>Q: HOW DO I GET ACCESS TO COMPETITIVE MODE?
A: To gain access to Competitive Mode, you must have a Premium TF2 Account and a qualifying telephone number on Steam. Examples of a telephone number that does not qualify would be a Voice Over IP number (e.g. Skype) or a number linked to a VAC-banned account. (For more information about qualifying phone numbers, please visit the Steam FAQ.)
>Q: WHY DO I NEED A PHONE NUMBER?
A: Associating a phone number with a Steam account helps ensure a greater degree of account security and player accountability, which reduces the likelihood of cheating and abuse.
>Q: WHAT IF I CAN'T OR DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE A PHONE NUMBER?
A: If you are unable to associate a telephone number with your Steam account, you can purchase a lifetime Competitive Access Pass from the Mann Co. Store. When the Meet Your Match Update goes live, you will be able to buy the Pass at an introductory discount rate of $9.99.
Thoughts?
>>344107362
L O L
I mean you need a phone number for trading anyways. So unless you're new as fuck, this isn't a problem. And if you are that new, you probably shouldn't be playing comp for a while anyway.
so?
Old
IT COSTS MONEY LOL
>>344108893
>He gave Valve his phone number
>He uses trading
>>344109126
>current year
>not trading on Steam
>no grandfather clause for accounts purchased before hats were introduced
>phone or payment required
>no weapon or class restrictions
Did Valve mean to make a worse competitive mode than Overwatch's?
>>344109117
>Tf2 is ruined because it went f2p
>competitive mode to be a paid mode
>WOW COSTS MONEY????
you cant make this shit up
>>344109003
Only that and the crusaders bow do that, everything else has good hitboxes.
You should see overwatch, even the hitscan weapons fire refrigerators.
GET GOOD. GET LMAOBOX.
>>344107362
The idea is that vac auto bans any phone number that has an infraction against it.
People typically only have one phone number
>>344109994
>People typically only have one phone number
>>344107362
Top fucking kek, Valve is dead. I can't wait until they go out of business.
>>344110116
Better then not being bound to something.
Alternatively the cheater will just need to shill out $10 whenever they want to be cunts
>>344110116
Still helps. It increases the barrier to entry which will deter marginal would-be cheaters.
>>344110116
Im not wrong
>>344107362
I've tried assigning my phone number to steam for ages and it never works. Fuck Valve. Hope this CS lawsuit kicks them in the goolies and brings them back to coolness
>>344109803
>The TF2 fanbase is one person
>>344107362
I'll get it for free without a phone because I bought it back in the day, right?
>>344109967
so what you stupid bitch cunt
you even admitted that the BOW AND CRUSADER BOW DOES THAT
so why hasn't valve fixed it yet?
BECAUSE TF2 IS FUCKING SHIT AND DEAD
YOU FUCKING PONYFUCKER
i bet you camp on pony servers making pony dispensers everyday selling shitty hats
>>344109967
>everything else has good hitboxes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGcNzFd3as
>>344107362
It makes sense, considering that TF2 is a F2P game now and there otherwise wouldn't be any walls stopping hackers from shitting up matchmaking with throwaway accounts.
The questionable part is that people who owned the game prior to it going F2P aren't grandfathered into the competitive system. Which means any old players not using the mobile authenticator is probably forced to pay more overall than a free player nowadays who just has to go premium by buying a competitive pass.
>>344107362
>say gg ez
>one hour late the swat team rushes your apartment
no thanks
>>344107362
I guess it's to prevent people from griefing and hacking in a F2P game
You fuck up once, you fuck up for lifeunless you change your phone number.
>>344107362
it keeps getting worse
I want off the planet :(
>>344111664
tf2 has literally no moderation, there's no way in hell there'll be any repercussions for talking shit in competitivebut you're still a faggot for saying gg ez
>>344111532
Cheers for the vid. This is fascinating.
>>344111664
>as one of the officers pepper spray you and hold you against the floor, he gently licks the canal of your ear and whispers
>"no re"
>>344107362
lmao dude it's just a DNA verification, just have a wank it costs you nothing.
>>344108893
>stopped playing for a while
>steam summer sale happens
>try to sell the cards on the market
>pls install app or wait until after the cards expire
I only found out about this shit recently, never been a bigger trader. The fact that you can't just give your friend who you've know for years a weapon without some phone nonsense is bullshit.
>>344111446
>so why hasn't valve fixed it yet?
Because projectiles hit the collision box rather than the actual hitboxes
>>344112856
Blame the stupid shits constantly getting scammed.
>>344107362
>Valve continues to desperately seek out personal information
>>344110116
Um, yes? Unless you're over 45 you probably don't have a landline and our cell is your only phone number.
>>344107362
>competitive
>TF2
lol
>>344113927
>theyve been asking for your phone number as safety measures dumb kids for as long as 3 years
>WOW WHAT ELSE DO THEY WANT? MY POST CODE? MY ADRESS?
people make such a big deal about everything, this is the reason that cs go betting scam shit happened, wich is interestingly, also anti valve
>>344112856
>>344108893
Well, fuck giving Gabe my phone number.
Guess I'm just not gonna trade anything any more.
No more 2 cents per card for you, fat man
>>344113747
I think they could easily take it into consideration if you're giving an item to somebody who you've been friends with for years. Protecting people from phishing is just a pretty convenient excuse for shit like this.
>>344112856
>>344114834
you can trade, but it takes 15 days for each trade to go through. with phone it's instant.
>>344109003
overwatch ripped the arrow hitbox straight from tf2 true to its roots :^)
>>344109803
Haha, suck valves cock more
>>344107362
>valve constantly forcing this fucking faggot phone auth shit
Anything more then email conformation is shit and pushing too far. Their is literally not a single point in having me link my phone to my video game collection.
None of this shit would have happened if it weren't for dumb retarded kids falling for obvious phish links and scams by Russians
>ayo click this link to get a free knife quickly man
>steamcommunistity.rus.co
>>344110116
>having an indian microsoft support phoneline
fucking lmao nigger
>>344113927
uh I dont know if youve noticed but they kinda arent the only ones :0
>>344115324
Pale Moon can't find the server at steamcommunistity.rus.co.
>>344114991
As I recall when I tried to give my steam friend (who I've known for years) a degreaser I read it would still take at least a week after we installed the phone verification crap. It's certainly a massive step down from being able to give him shit he didn't have without a hassle.
As a rule of thumb companies don't ask for this information just because it's "necessary" for security's, they like to have it. They'd probably ask for your blood type if they could find a good excuse.
All this just for a basic multiplayer feature that games have had for decades at this point
Why isn't this system being implemented into CS:GO's competitive?
This just seems like it killed tf2 comp before it could even begin.
>>344116012
It actually is
You get put in a separate queue if you give Valve your phone number, which is supposed to mean faster matchmaking times.
>>344116012
>CS:GO
CS:GO isn't F2P, TF2's doing this so people don't just make smurf accounts to abuse the system / bypass bans
>>344111446
See this, this right here is a hardcore overwatch fanboy. Just mention OW in a Tf2 thread just ONCE and there will be a Blizzdrone go full retard mode.
>so what you stupid bitch cunt
dont even try to deny you are mad Overcuck. Go jerk off to some OW sfm porn. It's the only good thing coming from that fanbase.
Valve REALLY want your fucking phone number don't they?
I mean it's obviously for their internal data tracking busy work, but still this is getting eyeroll at this point.
>>344112856
You can blame all the dumbass children and Tweens getting scammed.
>>344116238
and soValve can continue to try and gradually force more people to link a Phone to the Steam account for data analysis
Next you'll need to link your Facebook account to your Steam account ;)
>>344116596
you mean Russians, being scammed by other Russians. Russians valve are going to coddle by making everyone elses experiences shittier rather than make them learn to not be idiots.
>>344110539
It's actually less than what most games do.
$10 price tag for another go around attempt with cheating is must easiest than paying 40-60 for a new copy. Even then in cases like Blizzard, I don't know how they track cheaters, but apparently they are really good at autobanning cheaters who try to buy a new copy of the game.
>>344109003
That's because of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx-YFFnruDs
The huntman is a projectile (like rockets and grenades), which means that it doesn't use the hitscan hitboxes in pic related.
Doesn't make it any less shitty, but to be fair the Huntsman is pretty unreasonably difficult to compete at all with the Sniper Rifle in terms of consistently succeeding with it (outside of luckshots)
>>344113927
Everything free isn't actually free, you pay with personal information in which the company uses to profit from.
It's like getting upset about those cards grocery stores like safeway give out for free that allows you to get discounts, they just want to track your buying history.
>>344116675
actually I doubt they'd make that mandatory. an optional login via facebook like everything else does on phones, easily, But Valve clearly want some way to start linking your phone data and your account data.
>>344113927
Remember: if something is free, you're the product.
>>344114731
it doesn't matter how long they already ask for it it's still bad.
>>344107362
>we want your phone number to protect your account, we totally dont want to sell your information and make some money.
>we do it for your sake anon, we truly do, we love you.
>and if you cant (want) we are going to sell you some shitty pass that in no way is going to protect your account.
Remember guys, Valve could be pulling this shit again
>http://www.eteknix.com/csgo-cheaters-now-banned-by-their-linked-phone-numbers/
>>344116785
Why are Russians so fucking stupid and inept?
>>344112856
If you have been friends on steam for over 1 year then the trade hold is only 1 day you gigantic faggot.
i can get a free phone number in 3 minutes, why are any of you complaining at all. how do you not have multiple phone numbers and p.o boxes in 2016 or wait, you guys might just be 14 years old.
>>344118115
why wouldn't i want cheaters to get permanently banned
i'm all for this and i said in fact regarding dota i would rather give my drivers license number, to make it EVEN HARDER for people to make multi accounts.
>>344115318
If it was REALLY about security, they could just offer an Open Key Authenticator app for your phone instead that doesn't need a phone number (like the Battle.net and Google ones)
But nope, they can't because "reasons".
That's all you need to know that they want your number for other reasons, enjoy your marketing.
>>344118748
...valve already offers exactly what you are saying
>marketing
they can't do anything marketing related with my phone number, it's against FTC rules and violations are $40,000 apiece.
>>344118882
>...valve already offers exactly what you are saying
No, they don't. Go ahead and try to attach that app to your account. You get a page asking for your SMS capable phone number (So no Twilio or Skype) and if you hit no, it cancels the set up.
>>344118560
that's because you set your priorities wrong. the protection of your privacy should come before having cheaters to buy a new number real quick.
>>344116012
>Why isn't this system being implemented into CS:GO's competitive?
It already sort of is.
In matchmaking, people who don't tie their phone number into the Steam authentication are pooled together and kept separate from the people who do have authenticators.
So what that means is tie your phone number or get pooled with all the hackers.
>>344118963
>doesnt know how to setup a bullshit sms capable number in 2016
>>344119052
anon there is no privacy anymore. it's long gone and anything you think remains is an illusion because you're unable to let go.
>>344119085
>Using a throwaway SMS on Steam
Hey retard, those numbers are leased wholesale from telecoms. Once you stop using it or the account expires from no use, some other jackhole will get it.
If the next person who gets it registers it and gets VAC'd, you do too. All accounts associated with a number get VAC'd, that's why they're requiring it for TF2, to prevent cheaters from making many accounts.
>>344119085
You do realise using a throwaway SMS with Steam is unbelievably retarded, right? You don't own that number, the provider will recycle it eventually and someone else can use it to recover your account or get you banned if they go and hack CSGO while using it for their account.
>>344119057
really, already? that's awesome. just started playing again the other day, been rekking kids
>>344119204
no. the amount of privacy you lose is the amount you give up with shit like this for example. just because it is compromised by many companies already doesn't mean you should readily shove it into the face of others who don't have it yet. your reasoning is completely irrational.
>>344119468
Do you own a cellular phone? yes or no.
>Yes.
Then shut up. You walk around all day with a GPS tracking device through which all communications are recorded.
>>344119581
read my post again and work on your reading comprehension.
What's wrong with providing a phone number? Even neets have landlines, right?
>>344119085
SMS tiering is a thing and it's starting to spread rapidly to stop all the scams online. Most methods won't work anymore because the telecoms who own those leased numbers are tiering them down to tier 3 numbers, meaning they can't be used for any website that requires a tier 2 SMS number.
For example go grab an SMS number from Skype, Google, Twilio, FreeText+, or AnyCalls and try to use it to sign up for Hotmail, Gmail or Facebook. You'll get an error that "This number cannot be used for authentication".
>>344119663
Yes, and what I'm saying is that you walk around all day every day with something that represents giving up ALL Your privacy.
Me giving my phone number to valve does not represent ANY loss of privacy however. It represents a loss of anonymity, which I have already lost by purchasing through steam.
So please, chicken little, tell me more about how the sky is falling, when the NSA can turn on your microphone and record you at will. LOL.
>>344119397
>that's awesome
Yes, having your entertainment mediums held hostage to blackmail you into giving up your privacy to a corporation is an amazing thing. The future is looking bright.
>>344119774
they are all google numbers, never had any issues using them on anything.
>>344119714
Steam won't accept a landline, it requires SMS.I tried
>>344119970
They already have your payment info and billing address you fucking imbecile.
>>344119970
Yeah I agree not having to deal with cheaters or people who grief and make multiple accounts is awesome.
Anon do you want to worry about something? Worry about the fact that 65% of children born in america are born out of wedlock and education rates are falling. With the future of AI and automation increasing, there will be a generation for which the only possible successful enterprise is crime.
>muh video games though, it's the end of the world
I PAID for this fucking game, I don't want to link my phone.
>>344120114
True, I should also send them my DNA and SSN now, right? I mean in for a penny in for a pound.
The trade hold is great for me though. I can jew anyone with a 15 day hold and pay them 30% of their items value. Authenticated users are gabens chosen, and those without are literal goyim.
>>344120169
i'd send them my dna and my ssn if it unlocked some premium account features
like i can have kids with another account and they combine the items together and generate random new items
>>344118469
It evidently isn't.
>>344119848
a company doesn't have any business knowing my phone number. they don't need any more connections to me that i have to cut if i decide to stop associating with them. a phone number is a huge loss of privacy as you said already so you shouldn't just give it to anyone who asks even if others already know it. every extra source of identifying you is money for them because they can now profile you better and know better how to market you better.
the NSA has nothing to do with this but i'll tell you anyway why it is bad for them to be able to spy on you. hypothetically if for some reason the government turns into a police state and polices opinions and political view then every single citizen is a target and expressing your opinion could in your own home can get you in prison. i'm not tinfoiling. i know that this isn't the place in america or europe right now or that it is going to happen soon but it has happened already many times in history and it is happening right now in many places. turkey is on its best way to turn to a dictatorship for example.
>introductory discount rate
So it's eventually going to cost even more than that. Fucking lol. Prepare for the Valvedrone damage control boys.
>>344120114
not if you pay with paypal. giving them these infos at least prevents many others from knowing them so it is the lesser evil.
>>344120871
>they don't need any more connections to me that i have to cut if i decide to stop associating with them. a phone number is a huge loss of privacy
how is it a connection you have to cut? how would you cut it?
how is it a loss of privacy? they already know who you are they have your billing info
how can they profile you better with a phone number than with your BUYING DECISIONS?
>>344120397
Silly goy.
>>344107362
How will a phone number dissuade me from shitting on other players?
>>344121024
i would have to change my phone number.
they now have another means of contacting me and my account is much less likely to be a throwaway that i abbandon within a short time period. the second one sentence answers both latter questions.
>>344115318
thats one grumpy pumpy
>>344121349
Wait so let me get this straight
If you were, for to some reason, want to stop using steam completely (you'd abandon your games etc, of your own free will)
you would
CHANGE YOUR PHONE NUMBER
because you had LINKED YOUR PHONE NUMBER TO STEAM
is that right? I have that correct?
>>344121153
it's to dissuade you from hacking cause you can only associate one number to one account
>>344121478
yes. hypothetically steam could turn hostile and sell my contact informations to marketing companies. or maybe they abandon thei safety measures on the contact informations and it gets hacked. i wouldn't want to associate with that company anymore and i would like to keep my connections to any company as low as possible to minimize the risk.
>>344107362
>$9.99
LMAOBOX costs more than that, $10 is nothing for any hacker who wants to blend in and only use wallhacks/aimbot with a radius of 2 or some shit.
Your average hacker who just fucks around on pub servers isn't going to play competitive anyway.
I guess it only accepts cell numbers
oh well
>>344121731
>yes. hypothetically steam could turn hostile and sell my contact informations to marketing companies.
>>344121478
I would change my number too. There's really no reason for why they want this kind of information that isn't suspicious, considering you already had to have paid for TF2.
I also only put money on Steam using gift CCs.
>>344109726
>not for accounts before 2008...
>>344121975
>I would go to the trouble of changing my phone number, which is a gigantic inconvenience in real life, because i put that phone number in steam
it's so funny when you reveal you're like 15 and can't think things through logically
>have to contact everyone you know
>change phone number in everything else, any recovery numbers, two factor auth etc
>because you put it into steam one time
b-but they'll sell my phone number to marketing companies!
Who can't use it anyway! Because for the third time, cold calling is now a violation of federal law and punishable by thousands of dollars PER OFFENSE! IT BASICALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE! :))
>>344115620
>Pale moon
my nigga
>>344121895
it's just one of many possibilities of how giving them my contact information could turn out bad for me and/or why i would want to cut any association to a company. if that or my use of words amuses you then i guess you're beyond help but i hope that others will not disregard their personal privacy like you.
>>344121731
>yes. hypothetically steam could turn hostile and sell my contact informations to marketing companies
>>344107362
The fucks a "premium tf2 account"? If it cists money its fucking dead.
>>344122382
yeah it's not a possibility >>344122314
it would never happen in reality, either
and yet you continue to use steam lol, you sure must feel like that huge horse cock is just totally lodged down your throat little buddy. because you have to. no matter what you do, you have to.
>>344122529
first off federal law only covers the US. second there are other reasons why i would cut contacts some off which i already told you. third yes of course i use steam because right now the amount of privacy i sacrifice to them is worth the amount of service i receive. but giving them my phone number because "lol other companies know them already. nothing bad could ever happen. EVER" and being able to play a game competitively just isn't a good enough deal.
>>344122503
It's what people got when they owned the game when it went f2p. People can still buy into it too for added stuff.
>>344109496
>Current year
>not using steam solely for videog-
oh.
>>344122961
>first off federal law only covers the US
so mysterious, evil marketing companies are going to incur international rates to cold call you for advertising?
Kid you have to be 18 to use this site.
>>344123078
Trash it.
Today is the balance patch.
I wonder what will get nerfed
>>344107362
>people crying that Valve introduced measures to protect retarded children
>people crying that third party websites use Valve API to fuck retarded children
Can the both of you just stay in one thread and bitch it out?
>>344123310
and you need to be able read more than one sentence at once to hold a conversation so i guess i'll just give up on this one.
>9 years for matchmaking
The game is dead. The community is toxic and filled with fucking friendly fags. God, nothing boils my blood so hot but friendlys, wasting my time, the teams time and their time.
Is you laid for a copy of TF2 (one way or another) are you grandfathered in to a premium/competitive capable account?
>>344107362
>poor people cant play comp
>hackers need to buy a new phone for every account
no problemo
>>344123779
if you provide a phomenumber, yes
>>344123779
No, read the thread
>>344107362
>introductory discount rate of $9.99
>>344124108
>introductory
Holy shit, I didn't even read that word. The $10 isn't even going to be the final price? Fuck this industry.
>>344123651
don't shoot im friendly hoovy
>>344109967
>You should see overwatch, even the hitscan weapons fire refrigerators.
Proof or bullshit.
>>344113927
I had to send blizzard staff a picture of me holding my ID, just to get my account back. I don't think that's part of their protocol and is against privacy rights. Staff would not give me my account back and were going to flag my account as fraudulent if i didn't.
Imagine Valve doing that to you.
>>344124416
Do people really have an issue with this?
I use my phone for 2 factor authentication and its a good way to keep the hues and shitters out and its not like they sell your phone number since its used for 2 factor which is a security feature and not general account information. The trading things sounds like a pain and im sure it can be inconvenient but i understand why its there.
>>344107362
okay can someone answer this for me
what is the big deal with matchmaking anyway?
it's the same thing as how it is in cs:go: right?
you spend five minutes waiting for a match to be made that is considered "balanced", with severly less people, and then once the game emndsinstead of an oppurtunity to play several you're just throw back into the lobby to wait another five minutes for another "balance" match
if thats how it is I still don't understand what the big deal is
>>344109003
>343 Industries showed their bullet magnetism system
>FUCKING CONSOLE FAGGOTS PRAISE GABEN REEEE
>TF2, a fucking game that people like to point to all the time to promote PC gaming as a reason to suck Valve's dick, uses the same system
GG
>>344108893
> phone number for trading anyways
When did this become a thing?
>>344124260
>stores can have opening sales
>video games can't have introductory sales
k
>>344107362
cheat deterrent.
>>344125754
Those two points are unrelated since Valve/Steam and TF2 aren't 'opening', they've been around for over a decade. Why are you defending corporations trying to nickel and dime consumers?
>>344126126
why not just improve the anti cheat engine then?
>>344126267
>store introduces a new line of product that will be high in demand to current shoppers of that store
>launches it with a reduced price to get the product out
>raises the price once enough have bought the product, knowing anyone who also wants that product will have peer pressure to pay full price nowk
>Why are you defending corporations trying to nickel and dime consumers?
businesses exist to make money
>>344126414
vac is pretty good as is
>>344126267
Fuck off commie. This is how capitalism works. If you don't like it you can go vote for Bern- oh...
>>344107362
I mean look at CSGO
It's a paid game and still has rampant cheating, like I believe I read something like over 10-30% of the community cheats
TF2 just wouldn't stand a chance since it's f2p, although it's kinda stupid to sell a 9.99 pass. That's an obvious cash grab, shoulda just grandfathered any accounts that bought tf2
>>344126414
Because people will just improve their cheat engines. This happens on all sorts of games.
>>344126632
well it's obviously not good enough if they feel like the have to charge money for it to deter hacking
Solution: don't play multiplayer games. They're all a scam and they're ephemeral "experiences" anyway.
>>344126765
that guy is retarded, i don't agree that it's to deter cheating in the slightest
$10 is objectively not a lot of money and it didn't stop people from cheating in csgo from day 1
but vac is pretty good
>>344126651
stop projecting.
>>344126501
Glad to know you're willing to bend over for them.
>>344107362
>Gib Phonenumber or pay 10 bucks
I rather play Overwatch, thank you.
>>344126907
I'll always bend over for something that gives me at least $0.05/hr of entertainment value.
>>344127048slut
>>344125410
I don't get it.
>>344118397
>Russians scam you
>it's somehow them who is being stupid and inept
So fucking sick of all these companies demanding my fucking phone number. Verifications left and right, needing details to get details, like getting ID all over again.
God damn it I remember when confirming your password wasn't even standard.
>>344107362
>needing to fork over your phone number to play a video game
Top
>>344127848
are u dumb
rhetorical question, yes, you are dumb
>>344127848
I remember how Google wanted to have a number for a G+ account or something.
Somehow I managed to spam the registration and it went through without one.
>>344128351
This is a very dumb post
>>344107362
Yeah, I knew something wrong was up the first time the "add phone pls" screen popped up.
And I just learned I can't even get rid of those stupid ass cards without steam kikes learning my phone number. The fuck those niggas want, is my money they're getting not enough anymore?
Fucking kikes.
>>344127613
>tfw bought an unusual from a russian guy for 3 refined back in the day
>>344128987
>unbox my first ever crate
>get an unusual towering pillar
>trade it to friend for 30 crates because "wow this way i'll have like 5 unusuals after!"
>>344125275
As somebody who actually plays halo, those aren't the same thing.
The thing peopl;e freaked out about with Halo is bullet magnetism, as you say (which all console shooters have and need), what happens in tf2 in that webm and overwatch is a hitbox issue (though halo has had those in the past as well)
If it were bullet magnetism, the actual projectile trail would show it alinging towards the player model. here, it goes straight, and passes by the player model but just causes damage anyways
>ITT:paranoid retards thinking valve is going to find out they are a closet pedophile
wew lads do you seriously think valve gives a shit? it's to make hackers on smurf accounts fuck off, not to find out you've been fapping to lolicon's and bara, considering valve does illegal shit too regarding refunds in certain country's do you think they'd go out to point a finger at some tinfoil fedora nobody?
>>344107362
I want to go back.
I want to go back before 2007.
I want to just be able to connect to a server and play with my friends.
But instead I have to deal with this shit.
>>344129759
you can still do that just not in competitive mode and there's also casual mode being added for just that ya dope.
>>344128987
>sold my soldier's badge or whatever the fuck it was for Global Agenda which was 10 American dollary doos
I literally scammed myself.
>>344129759
You can still do that retard.
>everyone is fine giving Gaben their credit card number but somehow giving him the phone number is not safe
>>344111542
If you paid for TF2 then it was probably like 4 years ago and $20.
Another $10 half a decade later to keep F2P, Russians, and BRs from shitting up comp mode is basically nothing.
>>344130103
don't you have to give them your SSN for tax purposes too lel
>>344130103
hey can you please stop going against the circlejerk? no one wants a reasonable discussion here
>>344130184
If you're American, yeah.
lmao
>>344130243
>>344130184
You guys are European I will assume. The only people who valve need the SSN of are people who get actual money out of the system. Steamfunbux is not taxable revenue, ya dinguses.
>>344129923
you can get another one on the steam market for about tree fiddy
>>344130539 here because I'm an idiot and didnt explain fully
Only people who get money from weapon/cosmetic sales(the actual content creators, not the stupid hat economy), as that's money that gets taxed.
>>344128924
>my credit card is fine
>my phone number is off limits
>>344130607
At some point I checked they were worth 50 USD.
>>344130768
>credit card
Wrong, fucko.
>>344130840
>much debit card
>much steam wallet card
>much prepaid visas
Notice how it asks you for your information afterward too?
>>344127848
>stop asking me to secure my account because security and 2 factor authentication is crap
>>344130983
How does paypal work in this scenario?
They don't handle them (too much of) my information, right?
>>344131295
Same shit you're just putting a middle man between it. Not necessarily more secure than using your regular credit card
>Accounts must be premium and must register a cell phone number
So poorfags and kids won't play this mode, so it's pretty much dead on arrival.
>>344113927
Where'd that reaction image come from? I searched iqdb and google.
>>344107362
>competitive tf2
What?
