Is this prebuilt good? It comes out to $1,143 after I use a coupon and I'm scared of building my own
>>344008158
looks good mate go for it
>>344008158
It's actually not too bad but you can build better for cheaper.
It also looks horrible
>>344008158
That case gives me cancer
>1200 for a 700 dollar rig
yes go for it
>>344008329
I agree with that anon, guts looks fine.
the case looks horrible and you could save some money doing it yourself
but it's pretty good. if you're going to buy a prebuilt regardless of what people tell you, i'd go with this.
>windows 10
Dropped
>>344008158
>paying 1k for a fucking pre-build
>>344008158
Wow PC gaming is so superior guys.
I love having to learn to assemble machinery to play games without paying upwards of a thousand dollars.
>>344008158
Know this feel my man, I had help building my current rig but I don't know if I could do it by myself.
wiring up the motherboard makes me nervous, everything else is pretty easy it seems
>>344008530
It's actually very simple, but admittedly still too difficult for the average retard, sorry.
>>344008530
Nigga you just put stuff in the right spot. You can watch a 5 minute youtube video on it and be fine.
its not really that bad of a deal considering it comes with a windows OS, and the cost of the 1070 being high right now, you will need a hard drive though, so i added a 500gig ssd
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVszM8
>>344008560
Literally just plugging shit in. Static protection doesn't actually matter either. I've never used static gloves, bags, or grounding myself.
>>344008158
>I'm scared of building my own
Just end your life famicom, you don't deserve to be on /v/.
>>344008680
The fuck it's nearly the same
How are they profiting off this?
>>344008347
>That case gives me cancer
They're one of the few who make aesthetic cases though
>>344008778
by buying parts in bulk wholesale
>>344008778
They probably got bloatware installed that they get a bit of cash for as well as actual manufacturer deals compared to MSRP.
>>344008778
they get seller discount / bulk discount on parts and OEM stuff and windows keys
then they pay some teens minimum wage or less to assemble it
>>344008560
>wiring up the motherboard makes me nervous
its literally just plugging things in
hory shet, an actual retard could do it
>>344008889
It just makes me nervous because I value my money and might fuck it up
>>344008357
>700 dollar rig
Find me a 1070 and 6700 alone for $700.
>>344008158
What's the catch here?
the power supply?
cpu, mobo, ram, gpu all look great
>>344008530
Most of us did it when we were 12. Before Youtube.
>>344008889
This is what makes people go off the walls
Tiny -/+ shit led power shit
>>344008993
>Before Youtube.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here
>>344009046
Retard here, what does this image imply
Also lets say you build your own, once you have all the parts in working order, how do you install your OS? Do you seriously just turn it on and put the disk in?
>>344009046
Everyone whose never done it before are worried about bent pins, shit doesn't happen any more.
Everything else is reading the manual to see what plugs into where and then cable management.
PC partpicker fucking tells you if parts are compatible so that's not even and issue anymore.
>>344009139
yes? that's one way.
You can also make a bootable usb stick with windows on it and install from that
No prebuilt is ever good for the price.
>>344009139
Windows installation is no harder than an average application these days, it's not rocket science
>>344008158
as far as prebuilts go, that actually looks fine
the specs are reasonable, the price is okay- you aren't being gouged though it is a bit higher than building it yourself
I say go for it honestly
>>344009237
What's bad about this one though?
I really want to know.
I wouldn't get it, but it seems very fair. Great cpu, mobo, gpu, ram
even a gold cert psu
i think the i7 is alittle over kill anyway, for 100 bucks less you can get the i5
the 1070 is super over priced right now cuz of low supply and high demand, so who knows there
hard drives are relatively cheap, but still adds up here
>>344008992
decent corsair psu
>>344008913
its pretty hard to fuck it up
unless you outright drop a component on a hard ground surface like tile or something they're pretty durable anyway.
>>344009046
more expensive mobos come with a little adaptor that allows you to plug in the small connectors there at like face distance, and then you plug that whole chip into those pins, its super easy
>>344009139
implies that its annoying to plug in little connectors on little pins at a wierd angle that you can't see too well because its probably inside of the case already, and the pins can be placed in different spots depending on the mobo manufacturer, and you have to check the manual to see where the pins go. also see above.
>install OS
if you have a cd drive (lol) yes you push the disk in and turn it on. the computer finds the disk and dumps the install files to your ram, and it installs from there
otherwise, you use a USB stick to install OSes now a days.
>>344008530
>I love having to learn to assemble machinery to play games
Do you have a friend that could help you assemble a build? Seriously, even paying some random person $20 to assemble it would be a better deal than most prebuilts (although I think the one in OPs is decently priced, the problem is the i7 is overkill in my opinion.) I believe Microcenter charges a small fee for it, in fact if you're spending hundreds of dollars they might even build it for free.
>>344008158
Just realized what they're skimping out on. The hard drives / SSD
>>344009139
Oh that? It's still simple. Just the power connectors for the front of the pc. Like the power putton on a case, the usb on the case and the lights. You need to connect them to the motherboard but there's a few of them and they're small so it looks confusing. It's still simple shit since everything is labeled.
I was just saying that it might intimidate people because it's small even though it slides right in.
>>344009332
only real downside is that it is a small form factor pc, everything is kind of squished together real tight in there and would be a headache for anyone to service if need be.
my problem is that im not really seeing any storage devices, i would definitely get a nice big SSD
>>344009139
You simply enter the boot menu during startup and select the disc drive.
You could also copy the disc image and make a bootable USB drive, which is faster than an optical disc.
In fact if you buy a retail copy of Windows now, they come on a USB 3.0 drive instead of a DVD.
>>344008913
>I value my money
>that's why I spend more to get less
Got it.
>neo /v/ buys pre builts
>neo /v/ is actually thinking this is a good deal
for fuck's sake you stupid retards. just buy the parts and pay to have a local shop assemble it if you're too much of a monkey. DO NOT BUY PRE BUILT
>>344008158
sounds great OP I'd pick one up. Solid build at a decent price.
>>344009871
>Solid build at a decent price
it's a shit build and you're paying $300 more for nothing
also the ddr4
>lmao
>>344009772
Oh no paying an extra 100 for the ease, technical skill, warranty, compatibility knowledge and overclocking what a nightmare.
>>344008560
>wiring up the motherboard makes me nervous
>Chord has thing written on the plastic part
>Motherboard has same thing written on plastic part written where you plug it in
>Plug it in
If you've build a fucking lego set you can build a computer.
The only problem I had with building mine was that I put the ram in the wrong slots at first, since it had slots for normal ram and DDR3 ram. All I had to do was pop it back open and put them in the right place.
fair warning, bought this same computer
>lasted 4 months before blue screening
>ventilation is terrible this thing overheats
>some of the usb ports and hdmi ports didnt work cause ???
after returning it when it was fully destroyed, customer support told me they didnt have replacement so i figured it was discontinued
>>344008158
>non-K cpu
waste of money
>>344008158
The price isn't that bad considering the guts.
However, one of the big benefits of building your own machine is that you can re-use the case and many other components when you get ready to upgrade, saving a considerable amount of money.
With a tiny little case like that you're likely to have problems getting new components to fit. You also have to worry about how much heat any new components will produce, since there isn't a lot of airflow in such a tight space.
>>344010073
i told you it's an extra $300
>warranty
every piece you buy has warranty on it
>technical skill
ok, so we've established you're a retard already. you'll still save money by taking it to a shop and have them assemble
>compatibility knowledge
it's not even a fucking thing. just don't buy a motherboard made in 2004 and don't waste money on ddr4 ram that will be useless to you
wow that was hard! stop being a pussy
>>344009413
I was a bit curious so I went over there and made it myself. It even comes with a sandisk SSD 512 gb drive
Now I'm wondering where the corners are being cut since the hardware is all there. It's not generic parts
Though personally I'd save even more by getting an i5 k cpu. Are i7s even necessary?
>>344010075
The manual that comes with the motherboard also has diagrams for everything if you have trouble reading the small text printed on the board.
>no HDD
>>344010380
i7 is overkill for gaming right now
unless you're playing some game that has to crunch prime numbers?
>>344010530
Doesn't dx12/vulkan make use of 6 cores?
It's honestly not that bad of a price, could still do cheaper if you did it yourself.
Like $200 cheaper.
also
>scared of building a pc
it's literally like building legos, you must be some special kind of dumb.
>>344010073
>ease
Building a computer is already easy as fuck, and it takes like 45 minutes.
>Technical skill
Technical skill that can be learned from watching Youtube tutorials on how to build a PC
>Warranty
Buy warranties for your parts. You don't even have to send back the entire PC if you do.
>Compatibility knowledge
PC Part Picker only lets you pick compatible parts if you turn on a filter.
>Overclocking
>what a nightmare
Youtube tutorials again. Buy a good CPU cooler too, faggot.
It's like you've literally never had to do any type of DIY task in your entire life that required getting outside information to do.
>>344010530
So why not future proof a little.
>>344008158
Go for this instead m8
https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-battlebox-cyclone-sli-nvidia-gaming-pc
>>344010580
Is DX12/Vulcan relevant or will be in the next couple of years?
>>344010380
i5 vs i7 depends on what you're using it for.
Non-gaming applications like video encoding benefit the most from it, but most modern game engines do make use of the additional threads now.
How much of a performance increase you get still varies hugely from game to game though. Even on the same engine, one game might stress the CPU much more than another.
>>344008778
Did you miss out on the part where this guy shoved an SSD in there to jack up the cost? Also the current 1070 prices are from scalper shit rather than the actual MSRP.
>>344010380
Yes if you want to run things like hairworks
>>344010882
The prebuilt in the op also has a 500GB ssd
>>344010882
i also added the like extra $100 for a windows key
this shows you that building it yourself costs the same, you're technically saving money on this build with the pre built on top of the time you save putting it together and installing the os
only real concern is the shipping, i could definitely be damaged in shipping if they don't pad it enough, or your carrier throws it around like crazy. gunna have to pay a pretty penny for decent shipping.
>>344010373
>buy DDR3 on a new build in 2016
No, you're the retard.
>>344011135
Built it two years ago, cuck. I'm also a poorfag so I was on a budget.
>>344011178
No you're the cuckold
>>344011268
No, you're the cuckold, cuckboy.
>>344011178
Built what two years ago? OP's hypothetical build? WTF are you talking about?
Retard.
>>344008530
>Calls gaming a hobby
>Only willing to put in a bare minimum of effort
I'll never understand why some consolefags wear "I know fuck all about how my games and game machine function" as a badge of honor.
>>344008530
I went for a prebuilt, shit ended up having a cheap PSU and taking out my graphics card with it.
Swapped out a few parts since then, realised shits at worst as complex as a 100 piece puzzle. There's an endless amount of videos and guides on pretty much any specific part of putting it together you can imagine, after the first couple times you'll be able to upgrade/build an entirely new rig whenever you want
>>344008850
Jesus christ, the cramped up parts, the lack of airflow... Enjoy your melted parts.
>>344011594
And still not get laid!
$700 of parts + 5 hours of worth installation troubleshooting services and warranties that are superfluous to someone who knows how to build a PC.
>>344011931
Why are you in this thread?
>>344011957
People who were waiting for you to interject = 0
People who's lives are better with your input = 0
>>344008923
dont take the bait brah!!!.
>>344012006
clearly got bored of juggling his several bodacious partners
Just bought this, poor buildfags need not apply. I buy a pc once every 15 years, not going to waste time learning how.
https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/overclocked-custom-gaming-pc-uk-nvidia-sli-carbonextremesli
>>344012027
Rather than ignoring him, he made you reply.
>>344013185
Great job
>>344012487
>poor buildfags
See the thing about building a PC is that a so called "buildfag" could spend just as much as you, yet get a flat out better computer. There's nothing "poor" about building your own, it's just smart because there's no extra labour costs or parts markup, you can spend that money on better parts instead.
>once every 15 years
Yeah, that's flat out bullshit. The average lifespan of a HDD is 5 years, and your other parts will be obsolete/crap out shortly after that.
>>344010649
Because that's retarded. When the time comes and you actually need that power the price will have plummeted.
>>344008158
you're an idiot for buying a prebuilt and an even bigger idiot for buying an i7 for video games
>>344008347
hey I have that same dakimakura
Just build one.
FX8370, asus m5a97 R2.0, cheap 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 2TB HDD, seasonic G 650W, cryorig H7, corsair 200R, AMD RX480
Will be cheaper, higher quality, looks better and is upgradable. The GTX 1070 is overpriced as fuck.
>>344017585
What is a FX8370? How do you remember those numbers?
Same with m5a97 R2.0 is that the motherboard?
What about cryorig H7? Is the the case? If so, what's corsair 200R?
What is AMD's competing graphics card to the GTX1080?
What about putting two RX490's into a computer, is that going to be comparable to a $500+ graphics card?
>>344019278
cryorig H7 is the cpu cooler, which is optional if you pick the 8370.
The FX8370 is a good mid range cpu.
You can also get the cheaper FX8320e if you want to save some cash. It doesnt overclock as well, but it should be able to hit 4.2Ghz with the cryorig H7.
Corsair 200R is the case. Corsair cases are perfect for people new to building a PC.
AMD currently doesnt have a card equal to the 1080, but they will release in fall.
The RX480 is about as strong as the GTX 980 and is a perfect card for 1080p and 1440p.
Putting 2 RX480s in crossfire should perform about as well as a 1080 if its supported in the game.
And you kind of get used to the numbers.
>>344019776
>legit reply
Huh, thanks anon, I appreciate it.
If you're up for more questions, I've always heard people talk about overclocking their stuff, but I've never had the guts to do it myself. How important is overclocking? I see it mentioned in pretty much every review for parts.
As far as I'm aware you just need to make sure you have a serious cooling system first, then it's fine?
>>344008680
To be fair you can get Windows keys for like $20 off leddit
>>344019278
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JmCf8K
Slightly different parts, but not much has changed.
>>344020098
How important overclocking is depends on the cpu.
The 8370 already has a high clockspeed, so you dont really need it. (and it also comes with the new wraith cooler, so you dont need an additional cooler)
The 8320e has a low clockspeed and overclocking is really important on that one.
Takes about an hour. Increase clockspeed, stresstest (about 15 minutes), increase it again, stresstest.
If it crashes, increase the cpu voltage a bit and stresstest again until its stable.
And watch the temps, it shouldnt go above 70C during full load.
>>344020441
Bored
>>344020098
OCing is just a matter of changing some numbers in bios and running a cpu stress test and seeing if it breaks. if it doesn't you bump it up a level and keep going until it does break and take it down a peg. it's nice to do because you're basically getting a good chunk of extra performance for little to no extra cost
>>344008530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_gfhicvvmE
Why are console kiddies so dump?
>>344008680
As a Canadian this makes me want to kill myself
>>344008158
Looks like a fucking printer. You could order all these parts and put it together in like a few hours.
This is coming from someone who plays exclusively on PS4 right now.
>>344008158
>paying +$1000 for a glorified console
Enjoy all the "high end" PC exclusives
>>344020683
9 years old is pretty impressive, but he probably had someone to teach him.
I built my first when I was 14, there was no youtube and the assembly wasn't quite as idiot-proof back then.
>>344008158
It's actually not a completely terrible deal considering you have a really small case and custom cooling. But to get basically the same exact game performance but maybe minus 1-5fps in certain situations in CPU heavy strategy games you could save a couple hundred bucks considering that you pirate Win7 or 10..
>>344009046
>tfw when only ever plug in power switch
>>344009332
heat. small for factor has shit air flow and builds up dust quick. Heat will kill it faster than you think.
>>344008158
Doesn't look too bad but I'm not up to date with the prices for CPUs right now, he PSU seem rather weak though but then again I haven't looked up the power consume of the 1070.
>>344021227
>glorified console
The difference between a PS4 and an i5 / i7 + 1070 build is the difference between Totinos pizza rolls and a legit New York slice. Mama fucking Mia.
>>344008158
>the only 1070 you can find for MSRP is stuck in a prebuilt
lel buildfags on suicide watch
>>344008158
The Alienware Alpha R2 is better and upgradeable.
>>344022918
>a legit New York slice
Is it really that good? I live in Europe
>>344022075
Are you crazy? Don't you want led lights to see the status?
>>344024983
I actually don't know but according to all movies and media and anyone that's ever had it yes it's that good.
>>344025081
There's two statuses: It's on or it's off.
>>344024983
Depends where you go. As someone who lives in NYC for 25+ years now, some of them can be crappy.
But most of them are pretty good. When I'm on vacation to somewhere else, and I find a pizzeria that says "Authentic New York Slices" it always tastes like shit.
So maybe even the crappy NYC slices are better than those.
Fuck, now I'm hungry.
>mfw modding my 360 and soldering my controller with a rapid fire chip was harder than building a pc
>>344008680
>its not really that bad of a deal considering it comes with a windows OS
but windows is free
:^)
>>344025929
>soldering my controller with a rapid fire chip
no kidding. I still have the burn scars on my hand
>>344008347
Get out of here Linus, I won't buy that new shitty AMD card
looks small
where does all the heat go?
>>344025949
>"free"
Piracy isn't free, there's a hefty toll to pay for breaking the law if justice serves you rightfully. I hope you choke on your next meal you criminal degenerate scum.
If you're gonna buy the latest i7, you might as well go all out, instead of settling on cheaper parts
>H110 mobo
Go for Z170, get an SSD. I wouldn't recommend m.2 yet though.
>600W PSU
Corsair is good, but it really limits any future upgrades, SLI in your case
>6700
Its not a 6700k. Seems like they're just getting parts nobody really wants for cheap and slapping them together
>storage
Maybe I'm blind, but I can't see an HDD/SSD anywhere
>>344008329
Can you build it smaller and cheaper though?
>>344026869
go away, bill
>>344008158
Honestly, it's not that bad.
Price is fair enough for a pre-built. Of course, you'll always be able to build it yourself for cheaper, but if you're too scared to, this isn't as much of a rip off as you'll usually see.
>>344008158
Not gonna find a better deal than that. Good job OP. You may want to think about buyin another one for backup purposes. Don't wanna get caught not being able to play TF2 if your PC conks out!!!
>>344026402
It's actually a lot bigger than it looks. Which is a bad thing, by the way.
>>344027072
>>344026402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgRiqXbyuI
It's literally made to dissipate heat efficiently.
And if you fucking hate the case you can literally take out all the parts and transfer it to another one.
Course if you do you need to get over the fear of building a pc
ITT: Virgiones
>>344027683
looks good
if I wanted a pc, I'd probaly buy it
What are some good console sized cases for a PC build? I want to build something for living room gaming.
You'd have to have a serious amount of chromosomes to fuck up building a computer nowadays.
>>344010958
Are you sure? I tried to match OP build in the same site and it came out $1250 with the smallest and cheapest SSD.
I don't know how OP managed to get it as low as $1200 before coupon with that spec.
>>344028075
Because im not a retard like you
Guys, I made a mistake. Can it be fixed?
>>344028395
>inb4 'spoiler tag that shit asshole'
is a 750ti worth it if im poor as fuck when upgrading my own pc
if not then what is the amd equivalent since those are always cheaper
(only have like $110 to spend)
>>344028369
>Pre built pc
>Not a retard
You only get one, anon.
>>344028652
Il
I have a job so i dont have the time nor the prerequisite sexual abstinence to undertake a computer science degree for the sake of saving a few dollars.
>>344028395
Order some loose pins and make sure all the holes are filled with the new unbent pins and heat each pin tip with a micro soldering iron to make sure each pin melds correctly when you place the CPU into the socket.
>>344028893
>undertake a computer science degree
It's literally legos, assuming you bought matching parts the only problem you'll have is finding the right pins to plug the case power switch into on the motherboard, but most motherboards nowadays have a little diagram that shows you where the power switch goes.
>>344028465
sorry
>>344028942
OK, what's the best way to swab out the paste?
>>344029142
> soldering
> plugs
> my interest
One of these things does not belong with the others
>>344008158
>Console sized case somehow fits a full sized 1070
>Consoles only can fit shit laptop tier GPU's
Hmm...
Really though its not bad spec wise I've seen anons get ripped off with way worse specs for more than that. I would be worried about cooling but apparently its not bad.
>>344009186
Built a pc a while ago and I was trying to figure out what was wrong with the 3.0 front usb panel
One of the pins were bent, got a pair of pliers and bent it back into place
It happens but it's not hard.
>>344029378
You don't solder anything. The only tool required to build a pc is a screwdriver
I have a 7850 should I go for the 1070 if I just want maxed out 1080p?
>>344028075
Yea I made one similar to OP for 1,139
I think op removed the os. A good move imo, since that shit is windows 10 OEM and costs way too much when he can pirate or get a key for 25 bucks
>>344009046
my case had single connector that plugs into that thing, no need to individually to plug those small cables. Plus they are all listed in the mobo's manual anyway, shits easy.
>>344029860
If you want to future proof your self for a couple of years yeah. Otherwise you could get a 980 for about a hundred bucks cheaper.
>>344029147
For that you'll need to mix 50/50 lighter fluid and gasoline in a cup, it's an old remedy for removing excessive thermal paste and it works a lot better than rubbing alcohol, so mix it up and get a toothbrush, you'll want to make sure you get all of it off so you'll need a close light source right next to your face, but normal LED lights or lamps with normal bulbs can radiate heat that can short circuit the motherboard, so to be safe you're gonna need some candles or a torch to be able to see correctly what you're doing, place about 3 or 4 candles around the motherboard and begin dunking the toothbrush into the gas mix and start scrubbing the socket until the paste starts coming off, don't be afraid to poor some of the mixture onto the socket if it's hard to get off. Just use a candle / torch while pouring to better see and make sure none of the lighter fluid mix gets outside the socket.
>>344030020
>he uses a q-connector
never took off the training wheels on your bike either eh kid?
>>344030034
I've stuck with my 7850 for around 4 years, so yeah don't want to do incremental upgrades.
>>344029860
>>344030034
>>344030229
I don't know what i should do, I also have a 7850 and for the most part I'm fine with it except for I hate not being able to use decent ENB's in games like New Vegas and Skyrim without my FPS dropping to shit and Witcher 3 runs like garbage on it, and right now I haven;t really been buying AAA games since Dark Souls 3 and luckily DaSIII runs okay on it, but I am now getting a little worried about games coming out 6 months to a year from now and how they'll perform on my 7850.
>>344030137
It wasn't even that thing, just a single connector for all front-panel shit(outside of the usb ports).
Also its not my first build either, but those cables/connectors aren't as nearly complicated as people say/think.
>>344030084
You got baited, newfriend. Read the filename.
>>344030229
>>344030614
The only thing you should do is wait for the 490. Or the first card with HBM2. You fags seem to want something that will last for years. Nvidia isn't the place to be for that. My 770 is choking vs the 290s
Don't buy a prebuilt, even if you don't want to build yourself. Use a site or computer store that builds PC's and select the parts yourself, after which they will build it for you for a small fee. That way you have a "built" PC that you can upgrade later (I don't care how you feel about building an entire PC, it's extremely simple to remove a GPU and replace it with another) and the parts won't be absolute dogshit cheap garbage for a premium price.
if you aren't a retarded amputee you can build your own
>>344028893
Holy shit you're a retard. My 13 year old nephew just built a pc from scratch. Also,
>Hurr durr computers are for virgins
I don't think you could be a bigger pleb if you tried.
>>344029147
>>344028395
Am I in 2000 again
>>344031139
This!
I never understood why its always the same argument about prebuilt vs build it yourself.
There are stores where they assemble it for you.
