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2K Japan released the next Civilization VI First Look early.https://www.youtube.


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2K Japan released the next Civilization VI First Look early.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diEavgTOIA8

Japan, led by Hojo Tokimune.
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Unique Ability: Meiji Restoration - Extra bonuses for Districts built next to each other.

Leader Ability: Divine Wind - Land units get a combat bonus for fighting next to the coast, Naval units get a combat bonus for fighting in shallow water tiles.

Unique Unit: Samurai - don't lose combat strength when they take damage. (Unlocked by Military Tactics technology)

Unique Building: Electronics Factory - (replaces Factory in Industrial Zone Districts) provides bonus Production and Culture to nearby cities (not just its home city).
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>>344262012
>not "Divine Wind- Air Units can blow themselves up for the glory of the Emperor, automatically killing the unit they are attacking"

Jesus japan, this is your own history
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>>344261989
>>344262012
no Gundam Statue wonder - no sale
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why does the leader have the triforce on him
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>>344262480
That's the clan symbol of the Hojo broseph.
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>>344261989

He looks like leatherman from the thumbnail
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>>344262480
>He didn't play Sengoku Rance

I hate normies.
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>>344262235
The original Divine Wind was the typhoon that helped the Japanese (lead by Hojo Tokimune) push back the Mongol invasions. I like this one better since it's related to the leader.
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>>344261989
Once again the Japanese seem strong, but at least they don't have that stupid fucking Bushido Code again.

Holy shit.
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>>344262529
Why is the clan symbol of the Hojo a Triforce? Do they have Hyrulian blood?
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>>344262480
He's Zelda
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>>344262639
Bushido is the name of Tokimune's A.I. Leader Agenda - he likes Civs that have a strong military but only if they also have a strong faith and/or culture, too.
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>>344262012
>unique ability Meiji Restoration
>not just having Meiji as your leader

Do the Nips hate him or something? Japan's sudden industrialisation in the 19th century is pretty crazy. I don't think any country has gone from being a backwards feudal kingdom, to a modern industrial state as quickly as Japan. Apart from you know, apart from areas that get colonised.
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>>344261989
Oh hey, one of the least impressive Shoguns in all of history.

Come the fuck on, at least give us someone exciting or maybe even did something, like Kiyomori Taira.
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Pretty shit to be honest. A far cry from Bushido.
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>>344262994
My guess is love and hate since he let in the Gaijin and forced Japan to stop fucking their cousins and actually do something in the world.
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>nu male narrating the video
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>>344262994
the secret is that japan was colonized by the west as well
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>>344262994
Many civs have their unique units/abilities/buildings from a variety of time periods. For example, Civ V Germany has their UA from Roman era, UB from early modern and UUs from early modern and WW2 respectively.
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>>344263152
its female you idiot, this "nu-male" meme is dumb too, what happened to just calling them fags?
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>her face when
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>>344261989
Hojo's background looks a lot better than the other three.
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>>344261989
why is he wearing the triforce on his shirt? zelda reference?
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>>344263263
Why am I getting a Jessica Lange feeling from her.
Old women trying to act sexy and confusing my boner.
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>>344263263
why are they using Cleopatra again? not only is she greek, she is also completely unimpressive as a leader, all she did is try to maneuver around Rome and fail

its as fucking dumb as using Boudica for the Celts
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>>344263229
you mean cucks?
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>>344263384
They wanted her because it was easier to come up with a leader agenda for her than for Hatshepsut I guess.
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>>344263384
They probably don't want to have every single Civilization headed by a man.
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I want that fucking music they use in these trailers. It sounds so nice.
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>>344263384
they basically want "big personalities" this time

I mean I'd prefer Hatshepsut but this is the hand dealt

Maybe there'll be Leader DLC for the popular ones that didn't make it in later
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>>344263186
well yeah, they had the french, murricans and british meddling in their affairs, pushing them into the future, but they didn't get the India treatment.

Call me a dirty weeb, but the Meiji restoration is pretty inspiring.
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>>344263384
Supposedly because "maneuvering around Rome" is the kind of personality they want to give to the AI.
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>>344261989
>repelled the Mongol invasion

oh I didn't know this man was literally the weather :)
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>>344263263
How on earth did they manage to make a Cleopatra I don't want to fuck?
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>>344263384
To be fair Rameses II like won one battle by sheer luck and accidently then went on to build shit and they called him one of the best leaders.
Egypt didn't really have amazing leaders which is why they got taken over all the time.
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>>344263536
Well his ability is called "Divine Wind"
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>>344263263
I'm still questioning a lot of things about this game, but at least the porn's got plenty of fuel.
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>>344261989

>Hojo literally who
>Not Emperor Jimmu
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>>344261989
More like Who jo Tokimune? Am I right guys?
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Hitler fucking when
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>>344263476
>not having a religion pushing leader who is also big on progression and building and is also apt to break promises and trade agreements
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>>344263671
~100 years from now when we got rid of all the jewss
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>>344262647

Seriously go fuck yourself
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>>344262994
>Do the Nips hate him or something?

No, the nips love Meiji - japanese opinion on the samurai was that they were corrupt.

You can't have Meiji as leader of the Japanese civ if Samurai & Military is what your going for however. Blame firaxis
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>>344263536
Mongol/Yuan/Korean troops did land on two separate invasions and Hojo was well-prepared the second time around with extensively fortified coast and such like (which prevented Mongols from landing and left them vulnerable when kamikaze came months later). It's not like the Japanese didn't see any fighting, although typhoons did obviously help.
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More things spotted in the video:

Quadrireme sighted. Ranged unit, stronger than "Galley."
Ethnic unit graphics
Swordsmen 35 base strength, Pikemen 35 base strength, Samurai 45 base strength
Eureka for Nationalism is to declare war with a Casus Belli
Theatre Square Festival project
Campus Research Grant project
Horsemen require 2 horses?
Factories look like they unlock at Industrialization (Eureka: Build 3 workshops)
Pastures and camps unlock at Animal Husbandry
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When will they show Atlantis?
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>>344263384
Cleopatra wasn't Greek
she spoke Greek
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>>344263928

Shes was a descendant of Alexander
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>>344263671
what would his power be? fail spectacularly and be so edgy about it that you shit up europe forever?

>>344263683
I wanted Akhenaten too
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>>344263659
Pretty fucking much.

He did literally nothing for 18 years, only managed to repel two invasions because of luck and the fact mongols are fucking stupid and sent riverboats across the ocean, then died just after turning 31 while waiting for a third invasion that never happened.

They literally could have chosen the 14 year old emperor and it would have been a much more interesting choice.
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>>344263928
No, she was a member of Ptolemaic dynasty founded by Alexander the Great's general Ptolemy.
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>>344263963
she was born in egypt. her parents were egyptian. she was egyptian.
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>>344263928
She was literally part of a Greek racist elite and descended from one of Alexander's generals
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>>344264051

>Cleopatra was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Macedonian Greek[3] origin that ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period.

GREEK
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Who will be the Chinese leader this time and how could they pick anyone but Qin?
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>>344263851

Correction, the mongols did land, pillages a few villages too on the second invasion. But they lacked men to push forward.

Then the weather fucked them.
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>>344264123
god you're stupid
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>>344264051
They literally interbred to avoid becoming Egyptian.

Just because you were born in London doesn't make you are English Mohammed
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Should've done Ieyasu Tokugawa
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>>344264090
Just like the USA is populated mostly by redskin Native Americans dancing around totem poles
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>>344264137
It's Qin Shi Huang, China is going to be wonder-focused civ
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>>344264158

Sure kid
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>>344264176
*mean
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>>344264210
name calling is the foundation of all arguments, so go fuck yourself idiot
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>>344264123

If your parents are both American

and move to Bali

you are born afterwards

what does that make you?

Balinese, not American

You are Balinese of American descent

She is EGYPTIAN OF GREEK DESCENT
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>>344264194
>China is going to be wonder-focused civ

>Fused a few broken walls together
>Built a couple of terracotta statues for the lulz
>""""""""""""""""""""world wonders""""""""""""""""""""

Oh shit nigga what are you doing? Just give them a million food boosts.
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>>344264051
Don't pull this you little shit. Ethnically she was Greek and from a dyntasty largely divorced from the people of Egypt, you know exactly what people are objecting too.
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>>344263897
I think Atlantis might actually be one of the random Continent names. I know Lemuria is one.
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>>344264180

Why? Iesayu was a shitter who closed the entire country.

He was good at diplomacy, but he was a xenophobic asshat who sent Japan into a dark age,
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>>344264262
She's a whore and a traitor who killed the rightful Pharaoh and ensured Egypt would never have any bit of autonomy ever again.
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>>344263384
WE
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>>344264158
haha
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>>344264262
Calm down Mohammed, we don't need another shooting today
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I can't believe it's not Lizzy.
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>>344264328
>sent Japan into a dark age

Not really. yeah the country stagnated the whole time, but it was peaceful, there wasn't any rampant diseases, people weren't being burned at the stake, etc etc.
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>>344264365
Really makes you think, huh?
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>>344264328
>the "isolationism is bad" meme
lol. europe was colonizing the world and setting up puppet governments the world over, telling them to fuck off was a good move
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>>344264328
More like a golden age of peace and prosperity. And then they just westernized in 20 years anyway so who cares?

Hell, they westernized so fast that they were able to go full imperial mode against China before shit went down.
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>>344264441

I should have specified a technological dark age
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>>344264463
I unironically liked that movie
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>>344264328
he was an awesome trump though.
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>>344264508

Its a good movie

Jap's hated it though
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>>344264328
Edo was a cultural golden age, dont be silly
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>>344262012
Divine Wind is OP.

Nerf Nippon
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>>344264262
You're not even an Indonesian citizen
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>>344264508
>yfw tom cruise wasn't the last samurai
>yfw samurai is plural
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>>344262539
F U C K Y O U
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>>344264564

I think he meant moved permanently, not visited and happened to be born during the trip

that's a whole different ballgame
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>>344264508
yeah. the concept is stupid but it's still one of my favorites
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Honestly they should just turn this whole area into a Cuck civilization because every fucking empire in history seems to have owned it. Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Sassanids, Arabs, Mongols, Timurids, Safavid, Ottomans, England and basically everyone but the Swedes.
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>>344264572
>yfw samurai is plural

People don't seem to understand that when they shit on The Last Samurai
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>>344264456
>>344264463

250 years later, but okay.
Name one good thing that came out of the Edo period. One thing at all,
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>>344264547
Because of a dirty gaijin as the lead? The glorification of samurai?
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>>344264682

probably race mixing
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>>344264508
On the surface it's very JUST

But in reality it's a fine piece detailing the destruction of culture and heritage in favor of progress and machinery

If that doesn't get to you on some level, you're probably not entirely human anymore
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>>344264682
>The glorification of samurai?

That, right there. Samurai of the Meiji period are understood by modern japanese as being corrupt warmongers, and getting rid of the caste system was a very good thing. The real life Satsuma Rebellion was about very different politics, and Jap's who watched Last Samurai hated the fact that the movie made samurai into virtue paragons who were fighting against the greedy corrupt meiji govt.
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>>344264664
you're the one who brought up that was it bad. why don't you name something actually bad about it? other than "my poor christian monks aren't allowed in :( pls convert"
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>>344264664
All those people not suffering and dying in warfare?

I think the only people who didn't like Edo were the Samurai because fighting and writing poetry about fighting was literally all they did.
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>>344263263
That looking down at your penis and heavy eye makeup. This is my civ 6 trashy mistress.
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>>344264682
Because the jap samurai leader guy is a half-Japanese mutt.
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>>344264441
>>344264456
Isolationism IS bad, Europe intervening everywhere is the reason it was wealthy and powerful while Japs were busy being backwards monkeys

US became the superpower it is today by constantly sticking their fingers into everyone elses business
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>yfw no Gandhi

Do they have balls to do it?
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>>344264779
>"my poor christian monks aren't allowed in :( pls convert"

People don't realize this, but Ieaysu booted out the Christians because the Portuguese Jesuits were trying to influence and control the country. Christian converts were being openly encouraged to rebel against the rule of the Shogunate, and causing death and discord.

Kicking the entire religion out was actually a good thing.
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>>344264772
Literally a nation born of plebs. Didn't reformed Samurai do tons of useful shit like start a hundred of the companies that are still globally active?
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I can't even play Civ5 anymore because it looks like dogshit compared to this game. I used to think civ5 was comfy. Now I don't have a comfy 4x game to play.
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>>344264879
>Europe intervening everywhere
great for europe, not for the smaller countries they tried to meddle with. such as japan.
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>>344264879

Yeah, you outed yourself.
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>>344264879
And now they're getting gunned down on the streets while the japanese don't even loot during disasters. What went wrong?
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>>344264879
Thats only happens when you're yhe one doing the imperializing
What do you think it was going to happen if Japan stayed open?
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>>344262994
Do Japanese gamers even play CIV?
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>>344264991
Actually Japan and Thailand ended up with a massive net gain thanks to Europeans fucking everyone else way harder. How else do you think a worthless island like Japan was shitting all over a massive empire like China a century later?
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>>344264907
>People don't realize this
I'm pretty sure most people realize this. The first step to colonizing a country was setting up a strong christian base.
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>>344264907
>Jesuits

Every fucking time.
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>>344264923

Its not the people, its the caste system.

Prior to the Tokugawa shogunate, there was still room for peasants to become samurai, provided reasons. Hideyoshi was a farmer who became leader of Japan prior to Ieayasu.

But throughout the Edo period, the caste system became ironclad, and this is what modern day japanese resent about the Samurai
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>>344264879
>be american
>get stoped by police man
>its nothing big, routine check
>do what policeman is telling me
>get shot anyway
>die
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>>344264779
>>344264791

How about the thousands of now unemployed ronin wandering the land and bullying and killing the peasants?
Maybe the rise of yakuza style gangs that lorded over areas with shady gambling practices and debt collecting?
Maybe the absolute technological stagnation of Japan that left them 200 years behind the rest of the world?

In the early 1800s, the Japanese were still living in wood and straw huts.
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>>344265127
Why are Japanese plebs so evil and vindictive? Even POO THE LOO was able to take a far more rigid caste system in good stride for the sake of their nation's prosperity.
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>>344265136

>"officer, i want you to know, i have a license to carry a firearm, and i have a pistol"
>get shot by cop
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>>344265081
the only reason the japan after the edo period was able to modernize so easily was thanks to the confucius spirit of duty and hard work that the edo period worked to cultivate thanks to the unprecedented era of peace which let their philosophers and artists take the reigns for a while. the edo period basically set up the modern japanese work ethic that we know today
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>>344265019
the Japanese only achieved their current level of developement AFTER they opened up though, for fucks sake they were still using antiquated musket designs they copied from the Portuguese when the rest of the world had rifles and steam powered ships

>>344265058
>What do you think it was going to happen if Japan stayed open?
same thing that happened to it eventually, they would quickly catch up and be a respectable state
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>>344264430
Who the hell is that?
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>>344265231
>"officer, i want you to know, i have a license to carry a firearm, and i have a pistol"
>ok put your hands up
>ok mr. policeman, i will put my hands up
>get shot by cop
>why did you shot him mr. policeman?
>he started moving his hands
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>>344265175
>thousands of now unemployed ronin
jesus christ how horrifying, out of 30 million there were a tiny minority of disgruntled people who couldn't fight anymore. still better than millions of soldiers killing each other and burning cities to the ground.
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>>344265320

Police lives matter!
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>>344265286
>when the rest of the world had rifles and steam powered ships

You mean Europe while the rest of the world was being blown to pieces by them

Always amazed me why the Europeans left Japan relatively alone. You can't say they were beneath them because those invasive fuckers colonized every bit of blood-soaked soil on the planet.
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>>344264904
Gandhi is de facto confirmed already.
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>>344265175
>In the early 1800s, the Japanese were still living in wood and straw huts.
even the in the early 20th century actually, Tokyo was mostly wooden when the US was bombing it
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>>344265318
queen victoria. she actually looked like that
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>>344265407

Nothing gained in invading Japan.

Everything Japan could offer, they were already getting from every other asian country
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>all that talking about Japan
Gonna watch Letters of Iwo Jima tonight and have a pizza.
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>>344264646
But Germany never owned it, neither did the Chinese. Rome only controlled the part close to water.
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>>344265320
>Dindu steals a pack of smokes
>Police car rams down 18 school children on the way to stop him
>Dindu charged for 18 cases of manslaughter
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>>344265318
Queen Victoria.
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>>344265407
Cause Japan are honorary Whites & would have colonized heaps of Asia if the the goyims didn't stop em
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>>344264904
Gandhi is in
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>>344263540
>How on earth did they manage to make a Cleopatra I don't want to fuck?
Archaeologists have found that she wasn't that beautiful IRL. It is Hollywood that made her hot.
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>>344265472
Oh sweet we are getting Queen Victoria as a leader

Despite the fact that the Queen diden't rule shit during her time, it was all the parlament. But hey it's Queen Victoria
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>>344265535
They tried that
The Koreans BTFO them
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>>344265502
>tfw the USA bombed Afghanistan literally back to the stone age

Did they deserve it?
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>>344265318
Third most powerful woman in history (after Angela Merkel and Boudicca).
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>>344265535
more like china was too busy fighting each other to ever turn their attention on japan. its a good thing the west stepped in after ww2 or they would've been absolutely fucked once mao took over.
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Day one pirate
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>>344265657
How about Wu Zetian
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>>344264547
>Jap's hated it though
source please
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>>344265665
>its a good thing the west stepped in for ww2 or China would've been absolutely fucked once the Japanese took over.

Fixed
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>>344265698
She's fifth after Margaret Thatcher.
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>>344265217
being oppressed by samurai's sucks
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>>344265735
the japanese never stood a chance against a unified china, which was an inevitability with modernization. they were trying to get china hooked on drugs but that was a pretty stupid idea for a country of billions
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>>344265320
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>policeman shot a guy that was selling his music
>guy is dead
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>police shot the guy because he told the policeman he had a gun and he didnt want no trouble
>guy is dead
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>5 policeman killed 11 injured
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on the news
>"guns ban is bad, we wont do it"
what the fuck america?
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MANSA MUSA WHEN?
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>>344265814

China wasn't unified in 35. If the US hadn't embargo'd the Japanese, they would have overrun China within the next 5 years.
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>>344265735
>once the Japanese took over.
They only really managed to take the coast before being bogged down. They wouldn't have been able to hold China even after the Chinese government surrendered. Fighting against guerrilla tactics in a country of 800 million people wouldn't work.
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>>344261989
>do voiceover for japanese trailer
>butcher every pronunciation
BRAVO
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>>344263263
She looks like Caesar in drag.
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>>344261989
I like that they managed to incorporate Japan's island nature as well as their population density.
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>>344265987
>They only really managed to take the coast before being bogged down

You must have completely forgotten the part where Japan owned Manchuria completely, and was using it as a staging ground for further land invasion
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>>344264365
>Rightful Pharaoh

He was a puppet propped up by thr clergy, and she didnt do much besides not be the one who offerended Caesar and then impressed him with her cunning and dick sucking abilities

The Romans then proceeded to wreck everyone and install Cleopatra, t. History of Rome blog
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>>344265983
which may have just unified china faster. the only thing stopping the japanese lines from being overrun were civil wars being fought in other parts of the country. and even then being sent to those front lines was literally a death sentence for japanese soldiers. it wasn't sustainable by any stretch of the imagination, but the leaders back home had their heads in the clouds
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>>344265071
Everyone plays Civ. Even someone living in a shithole like I do. Fuck the Community Balance Patch for constantly crashing
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>>344265987
>>344265987
Speaking of small islands taking up larger portions of land than they really ought to, how did the British ever manage to take and hold their empire?
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>>344265657
>Boudicca
stop this, all she did is sack two undefended cities and lose spectacularly despite the immense numerical advantage when she went up against a proper roman force

that woman is a meme
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>>344263263
more female leaders when

the way they're doing cleo i wouldn't mind if the gane was all female leaders
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>>344266131
>Speaking of small islands taking up larger portions of land than they really ought to, how did the British ever manage to take and hold their empire?
For a while they had the best navy in the world.
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>>344266131

Navy and Commerce
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>>344266157
>set up wagons behind your troops to prevent them from running
>they start getting slaughtered
>run away yourself
kek
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>>344266180
So? Spain had the best navy and still got BTFO by an inferior navy.

I think it was mostly luck and genocide. Lots of both.
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>>344266157
>all she did is sack two undefended cities
That's two cities more than any other female leader managed.
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>may-gee restoration
Stopped watching there. It hurts so fucking much.
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>>344266246
british troops with guns and loads of experience putting down natives. there's a reason british troops in civ 6 get to attack for free after disembarking, they've just done it so much its second nature to them
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>>344266086

Sorry, I was forgetting about Manchuria, but even taking that into account, they were still only controlling roughly 1/6th of China, and "control" isn't even the right word considering there was so much resistance in those occupied areas that the only way the Japanese could deal with it was to apply their Three Alls tactics (Kill all, burn all, loot all). They would've never been able to hold all of China.

>>344266131
Massive focus on Navy. All modern major empires were naval powers.
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>>344266246
>So? Spain had the best navy and still got BTFO by an inferior navy.
If they got beaten then they weren't be best, were they?
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>>344266405
best equipment and numbers, inferior tactics and leadership. same reason france lost to germany despite technically having a massive numerical advantage in both troops and (at the time) superior tanks
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>>344266180
>>344266204
>>344266337
So was it a matter of I'll just blockade the shit out of you, if you don't agree with me?
They also seemed a decent job at managing to levy troops out of a native population, which was like, how?
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Assuming these aren't actually all different units, it seems as though there are culture groups for unit skins.
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>>344266246

Spain built a massive navy, became powerful and then just rested on it's laurels. When the Americans engaged the Spanish fleet in the 19th century they fucked them up big time with way less ships since the Spanish never bothered to improve their ships.
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>>344265507
I only know of the old version
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>>344266489
Because that's totally the conflict we were talking about.

Anyway, war is mostly about skill. The Ottomans was the greatest naval force until they fucked up by Cyprus and all their experienced sailors got BTFO. They never recovered.
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>>344266475
>They also seemed a decent job at managing to levy troops out of a native population, which was like, how?

Ezy
>find major ruling power in a new territory
>find all the smaller peoples that despise them/were hurt by them/hate them
>promise them to remove said major power
>make alliance

The same way the Spanish beat the Aztecs with only 500 men. They allied with all the other natives around the area who were sick of the Aztec's shit.
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>>344266605
You forgot the last step

>Fuck everyone over
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>>344266475
>So was it a matter of I'll just blockade the shit out of you, if you don't agree with me?
The whole point of Empires is the ability to send troops anywhere in your realm. This meant building roads for the Roman Empire. But when you talk about an Empire spanning the globe, it means warships and troop transports. Empires need force projection. When USA declared independence, the British contested it by sending an army. The ABILITY to send that army is dependent on having a navy.
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>>344266605
but aztecs were muh noble savages :(
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>>344266670

Well yea, can't have those savage "allies" become the next regional power.
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>>344266718
not unless they convert anyways
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>>344266747

Even then, better fuck them over just in case.
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>>344266487
they all have same icon so they're the same unit. seems like they're taking cards from most popular mods and civ alternatives. i'm glad.
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>>344266775
well at that point they're basically feudal peasants like the ones you have back home, so yeah you fuck them over but you do it with taxes and levies instead of small pox and blankets
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I thought they were supposed to have 2 unique units, one related to the civ and one related to the leader. Since Roosevelt has Rough Riders and there's also a p-51 mustang.
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>>344266680
Nothing savage about the Aztecs, they were educated, cultured and civilized. They only killed people because they thought it was keeping doomsday at bay, as did everyone else in the region.
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>>344266873
>pagans
>not savage
uhhh
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>>344262994
IIRC using Meiji will anger Koreans and Chinese because of Sino-Japanese war.
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>>344261989
>Hojo Tokimune

literally who
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>>344265081
Yeah, imagine if it is China that modernize first. Japan will be another star on China flag. And China might actually own more stars that USA.
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>>344266920
So chinese were savage?
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>>344266680
Being noble is one thing, but they weren't savages (in the sense of primitive group of people without proper civilization). For starters, Tenochtitlan was one of the largest cities at the time (only rivalled by the likes of Paris and Venice in Europe and modern-day Nanjing, Bejing and Guangzhou in China) built on artificial island with urban planning superior to its contemporaries.
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>>344266993
Is that even a question?
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>>344266970

China couldn't have modernized while it was under Qing rule. Those guys couldn't even keep their Ming-era technology running.
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I really want to f*ck Victoria.
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>>344266993

Everyone that isn't a White European (and even then white=/=white) is a savage.
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>>344267085
I don't think my dick will handle any leader in this game, the animations they're showing are sexual af.
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>>344266845
Ed Beach actually said most Civs would only have one Unique Unit, and in Teddy's case it's technically his personal Unique Unit (so, theoretically, if you could mix and match Leaders, you could have Spanish Rough Riders) anyway.
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>>344261989
>H*jo
yikes
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>>344262614
>he didn't know basic history before playing a videogame

I hate retards.
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>>344267197
japanese clans heraldy isn't by any means basic history.
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>>344264430
Looks like Wallace and Grommit. What the fuck even.
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>>344267117
muh white mans burden
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>>344267019
In a way they're still superior to us because they somehow made death seem like an awesome prospect. I'm deathly afraid of dying and so are most westerners because we were only taught that there was a granddad in heaven, and that turned out to be bullshit so now we have nothing left.
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I hope they don't go full retard and make something like Poland or Babylon along with something like Iroquois or Venice.
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>>344266475
It's basically what they threatened to do to the German Empire

The German Empire started building a navy so it could protect itself from that kind of threat and look where it is now.
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>>344266157
a meme with too little porn
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>>344267117
>this is what white """"""""""people"""""""""" actually believe
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>>344267490
>The German Empire started building a navy so it could protect itself from that kind of threat
Yeah which is why the navy sat and did nothing during World War 1

On the Keisers orders
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>>344267624
Well, those dreadnoughts were too expensive to lose!
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>>344265880
>Policeman shot a guy
>Police shot the guy because...
>Guy shoots police

guis, guis, it's al te guns falt.
Sure helped France, right? Right?
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>>344262328

Respect the robot
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>>344267665
They were. They lost the Bismarck in WW2 during some unimportant skirmish.

Naval combat sucks, in Civ and IRL. The only part of naval combat in history that's even the slightest bit interesting was the Titanic's sister ship which was completely fucking unsinkable and rammed other boats into submission for the entirety of the war.
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>>344267525
>you will never go down on her red unkempt pubes

why even live t b h
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>>344261989

>japan led by a literal who instead of the one true god Toyotomi

Shit game
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>>344267624
It never got to be as large as the British navy
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>>344263384

They wanted big personalities

At least they aren't lying about why they pick dumb shit ones like Cleopatra

More name recognition then actual history

Unless you're a man then they pick Hojo no-one has ever heard of him even most Japanese people unless they paid attention in history class.
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>>344267665
It was even more expensive to let them do nothing
>>344265504
Seriously?
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>>344264051

>her parents were Egyptian

You mean the inbred ones who kept it in the family purely to NOT become Egyptian?
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>>344267947
>Unless you're a man then they pick Hojo no-one has ever heard of him even most Japanese people unless they paid attention in history class.
They wanted to pick someone who modernised Japan. They want both Japan's past and present represented, and you really can't get anyone more recent than Hojo. Too recent past WW2 and no one would know who they are, and anyone related to War on the Pacific is too political.
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>>344264430

>"England" civ
>Queen of Great Britain

:^)
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>>344267947
There was a decently successful TV drama about him from 2001. Not saying it would put him at the forefront of the Japanese zeitgeist but it probably helps cultural awareness at least a little bit.
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>>344265127

HIDEYOSHI ENFORCED THE CLASS SYSTEM YOU MONG

NOT TOKUGAWA
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>>344267624

SMS Emden
>>
Who will lead Germoney this time?
Bismarck?
Willy?
Frederick?
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>>344267773

>In the early hours of 12 May 1918, while en route for France with US troops under the command of Captain Hayes, Olympic sighted a surfaced U-boat 500 m (1,600 ft) ahead.[60] Her gunners opened fire at once, and she turned to ram the submarine, which immediately crash dived to 30 m (98 ft) and turned to a parallel course. Almost immediately afterwards Olympic struck the submarine just aft of her conning tower and her port propeller sliced through U-103's pressure hull. The crew of U-103 blew her ballast tanks, scuttled and abandoned the submarine.Olympic did not stop to pick up survivors, but continued on to Cherbourg. Meanwhile, the USS Davis had sighted a distress flare and picked up 31 survivors from U-103. Olympic returned to Southampton with at least two hull plates dented and her prow twisted to one side, but not breached.[61]

Fucking.
Badass.
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>>344264184
only one kind of natives make totem poles and its in alaska
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>>344263384
>Boudica for the Celts
Speaking of which, please Firaxis, if you're going to use the Celts please don't use fucking Boudicca again
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>>344268126

MEIJI
E
I
J
I
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>>344267773
Hey now hunting u boats can be fun

And destroying everyone with an u boat is also fun
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>>344262012
>in shallow water tiles.
>in

Neat
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>>344268428
I assume that's just coastal tiles. As opposed to ocean ones.
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>>344264270
>what is the grand canal
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>>344266925
Who cares about Gooks? Tenno Heika Banzai, ok.
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>>344267363
>>344267595
Shitskins leave this place
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>>344268381
this
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>>344268710
I think a neat thing about it is that it's not purely defensive - invading by sea means hitting other shallows and taking a beachhead, so the Japanese are also good at naval-based expansion.
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>>344264430
>>344263263
Looks like shit, the Female Civs in 5 were definitely more fappable than these. Wouldn't want to see an SFM Porn of.
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>>344269127
Shitskins were building empires while the savage white man was fucking dogs in the ass.

Seriously, civilizations and empires did not start in Europe.
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>>344266337
They held the important east coast of China. Also Mao was a cunt who just sat it out while the rest fought the invaders.
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*unsheathes western enlightenment*
*teleports thru samurai*

owari da.... samurai-kun.........

*teleports away*
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>>344263263
SEMEN
DEMON
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>>344261989
When's Australia
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>>344268126
>you really can't get anyone more recent than Hojo

There's like, 7 big name options after 1300 AD
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>>344269571
HE'S FAST!
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>>344269254
>Shitskins were building empires
Mesopotamia etc were germanic though
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>>344267842
>Toyotomi
>Not Nobunaga

You are shit
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>>344270003
>Nobunaga
>Not Iwata of the Nintendo Empire

You're shit
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>>344270003
>>344270003

You mean that guy who FAILED to unify Japan ? lmaoing at your life

He was also a FAG!!
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>>344262647
http://zeldauniverse.net/2010/11/15/of-samurais-and-dragons-origins-of-the-triforce-part-1/
Miyamoto likes to sneak Japanese cultural shit in his games. Also See: the origins of Star Fox and all those archways you can fly through.
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>>344270124
Being a fag was a cultural thing in Japan at the time, just like with the Ancient Greeks. It's not blameworthy like it is now.
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>>344270189

If he wasn't such a fag he might have unified Japan.

Toyotomi banged CHIKZ ONLY

No dicks for this super stud
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>Japan
>Counts as a civilization
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>>344270261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkfQP2KeMPo
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>>344261989
>tfw the thumbnail looks like Van Darkholme
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>>344270160
Is Miyamoto born of superior Samurai genes or is his heritage that of a pleb?
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>>344265605
Kek proof that France is literally African.
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>>344269254
And look where you are now? You boost of your desert shitholes while the Chinese been building on their Empire for a few thousand years while you gone backwater, having tribal and sect warfare.
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>>344261989
>I'm the boss of this civ
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>>344268253
If they're going for recognizable big names then it's probably Hitler
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>>344264923
Yeah, the reformed Samurai.

The protagonists of The Last Samurai were the ones who didn't want to give up the old system.
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>>344270529
>DEEP DARK FANTASY DLC
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>>344268253
>>344270613
>tfw probably not Willy
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>>344268253
>>344270761
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>>344268253
Suleiman I
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>>344270613
>>344268253
>>344270761
>inb4 they pull a total dark horse and make it Hindenburg

He ran the country on two separate occasions. If they're going for new leaders, he's perfect for it.
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>>344261989
>US company
trash
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>>344271101
Ran it into the ground. I'd rather have Ebert or Stresemann. Maybe even Brüning. But that would just lead to everyone being confused
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>>344271101
>>344271342
Literally just do Otto I.
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>>344268253
If they are going for personality over success or whatever, then Wilhelm II is probably theb est choice.
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>>344270613
They couldn't release the game in Germany without changing the whole leader if it had Hitler in it, it's not likely going to happen.
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>>344264430
is that chin BALLS?
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>>344270613
Considering they went for Whojo for Japan, that's never going to happen
>>
Civ is dead
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>>344271481
Yes they can, can't show any Swastikas though.
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>>344269871
I SAY WE WERE PERSIANS AND STUFF
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>>344271342
Give the old man some credit, he was holding the reigns at like 80 years old because Germans are too incompetent to look after their own country.
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>>344271574
It'll be more alive than ever if 6 is as good as it looks.
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>>344269871
>Mesopotamia etc were germanic
autism
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>>344271612
They genuinely can't if it has Hitler in it. Video games are classified as toys and if you want to sell a toy it can't have any likeness to that period of time.
Hearts of Iron 4 had that problem.
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>>344271664
t. shill
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will there be a native american civ
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>>344271697
>They genuinely can't if it has Hitler in it.
Wrong. Can't have swastikas and some other nazi symbols though
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>>344271748
hopefully not
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>>344271748
Aztecs are the only acceptable natives.
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>>344261989
>with Civ VI we will focus more on famous personalities rather than important figures
>let's pick the guy nobody knows about

Nobunaga might not be especially unique, but at least he's more impressionable.
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>>344271748
Probable like 3 of them.

Gotta have all the natives and Africans even though their civs were fucking irrelevant to history. Don't want to be racist.
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>>344269208

And land units get bonus for fighting NEXT to the coast. So again, invading with marines from the water to the coast should give them a bonus.

So, in a way, the Divine Wind ability also refers to WW2 Japans war strategy.
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>>344266925
Koreans are already angry because Japan exist in Civilization and is more relevant than them
>Meiji is too much
>Mao is perfectly fine though!
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>>344271342
they're way too obscure to be leaders in civ
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>>344271342
>Literally whos
Maybe go with Kaiser Wilhelm instead
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>>344272232
Has Korea, EVER been relevant? I mean, I do have a Samsung tv and phone but beside that? WTF do they do, beside making middle class cheap electronics and having industries (like all their fucking neighbours)
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>>344271984
>Don't want to be racist.
Holy fuck, look at this stormfronter.
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>>344272027
The Divine Wind was a storm that literally blew away the invading Mongol ships one two different occasions.
The suicide plane attacks was nationalist propaganda where the pilots were the representation of the Divine Wind.
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>>344272289
Since when has that stopped Firaxis?
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>>344261989
Why does this fucker looks so much like that one guy from the Batsu games with a long chin?
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>>344272418

Samsung electronics are shit. Had a monitor and a phone and they both abruptly stopped working after a little over a year.

>>344272524

Yeah, I get that, I'm just saying that because the ability allows for an advantage in naval invasion warfare, you can see how the name is also somewhat of a reference to WW2 Imperial Japan.
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>>344270761

>tfw Russia will never get Nicky
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>>344272559
Japanese arr rook same.
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>>344272418
Outside the few years when Sejong ruled. Nope.

They have pretty much always been the big toe of China, and I'm saying this as a massive koreaboo. Historically they are sort of irrelevant for the most part.

The few times they have been relevant it's been more because their actions made other countries react. Like how the US revolution stirred up the French revolution which changed the course Europe's history.

Like how a failed invasion of Korea helped ruined the Sui dynasty or how a failed invasion put a stop to Japans empire dreams until the restoration.

Still a fucking interesting country, but for the most part their history is only really relevant to themselves. Sort of like Japan pre-industrialization.
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>>344272910
His dad was much better.
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>>344272910
>tfw we couldn't protect their smiles
Where did it all go so wrong, lads?
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>>344272559
TOKIMUNE. THAI KIKKU!
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>>344272968
Alexander III was build like a fucking bear.
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>>344272910
>lost his fucking empire
>>344272968
>big guy who did nothing important and almost died in a train accident
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>>344272978
They thought that being a monarch was worth jack shit but at the same time did not come from England. Pretty stupid error, tbhonest.
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>>344272910
As long as it ain't Peter the Great I'm happy. That guy triggers me.
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>>344272952
>a massive koreaboo
Why? Unless you're ancestrally Korean or something, I can't imagine anyone taking an interest in such a boring country. They have no history of note, they butchered their own language to conform better with the west, and all the people are plastic facsimiles.
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>>344273116
javla sverige
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>>344271342
Not to mention, at that point, your definition of "historical accomplishments" basically becomes "ensure country didn't implode quite as badly as in the last economic crisis, didn't fuck up as much as Hindenburg/von Schleicher".

>>344268253
If it's as much of a historical mishmash as their list of uniques is making it out to be, then perhaps there's some hope for Karl der Groß.
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>>344273116
As long as it ain't Catherine I'm happy. That horse whore cunt triggers me. Literally got carried by Souvorov, gg.
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>>344272910
>Have protesting crowd
LMAO JUST SHOOT THEM
>Leave St. Petersburg to join fighting in WW1
LMAO I'LL LEAVE MY WIFE, A GERMAN, IN CHARGE
>Replace the much loved Nikolaevich with himself to lead troops
WOW WHY DO I KEEP LOSING WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ME
>Wife begs for your return just before the revolution
NO LOL THOSE PEOPLE SUCK
>>
Since they seem to be emphasizing the leader and not just the nation are they going to add more leaders? Maybe like Leif Erickson for the vikings with bonuses to exploration and settling on different continents, and Harald Bluetooth with bonuses to religion or something.

>tfw find out that the electronic bluetooth was named after him and the bluetooth logo is the runes for H and B
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>>344273154
Must be K-pop faggot.
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>>344273281
Erikson never led any country. You could have Harald or Knut though.
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>>344273154
I don't know. I just find it interesting. I find pretty much all East Asian countries interesting for that matter. They just have a neat history I think.
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>>344272418
Uhh K Pop I guess.
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>>344273243
>get back the Ruhrgebiet
>btfo commies and assblasted reactionaries
>save the German economy
>reconcile with France
>do a shit ton to end the political isolation of Germany
Stresemann was based
>>
>queen vicky leading England/UK again
>we will never have another UK civ under Churchill

Feels pretty bad. Granted, in this case it makes sense, since this version of England is focused on Victorian-style overseas imperialism and museums. Still kind of annoying that we're always going to get this treatment for being one of the few civs with well-known queens who did half of anything during their reigns.
>>
>>344266960

The guy who kicked the ass of Kublai Khan twice, the main protagonist of the Marco Polo HBO show.
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>>344273116
>ayy yo come live my new city, it's gonna be called Saint Petersburg and it's gonna be just like paris but we're gonna build it in sweden.
>>
>>344273545
Oh fuck, I forgot about Stresseman. It's been a while since I did German history, I kind of glossed over and lumped him in with the shitshow that was Musical Chairs: Chancellor Edition.

Yeah, he's pretty cool.
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>>344273615
>Vicky actually does something a traditional ruler should do
>people go apeshit over it and try to assassinate her

>"Hey Jeff, she's the perfect leader! Let's use her."
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>>344272910
>playing as a cuck.
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>>344273258
>Souvorov

Aw shiiet i know he is a general but i really hope he can be the Civ leader for the Ruskie one day.

Read about him a while ago and Jesus how can one man be so Based
>>
>>344271775
German Civ IV had Hitler's name changed to "a German dictator" in the technology flavor texts so having a whole Hitler leader is probably not going to happen. It might not be straight up illegal but it's just way too risky. Too much effort for too little gain, especially when there's other cool and recognizeable leaders for Germany available.
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>>344273662
Gib back Baltic pls.
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>tfw no based militarist but isolationist Mannerheim leading Tengri's chosen
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>>344273732

Would you rather play as Russia led by the Mad Monk?
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>>344273753
>Russian military leader and national hero. He was the Count of Rymnik, Count of the Holy Roman Empire, Prince of Italy, and the last Generalissimo of the Russian Empire. Suvorov is one of the greatest generals in history and is one of the few who never lost a battle, being undefeated in over 60 large battles while frequently having the numerical disadvantage
When does he replace Catherine?
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>>344273865
>he's a leader of Sweden
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>>344267689
that's turkish wonder
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>>344263496
>big personalities

Does that mean we're getting hitler?
>>
which one born first
zelda games or japan?
>>
>>344263263
deformed dwarf
>>
>>344261989
>>344263263
>>344264430
i like it
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>>344265502

>Ghorids
>literally afghan empire

>Timurid
>No trouble from Afghanistan

>Taliban
>Conquered Afghanistan

>Alexander the great
>Had no trouble from Afghanistan, his trouble was from steppe nomads in the modern day Soviet Republics.

>Mughal Empire
Well technically a mixed bag but they got their shit clocked by Afghans and the nader Shahi Persiano/Turkic/Afghans who were invading India, not in Afghanistan.
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T*rkish leader revealed
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>>344274353

Beautiful, who is she?
>>
>>344274353
very fiting
she look like a roach
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>>344274353
STONE HER
THIS IS NOT HALAL AT ALL
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>>344274397
A little cockroach boy who legitimately looks disgusting without makeup and wigs.
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>>344273369
Neither did boudicca or hannibal but they've both been used.
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>>344274397
>she
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>>344274447

And you'd still pound that boipucci given the chance, don't deny it, anon.
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>>344274535
Do not bully the animes
>>
>>344274684
I don't fuck insects.
>>
>>344261989
At least it's better than Elizabeth
>>
>>344274513
>Boudica was only the wife of a chieftain of a briton tribe
>Leads the whole Celtic faction in Civ because fuck you, is one of the only "well know female warriors"
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>>344262994
Korea? Finland? There's plenty of examples of rapid industrialisation.
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>>344274012
no bully
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>>344274806
>Maria II was a crazy bitch
>Theodora was a nymphomaniac prostitute that married the emperor
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>>344274951
>nymphomaniac prostitute that married the emperor
Procopius please go
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>>344274951
>theodora literally complained about not having enough holes to fuck with
>represents a historically important cunt tree in a video game
Fuck whoever thought she was a good idea.
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>>344274951
>Dido may have been made up
>Leader anyway
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>>344272418
Video games? I guess?
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>>344275096
>>theodora literally complained about not having enough holes to fuck with
Truly, a visionary and the best girl.
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>>344274951
>Theodora was a nymphomaniac prostitute

Was there actually any sauce to that? I know there was one guy who wrote about her depravities but he flipped flopped about her personality with like every book he wrote.

>>344275096
I'm more confused why she was chosen as a leader, wasn't she just the wife of Justinian? I mean, it's not like he's not an important figure in their history, and he actually was the ruler. So why not go with him?
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>>344275230
>So why not go with him?
Female quota
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>>344274697
i want to do horrible things to her
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>>344275308
>her
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>>344275230
>I'm more confused why she was chosen as a leader, wasn't she just the wife of Justinian? I mean, it's not like he's not an important figure in their history, and he actually was the ruler. So why not go with him?
When justiaian got hit by the plauge and theodora managed shit while he was down, i think.
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>>344275230
I think she was his regent for some reason or another. That's it.
>>344275220
>known only as justinian's wife and a massive fucking whore
Quality female.
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>>344275296
So then add someone like Irene instead. At least she was an Empress for a while.

>>344275395
>>344275409
Ah. Well at least it's something I suppose.
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>>344265217
>why do people think their merit should br rewarded?
golly gee anon i jes can't tell
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>>344261989
He should look more like this
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>>344268253
Merkel
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>>344261989
One thing that disappoints me about these videos is that you don't get to hear the leader speak. The native language shit is cool, might as well show it off.
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>>344265217
Plebs created the Roman Empire.
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>>344267669
By brother got mugged by two dickheads in london, he ended up having a really bad black eye that looked swollen as fuck for a few weeks, i'm glad that they didn't have guns.
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>>344275539
Hojo =/= Tojo
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So when can I play as Hitler?
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>>344275693
Arr rook same
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>>344275724
when he wins a war
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>>344275741
I was going to say the American leader should be fat then, but he actually is this time around.
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>>344263683
He and his wife should have been the leader of Egypt
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>>344275809
He won against Poland and France
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>>344275540
Leader Ability: Cuckold.

Capital population increase by 1 from each discovered Civ. -50% culture and production for each civilization met.
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Is there any info on the civlopedia?
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>>344275540
>LA: Every other civ you have a trade pact with get a useless citizen per turn
>UA: No unique units or buildings because that will be natinalistic
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>>344276085
>pro nationalist can't spell
lol
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>>344264430
>>344263263
>>344261989
why did they make it "cartoony" looking?

I prefer Civ5 leaders than this.. thing
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>>344276169
To give it more character I assume.
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>>344276127
Accept you refugees, Hans
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>>344264463
>I Actually enjoyed that movie
Fucking white samurai
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>>344275632
>The native language shit is cool

Das racis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1k4D2YTGaY
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>>344276260
wut doo yoo meen i spel jus liek u do i hav prde muh cantree bcuz my granddddad did thinz
Not fooling anyone, Ahmed.
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>>344276273
the hindi guy is cool as fuck
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>>344276169

Trying to meld Civ IV and Civ V.
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>>344263263
Disgusting
These people need to learn a lesson or two from our gook friends
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>>344264547
No they didn't, they for the most part enjoyed it. The only complaints I can find are some overdone Hollywood moments.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-Japanese-people-feel-about-the-movie-The-Last-Samurai
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>>344272759
My first Samsung phone is like 7 years old and still working ,_;

>>344272952
Sounds like the Sweden of Asia, think they are more important but not really. Still, South Korea is cool.
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>>344276724
gooks can only make fap-bait, asian "games" are all garbage
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>>344266204
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>>344278105
why is evil britain trying to drown sad britain in a bathtub?
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>>344266131
Best navy
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>>344266131
>how did the British ever manage to take and hold their empire?

Their empire was mostly brown people in grass huts.
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>>344271748
They've gone on the record saying they want people to enjoy True Start maps in the base release, so expect civs that are spread all over the map.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU

nip bip
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Why even Theodora/Justinian when Constantine is objectively the most important person in western civilization since Jesus?
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>>344271748
Hopefully we get the Maya-Aztec-Inca triad back, but I won't care if we don't get a North civ 2bh.
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>>344276724
One of those girls had feathers, I think she was a new world civ but I don't know who.
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>>344279159
>biggest person since jesus
lmao
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>>344261989
How does he into triforce?
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>>344267461
You hit "god is dead" here. The sad fact is that what they had and we now lack (but didn't back then) is real culture (giving purpose to life). This is why the west is so weak today.
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>>344269254
Does it fucking matter is some people built a sand castle, while afterwards whites created empires.
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>>344265507
She looked like a chav.
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>>344272418
>>344273154
I'm guessing you posted that because you already made up your mind about Korea long ago and just wanted to talk smack, and you'll probably get mad and start arguing with anyone that defends Korea (even though you're the one who asked), but regardless, here's my two cents.

Before the late 16th century, Korea was more relevant than Japan which was isolated and didn't influence anyone 99% of the time. 17th century and on, Japan has been way more relevant obviously. I'm bringing up Japan for perspective because moat people don't know much about Asian history outside of China and Japan.

Korea has a lot of impressive generals and military victories over other countries. Korea neighbored all the conqueror nomads throughout the ages and fought with all of them constantly. Korea has been closer to the military might of China (i.e. northern China where all the troops are situated to defend from nomads) more than any other civilization for all of history. Yet Korea has held its own for 2000+ years with way more wins than losses and some world class commanders like Eulji Mundeok, Yeon Gaesomun, Yi Sunshin, and Gang Gamchan who beat the Khitans in their prime, who were like the Mongols of their day, who had just earlier beat up Song China before losing to Goryeo.

Great rulers too like Gwanggaeto, Geunchogo, Jangsu, and Sejong. The first three ruled legitimate empires and influenced their neighbors. Gwanggaeto in particular beat up Chinese, Japanese, Khitans, Jurxhens, other Koreans, Buyeo. And he did it during Goguryeos weakest moment as an underdog. Great modern leader too Park Chunghee.

Baekje was instrumental in sending culture to Japan. Silla controlled the trade between China, Korea and Japan. Goguryeo was powerful and was directly or indirectly responsible for the fall of Later Yan, Northern Yan, Sui, Tang Taizong. And vassalized the Khitans and Jurchens who would later on go build empires after the fall of Goguryeo to no longer contain them.
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Some cultural achievements that were actually relevant as opposed to merely being pretty are Koreana Tripitaka (probably the most important collection of Buddhist texts in existence), the first metal printing, ingenious writing system, also believe it or not even the precursors to katakana and hiragana probably came from Korean syllabaries that predate hangul by many centuries. Even some Japanese scholars acknowledge this. Also based on Goryeo's printing technologies it's not farfetched to think it was one of the more advanced countries in the world.

Goryeo dealt with like 5 or 6 Mongol invasions vs Japan's 2. And there were no ships and oceans involved to spook the Mongols.

The problem lies with Joseon which was a country of scholars who despised the military. Up to the end of Goryeo, Korean states had strong militaries, and this is proven by actual historical results and not just romanticized stories about warriors who had cool swords. Still, even Joseon was interesting. Probably the only country to ever have an established scholar-gentleman social class (seonbi) who were legitimately honorable and benevolent. Sejong wa also a legitimately enlightened and benevolent ruler. Interesting philosophers like Jeong Yakyong. Interesting art ranging from simple and rustic to ultra realistic. And relevant enough to receive hundreds of tributes from Jurchens and Japanese daimyos until the 1592 invasion. Immediately after those invasions, the Jurchens invaded Korea and that's when things really went to shit. Keep in mind, Koreans had ruled over the Jurchens for a long time during Goguryeo, and had received tribute during Goryeo and early Joseon.

Yeah, obviously, Korea wasn't as relevant as China or European countries or industrialized Japan, but considering its location, geography, and surroundings, Korea punched way above its weight class. At least until the autistic and cucked Joseon dynasty.
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>>344281635
To be fair the Joseon were pretty uncucked in its later phases. They saw the Qing being run by barbarians and said "fuck that, we'll bear the tortch of Sinic civilization then".
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>England will get a shit leader like Elizabeth or Victoria again because "Muh Queens xD!"
GIVE US ALFRED
GIVE US AFELSTANE
GIVE US FUCKING CROMWELL
REEEE
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>>344281882
You say that like the English leader hasn't already been revealed.
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>>344282004
Who is it? Elizabeth?
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>>344281635
Also, i fully scknowledge that Korea was a complete shithole during the 19th, early 20th centuries, but seriously,,,,, beside Japan and maybe Thailand, which Asian countries weren't going through complete shit during that time period? Perspective, please.
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>>344282024
Vicky
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>>344282201
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>>344273806
Fuck Russia. Hiding behind endless fields of snow and then scorched earth's their own nation if anyone as much as looks at them.
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>>344265217

Look at this bootlicker and laugh
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>>344281882

where's muh henry v
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>>344281835
Joseon just wanted to write philosophies and study Chinese texts. They legitimately adored Ming China. I think Ming liked Joseon too because a Ming emperor likened himself to Liu Bei and Joseon to Zhang Fei. I think it was Wan li. I bet the Joseon king fapped hard to that letter.
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>>344272910
>tfw we might get Lenin
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What kind of abilities will Sweden have this time once they're inevitably added in Civ6: Stuff we forgot to add in the base game pack? What ruler?
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>>344283487
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>>344283487
Culture bonus for every non-white neighboring state
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>>344283704
>>344283741
Shouldn't you have some more cops shot?
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Give me Friedrich or give me death
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Can anyone explain why Civ 6 looks like a fucking IOS game?

I just started getting into 4x games but holy shit, is that a massive downgrade from 5.
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>>344283487
>sweden
literally who?
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>>344283835
how do you know he's american?
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>>344286332
He doesn't. Murrica is just the go-to Yuropoor boogeyman.
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Predict how good Japan is gonna be in C6. I think they're gonna be OP as fuck. They're basically the Incans that get tile bonuses everywhere.
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>>344272910

For Civ VI they wanted leaders with a lot of personality rather than the most successful ones necessarily, so...
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>>344284413

Devs said they looked at how people were playing V and saw that they were always playing on max zoom level where the visual fidelity did nothing but add clutter, so they cleaned everything up to make sure you could read the visuals at any zoom level easily.
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>>344287164
It's about time that Japan is good in a Civ game. Japan was the worst civ in part 4, and one of the worst in 5 as well. Anyway, Japan might be a tall focused civ. That might restrict its playing style a bit.
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>>344288192
>and one of the worst in 5 as well
japan is easily one of the best domination civs in civ 5.
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>>344266475
>Blockades matter
Fuck son I normally just bomb the fuck out of those
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>>344284413
they seem to experiment a lot. they wanted a clean, crisp game with caricatures styled like civ 4's leaders. civ 5 was alright but it could look really muddy, especially if you had resource icons off, it would be very hard to identify anything. as for less units, they're doing that because you can actually combine units into bigger armies on single tiles.
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>>344273545
>got booted from the office for doing what was necessary. He did it because he knew it was the best for Germany even if it meant politicial suicide for himself
True heroes always go unsung. Instead everybody knows spineless little shits like Willhelm II.
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>>344286332
>>344286662
If you're neither american nor a yuropoor you're literally not human and have no business posting here
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>>344288921
that's not very fair to our canadian and australian friends
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>>344286332
Country most likely to try to deflect their own problems by shitting on other countries.

>filenames
If they were angry basement Swedes why would they search for images of Karl in English.
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>>344289327
Just europeans in denial
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>>344290001
Canada is OUR hat
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>344281882
>or Victoria again
This is the first time Victoria is the leader alone.
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>>344292320
>>344282907
>>344282004
i don't really mind Vicky t.bh, massacre those boers and aint afraid of nutthin
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>>344264180
He would make a great AI with all that waiting for the perfect opportunity to make his move and fuck you over
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>>344267669

You can post misrepresented statistics all you like, it doesn't change the fact that your country is a violent hellhole where you risk getting shot to death just walking down the street.

Meanwhile in my country where guns are banned, police has fired less than 10 shots in the past five years and only killed one person.
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>>344262012

>Extra bonuses for districts built next to each other
>UB gives production AND culture bonus to all nearby cities

OP as fuck
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>>344261989
>white chick explaining Japanese history

Do these people have any fucking shame?
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>>344293645
arioch says it's +1 faith for each surrounding district, but I think the video was trying to build a holy site
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>>344287817
Despite being a madman who killed off his own dynasty, he did accomplish a couple of noteworthy things, weirdly enough.
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>>344276273
lmao Doc's voice actor is endearing but not so good.
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>>344271903
It's like "Hm, we can choose between the three most important figures in unifying Japan. Or we can pick this guy who nobody knows."
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>>344261989
>mfw they actually put in something based on the Meiji Restoration

I wanted Meiji and an industiral/sci based civ, but this is okay too.
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>>344297284
yeah japan is a bundle of stuff from kamakura through modern day
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>>344283487

I can never forgive Firaxis for modeling Gustaf Adolf after Erik XIV
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>>344262994
Don't fall for the Meiji "Restoration" meme. The Emperor may have been "restored" to power, but he was still a tool of the revolutionaries who hated the bakufu, and the Meiji Constitution turned him into a powerless figurehead real quick.
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I don't care about new leaders.
All I want to do is bathe the world in nuclear hellfire and turn it into a radioactive desert.
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Ok so they make caricatures of Roosevelt, Victoria and Cleopatra but Tokimune looks pretty normal, apart from the flat shading look they're going for.
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>>344300716
>Tokimune looks pretty normal
He is based on an actor, not on actual Tokimune
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who is this dude?
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>>344262994
Well they had a lot of help from Britain.
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>>344302428
that camp look kinda Romantic, is he the leader of the Roman ?
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>>344302428
Your goat fucking advisor.
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>>344302857
They had help from a lot of countries. Japan sent groups of emissaries all over the US and Europe to take notes on their governmental and industrial systems so that Japan could pick the best ones and use them.

They took the postal and bank models fr Britain
They based their military on France until France lost a war against Prussia, then they based their military on Prussia's (high school uniforms in Japan are actually Prussian uniforms)
Satsuma clans in the south decided to try to REMOVE BRITIAN, but when Britain beat their ass, they asked the Brits to teach them how to modern war, which they did

There's much more, but that's all I can recall off the tip of my head

Japan is very unique in that it became incredibly westernized while still retaining it's own "Japaneseness"
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>>344302428
>>344303019
Could it be?
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>>344272232
lol gook
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>>344303019
I hope Rome gets an actual emperor this time.
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>>344281413
>GwanggaetoMundeokGamchanGwanggaeto
My god, gook names sound like shit
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>>344302428
It's the in-game representative of Sean Bean.
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>>344303395
Japan uniquely had a front row seat to the heart of all human civilization being BTFO by a bunch of barbs on boats. When the barbs on boats showed up on Nipponese shores there was no longer a strong argument for sticking to tradition.
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>>344275217
>korean
>video games
Dude, korean games suck donkey dick
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>>344303759
how is that any worse than the shitsumitsubutsu kokoronomonodono shit next door?
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>>344304289
>GwanggaetoMundeokGamchanGwanggaeto
>shitsumitsubutsu kokoronomonodono
See the problems, retard? i don't like nips or chink language but it still sound much better than gook
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>>344275217
their soft power in asia is no joke
so much so that china has moved on to copying them wholesale instead of paying japan much mind
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>>344304289
Calm down, koreaboo. We're all agree that korean language sound like shit here
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>>344304289
>Japanese names are syllabic and at least every other sound is a vowel, meaning there is a pleasant alliteration in every name and it doesn't sound "rough"
>Korean names are a bunch of consonants thrown together that sound like shit
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>>344304491
You sound like a weeb in the closet 2bh
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>>344304542
kpop and drama shit? i guess that count as Korean culture lol
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>>344304289
>gooks acting up again
Did someone say pan asianism?
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>>344304671
>kimhyueongchanoangbakingnah
Fuck off with your inferiority complex, gook.
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>>344304289
North Korea is still Korea
Now eat your dogs Chungachagalachangachalalala
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>>344304647
korean is literally the same but with extra vowels and the chinky -ng ending retained
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>>344304236
>mfw gook still ripoff animeshit to this day
What's a bunch of uncreative fuck
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>>344304984
It's not pleasant to hear. That all
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>>344304705
yeah
the era of cartoons is over famalam
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>>344269871
lol
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>weeaboos and koreaboos fighting a century old cultural war that isn't there's in a thread about a western pc game
Every time.
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>>344263928
yeah and she was a proud black womyn who need no man
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>>344303693
Are you saying that Augustus Ceasar wasn't the raddest dude?
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>>344261989
TANAKA
THAI KICK
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>>344305507
>Civ thread
>not about century old cultural war
What's the point of this thread?
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>>344304289
>>344304984
>Gwanggaeto, Geunchogo, Jangsu, and Sejong
>literally the same as
>Hirohito, Nobunaga, Meiyi and Hojo
Gwanggaeto even sounds like some guy from the blackest africa there is
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>>344304705
Korean has no culture
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>>344262012
>Unique Unit: Samurai - don't lose combat strength when they take damage. (Unlocked by Military Tactics technology)
Aww. I want it to effect all units. Oh well.
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>>344305787
>Jangsu, and Sejong
At least this is easy to read unlike Gwanggaeto, hyungchoennkombak and the rest
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>>344305767
Because it should be fought by the asians living there, not white neckbeards on the internet who gain nothing from it.
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>>344305787
so does Nobunaga, it's literally Oogabooga tier phonetically speaking.
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>>344305160
i like it

it's like japanese with a dosage of strong mongolian flavor
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>>344306059
>implying I'm white and not Asian

Projecting much, anon?
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>>344306425
We're ALL handsome caucasian males between the ages of 18 and 30 here. Don't lie.
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>>344303549
underrated post
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>>344306575
I'm a buff brown loli though
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