>4 year old game still listed at $29.99
>5 year old game still listed as $59.99
>>344212507
Fucking K-Mart
>>344212364
Console gaming general?
>11 year old game still listed at $84.99
>>344212690
This lol.
>>344212658
>K-Mart
What the fuck
>>344212690
More like Nintendo general.
>>344212690
Don't make me open steam and look for CoD
Nintendo's summer sale!
>15 percent off Super Mario 3D World
>Fifty percent of shovelware
>Three dollars off Virtual Console ROMs
>MyNintendo has no physical rewards, nothing of worth, and resets your coin counter every year or so so you can't save up for the good stuff
And people wonder why the fucking Wii U is failing.
I saw Pokemon diamond at $49 in EB games
FUCKING AUSTRALIA
>>344212364
I remember going to Wal-Mart in 2013 or something and Brawl, Mario Kart, Sin & Punishment and a shit ton of Wii games still at $50.
Ridiculous.
>>344213384
i bought S&P: SS for $20 at my canadian walmart a few weeks ago
>23 year old game still isted at $429.99
How come Nintendo never fucking drops the prices on their games?
>>344212758
You dont remember kmart anon?
>>344212737
>disc only
>>344213509
It's definitely worth $20.
Almost a 10/10 game
>>344212507
my local wal-mart did this with some Wii games like wii music and sin & punishment
>No More Heroes used copy
>5 dollars and comes with a free copy of Red Steel
>>344212737
>>344213528
Stop pretending to be retarded.
I'm talking about ps3 games.
They don't have antique value yet.
>>344213609
Not in 2016
>>344213582
Because they don't have to, people will still buy them at that price.
Up until very recently the Wal-Mart here still had Other M selling for $39.99
>>344213582
Because Nintendo don't waste money printing 1 gorilions of copies and their games have a huge attach rate because quality.
Inb4 good games = people not reselling it.
>>344213582
Nintendo games have legs while MP focused games reap most of their sales in the first week or two.
>>344212737
>20 year old game is $500
>>344213806
>antique value
That's not how it works, games are valued by supply & demand, so your PS3 games are in low supply, and highly demanded.
>>344214272
Who the fuck would want to play New Vegas on ps3 other than me?
>>344213043
The summer sale was actually decent this time though, I was surprised, lots of games were 40-50% off, including big first-party stuff like Smash.
But MyNintendo is fucking garbage. I have 2700 coins and nothing to spend them on but fucking Miitomo shit I don't want because I'm just using that for points in the first place and those fucking AWFUL 15% off coupons for $20 games. Gee, thanks for the $17 bill, Nintendo! And all the gold coin games are shit I have already, shit ANY "loyal" Nintendo customer would likely have already, like fucking Mario 64 or Mario Kart 8, which is already owned by literally over half of the Wii U owners in existence.
Nothing came in to replace WarioWare either so all my fucking coins are going to expire before they swap shit out again in fucking OCTOBER. Not babysitting this shit every week if my shit's just going to expire before there's something I actually want. You only get two sets of rewards to choose from before your coins start expiring because they only swap shit out every 3 fucking months.
>there are Wii games that now cost more than the console itself
>>344214341
It's like $8 at Gamestop and I see Wal-Mart has the complete edition for $14 new right now. No idea where you're seeing $29.99.
>>344214341
you should really be playing last gen multiplats on a PC instead
I remember seeing Mario 64 DS for $35 just last year and that was a 2004 game. I dunno if it has since changed.
>>344213046
Damn. Glad I found this for $45 back in 2014.
>buying Activision games
>>344212364
>4 year old
>>344215301
A lot of AAA garbage go cheap after a month or two mostly because they burn everything in that period.
They keep the prices high online to trick retards. But Nintendo games really get more expensive with time.
I legit see New Super Mario Bros. 2 for like, 30 dollars every time I walk into Best Buy.
Same few copies just sitting there. No one buying it.
>>344213806
>being this retarded
Ps3 games are so fucking cheap now, are you really that poor?
>>344215550
AAA games sell the vast majority of what they ever sell in their launch window, which is why the plummet in price so quickly. People just stop buying the games and often trade them in so there's a huge secondary market to compete with too. They also print millions and millions of copies of the games., there are tons in circulation, new and used.
Nintendo games sell more slowly over time, they don't print millions and millions of copies and people don't trade in the big games nearly as often, leading to higher second-hand prices and retail prices not dropping quickly. But of course everyone who started playing games on 360 assumes it's because NINTENDO ARE JEWS why isn't this game that came out a scant 8 months ago less than half price!?
>>344215886
I have to buy them at twice the listed price because shipping and customs.
Meanwhile steam has regional pricing.
>Go to local game shop
>10+ years old gamecube games are still full retail price
>>344215992
If a game has been out for years, it should be cheaper. I don't know why you would defend Nintendo too hard on this. You're the only one losing out, as you, the consumer, has to pay more for their ancient products.
>>344215840
Well the game kept selling very, very well, even years after it came out. It moved almost half its total copies after the year it released, you almost never see that shit happen with western AAA games. They generally move most of their copies right away, in the first couple months, then fall into obscurity if they're not named CoD or GTA.
NSMB2 sold over 2 million the year after it released and about a million the following two years and maintained strong weekly sales months after release. This is why Nintendo games don't drop in price right away.
>>344216567
>If a game has been out for years, it should be cheaper
Why? If it's still selling well, and we aren't getting yearly sequels, why should the price go down?
AAA shit hits the bargain bin so soon because people stop buying it, stores have to mark it down significantly or $60 copies of AssCreed Unity would be sent back to Ubisoft by the boatload.
>>344216124
If they are factory new and the good games like Mario and zelds. Snag that shit up and make profit
>>344213528
>>344216840
>Why? If it's still selling well, and we aren't getting yearly sequels, why should the price go down?
Because it's old. Consoles keep selling years down the line, but they become cheaper as time passes as well. Old games, especially ones that aren't scarce, are built off old technology and have to compete with newer fancier stuff. Why exactly would you argue something from 2012 is worth just as much as something new from 2016?
>>344216632
Now let's look at, for example, Bioshock Infinite.
Sold the vast majority of its copies right away. People stopped buying after a scant few weeks, the game was simply not moving any copies after that initial launch window.
After a mere six weeks on the market, it was only moving ~25K copies a week. Majority of people who wanted it bought it already. This is why it was ~$20 by the end of 2013. Massive secondary market and next to no demand for the game anymore.
>>344217464
>Because it's old
And? Why does that devalue it as an entertainment product, especially if, unlike most western AAA games, there isn't a sequel coming in 1-2 years?
This is how I can tell your first console was a fucking 360. You assume shit like this was always the norm, that anything older than ~6 months should be heavily discounted because you've been conditioned by big publishers to drop games and move on after playing them. Nintendo games are "evergreen" in that they keep selling long after release.
>>344217464
>Why exactly would you argue something from 2012 is worth just as much as something new from 2016?
Why would you argue it's not? This makes no fucking sense. It's not a car.
>>344213043
>resets your coin counter every year or so so you can't save up for the good stuff
Nintencucks let mario fuck them dry
>>344217837
Did you not read the rest of my post?
An old game is built off older technology. So long as the copies aren't scarce, they have to compete with newer more advanced products.
My first console was actually a fucking ColecoVision if you want to believe that, but I'm not quite sure exactly why you would be against the trend of games getting cheaper.
That's good for you.
You are not Nintendo. You have no investment in them. Their products being more expensive is bad for you.
>>344218149
Try every six months, it's fucking stupid. Your coins will expire six months after you earn them. Club Nintendo coins lasted two years.
They only change out rewards every three months so you'd better hope something pops up in those two tiny, tiny groups of games you actually want, or fuck you your coins are gone.
>Steam sale
>games have the same sale price they had 3+ years ago
sleeping dogs def edition needs to hit fucking 5 dollars instead of 7.50 already christ alive
>>344218382
I don't know how Nintendo came up with something worse than CN, but they sure as hell succeeded.
>>344218252
Games get cheaper when demand wanes.
There's little/no demand for AAA games right after release, they're designed that way so people will buy more games more often. So the price goes down after they've gotten 90% of their sales and won't get any more. There's demand for Mario even years later, so the price doesn't go down much.
I just reject the notion that simply because something is older than a newer product, it inherently has less value. We're not talking about cars or something that actually depreciates with age and use. I'd pay $10 to go see a movie from ten years ago in theaters just as soon as I'd pay to see one from 2016 if I like the movie.
>>344218758
It's baffling, My Nintendo is so fucking awful.
>>344218756
>games have the same sale price they had 3+ years ago
Or an even higher price. I wanted to get Fallout NV but it was still like $13 when a good friend bought it several years ago for like $7.
>>344219064
>that NV price
Yeah what the hell, I saw that. That always used to be on the 10 and under list, I wonder why it moved up.
>>344218756
>2 year old indie game that got out of early access a year ago
>40% on sale
>Still over $20
Steam is a joke, and these clowns wonder why G2A is fucking them in the ass on sales.
>>344219397
Bethesda knew they could do it, and during last year's sale Valve was reportedly "encouraging" publishers to price their discounts as low as possible, if that Ark dinosaur game dev is to be believed.
>>344219417
Jews noticed that people will wait for sales to buy games.
At least on steam.And to be fair, buying outside of sales is stupid.
>>344218864
> I'd pay $10 to go see a movie from ten years ago in theaters just as soon as I'd pay to see one from 2016 if I like the movie.
You know theaters sometimes re-air older movies on various occasions, right?
They're typically cheaper.
Video games though are not just wholly art, despite what some people claim. They are also technical products. There's advancement of computing and development over the years, even during the same generation of consoles. Look at a game released early in a gen, and them compare it to one later.
Some things simply become better, and older games don't have as much shine as something released yesterday. That's not to say this applies across the board, but the best released five years ago is typically not up to the snuff of the best released now on things like graphics, sound, physics, engine capabilities, etc.
The older ones are less valuable products.
>>344219820
By this logic any game that's not using the best tech available shouldn't even be $60 either. Any game that's not pushing 4K 120+fps should be in the bargain bin, because the technology is old.
I just don't agree with the idea that because an entertainment product is a few years old, not even ten or more, that it's inherently worth less than something released in the current year on the basis of technology alone. I'd rather pay $40 for something like Mario Galaxy again than fucking Overwatch because it's a much better game.
>>344213043
>MyNintendo
I wish they gave more choice in terms of rewards, I mean I enjoy Warioware T, Picross, and the BS theme, but now I have absolutely zilch to spend the coins on.
>>344220221
>By this logic any game that's not using the best tech available shouldn't even be $60 either
Look at most indie and smaller games. They're cheaper.
Some developers don't put their all into their products anyway, and ask for the max price they can get away with, but those aren't typically products you ought to be buying in the first place.
It's interesting that you mentioned Mario Galaxy though, because at launch that wasn't $40. That was $60. Already you're saying you'd only pay 1/3rd of its initial asking price, despite you thinking it's worth a premium.
>>344220590
2/3rds*. Jumbled up my words a bit.
>>344220476
You should blame Wiimini people.
>>344219820
By your logic every console and game now is outdated piece of trash and don't worth nothing because they aren't pushing for technical advancements.
Man, thats really shallow as fuck. And I have a good PC.
>>344220476
I missed WarioWare so now there's literally nothing for me to spend my 2600+ coins on. Don't want Picross, there are plenty of free Picross games out there that are better, and even one on 3DS already. Don't want Miitomo garbage, I'm only using it to get coins for MyNintendo, why would I funnel shit back into it?
Those fucking 15% off coupons for $20 games are the worst shit ever though. They're "rewarding" you with a bill for $17 and a digital game you could have bought for the same price without using their shitty "reward" program on amazon. Why can't they let you buy some cheap VC games with like 1000-1500 platinum coins, or convert them to ~10 gold coins so I can actually get a game I want?
For a program that's supposed to reward loyalty, it's absolute shit. Even if you have lots of gold coins to spend, most games are games you probably own and/or played a dozen times already, like Mario 64, because you're a "loyal" customer.
Why is GTAV still $60?
>>344220590
But any PS4/Xbone game is subject to that as well. How is paying for a Nintendo game any worse than paying $60+DLC for a 900p/30fps game with textures and assets equivalent to the lowest PC settings? Both are horribly outdated by modern standards.
>It's interesting that you mentioned Mario Galaxy though, because at launch that wasn't $40. That was $60
It was $50 actually, like all new Wii games. I said $40 because it's what Overwatch costs on PC.
>>344220879
Good developers are typically trying to push the limits of the system they're developing for.
Could Naughty Dog, for instance, make something tremendously powerful going just solely on the PC? Yes.
Are they not pushing the PS4 to its known limits anyway with things like graphical capabilities? They are. Will something even better come along at a later time? Probably! And that will mean their last game isn't exactly as cutting edge as it once was.
Please don't get into an argument about the actual quality of the game itself. That's not for here or now. We're talking about technical matters.
>>344221108
Because there's still demand for it, people are still buying it.
>>344221248
See. >>344221285
You're also ignoring that Nintendo does DLC. I believe we were talking about New Super Mario Bros. 2 at the start of this conversation? That as DLC.
What's unfortunate is that, unlike some other developers, Nintendo doesn't typically eventually bundle a "complete" version of their game with all the DLC, so you have to outright buy it.
Either way, regarding the Super Mario matter, you said you'd be willing to buy it cheaper than its initial asking price.
>>344221285
>Good developers are typically trying to push the limits of the system they're developing for.
>Are they not pushing the PS4 to its known limits anyway with things like graphical capabilities? They are
But this is exactly what Nintendo does with their platforms.
They get a lot out of their horrible hardware and the games typically perform well to boot, often at 60fps with few, if any, drops. Mario Galaxy looks great given it's running on two GCs taped together. Nintendo is probably one of the best developers out there when it comes to pushing the limits of hardware and still delivering games that don't run like garbage.
>>344221806
Mario galaxy isn't really a good exemple.
A better exemple is Xenoblade on Wii or Metroid prime on GC.
Even today is quite hard to belive they could make that kind of stuff on "weak"hardware.
>>344221578
>You're also ignoring that Nintendo does DLC
And? that had no bearing on what I was talking about.
see
>>344221578
>>344221806
And that's not a problem.
The problem is they continue to push their hardware years down the line, while still asking a premium price for products from years ago.
That's the point of the conversation. Why is something that's not typical as technically adept as the latest thing that's pushing the limits of the hardware, being asked to be bought for the same price as the more advanced product?
>>344212507
so anything by Nintendo?
>2 weeks old game gets price slashed in half
>tfw Gamestop gave me $30 for a copy of The Orange Box on 360.
Pretty sure I bought it for $20 in like 2009
>>344222028
You talked about other companies releasing DLC.
Eventually, chances are, they'll release a "complete" version of their games for a cheaper asking price.
Nintendo games rarely do, and the ones that have DLC are just more money toppled on, even if the game is old.
>>344222112
>The problem is they continue to push their hardware years down the line, while still asking a premium price for products from years ago.
BECAUSE THERE'S STILL DEMAND.
Again, by your logic, NOTHING that's not 4K 120fps should be anywhere but the bargain bin, because that tech is old news. PS4 should be $50, games should be $5 because I was playing games that looked better in 2007. You're hinging your entire argument on the notion that technology, and only technology, should determine the asking price, and I disagree with that.
>>344221108
Modern Rockstar. The same publisher that adds virtual cash and then charges $69.99 for it.
>Want to buy a PS1 game
>Sure bro, used in acceptable condition only for 249$!
Fucking kill me
>>344222293
How did you get anything over 10 dollars for trade ins?
>>344222210
leave battleborn alone
>>344222536
That shit is a pure scam and people still keeps buying.Consumers today are just sheeps.
Also didn't rockstar raised the price in one sale for GTAV by just putting one of those cards on sale?
>>344222338
Those western AAA games plummet in price, DLC included
BECAUSE
PEOPLE
STOP
BUYING
THEM
This was the first thing I explained to you. Supply and demand largely dictate price, not your arbitrary rules about technology and graphical fidelity.
I'm not going to say I wouldn't like to see a version of Smash with all the DLC characters bundled. That'd be great.
>20 year old game is 5 dollars
>>344222413
You're strawmanning me. Don't do that.
I will say that as technology advances, products should be cheaper. Consoles do get cheaper. Games do get cheaper.
Demand is a factor, certainly, but if something is more technically advanced, I question why I should be buying a less advanced product for a similar price.
I also question how "evergreen" all of these Nintendo products are. There are plenty of games released on the Wii U that haven't exactly sold a large amount, but aren't being discounted.
>>344212364
>4 years old
>still breastfeeding
Fuck off kid
>>344222768
give Sega back their money first
>>344222536
Don't forget the always-online DRM for the offline, single-player story!
Internet is out? Too bad, no story mode for you! Will the story even be playable in ~10 years when social club is defunct?
I bought retail to avoid shit like that on Steam but it's there anyway. I genuinely wish I could return the game, and I won't be buying any of their shit new ever again.
Why buy when you can get it for free?
Piratefag masterrace.
>inb4 PS3/PS4
>inb4 XBOX
Consolefags need not to apply
>>344222769
Yes
There are people who buy Konami coins for mgs5. And Konami put in a patch that resets the coins after amount of time.
Fucking why?
>>344222959
>You're strawmanning me. Don't do that.
You just fucking said technology should be the deciding factor, then said if devs work within limitations of shitty, old hardware to achieve impressive results it's okay too. Which is it? Because Nintendo does exactly that, works within the limitations of old hardware to achieve impressive results relative to the technology.
>I also question how "evergreen" all of these Nintendo products are
Go look at sales trends then, get informed.
>>344222790
In this case, you asked how Nintendo is any worse compared to companies that filled their games with DLC, well Nintendo often does that now too, so it's a bit of a moot point. It's also unfortunate that Nintendo doesn't seem to believe in fully packaging their games with all their DLC, even years later, so if you want them, you've got to purchase it all bit by bit.
I've also questioned overall how 'evergreen' these Nintendo games are.
>>344212364
> 4 year old game
> still not backward compatible on 3 year old system
>>344213792
I think we live near the same wal-mart anon
>>344223353
And working within those limitations, they get better.
Remember how in Fire Emblem Awakening character didn't really have feet?
Regardless of the fiasco surrounding Fates, characters have feet now.
That makes the older product, on a technical level, less impressive.
Do you not understand the point I'm making?
>>344223353
>Go look at sales trends then, get informed.
To elaborate with another example, NSMB on DS, a game from 2005, sold more copies than Bioshock Infinite did on 360 in 2014, 2015 AND 2016.
>>344212364
what is Call of Duty for 200, alex
>>344212507
Fucking Nintendo. Why the fuck are Wii games still so fucking expensive? No wonder people are hacking their shit
>>344223580
I get your point, I disagree and I'm saying the technology behind the product is not entirely and solely indicative of its value as an entertainment product.
>>344223353
AAA sales model is unsustainable as fuck. And Publishers never care about it.
A lot of games have like 1000 on staff for a single game. Meanwhile Even big Nintendo games have 30- 100 staff members. Fuck, new zelda game just need 2m to make profit back, meanwhile some games have 4- 5m and are a fucking fail according to some publishers.
They just keep the model because it's easy to keep the competition away from home consoles. I fucking hope that bubble crashes and burn.
>GTA V is still regularly listed as $59.99
Why
>>344223863
Well that's the thing, video games are both entertainment, and technology.
Is the original NES Super Mario Bros. fun?
Yes.
Would I pay $60 dollars for it?
Fuck no.
If I see a games from 4-5 years ago being asked for for the price of something that came out Tuesday, I'm going to be weighing what that game has to offer a lot harsher than the newer product.
>>344223870
It will, the AAA model is slowly bursting. Console users are fewer than they were a few years ago, fewer games and retail games are being sold every year and (marketing) budgets just keep going up.
It's also why we have dick for AA/niche games today, these bigger publishers can't sustain themselves on anything but AAA blockbusters riddled with DLC and microtransactions. Wii U could have had some neat games from these publishers if they were willing to make stuff beyond their safe AAA blockbusters, they have no problem supporting Nintendo with stuff like Skylanders or Lego games because those sell very well.
>>344223184
The konami coin reset is only for japanese players
>>344223848
Wal-Mart and Target are still charging $50-60 because those copies have been in the store, rotting, since they bought them when the game launched. Nintendo didn't ship them fresh copies last month at $50 a pop.
This is why AAA games drop so quickly, no one would buy them at $60 just like no one wants to buy fucking Other M at Target for $50. Prices have to drop or the games rot on shelves, taking up space that could be filled with something else that will sell.
>>344214091
what's an attach rate?
>>344224119
Okay, but that's you. Supply and demand set prices, not your arbitrary standards for what constitutes adequate technology.
>>344224438
Number of people that bought the game relatie to the number of people that own the platform.
Mario Kart 8 has an insane attach rate, it sold 7+ million copies on a platform with only about 13-14 million units out there. That means about one out of every two Wii U owners have the game.
>>344224525
Yes, that's true, and I'll give that Mario games sell, because it's a reliable iconic brand.
If I still see Star Fox Zero for full price a year from now though, I'm going to question how exactly 'evergreen' their products really are.
>>344224695
And splatoon sold 4m+ on a 10m userbase.
Nintendo games have insane attach rate.
>>344213609
I don't remember them because every nearby kmart closed down like five years ago.
>>344212364
Gamestop bought my copy of Zelda 1&2 for around $25 and they are juice. They will sell each for $30 easily and I will just hack my Wii or play them on a calculator or something.
>>344224805
>If I still see Star Fox Zero for full price a year from now
You can already get it for like $35-40 second hand.
It didn't sell well, so it's going to drop in price, even if only on the secondary market. It likely has a much higher trade-in rate than most first-party Nintendo games as well, which is reflected by the secondary prices.
>>344224890
Same with Smash and the Mario games. Splatoon is the best-selling new IP and exclusive this gen on the worst-selling platform.
> pre-ordering video games
> buying online only video games
It's like you guys don't like money or replayability.
>>344225252
get a job poorfag
>go to Best Buy/Gamestop/etc
>used games cost more than new games on Amazon
>>344225503
>tfw I collect games
>tfw I have almost every game for 360 and most for ps3
Poor indeed.
>>344225856
>1,100 360 games
>1,000 PS3 games
Where do you sleep?
>No physical release of AA5 or AA6
>Nintendo never has sales on it
>I don't trust Nintendo to keep 3ds store active for even 5 years once the next gen handheld comes out,
>I'll have to save a microSD card with the games installed on it if I ever want to replay them in the future
Digital only is a cancer on gaming
>GTAV is still $60
>>344226183
Good thing the 3DS has been busted wide open for a while now.
>Be poorfag
>Have a budget of 50 euros for games after doing a bunch of work for my uncle
>Worked out Doom and the Witcher for PS4 at 50 euros
>Witcher is not eligible for free deliver and Doom won't deliver to Ireland.
Fuck you Amazon! Your headquarters is here yet we have to use the UK one, get no free delivery and get railroaded by the exchange rate.
>>344226057
>where do you sleep
On my huge pile of games anon.
I really have 644 on 360.
>>344226198
It's still topping monthly sales charts in America, 3 years later, it will never go down in price.
>>344226383
Halfway there
>>344226374
Shit happens to us. Warehouse in Florida but they ship in from Chicago.
>>344226309
It's the concept though anon.
To preserve my games I have to break into my system, and that's only because we were lucky enough for this system to be cracked so easily. I don't like the idea of relying on flimsy device security to be able to revisit my games in a decade.
>>344212507
Navy Exchanges do this. Saw Evolve two days ago for $60 and I haven't been back since it went f2p
>nearly decade old game is $50
>sequel is $20
How and why?
>>344227815
It's probably their remastered version that they shilled onto that space fps game. I hope it's not the original game because you can literally pick that up in a walmart bargain bin right now for $5.
>>344212364
I don't understand. Did the game become less fun after 4 years?
>>344223012
Funny thing is, that wasn't there at launch I remember being able to play offline for the first year on 360, didn't have that message until late last year, they fucking patched that in
>20 year old game
>$10
Fuck Nintendo
>>344232457
Should be 1 fucking cent, fuck Reggie big nosed Jew Mexican fuck
>>344227815
It is the original game from 2007
http://store.steampowered.com/app/7940/
>>344212364
>>344212507
>expecting Activi$ion to be anything but fucking jews with their shitty games
GG
>first game ever made is still listed at $4.5 million dollars
>>344217340
Is it even any good?
>>344235519
salsa
