Tries to tell a story about the perils of Nationalist and theocracy based government. Halfway through says fuck it and switchs to about how Elizabeth is the lady of time and space. Toppled with shitty gameplay designs like two weapon limits.
Why was Bioshock Infinite so fucking shit?
>>344244867
It had good SFM porn but thats about it.
>>344244867
Ken Levine is an autist tried to make the perfect twist but overlooked his own lore. Wasnt a bad game but it definitely gets worse with each playthrough
>>344245905
But Adam Sessler avid Tranny fucker and cocaine user told me it was a smart game for smart gamers
>>344244867
>TFW you will never play the 2011 demo that had dynamic gameplay
>>344244867
Never got the problem with the 2 gun capacity. It encouraged a lot more run and gun switching in the field and lead to trying out most of the weapons in fights instead of sticking to a main.
>>344245275
Has too much Booker/Elizabeth
>>344247178
Opposite actually, why drop your upgraded weapon for a fresh one that's just going to hinder you until you upgrade it too? Most players just stuck with the same two or three weapons the whole game because it wasn't worth it to dump the one you had.
By allowing you to carry all the weapons, you can mess around and mix and match as you please without worrying about having enough ammo for your new weapon or it not being upgraded and leaving you in a tough spot.
>>344244867
I enjoyed it but the fedoras and neckbeards give this game way too much credit
>>344244867
Because it was written by a hack who unironically thought Rand was worth exploring
I'm convinced the only people that enjoyed it were Disney buffs and only played on easy. There's just no way anyone could legitimately call this a worthy successor to Bioshock. Hell even Bioshock 2. I enjoyed the shit outta Bioshock 2.
>>344248106
The entire Bioshock franchise is invested with reddit cancer fanbase. Tattoos of AD and Jack's symbols are common among these fans. I don't hate the Bioshock series but it definitely has the most cancerous fans
>>344248547
while bioshock 2 is weaker to its predecesor story-wise, it totally redeems itself in gameplay alone. bioshock 2 gameplay is way, way better than bioshock.
> See wrench in an airship
> Want it because ice wrench in bioshock 1
> Can't pick it up, Booker can only hold two weapons at a time
>>344244867
Can someone tell me how getting baptized made Booker into a supervillian with US government influence and access to the best quantum scientists?
Seriously this shit is beyond the stupidest plot device
>>344244867
It was funny killing those racist Christ tards though.
>>344248008
This. I don't hate Infinite like some people do, I actually think it'spretty good, but the 2 gun limit was a retarded decision and one of the games biggest flaws.
Remaster when?
>>344245905
>Wasn't a bad game.
It was bad, gunplay was bad. Enemies were bland. vigors were kind of shit.
It had no redeeming merits as it's own shooter.
>>344249986
>Gets "remastered"
>Slightly higher resolution flat apples
Can't wait
>>344249575
Any anons been baptized did radical change you and make you different? In Tel Aviv we have no such thing.
>>344250263
Baptism doesn't change your personality
>>344250243
Its still better than the average game a pretty decent one too if you bought it cheaply
>>344250261
>>344250261
Infinite doesn't get remastered because
>it's graphics still stand up to current gen console standard
I wonder if I was the only one who thought this game looked bad when it came out? I don't mean design and general art-direction, but plain technicalities. I played on pc with max settings and it did not look good at fucking all.
>>344251741
With the exception of Elizabeth all the Character models looked like shit
>>344251105
It was so shit I couldn't finish it.
>>344244867
I liked Infinite but I never followed its development. Therefore had no hype and wasnt disappointed by all the shit they changed.
I just used the starting pistol, then the better one coupled with a shotgun + bucking bronco/return to sender with some gear that halved my salt requirements, gave me salt when I killed enemies and charged my shotgun. There was no reason to use anything else because of how OP that combination was.
>>344245275
Pound me with that useless cock?
What does she mean by this?
>>344252534
I don't get if Elizabeth destroyed Booker's existence than why was she still alive?
I know it has a lot of flaws but I liked it.
The story is meh but I thought the characters and art style are great
Should I feel bad?
>>344252534
>TFW Elizabeth has a daddy fetish
>>344252784
>constants and variables muthafucker
wow that explains everything i must say what a clever ending
>>344253050
Constants and variables than she cant permanently get rid of him because he will always be alive
>>344253218
Fuck off you weren't smart enough to get it
T.Bioshock Fagboy
>>344253050
There will always be at least one universe in which she doesn't kill Booker, because she fell down some stairs and died or something stupid like that. Game made no sense.
>>344249575
infinite had jewish developers
>>344252534
Booker fucked his daughter im not sure how I feel about that.
>>344249575
Because Religion is bad
>>344248008
>why drop your upgraded weapon for a fresh one that's just going to hinder you until you upgrade it too
because you don't be a sperg and "main" a weapon you spread your upgrades. if you ever completed 1999 mode, not using dollar bills you will see you cant main a weapon.
Also you don't find every weapons ammo in all areas, you run and gun and flip both weapons an vigours for each battle.
>>344244867
>Tries to tell a story about the perils of Nationalist and theocracy based government.
No, that's all just window dressing, Infinite's story from beginning to end is about owning your mistakes.
>>344244867
Development hell. They scrapped and redid multiple times and were left with a mishmash of shit. Originally Columbia was going to be broken up between warring political factions, npcs wouldn't immediately be hostile to you, Comstock s.just another political leader whose help you needed to get off the city, etc.
Then it got Levine'd
>>344249575
It doesn't, Booker is a fundamentally bad person in both instances, all getting baptized does is trigger a sequence of events where he will meet Rosalind Lutece and learn that he can use her to predict the future and make a shitload of money.
>>344244867
We've had a lot of Infinite threads lately.
halfway through development someone said "make it easier"
regardless of who it was (Levine himself, some manager, senior level designers etc), it's clear that the game has had a lot of things cut out. Early on it was at least implied it would be open world (at least in the arkham city sense) with two factions that you could help and be an actual RPG. Instead we got a half baked shooter
>>344255424
That's not a story. That's like the theme
>>344245905
>>344244867
Ken Levine is a fucking hack
obligatory
>>344250261
That shit was what pissed me off the most when I played this game
>>344244867
>Why was Bioshock Infinite so fucking shit?
>>344244867
sorry /v/ but i loved bioshock inf
finished it twice.
nothing you say can make me change my mind.
>>344260759
Ok, enjoy your game and have a great day.
>>344246870
>place barrel under chin
>lift chin up
Enjoy removing your goddamned face and not dying.
>>344244867
Bioshock Infinite is my favorite of the series. The setting is much more interesting to me. The large open levels offer more varied and interesting combat mechanics. The enemies have a bit more variation. The story, although ultimately nonsensical, was more engaging to me. You're a lot more invested in the characters since they're not just voices on an intercom.
And I preferred the 2 weapon limit. Makes it easier to switch between the guns that you like rather than cycle through a bunch you don't care about.
>>344261795
>The large open levels offer more varied and interesting combat mechanics. The enemies have a bit more variation.
?????????????????????
>>344261943
In Bioshock 1 the levels are all in cramped underwater rooms. There's not a lot of room to move around and they were pretty restricted in what they could make since it had to fit in a room. Everything happens so close to you that you can easily play the game with just lightning and wrench.
And the enemies were pretty much restricted to a few types of splicers and a couple types of big daddy. And so long as you didn't aggro big daddys, they didn't attack you at the same time.
Infinite had large level spaces because it was open to the sky. Weapons like sniper rifles become possible.
And you could end up in fights where you're fighting snipers, guys with assault rifles, guys rushing you with shotguns, big minigun robots, and turrets all at the same time.
Oh, and the hook thing let you quickly change position so you can try to take an advantageous position during a battle rather than just making due with whatever cover you have when you spot an enemy.
>>344261795
>more varied and interesting combat mechanics
>when they literally took away shitloads of mechanics away from previous games
>no more hacking
>no more playing the security systems off other enemies
>flattened out plasmids so that they could have Elizabeth's pop-up powers provide all the utility and fun the plasmids used to provide
>completely fucking boring, straight forward guns
>completely axed resource management in order to make the Elizabeth roulette feel useful
Literally the only thing added to the game from other games is sky rails, which is just moving fast and ways to proc the clothing perks that break the game in half.
>The enemies have a bit more variation.
>guys with guns
>a handful of houdini splicers in the form of murder of crow users
>a handful of nitro splicers in the form of fire vigor users
>like two Handymen
>a few mechanized patriots
>no security bots, only a handful of turrets
>nothing to match Big Sisters, Alpha Series, Lancer, Spider splicers, Brute splicers, or Rumblers
It objectively has less variation.
>>344257104
cringewhorty attacks to ken levine
His comment was perfectly normal.
>>344262697
I didn't miss any of the mechanics they removed. Different ammo types was just a micro management mess. Half the weapons were gimmick devices that weren't actually useful. Hacking was a shitty minigame.
It objectively has more variation. Because it has counterparts to the enemies you listed along with other ones. And the enemies it has are more interesting. The guys with guns had a much larger variation due to the larger levels. The patriots have a weak point on their back. The guys with rocket launchers were heavily armored apart from the head.
>>344244867
actually the story is kinda about white male guilt mongering - booker's redemption for killing muh poor indians at wounded knee and then becoming a racist dictator in another universe.
the game implies that the only way to make the world clean is to kill all versions of the eternal white male in all possible universes.
elizabeth is supposed to be a trinity madonna and a Lilith figure - innocent girl, wide eyed temptress and vengeful spirit of (racial) justice in one person.
you see, the (((left))) considers white women to be mostly innocent of the generational sins that white males are guilty of, so the (((progressives))) want to use white women to punish and destroy white men.
and so in this game, the Lilith time lord figure shows Booker the whole beauty of the universe, before alleging that the Brave New World can only become just as beautiful if all racist christian white men are excised from it.
>>344263492
>says that the game has more variety in mechanics
>then admits that it actually has way less, but justifies it as "I didn't like all those mechanics anyway"
>says there are definitely counterparts to the enemies listed, without actually listing any
>Says the guys with guns had a much larger variation even though they have the EXACT same range of weapons, MINUS the ability to throw grenades or molotovs
I can't fault you for opinions on what you find interesting, but I find the different Big Daddy variations much more interesting. Especially since you actually engage them much more often than Infinite's like two or three setpiece moments.
>>344253045
never thought I will see an unedited version of that gif
>>344257104
It always pissed me off how he treated quantum mechanics like some fucking science magic.
This actually explains it!
>>344251105
Anon, most modern singleplayer fps'es are more enjoyable than infinite. Even cuckfield and cowadooty campaigns are.
>>344244867
>HEY GUYS HERE'S AN FPS GAME
>YOUR FIRST TIME WITH A PROJECTILE WEAPON IS HERE
>YOU PRESS A BUTTON TO CHOOSE WHO TO THROW IT AT
>INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, USING IT LIKE ANY OTHER WEAPON IN THE GAME
>>344260759
Fuck off pleb
>>344263492
>I didn't miss any of the mechanics they removed.
You didn't adress the removal of exploration, health and EVE restoration, little sister harvesting, passive plasmids, hacking flying drones to assist you in combat (wich some enemies could use too making them priority targets), healing stations (wich enemies could use but they could be hacked to hurt them instead, also they could be destroyed for a free medikit), camera research, choosing wich plasmids to upgrade/buy, manual saving and stealth.
>Different ammo types was just a micro management mess.
Done with the press of a single button.
>Half the weapons were gimmick devices that weren't actually useful.
You have:
>Upgradable melee weapon, going melee and plasmids only is a viable strategy
>Revolver (versatile, cheap)
>Machinegun (rapid fire)
>Shotgun (close range)
>Grenade Launcher (AoE, laying trap)
>Chem thrower (Elemental damage and effects)
>Camera (Reasearches enemies fo bonuses)
On top of that they all had different alternative ammo wich was more or less effective against certain enemies.
>Hacking was a shitty minigame
Some people find it tedious but it was vastly improved in Bioshock 2 before being completely removed on Infinite.
>>344260759
>twice
oh man, I can tell how much you love it
I didn't even possibly love Bioshock 2, despite playing through it dozens of times. Banjo-Kazooie? Earthbound? Megaman X? Spyro the Dragon? Megaman Battle Network 3? At least once a year for all of them, but no, definitely do not compare to your grand total of TWO playthroughs.
Bioshock was always pretty fucking stupid anyway
>>344264975
Oh shit I forgot the Crossbow: Late game weapon, good against everything, nails enemies to the wall, ammo can be reused, great for sniping.
>>344251105
>Its still better than the average game
How come this is the go-to excuse for all mediocre games? Christ.
>>344251105
It's literally an Alien Invader reboot.
Infinite stands for infinite enemies if you remain too long in a certain area.
>>344262697
>ways to proc the clothing perks that break the game in half
Ugh, this.
Winter Shield was so ridiculously good that you have to wonder what the fuck they were thinking when they added it. It was basically a godmode that removed the need for upgrades or progression of any kind.
Did they want to add an easy mode so anyone could play the game and win? Do Bio 1 and 2 have anything similar that I'm forgetting?
>>344265250
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