SFV SUCKS
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Matchmaking still sucks
No way to filter by region (SF4 ok)
No way to set input lag like GGPO to make long distance matches playable
alt+tabbing still switches host on PC
One side rollback
Saving many replays results in date corruption
Rage quitter problem still present
You have to save replays before watching them
Can't sort friends
Separating favourites (players you want to watch) from friends (players you want to play with) is needed
No online training (SF4 ok)
Archaic lobbies - no way for multiple matches at the same time
Statistics are still empty
Notifications screen doesn't update when it's open
Sending invitations when user is offline doesn't work
Battle lounge doesn't save settings
Long maintenances
Losing connection to servers interrupts offline modes
No chat support - no way to make friends in game
Too few sorting options for favourites, world rankings & replays
Turning off the music also turns off 'HERE COMES THE NEW CHALLENGER'
badly implemented legacy controller support (complicated as fuck)
no instruction how to use legacy controller support
no dinput support on PC (SF4 ok)
no key binding on PC
keyboard can only be P1 controller
no way to change specific graphical settings on PC without accessing config files (blur etc)
standard moves marketed as something new by making them into vskills
8f lag
many characters have too similiar gameplans
unimaginative vtriggers
atrocious hitboxes
differences between p1 and p2 side collision (floating point fuck up)
air grab vs air grab winner chosen at random
long loading times
framerate issues on PS4
fucked up button settings on character select - pressing again unsets buttons (SF4 ok)
no Steam integration
no way to set character themes in Versus
PC version badly optimized (+various issues with launching the game, random fps drops etc)
badly designed UI - hard to navigate and counterintuitive
Extra Battles?
Daily Challenges? (aka targets)
Subpar tutorial
Training doesn't save your settings (SF4 ok)
No character specific training options (Vega's claw state etc.)
No option to set stun bars
Quick reset with setting position (MvC3 ok)
Badly implemented ways to record dummy actions (reversals, alpha counters etc.)
Infuriating survival mode - the only way to unlock colors (colors per character, per costume...)
No arcade mode/cpu versus (SF4 ok)
No way to acquire premium costumes still
CFN account is not really an account (can't use it on a different console/steamid)
Ken's face aka quality of some models is.. questionable
stage transitions?
special KOs? (bus, noodles etc)
horrible clipping everywhere (even on character select..)
stage interactions are rare (breaking boxes etc)
WIP style UI
P2 physics still broken on character select (solution - disabled boob physics :( )
some Alt costumes use upgraded face/hair models - what about standard?
no form of tournament mode
only one player has the ability to start a rematch/change characters (SF4 ok)
CPT rules were MIA for months
no word about Alex version bug
no restart match option?
hold pause option global - should be quick in single player modes
SteamOS/Linux version announced - where is it?
anon are you okay
Wew lad
>>343964965
BUSTER WOLF>inb4 KOF shill
Also, censored.
Shit you are genuinely mad. Please keep posting. Get it all out.
>>343964209
You're correct Anon, but I'm sure some faggots will disagree regardless.
>>343964209
Thanks Sherlock fucking Holmes
I got this game yesterday and I'm getting memed by Lauras and Mikas online. Is that elbow move from Laura punishable?
>>343964209
what. im not reading all that shit. if you think you have a complaint against the game about about you beat me in a first to 3 to determine if ill accept your complaint.
>>343965545
Yes
>>343965545
probably but its all laura can really do
>>343965545
light elbow is safe but -2 i think, so it's not really their turn after that. If you have a 5 frame medium button you can counter hit them if they try to jab after and convert into full combo. Medium elbow is -7, you can get a full punish combo.
>>343965545
Fireball it
Don't be afraid to throw fireballs at close range, just take very special care to be unpredictable about it with your timing, bait and punish the jump in also
your really reaching with a lot of those points anon. I'm not big into playing online, but it isn't that awful. Though rage quitting is infuriating. That should have been priority #1.
>>343965545
>>343965904
Also, as for mika, how is she getting in on you? If she's doing the flying peach a lot, you can punish that on reaction by recognizing the crouching startup animation and DPing or parrying, since she can't cancel out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gY0qg__hQw
>>343965904
You'll trade with the fireball's extended hurtbox and even worse they can just ex elbow right through.
>>343966195
You're forgetting that EX elbow is an EX move, they can only do it when they have meter, and also it is EXtremely punishable on block so when they get meter and they look like they want to elbow you, start faking them out with random midscreen standing normals so they waste the bar and take even more damage.
>>343964450
>>343964345
>>343964235
>>343964209
Aside from a few things this is actually a good list that people should be spamming to force Capcom to address this bullshit.
>>343966493
Yes, but fireballs have worse recovery in this game. Was referring to you saying you shouldn't be afraid to throw fireballs at close range, not very good advice in general.
>>343966139
>I'm not big into playing online, but it isn't that awful.
The netcode LITERALLY distributes all lag to one of the 2 players. How in fucks name isn't that awful?
>>343965718
>>343965741
>>343965821
>>343965904
>>343966183
Thanks, guys. I'll try those things. Also, looking at that video I guess I should try to be agressive as much as I can in this game, right?
New to fightan. How do I get out of the corner against a Mika as Alex?
More generally, what should I be doing as Alex? Most of my success so far has come from poking people with his medium buttons from afar and throwing them when they're close.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
Please have sex.
>>343964209
Is this a SFV thread or something?
I'm just on my way to the beach.
>>343964450
>special KOs? (bus, noodles etc)
Wait, what the fuck even happened to those? Did they just flat out remove them?
>>343966978
What you should be doing as Alex if you're new to fighting games is not playing Alex and switching to Ryu
Alex is a command grab character, his whole gameplan revolves around landing some extremely risky guesses, you need to be able to read your opponent like a book and condition them to act in certain ways to be successful with him, you need to be able to tell exactly what your opponent is thinking at all times so you can actually land those big damage power bombs.
Reads are also important for ryu in learning to throw fireballs and not get jumped on, but it's just a part of his game rather then the whole thing.
>>343967203
They're both still there, they just didn't add any stage based stuff to any of the other stages.
>>343967203
All three stage KOs are on one stage.
And thanks to story mode, it's obvious that other stages were supposed to have those kinds of transitions but were never implemented.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
>no complaint about no direct input
0/10 shit list.
Even after 100+ hours I'm still god awful at fighting games. Feels like I'm making 0 progress.
what kind of person just copy pastes this shit into a notepad and spams it
what kind of person cares enough about hating a game to post copypasta detracting it every day
a pathetic person, that's what
>>343968304
retard
>>343968563
No, you're the retard here since you were fooled so easily.
>>343968563
>>343968671
You're both retards.
>>343968671
what
>>343968304
>I can't read
LOL
>>343967275
Are there any other well-rounded characters to learn the fundamentals with or is it Ryu or bust?
>>343968419
You need someone to teach you
Wonder why new top players constantly come out of FGC centers like cali, NY, tokyo, etc?
It's because people in those areas start out with the ability to be taught by some of the best.
Fighting games cannot really be learned, they need to be taught. I was shit for 4 years until I randomly started adding people I played in USFIV on steam and asking them questions.
still fun as fuck cause balrog soo good
>>343968875
Guile.
>>343968875
In SFV it's pretty much Ryu. He's so sick though I don't really see why you would want anybody else, parry is the best move in the game and it has infinite skill scaling.
Guile is also good for learning to play charge characters though.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
>waaaa I don't like change!!
Well go find another fighting game that's so perfect if SFV doesn't meet your entitlement, oh wait, nobody else is having issues you prick.
>>343968419
Sounds about right. It takes a long time but eventually something just clicks and it all comes together and you start getting better pretty fast. I think what helped it click for me was analyzing high level matches rather than just casually watching them.
I don't like how V-triggers were implemented into the game. They sound great on paper but we gave up a lot to have them. It's like they took a roster of complete characters, then gutted them and took the removed parts and made them into V-triggers
>>343968875
Nash. Ryu is hardly the well-rounded fundamentals man he's been in just about every other SF game. his main thing in this game is burst damage rather than mid-range zoning/space control.
The lack of an invincible reversal will teach you how to not be a scrub on wakeup as well while still retaining good anti-airs.
>>343969336
>they took a roster of complete characters, then gutted them and took the removed parts and made them into V-triggers
sounds hot
>>343969179
>things change
>80% of the complaints is about stuff that doesn't work or was promised and we never got
>>343969336
They are a great alternative to ultras, and there's only really a couple of characters where they took something they could do before and turned it into vtriggers.
>>343969179
anon gave constructive criticism which leads to future improvement
>>343969336
Does it get any better?
>>343966923
for most characters yes, but there is still use in playing lame.
just dont confuse aggression with constantly pressing something.(even though it can work more often than it should)
>>343969958
Complaining is not constructive criticism.
they still havent fixed any of that? holy fuck
i left right before alex came out
>>343970635
They had to spend all their time making a shitty looking story mode.
>>343967275
>>343968875
>>343969150
FUCK YOU
DONT FUCKING PICK RYU
PICK WHOEVER YOU THINK IS COOL AND HAS A FUN PLAYSTYLE
AND GUESS WHAT I GUARANTEE YOU ITS NOT FUCKING RYU
I AM SO SICK OF EVERY RANKED MATCH BEING VS RYU. U FUCKERS ARENT GETTING PAST EVO POOLS ANYTIME SOON SO STOP TRAINING AND START HAVING FUN, DONT FUCKING PLAY RYU!
god dammit! DONT FUCKING PLAY RYU! ITS FUCKING BORING! THIS STUPID PLAY RYU MEME HAS RUINED THE FUCKING GAME! PLAY WHATEVER CHARACTER YOU WANT JUST BE MINDFUL OF FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPTS. SAME GOD DAMN FUCKING MATCH HAS BEEN IN THE SERIES SINCE DAY ONE AND FUCK I AM SICK OF IT
HOW TO MAKE STREETFIGHTER 6 THE BEST FIGHTING GAME EVER: KILL FUCKING RYU
>>343969336
i dont know enough about the game to comment on how right or wrong you are but you must be proud of this post to say it again
>>343970815
I'm going to play Ken.
>>343970635
Half of those either got fixed or are non-issues.
Most of the rest are minor inconveniences.
>>343970815
anon has point. for years you fuckers always say play ry and ken, and then people complain when 60% of the playerbase is ryu and ken.
play who you like
>>343970994
HEY AT LEAST I CAN LAUGH AT HIS HAIR
>>343970815
>SF
>ever not having Ryu
Might as well make a Mortal Kombat with Scorpion/Sub Zero or a Duke Nukem game starring his unemployed brother Chet Nukem.
>>343971238
mk at least had the balls to kill liu kang for a game
>TFW I got called cancer in the Street Fighter subreddit for expressing regret for purchasing the game and pointing out some issues
Stay classy, FGC. Never criticize the top games and treat all the new/underground ones like they don't exist
>>343970815
I don't even know where to start with this
You simply do not understand street fighter if you think ryu is in any way boring
Baseless assumption, but I think you have never actually learned Ryu and instead are stuck playing some edgy hipster character choice strugging to get out of bronze
Ryu is the most enjoyable to play as, and also the most enjoyable to play against, because of the purity of skill of the character, everything comes down to fundamentals and really out-playing your opponent rather then the varying degrees of gimmicky bullshit that fuels most of the rest of the cast. You would come to understand this if you also started playing Ryu.
Ryu mirror match is a thing of pure beauty the likes of which you can't even comprehend. It's is the best part of street fighter, the most street fighter part of street fighter.
>>343971034
>Matchmaking still sucks
>No way to filter by region (SF4 ok)
>No way to set input lag like GGPO to make long distance matches playable
>alt+tabbing still switches host on PC
>One side rollback
>Rage quitter problem still present
all of this was infuriating
>>343971565
yea if only everyone had shit taste then we could all enjoy the entirety of AnimEvos line up.
>>343971565
You were in the wrong place, friend
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/
>>343971684
STFU GAY RETARD YOURE A BORING FAGGOT. ONLY REASON IVE EVER LOST TO A RYU IS BECAUSE I FELL ASLEEP ZZZzzZZZ god ryu is the worst
>>343971565
>Go to restaurant with the intent to shit talk
>Get kicked out
>>343971710
Keyword "was".
The only of those that are still valid is region filtering, one-sided rollback, and rage quitters still being a fairly large issue. The rest of those were fixed or would not really do much to help, ie. setting input lag.
>>343970815
This guy gets it even if he's sperging out. Pick whoever the fuck you like playing as or think is cool. Street Fighter is hardly the most complex fighter out there so you can learn without using the simplest character if you want to. If you want to learn a well rounded character to start out with to get a good grasp on the game listen to >>343969637 cause Charlie won't teach you how to be a fucking scrub regardless how good people think he is.
>>343971398
That's because Liu Kang isn't the face of MK. At most, he's an Alex or Abel; a canon main character but otherwise not nearly as iconic as other side characters.
>>343971932
He bought the game, he's as much a part of it as anyone else. It's more like going to a restaurant, THEN realizing the food is shit, then shit talking it.
>>343972080
he was the main character of the movie tho
which is all i fucking know about mk and mk is fucking awesome
>>343972302
What you are saying is true, but ask anyone who's played MK in the last 20 years who they remember from the roster, and Sub Zero/Scorpion are going to be the first two, followed by maybe Raiden, Kano Johnny Cage and then Liu Kang.
Hell, to further the point, Ryu isn't even the main character in any SF game (2 was about Guile/Chun chasing Bison, 3 was about Alex finding Gill/Chun finding Urien, 4 was about Abel finding Seth) and yet despite not being plot important he's still the face of the series, for better or worse.
>>343964209
>purchased game at launch
>played for like a month a dropped it
>decided to download it again tonight and check out story mode
>server is down
>won't download
Welp, was thinking about getting back into the game. But leave it to Capcom to know how to drive people away.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
Most of these are legit issues.
These should be brought up to Capcom
As much as I disliked SF4, for the most part the game functioned.
I don't think there's been a more comprehensive list of issues across the board of SFV. This could actually be a good thing. A list of immediate fixes that needs to be addressed for the most part.Thanks, OP. I'll try to post these up if you don't to Capcom's twitter and email
>>343964209
But 4,000+ entrants for EVO must mean it's a good game right?
>>343973353
Not op, but I hope you do. Capcom being aware of these problems and perhaps try to fix them would only make a better game from it. I like SFV more from a gameplay aspect then 4, but you are completely right when it came to which one was more functional that's for sure.
>>343973531
>that recent interview where daigo points out all these people weren't playing SF before and are basically only in it for the e-sports money
Boy it sure does feel good to know your game's life rests entirely on whether some company decides to shell out money. It's not like half the reason I gave up playing fps online was because of this stuff.
>>343973779
Or...now stay with me here, they....are you still with me?
Maybe theyjust want to experience EVO?
I kind of wish we got more V-Triggers that aren't "Instinct Mode" or other power up states that give new move properties.
>>343964209
There's a lot of good stuff here, but you can tell there's a lot that's either really, REALLY fucking diminutive and petty
>Long maintenances
>many characters have too similiar gameplans
Or just flat opinions
>unimaginative vtriggers
>atrocious hitboxes
>WIP style UI
Good effort, but try sticking to things that can be objectively proven, otherwise it's too easy to discredit one or more of your points, and in the law of the internet, that means your entire argument is void and you're just shitposting
>>343973991
What I wanted before V was announced and everyone was bitching about ultras. Was to have the revenge gauge fund moves that only it can pull off. Like a gauge that only does EX moves.
How is Guile in SFV?
>>343974216
Can't jump in on freedom
>>343974098
>many characters have too similiar gameplans
>petty
And this is following the game where every single style worked, and even shotos felt different from each other while still being shotos.
>>343970550
>Complaining is not constructive criticism.
Dumbest shit I've read on the Internet today. Congrats anon. You get a star.
>>343974338
>even shotos felt different
Literally one of IV's biggest complaints was the amount of Shotos exactly because they all felt too similar.
>>343974476
Well, by definition, it's not. You can complain about something and say absolutely nothing of value to the creator. It's not hard.
Not saying complaints can't be constructive criticism, just saying it's not hard to complain and say nothing
>>343974551
Most of the complaints about shotos were from people looking at the game from the outside.
SFIV
>Ryu
>zoning and general street fightery
>Ken
>go in, right now
>Akuma, setups
SFV
>Ryu
>go in
>Ken
>go in
>>343974216
About as good as he was in 4. His normal flash kicks don't have hit iframes but his pokes outclass just about anyone who isn't Birdie or Cammy and his normals in general are great. He has some decent hit confirms and damage and with vtrigger he can do some stupid shit and essentially get free pressure for 3+ straight seconds. His Boom and Vskill make him the best zoner in the game, though that isn't saying much considering the only other person with a good fireball in this game is Nash.
>>343974476
>I don't know what constructive criticism entails
Keep the star. You deserve it a lot more.
>>343964209
https://www.change.org/p/yoshinori-ono-capcom-give-juri-an-alternate-color-reverting-the-changes-done-to-her-default-outfit-in-sfv?recruiter=34108446&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
It's me or Ibuki is low tier in the game?
>>343974216
He's fine but don't expect to play guile.
>>343974894
Who cares, she's just no damn fun. Why is she so fucking slow.
>>343974828
>change.org
You can't get cancer any faster anon, holy shit just off yourself already.
>>343974894
It's you. Her real damage comes from resets and bomb mixups.
>>343974998
Not the same anon, but old habits die hard. She's got interesting tools now, but the flow isn't the same for me.
Balrog on the other hand....He just works.
>>343974894
Her and Juri appear to be a bit weak
Rog and Urien seem pretty solid
>>343970815
Ryu is the only fun character in the game though. I'd be playing akuma if he were in.
>>343975807
You know what? FUCK Mike Ross for calling Birdie boring.
Alright, faggots.
>Your main
>Your least favorite part of your main
>Your least favorite matchup
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Birdie
Lack of hit confirms. I would easily give up a little damage or range on his st mk for his st jab to combo into itself.
Cammy
I hate that she can just go nuts on Birdie on his wakeup and not get punished or interrupted for shit unless I have CA but damn if those matches don't get my blood pumping.
>>343976065
Yeah, Birdie is fun as hell. And he hits like a truck. All of his CCs usually result in 400+ damage and even more if he's in vtrigger.
I've been contemplating and struggling to decide if I should get this game for over a week now. Everything I hear about it is mixed. But it's not like IV is alive anymore. GG was and is dead as fuck on PC, and MKX isn't fun playing with randoms.
Do I get it? Do I not get it?
>>343976425
g2a has it for just over $30.
It's pretty solid but has its problems. All it comes down to is whether you think it's worth $30 or not.
>>343970815
Ryu is cool and has fun playstyle, go fuck yourself. I bet you haven't even seen Daigo's Ryu
>>343973353
I'll post this via twitter and email, but I want some opinions before I make this since I want it to be as objective/ based on majority of opinion as possible.
Which of these problems op posted are bullshit?
>>343976065
>Your main
Birdie
>Your least favorite part of your main
Lack of real wake up options. Wake Up Bullhorn is unreliable unless in EX.
>Your least favorite matchup
Nash
>Your favorite part of that matchup
FUCKING STAY OUT YOU FUCK THESE BUTTONS ARE JUST TOO GOOD.
>>343964209
works for me bro RTSD
>>343976617
I'm thinking I might do it. There's no way it could get any worse than it is now. I've heard it works better online and I have to imagine they'll improve most of what's wrong with it.
>>343975018
sign it, it will make your membership bigger.
>>343976392
>Your main
Laura
>Your least favorite part of your main
Her shit neutral
>Your least favorite matchup
Characters with invincible reversals
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Free Crush Counter when I'm not being retarded
is this game finally worth getting yet
>>343978107
More than, if you actually play fighting games.
>>343978168
Maybe it's just me but I play this game and it just feels like it's not finished content wise and I am not talking juri and urine, it feels like it's missing...something else, it doesn't feel complete, I have never had this feeling about a game before either.
>>343976392
>Main
Balrog
>Your least favorite part of your main
WHAT THE FUCK CAN I DO ON WAKE UP??/still no cross up
>Your least favorite matchup
Chun li
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Literally nothing fuck that bitch
>>343968875
ken has all the tools ryu has except for the parry
both ryu and ken are strong. ken is more offense-orientated while ryu is more defensive.
>>343976392
Sure.
>Your main
Zangief
>Your least favorite part of your main
Gimped moveset, is shat on by a lot of the cast
>Your least favorite matchup
Dhalsim
>Your favorite part of that matchup
The satisfaction of breaking out of his zoning hell and whooping his ass. Happens rarely though.
>>343976392
>Your main
Ryu
>Your least favorite part of your main
he's pretty much perfect desu
>Your least favorite matchup
dhalsim. i just can't deal with the constant switching between full-screen zoning and teleport crussup mixups.
>Your favorite part of that matchup
correctly predicting teleports and anti-airing him right when he appears
>>343980302
It must feel nice to have your main be the best character in the game. I've tried to get into Ryu but shotos just aren't very interesting to play.
Bojack skin mod for Balrog when?
What the fuck was Capcom thinking when they made it so you can only throw your kunai in air while jumping forward? I have no fucking idea why they're removing shit like that from characters. Why remove staple moves from characters (ibuki's neckbreak, bison's psycho crusher etc)? Why change charge characters into motion characters? Why not have 2 selectable CAs? There's so many weird design choices in this game man. I think the gameplay is pretty solid though.
>>343982020
>What the fuck was Capcom thinking when they made it so you can only throw your kunai in air while jumping forward?
So people couldn't be dickheads.
I guarantee if Akuma showed up in the game he wouldn't be able to air fireball unless he jumped forward.
>>343981326
this is my first street fighter, i started with ryu because people say start with ryu to learn the game. i dont regret it, whenever i try out another character i immediately miss some of ryus tools that my new character doesnt have.
>invincible reversal DP
>super good anti air normals
>generally good normals for most situations
>decent projectile
>ambiguous crossup on jump-in that combos into heavy damage
for example, i enjoy playing balrog because i like his combos and juggling moves, and his normals are great too. but his anti-airs suck ass and the lack of DP makes getting knocked down super frustrating, especially against shit like laura.
i really like ryus defensive and reactionary "let them come, then punish their approach" gameplay. what other characters fit this style? i tried dhalsim but i really hate his normals. maybe guile is good for this playstyle?
>>343982775
>but his anti-airs suck ass
Uh, no.
>>343982775
With Balrog, ST MP is an amazing anti-air, and CR HP is also a good one too. The only thing Balrog is missing is a weak wakeup game and no cross ups. He's a solid character in this game though and I think you should experiment with him more.
>>343982020
Why would you need that if you have fullscreen on the ground kunai?
Being able to jump back and kunai is worthless
how do karins moves work
i just go vtrigger and mash until i do the long attacks
>3s players complain about sf4 so they went back to 3s
>Sf4 players complain about sfv but refuse to go back
Why? Noone is forcing you to play
>>343983962
Jump back projectile is a good option to do if you need to be defensive. Capcom is doing their best to snuff out defensive play in this game though so whatever.
>>343983593
>no cross ups
Because his high low game is really strong.
>>343984307
>Because his high low game is really strong.
nigga please I love Balrog but you can spot those overheads coming a mile away
>>343984140
Cause sf4 only thrived through CPT
>>343984728
Vskill into cr.lk is your low option
>>343984769
You got that backwards. CPT only became a thing because SF4 got so popular.
>>343984985
If it's so popular what is stopping sfv haters to go back and play it
>>343983019
>>343983593
i know that he has reliable anti airs, but they simply aren't punishing enough.
with ryu, you AA with a DP, you deal a ton of damage and your opponent gets knocked down.
you AA with axe kick, your opponent gets knocked down right in front of you.
with balrog, all your AA options just reset the enemy in front of you. no big damage, no knockdown. that's what i dont like.
>>343985169
Who says they aren't?
>>343984728
>dash over head
>dash sweep
>dash fake grab
>dash fake over head
>dash fake sweep
>>343976392
>Main
Cammy
>Least favorite thing about them
Nothing really, she can get zoned out pretty hard sometimes I guess
>Least favorite match up
Ken. He can do what I do but scarier because he has tech and better confirms
>Favorite part of the match up
If I scare him enough he'll stop being cancer, and most Kens panic DP, so I get all that Crush Counter damage
>>343985189
That's because you're a newbie. Considering Balrog's buttons and high/low game, a reset is far more beneficial than a soft knockdown.
>>343978591
Because it's not.
>>343985289
not that guy but am I just bad or is the dash punch cancel-into-turn window very small?
Will Capcom ever release a Street Fighter that isn't garbage at first
>>343986031
You're just bad
>>343986078
SFIV
>>343986162
Did you forget about Sagat and Seth?
>>343986243
Lots of game's have OP characters. But SFIV was the only SF that didn't have shit that was straight up broken.
>>343986031
Outside of a few combos, all of fighting game's special/super/etc cancels are mash as fast as you can.
>mfw SF5 is actually the perfection the series has been striving for since the glory days of SF2
>>343986386
SFV doesnt have op characters.
SFIV is the weakest mainline sf game.
>>343986243
St o.sagat and guile
Sf3 chun and ken
Sf4 sagat
Ssf4 fei and cammy
AE yum
Ae2012 eroo
Ultra eroo
Sfv too
Wtf do i do against grabs. How do you tech them properly
>>343986609
>ST guile
>broken
>>343976392
>Your main
Ken, Ryu, learning Alex
>Your least favorite part of your main
lives and dies by his hit confirms (Ken)
>Your least favorite matchup
Ryu
>Your favorite part of that matchup
When I make then afraid to jump, baiting uppercuts
>>343986651
Press grab at the same your opponent grabs. You have to be a demi-god to do it on reaction in Street Fighter so most of the time you'll have to predict it.
>>343986651
you have to read the situation and your opponent and assume youre opponent would want to grab or you would.
>Your main
Gief
>Your least favorite part of your main
Nothin
>Your least favorite matchup
Mika
>Your favorite part of that matchup
She has a just as shit wake up game so I can bully her too with 50/50s
>>343986031
PRBalrog changed the V-skill into a specific button for Balrog, and yeah you have to cancel as fast and you do it.
>>343986651
prediction
it comes with experience
>>343986985
Just out of curiosity if you play ranked, what rank are you?
>>343986570
The online worked in IV on day 1
IV didn't have 8 frames of lag.
IV had realistic loading times
IV could deal with rage quitters
The original point was about the game being broken, not balance.
>>343987146
the game isnt broken.
Vanilla sfiv had shit netcode day one.
only downside is lag but Id rather that then op chars.
Loadtimes are relative.
Points dont matter
>>343987146
>The online worked in IV on day 1
Holy shit, what the fuck ever, dude. The entirety of SF4 netcode was cancer and it didn't start becoming decent until Super and didn't get good until AE2012.
>>343986919
>>343986943
>>343987113
So it's all mindgames. Thanks guys i'll work on my predictions
>>343987146
Lies
>>343987125
I don't i just play with friends and locals. Sorry. Can't afford pS+
>>343987713
No problem.
>>343987563
generally you dont plan to tech. you plan to throw your opponent, a tech just happens when your opponend planned to do the same.
the only situation where you plan to tech is when you're knocked down and expect your opponent to go for a meaty throw. then you press throw on wakeup with the intention of teching their throw.
everyone is saying ryu can do some stupid damage but I haven't seen it yet, what's everyone blustering about
>>343987805
Have you not seen or played SFV Ryu? The fucker hits like a goddamn tank. That's one of the main reasons why I main him.
>>343987805
st.mp -> cr.hp -> h.shoryuken / h.tatsu
works after jump-in, works after crush counter st.hk. easy to confirm into, easy as fuck to execute.
>>343987805
750 damage cc vtrigger CA combos are fucking stupid
>>343988045
His target combo does a ton of damage as well.
>>343987805
standing mp into crouching hp into dp.
forward hp into crouching hp into dp
both those combos can go into super or replace dp with ex tatsu into ex dp into corner. Lots of damage.
Not counting crush counter combos, and back hk combos.
>>343988128
Rog can do 500 with only two bars of meter and vtrigger without rap
And 900 damage with vtrigger and tap
And 1150 damage with tap vtrigger and CA
>>343976392
>Your main
Guile
>Your least favorite part of your main
People crouching under my backfist
>Your least favorite matchup
Ken
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Punishing blocked dp with crush counter launch combo. so satisfying
>>343988278
That takes more effort than Ryu's bullshit.
>>343988278
>And 900 damage with vtrigger and tap
>And 1150 damage with tap vtrigger and CA
I don't believe you
>>343988172
no, his target combo is weak.
st.mp xx st.hp xx st.hk always does much less damage than st.mp -> cr.hp xx h.shoryuken, and they are both available in the exact same situation. plus the final st.hk whiffs on crouching opponents, leaving you exposed.
the combo i described doesnt whiff on crouching opponents, and can be canceled into hadoken instead of shoryuken if blocked, leaving you much more safe.
the target combo is useful for beginners who havent yet learned the real one. other than that, it doesnt really have a use.
>>343988498
he's mememing. you CAN do that much but you have to charge the TAP for 15 seconds
>>343988278
>>343988498
You have to charge TAP for a crazy amount of time in one match to pull that damage off. That is almost impossible to pull off unless you're playing against the worst SF player alive or someone who is AFK.
>>343988498
http://youtu.be/SJpNXNLRyLY
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
For once a list of complaints that isn't from that copy pasta. I love SFV and I agree with almost everything on this list. It makes me sad thinking SFV could've been as polished as GG Xrd Revelator. I love their lobby and money system.
>>343988278
Too bad those combos are impractical as all hell and require some execution. Ryu shits easy damage no matter what he does.
>>343988695
what is going on here im a retard at sf
>>343988950
something that isn't possible.
>>343988405
>>343988498
>>343988676
>>343988860
The tap ones are impractical sure but the two meter one isn't
>>343988996
It's possible just not probable
>>343989040
For what Balrog does with 2 meters and vtrigger Ryu can almost do with nothing but a CC.
>press jab as boxer
>Get lucky hit
>Vtrigger into 450 damage combo without using CA
We /necalli/ now
>>343989167
Video of ryu's 500 damage meterless combo?
>Rage quitter problem still present
>You have to save replays before watching them
>Training doesn't save your settings
>Battle lounge doesn't save settings
>badly designed UI - hard to navigate and counterintuitive
This, plus the ridiculous loading times, it's a real dealbreaker. Or just general time spent in menus out of battle. This game, I hit up training mode, I have to go through 5 minutes of loading screens and THEN I have to go through every menu option, to make the dummy do what I want, then I activate match search, then I get to practice my setup like two times, then it's ANOTHER FIGHT COMING MY WAY, loading screen, looking at the characters (and hope to god I didn't forget to select the character I actually wanted to play beforehand), more loading screen, play my match - have my opponent ragequit on me (at least I didn't have to stomach the ridiculously long result screens this time around), so I get another loading screen, then I'm back to training mode - not before taking another look at the character select staredown, why the fuck - and even after playing my match I have to retune the fucking dummy to do the reversals because that doesn't even stay in place after a match? What is this shit? And then the game disconnects me randomly, and I get to repeat the entire procedure and the training mode settings are back to default.
I'm trying so hard to like this, I like the gameplay itself when I'm actually having a match, but man. Imagine if this wasn't just a hobby, if you were one of those unlucky souls who make a living with this shit, and they now have to play this shit show 24/7 because that's the only game people play even though it's a fucking mess, and you have to go through these sloggy weird menus and loading sequences and terrible optimization and missing quality-of-life features that have been the standard for decades now, man I'd hate my life. If this game didn't say Street Fighter V on the tin, nobody would fucking touch it.
Sfv is bad game
>>343988950
>>343988996
>>343989123
if you charge TAP forever it gets ridiculously strong
but you have to hold down two buttons for like a minute if you want it to go up to 500 damage
>>343988695
how the fuck are you doing doing two of those in a row for the full charge damage?
>>343989828
Hold 6 buttons
Release two
Release two
Release two
>>343989414
Actually I fucked up. It's more like 350 meterless. It's only close to that if he spends a bar.
>>343989924
that's completely impractical
>gameplay solid as fuck
>can play online against others
literally nothing else matters, its just icing on the cake
>>343990192
Us /offline only/bros amirite
>>343990086
Oh really
Best I can pull with Balrog is 477 off c.hp-hk screw smash-vtrigger-l.dash punch-vtrigger punch x4-CA
I'm still learning but I think that's not bad, eh?
>>343976392
Chun Li
No meterless reversal, my meter is required in general
Ryu and Necalli. They do retarded amounts of damage
I fight Ryu himself. THE fighting game character. I gues I out poke Necalli?
>>343990698
St.hk vt cr.hp xx hk up punch ex lower f.p vskill punch ex straight f.p f.p f.k f.k
Gives same damage with one bar less spent
SFV is a better base game than IV so in a couple years it should be fantastic.
>>343991163
Nope. I disliked USF4 but I think it's better than SFV in it's current state.
>>343991326
>base game
pls read
>still no mod of gyaru jap pre order skin
>>343991404
I still think USF4 is better
>>343991487
Who cares? That's not what he was talking about.
>>343991487
It had more characters, that's it.
>>343991738
Oh he meant vanilla sf4
>>343976392
>>Your main
Laura
>>Your least favorite part of your main
shit neutral and kinda lame overhead
>>Your least favorite matchup
chun-li, she just has a better button and an answer for anything
>>Your favorite part of that matchup
when I find a way in
>>343991163
I do like SFV more than SF4, but I don't know.
I feel like there is just less to explore with it.
>>343976392
>Your main
Rashid
>Your least favorite part of your main
real bad damage in pretty much every situation
>Your least favorite matchup
Chun Li and her retarded buttons
>Your favorite part of that matchup
crush countering a whiffed EX bird kick with s.hk from what feels like the other end of the screen is pretty damn satisfying
>>343988128
Ryu doesn't do that much damage though, max is around 540 if he is already in trigger with denjin hadoken.
>>343971878
you sound like a edgy teen
>>343992870
His average combo is 300 damage. Pack that on top of any damage the opponent takes from fireballs and it's pretty high. And that's not even taking into account his vtrigger or CA.
>>343992870
He does amazing damage considering you can get between 200-300 damage off of extremely basic and easy confirms.
>>343993132
Not to mention crazy stun too.
So is this worth getting for 30 dollars?
Can you get banned for that one round survival thing?
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
dinput and server maintenance bullshit are my biggest complaints
also why isn't there an option to choose your character when you finally do get a match with someone? like in sf4?
favorite character thing is fine, but please, at least let it be an option
>>343964209
I want them to focus on 8f lag and the lobbies first and foremost.
>>343993651
maybe wait a bit so they can fix it up
if you're starving for a fighting game you can get it, it's serviceable
I haven't heard of anyone getting banned for the one round survival thing, but who knows
>>343990937
>that costume
She looks like she owns a brothel.
It's sad to that SF is only being held up by it's large player base at this point, all the things listed are important but the most important thing is a good amount of competition that grows the meta and continues interest throughout a games life. Nobody is really happy with sf5 but nobody want's to jump ship and slip into obscurity with a game that simply doesn't have the number of players it needs. And this goes double for high level players, to be competitive past a certain level you can't split your time spent across multiple games so your locked in.
Its perfect. The only way it could possibly be more perfect is withRufus
>>343994572
>that feel when it ends up like Ultra and it gets to the point where one character is so broken that people cheer when the character loses
MY UTOPIAAAAAAUUUUUGGH
>>343976392
>Your MainRASHIDOOOOOOOOOOO
>Your least favorite part of your main
Not a lot of safe options and a sub-par projectile
>Your least favorite matchup
Karin or Ryu
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Beating a top tier character with mid low is always a good feeling
>>343976392
>Your main
Charlie
>Your least favorite part of your main
He's screwed if put into a corner unless you have your V-Trigger. There's nothing he can do at that point especially to R.Mika mains.
>Your least favorite matchup
R.Mika and her fucking guessing games
>Your favorite part of that match-up
When I accurately predict what she's gonna do and punish her for it. That's rare for me, though.
>>343995284
I never ran into too much ridiculousness against Rolento. Elena though, holy fucking shit, I'm gonna be permanently triggered if they bring that slut back
>>343995448
>maining Nothing Personnel Kid: The Character
heh
>>343976392
Karin
Shit AA
Ken
Good blockchains make me very happy.
>>343995539
I fucking hate edgy they made him, but I adapted to his play style and it just stuck. Plus, he's the only character I managed to beat Survival mode on hard with, so there's that. If it makes you feel any better, I have Cammy as a secondary.
Urien is the next character right?
>>343995508
I was moreso referencing EVO when Nemo was in Top 8
>>343965545
light is -2, medium and ex are -7
>>343995812
At least he's got a reason for the edge. I'd be pretty edgy if I believed in FREEDOM and got betrayed just in time to have Bison throw me off a cliff, then get revived as a literal Frankenstein zombie just to kill Bison for some weird Russian chick.
>>343995864
Capcom: Unfortunately, Juri and Gil are not ready for release yet. However, we here at Capcom didn't want to disappoint you guys.
We decided to release Decapre and Ingrid as the next DLC characters for the August update. Look foreword to Urien and Juri at the end of September.
Have they done anything meaningful about the rage quitting yet? What about the battle lounge connection quality? me and a friend had 5 bar connection on sf4 but only 2 bar on sfv.
>>343996313
Is this a joke?
>>343995952I hate how they fucked him over in the ending of the story. He got revived only to die again and be useless throughout all of his revival.
>>343976392
>Your main
Laura
>Your least favorite part of your main
She's Karin, but shit. Bad buttons, bad vtrigger, no reversal.
>Your least favorite matchup
Anything with a reversal.
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Reading the reversal and doing 300 damage into a right-left that does another 300 damage.
>daigo thinks many players will drop it in the next year
>infiltration and tokido think it's too simple
>the dreamhack champ phenom doesn't have much fun with it
The only reason why it's still played is the CPT money. Everyone and their mother know 3rd strike and even USFIV are better than this crap that is SFV.
>>343996492
Nash drained Bison's super psycho power. They literally used the same effects and theme for Nash achieving inner peace and Ryu using the power of nothingness.
>>343996720
What else are they going to play though? Its not like IV is coming back. GG and Tekken 7 are the only options and I have to imagine 2D skills don't translate to Tekken very great and for some reason lots of people don't like anime fighters even though GG is fantastic.
>>343996720
So not only are you still living in November, but you looked into the future to only believe Daigo "Gets Bodied All the Time" Umehara and Phenom "Can only Win in Europe"?
>>343980302
You could just standing jab him out of his teleports.
>>343996897
>GG and Tekken are the only options
what happened to KOF XIV
>>343996897
Infiltration and Tokido's comments are from last year during beta 2 or 3, and Daigo believes everyone is going to Evo for the money which is kind of stupid since if that were the case they wouldn't be playing fighting games because the e-sports money is shit in the FGC.
No one takes European tournaments seriously, but people are latching on to Phenom even though Luffy is still the only Euro to achieve success outside of Europe.
It'd be like taking Keoma seriously just because he won Brazil, a tournament pretty much no one went to.
But then again everyone has to be lying at all times in order to push the memes.
>>343997406
Not him, but I don't follow KOF. What's the general consensus on XIV? Is it hype or does it look and play like shit?
>>343996453
r u retard
>>343976392
>Your main
Alex
>Your least favorite part of your main
V skill. Only ever get use out of it when I have my Opponent stunned.
>Your least favorite matchup
Guile
>Your favorite part of that matchup
I get to chop some booms.
>>343970815
Fuck you, I've used Ryu in every fucking game he's been in. He's too awesome.
>>343996720
People considered vanilla SF4 to be complete trash too. Give it time for it's second incarnation comes out and it will get it's dick sucked hard. The only for a Street Fighter player is Tekken 7 with Akuma. SF pros like Poongko and JWong are destroying a lot of players who have been playing 3D fighters for decades. Akuma was implemented very well in to Tekken.
>>343996720
>daigo thinks many players will drop it in the next year
In the same interviewer he say that Daigo says he enjoys sfv, and the reason he said that is cause their was a community built around sf4 while V is coming into that community. He also said he doesn't want that to happen at 14:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXttJzxWVQ
>infiltration and tokido think it's too simple
Tokido has also said he enjoys the game
http://www.espn.co.uk/esports/story/_/id/16584277/tokido-ceo-2016-honestly-read-[infiltrations]-mind
Infil has been pretty meh on the game and phenom doesn't seem to like it much, but at the same time you have a lot of players like Justin or Ricki saying they like it
>>343969336
This is exactly how I felt during the beta and one of the reasons I didn't bother picking up the game.
>SFV sucks
They all suck.
Its the worst fighting series out there besides maybe skull girls and actually broken shit some kids made
>>343969336
>gutted them and took the removed parts
That doesn't make sense. Characters will have a move locked behind vtrigger, two if you count stuff like Alex can sort of parry. What they get makes the character very strong so they can't just have it all the time. How is that gutted?
Most get an augmentation to their standard stuff, so don't actually lose anything they just get better. Plus it is a much better alternative to ultras
>>343976392
>>Your main
Zangief
>>Your least favorite part of your main
That he's shit all around, except for health, damage and SPD range.
>>Your least favorite matchup
Chun. Completely dominated.
>>Your favorite part of that matchup
Crush countering with hK into Critical or V Trigger into Borsch
>>344000617
What other fighting game should I play instead if Street Fighter is so trash?
>>344001631
Guilty is pretty good. But don't bother if you're on PC, we're always getting shafted and game is dead. KI is decently fun, but I don't cinsider it excellent. If you're on PS4 KoF is looking to shape up real nice.
>>344001631
The only reason people think this is cause they don't understand other games. People will say GG is good when it is set play the game and everyone is rmika
>>344001823
I've never been a fan of anime fighters like GG and BB. Don't like airdashing and most of the character designs look like trash to me. Though I haven't played one in a long while so I don't know. I don't have an XBOne and I don't think my PC could run KI. And I'm not a fan of KoF. I'm boring I suppose. I'll have to wait until 2017 to play a fighting game I'm actually hyped for (Tekken 7).
>>343976392
>Your main
Ryu
>Your least favorite part of your main
St.MK could have a bit more range, i also hate how tatsus don't hit crouching oponents aside from that, he is well rounded
>Your least favorite matchup
Chun Li atm, really hard to get in and he can attack Ryu from miles away, her slide is fucking annoying
>Your favorite part of that matchup
landing a delicious jump in combo when i finally menage to get over a fireball
>>344003553
s.mk already has a great range though.
>>343970430
>ending a game by using Birdie's V-trigger activation as an anti-air
>>344002316
Well I wish I could give you an answer at the moment, but there isn't much else to pick right not that doesn't meet your tastes. If you're enjoying SF keep playing it if you want. Fighting games may have a huge competitive following, but they are still games in the end of the day like sports are. Play what you enjoy. So if you want to try something else out I guess at the moment all I can really suggest is try out Fightcade and play some older games on there. See if any of those tickle your fancy. That or wait for Revelator to go down in price or have a good sale and try it out then to see if it's for you. If not, like you said there's always Tekken 7 in early 2017.
>>344002058
Also fuck this guy. Saying a game isn't trash because they don't understand it while he does the exact same thing in his very next sentence.
>>343976392
Akumal
Least fav part is that is is in toggen now.
Worst match up imo is either Roo or Soget.
Fav part is that he might be a dlc
>>343970815
I'm new to the game and picked Ryu as my first character because he's fun to play and somewhat normal compared to the moveset of the other characters.
And since I'm new and not very good at the game I was planning on learning the fundamentals first, such as Hadoken, Shoryuken and Tatsumaki. I'm also going to try and become good at normals(?) I think they're called as well as poking. After that I'm going to try and memorize all the other combos.
After I'm done with this I might give Karin a try but she seems to have a lot of long and complicated combos.
>wake up
>sweep
Or if that doesn't work try this:
>jumping roundhouse
>sweep
learning this char is true suffering
it's fun but sometimes i get salty when i see how much less effort other chars take to get more results
>>344004942
I tried for a bit but anyone that plays super defensive got to me.
Why can't I buy any of the costumes or stages using Steam? It clearly says "Buy on Steam" but when I press the button it says the service is unavailable or someshit.
>>344004912
Hello rookie
>>344004942
I'm learning Ibuki coming from Ryu
Honestly Ibuki is more fun but Ryu gets results
I'm waiting for Urien but I can't play charge at all so we'll see how that goes
>>343966183
Not everyone plays Ryu dude, though I'm not sure why when he's the only one that feels finished and is decidedly top 3
>343976392
Zangief
He required a shitton of patience to win
Dhalsim is sick fucker
SPDing his ass
>>344004469
>This guy is wrong let me not explain how
>>344004912
>jump hk, c.hk
Literally the scrub signature
>>344005237
No I'm saying that's what a lot of people do, even to this day people will have a tactic of spamming roundhouse.
>roundhouse
>get punished
>roundhouse again
>get bopped
>mix it up by jumping roundhouse
>anti air
>panic sets in
>sweep?
And then these people proceed to say that they hate the game.
There are 6 buttons for a reason.
>>344001823
>>344001823
>But don't bother if you're on PC
Don't bother on PS4/PS3 either, lol
My literal only problem is that it runs like garbage
>>343971684
>SFV ryu
>Pure skill
lol retards are still fighting over games instead of playing games
just migrate to r/kappa already, this is literally just a dimestore knock off at this point
>>344005975
I suck at fighting games but I love watching them
Cant even get Silver after 3 months so I just shitpost and watch high level streams
>>344005975
No man. It's far worse. It's a zone where people shake each other's dicks because of agreeing on a character choice.
But when somebody disagrees everybody goes apeshit.
>>344005624
Cause it's really simple that anyone else that actually plays Guilty Gear can answer and I don't feel like getting into an argument since I'm about to head to bed. I was just mentioning the hypocrisy in what he said was all.
>>343964209
>buying incomplete games
>buying the first edition of any Street Fighter game
step it up
>>344006332
>buy it one year after everyone
>"wah why is every bronze shitter bodying me"
>>344006414
you are getting bodied by Capcom right now
>>344006332
It is fun to see thing evolve with time.
Stick penis in bum for chun bum.
>>343966978
V reversals my man
>>344005801
For fucks sake, I wish anime fighters had more people playing them. I would love to play uniel with more people.
The only option left is to go to Japan.
>>344007073
Japan prefers blazblue
>>344007230
Im sure they do but at least they have much more people playing other anime fighters then in the states.
>>344006069
I don't think your progression is too bad. I too just started at release and I haven't hit silver yet, but I would like to think I could get there today with any luck. Feels fucking good.
>Ask for 4-5 bar opponents
>'lol,here's some poor cunt from the other side of the world on a 2MBS connection, but don't leave you we'll ban you HUEHUEHUE'
Reminder that 8 frames of input delay removes footsies and strategy from the game and basically turns it into a mashing slugfest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CBEVIDwge0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwalITH_cGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap369ES-6Xw
>>343969179
>oh wait, nobody else is having issues you prick.
Thats not what steam and metacritic says
>>343971684
This poster is completely right
>>343964235
>it's all from a reddit post from two weeks ago
>>344008465
Give me a handjob Skooks
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
Chances are they're probably aware of most of these complaints and plan to address everything at once. I'm only saying this because that's how they did things with 4. Whatever character, game design issues there were, they waited until the newest version to release all the fixes, or did a patch a few months later. I'm not saying it's okay they left things out, but how they go about resolving issues is all at once, not one at a time.
On that note
>horrible clipping everywhere (even on character select..)
That's here to stay. Accept it.
>>343971684
Ryu is balanced but hits like a truck which makes him ridiculous
Fuck this honesty meme
>tfw following some newbie guide on reddit
>tfw training fundamentals on Ryu in training mode
>tfw it's actually kind of fun and can't wait to play online
>>344010585
Who would you classify as honest in sfv
is a monitor with low response time worth it if you only play online
currently have a LG 29UM65 but it's an IPS panel which is pretty slow i've read
>extra AI in Story Mode is better than 90% of players online
>>343971684
ryu is a load of bull in sf5
>>344011343
R.mika
No projectile
Stubby normals
No reversal
Has to work hard to get in
>>343976392
Mika
heavy buttons doesn't have many uses outside of meaty f.hp, telegraphed charged s.hk, and c.hp to bait a 4f jab, starting a CH s.lp smp f.mp blender. Vskill is pretty bad too. Also, the stigma of being a Mika player. Even I can see some matches that I didn't deserve to win, but most of my matches, my punishes and pokes drained more life, with only one reset into grab closing the round.
Ryu. Fuck Ryu
None. Fuck Ryu. I do better against Fangs, that I never see than I do against Ryu. If I fight three different Ryus in a row, I close the game.
>>344011695
My favorite combo with Mika Is st.mp xx passion press xx enemy disconnect
>>344011423
I only find laggy brbrbrs online that spam ken shit with 300ping so its a refreshing change playing story
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
This list is really complete and lists many of the reasons i don't play SF5 anymore and probably never will. It is also good to see a SF thread where everyone agrees with the problems and doesn't ride capcom's dick.
I can't find people to play ranked or either lobby matches and i can't fucking filter it by region, it is trulçy awful.
>>344011890
I agree with online issues but it doesn't stop me from playing. Its stil a legitimately good fighter, I will keep playing it until my local scene dies which is unlikely
>>344011890
>trulçy
Yeah maybe the problem of finding players is living in fucking Baghdad
>>344012036
Shit, at least you have a scene near you. most of my friends stopped playing the game, even had a platinum friend that doesn't log in at all.
>>344012056
trully*
Sorry if that little misspelled word was so much of an abomination for or sensitive eyes.
>>343982020
So they can keep their word on only balancing the game with buffs instead of nerfs. But Ryu should be nerfed though.
>>343964209
ACTUALLY LEGIT AND VALID THINGS
>Rage quitter problem still present
>no dinput support on PC (SF4 ok)
>8f lag
>many characters have too similiar gameplans
>unimaginative vtriggers
>atrocious hitboxes
>SteamOS/Linux version announced - where is it?
>>344012280
v-triggers have been getting better with the DLC characters. The triggers that just buff the characters are fucking stupid.
>Game has been "simplified for a wider audience" aka casuals who just want to mash buttons
>Slow as shit movement and walk speed
>Huge floaty jumps with next to no horizontal range
>Tiny ranged normal's
>Tiny hitboxes on everything
>Normal's have a shitty priority system
>Throws are slow as shit with no range
>Links are gone and combos are now mashable
>Huge buffer window
>No close standing attacks
>No neutral jump attacks
>Dizzy making people fall out of combos
>Game is full of comeback mechanics desinged to "lower the effectivness of player skill"
>Only super can chip kill
>V-Trigger a huge universal buff you get as a rewarded for losing
>V-Reverasl a get out of jail free you are rewarded with for losing
>Receve less damage the less health you have
>Worst roster in a street fighter game to date fan favorites replaced with characters no one wanted like birdie and rmika
>Risk/Reward is skewed due to high damage from jump ins yet pitifully low damage on anti airs and how you can no longer get large damage punishes from a jab
>Huge amounts input lag
>Constant fps loss on ps4 and high end PC's
>Random input drops
>Dumbed down mechanics
>Top players already saying the game is casual garbage
>P2W
>Game literally released in an unfinished state
>Online doesn't work correctly
>No punishment for rage quitters
>lobbies that dont even work most of the time with no flags or ping
>8 frames of input lag
>>344012280
No wakeup options compared to 4 is a bigger dealbreaker than 8frames.
It makes every character without a reversal shit.
>>343988278
Rog doesn't have a projectile
doesn't have an invicible reversal
doesn't have a reversal
doesn't have retarded startup frames across the board
doesn't have a cross up
does'nt have anti-air jab
I really don't see what point you're trying to make here.
i'm still enjoying the game and like running into higher ranked players so that I can get on their level faster. i've gone from being stuck in the sub-1k shitter bracket to the 1.5k LP shitter bracket, so i'm happy.
>>344012470
>The triggers that just buff the characters are fucking stupid.
Cammy and Laura? Who else?
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
>Im going to complain about shit Capcom has said they are gonna fix
>LOL BELIEVING CAPCOM
They done everthing they said they would do so far
>>343993669
Lack of character select in ranked is really bizarre, Sometimes I want to jump around with characters yet I'm locked into this frankly, completely shit matchmaking service with no way to change it except navigate poorly implemented menus.
>>344013112
Ryu, Ken, Fang (if you can even call that a buff) Necalli, Bison, Birdie
>>343964209
>Notifications screen doesn't update when it's open
>Sending invitations when user is offline doesn't work
Why would either of these matter at all? You can literally just press B and A instantly to open the same notification screen instantly.
how can ibuki deal with rog. if he can anti air and just mash jab during overhead i see next to no chance for me
>>344012668
His point was Raw damage not who's better
You shouldnt even be trying to jump as rog, not having a cross up is fine. And st.mp is better than most AAs in the game
>>343964235
>air grab vs air grab winner chosen at random
Makes me kinda wish there was air tech that allowed you to go into a second attack.
>>344013334
You zone him
the broken matchmaking really puts me off this game.
gee whiz I sure love fighting an ultra silver when I am a bronze. I wonder who will win?
>>344013419
There are people who are still bronze?
>>344013409
but he has longer normals and can jab kunai out of the air. maybe with cr mk you can do something but it cant combo
>>344013419
Finding a match is not that fast but most people are consistently fighting people near their leagues after the last update.
>>344013419
>He actually gets matches
There can be a single person on SFIV in my country and it'll be faster playing them than V
anyone wanna play some guilty gear ????
>>344013419
I fail to see how that's a problem. When I was Bronze I salivated when I saw ultra silvers and golds. Its like winning the lottery against them
Plating against better players isn't a bad thing
>>344013207
The only things they said they would do was fix ragequitting and release story mode. Nobody was happy with the "solution" for ragequitting and story mode is total shit but "muh cinematic" right?
They only other time they addressed any other issue was to dodge it.
>>344013549
I find matches like nothing. You probably have a shit connection that even goes below the 3-5 bar connection threshold most people use. I set my bar threshold to 4-5 bars and still frequently find matches.
>>344013419
There is no real difference between silvers and bronzes, you can jump between those leagues in like an hour and they are both for massive shitters
>>344013538
You can't jab low shuriken on reaction. Keep him mid screen, sweep/cr.mk beat both dash punches on reaction
>>344013624
except for the fact that most people ragequit if they are in danger of losing a shitload of points.
good thing capcom didn't just make that count as a loss and instead had to create an elaborate system that doesn't actually punish them for quitting.
>>344013419
The whole point of a fighting game is to get better to get to the top. I wouldn't want to be fighting the same bronze-shitters all the time and only getting 50 LP when I can fight someone who's silver or gold and get triple the amount from a win.
>>344013702
>Citing the filters that literally don't work
>>344013409
>zoning in SF5
Literally all of the cast EXCEPT the traditional zoners have moves that absolutely shit on any attempt to throw a fireball or play anything except frametrap/throw/throw tech bait into death, the one viable playstyle in the whole game
>>344013814
in that case, your connection must be so bad that ecen unfiltered won't find you matches.
>>344013816
>Traditional zoners in V
So you mean Ryu and Guile.
And that fucking bastard child Nash who wasn't meant to be good at zoning.
>>343969336
I feel like they don't have enough Impact on the game and some of them are just much more beefed up then others
>Necallis give him better movespeed better normals and better specials more framedata and better damage for the rest of the game
>Cammy can use some special version of canon strike like 2 time
>Bison get's beter dashes more damage and new moves
>Kens is basiclly just an FADC
It's shit like that that throws it off for me
When ever there is a tournament, nobody ever goes "OH HE HAS V-TRIGGER NOW, THAT WILL TURN THE TIDES"
It has no pleace as an X-factor comeback mechaninc because the CA's are sort of that.
So all they are left with is some poor character trait that mostly just unlocks moves they had in previouse games for a very short time.
If it was up to me i would exaggerate them much more in S2
Like making Cammys have 3 points instead of a timer she can use.
>>343964209
crapclown will dump 'V' after the next update and then re-release it as "Super" in ~12 months, with more characters, supers, proper online play et al.
>screen cap this
>>344013816
and yet Justin Wong won majors by just pressing st.mk and st.hk
>>344013892
You're retarded, the filters have actually been broken since day 1, filtering will do nothing, you'll still get 1 bar connections even when set to 5 only.
Matchmaking is just fucked.
>>344011694
>mika
>honest
o i am laffin
>>344013772
Points really shouldn't matter to you, it's all about getting good
>>344014045
if jizzstained wang is winning tournies, you know you're dealing with a quality product
>>344013549
Dude I live in eastern europe and I regularly get 5 bar matches. Fix your internet.
>>344014252
This League system was a cancer.
Nobody cared this much about PP
>>344014027
Super Street Fighter V is being released in December. It's just the regular version with all the DLC characters and premium costumes.
>>344014127
The thing is: the netcode find a 5 bar connection while SEARCHING, but there is some fuckery going on between finding a match and the match starting that one of you get a relay connection, which is 1 bar.
XRD REV PC FUCKING WHEN
>>344013816
Almost like FADC's, right. And everyone had those in SF4.
>>344014127
Well I frequently find 5 bar connections and have the ask option enabled so I see the connection before I accept. The only time I get a laggy match is when it indicates a lower than 5 bar match and I press accept anyway by accident. You either have internet so bad you can't find anyone with a steady connection, or live in some third-world country or something. Don't know what to telly you other than to start a local scene or refund the game.
>>344014430
So what you're saying is that matchmaking is fucked
>>344014127
You realise it is not a weird thing to have one man working on it?
Like did you even look into over games?
>>344014027
I doubt they'll "dump" V. The old version will still work and play online against an eventual Super version with the DLC characters from this year.
>>344014253
How did wong become so fat?
He looks even worse today
>>344014485
FADCs were also fucking terrible but not for the same reasons, zoning was still viable in that game and it at best nullified it rather than shitting on the player zoning
>>344013973
>When ever there is a tournament, nobody ever goes "OH HE HAS V-TRIGGER NOW, THAT WILL TURN THE TIDES"
Nobody overreacts like that, but having V-Trigger changes some things.
I can't comment on other characters, but for Bison V-Trigger
- If you end hitconfirm into inferno (off cr.MK throw bait for example), you can VTC it for additional damage to end the round
- EX headstomp in V-Trigger is one big "NO" for any fireball
- Doing EX Blast, VTC, EX Blast is pretty much a victory in fireball war, even against Guile with V-Trigger active (and also works like anti-air if they jump first blast)
- Inferno in VT is solid anti-air (better than cr.HP), so it's a new option
>>344014489
>Works for me ;)
>>344014523
Well, that's what everyone was saying since launch till today, I just found exactly what is fucked.
>>344014613
Have you considered that the problem might be in you and not the game?
>>344013816
zoning works great against gief. since they took away his only tool to deal with zoning and then said he's the best he has ever been in a SF.
>>344014821
I've considered that but it also seems to be a rather widespread problem so I'm going ahead and putting that one on the backburner.
Not to mention I have no issues in any other games on console or PC.
>>344014821
Many others with good connections have those problems. I can't play online half the time with an irl friend who's 10minutes away from me and we both got top tier connections.
>>343966978
>How do I get out of the corner against a Mika
You lose the round and get sent back to the middle of the screen.
>>344014971
He has his vskill and headbutt to deal with zoning
>>344013816
I generally like this game more mcuh more then 4 but i have to agree with you that zoning and fireballs where shit on in this game horribly
Fucking Ryus fireballs have too much startup and shit hit and block advantege even in V-trigger.
His whole thing used to be fireball lord.
>>343966978
Haha don't get in the corner lol
Fuck this game
>>344014587
Yea and then there is Fangs that just puts a poison cloud around him.
I really don't get how V-triggers are suppose to work in this game.
>>343976392
>Ryu
>I sometimes feel as if I can't grapple fast enough
>Alex
>If they start acting arrogant, I can bait them into some damn good damage
>>344015253
He can use it as combo extender. But that's nothing compared to options Bison gets.
Can Fang VTC something unsafe to avoid punish?
I really want to know what the fuck capcom did with all the sony money they got. They clearly didn't spend any of it on the game because we have bengus doodling, one korean man in charge of some of the buggiest netcode in fighting games, and 3/4 of the character models being outsourced to freelancers
>>344015167
>His whole thing used to be fireball lord.
No it didn't.
Dreading the inevitable butchering of Sagat.
>No godlike stand roundhouse
>Stubby normals that barely outrange Ryu
>Tiger Uppercut will trade even more, or fuck it, they might even just straight up remove it (Balrog's headbutt was too good, right?)
>No reason to ever use fireballs
>Tiger scar V skill/super scar trigger
>B-but Tiger Knee is pretty good now!
>>344015253
>around him.
It seems you don't know anything about the game in general
Never mind most of what that guy says goes over or neutralises his traps. Fang isn't even good
>>344014574
"dump", as in no longer support the game with the updating model they've adopted so far; rather, re-vamp the entire game, as they did with each iteration of IV
this amortisation approach has clearly not worked for anyone and to persist with it could endanger the IP proper.... crapclown themselves have clearly stated that they'll no longer be subject to release scheduling, instead waiting until products are deemed complete and read to ship.
if 'V' and 'Umbrella' haven't been recognised as the canaries in the coal mine to this company's demise that they clearly are, then they deserve to go under
>>343976392
>>Your main
Alex, ryu
>>Your least favorite part of your main
alex has 2 safe moves and they're long range pokes, ryu has 10,000 other scrubs like me playing him, so im about to drop him
>>Your least favorite matchup
Nash, Bison
>>Your favorite part of that matchup
walling nash out with alex
>>344015403
3 words: resident evil
>>344015418
they will completely remove one of his fireballs. Just like they only gave Juri her low fireball.
Why is "don't get hit" the only strategy for mika? Its unfair to lose to because you lost the coinflip in the corner into stun into dead
>>344014580
that's not fat -- that's morbid, life-endangering obesity
watch his doco ' Lords of Chinatown' to get an insight to how dumb and manipulable the dimwit is, and it will qualify his weight / addiction / recidivist behavioural issues
>>344015558
They had to appeal to anime players somehow
When are we getting the summer costumes?
>>344015558
>Its unfair to lose to because you lost the coinflip in the corner into stun into dead
Yes.
Yes it is.
>>344015665
Probably next update, which better be Urien
>>344015481
money blown on a copy-pasta FP game that vox pop is already saying has pretty much killed the franchise in the eyes on many of its core fans?
>>344014821
>>344015056
The matchmaking has trouble with some providers because of NAT, IPv6 and shit. People with problems should call up to their provider and see if they can change it. It's free, so you don't have a reason to not try.
>>344015338
sweep, and he can combo of a crush counter
>>344015705
the order is already set as Juri then Urien. Unless they decide to release both of them at the same time and then start the next season early. Which they really need to do if they plan to try get more of the sales they were hoping for.
>>344015665
>When are we getting the summer costumes?
yeah... that;ll fix the game -- more up-chuck clownfits for virgins to fap their otaku flops over
>>343976392
>Your main
Necalli
>Your least favorite part of your main
Shit normals with no range
>Your least favorite matchup
Leave it to me to find the one character that has to get close to Zangeif
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Command throwing him
The core game is good, but it have too much unpolished edges. It's like when you want to go to the club, but then you remember you are a ugly fat fuck.
>>344015849
The order already changed once, plus the sales seem fine especially that boost it got with story mode. Steamchart numbers at least quadrupled that day
>>344015802
Change what exactly?
>>343976392
>Your main
M.Bison
>Your least favorite part of your main
No 3-frame normal
>Your least favorite matchup
Any grappler. Especially Zangief or Mika
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Sometimes I guess right.
The OP forgot the 30fps NPCs and the shitty filter on the stages.
The fog in particular makes the stages look worse than they actually are. A modder removed the shitty mono-color lightning filter on the stages, look how much better they look.
>>344016145
From IPv6 to IPv4. Some people on Steam and Reddit said it solved their problems.
>>344016330
I'm already on IPv4. Checked again to just now to see if provider somehow changed it. Its still IPv4.
holy fucking shit am i annoyed at every fucking retard spamming dp 24/7. you cant get no mixups going at all because people are just mashing their asses off 24/7. gotta play soo slow to cc them because people cant stop mashing
had tro get that off my chest because i just lost to a dp spamming ken scrub. i wish they would just normalize his hitstop timing. it's just terrbiel that he has such a different one
>>344016061
there were 10000 people that bought the game when the update came out. Then 6000 refunded it.
a number quadrupling doesn't mean shit when only 1500 people are playing the game normally and it's already back down to 2000 after 4 days.
>>344016471
Block and crush counter
>>344015858
I already love the core of this game. I admitted that it does need a whole lot more polish.
>>344016302
That looks pretty good. Link to mod?
>>344016504
Where did you get either of those numbers?
>>343976392
>main
Gief
>least favorite part of your main
Gief is inherently broken. No mobility/buttons/tools.
>least favorite matchup
Ryu
>favorite part of that matchup
Nothing. A bad Ryu I can't read and a good Ryu can't be beaten if hes patient. Ty Capcom for no fireball punish.
Doesn't really help now that matchmaking is fixed they only put me up against splats and there the matchup is just fucked.
>>344016585
Yeah shit hitboxes, 8 frames of input delay and no variety is great
>>344016551
i know and it's what i am doing but every time that dp where i am thin king " he can't be that bad that he would throw out another one" gets me
>>344016637
steamspy and steamcharts
>>344016464
Do the port-forward then.
>>343969179
>>waaaa I don't like change!!
>objective mechanical flaws and low production quality now qualify as "change"
Whatever you say corporate drone
>>344016865
Where did you get the recent number on who bought and refund, neither have that exact info just all time
Also that shows a gain now and for the last 24 hours, even after the intial boom
>>344016823
Then block and xrush counter. At most just step back a little so if he tries something else it won't work and you still have ages to punish that dp
>>344016936
I did those when I was trying online with said irl friend. He did them too.
>>344014971
>Three moves to deal with zoning
>"He's so fucking bad at dealing with zoners!"
You just suck, man,
>>344016865
>>344016993
Not one of the two anons arguing.
But the playercount will probably fall back to 1k after July.
It will stay slightly boosted for now because of the recent update and because EVO is soon.
The casuals who looked into it for the story mode update will be gone rather soon.
>>344016617
It's called Sunny Days.
http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/s68PntLt/file.html
I hope someone at Capcom sees how better the game would look without the fog. At least give us the option to remove it, like the motion blur on PC.
(here it looks kind of dark, but it has nothing to do with the Mod, but with whoever took the screen from, he didn't set the right brightness balance).
>>344017145
His ISP is the same as yours?
>>344016747
>This meme
Never change.
>>344017281
Not a bad assumption but that's why the adopted this dlc model. Even little stuff like costumes gets attention
>>344017306
Yep. He's on PS4 though, ethernet on the console ofc and he's done the ports for that, I know they're different from the PC ports.
>>344017293
Thanks, anon. I'll try it out when I'm back from my job.
>this thread is 11 hours old
>has more content then SFV
>>344017428
But the DLC model they are running is actually bad if it relies on active players to keep buying things.
Not (just) related to SFV, but I saw people talking about port-forwarding and I'm going to throw me in it as well.
Should I open the ports for my PS4? Right now it's connected via PPPOE.
>>344017582
And that is happening, any new dlc character or costume you'll see online and it gets discussion everywhere so people are interested in it
>>344017428
the dlc model does absolutely nothing to help in the long term
>>344017582
Not necessarily.
It understands that the average "gamer" is a novelty seeker. Even if the core audience is 1,000 players big, casuals will come back, buy a costume, mash buttons online for a few days and then go back to the flavor of the month game until the next update drops.
That doesn't even include those players who play regularly.
>>344017749
But it does as it gets interest back and creates more reasons for people to buy it in the future. We are at a higher point than last month, it will dwindle in time and then gets people back. That's just how it works with games
You could at least post the full chart as well
>>344017906
the entire problem capcom has is they aren't getting new players buying the game. That's why the game is still selling terribly.
The game has doubled what ultra had last year at evo, it's doing fine
Just a heads up: You can get the SFV Season Pass at a discount on GMG if you use the voucher.
I play this daily and I'm Gold. I completely agree with everything OP said. It's rushed and it's noticable. And the fans have to suffer just because of LOL ESPORTS. They released this one year too early imo.
>>344017479
Fuck capcom and that one guy who made the netcode then.
FYI: For PC, you can fix Ken's fucked up hair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8F8lWfBYN0
>>344017983
> aren't getting new players
you haven't shown that. At best you have shown that when ultra was dwindling on steam now their new game is getting 1,000 - 2,000 so has grown
>That's why the game is still selling terribly.
But it is, and that report they did which said it sold 1.4 a few months back also said it had steady sales continuing.
>>344018193
Ew. Burn this shit.
>>344018063
Why would you pay for that when you can use round 1 survival mod to get a million fight money easy
>>344018052
and if capcom decides that spending over a million dollars a year on tournaments for a game that isn't bringing in nearly as much money as they were expecting the entire scene will immediately collapse just like it did for SFxT
>>344018052
"Game sold like shit, but more people entered at EVO!"
I'm sure that warms Capcom's heart.
>>344018256
Because I'm not a cuck.
>>344018063
Most of the stuff /v/ waifufags want doesn't even come with the Season Pass.
>>344018263
SFxT failed because people had SF4 to go back to. Now capcom literally killed SF4 for SFV to take it's place.
>>344018193
Ken's hair style is fine. The only problem with it is the in-game textures.
>>344018263
But the numbers show the opposite. Big tournament turn out means they are getting a lot of support
Why do you want the game to fail so much? You realise if we went back to those other numbers the fgc would start to die again?
>>344018389
Pretty sure Juri and her alts are included.
>>344018389
Urien is and he's my husbando
Remember that everyone that wants to play the new characters now to download the 1 round survival mod. You can get 100000fm in about 3 minutes. Capcom don't seem to care
>>344018427
The style, yes, but those two bananas hanging off the front is awful. Pior's fix for Ken's hair and slight alterations to the face make it perfect. His Alex and Q mods are amazing, too.
>>344018456
5000 people isn't a lot for a triple a company. It doesn't matter if they bought every piece of dlc. Capcom expected to get a massive casual audience like MK gets that's why they designed their dlc around hardcore players getting free dlc while the casuals have to pay. The FGC is nothing except an advertisement for capcom and it's clearly not helping them
I don't want it to fail but pretending that it's going to be perfectly fine and there's no way capcom would ever drop support when they are getting almost nothing out of it you are fucking insane. They completely killed Megaman over less
>>344018193
That mod is bad and whoever made it should feel bad.
>>343976392
>Your main
R. Mika
>Your least favorite part of your main
Weak neutral game
>Your least favorite matchup
Nash
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Getting that bastard into the corner, watching him teleport out and throwing him back in.
>>344018550
We do care. You will find out soon enough.
>>344018838
>Getting that bastard into the corner, watching him teleport out and throwing him back in.
Nice guess ;)
>>344018782
>Capcom expected to get a massive casual audience like MK gets
I'm getting more matches in SFV than I had in MK9 or MKX though??
>>344018782
Name another fighting game tournament with 5,000 for one game. Sfv is doing well, selling 1.4 after 2 months is good and capcom said it was continuing to sell steadily over time
You have not proven the dlc is doing badly
Tou also haven't supported they will drop it, in fact they have said otherwise in that report again. They supported af4 when it was getting less people playing. You are trying so hard to bend everything to be a failure
>>344018796
How though? Sure, the beard/glasses shit is awful, but the first part of the mod is great.
>>344018794
>stealing PC niggers hate paying for things
More news at 11.
>>344019082
SFV didnt sell 1.4 million, it shipped 1.4 million.
It also expected to sell 2 million in the first month.
The game has bombed
>>344019092
The face looks like some neanderthals, doesn't fit the style and that beard is just shitty
Is it meant to be max? Are you playing a mod with his face?
>>344018456
>Why do you want the game to fail so much?
Not him, but i am really want companies that pull as much anti consumer shit as capcom to drop off the radar.
They shouldnt be able to sell such an early access scam + season pass for full price and then still succed just because the game has the brandname "streetfighter" plastered on.
Any other game with the exact same mechanics would have died already if it did this.
>people actually bought this stage
>capcom actually thought this was acceptable in a fighting game
this is a whole new level of incompetence out of capcom
>>343964209
Too bad the majority of 5 is such a shitshow, as a system I MUCH prefer this v shit to focus attacks and ultras. Those 2 things alone kept me off the game for the most part.
>>344019092
The new face mod is the problem.
The beard shit is stupid, but that new face mod is terrible. The only good thing is the hair.
>>344018193
>ugly ass menu pose
>doesn't look like ken
>fucked up texture glitch
>have to use the colored character icon mod for it to match
The only good thing about this mod is the fixed hair. The guy should just make that a standalone mod.
Why even bother making a "new face" mod if you're not actually gonna make it look like Ken? I'd love to see someone who doesn't try to make edgy-looking meatheads make a new Ken face, perhaps based off of his story artwork face.
>>344019202
Point to where it says shipped on the report. Miss by 600k is not a failure, most fighters struggle to sell that much alone
>>344019250
It's a great looking stage. I don't see the problem here.
>b-but it's not viable for tournaments!
That's why they banned it.
>>344019276
the v system should be better but how poorly it's implemented makes it shit. You can reliably build meter on about 4 characters with their v skills and v trigger is supposed to be some unique thing for each character but half the cast just got a generic damage buff
>>344019242
Anti consumers shit like free updates, telling you what will be in the product at launch and supporting the competitive community?
removing vortex was a mistake. on wakeup the only options are holding backwards and throw jabs or eating throws and frametraps since there are no safe wakeups
jumping is way too rewarding and risk-free
no 1F combos or other entry barriers means the entire game is figured out in a couple of months while people were still discovering things in ultra just weeks before V released
characters without reversals has a immidiate disadvantage since backdashing sucks and v-reversal is throw- and blockable for some reason
the entire V-trigger mechanics feels bare-boned since they boil down to reversals, combo extenders with minimal damage or making certain moves safe
>8 frames
Ryu is completely busted as he was in SFxT
PROTIP: if you're one of the newfags that signed up for EVO, you wont make it out of pools and chances are you dont like smash or anime games so you're immidiately out in day 1 and you'll go home feeling sick that you maybe arent the american daigo like your shiny gold rank online indicated.
At which point you throw it away and go play other games and SFV slowly but surely loses both casual and professional interest until the bubble bursts and capcom and the FGC gets thrown back to the dark ages like what happened with starcraft 2 because at the end of the day the brand name cant make solid ground for a scene if the game is shit unless its blizzard and believe me SFV is complete trash
thank you for your time
>>344019250
Opinions like these are why companies don't take a lot of gamers' complaints seriously.
>>344019510
tl;dr
>>344019250
>Comfy music
>Comfy aesthetics
>Rival School characters and a pimp ass monkey in the background
Fuck yourself, that's the best stage. Besides no one with any self-dignity would actually take a Birdie to EVO.
>>344019290
>>344019317
Idk. I guess opinions and all that, but I like the hair+new face (beard is shit, yes). I dig his Alex, too.
>>344019475
>Anti consumers shit like free updates
nigger the basic features that were supposed to be in the game are still broken we still can't even see flags for lobbies and all of the stat tracking is still broken. including a storymode that should have been in the game at launch isn't pro consumer you fucking dumb piece of shit.
>>343964209
>this level of autism
nigga it's not the best game ever, we get it, altright.
now take a seat and calm down
>>344019250
>>344019362
What kind of shit tourney player doesn't know how to react to the can just because they can't easily see it rolling?
>>344019514
Then companies must be pretty fucking stupid, because stages that give competitive advantage to certain characters are dumb.
Thing was tournament banned before the day was out.
>>344019664
>that face
He looks like fucking Mozgus.
>>344019475
>free updates,
Yeah those are called patches and its mostly stuff that should have been in the game right from the start.
Any half decent company patches faulty products after a while.
But SF5 is still the early access mess it was in february with minor fixes now.
>Telling you what will be in the product at launch
Doesnt effect the actual quality of the product if they "tell" us its bad in advance.
Then its still bad.
>supporting the competitive community?
They support it because its free advertisement and they hoped to gather some twitch/esport audience and bux.
It doesnt effect me in the slightest that they support the competitive community.
>>344019664
The Alex mod is ruined by the facial expressions too. He looks like one of those sad clowns instead of looking serious like Ryu. This guy does this with all of his mods, which is disappointing because he always has good ideas in concept.
>>344019681
The only valid bits in that spew are the stats and flags, two small elements especially as you can see connection.
>how dare capcom tell me exactly what will be in the game at launch and then add more later! Its like I didn't have the option to wait!
>>344019451
Even with this half-assed application it's better than the last main gimmick. Fuck capcom for rushing 5 out the door after 3 (T H R E E) beta phases and still having these issues. It could have been the absolute shit, now it's just absolutely shit.
>>343976392
>Your main
R. Mika
>Your least favorite part of your main
Stubby normals and her sweep; I really wish she had a normal non-slide c.hk. I think the frame data puts it at one of the slowest sweeps in the game besides I think giefs, and she moves forward so you're always in punishable range. However, I think if her normals were any better she would be OP, I'm really grateful for her corner pressure and brimstones into brimstones. Also, her non ex-wingless airplanes don't seem to have too much utility besides instant sideswitching v trigger shenanigans and as an anti-air against nash's aerial somersaults, as they loses to most jumpins unless you do them years in advance. Ex is p great tho.
>Your least favorite matchup
I think generally I dislike playing against characters with non-ex invincible reversals because I'm too afraid of applying wakeup pressure against them, and I think I like most people dislike their frametraps from getting blownup by mp shoryukens.
>Your favorite part of that matchup
ch Lady Mika>Lady Mika xx ex wingless airplane
>>343970815
>how to make SF6 the best game ever: kill fucking Ryu
They'd just replace him withadultSakura
>>344019782
Enough of them that it warranted a stage ban :^)
You know what, the game is unfinished and rushed, but what if capcom waited a year to release a more complete game, people didn't liked it, and capcom said "sorry, this is the finished version, we'll only fix some bugs here and there"? At least now they can polish the game to the community's liking, and keep their word on balancing the game with buffs instead of nerfs. (Ryu should be nerfed though, fuck that hobo).
But that fucked up the sales, so I don't know if it was worth it.
That's is just wishful thinking, i should never trust capcom.
>>344019618
>take a Birdie
Ibuki. Sim. And it just doesn't magically happen at EVO, it actually affects anyone playing on that stage!
Would be nice if the astroturfers played the game a bit before spewing bullshit.
>>344019819
You've gone completely off the rails f4om anti consumer
So it's bad that they added stuff but it isn't?
Telling you stuff isn't good?
Supporting those who like the game isn't good?
>>344019875
I just wish they'd make SF a bit more serious again. SFV's roster looks like clown college.
>no Gouken
>no Akuma
>no Sagat
>no Gen
>>344016747
What's wrong with the hitboxes? It's not like if they fixed the input lag it'll make everyone twice as good. If you aren't good at sfv you won't be after the lag fix
>>344019959
sf5 could have turned out fine if they sold it as an early access game for $40. They could have still had their cpt event and then they could still release it a year later as a full release for the large chunk of sales.
Instead capcom tried to get both audiences at once and fucked up hard. It doesn't matter how much they update the game there will never be a large player increase
>>344019798
>A stage not made for competitive play
>"OH SHIT BURN THEM GUYS THEY'RE TRYING SOMETHING FUN!"
Fuck you.
>>344020049
they have no excuse for the hitboxes in the game
>>344019967
>it actually affects anyone playing on that stage
Only specific characters. And it's not like they become completely invisible.
>WAAAAAAAAAAHHH SFV IS SO UNFUN
>Alright, have this comfy ass beach.
>WAAAAAAAAAAHHH IT'S NOT COMPETITIVELY VIABLE
You're just a sperg having another fit.
You know reading through this thread why do people say pick Ryu. For any other game I can understand but in SFV he has a clear advantage that a lot of other characters don't have an invincible wake up. Wouldn't that teach bad habits for other characters when you started trying to learn them. He's also a lot more offensive in this game then he was in previous games but then again everyone is.
>>344020049
>If you aren't good at sfv you won't be after the lag fix
Well, I went from being able to successfully antiair about 25% of the time to almost never missing an aa, so I'd say it helps.
>>344018995
Not him, but its always hilarious when someone v reversals against a tick grab, especially when they do it against mika. What the fuck did you think I was going to do after two blocked jabs?
>>344020210
You understand hitboxes aren't meant to perfectly fit a model right?
>>344020048
Necalli is more serious and edgier than everyone you just listed. And Ryu looks more serious than ever in SFV.
They just have more varying personalities now.
>>344020337
wow
>>344020237
>it only matters if you want to play Birdie at EVO!
>it's only every character with a ground projectile!
keep moving those goalposts
>>344020291
there's no reason to ever pick any other character. Ryu is top tier because he has the tools for everything and does some of the highest damage in the game. Capcom doesn't understand how jack of all trades balance works. So all the good characters can do everything while all the shitty characters are specialized
>>344020291
No, Ryu is tip of the top tier.
>>344019510
Right, like wakeup shoryukens were safe in 4.
>>344020431
Hi dsp
>>344020448
That I understand I'm talking about someone learning the game and wanting to play someone else.
>>344020049
>Actually trying to defend input lag
Please kill yourself
>>344020362
That's two characters out of 20, mixed in with goofballs like Birdie, Mika, FANG and Zangief.
>>344020319
>What the fuck did you think I was going to do after two blocked jabs?
Anti-air grab because literally everyone jumps out of any form of light-light blockstring?
>>344020038
>So it's bad that they added stuff but it isn't?
Its stuff that should have been in from the start.
That they still havent fixed most of the major issues says enough.
Its bad that the stuff isnt already in the game, it would be even worse if they didnt patch it slowly.
That doesnt make their updates a heroic action, its something that should be completely expected from them at this point.
>Supporting those who like the game isn't good?
The only reason they support them is because they want added exposure for their game, its a marketing strategy not their kindness of heart.
>>344020436
>implying I'm not a different anon
You're not exactly bright, huh?
Also, how many characters with a ground projectile are there, except for Birdie?
That's what I thought.
>>344020705
Juri
since they removed all of her fireballs except the ground one
>>344019510
This is either bait, or you're just stupid.
Either way, if you hate this game so bad, just make a SF4 thread so I can shit post that.
>>344020210
Yeah, let's just make the slow wall projectile completely impossible for low airborne attacks to clear.
>>344020612
>juri
>urien
>balrog
>ryu
>nash
>guile
>cammy
>chun-li
all non-clowny characters
>>344020048
After Alpha, I don't want to hear shit about SF being serious. That's a pipe dream at best.
>>344020776
Wow, two characters out of a roster of 22+.
SFV is unplayable now.
>>344020612
God forbid the game have any light hearted characters. Just play the edgelords in game if thats what you need. Nash and Necalli should be more than enough for you.
>>344020776
I still hate that. And her v skill is literally *teleports behind u*
Oh well.
>>344020792
if only there was some move that you could use to jump over the enemy and attack them.
I guess that's impossible we better just make her shit tier by giving her a fireball that easily gets beat by jump ins and lows and can be traded with certain normals by just attacking through the fireball because it disappears the moment she is hit.
>>344020856
Most of them are still pretty clowny due to how exaggerated they are, like Juri, Urien, Nash and Balrog. I want a more level-headed approach.
>>344020624
Or a grab tech, which obviously doesn't work against a command grab. I don't think I've gotten a normal grab on nash's v reversal, but none of my friends play him so my experience playing him is limited to online play, and that usually devolves to them doing somersault full screen and getting air grabbed or doing wakeup v trigger and panicking when I block it.
>>344021001
>two characters out of a roster of 22 should be more than enough for you
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
>having fun online
>Ryu comes in
Fuck capcom and their mascot. This motherfucker is killing all the fun this game can have. He anti-aired me with motherfucking c.mp, a fucking straight punch. He is always in advantage on air to air situations, even if you're the one hitting him.
I swear to God, I'll never fight a Ryu again, I'll let the bastard win, even if take my points. I'm just trying to have fun, and that fucking hobo bring the whole game down. I don't even know how I didn't closed the game after that last fight.
>>344021030
well ur clearly idiot that doesnt know how to play!! ur not supposed to use a charactars tools, ur suposed to mash crush counter button and jumpin. special moves are for ending combo ONLY
>>344021435
Ryu is easiest match-up for me.
But any grappler matchup is guessing game.
>>344021239
KoF's entire shtick outside of a couple of games have been realistic characters.
>>344021435
Ryus are usually easy Ws except when they know how to play defense.
FANG magically disappeared! Ban this stage!
>>344021706
Its stages like these I want to see more
>>344020894
I didn't play a whole lot of 4, which characters had low projectiles again? I can only remember Juri, sagat, (deejay?) and I think c.viper had ranged attack that needed to be blocked low, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a projectile. Did rolento's knives needed to be blocked low?
>all this hate on Ryu
>only 2 out of the top 50 players are playing Ryu, Daigo and Tokido
>>344021030
Yeah, that's a great plan giving her a free anti-air elbow every time.
Any Euros who want to play?
>>344021985
I don't play with Daigo and Tokido, I play online, and online is 80% Ryu's.
>>344021985
CPT top**
>>344021998
you realize the fireball is slow enough to always be swept, if the opponent isnt already jumping forward anyway.
nice attempt at theory fighter though
>>344021998
Lauras fastest fireball is 47 frames plus the 7 for the heavy bolt charge. I dont know what kind of slow ass jump in you are doing
>>344019250
>new
Stages fucking up with the foreground has been a thing since the 90s.
>>344019250
t.Smashbaby
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![Ryu_(CFA)[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/qNS5GL3.png "Ryu (CFA)[1]")
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