SFV SUCKS
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Matchmaking still sucks
No way to filter by region (SF4 ok)
No way to set input lag like GGPO to make long distance matches playable
alt+tabbing still switches host on PC
One side rollback
Saving many replays results in date corruption
Rage quitter problem still present
You have to save replays before watching them
Can't sort friends
Separating favourites (players you want to watch) from friends (players you want to play with) is needed
No online training (SF4 ok)
Archaic lobbies - no way for multiple matches at the same time
Statistics are still empty
Notifications screen doesn't update when it's open
Sending invitations when user is offline doesn't work
Battle lounge doesn't save settings
Long maintenances
Losing connection to servers interrupts offline modes
No chat support - no way to make friends in game
Too few sorting options for favourites, world rankings & replays
Turning off the music also turns off 'HERE COMES THE NEW CHALLENGER'
badly implemented legacy controller support (complicated as fuck)
no instruction how to use legacy controller support
no dinput support on PC (SF4 ok)
no key binding on PC
keyboard can only be P1 controller
no way to change specific graphical settings on PC without accessing config files (blur etc)
standard moves marketed as something new by making them into vskills
8f lag
many characters have too similiar gameplans
unimaginative vtriggers
atrocious hitboxes
differences between p1 and p2 side collision (floating point fuck up)
air grab vs air grab winner chosen at random
long loading times
framerate issues on PS4
fucked up button settings on character select - pressing again unsets buttons (SF4 ok)
no Steam integration
no way to set character themes in Versus
PC version badly optimized (+various issues with launching the game, random fps drops etc)
badly designed UI - hard to navigate and counterintuitive
Extra Battles?
Daily Challenges? (aka targets)
Subpar tutorial
Training doesn't save your settings (SF4 ok)
No character specific training options (Vega's claw state etc.)
No option to set stun bars
Quick reset with setting position (MvC3 ok)
Badly implemented ways to record dummy actions (reversals, alpha counters etc.)
Infuriating survival mode - the only way to unlock colors (colors per character, per costume...)
No arcade mode/cpu versus (SF4 ok)
No way to acquire premium costumes still
CFN account is not really an account (can't use it on a different console/steamid)
Ken's face aka quality of some models is.. questionable
stage transitions?
special KOs? (bus, noodles etc)
horrible clipping everywhere (even on character select..)
stage interactions are rare (breaking boxes etc)
WIP style UI
P2 physics still broken on character select (solution - disabled boob physics :( )
some Alt costumes use upgraded face/hair models - what about standard?
no form of tournament mode
only one player has the ability to start a rematch/change characters (SF4 ok)
CPT rules were MIA for months
no word about Alex version bug
no restart match option?
hold pause option global - should be quick in single player modes
SteamOS/Linux version announced - where is it?
anon are you okay
Wew lad
>>343964965
BUSTER WOLF>inb4 KOF shill
Also, censored.
Shit you are genuinely mad. Please keep posting. Get it all out.
>>343964209
You're correct Anon, but I'm sure some faggots will disagree regardless.
>>343964209
Thanks Sherlock fucking Holmes
I got this game yesterday and I'm getting memed by Lauras and Mikas online. Is that elbow move from Laura punishable?
>>343964209
what. im not reading all that shit. if you think you have a complaint against the game about about you beat me in a first to 3 to determine if ill accept your complaint.
>>343965545
Yes
>>343965545
probably but its all laura can really do
>>343965545
light elbow is safe but -2 i think, so it's not really their turn after that. If you have a 5 frame medium button you can counter hit them if they try to jab after and convert into full combo. Medium elbow is -7, you can get a full punish combo.
>>343965545
Fireball it
Don't be afraid to throw fireballs at close range, just take very special care to be unpredictable about it with your timing, bait and punish the jump in also
your really reaching with a lot of those points anon. I'm not big into playing online, but it isn't that awful. Though rage quitting is infuriating. That should have been priority #1.
>>343965545
>>343965904
Also, as for mika, how is she getting in on you? If she's doing the flying peach a lot, you can punish that on reaction by recognizing the crouching startup animation and DPing or parrying, since she can't cancel out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gY0qg__hQw
>>343965904
You'll trade with the fireball's extended hurtbox and even worse they can just ex elbow right through.
>>343966195
You're forgetting that EX elbow is an EX move, they can only do it when they have meter, and also it is EXtremely punishable on block so when they get meter and they look like they want to elbow you, start faking them out with random midscreen standing normals so they waste the bar and take even more damage.
>>343964450
>>343964345
>>343964235
>>343964209
Aside from a few things this is actually a good list that people should be spamming to force Capcom to address this bullshit.
>>343966493
Yes, but fireballs have worse recovery in this game. Was referring to you saying you shouldn't be afraid to throw fireballs at close range, not very good advice in general.
>>343966139
>I'm not big into playing online, but it isn't that awful.
The netcode LITERALLY distributes all lag to one of the 2 players. How in fucks name isn't that awful?
>>343965718
>>343965741
>>343965821
>>343965904
>>343966183
Thanks, guys. I'll try those things. Also, looking at that video I guess I should try to be agressive as much as I can in this game, right?
New to fightan. How do I get out of the corner against a Mika as Alex?
More generally, what should I be doing as Alex? Most of my success so far has come from poking people with his medium buttons from afar and throwing them when they're close.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
Please have sex.
>>343964209
Is this a SFV thread or something?
I'm just on my way to the beach.
>>343964450
>special KOs? (bus, noodles etc)
Wait, what the fuck even happened to those? Did they just flat out remove them?
>>343966978
What you should be doing as Alex if you're new to fighting games is not playing Alex and switching to Ryu
Alex is a command grab character, his whole gameplan revolves around landing some extremely risky guesses, you need to be able to read your opponent like a book and condition them to act in certain ways to be successful with him, you need to be able to tell exactly what your opponent is thinking at all times so you can actually land those big damage power bombs.
Reads are also important for ryu in learning to throw fireballs and not get jumped on, but it's just a part of his game rather then the whole thing.
>>343967203
They're both still there, they just didn't add any stage based stuff to any of the other stages.
>>343967203
All three stage KOs are on one stage.
And thanks to story mode, it's obvious that other stages were supposed to have those kinds of transitions but were never implemented.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
>no complaint about no direct input
0/10 shit list.
Even after 100+ hours I'm still god awful at fighting games. Feels like I'm making 0 progress.
what kind of person just copy pastes this shit into a notepad and spams it
what kind of person cares enough about hating a game to post copypasta detracting it every day
a pathetic person, that's what
>>343968304
retard
>>343968563
No, you're the retard here since you were fooled so easily.
>>343968563
>>343968671
You're both retards.
>>343968671
what
>>343968304
>I can't read
LOL
>>343967275
Are there any other well-rounded characters to learn the fundamentals with or is it Ryu or bust?
>>343968419
You need someone to teach you
Wonder why new top players constantly come out of FGC centers like cali, NY, tokyo, etc?
It's because people in those areas start out with the ability to be taught by some of the best.
Fighting games cannot really be learned, they need to be taught. I was shit for 4 years until I randomly started adding people I played in USFIV on steam and asking them questions.
still fun as fuck cause balrog soo good
>>343968875
Guile.
>>343968875
In SFV it's pretty much Ryu. He's so sick though I don't really see why you would want anybody else, parry is the best move in the game and it has infinite skill scaling.
Guile is also good for learning to play charge characters though.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
>waaaa I don't like change!!
Well go find another fighting game that's so perfect if SFV doesn't meet your entitlement, oh wait, nobody else is having issues you prick.
>>343968419
Sounds about right. It takes a long time but eventually something just clicks and it all comes together and you start getting better pretty fast. I think what helped it click for me was analyzing high level matches rather than just casually watching them.
I don't like how V-triggers were implemented into the game. They sound great on paper but we gave up a lot to have them. It's like they took a roster of complete characters, then gutted them and took the removed parts and made them into V-triggers
>>343968875
Nash. Ryu is hardly the well-rounded fundamentals man he's been in just about every other SF game. his main thing in this game is burst damage rather than mid-range zoning/space control.
The lack of an invincible reversal will teach you how to not be a scrub on wakeup as well while still retaining good anti-airs.
>>343969336
>they took a roster of complete characters, then gutted them and took the removed parts and made them into V-triggers
sounds hot
>>343969179
>things change
>80% of the complaints is about stuff that doesn't work or was promised and we never got
>>343969336
They are a great alternative to ultras, and there's only really a couple of characters where they took something they could do before and turned it into vtriggers.
>>343969179
anon gave constructive criticism which leads to future improvement
>>343969336
Does it get any better?
>>343966923
for most characters yes, but there is still use in playing lame.
just dont confuse aggression with constantly pressing something.(even though it can work more often than it should)
>>343969958
Complaining is not constructive criticism.
they still havent fixed any of that? holy fuck
i left right before alex came out
>>343970635
They had to spend all their time making a shitty looking story mode.
>>343967275
>>343968875
>>343969150
FUCK YOU
DONT FUCKING PICK RYU
PICK WHOEVER YOU THINK IS COOL AND HAS A FUN PLAYSTYLE
AND GUESS WHAT I GUARANTEE YOU ITS NOT FUCKING RYU
I AM SO SICK OF EVERY RANKED MATCH BEING VS RYU. U FUCKERS ARENT GETTING PAST EVO POOLS ANYTIME SOON SO STOP TRAINING AND START HAVING FUN, DONT FUCKING PLAY RYU!
god dammit! DONT FUCKING PLAY RYU! ITS FUCKING BORING! THIS STUPID PLAY RYU MEME HAS RUINED THE FUCKING GAME! PLAY WHATEVER CHARACTER YOU WANT JUST BE MINDFUL OF FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPTS. SAME GOD DAMN FUCKING MATCH HAS BEEN IN THE SERIES SINCE DAY ONE AND FUCK I AM SICK OF IT
HOW TO MAKE STREETFIGHTER 6 THE BEST FIGHTING GAME EVER: KILL FUCKING RYU
>>343969336
i dont know enough about the game to comment on how right or wrong you are but you must be proud of this post to say it again
>>343970815
I'm going to play Ken.
>>343970635
Half of those either got fixed or are non-issues.
Most of the rest are minor inconveniences.
>>343970815
anon has point. for years you fuckers always say play ry and ken, and then people complain when 60% of the playerbase is ryu and ken.
play who you like
>>343970994
HEY AT LEAST I CAN LAUGH AT HIS HAIR
>>343970815
>SF
>ever not having Ryu
Might as well make a Mortal Kombat with Scorpion/Sub Zero or a Duke Nukem game starring his unemployed brother Chet Nukem.
>>343971238
mk at least had the balls to kill liu kang for a game
>TFW I got called cancer in the Street Fighter subreddit for expressing regret for purchasing the game and pointing out some issues
Stay classy, FGC. Never criticize the top games and treat all the new/underground ones like they don't exist
>>343970815
I don't even know where to start with this
You simply do not understand street fighter if you think ryu is in any way boring
Baseless assumption, but I think you have never actually learned Ryu and instead are stuck playing some edgy hipster character choice strugging to get out of bronze
Ryu is the most enjoyable to play as, and also the most enjoyable to play against, because of the purity of skill of the character, everything comes down to fundamentals and really out-playing your opponent rather then the varying degrees of gimmicky bullshit that fuels most of the rest of the cast. You would come to understand this if you also started playing Ryu.
Ryu mirror match is a thing of pure beauty the likes of which you can't even comprehend. It's is the best part of street fighter, the most street fighter part of street fighter.
>>343971034
>Matchmaking still sucks
>No way to filter by region (SF4 ok)
>No way to set input lag like GGPO to make long distance matches playable
>alt+tabbing still switches host on PC
>One side rollback
>Rage quitter problem still present
all of this was infuriating
>>343971565
yea if only everyone had shit taste then we could all enjoy the entirety of AnimEvos line up.
>>343971565
You were in the wrong place, friend
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/
>>343971684
STFU GAY RETARD YOURE A BORING FAGGOT. ONLY REASON IVE EVER LOST TO A RYU IS BECAUSE I FELL ASLEEP ZZZzzZZZ god ryu is the worst
>>343971565
>Go to restaurant with the intent to shit talk
>Get kicked out
>>343971710
Keyword "was".
The only of those that are still valid is region filtering, one-sided rollback, and rage quitters still being a fairly large issue. The rest of those were fixed or would not really do much to help, ie. setting input lag.
>>343970815
This guy gets it even if he's sperging out. Pick whoever the fuck you like playing as or think is cool. Street Fighter is hardly the most complex fighter out there so you can learn without using the simplest character if you want to. If you want to learn a well rounded character to start out with to get a good grasp on the game listen to >>343969637 cause Charlie won't teach you how to be a fucking scrub regardless how good people think he is.
>>343971398
That's because Liu Kang isn't the face of MK. At most, he's an Alex or Abel; a canon main character but otherwise not nearly as iconic as other side characters.
>>343971932
He bought the game, he's as much a part of it as anyone else. It's more like going to a restaurant, THEN realizing the food is shit, then shit talking it.
>>343972080
he was the main character of the movie tho
which is all i fucking know about mk and mk is fucking awesome
>>343972302
What you are saying is true, but ask anyone who's played MK in the last 20 years who they remember from the roster, and Sub Zero/Scorpion are going to be the first two, followed by maybe Raiden, Kano Johnny Cage and then Liu Kang.
Hell, to further the point, Ryu isn't even the main character in any SF game (2 was about Guile/Chun chasing Bison, 3 was about Alex finding Gill/Chun finding Urien, 4 was about Abel finding Seth) and yet despite not being plot important he's still the face of the series, for better or worse.
>>343964209
>purchased game at launch
>played for like a month a dropped it
>decided to download it again tonight and check out story mode
>server is down
>won't download
Welp, was thinking about getting back into the game. But leave it to Capcom to know how to drive people away.
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
Most of these are legit issues.
These should be brought up to Capcom
As much as I disliked SF4, for the most part the game functioned.
I don't think there's been a more comprehensive list of issues across the board of SFV. This could actually be a good thing. A list of immediate fixes that needs to be addressed for the most part.Thanks, OP. I'll try to post these up if you don't to Capcom's twitter and email
>>343964209
But 4,000+ entrants for EVO must mean it's a good game right?
>>343973353
Not op, but I hope you do. Capcom being aware of these problems and perhaps try to fix them would only make a better game from it. I like SFV more from a gameplay aspect then 4, but you are completely right when it came to which one was more functional that's for sure.
>>343973531
>that recent interview where daigo points out all these people weren't playing SF before and are basically only in it for the e-sports money
Boy it sure does feel good to know your game's life rests entirely on whether some company decides to shell out money. It's not like half the reason I gave up playing fps online was because of this stuff.
>>343973779
Or...now stay with me here, they....are you still with me?
Maybe theyjust want to experience EVO?
I kind of wish we got more V-Triggers that aren't "Instinct Mode" or other power up states that give new move properties.
>>343964209
There's a lot of good stuff here, but you can tell there's a lot that's either really, REALLY fucking diminutive and petty
>Long maintenances
>many characters have too similiar gameplans
Or just flat opinions
>unimaginative vtriggers
>atrocious hitboxes
>WIP style UI
Good effort, but try sticking to things that can be objectively proven, otherwise it's too easy to discredit one or more of your points, and in the law of the internet, that means your entire argument is void and you're just shitposting
>>343973991
What I wanted before V was announced and everyone was bitching about ultras. Was to have the revenge gauge fund moves that only it can pull off. Like a gauge that only does EX moves.
How is Guile in SFV?
>>343974216
Can't jump in on freedom
>>343974098
>many characters have too similiar gameplans
>petty
And this is following the game where every single style worked, and even shotos felt different from each other while still being shotos.
>>343970550
>Complaining is not constructive criticism.
Dumbest shit I've read on the Internet today. Congrats anon. You get a star.
>>343974338
>even shotos felt different
Literally one of IV's biggest complaints was the amount of Shotos exactly because they all felt too similar.
>>343974476
Well, by definition, it's not. You can complain about something and say absolutely nothing of value to the creator. It's not hard.
Not saying complaints can't be constructive criticism, just saying it's not hard to complain and say nothing
>>343974551
Most of the complaints about shotos were from people looking at the game from the outside.
SFIV
>Ryu
>zoning and general street fightery
>Ken
>go in, right now
>Akuma, setups
SFV
>Ryu
>go in
>Ken
>go in
>>343974216
About as good as he was in 4. His normal flash kicks don't have hit iframes but his pokes outclass just about anyone who isn't Birdie or Cammy and his normals in general are great. He has some decent hit confirms and damage and with vtrigger he can do some stupid shit and essentially get free pressure for 3+ straight seconds. His Boom and Vskill make him the best zoner in the game, though that isn't saying much considering the only other person with a good fireball in this game is Nash.
>>343974476
>I don't know what constructive criticism entails
Keep the star. You deserve it a lot more.
>>343964209
https://www.change.org/p/yoshinori-ono-capcom-give-juri-an-alternate-color-reverting-the-changes-done-to-her-default-outfit-in-sfv?recruiter=34108446&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
It's me or Ibuki is low tier in the game?
>>343974216
He's fine but don't expect to play guile.
>>343974894
Who cares, she's just no damn fun. Why is she so fucking slow.
>>343974828
>change.org
You can't get cancer any faster anon, holy shit just off yourself already.
>>343974894
It's you. Her real damage comes from resets and bomb mixups.
>>343974998
Not the same anon, but old habits die hard. She's got interesting tools now, but the flow isn't the same for me.
Balrog on the other hand....He just works.
>>343974894
Her and Juri appear to be a bit weak
Rog and Urien seem pretty solid
>>343970815
Ryu is the only fun character in the game though. I'd be playing akuma if he were in.
>>343975807
You know what? FUCK Mike Ross for calling Birdie boring.
Alright, faggots.
>Your main
>Your least favorite part of your main
>Your least favorite matchup
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Birdie
Lack of hit confirms. I would easily give up a little damage or range on his st mk for his st jab to combo into itself.
Cammy
I hate that she can just go nuts on Birdie on his wakeup and not get punished or interrupted for shit unless I have CA but damn if those matches don't get my blood pumping.
>>343976065
Yeah, Birdie is fun as hell. And he hits like a truck. All of his CCs usually result in 400+ damage and even more if he's in vtrigger.
I've been contemplating and struggling to decide if I should get this game for over a week now. Everything I hear about it is mixed. But it's not like IV is alive anymore. GG was and is dead as fuck on PC, and MKX isn't fun playing with randoms.
Do I get it? Do I not get it?
>>343976425
g2a has it for just over $30.
It's pretty solid but has its problems. All it comes down to is whether you think it's worth $30 or not.
>>343970815
Ryu is cool and has fun playstyle, go fuck yourself. I bet you haven't even seen Daigo's Ryu
>>343973353
I'll post this via twitter and email, but I want some opinions before I make this since I want it to be as objective/ based on majority of opinion as possible.
Which of these problems op posted are bullshit?
>>343976065
>Your main
Birdie
>Your least favorite part of your main
Lack of real wake up options. Wake Up Bullhorn is unreliable unless in EX.
>Your least favorite matchup
Nash
>Your favorite part of that matchup
FUCKING STAY OUT YOU FUCK THESE BUTTONS ARE JUST TOO GOOD.
![4zCaHfc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QrLFJ5M.jpg "4zCaHfc[1].jpg")
>>343964209
works for me bro RTSD
>>343976617
I'm thinking I might do it. There's no way it could get any worse than it is now. I've heard it works better online and I have to imagine they'll improve most of what's wrong with it.
>>343975018
sign it, it will make your membership bigger.
>>343976392
>Your main
Laura
>Your least favorite part of your main
Her shit neutral
>Your least favorite matchup
Characters with invincible reversals
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Free Crush Counter when I'm not being retarded
is this game finally worth getting yet
>>343978107
More than, if you actually play fighting games.
>>343978168
Maybe it's just me but I play this game and it just feels like it's not finished content wise and I am not talking juri and urine, it feels like it's missing...something else, it doesn't feel complete, I have never had this feeling about a game before either.
>>343976392
>Main
Balrog
>Your least favorite part of your main
WHAT THE FUCK CAN I DO ON WAKE UP??/still no cross up
>Your least favorite matchup
Chun li
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Literally nothing fuck that bitch
>>343968875
ken has all the tools ryu has except for the parry
both ryu and ken are strong. ken is more offense-orientated while ryu is more defensive.
>>343976392
Sure.
>Your main
Zangief
>Your least favorite part of your main
Gimped moveset, is shat on by a lot of the cast
>Your least favorite matchup
Dhalsim
>Your favorite part of that matchup
The satisfaction of breaking out of his zoning hell and whooping his ass. Happens rarely though.
![Ryu_(CFA)[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/qNS5GL3.png "Ryu_(CFA)[1].png")
>>343976392
>Your main
Ryu
>Your least favorite part of your main
he's pretty much perfect desu
>Your least favorite matchup
dhalsim. i just can't deal with the constant switching between full-screen zoning and teleport crussup mixups.
>Your favorite part of that matchup
correctly predicting teleports and anti-airing him right when he appears
>>343980302
It must feel nice to have your main be the best character in the game. I've tried to get into Ryu but shotos just aren't very interesting to play.
Bojack skin mod for Balrog when?
What the fuck was Capcom thinking when they made it so you can only throw your kunai in air while jumping forward? I have no fucking idea why they're removing shit like that from characters. Why remove staple moves from characters (ibuki's neckbreak, bison's psycho crusher etc)? Why change charge characters into motion characters? Why not have 2 selectable CAs? There's so many weird design choices in this game man. I think the gameplay is pretty solid though.
>>343982020
>What the fuck was Capcom thinking when they made it so you can only throw your kunai in air while jumping forward?
So people couldn't be dickheads.
I guarantee if Akuma showed up in the game he wouldn't be able to air fireball unless he jumped forward.
>>343981326
this is my first street fighter, i started with ryu because people say start with ryu to learn the game. i dont regret it, whenever i try out another character i immediately miss some of ryus tools that my new character doesnt have.
>invincible reversal DP
>super good anti air normals
>generally good normals for most situations
>decent projectile
>ambiguous crossup on jump-in that combos into heavy damage
for example, i enjoy playing balrog because i like his combos and juggling moves, and his normals are great too. but his anti-airs suck ass and the lack of DP makes getting knocked down super frustrating, especially against shit like laura.
i really like ryus defensive and reactionary "let them come, then punish their approach" gameplay. what other characters fit this style? i tried dhalsim but i really hate his normals. maybe guile is good for this playstyle?
>>343982775
>but his anti-airs suck ass
Uh, no.
>>343982775
With Balrog, ST MP is an amazing anti-air, and CR HP is also a good one too. The only thing Balrog is missing is a weak wakeup game and no cross ups. He's a solid character in this game though and I think you should experiment with him more.
>>343982020
Why would you need that if you have fullscreen on the ground kunai?
Being able to jump back and kunai is worthless
how do karins moves work
i just go vtrigger and mash until i do the long attacks
>3s players complain about sf4 so they went back to 3s
>Sf4 players complain about sfv but refuse to go back
Why? Noone is forcing you to play
>>343983962
Jump back projectile is a good option to do if you need to be defensive. Capcom is doing their best to snuff out defensive play in this game though so whatever.
>>343983593
>no cross ups
Because his high low game is really strong.
>>343984307
>Because his high low game is really strong.
nigga please I love Balrog but you can spot those overheads coming a mile away
>>343984140
Cause sf4 only thrived through CPT
>>343984728
Vskill into cr.lk is your low option
>>343984769
You got that backwards. CPT only became a thing because SF4 got so popular.
>>343984985
If it's so popular what is stopping sfv haters to go back and play it
>>343983019
>>343983593
i know that he has reliable anti airs, but they simply aren't punishing enough.
with ryu, you AA with a DP, you deal a ton of damage and your opponent gets knocked down.
you AA with axe kick, your opponent gets knocked down right in front of you.
with balrog, all your AA options just reset the enemy in front of you. no big damage, no knockdown. that's what i dont like.
>>343985169
Who says they aren't?
>>343984728
>dash over head
>dash sweep
>dash fake grab
>dash fake over head
>dash fake sweep
>>343976392
>Main
Cammy
>Least favorite thing about them
Nothing really, she can get zoned out pretty hard sometimes I guess
>Least favorite match up
Ken. He can do what I do but scarier because he has tech and better confirms
>Favorite part of the match up
If I scare him enough he'll stop being cancer, and most Kens panic DP, so I get all that Crush Counter damage
>>343985189
That's because you're a newbie. Considering Balrog's buttons and high/low game, a reset is far more beneficial than a soft knockdown.
>>343978591
Because it's not.
>>343985289
not that guy but am I just bad or is the dash punch cancel-into-turn window very small?
Will Capcom ever release a Street Fighter that isn't garbage at first
>>343986031
You're just bad
>>343986078
SFIV
>>343986162
Did you forget about Sagat and Seth?
>>343986243
Lots of game's have OP characters. But SFIV was the only SF that didn't have shit that was straight up broken.
>>343986031
Outside of a few combos, all of fighting game's special/super/etc cancels are mash as fast as you can.
>mfw SF5 is actually the perfection the series has been striving for since the glory days of SF2
>>343986386
SFV doesnt have op characters.
SFIV is the weakest mainline sf game.
>>343986243
St o.sagat and guile
Sf3 chun and ken
Sf4 sagat
Ssf4 fei and cammy
AE yum
Ae2012 eroo
Ultra eroo
Sfv too
Wtf do i do against grabs. How do you tech them properly
>>343986609
>ST guile
>broken
>>343976392
>Your main
Ken, Ryu, learning Alex
>Your least favorite part of your main
lives and dies by his hit confirms (Ken)
>Your least favorite matchup
Ryu
>Your favorite part of that matchup
When I make then afraid to jump, baiting uppercuts
>>343986651
Press grab at the same your opponent grabs. You have to be a demi-god to do it on reaction in Street Fighter so most of the time you'll have to predict it.
>>343986651
you have to read the situation and your opponent and assume youre opponent would want to grab or you would.
>Your main
Gief
>Your least favorite part of your main
Nothin
>Your least favorite matchup
Mika
>Your favorite part of that matchup
She has a just as shit wake up game so I can bully her too with 50/50s
>>343986031
PRBalrog changed the V-skill into a specific button for Balrog, and yeah you have to cancel as fast and you do it.
>>343986651
prediction
it comes with experience
>>343986985
Just out of curiosity if you play ranked, what rank are you?
>>343986570
The online worked in IV on day 1
IV didn't have 8 frames of lag.
IV had realistic loading times
IV could deal with rage quitters
The original point was about the game being broken, not balance.
>>343987146
the game isnt broken.
Vanilla sfiv had shit netcode day one.
only downside is lag but Id rather that then op chars.
Loadtimes are relative.
Points dont matter
>>343987146
>The online worked in IV on day 1
Holy shit, what the fuck ever, dude. The entirety of SF4 netcode was cancer and it didn't start becoming decent until Super and didn't get good until AE2012.
>>343986919
>>343986943
>>343987113
So it's all mindgames. Thanks guys i'll work on my predictions
>>343987146
Lies
>>343987125
I don't i just play with friends and locals. Sorry. Can't afford pS+
>>343987713
No problem.
>>343987563
generally you dont plan to tech. you plan to throw your opponent, a tech just happens when your opponend planned to do the same.
the only situation where you plan to tech is when you're knocked down and expect your opponent to go for a meaty throw. then you press throw on wakeup with the intention of teching their throw.
everyone is saying ryu can do some stupid damage but I haven't seen it yet, what's everyone blustering about
>>343987805
Have you not seen or played SFV Ryu? The fucker hits like a goddamn tank. That's one of the main reasons why I main him.
>>343987805
st.mp -> cr.hp -> h.shoryuken / h.tatsu
works after jump-in, works after crush counter st.hk. easy to confirm into, easy as fuck to execute.
>>343987805
750 damage cc vtrigger CA combos are fucking stupid
>>343988045
His target combo does a ton of damage as well.
>>343987805
standing mp into crouching hp into dp.
forward hp into crouching hp into dp
both those combos can go into super or replace dp with ex tatsu into ex dp into corner. Lots of damage.
Not counting crush counter combos, and back hk combos.
>>343988128
Rog can do 500 with only two bars of meter and vtrigger without rap
And 900 damage with vtrigger and tap
And 1150 damage with tap vtrigger and CA
>>343976392
>Your main
Guile
>Your least favorite part of your main
People crouching under my backfist
>Your least favorite matchup
Ken
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Punishing blocked dp with crush counter launch combo. so satisfying
>>343988278
That takes more effort than Ryu's bullshit.
>>343988278
>And 900 damage with vtrigger and tap
>And 1150 damage with tap vtrigger and CA
I don't believe you
>>343988172
no, his target combo is weak.
st.mp xx st.hp xx st.hk always does much less damage than st.mp -> cr.hp xx h.shoryuken, and they are both available in the exact same situation. plus the final st.hk whiffs on crouching opponents, leaving you exposed.
the combo i described doesnt whiff on crouching opponents, and can be canceled into hadoken instead of shoryuken if blocked, leaving you much more safe.
the target combo is useful for beginners who havent yet learned the real one. other than that, it doesnt really have a use.
>>343988498
he's mememing. you CAN do that much but you have to charge the TAP for 15 seconds
>>343988278
>>343988498
You have to charge TAP for a crazy amount of time in one match to pull that damage off. That is almost impossible to pull off unless you're playing against the worst SF player alive or someone who is AFK.
>>343988498
http://youtu.be/SJpNXNLRyLY
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
For once a list of complaints that isn't from that copy pasta. I love SFV and I agree with almost everything on this list. It makes me sad thinking SFV could've been as polished as GG Xrd Revelator. I love their lobby and money system.
>>343988278
Too bad those combos are impractical as all hell and require some execution. Ryu shits easy damage no matter what he does.
>>343988695
what is going on here im a retard at sf
>>343988950
something that isn't possible.
>>343988405
>>343988498
>>343988676
>>343988860
The tap ones are impractical sure but the two meter one isn't
>>343988996
It's possible just not probable
>>343989040
For what Balrog does with 2 meters and vtrigger Ryu can almost do with nothing but a CC.
>press jab as boxer
>Get lucky hit
>Vtrigger into 450 damage combo without using CA
We /necalli/ now
>>343989167
Video of ryu's 500 damage meterless combo?
>Rage quitter problem still present
>You have to save replays before watching them
>Training doesn't save your settings
>Battle lounge doesn't save settings
>badly designed UI - hard to navigate and counterintuitive
This, plus the ridiculous loading times, it's a real dealbreaker. Or just general time spent in menus out of battle. This game, I hit up training mode, I have to go through 5 minutes of loading screens and THEN I have to go through every menu option, to make the dummy do what I want, then I activate match search, then I get to practice my setup like two times, then it's ANOTHER FIGHT COMING MY WAY, loading screen, looking at the characters (and hope to god I didn't forget to select the character I actually wanted to play beforehand), more loading screen, play my match - have my opponent ragequit on me (at least I didn't have to stomach the ridiculously long result screens this time around), so I get another loading screen, then I'm back to training mode - not before taking another look at the character select staredown, why the fuck - and even after playing my match I have to retune the fucking dummy to do the reversals because that doesn't even stay in place after a match? What is this shit? And then the game disconnects me randomly, and I get to repeat the entire procedure and the training mode settings are back to default.
I'm trying so hard to like this, I like the gameplay itself when I'm actually having a match, but man. Imagine if this wasn't just a hobby, if you were one of those unlucky souls who make a living with this shit, and they now have to play this shit show 24/7 because that's the only game people play even though it's a fucking mess, and you have to go through these sloggy weird menus and loading sequences and terrible optimization and missing quality-of-life features that have been the standard for decades now, man I'd hate my life. If this game didn't say Street Fighter V on the tin, nobody would fucking touch it.
Sfv is bad game
>>343988950
>>343988996
>>343989123
if you charge TAP forever it gets ridiculously strong
but you have to hold down two buttons for like a minute if you want it to go up to 500 damage
>>343988695
how the fuck are you doing doing two of those in a row for the full charge damage?
>>343989828
Hold 6 buttons
Release two
Release two
Release two
>>343989414
Actually I fucked up. It's more like 350 meterless. It's only close to that if he spends a bar.
>>343989924
that's completely impractical
>gameplay solid as fuck
>can play online against others
literally nothing else matters, its just icing on the cake
>>343990192
Us /offline only/bros amirite
>>343990086
Oh really
Best I can pull with Balrog is 477 off c.hp-hk screw smash-vtrigger-l.dash punch-vtrigger punch x4-CA
I'm still learning but I think that's not bad, eh?
>>343976392
Chun Li
No meterless reversal, my meter is required in general
Ryu and Necalli. They do retarded amounts of damage
I fight Ryu himself. THE fighting game character. I gues I out poke Necalli?
>>343990698
St.hk vt cr.hp xx hk up punch ex lower f.p vskill punch ex straight f.p f.p f.k f.k
Gives same damage with one bar less spent
SFV is a better base game than IV so in a couple years it should be fantastic.
>>343991163
Nope. I disliked USF4 but I think it's better than SFV in it's current state.
>>343991326
>base game
pls read
>still no mod of gyaru jap pre order skin
>>343991404
I still think USF4 is better
>>343991487
Who cares? That's not what he was talking about.
>>343991487
It had more characters, that's it.
>>343991738
Oh he meant vanilla sf4
>>343976392
>>Your main
Laura
>>Your least favorite part of your main
shit neutral and kinda lame overhead
>>Your least favorite matchup
chun-li, she just has a better button and an answer for anything
>>Your favorite part of that matchup
when I find a way in
>>343991163
I do like SFV more than SF4, but I don't know.
I feel like there is just less to explore with it.
>>343976392
>Your main
Rashid
>Your least favorite part of your main
real bad damage in pretty much every situation
>Your least favorite matchup
Chun Li and her retarded buttons
>Your favorite part of that matchup
crush countering a whiffed EX bird kick with s.hk from what feels like the other end of the screen is pretty damn satisfying
>>343988128
Ryu doesn't do that much damage though, max is around 540 if he is already in trigger with denjin hadoken.
>>343971878
you sound like a edgy teen
>>343992870
His average combo is 300 damage. Pack that on top of any damage the opponent takes from fireballs and it's pretty high. And that's not even taking into account his vtrigger or CA.
>>343992870
He does amazing damage considering you can get between 200-300 damage off of extremely basic and easy confirms.
>>343993132
Not to mention crazy stun too.
So is this worth getting for 30 dollars?
Can you get banned for that one round survival thing?
>>343964209
>>343964235
>>343964345
>>343964450
dinput and server maintenance bullshit are my biggest complaints
also why isn't there an option to choose your character when you finally do get a match with someone? like in sf4?
favorite character thing is fine, but please, at least let it be an option
>>343964209
I want them to focus on 8f lag and the lobbies first and foremost.
>>343993651
maybe wait a bit so they can fix it up
if you're starving for a fighting game you can get it, it's serviceable
I haven't heard of anyone getting banned for the one round survival thing, but who knows
>>343990937
>that costume
She looks like she owns a brothel.
It's sad to that SF is only being held up by it's large player base at this point, all the things listed are important but the most important thing is a good amount of competition that grows the meta and continues interest throughout a games life. Nobody is really happy with sf5 but nobody want's to jump ship and slip into obscurity with a game that simply doesn't have the number of players it needs. And this goes double for high level players, to be competitive past a certain level you can't split your time spent across multiple games so your locked in.
Its perfect. The only way it could possibly be more perfect is withRufus
>>343994572
>that feel when it ends up like Ultra and it gets to the point where one character is so broken that people cheer when the character loses
MY UTOPIAAAAAAUUUUUGGH
>>343976392
>Your MainRASHIDOOOOOOOOOOO
>Your least favorite part of your main
Not a lot of safe options and a sub-par projectile
>Your least favorite matchup
Karin or Ryu
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Beating a top tier character with mid low is always a good feeling
>>343976392
>Your main
Charlie
>Your least favorite part of your main
He's screwed if put into a corner unless you have your V-Trigger. There's nothing he can do at that point especially to R.Mika mains.
>Your least favorite matchup
R.Mika and her fucking guessing games
>Your favorite part of that match-up
When I accurately predict what she's gonna do and punish her for it. That's rare for me, though.
>>343995284
I never ran into too much ridiculousness against Rolento. Elena though, holy fucking shit, I'm gonna be permanently triggered if they bring that slut back
>>343995448
>maining Nothing Personnel Kid: The Character
heh
>>343976392
Karin
Shit AA
Ken
Good blockchains make me very happy.
>>343995539
I fucking hate edgy they made him, but I adapted to his play style and it just stuck. Plus, he's the only character I managed to beat Survival mode on hard with, so there's that. If it makes you feel any better, I have Cammy as a secondary.
Urien is the next character right?
>>343995508
I was moreso referencing EVO when Nemo was in Top 8
>>343965545
light is -2, medium and ex are -7
>>343995812
At least he's got a reason for the edge. I'd be pretty edgy if I believed in FREEDOM and got betrayed just in time to have Bison throw me off a cliff, then get revived as a literal Frankenstein zombie just to kill Bison for some weird Russian chick.
>>343995864
Capcom: Unfortunately, Juri and Gil are not ready for release yet. However, we here at Capcom didn't want to disappoint you guys.
We decided to release Decapre and Ingrid as the next DLC characters for the August update. Look foreword to Urien and Juri at the end of September.
Have they done anything meaningful about the rage quitting yet? What about the battle lounge connection quality? me and a friend had 5 bar connection on sf4 but only 2 bar on sfv.
>>343996313
Is this a joke?
>>343995952I hate how they fucked him over in the ending of the story. He got revived only to die again and be useless throughout all of his revival.
>>343976392
>Your main
Laura
>Your least favorite part of your main
She's Karin, but shit. Bad buttons, bad vtrigger, no reversal.
>Your least favorite matchup
Anything with a reversal.
>Your favorite part of that matchup
Reading the reversal and doing 300 damage into a right-left that does another 300 damage.
>daigo thinks many players will drop it in the next year
>infiltration and tokido think it's too simple
>the dreamhack champ phenom doesn't have much fun with it
The only reason why it's still played is the CPT money. Everyone and their mother know 3rd strike and even USFIV are better than this crap that is SFV.
>>343996492
Nash drained Bison's super psycho power. They literally used the same effects and theme for Nash achieving inner peace and Ryu using the power of nothingness.
>>343996720
What else are they going to play though? Its not like IV is coming back. GG and Tekken 7 are the only options and I have to imagine 2D skills don't translate to Tekken very great and for some reason lots of people don't like anime fighters even though GG is fantastic.
>>343996720
So not only are you still living in November, but you looked into the future to only believe Daigo "Gets Bodied All the Time" Umehara and Phenom "Can only Win in Europe"?
>>343980302
You could just standing jab him out of his teleports.
>>343996897
>GG and Tekken are the only options
what happened to KOF XIV
