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Sonic: Mega Drive #1


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Was this posted yet?
Actually nevermind, I don't care.

GOTTA SPEED KEED
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Thanks op, I love it!
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Yeah.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/344022740/
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>art isn't the same drawing style or quality as the cover art
What a fucking let down, order cancelled.
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>>344085503
Did the Sonic Twitter write this?
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>>344087574
The writing in the Sonic comics has had dank memes for a while now.
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>>344087574
The writing is turning out to be absolute garbage, it reads like a shitty hipster webcomoc riddled with ancient memes, so yeah maybe. This comic is just another example of the Sonic cycle, I really thought it could have been good.
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Okay, gotta go. If this thread's still here when I get back, I'll post some extras from the issue.

Peace!
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>>344086574
Classic Amy is cute! CUTE!
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>>344088193
Thankfully, I was mostly exited for this because of the artist. I really don't give a fuck about the writing. I just like seeing the Sonic CD style.
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>>344088518
It's absolutely nothing like the Sonic CD style, seems more like Fleetway in photoshop.
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I hope the Genesis of a Hero arc in the main comic has this art style.
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I don't know what to think, the character felt really flat and literally nothing happened.
Knuckles is a complete retard for no reason.
Amy and Tails are "just there" and the artstyle is meh.
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>>344088618

>seems more like Fleetway in photoshop

but Sonic has more than two expressions in this
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>>344088193
>>344089010
It's classic Sonic, were you two retards expecting something super dramatic and edgy? The writing is just meant to be a tribute to the way minimalist stories were told in the old games with some fun references thrown in the mix, and the art is nice too.

Go back to Sonic '06 and Shadow the Edgehog you fucking faggots.
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>>344089010
>and the artstyle is meh
This. The coloring is really nice but something seems off about the drawings themselves, especially the expressions.
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>>344089632
The thing is. Classic Sonic doesn't work as a comic character.
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>>344089632
>were you two retards expecting something super dramatic and edgy?
No, but maybe a little. Something with the tone and style of the Sonic OVA and Sonic CD would have been cool, instead of more WHACKY SILLY MEEEMES that modern Sonic already has covered.
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>>344090264
Why?
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>>344087414
>>344087556
This art style seems awfully familiar
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>>344090625
Not him but the next issue might be more serious.

Plus Classic Sonic was always lighthearted.
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>>344089632
Too baf it comepletely fails to capture the personalities of the classic characters and the and the style of the classic games, it's just modern Sonic wearing the skin of classic Sonic.
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>>344090848

Same guy.
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>>344090848
Yeah, it's the same artist.
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>>344090264
Well Archie made about 70 or so comics about Classic Sonic before using his Adventure design today, so yeah.
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>>344088267
Thank you! I forgot this came out. I loved the original series growing up and I was actually considering going to a comic shop for this one.

I might get a hard copy just to frame it still, if the comic is any good.

You're a cool guy.
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>>344088618
How high are you nigga? When did Elson EVER draw like this? 'Cause I would love to see that.
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>>344091128
That's American Marketing Sonic, not the real Classic Sonic.
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>>344090848
Archie Comics hired the guy who made this comic after he showed it to them at an event. Archie Comics will be willing to hire people with great art skills.
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>>344090857
What personalities? Everyone was mute you fucking idiot. The classic characters were blank slates and the only thing the classic games gave us was just a general narrative to work with.

This comic is the same thing but with modern-style personalities to fill in the blanks so that there's actually some dialogue. There is literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>344091664
>a character needs to have copious amounts of dialogue to have a clear personality
lol, maybe sonic fans really are autistic.
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What story purpose do the rings have in these comics?
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>>344091909

Power source.
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>>344091909
I've always wondered if rings actually exist in the Sonic games and aren't just there because it's a video game. They're never mentioned in cutscenes.
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>>344091893
It's a comic. Comics of this genre almost always have some dialogue to establish the plot and throw some fun character interactions into the mix.

People like you are literally impossible to please.
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Man people were far more enthusiastic about this in the thread this morning
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>>344092325

They're mentioned in one of Eggman's PAs in Colors. That's about it, though.
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>>344092325
They appear in the very first SA1 cutscene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE9yPDzVwvM
1:30
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Wow, the thread is actually still alive. Neat! Okay, as promised here's a couple extra pages.

Tyson Hesse and Diana Skelly are two of the best artists this book has ever had. Archie really needs to keep those two around.
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>>344092347
I'm not asking for no dialogue, I'm asking for them to get the personalitites and the tone of their world right. Sonic and Eggman feel like their modern selves, not classic selves. Saying "well they had no personality!" is maximum retarded and a lazy uninformed excuse, that OVA got it right, a comic that's supposed to be a goddamn tribute to the classic era of Sonic should be able to do it too.
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>>344092608
Will Tyson be doing art for the main book? I hope he does the Genesis of a Hero arc...in the classic style!
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>>344092607
That's because that cutscene was in real time.
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>>344092325
>I've always wondered if rings actually exist in the Sonic games and aren't just there because it's a video game. They're never mentioned in cutscenes.

https://youtu.be/gULfo6V3k4M?t=28

0:28

Generations.
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>>344092539
It's the afternoon/night in Burgerland so the delinquents are out of summer school, which means shitposting about how this comic wasn't "deep" enough for sophisticated retards like themselves.
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>>344092539
I'd rather they hate it than ignore it. The thing I hate most is watching a thread quietly disappear.
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>>344092724
How the fuck are you getting personalities from a 90s side-scroller with no discernable story aside from some regional manual text?

It sounds like you're projecting your childhood's imagining of what those characters were like onto the expectations you have for a comic book that takes a different approach.
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>>344092818
Cry more appologist.
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>>344092725
I'm almost positive he's doing the next Mega Drive. Beyond that I'm not sure what the future holds for him.

Honestly I'd be completely okay with Archie releasing a quarterly Mega Drive comic alongside the monthly main series.
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>>344092724
Except they did get the personalities and tone of their world right and there's actually no difference at all between the classic and modern iterations of Sonic/Eggman other than the fact that one iteration talks and the other doesn't.

Keep crying, the butthurt right now is pretty delicious if I'm being honest.
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>>344092608
I fucking love Diana Skelly. She needs to have more issues under her belt. i'd love to see her take on the Classic designs
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>>344093034
The Genesis of a Hero cover is done in classic style, I just hope the art inside reflects that.
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>>344092724
>that OVA got it right,

I like the OVA, but the OVA is not the only depiction of Classic Sonic. Stuff like AoSTH was also a thing, and Sonic was a snarky kind of guy there as well, like he is in this.
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>>344092964
From the artwork in Sonic Jam.

>>344093042
You.
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>>344092828
>best i can do

sure about that?
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>>344092724
>that OVA got it right
You mean the OVA where every character was a dick to each other?

If you want a comic based on pure 90s Sonic, that's what the comics made during the 90s are for.
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>>344092724
>that OVA got it right

You're not talking about Sonic CD, are you? Because that OVA was a complete non-story that conveyed absolutely nothing about Sonic's personality other than vague heroism and attitude, which he has in this issue.
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>>344093096
Diana Skelly does a cute Sally.

too bad Sally a shit/spoiler]
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I've never been a "green eyes" autist but damn if this book doesn't reinforce that the classic style is the best look for Sonic.
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>>344092729
But they purposefully had a shot of sonic jumping in and collecting rings
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>>344093524
>You.

Thanks for saving me the time of knowing that you can't actually elaborate on what these supposed personality differences between classic and modern Sonic are supposed to be exactly.

Keep those tears coming.
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>>344093658

I think the solid, expressive artstyle is what sells the look rather than it being "classic"
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>>344093608
That's not the OVA, but even the Sonic CD intro and endings is enough to go on I think. More serious and direct, strong morals, but also lighthearted and playful. It's simple, but it's valid. I didn't really see that Sonic when reading the comic, it seems more based on AoSTH Sonic. It's fine if you're into that, but it's not what I like.
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>>344093983
How does that save you any time?
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>>344093658
This guy has a super nice style, fits the classic Sonic style well.
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>>344093658
Source for that pic? Could I buy that piece?
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I really, REALLY want to love this. This might just be the best Sonic comic I have ever seen. But there's just something.. wrong. I don't know, maybe I'm just an unsalvageable weeb and this is so close to my headcanon of Sonic, the art style and everything, I'm just warding it off for my own mental sake.
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>>344086724
Is that a Ristar reference

Also, shoutouts to eggman for acing those gardening puns
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>>344090264
Yes he does, he works really well.

Evidence :this comic
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>>344090857
>personality of the classic characters

What personality? Sonic 1- 3k didn't have a ton of "personality"

>style of classic games

It looks exactly like the old games.
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Art's good

Shame the same can't be said about the writing.
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>>344086297
Isn't that the first boss of Mushroom Hill in S&K?
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that the personalities were too different than the Classic characterizations, but it felt kinda weird. The pacing was a bit too fast and there were too many quips.

I still liked it, though. Waiting for some Metal Sonic and a Modern Sonic guest appearance
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>>344094501
Source is Tyson Hesse, the same guy that drew this comic. IIRC he sold those at Anime Expo. I don't know if he has an online shop or not.
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>>344094913
They did, just more calm. The characters in this book need to calm the fuck down with their quips, overreactions and memes, then it'd be perfect.
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>>344095176
It kinda looks like it
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>>344087419
Yes, because entire pages with multiple panels are just as easy and quick to produce as a single cover.
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>>344085113
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>>344085340
I was really hoping the whole book would be colored in the style of the cover, it'd feel more Classic Sonic.
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>>344095568
Alex Ross does vastly better art than even the cover of Sonic Mega Drive for every panel of everything he works on, he makes every panel a fucking painting. Getting Sega to make the whole book look that good is not an unreasonable level of quality to ask for.
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>>344095945
Alex Ross also does virtually no interiors these days and, when he does, it either takes forever or is done waaaaaay waaaaaay in advance.
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>This could be the real Sonic 4
>Best artstyle chosen
>instead this is a spin off comic
Sonic never knows peace.
At least this comic is looking great.
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>>344095945
You clearly have no clue about what you're talking about.

Alex Ross does almost entirely covers, he very VERY rarely does interior artwork (his biggest projects probably being Kingdom Come and Marvels) precisely because painting it all is extremely long and there's no way he could keep a proper schedule doing it.

Alex Ross is a fucking outlier among outliers in the industry.
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>>344096064
>>344096389
Each issue of Kingdom Come only took a month to come out back in his prime. And his art style is more than twice as intricate and detailed as the Sonic Mega Drive cover. They could have easily made the whole book in that style if they just put in a little more effort.
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>>344096458
Yeah, it took a month to come out because he did all the artwork ahead of time.
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I thought I'd revive this thread by posting some actual Classic Sonic.
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>>344096458
>Each issue of Kingdom Come only took a month to come out back in his prime.

Do you legitimately think Ross actually produced those books within a month? They were prepared way, WAY ahead of time. Kingdom Come was a miniseries that was explicitly planned to work with Ross' style and schedule.

Not to mention, Hesse is just a completely different artist than Ross. To expect him to do something exactly the same as Ross is ridiculous.
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>>344096532
The point is he did it, and it was much more than asking for Sonic Mega Drive to be colored more softly without outlines. That's not a massive jump in quality, it's less work than a painting.
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>>344096587
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>>344096587
>fangs
>being a singer

this manga has quite a bit of the stuff sonic team wanted to do with sonic before sega of america slapped their shit in
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>>344096703
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>>344096659
>Kingdom Come was a miniseries
...Just like Sonic Mega Drive.

Making the book look as good as the cover isn't "exactly the same as Ross", it's a thousand times easier, mong. Look at the cover. It's not unreasonable at all for the book to look like that.
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>>344096860
Then why did you choose such a ridiculous comparison as Alex Ross, whose artwork is considered extremely unique even among the best of the industry?
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>>344089010
>Knuckles is a complete retard for no reason.
maybe because he's a child, AKA easily manipulated Knuckles, dunce
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Honestly, whatever your thoughts on the quality of the comic itself, you all have to admit that Tyson's designs are on POINT.
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Friendly reminder that that line artist for this comic has been dating /v/'s goddess, Mariel Cartwright, for like a year or two.
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>>344085113
Holy shit this art style is fucking awesome. I might actually have to go and buy this one.
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>>344097047
Classic really is the best look for all the characters.
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>>344097047
100%

Sega needs to make a new Sonic game with this style right fucking now.
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>>344097159
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>>344097263

I can not think of a time when the Sonic series has looked better.
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>>344097297
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>>344097421

How has this man NOT done Sonic comics before this?
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>>344097297
>Vector on Keyboard

Neat
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>>344097421
Knuckles is too God damn adorable
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Talking about the Sonic series' art, why does Sega not release Sonic physical artbooks? There is enough material to make at least a dozen of them.
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>>344096587
Thats japanese classic sonic.
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>>344097428
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>>344097537
Fuck, he could even do Mega Man well if Archie ever brings it back.
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>>344097013
Quality artwork that at least matches the cover of the issue you're buying isn't an unreasonable request is the point. Good artwork in comic books is not some insane alien concept. Alex Ross is a big example of that, Sonic doing it with the VASTLY SIMPLER COLORING STYLE AND ART STYLE should be easy by comparison. Hesse drew the cover himself and it looks great, he could have colored the rest of the book like that instead of being a lazy fuck and getting someone else to do it. They didn't put as much effort as they should have into making this a great tribute is all I'm saying.

>>344097047
Agreed
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>>344097594
I mean, made during actual Classic Sonic period.
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>>344097421
>grapes
i hope once this run is done they release it together in a hard cover book
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>>344097753
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>>344097668

>instead of being a lazy fuck and getting someone else to do it

You can like / hate the design, but don't blame Hesse for unionized bullshit. He's not allowed to do the colors, since he was only hired on for cover art / line work. Not his fault.
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>>344088193
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>>344090857
I understand exactly what you're saying unlike these underage faggots, and even as a hardcore classic Sonic fan, I still don't mind. This comic isn't perfect but it's the most justice classic Sonic has had since the OVA by a landslide. Despite the flaws this comic is still fantastic.
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>>344097668
>he could have colored the rest of the book like that instead of being a lazy fuck and getting someone else to do it

Oh okay so you are retarded and have no idea how comics work, thanks for the confirmation.
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>>344097920
Fine, Sega are cheap lazy fucks, sorry for the mistake.

>>344097976
Massive cunt.
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>>344097615
Huh, so even since the classic days, Sonic was intended to talk some english phrases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fOXvXrCaTA
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>>344098097
You're just retarded m8, it's okay if you can't help it.
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>>344093587
Nobody gives a fuck about that alligator dude and he made the cover. I doubt any sonic fans know his name. I sure don't.
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>>344098097

>Sega are cheap lazy fucks, sorry for the mistake.

That's a completely fair statement.

You can't blame a singular artist for something that the company decides.
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>>344098212
it's vector you stupid nigger, he's been in like 4 other sonic games since then. All within the last 10 or so years.
Now if people didn't know about mighty I could understand.
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>>344098212
>I doubt any sonic fans know his name. I sure don't.

I do. Because it's Vector. He's been in games like Sonic Heroes, Sonic Generations, etc along with the rest of the Chaotix.
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>>344098115
Well he is the most famous hedgehog in the world.
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>>344096587
>>Accidentally misread last panel as "I'M TAKING OVER THIS ISLAND!! REEEEE!
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>>344098198
I'm sorry for not being as knowledgeable about comics as you are. I literally am just a retard for that, but my overall point is right and yours is wrong.

>>344098280
You're right, I apologize again.
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>>344098483
>but my overall point is right and yours is wrong.

Whatever helps you sleep at night kiddo.
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>>344097667

Jeeze, this guy can fucking DRAW.
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>>344085113
These threads were always the best.
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>>344098614
It would help me sleep better if you kiss my feminine cock and cuddle me
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>>344098928
Sounds hot
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>>344099104
Even though the design's the best it's ever been, I kinda hope this bumblefuck is kept outta the classic comics.
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>>344085340
>Green Seaside Zone
Lel
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>>344099567
Some things should not be seen by mortal eyes.

Even after being polished up and improved.

...Enjoy!
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>>344097054
Good. With art as god tier as his and with all the effort he puts into it he frankly deserves that pussy.
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>>344099567
His Eggman's face looks a lot better here than in the comic. He's really improved since drawing it.
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>>344099745
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>>344087556
You done goofed, Knuckle-head.
Consequences will never be the same.
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>>344099894
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>>344097667
>>344098647
>>344098758
>>344099104
>>344099328
>>344099443
>>344099567
>>344099721
>>344097054

Reminder

This guy started off doing sprite comics until he decided to draw the comics himself.

Believe in yourself /v/, and you two can get that asian pussy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEtlX9yHwo0
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>>344100009
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>>344097159
>dat eggman without his glasses and the moonrunes
the first row i think it says sonikkun, but what does it say the second row below?
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>>344100094
But I'm 25 and draw worse than a child

I'll never catch up
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>>344100175
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>>344100094

>sprite comics

Are you serious?

Someone like this came from fucking SPRITE COMICS?
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>>344097668
This is the sort of post that only someone who has never had a real job would make.
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>>344100292
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>>344100194
I don't hate you
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>>344100414
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>>344100347
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>>344100376
Define "real job"
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>>344100549
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>>344100576
and this came from the guy that came up with nipples the enchilada...

i have no words.
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>>344101050
and we're done
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>>344101258
Thanks, anon.
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>>344101542
No problem, maybe I can breathe some further life by posting some concept material.
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>>344100347
>We will never EVER have a Kirby Comic series
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>>344102379
>no matter where I go, I must also fast
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>>344102379
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>>344102569
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Sonic 2 (16bit) on Game Center CX soon
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>>344102785
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>>344102872
WOAH really?? Is that a DVD only challenge?
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This thread is great. Watching classic autists at each others throats. Even their autism senses are getting overloaded and theyre lashing out at each other over who MUH REAL CLASSIC OSNIC is.

Keep going fuckboys. this comic is great btw
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>>344103115
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>>344103262
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>>344102276
whats this
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>>344103115
It is
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>>344103506
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>>344103578

Sonic
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>>344103653
Sanic*
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>>344103651
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>>344103578
A Sengoku Taisen TCG card
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>>344103904
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>>344104079
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>>344104237
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>>344104364
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>>344104535
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>>344104682
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>>344104824
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>>344104991
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>>344087419

The art here is actually pretty good. This person does a really good Robotnik
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>>344105171
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>>344105335
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZw7gjy8P0A

>the Death Egg was already planned during Sonic 1's development
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>>344105506
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Thanks for posting
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>>344105719
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>>344105861
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>>344106141
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>>344105861
>Secret Palace
>Desert
>Ice
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>>344103609
i thought the girl ghost was attracted to werehog sonic
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>>344106469
pic somewhat related
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>>344106528

That's why she has the "?" and the Werehog thought bubble.
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>>344089010
>Knuckles is a complete retard for no reason.

I really don't understand this trend. I don't remember him being this way from the Genesis era. After Sonic Boom, suddenly it's a trend to make Knuckles this big brawn before brains retard. I don't get it.
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>>344089632

I loved the simplicity of this. It was a big ode to how the franchise used to be.
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Do people dislike AoSTH?
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>>344106695
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>>344106730
>He doesn't remember Knuckles flailing like a retard at the end of Launch Base zone

Knuckles was always the comedic idiot
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>>344106730
The old Japanese manuals described him as being "very gullible".

The truth is that Knuckles was always a fucking idiot. Boom never invented that aspect of him, it just played it up.
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>>344091432
I think it's past your bedtime
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>>344106965
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>>344106730
It's a flanderization based on Eggman tricking him in S3/SA1. It started with Advance 2 and Sonic X, IIRC. It got worse since the Pontaff era, though.

While he's not the most brilliant guy around and has always been intended as some kind of comedic character, he has shown some bits of intelligence in the past, like his abbility to read ancient languages and knowledge of all kinds of martial arts and treasure hunting, or his common sense.
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>>344107635
running out of pics
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>>344108058
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>>344106954
What is Yasuhara doing nowadays? Dude's level design is top tier.
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Comic hit alot of spots the right way. But the artist forgot to include 1 thing

item boxes
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>>344108386
ran out, I think that's it for me

let's all hope to be seeing classic sonic again
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Is there a better Sonic girl than Sally?
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>>344109205
Madonna is the ONLY good Sonic girl.
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>>344107635
>Likes: fast moving things
>hur why sonic is in a car
that shit was stablished since sonic jam and yet people complain
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>>344109395
What about Maria?

>>344109443
>He loves beauty, nature, and adventure, but his primary passion is for speed and indeed he can run faster than anyone on the planet. Two things he does _not_ do are; swim (he sinks like a stone), or ride around in cars, motorcycles, etc. (why _should_ he when he can run faster than them all!).
http://info.sonicretro.org/Original_Story

He likes fast moving things like cars, but he's probably faster than them.
The true reason that Sonic is in a car is because fair play, probably
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>>344109205
gonna take that sonic for my ever growing reaction folder
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>>344100291
There is no "catching up" anon. You just get better if you keep practicing.

The only thing you miss out on is the extra income from doing porn commissions before you could have a job.
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>>344110319
>Knuckles wearing a stupid hat
>shitty characterization of the characters all around

Why did people like the OVA again?
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>>344110825
Because what you just said is wrong? Knux likes treasure hunting, that's a canon trait.
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>>344110825

>shit talking the hat
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>>344099721
IT
IS
OUR
D E S T I N Y
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This stuff is/was pretty boring to be honest. I wish they would use the 2D anime inspired portraits they used for adventure/advance covers back then. Maybe if i had autism id like it more but only classic kiddies have that.
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>>344111098
The treasure hunting bit is a canon trait, the part where he looks like an Indiana Jones reject isn't.

The hat is fucking dumb.
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>>344110825
>>344112536
>there are people on this planet that don't think his hat isn't the tightest shit
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>>344112767
>don't
>isn't
Fuck me and my double negatives.
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>>344112536
Knuckles dislikes strong sunshine. A hat protects him of it.
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>>344112948
>dislikes Sunshine
He isn't the only one.
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Anything interesting here?

http://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/megadrivecx/kibe2

Yuji Naka interview by Kibe from Game Center CX
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>>344113115
If someone hacked Sunshine to completely remove all cutscenes it would be pretty good.
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>This gay ass nostalgia pandering art style
>Not letting Tyson Hesse truly shine and let loose
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>>344113549
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>>344113396
>中: けれども、発売後に知ったんですが、 アメリカ人って「ハッキリした色味は好きじゃない」らしい んです(笑)。

>Americans in charge of style
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>>344112767
>gameofthronesfinale.gif
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>>344090857
He doesn't act like Modern Sonic, he's a lot snarkier.
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>all these people insisting classic Sonic didn't have an attitude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWIsD58xzes
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>>344116349
Not a single person itt insisted that.
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What's with the black Handkerchief that Sonic is wearing?
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>>344117373

that's a shadow
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>15 more days
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>>344098212
Vector the crocodile is a cool motherfucker kill yourself.
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>>344113482
Their were barely any cut scenes, don't act like its a Kojima joint.
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>>344123408
The few that were in the game are absolute shit though, major cringe fests that actually detract from the entire experience. Cut them out and the game is automatically better. And they're unskippable too iirc
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>>344098212
Are you fucking retarded he's a major character in the series and I guarantee you the majority of Sonic fans know him.
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>>344123642
They weren't that long, and were so infrequent that you could go for hours without hitting them. Cut them out and you barely notice anything.
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>>344095309
>>344093658
Fuck I want this print so bad. The one year I don't go to Anime Expo and they actually had shit I wanted
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This has been a good thread
Thanks OP
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>>344121732
I preferred his classic design. He looks too much like an aligator now.
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