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Use all my candy bars and stun gun ammo to save her. Is dead in the Canon.
JUST
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>>344068456
She is dead?
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>>344069793
Yes in the Novel which us canon she is dead
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>>344068456
No Prichard either WTF the two best character in human revolution arent in mankind divide
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>>344069793
TFW doing a non lethal ghost playthrough i couldn't save her
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>>344071929
You didn't even TRY
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Cute!
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>>344068456
>Malik is dead
>no Prichard
>David got a voice change
I'm starting to worry that MD may suck
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>>344072294
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That's why you gotta have the explosive revolver on you at all times.
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>>344072480
I never asked for this
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>>344072480
We have to see Pritchard at least once, if David is in it he has to be
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>>344073229
Nope developers confirmed no Pritchard in MD
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>>344070782
what novel?
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>>344072480
Pritchard was terrible.
sariff will barely be in the game

>liking malik
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>>344073878
Wrong
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>>344073878
>Not liking Malik
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IM NOT MAD ABOUT THE VA CHANGE

IM MAD ABOUT THE FACT THAT SARIF LOOKS FUCKING DIFFERENT
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>>344073662
Why the FUCK no?
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>>344075047
>both arms augmented now

I thought he died at Panchea and that's why the Illuminati control Sarif Industries now
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raminder
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>>344075364
wait how bad was it? never knew what it was until now
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>>344071929
TFW doing a non-lethal ghost playthrough when I realized I couldn't save her non-lethally and I decided how many people I should kill to try to save her.

Malik was the best. It really, really pisses me off that she's not in Mankind Divided.
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>>344075549
shit.
its on pc if you want to try it out.
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>>344073878
Nigga, is you gay?

Malik was one of the best parts about HR. She had your back, and her sidequest was fucking brutal. Solid, 10/10 Waifu material.

Malik dying is a fucking atrocity.
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>>344075549
Even on PC, it's bad.

It was originally developed as a mobile game, and they tried to backwards engineer it for a big boy game with a Steam release.

It's pretty fucking bad tho.
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>>344075047
>>344075334
>It's an Illuminati actor who underwent reconstructive surgery but they couldn't alter his voice
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>>344072480
>I'm starting to worry that MD may suck

the six month delay should have already told you that
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>>344076418
Let's be honest, Human Revolution could have used more time. They were already running over and had to push it out, which is why other hubs got cut and the boss fights were farmed out
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>>344076418
A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is bad forever
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>>344076692
Tell that to the king, baby
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>>344077193
they didnt delay it long enough
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>>344071929
I did it on normal difficulty.
I just jumped around stunning people and kept an MG in my inventory for robots
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>>344076692
Starfox Zero made me believe that Miyamto can't hold true to that statement any more
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>>344076692
Like the Division oh wait
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no "leaked demo" this time so we'll never know if the delay is good or bad. if hr is any indication it does not bode well and in today's age of downgrades, delays ares even worse.

let's not forget they were also doing pre order incentive bullshit and go full ass creed with the franchise.
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>>344071443

He's supposed to play a big part in the new book.

Speaking of which, anyone know if Icarus Effect is any good?
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>>344073662

I think all they said about returning characters is that Sarif is all they plan on mentioning pre-release.
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>>344076418

Maybe they were running into the same situation they had in HR but they used HR's sales as a way to convince Eidos to let them actually finish the game.
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>people saying you can't save her non lethally

get good, I did that and didn't even get detected.
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>>344072438
>The moment that made many players end their pacifist run
Me included.
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>>344077954
>AUGust comes after July
>Its July right now
holy shit that snuck up on me
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Can someone explain to me why that one code from Deus Ex 1 is so popular? 0451 I mean. Hell, they showed some achievements and revealed you get an achievement for entering it in the first key board.
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>>344079714
Fahrenheit 451
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>>344073753
Fuck the novel. We saved her.
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>game could let you import your save and use variables that would affect the next game giving people different experiences, quests, plot points, etc.
>lol no, who ever you "saved" is dead and whatever you did the first game doesn't matter

why choices/multiple paths are even a selling point anymore is beyond silly
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Can anyone explain to me why Edios NEEDED to kill Malik off? Even if they didn't want to use her for MD, they could have just left her out and have it mentioned in game that she quit or something. What was the purpose of adding in she was dead when the former option does the same thing without taking away our choices?
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>>344071929
EMP and Gas Grenades and lots of tranq ammo and stungun
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>MUH WAIFU ;(
Malik wasn't even that good of a character, the guy at the front desk of the police station was a much more memorable experience for me
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>>344080383
HR is a prequel to the original, the future is set in stone and your choices are pointless by design
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>>344081612

That and the problem is importing choices is that devs always set the default choices to be the worst ones to fuck people over for not giving them more money.
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>>344081194
What if I chose to leave her for dead?
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>>344076297
I like that theory.
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>>344081612
he is clearly not talking about making up some quest that magically cures the grey death or whatever and negates the first game but rather saving npcs carrying over to the next game or i.e. if you chose sarif ending and research goes unchecked the next game might have more advanced upgrades to choose from or taggart ending gives the next game more illuminati stuff.
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>>344073753

There is no novel.

Fly girl is still flying. in our hearts ;_;_;_;_;. All those EMPs and pacifist achievement, WASTED!
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>>344082764

Locking major upgrades for you and enemies would take too much work for something that maybe 1/4th of the player base would get to use.
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Why contain it?
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>>344084929
's cool
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>>344082764
Theyd have to actually plan for that during the creation of HR, not MD
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>>344085807
It wouldn't be hard to add a prompt at the start that says
>did you play the previous game y/n
>what ending did you get
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>>344081194
she lost her relevancy near end game
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>>344082915
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>>344082915
Fly girl is objectively the worse waifu
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>>344068456
>be Adam Jensen
>confront Hugh Darrow about his plot that ended up killing 50 million people
>he tells you he did it himself
>go after the Illuminati anyway even they dindu nuffin
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>>344076692
If a game gets delayed by six extra months when it's only 3 months from launch that's a pretty big red flag that shit's fucked.
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>>344090795

not necessarily. maybe the company's other products are pulling in more revenue than expected, leaving them more breathing room for the investors/shareholders, and so the developers are given extra time for polish/small new features
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>>344079714
Originally it was a reference to Fahreinheit 451, now it's basically a reference to System Shock and the games that succeeded it.
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>>344091001
Perhaps. It pays to be pessimistic however, just like with Human Revolution.
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>>344091674
fair
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>>344072438
Delete this
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>he fell for the pacifist meme!

man you miss out on so much fun shit by doing foxiest of the hounds.
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>>344089554
agreed Eliza is 100% a better waifu
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>>344076418
Things that are chronically delayed are likely a disaster. One delay doesn't mean anything but the publisher has enough confidence in the project to play another couple months of salary to 100-300 people.
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We'll get that pink and white though, right?
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still really worried they've gone too heavy on the action / guns side of things this time
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>>344092376
Where am I supposed to fuck?
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>>344093098
put your dick into a usb 5.0 port
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>>344072438

>You will never smell the inside of a woman's jumpsuit

WHY EVEN LIVE
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>>344093218
>not USB 6.9
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>>344093098
Eh it's future science you can at the very least fuck her holigram if nothing else.
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>>344093098
Adam has an augmented dick
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>>344093848
whoa

you mean I had augments I didn't even know about?
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>>344093098
She plugs directly into your brain
You will cum without being touched, you will experience an orgasm with the force of 10,000 suns.
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>>344071929
>play nonlethal
>Malik pinned down
>start running out of tranq
>fuck it
>pull out pistol
>headshots everywhere

Killing every last fuck felt really good.
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>>344094169
Why did you carry a pistol in non-lethal?
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>>344092376
Ai Fag
KYS
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>>344094056
Thats... pretty hot.
>>344093906
Well in the scenes where he isn't wearing any armor over his chest you can see that his entire self up to his crotch isnt flesh. So you probably have an artificial penis.
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>>344092841
>promo shit tends to show Adam as a wanton murder machine
>game rewards you more for being a filthy hippy
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>>344094227
I had extra space
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>>344073662
Thank God, that prick was fucking annoying.
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>>344092376

piss off ya blade runner reject
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>>344094356
I hope they change that. I hate they show off all this cool shit but, oh, you can't use that! Fucking metal gear is the worst offender.
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>>344077193
You can thank Randy Pitchford for that one.
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>>344094590
No, dishonored is
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>>344094921
>there will never be a Section 8 III because Gearbox fucked over TimeGate studios
1 and Prejudice were flawed but I still enjoyed them.
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>>344094356
Stealth Games in General
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>>344070782
No one gives a shit about the novel m8. No one here even considered not trying to save her and being pleasantly surprised when you could.
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>>344068456

She had zero personality and had zero effect on the plot.

Cut the bitch loose.
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>>344094590
I actually like the conflict that creates
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>>344097536
You've just given me a reason to hate something
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>>344097589
Any examples? Promotional Adam's lust for blood seems unparalleled.
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>>344073878
Sarif has over 50 lines
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>>344097962
Honestly although i don't like it, it makes sense that shes dead.It'd be pretty damn unlikely for Adam to have saved her.I am interested in the books though.I didn't even know there were any until right now.
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>>344093218
Does Jensen even have a dick anymore? Maybe that's why he's so upset about being augmented.
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>>344092376
Seriously how do people not get this? Malik is great and shouldn't be dead, but Eliza was way better.
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>>344090594
New game new shit.Also i haven't played deus ex 1, but aren't they the bad guys in that?So they definitely will do sumthin.The very ending of human revolution hints at that anyway.
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>>344100696
Elizas in mankind divided though
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>>344099462
>you will never drop from the sky with your bros again
feels bad
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Am i the only one who is going to do this? >read icarus effect
>play the fall
>play human revolution
>read human revolution comic
>read children's crusade
>play mankind divided
>read blacklight
>play mankind divided over again
>play DX1
>play invisible war
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>>344068456
Is it actually confirmed that she's canonically dead? I got myself killed countless times just to try and save her. I didnt even know I could, but I still tried!
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>>344101593
>play invisible war

You lost me.
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>>344101935
yeah, i want to go through all DX media
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Who gives a fuck about the sand nigger tainted with percings? Meghan is much more pure and didn't whore herself out to dirty chinks .
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>>344102279
Nah she just whored herself out to the entire illuminati
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>>344102279
>megan
>pure
she fucking stole your DNA and sold it to the Illuminati, fucking bitch
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>>344094227
it filled in my missing junk slot
i did ask for this
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>>344094227
The silenced pistol is easily the best distraction tool to manipulate enemy positions.
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>>344100265

He fucked some girl in one of the tie in comics. His torso and dick is intact.
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>>344073878
Malik and Prichard had jensen's back throughout the campaign for them not to be in Mankind divided is a travesty
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>tfw when you saved her on give me deus ex without killing anybody

felt good man

definitely can't imagine doing that on a ghost run though, tricky as fuck, unless you prepared specifically for that moment.
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>>344104406
Proofs
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>>344104406
There once was a cyborg named Ace
who wooed ladies on every base
but once they glanced at
his special enhancement
they vanished with nary a trace.
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>>344073878
>Pritchard was terrible.
Fuck you m8. He was a good twist on a misson control character.
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So what if she's dead? Most people didn't even know you could save her.
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>>344077246
They delayed it for 12 fucking years.
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>>344081194
Why did they need to save her? Screw Malik. Look, I say it again.

SCREW MALIK.
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>>344092269
You actually see more shit if you never trigger the guards, idiot. You see more conversations.
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MD looks kinda lame desu. I'm just hoping they'll remake or at least remaster dudesex1 after that.
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>>344106747
>screw Malik
Stop making us want things we can't have.
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>>344107101
You can anon all you have to do is save her without killing or knocking anyone out.
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Which ending did /v/ pick?
Sarif ending best ending
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>people really liked malik THAT much

she was an okay character
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>>344107375
I let humanity decide
[spoilers]It's the most hopeful and moral ending, but in hindsight is probably the worst choice
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>>344108356
Fucked up spoilers, i really need to stop going to /v/ when I'm tired as hell
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>>344108601
ctrl+s, brother.
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>>344108846
I know, but sometimes I am too lazy to move my hand like that and think I can get away with just typing it out.
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>>344106157
the problem is that some people saved her and their efforts were pointless because she's dead anyway
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>>344102529
Face it, you'd do the same.
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I really liked Malik a Hell of a lot, only quality waifu in the game. Sexy voice, great look...Why the fuck she couldn't return as your pilot in this one is beyond me. And don't tell me it's because she could die in the first one because she's apparently dead even though you could save her, the devs clearly don't give a fuck about past choices so why not have her reprise her role instead of replacing her with an identical character that's racelifted from the mobile game into being fucking black?
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>>344109145
>sarif could have died in the first game
>But lets bring him back though
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why do people like her so much? because she was nice to you?

she's shit tier, jock was a way better pilot
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>>344109209
Yeah what gives. These motherfuckers. The Sarif VA turned in the best performance in the first game too, probably because he's an actual fucking actor. Man...Oh well. Sequels are never as good as the original so I suppose we should have expected this. I still have my original copy of HR with sweet, sweet piss filter.
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>>344109145
Obviously there's every possibility she's alive, but the mobile character seems like a more story appropriate choice. Anyhow Malik wasn't all that important, they'll probably start a tradition now where the canonicity of the pilot's death isn't addressed (cf. Jock in DX). Prepare for black pilot man to be an optional death this time too.
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>>344109274
>someone is better
>so the other person is shit
Why are you such a cum loving nigger?
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>>344072480
half of the deus ex games have been terrible, so not surprised
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>>344110027
>Obviously there's every possibility she's alive, but the mobile character seems like a more story appropriate choice.
How the fuck do you figure? Malik sticking with you when every single other character from the first game has fucked off would at least have provided a much fucking appreciated sense of continuity with the first game. Who are we getting in this one that was in the first one? Eliza Cassan? A cameo from David Sarif with somebody else voicing him? What was even the point of continuing on with Jensen if you've essentially annhilated his whole fucking supporting cast?
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>>344106157
>>344106747
>why should a game series about player choices respect player choices?
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>>344105265
How was he a twist on anything?
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>>344111079
He was tsundere.
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Is Invisible War worth playing at all? I just want to see everything the Deus Ex brand has to offer.
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>>344111787
It's worth a go through.
Stick with my nigga here.
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>Somehow Sarif is alive
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>>344111787
Yeah. Its only truly serious crime is universal ammo. No one would have given a fuck about the streamlining if it wasn't a sequel to Deus Ex: on its own merits it's an 8/10.
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>>344112045
It's amazing how he ended up being the coolest dude in the end, despite being the biggest tool to begin with. Well, maybe JC is the coolest, but we might debate over whether he is still merely a "dude" at that point
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>>344110424
>How the fuck do you figure?
Because Alex has ties to the Juggernaut collective while Malik doesn't. Jensen now works for the task force thanks to the special circumstance of being a supersoldier, there isn't a particular reason why they'd hire Malik to be his pilot.

>What was even the point of continuing on with Jensen if you've essentially annhilated his whole fucking supporting cast?
They've basically said they're just using Jensen again because people thought he was cool. He's basically being shoehorned into it with a motivation that wasn't particularly in line with his previous characterisation (i.e. being hellbent on fucking the Illuminati).
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>>344111787
I always say this: it's worth playing at least once, at least to see what the griping is about.
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>>344112415
Best "girl"
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>>344112571
This is how I treat every game. Despite /v/ hating everything, I try not talking shit unless I actually know what I'm talking about.
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>>344112768
Better than the real one
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>>344112518
>Jensen now works for the task force thanks to the special circumstance of being a supersoldier, there isn't a particular reason why they'd hire Malik to be his pilot.
What about because Jensen trusts her and very few other people and the Collective needs Jensen? I mean, if there was no helicopter pilot in HR, that'd be one thing, but Adam NEEDS a helicopter pilot and instead of sticking with a fleshed out character players and Jensen already have a connection with in a game that's begging for some fucking continuity, they shoehorn in this bitch nobody gives a fuck about when she's literally just Malik without the emotional attachment and a slightly darker skintone. What the fuck.
>They've basically said they're just using Jensen again because people thought he was cool. He's basically being shoehorned into it with a motivation that wasn't particularly in line with his previous characterisation (i.e. being hellbent on fucking the Illuminati).
That's just more reason to scoop up any of the first game's supporting cast that makes sense so it's easier to fake a heart for the story.
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>>344112768
If you didn't try to aim the camera up her skirt you didn't have a childhood.
>tfw the area between her legs was as dark as my shattered hopes
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Wait a second.

The novel confirmed she was dead? That's hilarious. Last month I made a thread about her death and a lot of fags said NOT CONFIRMED.
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>>344077592
I had about 6 attempts, slowly figuring out where everyone was and where they'd move to as I moved in the same path. After a few deaths I just lobbed grenades one way and melee killed everyone in my path
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>>344113491
NOT CONFIRMED
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Is this game good, v? Can I play it without playing the other deus ex?
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>>344113870
Yes and yes
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>>344109145
Voice actor probably didn't want to come back, poochie died on the way back to his home planet etc.
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>>344113870
Deus Ex HR was the last time I really enjoyed a videogame like in the old days, back when you got so into games that when you weren't playing them you were thinking about it. There's no way Mankind Divided is going to be as good, but then again HR had no right to be as good as it was to begin with.
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>>344113870
It's decent, play it on the hardest setting and don't bother worrying about playstyles. Just do what you think you would actually do in any given scenario.
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>>344114268
I doubt that's it, she played some nothing part in Far Cry Primal just this year so it's not like she thinks she's too good for videogames.
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>>344113118
>What about because Jensen trusts her and very few other people and the Collective needs Jensen?
Maybe she is part of the collective and will act as his Collective pilot at some stage. Alex acts as is go-between with the collective though, and she makes more sense in that role, I don't know if she still acts a pilot. So far the only flying I've seen Jensen doing is while working under the Task Force, which Malik couldn't reasonably join as I said.

>That's just more reason to scoop up any of the first game's supporting cast that makes sense so it's easier to fake a heart for the story.
Jensen's bad enough so I don't really want him dragging his supporting cast around with him. Bum licking Human Revolution is what they should avoid as much as possible, they should be bumlicking the first game instead. It actually made be for the best if Malik is dead so they don't have to bring her into it.
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>>344113870
I got into the series by first playing HR. You miss some references without playing the very first game, but it stands alone well.
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>>344114735
>Maybe she is part of the collective and will act as his Collective pilot at some stage. Alex acts as is go-between with the collective though, and she makes more sense in that role, I don't know if she still acts a pilot.
The person that makes the most sense acting as a go-between is the Russian from the first game's DLC. And yes, she's his pilot. She's stated to be so in the first trailer they ever released.
>Jensen's bad enough so I don't really want him dragging his supporting cast around with him.
That just means you shouldn't bring back Jensen. But if you're GOING to bring back Jensen and try to hammer a round peg into a square hole, you should bring back what members of his supporting cast you logically can so he doesn't feel so...shoehorned in. Imagine if someone made Sly Cooper 5 and the only returning character was Sly and maybe fucking Muggshot, that's what this is like. I guarantee you it's going to feel off the entire game.
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>>344113491
why do people care so much? she was a shitty side character. and she called you "spyboy". that alone should be enough to get her killed. wish I could've killed her personally.
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>>344112182
can't tariff the sarif
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>>344115527
>asks why people care and then posts a bunch of tryhard edgy bullshit
That underage faggots like you were the only people that disliked her ought to clue you in as to why normal people liked her.
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>>344092550
this.
should be fine. and if it's not, I'll delude myself/lie to myself until it's good.

/v/ is too negative.
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>>344081194
To further emphasize the hopeless theme. Good people being cut down by a system that cares nothing for human suffering and death.
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>>344115853
I'm sure you'll get waifus in MD to masturbate to, bud. ;)
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>>344116018
>first one is black
Doubt it.
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>>344115328
Never bought the Missing Link so don't know anything about it.
>That just means you shouldn't bring back Jensen. But if you're GOING to bring back Jensen and try to hammer a round peg into a square hole, you should bring back what members of his supporting cast you logically can so he doesn't feel so...shoehorned in. Imagine if someone made Sly Cooper 5 and the only returning character was Sly and maybe fucking Muggshot, that's what this is like. I guarantee you it's going to feel off the entire game.
Personally I don't think Jensen's personal story is all that interesting, and Malik's even less so. I'll sooner take just Jensen being shoehorned into a plot that explores the wider world set about by Deus Ex rather than having to pay service time to the whole supporting cast. It's not perfect, and they shouldn't have brought him back but I prefer it this way than the other way because it still minimises that effect. Malik being dead is a good choice here as well.
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>>344068456
I wonder what ties to the original we're going to get.

>Bob Page and Morgan Everett mentioned in a few emails. Maybe someone will mistakingly refer to Dowd as Daud
>aiding Beth Duclare
>AI prototypes
>A BOMB
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>>344115527
Yeah Malik was a dud. At least Jock had his seemingly innocuous rant about Area 51 and "I fly better when I drink" thing. What a cool guy.
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>>344111787
it's the only game where you can go super speed and beat literal cybergod to death twice with a collapsible fucking baton
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>>344106489
Not long enough.
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>>344116938
We'll probably see Lucius DeBeers get put in Evrett's fridge at the end.
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>>344092661
SUPER
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>>344116562
>Never bought the Missing Link so don't know anything about it.
You fucking goof, you're jacking off about 'the wider world of Deus Ex' and you didn't even play that part of HR that's most relevant to the sequel.
>Personally I don't think Jensen's personal story is all that interesting, and Malik's even less so. I'll sooner take just Jensen being shoehorned into a plot that explores the wider world set about by Deus Ex rather than having to pay service time to the whole supporting cast. It's not perfect, and they shouldn't have brought him back but I prefer it this way than the other way because it still minimises that effect. Malik being dead is a good choice here as well.
It's actually the exact wrong way to go about it and I'm pretty confident time will prove me out about this. As I've already stated, if you're going to bring back a character that doesn't really belong in the story to be your fucking protagonist you bring back as many of his supporting cast as can logically be a part of the story to minimize the ensuing dissonance as much as possible.
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>>344117237
HOT
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>>344117253
>you bring back as many of his supporting cast as can logically be a part of the story to minimize the ensuing dissonance as much as possible.
Sarif's in it in a sensible way, Pritchard we don't know, the tie-in novel will explain it. Malik's dead. Megan's hanging with Bobby Page. Actually doesn't seem that bad.
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>>344092661
Fuck that shit looks so stupid.
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>>344117027
also, on this note, the number of things you can just run circles around while beating them to death is really hilarious in that game. i was on hard, and it was more effective to do that than actually try and shoot shit because headshots didn't kill anyway.
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>dl human revolution on steam
>Stuttering issues
>Can't play the game

rip
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>>344117708
But everyone on 4chan is talking about pink and white
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>>344117686
I see you're changing tack now that you realize I'm right about logical return cast members being better than a protag that doesn't belong cast adrift like a ship on the ocean. Still doesn't change the fact that they replaced Malik with a functionally identical character sans emotional connection for seemingly no reason. Some guy with double digit lines doing a Stephen Shellen impression isn't going to help by the way, you might as well put that dream away right now.
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>>344068456
I can see why she is dead in canon. She literally disappears after you save her with the exception of flying to pick up megan and her group of scientists. Besides in Mankind Divided Jensen is apart of an elite squad no room for a pliot who flews for a corporation. New pilot will be former air force
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>>344079159
You're a fat beta guy right?
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Why the fuck were nonlethal takedowns so much better than lethal ones? Lethal are not only noisy as fuck but worst of all give worse experience. I genuinely stealth takedowned most enemies then shot them in the head with a silenced pistol because I'm not an utter fucking retard hippie.
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>>344118723
First day on 4chan, buddy?
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>>344068456
Looks great. I always hated those characters.
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Game gives you a bunch of lethal badass options to takedown enemies. Punishes you for using them.
WEW LAD
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>>344076639
be honest with yourself, no amount of time would make it as open as the games before it. The reality is it would always be linear in linear mission maps. Even invisible war gave you a city to run around in with many ways to get to where you need.

This will always lethal or non lethal, take you to the exact end destination, on a linear path that had 2 or 3 linear points that simply only take you around portions of the linear map.

No amount of time would do anything for this game, not having more money, not having more time, because the directors cut came out and you basically pay for a patch. They could have made an expansion by your standards, but the reality is gaming is dead.
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>>344119054
I will never understand this criticism.
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>>344119363
It's a fair one. A game that touts choice but punishes you for playing in any way besides one is shit. The ONLY benefit lethal has over nonlethal in HR is that dead enemies can't be woken up, but that's such a fucking non-issue anyway that it's not nearly worth the experience penalty or how much harder it makes stealth.
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>>344118383
I'm just trying to look at it from your point of view, I don't really like that they brought Sarif back he could've been written as dead too. A thought though, Malik wasn't needlessly replaced. Alex is a better fit for her double pilot/intel role and tie in to the Fall so Malik's a bit redundant other than cheap emotional connections to a character to get in the way of my conspiracies. Honestly out of all ommissions Pritchard seems to be the only egregrious one and he'll probably show up.
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>>344119661
It's super shit design to add a bunch of tools but only rewarding certain uses. I was thinking more along the lines of MUH BAD ENDING, but that's for another thread.
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>>344119054
Sort of like Dishonored. Say we can play how we like, get the bad ending for choosing to kill.
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>>344119931
>Alex is a better fit for her double pilot/intel role and tie in to the Fall so Malik's a bit redundant other than cheap emotional connections to a character to get in the way of my conspiracies.
Having actually beat The Fall I can state confidently and with authority that Alex and Malik are functionally the same character, and when I say functionally I mean both in gameplay role and personality. It would have taken the slightest adjustment to slot Pritchard's responsibilities (which it's safe to assume Alex will now also be taking over) to Malik and it genuinely would have done the feeling of continuity with the first game a world of fucking good.

Honestly the more cynical part of me says the only reason they did it was so they could have a black woman (that holiest of holies of minorities) be a part of the main cast, which is even more egregious considering Alex was whiter than fucking Malik in The Fall.
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>>344120010
You didn't get a bad ending for killing anybody in HR. The endings were down to what button you pressed at the end, kek.
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>>344121213
Actually adam would say he lost his humanity or not based on how many people you killed.
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>>344121465
WEW who gives a fuck.
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>>344121546
It changed the entire ending narration friend. And it was said there is no bad ending but technically that is one.
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Mobile game is underrated by the way, if you actually play the way you're MEANT to play HR (no long range weapons, sneaky stealth takedowns only) it's a solid 7/10. More if you really, really liked HR.
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>>344068456
>the less heroic option is the canon one
Well just fuck my gameplay right the fuck up
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>>344121767
>Mobile game
into the trash
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>>344121882
What a controversial and thought-provoking opinion.
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>>344121952
Whats really controversial and thought-provoking is the decision to make a mobile deus ex game in the first place.
What a bunch of retards.
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>>344119363
Game touts play how you want. Heavily favors pacifist/non-lethal playthroughs. Gives you a bad ending if you use the lethal way even though they used it in marketing. Although its not that bad in Deus Ex Human Revolution because it only changes a line in dialogue
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>>344071443
and they changed sarif's voice actor ;_;
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>>344122397
They couldn't get in contact with him due to fruit fly interference
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>>344071929

You only need to get ghost for one level, the other achievement is for no alarms. You can totally do no alarms, non lethal and save her.
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Guys finally a HR thread. One question i just got it from the Sale, lethal or non lethal ?
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>>344124171
Kill em all non lethally
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>>344124171
Lethal first time. Non lethal on new game +. Have fun.
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>>344124171
However you want on your first run.
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>>344124171
Nonlethal is better in everyway. Get the double-takedown perk as soon as possible since it gives the best experience, hack EVERYTHING, never use one of the things that does it automatically. Stick to takedowns, don't shoot anybody unless they're a boss [spoilers]or you've already taken them down and you're just giving them the coup de grace[/spoilers]

Get the original version and the expansion off a torrent site since Steam doesn't sell it anymore, the game of the year edition runs like shit and worst of all they took out the piss filter and the ambiance doesn't really work without it, it was THAT big a part of the game's atmosphere.
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>>344124171
Non-Lethal gives you significantly more experience for each takedown. Aditionally, not being spotted by enemies or cameras give you about 750 extra EXP per section due to the Ghost and Smooth Operator bonuses.

All in all the game is heavily biased towards non-lethal stealth sections if you want to make the most of your run, but as Anon pointed, New Game+ of the Director's Cut version mitigates that a bit
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>>344071929
I died a bunch of times trying to pull it off, but when you do, the feeling is incredible
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>>344071929
>trying to do a non-lethal ghost playthrough
>realize my non-lethal status has been forteit from the start since I killed the soldiers in the intro
>pull out the fully upgraded 10mm handgun and the Typhoon ammo
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>>344124656
I pirated deus ex 1 to see why /v/ was all over its cock and didnt like it.
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>>344069793
The narrative works better if Adam fails to save her.
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>>344078630
I'd rate Icarus Effect 4/5. It's not high literature, but it's a legitimately good cyberpunk/techno thriller.
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>>344124171
Unlike Deus Ex 1, you can play non-lethal for a first playthrough in Deus Ex HR and not want to cap a bitch.

But I'd recommend saving it for a Foxiest of the Hounds playthrough.
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>>344125229
Misunderstanding me shittaste-san, I mean torrent the Deus Ex: Human Revolution normal release, not the Director's Cut. But since you already admitted to not knowing shit about videogames, fuck it, do whatever you want. I doubt you'll even notice the hit the atmosphere takes from the removal of the gold filter to the light, shit like that is almost certainly too subtle for your ass anyway.
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I just got started on the Missing Link part of the Director's Cut version and the fact that I lost all my enhancements completely sapped my will to play.

I was getting complacent on strolling my way past everything with invisibility + quiet movement, but I honestly feel kind of robbed now.

Is it even worth it to continue? Is Missing Link good, or will dragging myself through it be a chore?
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>>344125535
You get them back at the end you fucking pussy, you shouldn't be cheesing the game like that anyway.
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>>344125750
Look, Sarif didn't give me an invisibility field just so I could peek into the women's bathroom of Sarif Industries unnoticed.

It gives you a wonderful power trip.
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>>344119054
Gunning the fuck out of everything made the game easy. You got rewarded for being stealthy because it was actually difficult. The game is a stralth game after all, so the nonstealth stuff is just a plus.
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>>344126686
>You got rewarded for being stealthy because it was actually difficult.
I don't know, I always felt like at some point in development someone got two lines of code mixed and the noise range of lethal and non-lethal takedowns got swapped by accident.

There's no trade-off for going non-lethal, it is both easier AND more rewarding than lethal, considering you can non-lethally subdue two people standing side to side one at a time without the other one noticing
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>>344092376
Might as well waifu Morpheus
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>>344100234

It was extremely easy with my Jensen because I went with a walking tank character. So I don't really appreciate that she's canonically dead.
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>>344109037
>>344111014
You made your choice when you did your first playthrough, and no one saved Malik the first time.
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>>344092376
My dearest of niggas. One of the qtest waifus in vidya
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>>344102015

Don't listen to that guy anyways. It's a mediocre game with a great atmosphere. Not the total piece of shit that everyone around here claims it is.
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>>344100265
Aaaadam what are you so upset about? Did you even try the vibrating function?
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>>344127275
Speak for yourself son
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>>344109274

Posting best pilot.
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>>344127352
Go to bed boss, you're drunk
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>>344127275
Bullshit I didn't.
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>>344125105
Why would you have fully upgraded 10mm if your intention was nonlethal playthrough?
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>>344112217
>you need an aug to crouch walk silently
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>>344127275

Just because you fucked the pooch doesn't mean everyone else did too.
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>>344068456
She was a cardboard cutout, no big loss.
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>>344127643
Because I liked the feeling of drawing the gun and checking the chamber when entering a hostile area for professional super spy roleplaying purposes
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>>344092661
This is like one of those arthouse films Pritchard tries to get me to watch.
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