>bought a GTX 1080 for the price of two Playstation 4 consoles
>now have to pirate all the games to make up for the cost
Who else /masterrace/ here?
>>344126237
I just love not being poor.
>>344126237
You know some people are wealthy, right?
>spend $800
>end up broke
does this really happen?
>>344126237
Why the fuck did you buy something you can't afford you stupid cunt
but dude 4k with 16x MSAA
now you can go on /v/ and not play games
problem OP? in b4
>games after 2016 are shit
>>344127008
Not used on any of the games I want to play thankfully.
Stop responding to shitty bait
Does GTX 1080 offers a good performance increase value compared to GTX 1070?
Thinking to upgrade to 1070 instead of 1080 due to the power consumption (PSU upgrade) and cost.
>tfw nabbed an EVGA ACX 1070 the second they went into stock today at Newegg and within an hour it was out of stock
>>344126237
>not waiting for 1080ti
>>344126237
i ordered mine in may...the shipping date changes every week ;_;
>>344129203
If the 1070 isn't at a ridiculous scalper/demand price then it's better value than a 1080.
>>344129690
Enjoy your 20% price increase with 25% extra power consumption for a 10% performance increase. Oh you will enjoy a free upsized fan, as a consolation.
>>344129394
yeah, AMD titan is a basically microwave toaster. Nvidia has an upperhand now with Pascal architecture.
>>344127008
>it took a whole month to crack so it's the end of piracy!
>Bought a 980ti days before 1080 was announced
>>344126237
Could've just bought a 970 and still gotten better performance than a PS4.
>>344130592
*760
which 1070 do I buy...
>>344130592
>3.5gb meme card
>ever
390 destroys that POS now and in the DX12 future
>>344130204
>AMD titan is a basically microwave toaster. Nvidia has an upperhand now with Pascal architecture.
AMD always said that Polaris would be mid-range. Vega is going to be their high end to compete with Nvidia's Pascal.
>>344130481
>don't buy a card when they're new
>wait for reviews to see which brands hold up
>by the time i can decide the next big thing is announced
>>344130780
The question is, for the next few months, which GTX 1070 models, you can find "IN STOCK" in stores
>1070/1080 reported to have up to double the performance in VR as 900-series
Yes. This pleases Master.
>>344130981
It is valid 3 years ago, where the room for growth is relatively easy in semiconductor. Now, even GTX 9xx family lasts for 3-4 years. GTX pascal 10xx family took 2 years to develop. We are hitting the semiconductor and frequency limit.
>>344131212
one GTX 1080 is faster than SLI GTX980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xnzwjPyx8A
>>344131037
>>344131037
but really... which one do I buy? Are they all the same?
>>344131518
They are only different in
(1) Frequency
(2) heatsink and fan
(3) on-board memory
The only brand that I avoid is ASUS
>>344131689
Alright, thank you very much.
>>344126237
>bought a GTX1080 for the price of a 10 PS4 games
>thousands of cheap and free games available as well as full priced releases
>can pirate almost anything I want and play it at 4K 60fps
>>344131518
Any of them except Founders Edition cards.
>pirate games
>play for 2 hours and uninstall
>buy games
>play it for days
oh no, what have I become
>>344131518
Models so far.
Performance:
Palit > EVGA > MSI > NVidia
Power Consumption:
EVGA< MSI < Nvidia < Palit
Other things to consider: Heatsinks, Fan(s), Noise
>>344132691
Where's Zotac, PNY and Asus?
>>344132691
Wait, so, EVGA consumes the most or the least power?
>>344126338
>>344126552
you can be wealthy without being stupid
Hey /v/, massive noob when it comes to computers and i'm looking to get into pc gaming after many years of being a comsole pleb. I'm looking for 1080p 60fps sort of game play, nothing more due to current finances.
Does this build look good? What could I improve/change?
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/48Fccc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/48Fccc/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£96.23 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£35.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.03 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£118.33 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.43 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card (£114.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£50.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.50 @ BT Shop)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VX228H 21.5" 60Hz Monitor (£109.97 @ CCL Computers)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire TK Wired Gaming Keyboard (£79.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £756.43
>>344133578
fuck off
>>344127008
>key sites
>>344133659
No u
>>344126237
Nigger much, op?
>>344126760
That's the typical /v/ poster, to be fair.
>>344133578
This gave me a virus
>post yfw you bought a GTX 1080 but you can't into Uncharted
>>344133578
If you're on such a limited budget I'd drop the SSD and put that money towards a better GPU.
>>344134502
Let's say the budget wasn't as much of an issue, what gpu would you recommend? What sort of price?
>>344133578
>CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£96.23 @ CCL Computers)
As long as you do not plan to do any multitasking while gaming this is fine. This is not a future proofing choice.
>Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£35.99 @ Ebuyer)
I do not like microATX. But people have good luck with them so I give this a Meh.
>Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.03 @ BT Shop)
Meh.
>Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£118.33 @ Aria PC)
>Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.43 @ Amazon UK)
Unless you plan to have a LOT of video games installed at the same time, the 500GB SSD is likely overkill that could be downgraded and the funds shifted to other components. Otherwise solid choices.
>Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card (£114.99 @ Amazon UK)
Solid but not future proofing choice. The weakest spot in the build.
>Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£50.99 @ Amazon UK)
>Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.50 @ BT Shop)
Gonna be a tight fit with both the GPU and NIC. And that power supply is good enough for the components your considering.
>Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
>Monitor: Asus VX228H 21.5" 60Hz Monitor (£109.97 @ CCL Computers)
>Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm QuickFire TK Wired Gaming Keyboard (£79.98 @ Ebuyer)
Meh.
Overall a decent 1080p rig that should be good for everything but high end graphic beasts up to the beginning of 2016. NOT a fan of the 950, but as long as you are on older games it will see you thru.
>>344130417
You can download a 2016 denuvo game on the Pirate Bay now and play it?
Shitposting aside:
I've bought a GTX 1070 this monday, and according to benchmarks it's a card that can hold it's weight at 2k60 on max settings.
However, at 1680x1050 i can only pull an average of 130 FPS on Overwatch and FFXIV, getting drops to low 70s when on more demanding times. I have 8GB ram and my CPU is a i7-4770, all of this on an asus Z-87 PRO.
What could be bottlenecking the card's performance?
>>344135012
ttps://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Installed-Backplate-Graphics-04G-P4-3966-KR/dp/B00UOYQ5LA
Add the "h" to the beginning of the address for the link to work.
>>344131212
I was looking at the VIVE, I just can't imagine hooking up all that shit just for VR, though.
>>344133578
Drop the SSD and use that money to get an i5 + 960.
>>344135281
Did you try MSI Afterburner to see where the bottleneck is?
>>344135281
Too little information to make anything but wild guesses:
• Slow hard drive bottleneck (especially for a streamer like FFXIV)
• Poor performance from your network (both being online games)
• Power supply *just* enough to run all components in the tower
• Motherboard fault or a cache fault starting to appear
• ESD damage during installation
• Drivers in need of an update
• DirectX in need of an update (unlikely)
• Hardware setting conflicting with software settings (ex: forced filtering in control panel)
• ... it's the summer, so too hot?
>>344132978
Can you not into less than and greater than signs?
>>344134479
nothing of value was lost
>>344136247
Not when he used them in one way and then another. I don't know what rule I'm supposed to be following here
>>344132978
The smaller power consumption number is the better
>>344136241
>Slow hard drive bottleneck
I have an SSD, so this shouldn't be an issue
>Poor performance from the network
I dont' see how network lag would influence framerate...
>Limited Power supply
I have a 650w power supply, shouldn't it be enough? Does MSI afterburner indicate power consumption/availability?
>motherboard fault/cache fault
In case of a cache fault, how would I be able to fix this?
>ESD damage during installation
What's ESD?
>Drivers in need of an update
I'm pretty sure I have the latest drivers
>DirectX in need of an update
Also unlikely
>Hardware setting conflicting with software settings
Hardware settings are stock
>Summer
If this were the case, I think that at least i could see some degradation from a real high FPS count to what i'm reporting.
PC is such a scam
I built a semi top of the line computer 2 years ago and it's already out of date
It had a brand new haswell intel cpu, now they put out like 2 more different types since then.
Put a gtx 780 in, and they released 2 diffferent series since then.
Like seriously, scam much? They do this on purpose to, they know how far they can go, but they're going in steps.
>>344133578
Your build failed on meme that storage (SSD) + mechanical keyboard is better than processor / video and ram.
You really have serious issue in giving priority.
>>344136724
haswell cpu still fine
780 still fine and better than any console
woah
>>344135071
>>344135542
These are the changes i made, i downgraded the ssd to 240Gb to redistribute some of the money to a fancier cpu and gpu... how do these look?
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£145.36 @ More Computers)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
>>344126237
>Buying one of the most expensive video cards available
Nigger what are you doing? You can get a card for $100-$200 right now which will last you longer than this gen of consoles.
>>344137228
That's way too much for a 960. You could get a used 970 for not much more.
>>344137481
but these new cards a better investment
>>344136816
I did preface that i'm a noob when it comes to this
>>344136693
>I dont' see how network lag would influence framerate...
Depending on the title and how it behaves with a loss in data fidelity your network can have a considerable impact. I do not have a lot of experience with either title to know, just chumming the waters for a bite.
>I have a 650w power supply, shouldn't it be enough?
I would call that sufficient unless you are running a full tower full of accessories.
>What's ESD?
Electrostatic discharge. A silent killer of modern technology thanks to them being such precision engineering. Another longshot since most people I know have to brains about them to ground themselves with several hundred dollars worth of hardware on the line... or buy pre-built.
Your other responses tell me you have some idea of what is going on in a computer so likely it is not something "duh obvious". If you have diagnostic software to check that would be my next step. Napkin problem solving on an Anonymous image board tells me your problem is likely subtle.
>>344137228
Much better than previous config.
Please note that SSD is only useful if you are playing games like MMORPG or Large Scale FPS. You can upgrade GTX 960 to GTX 970 and buy SSD later.
>>344137830
>ESD IS Electrostatic discharge
Derp.
Anyway, I don't think this is an issue. While I wasn't properly grounded, i always take care while handling components, never touching connectors and avoiding at maximum trying to touch the board itself. Also, considering this is the MSI Gaming edition which has a backplate for protection, this shouldn't really be the cause.
>Tower full of acessories
Just have the bare minimum. Motherboard, 1 SSD, 1 DVD drive, graphics card, CPU with an aftermarket cooler and the two memory sticks, keyboard, mouse, headset and one controller (but these shouldn't draw that much power anyway).
>>344129394
>tfw Shinobu
I'm really interesting in leaving consoles in the dust and joining the master race but 600+ for just a video card?
That's fucking insane. It would take a ton of mental gymnastics to fucking justify that.
>>344137954
Thanks man, i still hop on planetside every so often, in games like that, graphics are not THAT important, it's smooth gameplay, would this build be able to maintain steady 60 fps on at least medium settings? Thanks for the help by the way bud.
>>344138613
No real mental gymnastics. While consoles have already dropped price, you can still build a rig that will match/outperform them for 400 dollars.
If you really want to hit the performances that consoles can only dream of, by all means drop that dosh into a 600 dollaryroo card.
>>344133317
Nothing stupid about being superior
>>344138613
Dude that's like... the seriously high end stuff, graphics cards that compete with current gen literally cost about £120
>>344126237
I just ordered mine today.
To be fair, I needed to. The 750 xti ain't cutting it anymore, and I never upgrade my video cards (ever). Thought I'd bite the bullet and go in hard and wet.
>tfw GTX 660
>tfw waited for th RX480
>tfw now waiting for the 1060
>tfw will wait for vega after that
fuck
>>344138613
the 600+ video cards are mostly meant for 4K.
if you want 1080p@60fps a 200 card should be enough
>>344134479
>mfw watched that movie on youtube for free
>He fell for the mustard race meme
Serves you right
>>344139012
Are you a girl? I'm just curious. You posted a cat image.
>>344126237
>now have to pirate all the games to make up for the cost
You mean "get to" right?
That was a typo?
>>344138954
This shit needs a 600w+ PSU. Hope you knew that before buying.
>>344126237
I decided to treat myself since I just got a new job and finally have money to waste.
>2x MSI GTX 1080 ($1600)
>i7 6700k ($400)
>128 GB DDR4 RAM ($700)
>1500w Seasonic PSU ($300)
>4TB Intel SSD ($10000)
I don't know if I fucked something up putting it together, or what, because I'm still getting 0fps in Bloodborne. Should I have bought four 1080s?
>>344140113
Yeah I got a 650 watt PSU
>>344140204
>noname ram
Maybe don't cheap out next time you casual shitter
>>344140204
made me lol
>>344131212
I went from a 980 to a 1080, and there have been very visible gains in VR from what I've experienced so far. Both Elite Dangerous and Valkyrie can be played with 1.5x rendering resolution and still hold over 90fps, the resolution increase really makes a huge difference.
>>344140493
do you have csgo?if so what fps and settings?
>>344140204
It seems you don't have any sort of motherboard, that might be the issue.
>>344140204
Waste tons of money on stupid shit like 128gb of ram and 1500w PSU, but stop at an i7-6700k instead of going up to 6 cores for another 100 bucks?
>>344140204
well you're not gonna be getting good performance without a mobo and monitor
>>344140565
I do but I've not played it in a while, I'm gonna guess above 200 FPS even at the highest settings.
>>344138827
>>344138845
>>344139021
Alright that's good to know, thanks.
I don't mind spending 800-1000 on a good rig I want 1080p@60fps that would make me cum my pants.
Yes! I bought 1080 too. I can sign all petitions now in 60 fps
>>344140204
>MSI
>>344139748
Just how new are you?
>>344140113
Sorry, should've expanded on it a bit.
I've been buying parts over time, and knew I was going to eventually make the jump to a better performing GPU eventually. At about the time I jumped to quad core I got a more reliable PSU to ensure it doesn't destroy my computer.
>>344126237
Ps4 plays games like garbage, kys
>>344135253
You can play cracked Doom.
>>344139748
Are you a faggot? I'm just curious.
>>344134479
Lmao 30 fps garbage
Also holy shit good example of its refined adult "story" with the most cancerous, cringe-worthy contrived scene in naughty dogs history
Absolutely disgusting
>>344141570
MSI are objectively the best when it comes to graphics cards youmong.
>>344133578
Rx 480 is better
>>344141812
so.... you're not then?
>>344141983
It's still funny, because some look like dragon dildos
>>344126237
>buying an gtx 1080 instead of two Nitro RX 480s
