Why did Nintendo think it was a good idea to hide board 9 in such an obscure, random location?
>>344012205
Isn't there an NPC that hints the location of this one?
Also exploration is a huge part of the game.
I dunno it's not like you're bombing the entire length of the wall those are a little obvious.
>>344012313
Exploration isn't the same as bombing random walls. That's just poor level design.
It's so fucking stupid yet is so fucking obvious.
It promoted exploration and talking to others/buying the magazine, if that was even a thing at the time.
Plus the more time you spent on a game, the more perceived value. It's hard to find but not impossible, and once you find it, it's easy in subsequent playthroughs.
SPECTACLE ROCK IS AN ENTRANCE TO DEATH
>>344012205
>board
I played the game a few years ago for the first time, I found that entrance by accident. I thought it was really fucking stupid, but it's a really old game so whatever.
>>344012205
IN THE POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRR, NINTENDO POWERRRRRRRRRRRR
>>344012205
>board 9
>>344012205
I discovered this level because the manual said that the place where the rocks fall is the Death Mountain, knowing that it was the final dungeon so I just started to spam bombs in all the areas/places near of it.
>>344012941
>>344012875
Old people slang for level.
Very old people slang.
>>344012205
had a harder time finding the random place to use the lantern.
>>344012205
It took me forever to figure out how to get in to level 7. Then when I did I literally ran down the street to my friend's house to tell them.
I know you get hints but I was a literal child who couldn't decode some of the cryptic shit those old men tell you.
>>344013383
my friend says that and he's 26.
After finding my first ITS A SECRET TO EVERYBODY I naturally started bombing every two tile span I could and found all the hidden shit
>>344015235
>bombing the entirety of the south shore wall
Ahhh, memories. That's when I learned that if you place a bomb between two squares you can bomb both at once.
>>344012205
Are you telling me you didn't bomb every wall in the entire game?
You must have missed out on tons of secrets. It's the 9th dungeon for crying out loud. Bombing the walls of the two rock formations in the middle of your path is by no means something "obscure" at that point.
>>344015217
As I said.
Very old people.
>>344012205
Artificial way of making games longer. Pretty much the same reason as why most nes games are hard as balls.
This game was just an advertisement for Nintendo Power. Shit this obtuse is not good design, the first good Zelda is Adventures of Link.
Personally, I found GRUMBLE GRUMBLE more infuriating.
>>344012205
>board
>>344013383
I'm 35 and started games with older people than me and nobody ever said that, stop rewriting history, normie.
>>344015787
dafuq? 26?
>>344012205
tbqh, zelda 1 design sucks. too difficult to find shit.
>>344016683
A lot of people I met that started playing video games in arcades and eventually when consoles started getting coming out have used the term board when referencing levels and shit. It's possible it's a region specific thing. Just because no one said it around you doesn't mean nobody ever said it.
>>344012313
One of the old wise men says something like "It is in the eye of the spectacle" which is vague enough to make the mystery fun. Regardless, you;d probably find that anyway since you'll be bombing every square inch of the map for free money or hearts, and those boulders are conspicuous.
Zelda 1 would be improved one hundredfold if you could tap the walls like in LTTP.
>>344017197
I like that. If that was the case, it'd be a much better game.
>>344015951
>hard as balls
>muh nes difficulty
>nintenhard
The /v/ gauntlet has taught me that you can beat allmost all of them in one afternoon and we were just dumb kids.
>>344012205
>board
U wot m8?
>>344017724
While it is true that they are relatively easy to beat now, it's also true that console games back then were coming off the extreme and often cheap difficulty of arcades so they could get more coins from you, and had to make games on consoles artificially hard in some cases in order to keep people playing and often pad the length of the game due to cartridges not being able to hold a lot of information.
>>344012205
I actually played through the original loz for the first time about a week ago
great game considering it's age and limitations
a little tedious and cryptic but not as bad as some others from around that time
>>344012391
it's not random, it's a very conspicuous spot.
>>344016718
>zelda 1 design sucks. too difficult to find shit.
>tfw my dad told me he literally made a map with his friends in order to find everything.
It's literally the best map design in the history of Zelda.
>>344018735
That was always part of the fun. Sitting around with your friends trying to figure something out. I'm not saying Legend of Zelda has the best design or is the best game to ever grace the Earth, but I'd love to go back to the days when games didn't hold your hand and throw tutorials in your face, because they think the modern gamer can't function on a basic level.
>>344016521
>the first good Zelda is Adventures of Link.
>>344018735
I remember played early dungeoncrawlers and being the most hardcore I got to every floor first and shared my maps. With newer games I stepped up by drawing by using a ruler making them look super neat. Best part was as you passed the map around it would get stains from every place it was giving it some kind of pirate map beaten look.
I dont think I could handle drawing maps in the current day and age but still it was pretty fun to do.
8 and 9 seem to be in really obtuse spots, but when you realize there's no other areas like them in the game is kind of sticks out.
I stumbled on both early on in my first playthrough.
>>344017052
no one said board in arcades either, it was stage or level. Are you one of those faggots who say "toon" for player character too?
>>344019996
>No one around me said this term so it was never said.
I bet you also operate under the logic of "I can't see them so they can't see me."
>>344020196
>"it's common around where i am, so everyone should know what it means!"
good going derp
>>344020196
Go ahead and name a single arcade game used that term.
Now when you can't do that. Reference it's use somewhere.
When you can't do that call me a faggot because you only option is to bluff.
>>344016718
>>344020196
Just stop.
>>344020846
>Go ahead and name a single arcade game used that term.
Board Runner
>Now when you can't do that. Reference it's use somewhere.
My ass
>When you can't do that call me a faggot because you only option is to bluff.
gg fag
>>344020846
All I said in my original post was in the region I grew up in it was a popular phrase to use when referring to different levels. Your argument of "No around me has ever used it, therefore it isn't a thing" is retarded.
>>344013383
It's probably actually a retarded variant, like when people call controllers "paddles"
>>344019383
Grimrock has their own version of this; a mode where you have to draw your own map. It doesn't work as well in that game due to the height on some maps making it very confusing, but overall I'd say those games are a good callback to those games.fuck crabs though.
>>344021547
>it's a popular phrase in my area, so everyone should know what it means!
this is retarded logic, too.
>>344012205
>finding the magic sword
>finding level 7
>figuring out the lost woods
All harder than finding level 9. The game conditions you to bomb things that are shaped like those boulders. You are literally a retard if you didn't find level 9 before you were equipped to go there.
>>344016521
There's a clue that leads you to pretty much everything you need though.
>>344016521
that doesn't make sense as nintendo power was america only
>>344019487
>I stumbled on both early on in my first playthrough.
This is something that I look forward to seeing come back.
>>344022101
I don't remember ever saying everyone should know it. Please show me where this was said and when you can't use an insult as a retort because you lack basic reading comprehension skills.
>>344016683
What the fuck are you doing on /v/ and why are you arguing about someone using the term board? Cool your aged tits and stop throwing around buzzwords.
Not to sound too "it was better back in my day", but anyone else who grew up with these games probably agrees that we just sort of gain a sense for suspicious locations like that. I mean just look at it, its a wall thats not part of the edge of the map and its flat on the bottom facing side. Youd be an idiot not to try bombing it
>>344021203
>Board Runner
Looks like it doesn't exist. Are you from a parallel dimension? You'd better go save Arturo again.
>>344022363
Here you go
>>344012205
Most people would say "level 9" or "dungeon 9," because its standard. You posting "board 9" implies you think the phrase is common.
>>344022753
Idiots don't realize that these games were made so you would buy nintendo magazines for hints or call expensive nintendo hotline service for hints
It was a scam for children
>>344021547
So what you're saying is that you have no way of proving you pulled that phrase out of your ass?
There's a hint in the game.
Also, you should've learned by then that suspicious looking areas should be bombed/candled.
>>344022917
Not all of us had access to those so you got a feel for a lot of these things. Then theres things like castevania 2 where if i remember right the translation just leaves you confused.
>>344022323
And didn't exist until two years after Zelda 1 came out
>>344022878
I'm fully aware of "level" and "dungeon" being the standard. But guess what I'm not the op so try again dipshit.
>>344023050
Again it falls back to your shit logic of
>Well it wasn't said where I grew up so that means he pulled it out of his ass right? There's no way people use different words for the same thing all around the country.
>>344022874
>he never heard of Board Runner
you're not fit for /v/
>>344016683
This.
No one ever said this unless they were actually retarded. It was by no means the norm. Underage hipsters are the only ones who say it now because of le Danny from GoomGramps xD
>>344012205
>board
>>344023240
i'm fully aware of regional differences
why the hell would anyone post regional slang on a board that has people "all around the country"/all around the world, though? it'd be simpler to stick to level/dungeon, so we won't have idiotslike usarguing about semantics
>>344012391
>board 9
???
thats level 10. level 9 was the one with the really obvious bush in the middle of the path, bet you thought that was obscure and random too
>>344023050
Holy fuck anon, why is this so goddamn important to you. Who hurt you?
>>344022917
Game came out before either of those things.
If you think Zelda 1 is unfair, you're an idiot. Try playing a game like Castlevania 2 to get a taste of what an unfair adventure game is.
>>344016683
There's something very sad about seeing a 35 year old use the term "normie".
>>344023653
I can't even imagine a person who says Zelda 1 is unfair playing a game like Wizardry. Now that was obtuse.
>>344023548
Level 8 was the one under the bush idiot.
OP may seem retarded for calling levels boards, but at least he got the number right.
>>344023792
oh yeah
>>344023586
op did, with his lack of self awareness
>>344023737
there's something sad about you bitching about terms people use
>>344023534
I mean you're probably right it makes more sense to use terms that are the global norm then something people stopped saying twenty-five years ago. I'm not defending op's use of the term board, as no one says it anymore, just that it was a term used at one point in time. So for that I'll apologize.
>yfw op probably used the term "board" to confuse and irritate an entire thread
>>344012205
>SPECTACLE ROCK IS AN ENTRANCE TO DEATH
>find rock formation in the shape of eyeglasses
oh man I just can't put two and two together hurr durr
>>344019383
>hardcore geeks passing around a map to each other
>it would get stains
So you shared your dried cum with each other. Nice.
>>344023876
>>344012205
Didn't the game come with a map that show where everything was?
>>344023653
Nigga, the only reason CV2 is notorious is because nothing in the game tells you you need to crouch while having the blue and red orbs selected. Everything else can easily be found out by thoroughly exploring. Hell, the only thing temotely unfair is how easy the bosses are, since you can abuse such cheap tactics against them.
>two suspicious-looking rocks
>9 dungeons in, after thoroughly learning to bomb everything to find secrets
>old man flat-out says HEY CHECK THOSE TWO ROCKS OUT MAH BOI
I found its entrance long before I even got all of the pieces of the Triforce, because it's a REALLY OBVIOUS TELL. You, OP, are just a fucking moron who will probably post ~30 min from now "lol i was only pretending to be retarded"
>>344024193
It had a little bit more than half the map, but I also think it said that Ganon is on top of Death Mountain, so that somewhat narrows it down to the top strip of the map.
I mean obviously OP is always a trolling fuck, but there really are people who would get angry about something
>things that happened 5-10 years before I was born don't make perfect sense to me, GOD, old people are so dumb!
>>344012693
But how would you know two giant rock tits are meant to be "spectacles"?
>>344024126
i mean, i'm from Newfoundland. i wouldn't post "yis b'y" and expect everyone here to know what it means. (i can't think of a gaming-specific thing from my area, so pardon that.)
my main issue was that OP seemed to expect that "board" was still in wide circulation, when it was used by like five people in his suburban town in 1994 or whatever. making a mountain out of a molehill and all that.
>tfw we both fell into OP's trap
>>344016521
Zelda II gets shit on so much, but it's actually much more fair in terms of giving you hints on where to go. nothing in that game approaches the levels of "how was I supposed to know that" bullshit that Zelda 1's 2nd quest has.
>>344024654
That's just what people name things like that.
I live right near two lakes next to each other called Spectacle Lakes.
>>344024708
>yowsah
What did he mean by this?
It's one of the only spots in the game which literally screams 'BOMB ME'. The first time I walked past there I knew there had to be a cave there somewhere but I got murdered before I could try.
>>344022608
Look a 16 year old on 4chan. Who would have known?
>>344021547
People used to refer to levels as boards where I was from too. I think it was do to early games being simillar to board games.
>>344024654
because it's the only thing in the game shaped like glasses
>>344025410
Are you from South America by any chance?
>>344012205
I found it on my own out of curiousity for the fact that it's twin rocks in the middle of nowhere, I remember bombing the face of both rocks, then found the door with my last bomb.
Then I found the NPC that tells you the hidden secret in spectacle rock. It happens in open world games.
>>344022874
>Never heard of board runner
Holy shit, look at this fag
>>344025506
PA
>Older games involve moving around a board
>Mario 3 loz chipndale etc
>When you lose you go back to start
Im nearly 30, and board was used by the adults when i was a kid. Its as dated as "paddles" but dont be a faggot and fight with people about it
Just be thankful the entrance was at the front of the rocks and not on their backside, or you'd really be frustrated.
>>344025506
Are you from sweden, faggot?
>>344025874
Where is it in the master quest?
I seem to recall since the second quest was just a bonus when they realized they could fit it, they decided to make everything as obtuse as they felt like.
>>344012313
Same reason a lot of games from back then have obnoxious design. A combination of compensating for minimal memory and having little reference material.
>mfw I'm like the only person on the face of the planet who unironically loves Adventure of Link
Did you ever play the game without a guide as a kid? you're literally bombing everything in your way.
Board is a holdover from the days when all the action took place on a single screen and advancing in the game actually changed the "board" you played on. Also, in the case of LoZ, it could be argued that it is similar to a grid-based "board" that a group would play on a tabletop, like DnD or some shit.
World is a section of a game that features a similar naming or design structure. For example: 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, and 4-4 in Super Mario Bros. are all part of World 4. Many modern action games use the more military sounding Mission for this.
Level and Stage are interchangeable and is each individual part of a world that has a beginning and an end. Using the above example, you would point to Level 4-1.
>my aunt used to say board.
>while bullet bills fly across the screen she would say "is this the bulletin board?"
heh.
>>344012205
This is one of the few bomb locations I found on my own. Those boulders just look so suspicious.
