Can a 30 year old enjoy games? Are any games actually made for intelligent grown ups?
I cant seem to enjoy any games except grand strategy once in a while(will probably try Stellaris in about two years after they actually finish it).
Most games just feel tedious as hell and always have some contrived goals and win conditions.
Or have FPS hella fuck*n epic gameplay.
This is partially why I like grand strategy games and games like civ these days.
They are long enough so I can feel as if im in a properly simulated game world that can just keep going indefinitely.
I wish Dwarf fortress was designed by a proper team and was balanced out and updated for multi core systems..
Why are there no games with PROPERLY COMPLEX simulations with no retarded end game goals and a shit ton of emergent gameplay(but not some fucking lego variant like minecraft)?
Plenty of games for adults. It's just you who chose to play games for children.
>>343994001
I'm 33 and you're a fucking moron.
>>343994001
if you were really mature you wouldn't be asking a bunch of 16 year olds who just discovered the concept of irony for suggestions
>>343994282
No, im not gonna play some autistic flight simulator. I want comples simulation but intuitive easy to learn controls.
Not a game where i have to memorize instructions for hours before i can even start playing. I have a job, I dont need another one.
Im not a moron, on the contrary, i am an intelligent person who cant find any games actually made for intelligent people as oppose to 30 year old manchildren.
>>343994001
You're not intelligent, read your post back carefully and you'll find that you're an adult acting like an entitled child.
The average gamer is like 35.
Perhaps it is you that needs to grow up, anon.
>I want games for intelligent grown ups
>I don't want to learn
>Complex games are autistic
I'm58and I enjoy games.
Just finished Witcher 3 and loved it. Have to play on easy though. Just not good enough.
>29
>Do the 9 to 5
>Don't get very far into complicated games because I don't have the time to learn everything
>Don't get very far into simple games because I get bored
>Keep playing Total War because it's familiar
It's like I'm in that movie Ground Hog Day, only I'm not Bill Murray and there's nothing I can do to bang that girl.
29 lvl here
I don't play anything new and popular like overwatch for example, it's a nice game for sure but mostly for kids and horny teenagers
same goes for most AAA games but i do enjoy crpg tittles like pillars of eternity or underrail very much and i'm even kinda hyped for new torment and tyranny
also souls games, they're just so good and fun to play especially the first one, pure gameplay experience
I think most of us older guys can still enjoy video games but only the best or the most unique ones plus games from our favourite genres
I still love homm 3 and i'm playing it right now having fun
so yes OP, 30 years old guys can still enjoy video games just like we can still enjoy a good book or a movie, but don't expect be be happy when playing some typical AAA trash like overwatch and other braindead murder simulators like skyrim or fallout 4 designated for teens in mind
check out the older games from your favourite genres, make a list of games that seem interesting to you and enjoy other things besides gaming
>>343994559
>>343995547
Please explain that capture.
31, I'm pretty sure adults who claim they never lost the drive for vidya have played like a solid10% of the games of people the same age that lost the drive before hitting 30. That's the key factor, burnout. You would know if you spoke with most well adjusted adults who still play vidya past 30.
>>343994001
nope
from GS you'll move on to video pinball and then finally Mah-Jong
it's over
>>343994001
33 here. I play whatever the fuck I can between changing nappies and bottle feeds. Being a Dad means y barely get time for a BF4 round let alone a good rpg.
>>343994001
I'm 30; I turn 31 in September.
Winter is coming.
These days I enjoy games that are plot heavy, have a interesting story-line or are thought provoking.
SOMA
Amnesia
Ether One
Dear Esther
Ethan Carter
I play FPS games for the campaign if it looks interesting like MW2, Black Ops, Titanfall 2, Battlefield 3 but don't bother with the multiplayer.
>>343994001
Stop playing video games if you don't have plenty of time
>>343994001
I turned 35 last month. I am playing games a lot more now, I am playing a lot of these cheap anime-themed visual novels on steam... I can't stop it. I don't even watch anime, I'm not much of a neckbeard at all. This is all new to me. I've been on /v/ since 2007 and throughout the years here, I always considered myself one of the older (in terms of age) posters who were probably more adjusted than the average /v/irgin. Been here a while, never got into anime, don't fap to 2D, those things etc.
Games I enjoyed discussing on /v/ throughout the years were always things like Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock.. you know, those circa 00 games that if you've played one, you've probably played most that I just listed, and there are other titles that can be bundled there.
I really don't know what it is, I grow older, I feel more educated, I'm more successful than ever, but I can't stop playing these cheesy, cheap, crude anime looking games. I just stare at these girls with huge eyes and big smiles all day, and I smile back. I think it's childish and I think that's why I like it.
>>343994001
Who cares if you are intelligent or not? Just play vidya that is fun.
I'm 31, and I play whenever I can. Which is quite a lot, since my job's piss-easy.
>>343995867
I've never seen anything wrong with playing on easy, especially for story heavy games.
>41
>still playing video games
>never married or have kids
>perusing career that allows plenty of free time in early stages
Generation Y is full of pussies though. FFS at least you aren't smoking crack.
>>343994001
>30 years old
>STILL cant admit/realize games are nothing more than dumb time killers
>>343994001
Play Journey or Amnesia in a room by yourself with the lights off. Let yourself become immersed in the experience the game creates and you'll find that you don't need a game to feed your ego to get enjoyment from it.
>>343995547
those some ugly ass orbits famalam
Hey OP I'm 29 and I play games like Dark souls, DMC, preordered, Kof14, FF15 and TLG. Am I manchild?
>>343996992
You're either living or dying.
Once you hit your half-life, senpai.
>>343995893
I go to college 40 hours each week and still find the time to play Arma, Witcher 3, Subnautica, and Elite, all while writing music and making straight As.
Are 9 to 5 jobs that draining?
>>343996992
>STILL cant admit/realize games are nothing more than dumb time killers
same goes for movies right? oh wait, movies are even more dump time killers because they're passive experiences
>>343996940
>having kids
>spreading the disease of life
>>343997085
>FF15
>DMC
>Am I manchild?
yes, who cares tho
>>343997093
Your half-life could be at 15 years old and you just don't know it yet.
>>343994001
>buy AAA shit made for kids.
>Complain all games are for kids.
>>343997382
Panzer corps is a wargame for kids though.
>>343997137
>Are 9 to 5 jobs that draining?
Its not that they're draining, but if work sucks or you don't like your job/the people etc it makes you really want to enjoy time not spent at work. Video games tend not to accomplish this since most single player ones are simplistic and if you're old you've witnessed them get simpler and simpler, with multiplayer titles the draw is often the camaraderie but many multiplayer gamers are subhuman morons so its very unfulfilling if its your only outlet.
Generally speaking most people just need other hobbies.
>>343996628
This sounds very elitist, there are video games for everyone and your comment is non-constructive. By saying things like this, you are inadvertently hurting the gaming community.
>>343994282
Flight Sims are so fucking boring, I genuinely don't see the point unless you're actually going to go fly a plane, which, unlike it's electronic counterpart is actually enjoyable. Autistic fag.
>>343997137
"straight As" with cheating ofc
>Stellaris
Alright OP lemme ruin this game for you right here.
Stellaris will never be good because the combat is shit, (like all GS games). Stellaris is basically a casualized Star Ruler clone with a Paradox twist. It doesn't do space 4x as good as space 4x games, and it doesn't do Grand Strategy or empire management as well as other Grand Strategy games. Stellaris merges the genres while dilluting what makes them great. About the only thing it does well is early game exploration, simple diplomacy, and ayy lmao genocide.
There now you don't need to wait 2 years for a game that will leave you with an unsatisfied and overall disappointed felling.
I'm 23 and you're scaring me.
Can one grow tired of stealth/hack n slash games?
28 here, still at uni (changing paths a little late, better finish now anyways). I'm just glad to see other of the same age around here.
As for games, I usually go for either interesting single palyer like SOMA, the Void, etc. or "fun with friends" type of games like E.Y.E and even Overwatch right now (which pretty much work for now since we can easily form a full group but I expect it to drop in popularity soon enough, in my group anyways).
>>343994001
Why is it only vidya people treat like this
Is it wrong for a 30 year old to like movies or books?
>>343997860
>Is it wrong for a 30 year old to like movies or books?
yes, you should know how to make a table and piss in public
no fun allowed
>>343994559
>i am an intelligent person
>can't even spell can't right
>thinks flight sims are hard to learn
>>343994001
if you want to do something complex then put it to good use IRL instead of wasting time playing stupid fucking games
>>343997835
Not necessarily, OP is just trying particularly hard to signal that he's 'mature' by disliking certain types of games. I'm 28 and still enjoy just about everything I used to enjoy.
>>343994001
With the responses you've given, it's not hard to see why you can't find any games to play and why you THINK you are too old/intelligent for them.
I think you maybe DO need to leave this hobby or just kinda drift into the sea of casuals.
any other yt gaming related channels for older guys besides game sack?
>>343994001
Im 31, still love games. Eat shit.
>>343998339
Joseph Anderson maybe?
It's like matthewmatosis for adults.
>>343995867
Nothing wrong with that. Only insecure people think otherwise.
>>343997231
Film is recognized as a form of artistic expression the world over, with entire, well respected colleges dedicated to its craft. Can you say the same about your precious vidya?
>>343997376
In the end cancer will get us.
It's an aging disease, it can never be cured.
Simply delayed.
>>343997860
Because there are a number of culturally celebrated authors and directors, but there are no culturally celebrated game designers.
Video games are a type of media still in its infancy. It will continue to be regarded as such until culturally significant works arise from the medium, and that'll take some time.
>>343998568
Films is a collaboration of directors, producers, graphics, costumes, etc.
Sometimes they tell a story, sometimes they don't.
How is vidya any different?
>>343998568
>Film is recognized as a form of artistic expression the world over, with entire, well respected colleges dedicated to its craft.
that doesn't really change the fact that the're passive experiences that do nothing for you unlike books and video games
play some nostalgia games
or just laid back games like animal crossing or harvest moon
>>343998779
How is a book not a passive experience?
>>343998968
retard
>>343998570
It's not like most people read those celebrated works. You're more likely to find people reading twilight or watching independence day 2 and the latest HBO trash.
>>343994001
>made for intelligent grown ups
>>343998691
Film reaches a higher level of artistic integrity, and is seen as higher "culture" than video games. Film has masterpieces which are highly moving and artistic experiences. When has a video game ever produced something that commands as much respect as Casablanca or Citizen Kane?
I just feel like no entry in the history of video games has had as much cultural significance as examples from cinema or literature have, so thats why its false equivalence to compare the two.I really don't know that fucking much about cinema, so if I seem like I'm talking out of my ass, I am.
>>343999003
Go on
>>343994001
>Are any games actually made for intelligent grown ups?
How does that concern you?
>>343998968
You read at your own pace
You interpret words differently as other people, when a particular scene is happening in your head you know you're probably the only one on earth to "see it" like that.
>>343999029
Appreciation of those classic movies increased as time passed. They weren't art overnight.
>>343994001
>>343994559
Socrates is turning in his grave right now.
>>343994001
I'm 33 and I'm having a great time playing pic related vidya. And yes there are complex situations. Some will make you cry or cause you pain or literal bleeding if you're not careful.
>>343999123
You have also just described a movie. What you see in a scene is individual to your own interpretation.
A better question is may be "What input do you provide to a book or a movie, compared to the kind of input you provide to a video game?"
>>343999071
Reading requires effort. Aside from actually reading and comprehending the words of the book itself (which may include many words you've never heard of and have to look up on your own), you have to interpret the message the author may be trying to convey, apply an interpretation to the events, imagine how the characters and settings are interacting, and catch details of symbolism that might be missed on the first read. Technically, reading is a creative act.
>>343999381
Well not really since you can't watch a movie at your own pace, unlike a book
>>343999029
>Film reaches a higher level of artistic integrity, and is seen as higher "culture" than video games.
just because games are still young compared to movies and the older generations can't relate to video games
>>343999409
Again, you've perfectly described the movie watching experience.
You may come across words that you're unfamiliar and have to look up. You have to interpret the message the director is trying to convey through the film, and you may catch details and symbolism that was missed on the first watch through.
Arrested Development and 30 Rock are both good examples of the symbolism, especially foreshadowing, that you gain awareness of on your second watch-through.
>>343999381
you do not use your imagination when watching a movie, at least not on the same level when reading books
movies are good for underestimated insecure average joes who will watch kubrick shit just to feel better and special about themselfs
>>343999447
You can't pause, rewind, and play it in slow motion? Cause you could the last time I checked senpai
>>343999467
>>343999270
Thats true. And its exciting to think that video games of today will be much more respected ten or twenty years from now. But what games would even be considered the "Citizen Kane"'s of our time? Actual fucking art that future, pretentious video-game design students will study in textbooks? All I can think of is Shadow of the Colossus.
>>343994001
EVE online basically
>all these people shit talking flight sims with hurr it's TOO complex of an autism simulator, if i wanted a second job i'd just learn how to fly a REAL plane.
>they don't know about the holy grail that is ww1/ww2/pre-vietnam combat flight sims, planes that people will literally NEVER EVER fly into combat against eachother again
>a stick, throttle, flaps, radiator controls, fuel mixture, landing gear, and guns which are controls that you could easily fit onto a modern gamepad with plenty of room to spare are too complex for them
>>343999732
Just insulting one culturally recognized medium of artistic expression doesn't add value to any other.
Video games still need to mature as an artistic medium, though for those who are paying attention you can find culturally relevant works that already exist like the aforementioned Journey and Amnesia. They're experiences not unlike a great fantasy novel or an suspenseful horror film.
>>343994001
You sound like a jaded idiot.
So no. All the games for jaded idiots came out before 1998.
>>343994001
33 here, still enjoy dumbass shooters, brawlers and platformers as much as ever. Not sure what your problem is.
>>343994559
Can you please do something else with your life
>>343997137
>Are 9 to 5 jobs that draining?
Most jobs actually are.
Wake up, groom, possible eat, get ready, commute, get there (might of had to of left early) work, commute, probably groom again depending on work, eat, did you have to take your work home with you or study? sleep, repeat.
>>343999663
The movie is still providing all the scenery for you, the characterization of the characters mannerisms, even how their voices sound. Everything you would have to imagine yourself is instead presented right for you on the screen, while when reading, youre the director of the little play going on in your head. Not to mention that the actual progress of the book doesn't happen unless you read the words, process them, and make it happen yourself. Reading is something that takes far more energy and effort than watching a movie or TV show, and is therefore not a passive process.
>>343999732
There's nothing wrong with movies. You're a massive faggot.
>>343999957
You spend more waking hours at a 9-5 job than you do at home or with your family.
>>343999797
>But what games would even be considered the "Citizen Kane"'s of our time?
when they become photorealistic choose your own path games and accessible enough for your typical summer blockbuster movie enthusiasts
>>343999737
Try that in a movie theater.
>>343994001
Is trust any good?
>>344000054
I'm gonna need more alcohol for this....
>>343999907
But fantasy and horror aren't artistically valid genres.
>>343999907
>Just insulting one culturally recognized medium of artistic expression doesn't add value to any other.
those are just facts
>Video games still need to mature as an artistic medium
like i said, video games are still young
case closed
>>344000056
I don't care about mr special little snowflake movie taste man
just posting facts, video games are better for your brain than movies
>>343995547
>spherecuck propaganda
>>344000134
We can draw a parallel to what you described with an author's reading of a book or passage at a book store or presentation.
You do realize that watching a movie in a theater is not the ONLY way in which a film can be experienced I'm sure.
>>343994001
I'm pushing 40, and I love games as much as I did when I was 5. I may take issue with the way the industry has gone, and don't like a lot of more recent tropes, but it doesn't really hamper the fun I have gaming as a whole.
Then again, I'm also a grandfather who loves anime and high school girls, and managed to retire off of the dotcom bubble 16 years ago, so ymmv.
>>344000308
Why not? They use the same medium of expression. Surely if they impact they have on our culture were significant enough they would be considered artistically relevant and even culturally important.
>>344000649
Artistic relevance and cultural significance of course being the measure by which we decide if something is both 'important' and 'grown up'
>>343994001
Everyone else pretty much put you in your place
But my god I am turning 30 in a little over a month's time and can say safely that I am more comfortable in who I am knowing that I am not you
>>343998570
>there are no culturally celebrated game designers
GabeN and Miyamoto are pretty highly respected and their games are becoming cultural icons.
>>344000986
When history books are written and include their names we will finally feel like the medium has been validated.
I think a lot of games tend to take a nose dive in quality because the big studios want to focus on acquiring the "big" intellectual property titles and milking it for everything they can and squeezing out another sequel to milk.
Having "spiritual successors" instead of sequels would probably go a long way from making things go stale, although after how some publishers have milked their franchises they probably lost the trust of consumers to push new titles like that.
It's not just you OP, a lot of people just have nothing besides gaming as their go to hobby and have a lot of ego and interest tied into keeping things status quo; but like I said I don't think the industry could really break the status quo even if they wanted to.
>>344000813
Yes, and a measure by which OP seems to relate to his own ability to enjoy a particular title.
>>344001201
Well we're not quite there yet, you're right. I think though that in the history of technologies a lot of figures we know today are going to be mentioned.
>>344001254
I really like this idea of having spiritual successors rather than sequels. It allows storylines and lore to refresh, and it carries on the important aspects of the experience you had with the first game.
>>344000986
Not really. They WERE highly respected, but public opinion has turned against both rather sharply as of late. Shiggy keeps saying stupid shit that betrays his idea guy level of talent all of these years, and Gaben is content to lock himself in his ivory tower while the rest of his company turns into lemmings.
The most I can say for Gabe is that, in the off chance you catch his attention, he WILL do shit. It's akin to trying to catch a major dignitary's attention though, so good luck.
>>344000943
What date? I'm 9/10
>>344001516
8/23uh oh the hackers on steroids have my birth date
>>344001201
lsd is way better for both your health and yourself and yet lsd is demonized in the mass media while cigarettes even when unhealthy and bad for you are still consider to be just a normal thing to do in the books and tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c
your point?
>>344001672
Holy shit slow down and type that in a way that does not turn you into a Tails Got Trolled character
>>344001418
You know I think you're right, and while it seems silly to think about it this way, it's kind of exciting that we lived at the same time, or in the vicinity of great cultural figures.
>>343994001
>Can a 30 year old enjoy games?
yes u fgt
What genres do you actually give ten shits about?
Even if the industry is shit overall, there are more games than ever to enjoy
>>344001753
>>344001426
Yeah Dark Souls really kind of made me realize that. Really FromSoftware use to be one of my favorite studios years ago and they just fell off the map for me aside from hearing about other titles I use to follow and pussy footing around whether I wanted to play sequel#7 until Dark Souls while they'd been kicking ass around with Demon Souls and doing other stuff like that which had a pretty big cult following.
Dark Souls really just blew my mind when I sat down and played it, the scale of the maps, size of some of the enemies, just figuring out what the fucks going on. Probably didn't help how difficult it was I could of easily just said fuck this game I'm done instead of giving it a chance playing it through to the end. then going online and listening to some jackass talk about how easy it is for them to speed run it naked with meme weapon. Kind of stuff like that makes me roll my eyes how invested people are in being button clickers that want to be perfect little programs.
>>344001949
Sir are you aware there is a man taking unauthorized photos of your dark souls taunt impersonation behind you
I suggest reporting him to AOL as it is a crime
>>344001672
My point being that once video games have a significance to our lives, and in particular our culture , then we will see it gain the popularity that OP seems to want. And as such he has as higher chance of dis
>>344001764
Well the thing is that we ARE so early into the industry of computers and video games, so pretty much everyone who did anything major to impact the industry in the last 30-40 years has had huge ripple effects into the future. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs will be remembered as great pioneers on the level of Newton, Alexander Graham Bell. and Edison. Miyamoto pretty much personally built the console scene and popularized gaming as an entertainment medium. Gabe? Maybe not so influential, but his company is large enough to at least get a fair mention. It's weird to think of I agree, but times is weird. When you think about it, someone born tomorrow could become an icon someday.
>>343994001
only movies sorry grandpa.
>>344002167
The only way for video games to be a more important part of our culture is to lose the essence of what made them enjoyable in the first place.
The most we can be happy about is that we got to see the "golden years" of a new entertainment medium, and now have a modicum of understanding in regards to how original film buffs may have felt at the turn of the century, helplessly watching as artistic direction and raw talent were replaced with formulaic, drole typecasts
>>343997137
Depends on the job, if you get stuck in some shitty office pushing papers all day, you probably return home with suicidal thoughts each day.
I've done work in the trades before and the physical labor is exhausting, but I returned home satisfied knowing I've accomplished something with my own two hands.
>>344002167
not in our lifetimes, OP is just insecure and should do what others want him to do
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>>344002332
There's still a fuckload of artsy films being made.
>>343994001
Elite:Dangerous
>I have turned X amount of years old therefore what I enjoy needs to change
Why do people think this? Your tastes get pretty much set in your mid-twenties anyway.
>>344002332
>The most we can be happy about is that we got to see the "golden years" of a new entertainment medium, and now have a modicum of understanding in regards to how original film buffs may have felt at the turn of the century, helplessly watching as artistic direction and raw talent were replaced with formulaic, drole typecasts
video games are still evolving
>>344002187
Miyamoto didn't do jack shit. Gunpei did more for the industry than he ever did. Miyamoto was the innocent child the rest of Nintendo protected because they felt it was their responsibility.
It's no different than saying that Infafune would go down in history as the father of Mega Man when it's anything but the truth.
Iconoclasm is the most deadly tool
>>343994001
Don't disregard games just because they're not "Intellectual" or "mature", play what you find enjoyable and fun. You'll just lose out on shit if you restrict yourself like that.
Enjoy games.
>>343999936
His problem is he has his head up his own ass, my older friend.
>>344002576
Yeah and neither did Edison but I didn't see Tesla in my fucking books
>>344002167
lol video game culture
>you fucking faggot cheater
>i banged your mom
>RAPED!
>I HAVE 895382.4321% SHOOTING ACCURACY IM A WALKING AIM BOT GIT GOOD LOSER NOOB QUIT PLAYING
>OH EM GEE THIS PERSON I DONT LIKE THEIR CLOTHING IM BEING OPPRESSED BY THESE SEXISTS
>I KILL THIS ONE NOT CHALLENGING THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN THE SAME WAY TEDIOUSLY FOR HOURS AND PICK UP THE GOLD
such wow much culture
>>344002528
Evolution? Only in the most technical of terms. What you call evolution is akin to neanderthals "evolving" to humans. What started as one thing has died out and another form has taken its place due to having greater adaptability to the changing environment.
Video games as the older crowd would know them have died out. There would not be such an outcry for a return to form and pining of the old days if this weren't the case.
Even if video games as a medium continue to "evolve", it will not be in a shape that I nor even you will be able to enjoy come the end of our lifespan. The merciless hand of time will change what you love, and you can only watch as it takes what you valued.
This goes for anything.
>>344002738
That you even have the knowledge that Tesla was the OG nigga is proof that time will tell.
>>344002882
>he honestly thinks the culture of any other medium has ever been different
Shakespeare made puns about raping whores for christ's sake
>>343994001
You become jaded and nothing excites you anymore like it used to.
Strategy games occupy your brain, but why waste time and mental energy on these things when you'd rather us it on learning or working or doing something creative for a hoobby?
yea.
said person just needs to actually grow up and stop trying to hard to be "adult"
our generation grown up with video games so it is ok and normal for us to play and enjoy them for the rest of our lives
just like the internet for kids who are growing up today
your grampa didn't magically stop reading books and listening to the music whe he was in his 30, he just enjoyed what he could at the time
>>344002476
Elite will be GOAT if they ever release the actually good part of the game they've been hiding away all this time.
>>344002931
>Evolution? Only in the most technical of terms.
virtual reality is proving you wrong and that's just the beginning
new possibilities are rising
>>343994001
I've always hated this Kotaku tier bitching about intellectualism in games.
They are fucking games, no one is complaining that both kids and adults like football so why is it such a big deal in vidya?
>>344003039
See that is sort of my point, you're average narcissistic person is elevating their button pushing en devours and dick headed ranting at others to being comparable to being a historically significant highly regarded literary figure. It's like a constant 24/7 crowd of people doing it non-stop for years at a time. Sometimes you just kind of need to take a step back and realize how ridiculous it is to call that cultured in any positive sense of the word.
>>344003346
>They are fucking games, no one is complaining that both kids and adults like football so why is it such a big deal in vidya?
well, many games cannot be enjoyed by kids
29 here.
GF and I still go do midnight releases or hang around WalMart if there isn't an overnight event somewhere, for games we like. Will be doing this for Pokemon and MHX this year.
Don't be so pretentious.
>>343994001
35 here
you're a fucking idiot
>>343994001
If you can't enjoy even the simplest vidya as an adult, you need to either get your brain checked, work harder at your job or get a more intellectually involving job.
I'm involved in engineering and I love neps and weeaboo games in general, that would be considered childish by normies, had they discovered my secret. I'm also 27, btw.
>>343994001
noit sure where you're going with muh intellectualism, but when i got old i became solely a single player gamer. i just lost the desire to play online stuff. i love games where i can turn off all the lights and just immerse myself in another world for a few hours, have fun, then do other hobbies like cooking, making neat things with arduinos, and maintaining my house.
21 year old here
I wouldn't know, I don't play videogames
>>344003278
Virtual reality? VIRTUAL REALITY.
You really want to speak about VIRTUAL REALITY as a cornerstone of modern tech and gaming? Even in the 90s they assumed we would have developed virtual reality to such a point that by now we would be able to have entire WORLDS created.
Virtual Reality is a failed product that was left for dead by sensible people several decades ago, and has only now been revived NOT to realize its full potential, but as a means to make a quick buck off of people like you.
You want to know what was a new technology in the 80s that preceded VR? Motion sensors.
The bankruptcy of commercialized ingenuity can't become anymore apparent.
>>344003476
please don't be a neckbeard
>>344003623
we know, you're here just to shitpost
70 year old here
you're all cunts.
>>343994001
>hella fuck*n
You're 12 not 30
>>344003707
>please don't be a neckbeard
ah shit my bad man
reee why aren't there more intelligent games
dwarf fortress is the pinacle of games for adults like me
reeeeeee stop talking about babby games
>>344003646
>You really want to speak about VIRTUAL REALITY as a cornerstone of modern tech and gaming? Even in the 90s they assumed we would have developed virtual reality to such a point that by now we would be able to have entire WORLDS created.
>Virtual Reality is a failed product that was left for dead by sensible people several decades ago, and has only now been revived NOT to realize its full potential, but as a means to make a quick buck off of people like you.
because the technology was just not there in the 90s unlike today and ironically it's still not ready
you're not very bright
>>343994001
If you don't enjoy "thing" don't do "thing"!
Why the hell are people so intent on being part of something they don't want to be?
I don't care if you use to be a fan, some people use to enjoy eating chalk then that changed. Others enjoyed horse riding then that changed, many enjoy drinking juice but sometimes even that changes. You need to find the reasons that brought you to this medium in the first place and if you can't rekindle that flame and passion just let it go and move THE FUCK ON!
There are tons of grand strategy games out there, don't you fucking say you've played and mastered all that is available including the online verses ones.
Stop being a whiny picky prissy little snowflake that just fucking complains.
Civ 5 is just around the fucking corner, go play Civ 4 online a few more times.
>>344003919
>It's evolving!
>No it isn't, it's a scam and people who buy into it are retards
>You're right, it is a scam...but you hurt my feelings so MERRRRRR UR DUMB
hhhehe
>>344003438
That isn't exactly true.
Kids can enjoy almost anything, few of my favorite games in primary school were FFVII (I barely knew english), some flight simulator (Warbirds or F-3 Strike Eagle) and Steel Panthers which is hex based WW2 autism simulator.
>>344003820
I'm not OP
but liking pokemon and nintendo games at the age of 29 is just low
that's why I hope that you're not a stereotypical greasy neckbeard manchild, take it easy
>>344004137
>>344003982
>you dont like what i like
>stop not liking what i like
>>344004117
show me a kid who can enjoy planescape torment ,grand stragy games or some nische point and click games with minimal violance
>>343997835
Yes, hack and slash games are for fucking retards.
Once you play diablo 2-3 path of exile and grim dawn/titan quest you realize the genres horrible limitations.
As I grow older i find anything that is enjoyed through fast clicking on the keyboard and mouse to be less enjoyable, as well as scripted shit unless it has a very well written story which is extremely rare.
Like lets take soma..I enjoyed the story but i didnt enjoy the actual gameplay...Its simply pointles.
Its like a millionh other games iv seen before. So I just watched it on youtube..
The only things that really get me going are very well written games that are relaxing, like turn based rpg and simulations that allow for freedom and emergent gameplay, like crusader kings 2/other grand startagey games.
But see I read philosophy and top of the line literature so i have certain tastes and most plotlines dont do it for me.
Its hard to read nabokov Dostoevsky hegel and deleuze and then play some rpg full of cliches and poorly written retarded characters with some contrived ending and a "score".
>>344004036
>look at me i'm nostradamus and my opinions about the future of things are facts!
hhehe, shut up already
>>343995893
im 30 and feel the same way.
I play a lot of WC3 (regular ladder, not custom)
I own SC2 but cant get in to it, its too much effort to learn.
Play Quake Live and CS:GO.
Aside from console games this is about all I play (despite spunking money every steam sale on games I end up never playing)
>>344004205
just my opinion bro, you're not an neckbeard right?
>>343997860
99% of most games are marvel comic book tier.
The other 1% is decent if we are talking about story and writing.
In terms of gameplay it all mostly revolves around the spectacle, explosions reflexes and other shit.
In general games ar emostly geared towards gamers who are under 20 or are brain dead nd havent read anything substantial or watched any actually good movies.
>>344002187
>Bill Gates and Steve Jobs will be remembered as great pioneers on the level of Newton, Alexander Graham Bell. and Edison.
Hahahahaha
>>344004367
>Yes, hack and slash games are for fucking retards.
this, basically watered down rpg games
>>344004257
>Nut-up or shut-up
>You choose to just keep whining like a little bitch
>>344004483
you're not very good at this but power to you for trying champ
don't let me stop you from trying more either, practice makes perfect
>>343998374
>mad because he knows op has a point
You are clearly a manchild with no self awareness.
>>344004590
you don't understand, i want you to prove me wrong
I hate stereotypes
>>344004354
You don't remember the time when kids played Myst?
I also played Planescape and Arcanum when I was 12 and liked them. If anything I liked Arcanum more back then because I can't adjust to its terrible gameplay anymore.
>>344004628
this thread got to big, shitposting summerkids are already here
>>343999005
OP here but i am one of those people who do read and watch these works which is why i find it hard to find any worthwhile games to play.
Im sorry i seem condescending to some of the manchildren here who still play their xbox COD or whatever other brain dead shit they play but thats just how it is.
>>344004429
Goodness gracious. It isn't me who resorted to ad hominem because they couldn't cope with the facts they were given, anon. Your lack of being able to add anything worthwhile speaks for itself, and I can't help but point fun at it.
You are taking what I said pretty hard, and you should. Listen, as long as you monetarily support these people and what they do, you will never see a true evolution of the medium. If you still want to make a difference, take the time to research and understand the times before you were born.
Sad truth is, it's all history repeating, and you need to decide what is best for your entertainment.
>>344004662
this isn't a bad turn but I would have started your spiel a few posts back entirely different, more subtlety works better
for instance you left the GF bit entirely alone, you could have opened up with a more patronizing tone like "you don't have to lie about having a girlfriend but..."
also after the picture with the meme frog you could have attacked me for being defensive
>>344004585
>i dont like your opinion it doesnt seem to agree with mine
>stop not agreeing with my opinion
>>344004668
>I also played Planescape and Arcanum when I was 12 and liked them.
yes, you
but i think more kids rather enjoyed playing football at the time then playing planescape
also there's no way you could find a kid who are interested in grand strategy games
>>343994383
This.
>>344000202
looks like some gimmicky shit.
>>344004796
stop it already because it's sad
enjoy your imaginable chuckle but please don't brag about it
as for virtual reality, only the time will tell
>>344004818
I'm not a troll also kudos for you for having a gf, I don't have a gf
I just asked if you're a neckbeard or not
>>344004857
Alright you win anon, I'm no match for your infinite strawman.
>>343997137
I work 6 to 2, best hours with plenty of time to enjoy vidya after.
>>344000943
op here then why are you so buttheart.
Its amazing how many here obviously feel inadequate about themselves and rage at me for touching on something they know deep down is true about themselves.
You see, people who feel comfortable about themselves dont rage over someone else's opinion, especially the relatively innocent one i expressed in my OP.
>>344005251
It really was an infantile strawman.
Kudos anon
:)
you know how i know you really are mature, quitting when you know your right because the world sucks and fuck everybody
>>344005157
No I know that's the angle you took but like I said it was probably a poor choice to begin with.
If you want to dig someone into a hole it's better to use what they've already provided instead of trying to attack them from an unknown.
Like in this instance you tried to establish the connection between playing certain vidya to being a neckbeard, but for such a common trope you did very little to link the two. What motivation would the victim have to defend themselves? Why would they engage you on that front in the first place? If they don't engage you, your entire plan falls flat.
To elaborate before, you could have easily taken >>344003820 this post and ran with it. Something along the lines of "Jesus you sure got defensive about playing games meant specifically for children. Are you lying about your age or are you actually fucking serious about being 29?"
That way is doubly good because attacking someone's age rather than implying something by it is more effective because it's something you can't change.
>>344004897
I assume that there were some kids in Germany that liked Grand Strategies because that is where those games were probably holed up back in the 90s. Personally I never saw games like those back then even though I played lots of strategy games.
Even if they were availlable I think only German kids would be able to play them due to having proper translations.
>>344005346
>Its amazing how many here obviously feel inadequate about themselves and rage at me for touching on something they know deep down is true about themselves.
don't be ridiculous, we're you killing time
>You see, people who feel comfortable about themselves dont rage over someone else's opinion
also no one is raging except for the one neckbeard frog and not because of you
>>343994001
God, what a cunt.
>>344002649
The point is i cant enjoy shit that is obvious rehashes and full of cliche.
If and when you read great novels and watch great movies and works of art, you realize how much thought theyr require, how rich they are.
Then when you come back to video games all you see are none stop cliches, things simply done to sell more or make more money which includes structuring the plot a certain way or simply the spectacle that is only enjoyable up to a certain age unless you remain a manchild.
>>344005291
>Getting home when the sun is still up
Best feel.
I used to work 4am till 7pm it's the literal fucking worst and I only ever did it for the money.
>>343994001
Yeah, but you have to play games from quite a while ago, the cutoff is early 00s.
The only thing worth buying from the past 15 years is Terraria.
If you liked Dungeon Keeper 2, War of the Overworld is pretty good.
>>344005393
>If you want to dig someone into a hole it's better to use what they've already provided instead of trying to attack them from an unknown.
goddamn anon i don't want to insult you or dig you into a hole because i'm a loser myself and i don't even have a gf
I was just curious about you potentially being the neckbeard because my simple brain cannot comprehend the fact that someone who is 29 can still enjoy something as simplistic as pokemon without being a neckbeard
>>344005589
Then maybe you are looking at wrong things (as in not gameplay) or you are an insufferable snob who comes to college movie night to complain about Wu Tang Clan movies and Arnold's Commando.
>Games that are simpler than the games I play
Manchild, casual, call of duty audience.
>Games that are more complex than the games I play
Manchild, autistic, impossible to be fun.
>>344005827
I see you're being obstinate with your approach here and while it wasn't a good one to begin with, part of doing this correctly is sticking to the act so in that regard I commend you.
Like I said though, keep practicing and you will get some genuinely good bites in the future. If I provided any advice you can use in the long term then I'm just glad we had this interaction.
EVE Online
Wurm
ARMA co-op
Grand Strategy
>>344005508
>I assume that there were some kids in Germany that liked Grand Strategies
no, trust me
grand strategy are just too boring and complicated for kids to enjoy
unlike football
>>344005950
What a geek I bet he got all those medals sitting safe in an office somewhere.
>>344005750
Iv played all those old games to death and i probably enjoyed them so much back then because i was younger...
>>343997137
>spend time on the computer or with clients all day at work
Last thing I want to do is dedicate MORE time behind a screen. I usually save my gaming for the weekend
>>344006113
>Iv played all those old games to death and i probably enjoyed them so much back then because i was younger...
Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed Jagged Alliance 2 because you were a stupid kid, not because literally not one single tactical squad game made between 1999 and 2016 is even close to it in terms of features, and with 1.13 never will be.
I know several 40-50+ people who play civilization. Easy to sit down and play, easy to learn, but has complexity as well. Great when you need to do other things as well.
>>344006045
In any case it is besides the point to try to find bondaries of things kids might be able to enjoy.
It was never in question that most people enjoy football over Total War series when they are 10 years old (not me). The point is that the barrier of entry for vidya is much closer to sports than arthouse movies.
>>344005995
so you'll never going to answer my simple question?
it's a shame
>Like I said though, keep practicing and you will get some genuinely good bites in the future.
anon i don't want to bait anyone, this thread is the first with more than one of my posts since the beginning of 2016, usually i'm just lurking
>>344006260
>It was never in question that most people enjoy football over Total War series when they are 10 years old (not me).
we were talking about kids, you said kids can play and enjoy any video game
>>344006279
>so you'll never going to answer my simple question?
If you missed why this would have happened in a real interaction see >>344005393
cheers
>>344004354
Anon, Baldur's Gate 2 is my favorite game and I first played and finished it when I was 12.
>>343994383
/thread
>>343994383
There are clearly people my age here.
>>344006359
All i wanted was a simple answer for a simple questions without pointless walls of text
Are you a neckbeard anon? do you look like one?
yes or no
>>344006339
Well almost anything. The list you gave me before did have other genres too.
I doubt most people in general enjoy grand strategies so it is bit of a cheap shot and I still wouldn't go as far as to say that there never has been a kid who liked Crusader Kings.
>>344006393
baldur's gate 2 is not a complex game and nothing alike torment
you just kill stuff for gold and experience, any kid could enjoy that
>>344006651
almost, correct
with means not all video games are for kids
hurray!
>30 years old.
>Currently playing Overwatch, SFV, Arkham Knight, Hitman, and FIFA.
Only thing I've discovered is that the older I've gotten, I just can't seem to find the time to invest into story heavy titles that take up a lot of time. With that being said, however, I have decided to take some time off work for the new Deus Ex. I've also not become so obsessed with finishing games if I don't like them since it's a waste of my time.
>>344006568
Clearly, you have more in common with them that that as they also have the intelligence of a wet cardboard box by acting smugly like you can't learn something from people younger than they are.
lvl 31. my biggest problem is that I can't enjoy FPSs anymore likr I used to. I get motion sickness and dizzy after a while.
thay is why I seem to play more re pixel indie stuff lately and things like Wathammer40K:Armageddon that have 'static' POV.
doesn't feel very good..
>>344006806
kys you normie fuck
>>344006794
Now I really feel like I've been baited.
Semantic autism claims another victim.
>>344004367
>But see I read philosophy and top of the line literature so i have certain tastes
>>344003403
I get where all of that is coming from, but man, I wished people would stop sucking Shakespeares cock this much.
>>344005656
>I used to work 4am till 7pm it's the literal fucking worst and I only ever did it for the money
as opposed to for fun?
>>343994001
I'm 31 and I play most anything. I just beat Arkham Knight on hard, started my first warband in Mordheim PC, played most of my prelims in competitive Overwatch, and downed mythic Archimonde in WoW for the ninth time, and that's just in the past two days. If you don't like video games at 30, that's your problem, not the games'.
>>344007029
why? I just don't agree when people are saying that all games are for children or can be played by them
there is a big difference between nintendo games and grand strategy games
>>344007010
Oh please, enlighten me on what I should be playing grand wizard of /v/.
>>344007029
>Make a sweeping, definitive claim
>Claim gets refuted
>It's autism!
>>344007180
Battleborn.
>>344007180
crpg, rts, some indie games but not much, portal like puzzle games, emulation, metroidvanias and card games
you're welcome
>>343995867
If you play games for the story, easy is the way to go.
>>344007145
They could have much worse role models. I think it's just that 'authority' effect. It's like hearing a band on a radio that has a record deal and a music video, compared to some guy handing out his mixed tape outside a concert.
One would probably seem a lot more professional and their music correct if they were different genres, when really both could just be picking up any random instrument and fucking around with it not really having any formal training and setting a new type of genre. If you had someone formally trained on their instruments they could tell you it's amateurish or such where as it doesn't matter because it's just a bunch of fucking noise either way. There are right and wrong about how to do things but for a lot of stuff it just means fuck all really.
Shakespeares I found had a lot of entertaining things from what I've had a chance to read or watch adaptions of.
>>343994001
>/v/ - Video Games
Rimworld
Factorio
Dorf Fort, don't be a tasteless swine and sludge through the beginning
Anno series
4x games
Rokuelikes, roguelites
>>343997137
Been at a desk job that I love for 10 years, when people say 9 - 5 they often leave out all the stuff you have to do on your free time prepare for work the next day. If I'm lucky I might get 1 hour each day for gaming but I rather go outside or just watch something before going to bed. Repeat for 10 years.
Don't get me wrong, I love my life, but got no time for games.
>>344007247
N'ah. I played both Borderlands and Borderlands 2, the later only being enjoyable with friends, but the more liberal minded Gearbox's shitty games have gone, the more I refuse to give them any attention or money. Isn't Battleborn DOA, much like Evolve was?
>>344007330
I've played a lot of those things minus card games because they're a bore. What I'm currently playing doesn't define everything I play, anon. Also, why emulate when I actually own a lot of the older consoles already? Doesn't make a lot of sense/.
>>343994001
32 here. What are you doing kid?
>>344007593
Why would you live like that? What's the point?
>>344007690
Parents didn't love him
>>344007640
>Also, why emulate when I actually own a lot of the older consoles already? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
superior experience for the most part
>>344007690
Because I love the home I live in, I love my car, I love my gf, I love my work, I love how me being productive gives me money. My life is fucking great. I rather have all this than sit down and game.
>>344007178
Nintendo games have mostly tight and enjoyable gameplay that anyone can enjoy while Grand Strategies are made for stressed out accountants who want their dose of excitment without wandering too far away from the familiar embrace of Excel.
Next you start comparing Human Centipede 2 to Jurassic Park and Agatha Christie to James Joyce.
You pointed out a niche, and that is fine but what is the point? Winning a binary argument about whether there is such a niche or not?
Riddle me this then: at what age do Grand Strategies become enjoyable because that is the objective cut off point between childhood and adulthood and the society can actually use that information.
I'm getting up there in age as far as gaming in concerned, and I still enjoy it. Biggest thing is to do some research before buying, read user reviews and browse forums of games you're interested in, get a feel for what you might be getting into before you buy. I tend to focus on singleplayer things, especially games I can save and jump in and out of easily. I make time for one or two big games like Witcher a year, and find I enjoy them just as much as I would as a kid, that sense of wonder and fun is just spread out more. Sometimes if there's something I really want to play and don't want to get spoilers, I might take a day off work and just plow through it like old times.
As for multiplayer, I tend to just play with friends, and games that are quick. I don't want to waste an hour for a single game of Dota or CS anymore, especially with how bad the community can be. But an hour of Rocket League or Overwatch with friends is great, you can get a bunch of games in, and even if you're doing poorly, the matches are over quick and you move on. If you have kids, get games you can couch co-op with them that don't have an online aspect, something you can all pick up and play for a little bit and if you happen to leave in the middle of, it's no big deal.
Biggest thing is to realize you're not going to be able to get and play every game like you did when you were young, when you get older you just don't have time anymore. Just enjoy what you can and make sure the games you do buy are quality ones. Switching it to console might even be good, easier to take games back if you find you don't like one.
>>344007593
>If I'm lucky I might get 1 hour each day for gaming but I rather go outside or just watch something before going to bed.
So why are you here? If you're below 5 hours a day your opinion on games doesn't mean jack shit.
>>344007775
The actual experience should be superior, anon, not the emulated version of said experience.
>>344007892
why are you here?
>>344004367
>>344004575
Didn't even qualify Diablo or Path as Hack n slash, more like very limited action RPGs.
I'm talking about DMC, Bayonetta and similars.
90 year old here
I love video games
just got done playing the overwatch
I like me that big assed Chinese broad. real humdinger.
>>343997674
>Stellaris combat is shit
get out microfag,
even though stellaris is in general a shit game, I gave my money to them simply because they had the balls to not include tactical combat. I'M A FUCKING EMPEROR NOT A SIMPLE LIUTENANT.
Although someone now needs to make a space empire game where you can't build anything and you can't design your ship and AI managers are a feature that is mandatoy.
Fuck that Master of Orion 2 cloning to hell already. I played Master of Orion 2, I don't need 143 clones of it anymore. I haven't been able to play any 4X since, because these games have been turned into meme civ games with autistic micro.
>>344007892
>>344007770
This is why you raise a child with love
>>344007985
>>344007948
Because I'm taking a shit
>>343997382
>not playing panzer general 2
>>343997137
I work 9-6, leaving around 7:30 in the morning and getting home around 7 at night. I eat pretty much as soon as I'm home, so done by 8. Layout my suit/shirt/tie for the next day takes me 5 minutes the night before. Go to bed by about 10:30/11. So I have normally at least 90 minutes free time each night. So that's a movie, vidya session, or a good practice session on one of my instruments.
>>344008150
please explain what you mean with this.
I'm fucking 35 and I love platinumshit, SMT, Souls, MGS and The Witcher
Yes, I do have a wife
Drop the "wew I'm so adult" mindset and you'll have fun
>>343994001
I'm 35.
I work 45h/week, no child yet. Needy wife.
You're just a pretentious fag.
I'm 25 so I already feel older than most people I come across playing vidya. The only way I can enjoy Overwatch with all these teenagers running around, is by roleplaying Dad76 and keep the little whippersnappers from dying.
>>344007914
>Nintendo games have mostly tight and enjoyable gameplay that anyone can enjoy
nintendo games are both made and marketed for kids, nobody can deny that
the anyone can enjoy argument is mostly use by manchildren who don't want to acccept the facts that they're playing games made for little kids
>while Grand Strategies are made for stressed out accountants
yes but not kids
>at what age do Grand Strategies become enjoyable because that is the objective cut off point between childhood and adulthood and the society can actually use that information.
It depends of the person but usually past the time where the best thing ever are sweets, playing with toys and first erotic fantasies
later you're either moving on for something more compitated or story diriven or become someone like picture related to a some degree even if you look normal outside
