
Sorry for typos. And I meant after 8 years I want to get into pc again*not that I got pc.
>>344279514
This build is overkill for 100% maxed 1080p. It's probably around or under $800USD not including peripherals.
>>344279663
Thanks man, and like, how long would that machine last me before upgrading anything in this modern day of gaming? 3 years?
Also anyone who can answer other questions appreciated
>>344279859
>3 years
Please. It'll be quite some time before I need to upgrade. You're in trouble when you can't manage 60fps with the settings pegged and this build manages 120fps avg in DOOM with everything turned on.
Any "upgrades" made before 8 years or so would be unnecessary and would be purely from being bored with same hardware.
>>344279514
1. Ultra high? You need 1k for that. Though you can get along fine on a mix of ultra/high at 800 bucks
2. Depends. You should be fine for a while. It takes 4+ years before you'll likely have to deal with 30-40 fps on high. If you keep dropping down settings, you can still hit 50-60 even on low. If you're ok with 30 fps you're card can last quite a while. I mean you get sub 10 and sub 20 fps on the consoles and seeing as you come from them, I think you can handle that.
3. Intel cpus are still better. Amd has zen cpus upcoming which may or may not be worth it.
4. I dropped it a while back. It was still fun buy I played it for years and had to move on.
5. CS 1.6 will never die bar society collapses. Go has zombies too.
6. People will spaz out between AMD vs Nvidia video cards. Particularly nvidia fanboys.
Though as it stands there are new cards releasing. On Nvidia's side the only thing you should get is either a 1070 or a 1060. So far amd has the rx 480 out which will fight the 1060. No benchmarks on the 1060 so we don't know how that will go. 480 is 240 bucks, 1060 will be 300 for a while until price drops to 250 and the 1070 is currently 400+ bucks because scalpers and because nvidia did some stupid founders edition shit.
The rx 490 is no where to be seen for now but there are rumors that it will have HBM2 memory as vram. Which imo is worth waiting for. But that's a while off. Maybe late this year or Q1 2017. If you want something more powerful than a 480/1060 then the 1070 is the one to get for now.
>>344279514
>I switched to ps3 then ps4 because of lack of money from having to upgrade the fucking pc everytime
Except a better-than-consoles PC is cheaper now.
This plays W3 and GTA V around Ultra at 30 FPS and 50 FPS respectively, and WIndows 7 can be infinitely re-set to be free by deleting a file.
https://youtu.be/LK5SaoWsEYs
https://youtu.be/ECxgUTTMdFs
>>344279514
>I switched to ps3 then ps4 because of lack of money from having to upgrade the fucking pc everytime.
you're either a b8, or a moron.
Unless you're an ADHD "MUST HAVE NEWEST SHIT, ALWAYS!!!" moron, a well built PC should last AT LEAST half a decade.
>1. How much would it cost to build a pc that runs smooth on modern games?
Depends on your intended resolution and framerate. 1080p/60hz is piss easy with ~500 bucks these days, but 1440p/144hz is a lot more demanding. But even then, 1000 bucks is like the top I'd pay. People have been doing these crazy "PS4 killer" builds for less than 400 bucks already.
>2. How often should I update the graphics card and stuff now days?
I've been running this PC (i5 2500 + 8GB + GTX 560ti 1GB + W7 Ultimate) since 2011, and have no problems running ANYTHING smoothly at 1920x1200. Every time I've considered upgrading, I've been surprised how well even new titles run. I may consider dat GTX 1060 though.
tl;dr: 5 years minimum.
>3. Amd or Intel (Intel was the shit back in my day)
Intel. Say what you say about AMD's GPUs, but their CPUs suck ass. Period.
>4. What did I miss from tf2 ever since it came out?
It became free to play hat simulator.
>5. Do people still play cs 1.6 zombies? Does GO have zombies?
Yes. Dunno about GO, but I doubt it. It's a skin-collectathon.
>6. Any other advice would help. Looking to build something.
i5 + matching mobo of its model + 8GB RAM minimum + mid tier Nvidia.
Go to: Logicalincrements.com
Or Youtube "(your budget)$ gaming PC build 2016".
>>344280413
This entire post is bait.
>>344279514
>had no money
>bought overpriced consoles, with overpriced games, and paid online
What in the living fuck??
Also, I'd probably still be running my 2007-built Core2duo + 8800GT machine, had the summer heat waves not melted something in it few years back. I still know people playing with that era's components. Consoles have greatly held back the evolution of graphics and system requirements.
>>344280552
>People have been doing these crazy "PS4 killer" builds for less than 400 bucks already.
Yeah, here's one of the latest I got saved up.
Every extra 100 bux is an improvement though.
>>344280780
Point out the bait then.
>>344280823
>AMD processor
>no dedicated GPU
ANON NO
>>344280151
>120fps avg in DOOM with everything turned on.
Really, I was afraid 8gb RAM wouldn`t really cut it anymore.
>>344280875
He already did. The entire post is ignorant.
>>344281035
This entire post is bait.
>>344280964
>no dedicated GPU
>GTX 750ti 2GB
you blind or something?
1200 for a pc that would run most things on ultra (minus stuff like Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, GTA 5, Hitman)
$2000 for the top end that will last you 3 or 4 years before you need to upgrade the gpu and cpu if you want to play those years AAA games on ultra.
700-800 if you just want to play any game you want.
>>344280989
I don't think you understand what system RAM is for.
VRAM though, there's 6gb on the 980ti. More than enough for any game on the market right now to operate at 1080p.
>>344281240
1060 is already shown to be stronger than 980, has 6GB RAM, runs cooler and with less power, and is gonna be only 250 bucks.
>>344280875
>ultra high, you need $1k for that
literally retarded. A post already made in the same thread shows that a sub $800 build will run any game completely maxed well over 60fps. TW3 with everything turned on, hairworks and all, at 80fps avg.
>after 3 years, GPUs magically drop to 30fps
Just fuck off.
>telling people to buy mid range cards "because they just released"
Nigger reasoning tb,h
>HBM2 is worth waiting for
for what fucking reason
>>344280823
Dude the fuck? Why pay $100 for for such an old card??? Fuck just step it up and get a 480 or 1060 that 750 it will be obsolete in no time.
>>344280823
>>344280964
The actual problem is no storage. Complete (and better GPU) version here: >>344280507
>>344281119
OP here not bait, fuck off faggot.
For everyone else, thanks for the replies.
>>344281443
>only 250 bucks.
That`s what they said about the rx480
>>344281443
1stly, 980ti is not a 980
2ndly, x60 is not stronger than a x80. Learn to real Nvidia (and Radeon, whil you're at it) model codes. x60 would have less than half the compute cores of a x80
3rdly 6gb is actually the same thing as 6gb, believe it or not.
Less power is fine, I guess. Especially if you didn't get a decent PSU. And $250 is a great price, especially for a new nvidia release, even if it is just a budget card.
>>344280823
>750Ti
Oh, so you made a Netflix box. Neat. Too bad you won't be able to play too many games with it.
>>344281812
>x60 is not stronger than a x80. Learn to real Nvidia
Feeling special posting stereotyped bullshit?
>>344281649
>Why pay $100 for for such an old card???
because it's cheap and super low power, as in does not use those 6-pin power connectors at all.
Yet it is strong enough to get ~35 average in GTAV on "Very High" presets, when coupled with mere i3 and 4GB RAM.
At the moment though, the GTX 950 would be the smarter choice, being the sort-of spiritual successor to 750ti, some models similarly not using external power connectors, and providing a good 30% increase in performance.
>>344281726
The Nvidia's first 1060 is shipping at 299$, and the versions of other manufacturers will be around 249$.
>>344281812
I'm well aware of all that. Way to fail at reading comprehension / wanting to throw a fit just for the heck of it.
>>344281876
yeah, except fucking EVERYTHING.
>>344281523
Here is the game running on ultra with hair works on a 960:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pyk2pZRqbU
30fps
Here it is on the 750 ti getting sub 30 fps
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qjh5x4WjAk
Are you guys fucking retarded?
>>344281941
the 1060 isn't out yet, we have no idea if it'll actually be on the level of the 980 or not.
Remember how everyone was fellating the 480 and how it was going to be the 1070 killer for $200? Remember how that actually turned out? Yeah.
>>344281941
>Founders edition will cost 300 dollars
Its over.
Aftermarket versions will start at 330 and MSRP won't mean shit.
Pack it up boys.
>>344282023
>yeah, except fucking EVERYTHING.
well yeah, on low, sure. But if you're going to play on low settings, why even bother building a PC?
>>344282027
>specifically picking TW3 and turning on gameworks features using budget cards in order to prove your point
80-90fps on 980ti, chump
>>344282063
Except no source actually stated that the 480 would be better than the 1070 because they're not out yet.
Nvidia, within its own company, is stating that it's better than the 980. Checkmate.
>>344282174
Because nvidia would never overhype their own hardware, right? Right?
>>344282132
>well yeah, on low, sure.
GTA5 runs just fine most things on High at 1080p.
Witcher 3 gets > 30fps average on Normal.
Besides those two examples, just about no other game should provide much challenge. Hell, I'm still running that 1GB GTX 560ti, and have no problems getting 60fps at 1920x1200 with med-high combo settings.
>>344282257
>30fps
so again, why build a PC? If you're getting console performance out of your PC, then why even bother?
>>344279514
>lack of money from having to upgrade the fucking pc everytime.
My builds have lasted my on average 4 years each for the past 15. I salvage what I can from the previous build and dump $1000 or so in upgrades. Thats $250 saved a year. Hardly a large amount.
>>344282132
dude a 750ti will play Fallout 4 on high no problem
>>344281523
3 years? I said 4+ you retard. If you keep trying to run games after 4 years on high, they will drop to 30-40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJHeaNpJdnI
This is a 670 which came out in 2012. It's running witcher 3, a 2015 at 30-40 high for the most part.
>mid-range
I don't know his fucking budget. I was listing options. Did you miss the 1070 suggestion you imbecile?
>for what fucking reason
Insurance. More vram is not a bad thing. Devs don't know how to manage shit and we're already hitting 8 gb on some 1080p games like tomb raider and mirror edge. Again that was just an opinion.
>literally retarded. A post already made in the same thread shows that a sub $800 build will run any game completely maxed well over 60fps. TW3 with everything turned on, hairworks and all, at 80fps avg.
Didn't you just say mid range is nigger reasoning? Buying old tech is also nigger reasoning. show me what video card that 800 build is using.
>>344282310
>If you're getting console performance out of your PC, then why even bother?
because its not a console
>>344282407
but at what frame rate? My 980 chugs down to the 40s at times, I can't even imagine what happens on a 750ti
>>344281941
Dude, you can say whatever you want before something releases. AMD does it all the time. Yeah you got great scores but under what conditions?
Look at the specs for the 1060. Half the CUDA cores of a 980 and also has a smaller VRAM bus yet it can totally outperform one! Yeah, ok.
>>344282487
but it is. It runs games the same as consoles. It's a console.
>>344282472
>behold how this low-end model from 4 generations ago gets 30fps in TW3 maxed!
Just stop.
>>344282506
around 30 on high, better on medium
basically console performance
>My 980 chugs down to the 40s at times
how
my 7870 runs it at 60 without mods
>>344282520
That has a 25% better clock rate than a 980.
>>344282161
Didn't see your post with the 980ti. Kinda hard to see who is who in the thread. Still the 980 ti may be more expensive than OP is looking for. I'd recommend a 480 and get a newer processor. Might as get a 1070 if your willing to shell out for the 980 ti which is slightly better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EzoNeRiY5I0
>>344282612
>It runs games the same as consoles
but it's also a PC, which means you can also do everything a PC can do without having to deal with the bullshit that is modern console gaming
>>344282506
How?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM1N1N1_H_I
This guy manages 60-120fps on ultra with a regular 980.
This is what you would be looking at for a basic pc build for the current gen.
>>344282520
DELETE
>>344282859
dunno. I have an i7 4790k running at 4.2ghz, 16GB of RAM, a 980, and the game is installed on a SSD. I get ~70fps normally on all maxed out settings, with pretty frequent dips into the 40s while exploring the more bombed out areas of the city.
>>344282753
Well yeah, in that case, I'd definitely go with an 1070. Especially if you don't care about SLI.
>>344282654
670 isn't a low end model. The 1070 cost 400 atm which is in the same tier at its time.
Stay mad
>>344282863
>Bluray
>huge memecooler on a non-oc cpu
>Seagate
Fuck money, amirite?
The Way It's Meant to be Played™
>>344283226
You got this today? Fucking install it
>>344283226
I kinda want to buy an AMD just because of Nvidias constant shillery, but I don`t want to fry my mb.
>>344282863
>$53 for a blu-ray drive
why? I bought my LG blu-ray drive at Microcenter for $15 and it works fine. I've spent the last 2 days ripping all of my blu-ray movies and it's been great for that.
>>344283341
Just wait for the 490 my man. You can shit on 1070 users with their inferior ram and specs for years to come.
>>344283349
That`s DVD drive money where I live.
>>344283341
Why would you buy something to spite another company? That's just petty and stupid. Gimping your own system to "show them who's boss" is fucking dumb. Nvidia isn't going to know, or care, that you bought AMD over them.
Here you go, OP.
>>344283540
yeah, that's why I bought it. I wasn't even going to put an optical drive in my PC, but a nice blu-ray drive for that kind of money was too good to pass up.
>>344282174
>Except no source actually stated that the 480 would be better than the 1070 because they're not out yet.
Mate, they have already been tested and the 480 gets completely destroyed by the 1070. They arent even supposed to be on the same level. Its the Crossfire 480 that is claimed to be on the level of a 1080. A single 480 is a new midclass budget card.
There you go, boss. Don't believe the anti-amd memers. CPU will only make a difference of only a few fps in games. AMD GPUs are fine.
>>344284502
forgot pic
>>344284502
>AMD GPUs are fine
I agree.
>AMD CPUs are fine
see pic.
>>344284502
Nah. I've seen some benchmarks and amd cpus are not worth it. Cards are good though.
I will however give amd's new zen cpus a chance to see if they are actually competitive.
>>344284695
I have an intel cpu myself but in all benchmarks I've seen, the 8350 performs competently and won't make that much of a difference. In some rare games that are optimized for 6+ cores it may even perform slightly better. That said, if you want to swap in an intel cpu you can, just add about another 100 dollars to the budget.
>>344284502
AMD CPUs are garbage
hence why they are moving away from them to APUs
>>344283419
>inferior RAM
Mate, there is hardly any games that uses 4GB VRAM and youre telling me that 8GB VRAM on the 1070 wont be enough for the next 5+ years? Please...
>>344279514
Whats you budget?
