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How is it after all these months?Should I just wait for the console edition?
>>343990034
Same as it was but with a few DLC things
Still no Long War mod though I don't think
>>343990034
Patched and made better with DLC that adds nothing of value
>>343990034
This worth it if I enjoyed the first? Heard a lot of bad things about it.
>>343991619
Why didn't you buy it during the sale
>>343991619
half the whining was about it runing like shit. The other half was about the timers in which they needed to git gud. the Overworld is very different from a classic Xcom but other than that its better in most ways. Also mods
>>343990034
Good. Given it's Firaxis I expect the first expansion to solidify it as great but it's still absolutely worth the money at this point.
I don't know why you would choose to get the console version if you have PC capable of running it, the mods add so much. And you can get it for like half the price of a console game.
>>343991867
Because I already have a massive backlog.
>>343991917
Thanks m8.
>>343992095
Fuck off.
>>343992680
Well whatever it was worth it during the sale, so unless you love xcom, don't bother with it
>>343992095
suck my cock
>>343991917
And recently the extra action from the 3 aliens in the hunter dlc.
>>343991619
it's great if you hate skill and love RNG
>>343993491
Alien Hunters may well be the worst DLC of all time, it actively manages to make the game worse, and somehow topped Anarchy's Children in garish cosmetics. Fortunately it can be disabled or ignored, and nothing of value is lost.
>>343993626
If you're not eliminating everything on the turn of activation, then you're not playing right and honestly need to get good. Pretty much only the initial Gatecrasher missions is RNG because of low soldier aim and lack of options.
>>343994103
>xcom
>git gud
lmao
>>343990034
Pretty good, preformance issues finally got patched and lots of mods. But the Anarchies children DLC definitely isnt worth it, plenty of free mods with the same or better cosmetics. The Rulers DLC is best played on a second playthrough since it wavers from intense to outright horseshit ass pulls.
Basically if you liked the first one you will like this one
It's not very good. If you liked the initial reboot you'll probably like 2 too but it has a lot of shit in it that I don't like. Some stuff has been repeated to death like how removing time units was a bad idea, but even things like just how the narrative flows and the gameplay outside of combat.
>>343992095
>>343994213
>wahhh my 65% potshot missed
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>>343992095
Eat a baby's dick
>>343993626
if you play it correctly you should be minimizing rng as much as possible by alpha striking the shit out of every pod with grenades and removing enemy cover whenever possible. if you let the enemies actually shoot at you you've done something wrong.
>>343990034
I just finished it for the first time a few days ago with Shen's DLC. I regret playing it on veteran as it was a bit easy.
>>343994646
Commander isn't that much harder and legendary is something else entirely because now you're looking at +10 days or longer on everything.
>>343990034
Still regret preordering it with DLC, dumbest decision of the year.
Retarded timers that start before you even reveal yourself on missions and poor performance. (Also shitty tier armor designs, except for default.) Now add clown constumes DLC and awful alien bosses that act after your every soldier's move and are countered by supbar special weapons.
>>343994802
>Retarded timers that start before you even reveal yourself on missions
Didn't mods exist to change that within the first week after release?
Also
>I want to blue move overwatch chain the entire game every game
git fucking gud, scrub. Let alone that there's a ton of missions where you're the attacker and you actually can still do that.
>>343994759
I think the jump in difficulty per option is high yes, but I've only tried it on veteran
>>343994802
>Also shitty tier armor designs, except for default.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
The tier 3 armor (Warden I think it's called) looks way to hollywood sci-fi. Goddamn Ironman suits for everyone.
>Play Alien Hunters for the first time blind
>"Holy shit these alien rulers are stupidly strong"
>Think about asking for advice on /v/ but remember how i'll probably just get told to git gud
>After many tries manage to beat the campaing with it
>Come to /v/ to talk about it
>Everyone is crying and whining about how it's unbalanced and shit
Sometimes i give you people too much credit. I forget that /v/ is now filled to the brim with casuals.
What's the consensus on SPARK units?
>>343994646
>with Shen's DLC
What? That released? When? What is it?
>>343995246
Great if you really want a shit grenadier, specialist and ranger in one slot.
>>343995272
Robotic MECs, released around the time the summer sales began I think.
>>343990034
>Should I just wait for the console edition?
Yes. Unlike PC, Sony and Microsoft can spare some cash to make their versions undoubtedly superior to the original PC version. It happened before, it will happen again.
>>343992095
Fuck you Sheldon
>>343995024
Once you know what you're doing and how to get established properly, you begin snowballing at the start and never stop again. If you don't fuck up, you won't fall behind the enemy curve and so you usually have all the shit you need every time a new dangerous enemy type crops up.
>>343994802
>Retarded timers that start before you even reveal yourself on missions and poor performance.
Before someone defends this asinine mechanic-
and here we go >>343995003
>I want to blue move overwatch chain the entire game every game
and even with a strawman to boot!
It goes completely contrary to guerilla theme of the game and has been thoroughly discussed already.
I've beaten the game on legendary after release and timed missions were an exercise in frustration. Simply rushing to objective took as little as 3 turns with at least one alien pod patrolling it, while fulfilling the task usually triggered several pods at once.
>Enemy Within was awesome
>Brave New World was awesome
>all the season pass DLC was fucking shit
Moral of the story, if they offer season passes then don't fucking bother.
>>343995174
>run into Berzerker Queen at the end of turn
>prepare for fun times
>guy on overwatch takes reaction shot at it
>EXECUTED
Way to fucking go.
>>343995024
There is only a very small change in difficulty between veteran and commander settings.
>>343995479
This is on every difficulty, I forgot to add.
You just have too many nuclear options available at all time, to really get threatened by the aliens anymore in vanilla.
>>343995174
>I forget that /v/ is now filled to the brim with casuals
How could you have forgotten? Half the cunts here used to cry about the site recon mission in EW being too hard, despite the fact that its literally the easiest mission in the game.
>>343995607
>This is on every difficulty, I forgot to add.
>You just have too many nuclear options available at all time, to really get threatened by the aliens anymore in vanilla.
On legendary research, clean-up, scan and build times are really slow so you struggle to catch up with advent in terms of killing potential until you reach new weapons tier.
>>343995246
I really like them as tanking units for the most part. The left path on the skill tree is really good, but i'm not a fan or the right one. My biggest complaint about them is that even with Tier3 armor they still have very low HP, lower than some soldiers. I guess it's to make up for their 4 armor but i really wish they were a bit beefier.
Any mods that add in some of the old aliens yet? I miss EU's lil sectoids.
>>343995174
>archdong kong with literally 112 HP comes down on a council mission pulling off all kinds of ridiculous shit between every action
>literally nothing you can do but wait for it to mercifully fuck off through a portal even though it could squadwipe you not matter what
Nah, fuck off. I have 300 hours in the game and could do it, but it's not worth it. I ended the campaign right there and won't be playing with it enabled ever again.
>>343995174
Did you lose any men?
>>343993626
>he doesn't know about dank LoS breaking strats and the glories of cover destruction
Kek. You deserved every single missed shot
Did they ever patch the smoke grenades literally doing nothing, or is that still left to the modders?
>>343991619
great movie
>>343996735
I think they were fixed but the effect itself is underwhelming compared to every other grenade.
>>343996140
There's an alien soldiers mod already, so the hardest part would be importing the models and animations really.
>>343996215
Protips for Alien Rulers :
1 - Scout ahead with Scan or a Concealed unit. Baiting them into a Overwatch trap is one of the best ways to deal a ton of damage to them.
2 - Use the Bolt Caster. It takes getting used to but that thing is actually overpowered.
3 - Use Acid and/or Fire against the Rulers. They will take one tick of damage on every turn they get, and since they get a fuckton of turns it deals a lot of damage to them.
>>343997013
Is there a reason to use those over flashbangs?
I guess they're more reliable in a defensive role but flashbangs deal some really nasty debuffs that turn threatening enemies into harmless ones.
>>343997827
Axe throw as well and all the free action stuff you can muster.
Though I guess that's mostly on the ruler armors.
>>343995872
Or the retards who claimed you couldn't be hiding on a rooftop while enemies were below on the streets.
>>343998136
Personally I prefer it when the enemies are on the roofs because grenadiers.
>>343995541
Had a pretty crazy bout in mission where we had to get a sample from a truck.
Got a codex and its clone practically running circles on my best grenadier, while my ranger is edging in to help out as most of the team was stuck near the starting point picking off the first two pods of enemies. Then the queen comes run into, so I get my guys to shoot her up, but my ranger is now at her mercy, and possibly to be shot in the back by one of the codexes. Situation is not helped as he's hudled by a car next to a gas pump.
He fucking bladestorms the queen as she barrels toward him.
>>343998623
Speaking of blowing out cover, have they fixed the glitches where units would float above NOTHING for like 10 seconds before falling to the nearest ground tile?
Performance issues. Game becomes easy once you get the jest of it and a rank 3 or 4 soldier, beat it without losing a guy. Story leaves you wanting in the end and feeling a little rushed. Queen zerker is overpowered, king floater rocket shower is overpowered, king viper is only difficult the first time you encounter it if you dont know it moves when you move. However the alien kings(except zerker) are relatively easy to handle if you take them by themselves.
Honestly, openxcom>longwar>xcom2>eu/ew.
So which, if any, of the DLCs are worthwhile? What about mods? I'm not sure if I should replay XCOM 2 or just go back to Long War.
>>343998959
Alien Hunters takes some getting used to, especially if you enable it like some people while way into a campaign. Hell, I swear they must have nerfed things with the update that came with Shen's Last gift, as the Viper King wasn't being nearly as big a bastard after my first encounter, which I just overwatched the faggot into portalling out. Still, it's fun how intense it can make an already hectic mission like a retaliation one. Plus the unique suits have some great powers like the viper tongue whip that can freeze enemies.
Kind of bummed the nuMECS aren't the cyborgs from EW. I loved how you could have what was basically Robocop if he had hijacked Robocop 2's body to use as a powersuit.
>>343998959
They're all pretty eh and sparks don't have the same oomph as the mecs.
>>343990034
My only problem with the game is the sometimes wonky sight detection. I've moved most of my squad up and trigger nothing then when I move my last guy up to join he sees that one extra square and sets off a spawn chain. Fucking worst part of the game.
>>343994103
>It actively manages to make the game worse
How does that work?
>>343999769
I have that issue with the goddamn gremlin and the spark beach ball.
>>343999769
>>344000009
Sounds like a lingering glitch, as I sometimes have issues with the enemy sight detection appearing in some places, and then not until the last fucking moment after I've moved guys practically close enough to piss in an Advent's mouth.
>>343999829
Alien Rulers work a bit differently. Instead of them moving at the end of your turn they move (and attack, mind you) after one of your guys does (unless it's something like reloading with an autoloader). Each ruler also has a relatively nasty arsenal of attacks that can really fuck your shit up, especially if you're not too familiar with what they can throw at you. Unless it's something like the Snek King showing up after you get magnetic weapons (he won't fare too well) then chances are the next turn or two is going to be dedicated to fighting that alien. Once their time to show up has arrived they'll appear at random in mission, something that can really ruin your day if you're escorting a VIP. On the other it can make a standard mission a lot more exciting.
tl;dr ruler ayys can either completely fuck a mission or make it a lot more fun, potentially the former because Murphy's Law.
Will there be anymore DLC?
I wanna know if i should hold off on starting a new campaign to access dem DLC missions
>>344000864
Think that's it for all the planned stuff.
If there's more it's going to be way down the line again but I wouldn't worry about it.
>VIP extraction mission
>all is well
>locate VIP
>Berserker queen rocks up
>Proceeds to fuck up 4 out of my 6 squad members, most were high ranking
>literally just escaped with VIP and two survivors
>later playing stronghold assault type missionthose red icon bases
>first enemies are a group of sectoids and the second is average troopers with the fucking queen herself, all next to each other
I quit the game then and there and I'm too afraid to start playing again.
>>344000864
I imagine they might be up to something since the ending implies a Terror from the Deep setup. Of course, that could be a sequel hook, but I find it hard to imagine they'd tease something like that and make us wait another 4 damn years.
Still, I wouldn't past them to at least do an Enemy Within style update that throws in one more class, and mixes up the action in some way with a possible third-party coming into the fray.
I loved it, patches have made it run a hell of a lot better, but the alien rulers dlc made me stop playing. Slowly trying a new plaything with Shen's last gift, and going to see if I can make alien rulers more viable by waiting until I have plasma weapons but goddamn first playing through that was miserable
>>343991867
same price as cd key sites, no need to rush in shitty steam sales anymore
>>344000864
There will be an expansion for sure but that should still be a good while away. If it's anything like EW it'll be announced around November and will release next February.
In the meantime mods are going strong and you should definitely make use of them:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-play-your-next-xcom-2-run/
Long War Studios will also likely release their set of larger mods before the Firaxis expansion.
