WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING HARD
WHO SHOULD I CHOOSE?
FUCK
>>344276947
TEAM HEAVYplus Heavy is the one needing some new weapons and shit, he keeps getting nerfed while Pyro just gets OP
>>344276947
Honestly Pyro needs a rebalance much more than Heavy does.
>>344276947
>team can shoot faraway
Vs
>team can't shoot faraway
Gee I wonder who wins?
>>344276947
>team medic's bitch
>team best class
Wow, what a choice.
>>344277252
>being so shit at heavy that you need a medic
>>344277195
>implying minigun is any good at range
>what is three flavours of flares
Fight is situational, like every matchup in this game.
>>344276947
So it's a splatfest?
>>344277312
At the same skill level Heavy doesn't stand a chance without a Medic, he's just too easy of a target for the enemy team.
If you're doing good as a solo Heavy, you're either really good, or most likely the enemy team is just really bad.
I like both but I never play heavy, Pyro for me.
Pyro
>complained about at low levels of play due to being annoying while becoming redundant at high skill levels
>multiple weapons that are strict upgrades of their stock counterparts
Heavy
>could do with being stronger at high skill levels
>alternative weapons have become stale or uninteresting
>stock shotgun is almost entirely unused
>>344276947
Pyro is the nigger of TF2, if you didn't go Heavy you're a fucking asshole.
>>344277537
This
>>344276947
>2016
Pick Pyro
Heavy is a meme class
>>344276947
>not making heavy great again
>we'll only give you a bit of content! We won't give you any more! Pick which one you want!
Honestly, fuck Valve.
>>344278305
It's a meme game.
Every class is a meme class.
>>344278305
Fuck off.
There both so fucking UP that it hurts.
Pyro, however, got some good buffs this update while heavy just got EVEN MORE NERFED. So I voted heavy.
>>344279103
>Pyro
>Underpowered
You're fucking with me, right?
Pyro is the only class without an apparent counter.
He can airblast rockets and just W+M1 anyone else, even if he dies he can still rack up some kills with the burn condition applied to his target where they take damage over time.
Good Pyro> every class, no matter how good they are.
If they team up with their engifags they are impossible to destroy since they get free ammo, heal and they spycheck every fucking corner and nook in the area making it impossible to brick the engineers toys.
übercharged? He will just airblast you away/off a cliff.
Pyro is a total asshole and his removal would only better the game.
>>344279436
>pyro is the only class without an apparent counter
>>344279516
Give me the fucking counter then, you dumb fucking catposter.
>>344279537
You can't talk about Blacksad like that.
>>344279567
Then give me the counter.
>>344279436
Nigga, when was the last time you played the game?
Airblast has been nerfed, W+M1 from a dedicated close quarter ambush class does less damage than regular shotgun meatshots, afterburn damage is pathetic and there has been added so many new ways to get rid of it, not even counting the medpacks scattered around the map, that it might as well not exist.
>>344279436
His best counter since axe was butchered is heavy you shit
helping my dick choose.
>>344279647
HAHAHAHA
>>344278619
Valve continually updating games for free providing more content than you can play with.
>some queer autist still begs for more
Holy shit I left this game fucking ages ago and shitters are STILL complaining about pyro?
Holy fucking shit /v/ sucks at videogames
>>344279626
Airblasted rocket = Crit Rocket, the most OP thing in the entire game that oneshots most classes.
W+M1 is an effective crowd controll, as long as you dont suck ass and get offed by some faggot two seconds after holding M1 you have basically killed them all.
>>344277521
>Shotgun is unused
Stop talking
Choose Pyro
>>344280610
Please leave.
>2016
>TF2
really?
So do we see the score in the menu thing or is that just the percentage of players on the teams?
>>344280809
Return to your Overshit then.
>>344280809
I MEAN COME ON
>>344279856
>fire at pyro's feet
>airblasting no longer works unless you're using rockets way too close to the pyro
WOOOOOOOWWWWWW
Choose Heavy. Pyro is interesting enough. He can airblast, crit on demand, set people on fire, ambush people etc.
Heavy however is fucking boring. He just goes slow and shoots his gun. Zzzz... vote heavy. give that class a revamp.
>>344279537
Scout
Team heavy you ass
>>344281581
Are you a literal retard?
Have you even tried doing what you just claimed is the magical solution to all niggardry in TF2?
Fuck off with your absolute bullshit, why do you feel the need to post when anyone with over 5 minutes of soldier play time can tell you that you're wrong?
>>344281834
>Class with least healthpool going up against the guy who barely has to aim to melt away your HP
Do you even play the game or did you just pull that out of your ass? I never play Pyro, but when I do scouts are the easiest targets.
>>344276947
Team heavy falling behind because all the furries are voting for pyro
And considering TF2's player base..
>>344282225
Yes I have logged 5k hours and Scouts eat Pyros for breakfast
You're playing with shit people anon
>>344276947
>copied overwatch
>now copying splatoon
>>344282268
I don't have 5k hours, but I've never EVER seen a scout that could kill a pyro at full health.
Tell me your secrets, 'cause it sure as fuck aint just shooting at them with your shotgun.
Team Pyro.
No contest
>>344282403
Baseball Bat and Ball, shot gun from behind.
EZ
>>344282403
Basic Pyro strats for Scout
Avoid the flame, stay out of their range, heckle them with your shotgun and pistol, dodge the flares, if he turns his back to you meatshot him.If you can't aim play something else
Never jump around a Pyro: if you jump, they will airblast you and will be stalled in mid-air. If you save jumping until they airblast you, you can use your second double jump to escape.
If you are a good Scout you can shit on anyone, especially Pyros, they can't do anything to you
Even Engineers aren't too much of a problem if you are smart
>>344282157
>shoot walls near pyro
>shoot floors near pyro
>do literally anything but fire head-on at effective airblast range or close range like a complete retard
alternately
>pull out your fucking shotgun
>dead pyro
>>344282225
are you implying that the class with the fastest move speed can't stay out of the range of the class with the worst effective range?
of course pyro gets rekt by every scout that played at least 2 hours of tf2
>get new router
>for some reason tf2 doesnt work anymore
god damnit
i've tried everything
>>344279726
Fem pyro is obviously the best mod but it's a shame that no woman has thought to just mumble into a mic a bit for her, yet that shitty ugly femscout model has a full new voice set in a bronx accent and everything.
>>344278619
When this happened last time both classes got new shit, so its more for fun than anything.
>>344282403
>it sure as fuck aint just shooting at them with your shotgun.
Roughly 45-60 damage at mid range with the stock scatter if you place your shots well IIRC, you can finish him without even expending your entire magazine while backpedalling / dodging his shit.
Also never forget your pistol. Ever. If you can aim with that, you can seriously shit on people. A lot of casual Scouts don't use their pistol. Learn to aim.
>>344282786
You must be a literal fucking tard.
Shooting a rocket near pyro just means he can get inside the direct rocket travel line and still airblast, the airblast has a wider ranger than you think.
>Shotgun meme
It does 4-10 damage from long range, with 6 shots you can do a max of whopping 60 damage if you're lucky basically less than half his HP.
If you try to get any closer with the shotgun your face will be melted, also, the shotgun does shit damage at close range too, it should only be used to finish enemies at close range after you've already hit them with a couple rockets.
>>344276947
>hey guys we're only gonna give you half the content you want, isn't that great!
>yeah it's awesome thanks lord gaben!
Valvedrones, everyone.
>>344282806
>Worst effective range
Scouts can't do shit from long range without having a good pyro fuck him in the ass with his flare gun.
the flamethrower has a wide range and will fuck up any scout that tries to crown him with the shotgun.
>>344279537
Literally every class counters Pyro.
Easily the worst class in the game.
>>344279838
I play just about every class except spy and sniper, and I've had people screaming at me for being a fucking scrub-ass noob retard for playing every one of them. There's always that one guy who's screaming and whining as he gets dominated and he'll carry his asshurt onto the internet to spew out at everyone else.
>>344278619
Learn to read faggot, the one who wins will get the update first but the other class will get an update anyway
>>344276947
They've literally done this before and eventually did both
>>344283301
I wish.
>>344276947
Signing in just to vote for heavy because pyro is so garbage playerbase and character construct-wise that it would be better if it was deleted entirely.
>>344277252
>team medic's bitch
Is this how medics convince themselves they're playing a game when they're getting led around by the dick?
I'd like more Heavy weapons
>>344283103
Anon, airblast doesn't magnetize towards the soldier. If a pyro reflects a rocket at a weird angle, that rocket isn't going to hit jack shit. That's why firing at walls/floors is good, because then the pyro only has these options:
>Dodge
>Attempt to airblast, waste ammo hitting the rocket into another floor
>Attempt to walk infront of rocket, get hit or reflect it at a still-odd angle
>Get hit
Also,
>shotgun
>long range
You shouldn't be engaging a pyro from anywhere but midrange you retard. Shotgun does good enough damage while still staying outside the flamethrower's range. If you fire a rocket at a pyro and get it reflected and have it hit you, either you were using rockets at mid/closerange like a fucking BR-tier faggot, or you didn't hear the VERY LOUD audio cue of a rocket ten billion miles away you could dodge by hitting A or D for a second.
>>344283103
>It does 4-10 damage from long range,
>If you try to get any closer with the shotgun your face will be melted,
>>344283430
My bad, sometimes I forget Spy is a class.
Almost every class counters Pyro. There we go.
>Still playing TF2 when Overwatch is available
Kek
pyros are still more useful than spies right?
Pyro is actually almost OK, balance-wise. Heavy DESPERATELY needs new shit, and a general re-balance.
If the first WAR! was any indication, they may have something totally new in mind akin to Demoknight, which they've decided can go to either Heavy or Pyro. If so, it NEEDS to go to Heavy.
>>344283568
Nice try faggot, the game tells you the damage when you shoot others in the shape of big red numbers above your enemies head.
>>344283670
Spies are good for utility cases, like shutting down Engi equipment for long enough for the rest of your team to get in and fuck shit up.
>>344276947
So many wonderful voice lines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArChK-OyIC8
>>344283186
You're not supposed to shoot them from a mile away bro, you're supposed to backpedal and stay barely out of their range. You won't meatshot them, but 30 damage is still better than 0. You can chip them away until they either retreat (at which point you follow them always keeping safety distance) or die trying to kill you.
Also remember to go towards your team or to the nearest open space when backpedaling.
>>344276947
People still play this game?
You guys know Overwatch released, right?
>>344283670
pyro still out-does spy with the meme-burner and gets to have free hp with the melee weapon that literally every pyro uses. Spy(and every other class, even soldier) needs to actually learn a skill ie: aiming an amby/gun in general as opposed to m2 m1 hit with fuckhueg projectile. Heavy needs this vote, as nobody plays him. In public servers he will immediately be swarmed by the entire team as he is slow as fuck and honestly requires either extreme mobility planning combined with baiting people, or a medic.
>>344283483
Remember, you only have four rockets before the excruciatingsly slow reload animation.
Unless he uses the backburner he will still have alot of ammo left after airblasting your four rockets, even is he does use the backburner he will still have enough ammo to set you on fire.
Then his flaregun or axe will finish you.
Even if you switch to the shotgun after he airblasts away your rockets he will still be able to set you on fire for a good amount of time and basically doom you unless a medic is nearby.
>>344283569
Stop trying to convince people you've actually played the game, it's obvious you haven't. Atleast not within a 5 month time span.
>>344283813
Who the fuck wants to play that piece of shit?
>>344283478
As a Medic you can always choose to abandon a shitty player for someone who is going to use the health boosts and the uber more effectively. That's part of playing the class.
>>344283903
>fire four rockets
>get all four reflected
This has never happened unless you're playing like the world's biggest retard.
And like I said, if you're anywhere NEAR close enough for the pyro to start using the flamethrower, you should be using your shotgun.
Also,
>axtinguisher
>after the nerf
pffffhahahaha
>>344283813
>>344283621
There are actually people this desperate to never feel buyers remorse that they will shill a game they've played for 1 hour before getting bored and played something else.
Overshit was the worst team shooter I've played in my entire life, skill doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is if your class counters their.
Boring characters and even more boring maps with shit voicelines and cringeworthy writing
>DIE DIE DIE
>HEROES NEVER DIE
>THE WORLD COULD ALWAYS USE MORE HEROES
>THE CAVALRYS HERE LUV!
This shit is a failed game aimed at kiddies but still enough edge to keep you manchildren interested.
Fuck off.
>>344284115
>Get all four reflected
Never said that, but one-two rockets is not enough to kill him.
>>344283813
Yeah mates, it's all over.
>>344284115
Also, I never said Axtinguisher, just Axe.
The strongest weapon in the game, the quickie bomb launcher, just got a significant buff by taking away its one small weakness .The stickies stay now, meaning it can be used defensively, which makes it by far the strongest weapon the demoman, the strongest class in the game now owns.
And yet everybody's just bitching about the weak, pitiful pyro for some goddamn reason. All I can guess is that some people got analpained over dying from afterburn or something, because goddamn, where the fuck does everybody get off whining about the game's punching bag? It's a close range class that gets outclassed in close range damage by like half of the other classes, it's ridiculous.
>>344276947
Uninstall the game and move on with your life because tf2 is fucking shit an not worth your time anymore, please listen! This is coming from someone with over 5k hours WASTED on this drek..don't end up like me my child.. this old man is already dead so play something else! Don't give In! You have your whole life ahead of you
>>344284215
>never said that
>Remember, you only have four rockets before the excrutiatingly slow reload animation.
And, just in case I misunderstood you and you meant that 1-2 rockets wouldn't kill him after he reflected the other two,
>SHOT
>GUN
>>344284151
There are actually people this desperate to never spend a dime that they will shill a game they've played for 4000 hours despite being bored and wanting to play something else.
TF2 was the worst team shooter I've played in my entire life, skill doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is if you're playing soldier demo or scout. Boring characters and even more boring maps with shit voicelines and cringeworthy writing
>BEEP BOOP I AM A ROBOT
>ENTIRE TEAM IS BABIES
>BONK
>OI THAT WAS A BLOODY BEAUT
This shit is a failed game aimed at slavs but still enough edge to keep you NEETs interested.
Fuck off.
>>344283813
>dominatorcucks
>>344284215
not him but
you actually did
>...he will still have alot of ammo left after airblasting your four rockets...
>>344284370
You can't shill a free to play game you stupid Blizzdrone. Kill yourself.
>>344284309
Blame b4nny.
Valve has been asking him for balance input and he has some sort of weird vendetta against heavy and pyro.
>>344283757
>i am going to break my foot off in this Thai's ass
holy shit when did soldier get so racist i cant believe valve let this slip
>>344284397
delete this
>>344284370
This is like watching that Fallout 3 faggot trying to shitpost Vegas.
>>344276947
God damn it, This matchmaking system is shit.
>>344284475
>TF2 is better because it's free 2 play with microtransactions
>meanwhile we'll shit on Evolve for going F2P without any transactions at all
Oh you, /v/
>>344277363
pyro has 4 flareguns
>>344284572
>you can play TF2 forever without ever even being encouraged to spend a cent
>implying I care about Evolve at all
>>344284572
Nobody's given a shit about evolve since it was released, for 60 dollars, as an empty shell of a game with a massive cash shop. Ever since release the game's been dead so nobody gives a fuck if it's gone F2P or not.
>>344284430
Not four rockets, I just said "Rockets" which could be less than three.
I actually double check that shit before I reply.
>>344284370
Nice meme negroid.
I've logged 4k hours and still not bored, the voicelines are the best I've ever heard, just enough comedy to make you chuckle.
The TF2 Characters have personality, while your overdumb characters are stale and uninteresting blasé faggots, the only character that comes close to being interesting in Overwatch is Junkrat.
>>344284364
Shotgun is shit, a decent Pyro WILL kill you before you can finish him with your shotgun, what is it that you do not understand?
>>344284564
>TF2
>matchmaking
I haven't played the game in years because I'm not some poor faggot on a toaster living in the eastern bloc, but TF2 used a server list last I checked. Did they just remove that or are you too stupid to use one?
>>344283813
I play both games
>>344284309
Why the fuck does demo now get a weapon that is deals a fuckton of AoE damage in front of him but can also be used defensively?
Let's not forget that with this change the quickie bomb launcher can also take out sentry nests.
>>344284738
>you can't have both
Dumb blizzcuck.
>>344284738
They still have the browser but their form of matchmaking is basically a quickplay option that just dumps you into a server
>>344284717
>hit pyro with two rockets
>implying a shotgun isnt enough to finish him off
The absolute fuck are you smoking?
Also,
>>344283903
>unless he uses the backburner he will still have alot of ammo after reflecting your four rockets
Come the fuck on, anon.
>>344284738
The new big TF2 update that just came out is literally competitive matchmaking m8.
http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/
>Overwatch threads get TF2 shitposters/false flaggers
>TF2 threads get OW shitposters/false flaggers
Jesus christ, we just want to discuss the changes.
>>344284951
>Implying you can hit him with two rockets and then have enough time to finish him off without him setting you on fire for long enough for you to die
Please, stop.
>Come the fuck on, anon.
You got me there.
>>344284717
Nigga are you joking
go read again your own post ffs
>>344283903
second line, first phrase
are you baiting or what?
besides
>Shotgun is shit, a decent Pyro WILL kill you before you can finish him with your shotgun, what is it that you do not understand?
>shotgun is shit
not it isn't. it's an awesome secondary option
>a decent Pyro WILL kill you before you can finish him with your shotgun
if you shot a few rockets near his feet there's no way he can survive a few shots from the shotgun
>what is it that you do not understand?
the one that doesn't understand here is you friendo. are you actually implying soldier has problems fighting pyros? what the fuck
>Valve starts by making people vote who gets the next arcana in dota
>Then moves on to letting people vote who actually gets new voice work and a model rework, despite tons of heroes needing it, but we only get one for some reason
>Now voting who actually gets rebalanced when both classes need it
I swear to god this company gets lazier and lazier
>Look guys vote! Team pyro or team heavy! (That way we only have to do half the work)
>>344284970
>TF2 is adding comp matchmaking
Holy shit, talk about late to the party
Did they forget TF Lobby or whatever the fuck they call it now has existed for half a decade?
>>344283903
>t. Pyro Main
There was a point where Pyro was good, but they nerfed him.
He's back to what he originally was, which is a pubstomper. There's a reason why Competitive TF2 matches don't use Pyro outside of Highlander and very very specific situations.
>>344285014
>Jesus christ, we just want to discuss the changes.
Why bother? They don't matter. TF2 meta will always be dominated by soldiers and demos because they have kits with no weakness. If you've somehow managed to reach thousands of hours and are still playing after 10 years but you can't soldier airshot what the fuck are you doing with your life
>>344285235
>Hold S
>fire rockets at walls/ceiling/floor around approaching pyro
>pyro manages to dodge/reflect two in absolute worst case scenario
>still takes a good chunk of splash damage
>*unzips shotgun*
>pyro has about enough time to just barely hit you with afterburn if he's lucky before shotgun ultrafucks him at anywhere near flamethrower range
>pick up small medkit
>???
>>344277312
>Engineer with a widowmaker rushes towards you
>he moves faster than you
>infinite ammo
>puts a minisentry behind a wall
>headshots destroy your HP
Yeah against some players playing heavy wihout a medic is hard.
>>344285241
>Now voting who actually gets rebalanced when both classes need it
They're both going to get new stuff. It's just that the winner is going to get it first. WAR was the same way. It was Soldier vs Demoman and Soldier won and got the Gunboats. Then later on Demoman got the Wee Booties, it would've been the reward had Demoman won the WAR.
>>344285235
The soldier has 200 fucking health, it takes ages for the pyro to burn through it. How fucking terrible at soldier are you? Nobody else has this problem but you. You can fire rockets around them so they can't airblast effectively, you can pull out your shotgun, you can rocket jump and rain down rockets from high above where they can't effectively fight you. The only way a pyro is going to kill a soldier is if they ambush him, which, incidentally, is what the pyro's job is supposed to be. So if you're whining because you're getting ambushed, too bad, suck it up. If you can't deal with a pyro W+M1ing you out in the open, then what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>344285435
>TF2 meta will always be dominated by soldiers and demos because they have kits with no weakness.
Pretty much. Pyro is the closest thing to a counter they have, and that's just a joke most of the time.
>>344285424
Pyro is really fun on some maps. Blowing the other team off of the bridge on doublecross is always great.
>>344277425
Except the results will actually matter in the game's development.
>>344285719
>Pyro is really fun on some maps.
That's really the problem with pyro. He's only semi effective on very specific maps. Any map with a chokepoint at any point in it, pyro's fucked. Any map with lots of long tunnels (aka fucking 2fort), pyro's fucked. Any map with lots of open space and not much cover, pyro's fucked. Pyro needs to have a map with just the right blend of small rooms and short hallways and open spaces with lots of cover, because if they get trapped in a tight room with no exit they're fucked, if they get trapped out in the open with nothing to hide behind they're fucked. They're more dependent on the scenery around them then any other class, save maybe sniper.
I miss that short time when the Short Circuit was absolutely fucking ridiculous.
>a boring slow guy that i only play when the team needs me, but i don't have fun doing it
>needs a rework in order to be fun and viable
or
>a guy with 175 hp and 100% move speed with a shotgun and a fun variety of melee weapons, along with an anti-projectile weapon
>probably needs a nerf
>>344286069
>go on valve server as soldier
>immediatly swarmed by like three bugzapping engineers
>can't get any rockets off
>die
Never in my life have I laughed harder at a video game.
What does /v/ think?
Should pyro get some (more) advanced movement mechanics like soldier and demo (not as powerful though)?
>>344286212
pyro is literally only winning because of faggotry
>>344285559
>Engineer with a widowmaker rushes towards you
>Whip out your minigun and chew through his pathetic 150 health in 2 seconds while he impotently chips away a bit of damage with his shotgun
This isn't fucking rocket science, how the fuck are you getting bullied by engineers as a goddamn heavy? Also there are no headshots on anything except the ambassador and the sniper's rifles.
>>344286260
I think he does, but shitters will disagree, thinking he's more OP than both demo and soldier
>>344286284
yeah, i hate either choosing to side with all 4 heavy mains in the world or every furry or brony who plays tf2, who is coincidentally a pyro main
>>344286260
The best option would probably be to restore the detonator to how it was in the beta.
https://youtu.be/8OXhd1iYowg
>Cash cow the game get's a competitive update
>meanwhile nobody gives a shit about the actual competitive scene
Why is this saving this shit game again?
I'm imagining Pyro's new primary is going to be some kinda incendiary shotgun. Something that you have to aim and could fuck up horribly and die with if you miss, while not being completely gimmicky like the flare guns.
in b4
>TWO SHOTGUNS
Heavy had two shotguns in Team Fortress Classic.
>>344286440
>Dustbowl
I'm honestly not sure whether this, 2fort, or hightower is the absolute worst map in the game. They're all pretty fucking ridiculously godawful, though.
Heavy obviously
Cyka blyat
>>344286632
Dustbowl resulted in this, so there's that.
https://youtu.be/Y009oQEa8d8
>Leaving balancing up to a Splatfest
Has Valve just said "fuck it"?
>>344286440
that looks fun as hell but how much health did it cost to flare jump? right now it costs a lot and you can't afford to use it to dive bomb on enemies because it costs too much.
also i don't think locking such a strong ability to a single weapon is a good idea. that'd hurt the wep variety a lot.
>>344286814
>i wasn't here for the soldier vs demo war
get lost f2p
>>344286814
When that shit's somehow better than their last 10 balancing actsmass-upvoted Reddit suggestions, you know you've fucked up as a game dev.
>>344286814
i've heard that phrase too many times over nearly a decade
>>344279537
Engineer.
You can't touch him.
Maybe a good soldier that rocket jumps away and shoots the ground next to you so you can't hit him with the reflects and still take splash damage.
>>344285585
Didnt the wee booties come out a long time later? Like, years later? I wasnt playing for the WAR update but I remember the booties getting added
>>344286895
Remove the ability for the detonator to minicrit or crit and I think it'd be fair. The flaregun does a ridiculous amount of damage, it'd be a tough choice between such mobility and the ranged damage that a pyro desperately needs.
The scorch shot really needs something unique about it though, I don't understand what it's purpose is supposed to be.
>more empty gameservers than people playing
>>344279856
It's not a crit it's a minicrit
+35% damage and that's it. If you hit the soldier who is in the air, immune to splash damage.
>>344287151
The scorch shot is for disruption/harassment. Fire it at a payload/point full of enemies to fuck them up a little while teammates go in.
At least, that's what I use it for.
>>344276947
>literally new weapons
Pyro
>>344287151
i think the scorch shot was supposed to be a spammy annoying weapon to harass players from far away.
i don't know why valve thought that was a good idea. it gives nothing useful to the pyro and it's only a nuisance to the enemy team.
>>344282980
Can't they just pitch shift it? It might be possible without new sound files.
>mfw i'm this close to buying the carlton
https://youtu.be/eYOWnDx3cpo?t=8m54s
>>344287420
It's decent as a harassment tool. I use it to distract snipers so my team can pass through easier. Flare gun requires a little more skill, but the result is the same unless they're idiots who don't run to heal.
>>344287529
That's what they do, but it's still fairly obviously a dude's voice, just in falsetto. You get used to it, but still, an ass like that needs a proper feminine mumble.
man, what does this update even contain? I remember having weeklong updates. What has this game become?
You get to choose between two fundamentally broken classes that need fixing?
>but le funny comic
>buy the new taunts please
At least Dota fags get some new content. Even if Volvo only cares about CS:GO.
>>344283813
My laptop can't run overwatch
>>344287725
i don't think it's a good enough reason to use it over the shotgun/reserve/flare/det
also the det can do a similar work with just a bit of practice
>>344279537
Scout can easily stay out of range, and has multiple ways of getting rid of the burning condition, speed being one, he can get to healing faster.
Soldier can easily stay out of range with rocket jumps, has a shotgun that's just as good as the pyro's and more health, equal aiming abilities means soldier wins every shotgun exchange
Pyro is almost immune to fire, two pyros can barely enter each other range and attack without both dying, have to rely entirely on ambushes, can airblast flares, pyro basically counters itself
Demoman is the one class that legit has issues with pyro, but he can still easily just get away from him.
Heavy has more HP, way, WAY higher DPS at the same range, has healing items to get rid of burning and is usually glued to a medic
Engineer's sentry shits on pyros if it's built in a place he cannot reach with his flamethrower
Medic is usually with any of those other classes, and makes burning useless (even worse, burning medic targets actually increase his uber slightly faster) and the medic is faster than pyro
Sniper can lockdown a pyro easily if he knows he's there, pyro has to rely on ambush, it's a balanced match-up between those two
Pyro's the spy hard counter, but a competent spy can kill a pyro easily, even just with a revolver at beyond his range.
He doesn't have a typical "hard" counter like Heavy with sniper and spy, engineer with demoman or scout with engineer, but every class easily outclasses him.
>>344287596
do it, faggot
whatever class wins wont get their update for at least 2 years, and when they do it will absolutely ruin them and make them unplayable, essentially deleting their old self
team heavy
>>344287961
You forgot to mention that a medic with the blutsauger can very nearly outheal the pyro's fire, basically making them immune while killing the pyro in about a second and a half as long as they can keep hitting the needles.
>>344277252
Yeah, this guy knows.
Pyro is pretty shit without a Medic.
>>344287596
>Tfw unusual Carlton never ever
>>344282980
Boston accent
Not fucking Bronx
>>344287984
i fucking better not regret adding these funds
good thing i'm a scout main
rate mine
>>344288834
used to have the bottom set
Best scout cosmetic isHorrific Head of Hare
>>344284151
I like Overwatch but TF2 has way better characters and voice lines. Also no sound effect in OW is more satisfying then the Domination clip.
>>344286490
Its not, compfags were a pathetically small minority that valve catered to
>want to score points dor my team
>casual mode takes 30 miniutes to find a match
Why the fuck do they want my phone number?
>>344279856
>Airblasted rocket = Crit Rocket
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiot
>>344289646
this casual mode shit is a fucking trainwreck, i miss quickplay
>>344289751
For a VERY brief window i swear i remember this happening
Not him btw>>344289751
This is why TF2 still better than OW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAue43hU-M0
The matchmaking system is completely horrible. How is it acceptable that I'm tanking over a minute to find a match?
>>344289675
Steam has doubled and tripled and quadrupled up on security because retarded 12 year old fuckwads kept getting scammed. So now they've idiot proofed everything by making everything as inconvenient as possible. They want you to sign in with your phone as well as your password, among other things, like forcing you to confirm every trade on your phone before it'll go through.
>>344276947
>still playing shit fortress 2 when overwatch exists
>>344289856
It's complete shit. Overwatch deserves the appraisal it's getting.
WHO HERE /HEAVY/?
>>344289751
>>344289675
>>344289675
to make it so annoying and expensive for hackers that only the most autistic and dedicated hackers will keep doing it after they get banned
if hackers choose to verify their account with mobile number, then they have to buy a whole new SIM card and get a new number before they can hack again
either that or they have to pay 10 dollars for every time they get banned (on top of buying LMAOBOX Premium again which is like 20 dollars)
TF2 is a free to play game, so valve needs a way of stopping people just making new Steam accounts and jumping right back into competitive every time they get bannedplease appreciate this post, my internet is shithouse and captcha failed four times posting it
I think we can all agree that overwatch beats team shit 2 any day
Going team heavy
Pyro is shitfaced but Valve is probably never gonna do that level of rework.
Heavy is a one trick pony and maybe thats the point but it gets frustrating getting picked so easy.What are the chances of axtinguisher going back to its glory days?
>>344290475
>axtinguisher going back to its glory days
No fuck off
t. mad scout
Pyro needs it more and the last patch notes seemed they were going in the right direction.
Even if I like Heavy more, Valve fucking threw in the garbage two of his minguns with the last update. I don't trust them doing other "rebalances" to him.
>>344289856
Valve servers are shit
>>344290510
none.
i'm sorry but we will never get those sexy
>-195 CRITICAL HIT
markers outside of random critsit was so fun
>>344287596
>Carlton isn't all-class
One.Job.
>>344290679
I'm really glad they nerfed the brass beast, since it was such an overpowered weapon before. +60 effective health in exchange for 98% speed reduction and a four minute windup time? That's clearly way too much, +30 effective health is far more balanced.
>>344291147
I hope this is bait
>>344290510
The worst thing that the puff and sting thing did was convince certain people that it was the only legitimate way to play. I had a guy screaming at me the other day for being such a 'noob' because I was dominating his sniper ass without doing the puff and sting. Of course the puff and sting is nerfed to shit and has been for ages, and of course there's no reason to waste that much time on a defenseless weakling that'll burn in half a second with no means to defend himself, but apparently I still need to puff and sting or else I'm a scrublord faggot.
>>344290616
>>344291552
I always treated puff n sting as a crutch
>>344290616
now your just bad. out of all the classes the scout should have 0 issues with axtinguisher. Save your jump and you'll be fine, especially with the new changes to air-blasting.
>>344291552
The saddest part is this can be applied to virtually all of Pyro's kill strats. For some reason it just triggers people so hard despite them being some of the easiest things to deal with.
>>344291575
I think he responded to you by accident
Team Heavy because he needs it more.
do people still play this game
>>344276947
Heavy because it is seriously lacking weapon variety even if I play more pyro :(
![A71ED6EF7657461E028AE672F2BFF55C7869453E[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b2WUuyG.jpg "A71ED6EF7657461E028AE672F2BFF55C7869453E[1].jpg")
VOTE ME YOU BABIES
>>344290475
> playing memewatch: hardcounter extreme hitbox edition
>>344297917
I did you fat commie
>>344297917
I did.
Heavy definitely needs more weps.
>>344277089
The "class pack" it's not a fuckign rebalance you idiots, it just some weapons and a set or two, and pyro already got loads of those
> play comp game
> people cooperate
> is actually fun
wat
WHY THE FUCK CANT MY GAME FIND ANY SERVERS. IT JUST KEEPS SEARCHING FOR ETERNITY.
>>344284397
Coin flip and sudden death are removed next season :^).
>>344300158
Remember MvM day 1?
>>344300689
Still bullshit
>>344300158
The game is dead, everyone are playing Overwatch.
>>344300837
I managed to play a game of this.
Its actually fun
>yfw searching...
>>344286380
Yeah, and when that engineer wipes away atleast 150-200 health with his widow+mini sentry, you then either: 1. Run away for health/Sandvich or 2. Die to the next class that sees you.
Wow, nice 1:1 k/d you got going there.
Heavy NEEDS a medic for it to be even remotely viable, the class has absolutely no mobility and therefore no survival.
>>344302425
this
anyone and I mean anyone, can solo a single heavy. It's piss easy
Where the fuck is our Engi pack?
>>344301986
I find games in like 1-2 minutes by restricting the search to 1 gamemode. Maybe it's just me.
>>344283402
yeah, but demoman didn't get the gunboats for like five years
>>344295251
Yeah
>>344302758
It is not possible for me to restrict it to only one mode. I always need to have 2 checked
>>344302758
I've had half the time it's near instant, the other half it takes an hour.
>>344302758
you can't restrict it to one gamemode
why don't people just use the server browser?
>want to play ctf
>can only narrow down search to two game modes
>always get put into my second choice and never ctf
>>344302969
because community servers suck fucking dick, there was a reason people stopped playing them.
>>344302893
Yeah meant 2. I did 1 gamemode before because I wanted to play pass time.
>>344289991
gr8 b8 m8
>>344303121
A good community server is ten times better than a valve server clusterfuck, all it takes to find one is 30 seconds of looking on the server browser after applying filters.
In the old days, which all of /v/ seems swear to as the golden age, community servers were your only options. Think about that.
>>344303581
yeah I know, but the community was generally better back then. It got worse over time, all the good servers died, and powertripping admins and dicksucking became the norm, alongside retarded server rules. I don't want to deal with this shit anymore, valve servers were a blessing because you didn't have to deal with that shit, you join a server, it's on rotation, it's always filled, and there are always different people to play with.
>>344302758
I just did what you just said, and it's still taking 20 minutes to find one god damn server
This is fucking bullshit
>>344300837
Yep tf2 is very dead
>>344304018
matchmaking is a joke
>>344303179
is pass time even fun?
How do you play pyro in this day and age? What are the best weapons right now for him?
Last time I played (like a year ago) I used pyro to snipe FTPs with the flaregun/ scorch shot.
>>344306223
Backburner
Detonator
Homewrecker
>>344306223
degreaser, shotgun, homewrecker
be a bro to your engis, deflect shit when you need to, and have a blast with the shotgun because it's a fun viable weapon
>>344306223
Degreaser
Reserve Shooter
Powerjack
>our game is broken! but we're only going to fix one class!
Valvedrones, you guys are pathetic for supporting this shit company.
>Heavy, the face of TF2 against Pyro, the face of W+M1 shitters and horsefuckers
It's not even a fight.
>>344283813
>have to get sprays from loot boxes
>not making your own 174 frame hentai spray in shitty quality
>never knowing how it feels to when you find someone with the same preferences as you as you bond over porn
>>344304927
Yeah.
>>344306904
You should learn to read some time. I hear it's a valuable skill
>>344284665
Haven't played in a while, I know the Flare, Detonator and Scorch.
>>344307885
manmelter
>It takes Valve 9 years to add comp mode
>It takes 1 month for Blizzard
I know they pay attention to cosmeticfags the most since they're the idiots keeping the game alive but come on...
This reminds me of the War update, Soldier vs Demo. I really wanted Soldiers to lose, because their behavior during the whole thing was disgusting. And then they won because of a stupid posting and their smugness and shittery reached critical mass.
I don't care if the gunboats suck, that wasn't the point for me.
>>344308179
barely anyone asked for comp mode for TF2
that's the difference
The fuck is this? It just keeps searching for a casual match forever
I don't play Heavy anymore and I've started playing Pyro whenever I feel it's necessary but I still pick Heavy.
So like, does ranked have any function other than being ranked? Do I get special items or some shit?
>>344276947
Heavy just for the balancing.
Pyros are mostly useless, while a single heavy/medic combo can dominate an entire pub server.
>>344276947
Heavy is clearly going to win this War Update rehash.
>>344308323
I think you get badges, but yeah. Nobody is going to play it without special drops when you level up or something.
>>344308275
the gunboats are great though
>>344304326
>almost warframe-tier
wow, I knew the game was dying but I didn't know it was that bad
