Final Fantasy 14 is the only modern mmo I can play without being bored on the next day(it takes at least 3 weeks or month before I cancel my sub)
What went right? They really didn't do anything new
Is it because grind?
>>344279384
>Is it because grind?
That's all the game has so yes.
being a weeb does that to you
>>344280332
But I hated tera and XI
>>344279384
Its atmosphere, world, music is top notch. Its just so comfy being in that world and setting that it makes the typical MMO problems more bearable.
>Have 3 houses on Balmung
>There are still people who say they've been trying to get one since they came out and still don't have one
>People I know are SO POOR they have to pool their plebian bank account with another pleb in order to even afford the 3m gil for a house
>>344282035
I await the day you and people like you get the ban hammer for this faggotry.
I have enough gil to buy several small houses and I still can't get one because faggot scalpers bought them all up the moment they put in new plots. All I want is a small fucking house in Lavender beds and you cancerous pieces of shit don't give a flying fuck.
I'm not paying your Jew prices so go die faggot. I'm not on your server anyway but I know there's fags like you on mine so the statement still applies.
>>344282035
Isn't balmug a ERP server?
>tfw friends quit and went back to WoW
>kind of want to play XIV still but it feels pointless without buds
>>344283593
Just play with anyone.
Everyone is either a weeb or normie on the game.
>>344283593
There prepatch coming for wow in next 2 weeks
All others mmo will be empty as fuck for the few months
>>344279384
if you played XI you wouldn't be phased by this garbage
>>344283308
Nigga I ain't selling shit. I could sell my small house to some faglord RIGHT NOW for 25m gil (they have a partyfinder up. They've had it up for weeks - nobody even wants to sell for 25m haha!) but I won't because I enjoy having a house in every citystate.
The best thing though is that I bought my first 2 houses from other players. One for 8m, the other for 12m. The 12m house is in the mists and I got it a week before the new houses came out.
People had partyfinders up going "DON'T BUY HOUSES FROM PEOPLE RIGHT NOW NEW ONES ARE COMING IN A WEEK" and then there's still endless tears because everything was snatched up in literally 20 minutes (I managed to snag my third house then - score!) and then all the poors either had to suck reseller dick or be homeless like they always were.
>>344281514
>Its atmosphere, world, music is top notch
wahahahaha nice taste sir fagalot
the game is very comfy. I am a traveling crafting merchant who sells high quality items to other players.
>>344283861
Dropped in 2 weeks, and left for wow
One of the worst games on the history of genre
>>344283937
>Music is 'eh' at best, don't see what the big deal is
>Aquapolis has 3 orchestrion rolls that had 1.0 music
>All of them are great
They really fucked up.
>>344280417
what does XI have to do with weebs?
>>344284136
Only weebs and retards played it back then
>>344284256
Tell me more about your mental retardation.
>>344282035
>"Gil is useless"
>Endless tears about how they can't afford a house
I have no idea what these idiots spend their gil on if it's supposedly useless.
>>344284386
FFXI was a game built for weeb NEETs.
I played so much Korean MMOs, I thought that tab-targetting was shit and games that play like WoW were terrible.
But FFXIV is like that "non-Walmart" premium brand MMO. At the end of the day it's a fucking WoW clone, but the amount of QoL, convenience, consistent lore, system, and atmosphere put into it made it stood out for me. I play all these other Korean mmos and for some reason it's like there's no love put into them. (TERA was close but Elin pandering got to them.)
>>344284750
Ohh so that's where the term 'poopsocking' came from.
Funny how it's never related to actual time investment anymore. "Just skip the cutscenes and you can get to 60 in 3 weeks" is met with "Sure if you want to poopsock" even though you can accomplish that through a couple of hours a day.
>>344279384
FFXIV has the most beautiful world and some decent gameplay, so you might be drawn in by those. But even then, it has so many other flaws that I quit it after a month and a half. So I don't know what else is interesting you. Certainly not the story and community.
>>344284750
Let me get this straight. Youre complaining about a minority pushing for more content? What exactly is bad about more content? Shouldnt that be in the interest of the casuals?
I never get you people. All I ever see you do is complain while the 'hardcore players' are at least playing the game. Isnt it your own inability to accept that youre simply not good enough to do something that stops you from being fine with 'hardcore players'? Because thats something that is really common in MMOS: The casuals will always claim that they simply lack time while in reality all they lack is discipline. They have enough time to compete, they simply choose to waste it doing nothing or to rewatch meme tv shows like Game of Thrones for the 100th time instead of progressing their characters.
Its basically what has been poisoning MMOS for ages: people who arent mature enough to live with their own decisions complain more about the game on its official forums than they actually play it.
>>344286523
>FFXIV has the most beautiful world and some decent gameplay
>the most beautiful world
You sure as hell havent playing Black Desert Online if you seriously think that ARR comes even close to that. ARR is not even remotely as immersive and mind-blowingly beautiful.
>>344286523
>Certainly not the story
>>344286842
lol you sound like a fucking loser
The game has no redeeming qualities so there's probably something wrong with you.
>>344287049
Oh yeah, the story is fantastic, isn't it? All those great quests like... I dunno, Goblin cheese or something. And those NPCs like Thancred who is a lady's man, and has inner turmoil or some shit. And for 800 quests out of 809 they all do nothing and you're just their little bitchboi.
Then they introduce some roegadyn bitch who dies in 10 quests and you're supposed to pretend to care.
Great fucking story, friend.
>>344287169
Compelling argument.
>>344279985
I just joined a few months ago.
I solo'd everything except dungeons for story/level progression.
48-50 is definitely fate camping/grinding.
Should I expect this for 50-60?
>>344279384
is pretty easy to know why:
it looks very pretty
the music is good
the U.I. is very simple for n ew players.
the quest structure is easy to follow.
it feels good when you are new and you finish your first dungeon.
among other reason.
the problem is when you are playing 15 hours a day, and you complain a couple of months later that the only thing left is to grind.
>>344287443
lol who needs to argue with you faglord no one gives a fuck about a 'hardcore' audience anymore
>>344287370
Realm Reborn's story isn't outstanding as it's meant to be a throwback to the NES days.
But the story is worth your time for everything after that.
>>344282035
>knew I could level crafting classes up and make dosh, but decided there wasn't any point in trying to get a personal house since it doesn't do anything for you an fc house can't
>still have way more money then I need
But man am I hurting now that the moogle tribe is out, fuck
>>344287049
I sure love being forced into a group with the most incompetent leader in the history of gaming. And you're fighting the Mighty Morphan Magitek Rangers.
>>344284750
Having played Everquest and XI both, and both extensively I can tell you this image is bullshit.
Especially when you consider that the expansions for FFXI were all lv30 content, which was less than half the max level when it released in NA.
Maybe if you spent a little more time playing games and less parroting memes on scandanavian whaling forums you'd have a better understanding.
In all likelihood you weren't old enough to play everquest, and you seem to hate XI so you probably haven't played that either. You're just salty about something.
>>344287548
Not really.
If you take your time to do some post Realm Reborn activities, you should find yourself at level 54 before you reach Heavens Sword.
I just get too burned out playing FFXIV. The game just isn't any fun when you aren't plugging away at the story. I don't typically mind grinding, but this game manages to find a way to make it the most tedious thing in the world. Maybe there's just too many fucking roulettes. In WoW you just did 1 fucking dungeon a day and then fucked off to do whatever you wanted in the world. In FFXIV you have to do like 6 roulettes and by the time you are finished you've already been playing for 3-4 hours without having ever left the capital city.
>>344287651
>it's meant to be a throwback to the NES days
Sounds like they made a very poor decision on something to throw back to.
And yes the story got better in HW. It's not GREAT but at least there's more characterization. Still, you have to trudge through 300+ quests to get there.
>>344287761
Just play the game a little longer.
You have no idea how many times I wanted to quit the game when I started.
Fucking hide and seek quests with kids, banquet quests, level 47 to 49, so many times.
But if you stick through it, it'll pay off, trust me.
>>344288124
>Just play the game a little longer.
I played all the way through Heavensward. The story doesn't get better. If anything, you just get more pointless quests and the story takes a back seat. Which would have been fine if you had more freedom to find quests or improvements to gameplay. But none of that happened. You just get a linear, story driven game that isn't good.
>>344288124
>After 100 hours it'll get good, promise :^)
>>344282035
>Have 2 houses on Balmung
>Friend says they and a friend have been trying to get a house for a year
>Think about selling them one of mine for fairly cheap. "What do you two plan on doing with it?"
>"We're going to make an RP cafe"
Sure am glad I asked before offering.
>>344286842
I remember the first time my LS went down and killed hakutaku 9 times for Ohats. We felt accomplished. I miss that feeling. There's no sense of overcoming something with teamwork in new MMOs.
>>344286950
>Black Dessert
>beautiful
maybe if you liked vanilla oblivion generic medieval-fantasy tier shit
>>344288765
>We felt accomplished. I miss that feeling
Are you honestly such a fucking loser you need videogames to feel accomplished? Jesus Christ.
>>344286950
>BDO
When will you saps stop saying, "this latest cookie cutter korean mmo will be different! not like the 30 that came before and the 30 that are in development now!"
Are you hyped up for that new icarus one? I'm sure that will be the one to show them all.
>>344289172
So youre telling me that you cant feel accomplished getting something done in a hobby? Chess? Any type of sports? Tailoring a piece of cloth etc.?
>>344289278
What exactly are you even talking about? I never said that it was the best game ever but acting as if it wasnt the best looking and most immersive MMO to date is just utterly bonkers.
>>344288765
What, you didn't feel accomplished getting through release steps of fate in df? Cause I sure as hell did.
>>344289172
A) Wasn't talking to you ya needy little twat
B) I don't need them to feel accomplished, but they're more fun with a feeling of accomplishment. You're a faggot who plays things on easy aren't you?
C) You're so summer I got sunburned replying to you.
>>344288730
Oh shit, that was a close one
>>344289517
steps of faith I mean to say
>>344288730
>Play on Balmung
>Dislike RP
What did he mean by this?
>>344289321
>Chess
Gay
>Sports
They can keep you fit at least, but still gay
>Tailoring
People can actually wear clothes.
But no, someone shouldn't be feeling accomplished from a skinner box no matter how difficult the button presses are.
>>344289517
I stopped playing before I reached that I guess, I never finished Coil.
That's not really what I meant though, I mean the community feeling. Working well as a team, where you couldn't just drop and pick up healers or DPS because you needed to know each others WS and MB. The sense of community.
>>344289321
You need to stop feeding him (you)s.
>>344289661
It's not that I dislike RP, it's that I'm so fucking hipster that the idea of selling my house to someone just to they can open another tavern/restaurant/cafe is off-putting.
>>344289925
Yeah man I sure would hate to have another event place as opposed to some guy just sitting on an empty house. I know this is copypasta and all but im still annoyed.
DDO when?
>>344289815
Is this the same sense of community that had everyone bitching about the fucking bullshit they had to sit through on FFXI every single time they wanted to accomplish the most trivial of tasks? The endless whining and bitching about "Fuckhole just grabbed a mob by mistake now we have to raise their fucking ass" or "These assholes came in and stole our NM after we waited for 4 hours"? These same people who say "We want exploration!" and then when they make the maps huge they whine about how long it takes to get anywhere? (I have a friend who played FFXI always wish for bigger maps, and just bitches non-stop about how large the HW maps are now). The same who will yell at people for 'pulling a hunt early' even though there's no such thing?
>>344290225
Sounds like you play with scrubs.
>>344290019
>Empty house
Yeah look at how empty this is.
And there's no shortage of places for events. You can browse any ward and find at least 10+ taverns for your fucking boring-as-fuck brooding edgemaster routine.
>>344290225
bunch e scrubs
>>344290225
Probably because the HW maps are void of meaningful content. Plus NMs were a mistake.
>>344287548
There is absolutely zero grinding required in this game. If you ever find yourself doing something repeatedly for EXP you are doing something wrong.
In your case, you probably missed several optional dungeons like Cutter's Cry, Dzemael Darkhold and Aurum Vale which provide much of the EXP in the late level 40s.
>>344290581
I dont mean literally empty. I just mean a house could go to a lot better use for people who actually want to actively use it as opposed to some guy who just has 3 houses for convenient teleports. Im not trying to go full Bern here and distribute houses evenly, its just a shame the system is so restricted.
>okay so we're going to make this MMO
>and to play with others and unlock content
>you need to do this boring ass singleplayer story quest
>which literally just consists of mobs that might as well be called fucking target dummies, lots of walking and cutscenes up the ass
I mean the game outside of that is good, but I can't stand it one fucking bit, I just want to fuck around with other people, not pretend I'm playing some mediocre final fantasy game.
>>344290685
I still have no idea what people mean when they say 'exploration' for an MMO. What exactly are they looking for?
>>344288765
>>344289815
The hardcore fights in FF14 are literally the most satisfying out of any MMO ever made.
Coil in particular will probably never be topped by any MMO in today's format.
>>344290805
>who just has 3 houses for convenient teleports
That's a thing? Why the fuck would someone use a house for a convenient teleport? The only place it puts you close to is your house.
You can go to Limsa if you need that marketboard/summoning bell in a hurry.
>>344283972
No you are a Warrior of Light saving the world over and over among thousands of other Warriors of Light. Crafting in this game makes as much sense as ERPing with a Lalafell male
>>344290870
You're actually playing one of the best Final Fantasies, you just don't know it yet.
>>344290979
>subjective opinion literally presented as fact
neat
I don't really go for
>dodge telegraphed AoE
>switch targets for a bit
The depth in MMO combat should come from a mix of the player and enemies, in FFXIV it's all from the enemy, it gets old.
>>344291315
Considering the low quality of final fantasy in general, yeah this is pretty accurate.
>>344291243i erp onece with a male lalafel as a submisive femroe....it was hot
>>344290690
Aurum Vale is the only worthwhile dungeon post 47, the other two don't give anywhere near the amount of exp. from 47 till 50 (or 49 realistically for the next story quest to unlock) you'll be grinding aurum vale and levelling roullettes.
Obligatory autismpost
Does leveling gathering jobs still induce suicidal thoughts?
>>344290870
I like the entire story setup of ffxiv way more then I do other mmo's, and although it can be tedious at times I'm glad it's this way.
>>344290887
I doubt people who say 'they want to explore' even have tried it before, cause there's a lot of little neat things all over the place, like the npcs with one-off dialogue when you get close. Hell just go to idlyshire and see how many people are down in the garden area, I bet you find maybe one person at most - no one even knows its there.
>>344291484
>Pop in to Aurum Vale
>Tank: "Ugh"
>Wait 20 minutes for new tank
God damnit SE.
>>344290887
What I would consider ideal for exploration:
>Do the stuff GW2 has on each map
>But dont have them listed on the map
>Then add in WoW's treasures and mini rare spawns or make B ranks relevant somehow
>Take the emphasis on Rift's events and make them as significant in XIV. Failing certain fate chains should result in quest hubs being TAKEN OVER and the aetheryte unusable until cleared
>Copy from Tibia at least one big quest chain mystery in each zone that starts from something unmarked like a letter on the ground, a body you discover, a crate with some unclaimed supplies. Make the quest journal tell you nothing.
>Announce when the big boss fate in the zone spawns
>Have weather cycles effect what enemies spawn and what DoL can discover (this might be controversial and a hassle) not just fishing
>Give a small incentive to enter dungeons through their actual entrance with a premade group
>Copy from Mabinogi the campfire and the banquet system. Sitting at a player made campfire with others provides a short term mini exp boost similar to the FC one. Banquet is a server wide event on a Saturday/Sunday where people who are in the area/building would build up rested EXP at an extremely fast rate. It stops climbing if you let your character go AFK or leave.
>Bring back mob farming as a viable option by doing something like ToS blue/white mobs that give bonus EXP but rarely spawn
The world looks stale to me, it is designed well but just looks and feels stale. Also the fact that invisible barriers exist bother the ever living fuck out of me. Everyone is a catgirl or a lalafell. No one talks in the dungeons. Everyone just sprints from fate to fate while doing the occasional quest. Did I mention everyone is a fucking catgirl? I did like how you can use chocobos as a pet and mount you can "raise"
These actually didn't make me quit the game. It's the fact that the questing is what bored me. The story was mind numbingly lame and some of the quest are fucking /emote. Maybe I'm just tired of mmo theme-park styled quest.
>There are faggots that have never done synced Coil
Truly shitters
>>344291952
>provides a short term mini exp boost similar to the FC one
Can we stop it with the fucking EXP boost shit? Holy fucking shit. Talk about something that's dead on fucking arrival.
>>344291891
Aurum Vale can be annoying as fuck if you're stuck with a retarded tank but its a great dungeon for exp farming because those saps give like 3k exp each.
>>344290887
Being able to uncover quests and dungeons on your own rather than an NPC and indicator telling you exactly where to go. That's literally all is needed. This is the major reason Tree of Savior is not as engaging as RO. That one simple change to set quests.
But on top of that, there should be plenty of other things you find through exploration. Including NPCs. Basically, make the player feel like they're actively doing something and not just following a chain of story.
>>344292205
Leveling in this takes a long time if you arent a neetlord. Fine the buff will instead boost your primary stat for 10 minutes for every 30 seconds you idle at the camp.
>>344292442
>Primary stat buffs
Is this going to carry into trials/raids/dungeons or will it be absolutely fucking useless?
And no, leveling does not take a long time if you are not a neetlord.
ITT: I stopped playing at level 34
>>344292442
No it doesn't
You can casually level to 50 in like a week if you know what to do
not a single mmo will ever reach up to wow and it is fucking sad
tfw there are nearly no mmos out there
that have seamless open world, combat with good animations and fludity like wow has
>>344292442
>Leveling in this takes a long time if you arent a neetlord.
So you've never played any other MMO ever?
>>344292849
32, Brayflox is the first noob shitter check
>>344293584
>combat with good animations and fludity like wow has
are you joking? wow has shitty animations and the fluidity of a 2004 game
>>344293706
you know what i fucking hate about wow the most.
is the fucking casting animation, you have your fucking staff in your back all the fuking time godfukingdammed, do something with it. jesus christ i fucking hate the casting animations
>>344291403
>t. Never actually attempted a hardcore raid in FF14
>>344293706
nah bro FF14 for exmaple stinks hard against it
>>344292849
I stopped at level 60. Game actually got worse the more you played. And since the end game is nothing but shitty raiding and crafting, it really died at the end.
>>344293584
Wow's animations are incredibly bad, dude.
Are you perhaps playing games on a toaster and wow is the only game that actually runs at a decent framerate on it?
I wish devs would just focus entirely on sandboxes. That way you dont need to force people to play together because they will just do in on their own due to resources being limited and the requirement of fighting over them. It might sound like a meme but player created content really is a thing. Now if only all the whiney casuals would finally leave the genre or at least get their fucking heads out their asses.
>>344279384
>doing repetative and grindy tasks with out getting bored the next day
>repeating daily still not getting bored
i think some might say you're autistic... and a weeb, the game didnt do anything right, you just fall into its target audience.
>>344294140
implying
the animations are updated and I am talking about the respond characteristics of the game too.
FFXIV is incredibly sluggish just like nearly every other MMO
>XIV
>get bored of the content within a day
>>344279384
>Final Fantasy 14 is the only modern mmo I can play without being bored
I was bored of this shit in less than a week.
>>344294217
By all means tell me where the money for making a game like this would come from, keeping in mind that only a few thousand turbo autists with no life would be interested in paying for it.
>Friend graduated from Uni this year
>He's been playing this shit for 12h a day since May
He's on a family vacation right now and I bet you anything he has withdrawal
>>344294793
From the thousands of turbo autists. You dont seem to understand that the vast majority of the cost comes from self made engines, fancy graphics and the constant development of PVE content. A true sandbox doesnt require you do create new dungeons or raids, it doesnt require you to constantly publish new shit because the basic toolbox of the game provides players with tons of stuff to do. A hardcore MMO player will also not care about a game looking like Albion Online or Black Desert (just to give 2 more recent examples). But youre probably one of the people who thinks that the cost of an MMO comes from server-load and customer support.
>>344291498
What is this
>>344295217
but there are many sandbox mmos out there...
>>344295421
What true sandbox that isnt from 2005 is there? Hardly any have official servers. Albion for example is trying but simply limits itself too hard by also wanting to go mobile. Makes everything really damn slow. Lineage doesnt even have official servers in the west anymore and Lineage 2s combat mechanics are, frankly speaking, too outdated for most people. Thats the biggest problem with most of these games: its not the graphics but the mechanics that keep people from playing them.
Unfortunately most modern developers are doing a better job in regards to combat mechanics but instead fuck up everything else. Or, you know, employ retarded P2W cash shops like ArcheAge.
>>344288730
>"We're going to make an RP cafe"
>any kind of resturant kind of thing
>either that or its some kind of brothel
>usually has some kind of ghetto 'stage' inside too
Why are RPers such shitty interior designers? It's like they only have one shtick and just copy each other
>>344294217
There have been at least 3 sandbox fantasy MMOs I've seen come out and they've all been unrelenting failures.
>>344295890
what about black desert?
I have no clue how it is, but supposedly it is a sandbox mmo
or is it just a "light" verion
>>344294217
>because they will just do in on their own due to resources being limited and the requirement of fighting over them
Or they just won't play.
Oh wait they already do that because every MMO that tries to do this fails because nobody can get invested when a couple of fuckholes can come by and tear down all the work you did.
>>344296398
Name them and I am pretty sure that I can tell you why. The problem is that 'being a sandbox' doesnt mean that it was done right. It simply means that you took the right approach, still possible the you fucked up on every aspect of the game imaginable. Look at ArcheAge as an example. Brilliant goddamn game. It made so many things right that the flaws became borderline irrelevant. ArcheAge alpha and beta were mind blowing. then came the P2W cash shop and people quit in droves.
>>344296625
I played Black Desert for 3months, probably like 12+ hours a day and can say that while loving the game with all my heart I still had to quit because it did too many things wrong. Its not a sandbox, and the longer the game continues to get developed the less of one it becomes.
Let me give you one example of why it isnt. Node and Siege Wars restrict people from intervening if they arent participating in the fight for a Node (Node basically is an area on the map). You participate by having a fort, but a fort costs guild funds and youre unable to continue the fight if the fort dies. That means that small PK guilds for example can NEVER mess with big guilds, ever. The Node/Siege Wars basically are instanced content.
However, I can tell you that this wasnt the case in Beta on KR. The game changed A LOT since then. Like, really a lot. Back then PK/OW PVP was encouraged. Now its discouraged as much as possible.
>>344296876
And only whiney casuals will have a problem with that. All others will move on and try to find ways around this 'issue' instead of poisoning the official forums with complaints. Some people still go through life and dont expect everything being handed to them.
>>344296293
Because the vast majority of roleplayers just want to do something basic before getting to the ERP so they don't have to feel like they're "just doing shallow cybering" and pretend they have a deep, meaningful relationship.
>>344286523
Tera and BDO beat 14 loading screen overworld by miles even today. Dungeons design is another thing through.
>>344297173
>And only whiney casuals will have a problem with that
Oh look... the vast majority of players.
Also, most people have no idea what they want, and most of you stupid assholes are chasing nostalgia from when you think your life was better. Fuck off already, leave the genre.
Most """""""sandboxes""""""" are actually just open-world concepts with a FEW sandbox elements thrown in, anyway. Minecraft is a sandbox. Second Life is a sandbox. Everquest Next was a sandbox. Mortal Online. There's 2 upcoming MMOs that look like they have sandbox elements and they'll be dead on arrival too.
Good. Fucking good. This stupid sandbox shit needs to end, and all the naive fuckbois who think it'll save their dead genre should lose all hope that their """""""accomplishments""""""" will ever return.
i like it and no one can stop me
>>344297817
>Oh look... the vast majority of players.
How often do I have to say it? You dont need the so called vast majority of players to successfully run a game. You only need that if you want to imitate WoW because the WoW type of MMO needs constant content patches that require shit loads of developers and therefore money to make.
>most of you stupid assholes are chasing nostalgia
Coming from a person who most likely shit posts on the official forums of any recently released MMO and complain that its not enough like WoW.
>This stupid sandbox shit needs to end
What needs to end is instanced garbage like WoW, Wildstar, BnS etc. There isnt even a point for the world to exist because no one ever does anything in it. MMOs provide an open world environment that is only properly utilized in a sandbox. No MMO that ever put an emphasis on instanced content EVER made proper use of the open world the game was build around. People spend all their time in dungeons, raids and arenas that are completely cut off from the actual world. Instanced MMOs are the biggest waste of time ever, because people ignore 90% of the content.
The genre youre looking for ARPG and dungeon crawlers. People like you dont need MMOs, you simply jumped onto the bandwagon because WoW turned the genre into some 5men instanced mess that requires no communication whatsoever.
>>344297173
Nigga there's never been an actual sandbox MMO except for maybe EVE, but I've never played that so I wouldn't know.
A sandbox means you can actually make content. Being able to put a pre-fab house down in Archeage doesn't make it a sandbox. Being able to go out fishing doesn't make it a sandbox. Having 'hidden quests' doesn't make it a sandbox. It's all pre-made content that a player interacts with.
SWG, Everquest, Asheron's Call, Ultima Online; I've played them all and none of them are sandboxes. They don't even have sandbox elements like City of Heroes or Neverwinter where you can make your own quests/dungeons for other people to play.
The word most people should actually use is "open world".
>>344298434
The best thing is no matter how much you may be right nobody cares and you're never going to get the shitty games you want, hahahaha you're just going to keep chasing the dream forever fucking kek
Should XIV have an Offline Mode like Dragon Quest X?
>>344279384
FF14 is good right now for new players because there is so much content to do. However, permanent players are loosing interest as they clear newer content faster than it is produces. Which is obvious , of course, but it's the ratio that is the problem. If you exclude Savage mode, it will take you one week to explore 3 months worth of work.
>>344283719
My character name is a name from a popular anime series and the number of comments I get from people is ridiculous, the the point where it begins to be a bit annoying.
Fucking webs everywhere, man.
>>344299090
It should have been an offline game with optional online raiding at the end. Same as Old Republic.
>>344299585
Is that you Kirito Strife?
>>344299585
You deserve everything you get.
>>344299585
>purposefully use a name from anime
>why are all these weebs trying to talk to me!
>>344301045
Ive played for 1 year, it was funny the first 6 months but then I realized my mistake.
Also because I'm unimaginative as fuck when it comes to name so I just pick one from a character I like.
>>344279384
It's a quality game, but it doesn't really start until you reach level 50.
>>344301460
People do it all the time. Back in the RO days, everyone just used an anime name, including myself.
>>344279384
>What went right?
Literally nothing. You just have shit taste, like the majority of people who play MMOs. So they just copied the most popular garbage there is and got themselves a bunch of players.
The biggest gripe I have is how focused it is on single player content. I haven't felt so secluded from other players since I briefly play The Old Republic.
>>344301772
Really? Fucking really? Did that bullshit need any glowy effects at all?
>>344279384
I wish Square Enix releases DQX soon. I'm just tired of WoW: Final Fantasy edition
>>344304243
Sign more petitions and tell them on their facebook. SE has already said we're getting DQ games because of 'fan outcry'. We need to do the same for DQX. Especially since its being released in China soon, they have no excuse anymore.
>>344304243
DQX never ever, Dragon Quest is niche as fuck anywhere but Japan while Final Fantasy is a worldwide thing.
>>344303427
>particle effects trigger /v/
>>344303427
Wellcome to ANY Final Fantasy game.
>tfw you want to play FFXIV more but can't fully invest in it because you have a job now and you only have so much free time in a week and there are other games you want to play as well that would take up that free time
>>344304687
DQ sells better than many JRPG series which get more consistent western releases. You need to stop spouting this crap.
>>344304687
It's not really that niche, at least it wasn't. Square Enix have been fucking stupid in managing the series on West after DQ8
DQ9 was released just right after DS flashcards were more accesible and still sold over 1 million units only in west
