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Would you resub if Blizzard launched legacy vanilla servers?
>>343958390
Yes
only quit nos because of fear of it being shut down
which it fucking did
>>343958390
No. Because I don't live in the past.
>>343958390
No I know vanilla sucked.
I only played retail WoW for like 2 weeks in Cata, so yeah I'd give it a shot.
I played on Nos for a week or two and I could at least see the appeal.
>>343958390
The problem isn't the content, the problem is the community. I could easily tolerate or even enjoy the dumbed-down mechanics Cata had if the Vanilla/BC community came back.
I don't know how much dumber it is now though
No, TBC or Wrath servers I'd play.
>>343958464
>No. Because I don't live in the past.
I came here to say this.
>>343958695
That's not the problem. A lot of those same people are still there. The problem is Blizzard gives players literally zero reason to group up with each other. Quests are laughably easy to the point where you will never die and you can two-shot most mobs. You can forego questing altogether and just grind the dungeon finder in heirloom gear and hit level 100 in less than a week. Dungeons from 1-90 take 5 minutes because all groups curbstomp everything and race through it as quickly as possible. Go queue as a DPS and take note of how many mobs the tank pulls, and the healer can just stand there doing literally nothing and still not wipe.
Then go play on a vanilla server as a tank and try to pull aggro from more than 3 enemies at a time and see what happens. Fuck Blizzard. They ruined the game.
>>343958390
Because i'm already subbed and i preordered legion
>>343959186
Wipes still happen, it takes way longer than a week to hit level 100, especially if you have a life. I will admit questing is boring with little reward but they're trying to fix that with legion.
I don't think you ver liked WoW to begin with. You're just some faggot.
>>343959480
>but they're trying to fix that with legion.
I'll believe it when I see it. They need to revamp the entire levelling experience from 1-80 at least because it's all fucked up right now. Seems like way too much effort for Blizzard to put in.
>>343959480
>showing off a 705 ilvl
lmao
>>343960083
I'm not good at rogue arena. I've only won once.
>>343959480
>That ugly ass outline on the troll
When did they do this? It's like they're trying to make it look like a game for kids under 10.
Vanilla was awful. Bags filled with soul gems, leveling was fucked with available quests ending before you can move on to new areas like Tanaris. Elementals were immune to spells of their element, making my fire mage worthless, tanking was an enormous pain in the ass with idiots over-nuking, mana a complete pain in the ass to manage, having to drink after every single encounter.
I miss the weather system, that's all.
>>343960875
>These are the people we share a board with
Maybe Burning Crusade but Vanilla was actually garbage.
>>343960992
>Obscene tedium is fun
It's like how attuning yourself to the planes in EQ was fun. Fuck that.
I'd love to go back, but you just know people won't be nearly as social as they used to be. Have you played old school runescape?
>>343959480
I've been playing the Legion beta and the questing is still boring.
>Nostalrius
>We'll release the source code if anything ever happens to us guys, don't worry!
>O-Oh no, a C&D! Instead of ignoring it like every other private server we're going to shut it down like good boys!
>We won't be releasing the source code after all, Blizzard might give us a job!
>B-Blizzard stopped contacting us and won't return our calls, but we're still not releasing the source code!
>It wasn't our plan all along to try and get hired by Blizzard! Honest!
>>343960992
Vanilla sucked ass and was filled with retarded design, not bad design, but retarded.
Only things you faggot miss are social interaction and I would love an ideal world where none of you are present ever again.
>>343961270
I can't fucking believe how cucked they got.
>if i play vanilla now then its going to be like 10 years ago
you will never beat ragnaros for the first time ever again after farming all that fire resi shit for the thorium brotherhood. stop being a delusional nostalgia fag.
>>343958464
I bet you play snes/gen/ps1 games, don't you?
>>343959480
>17 bindings
Its like Blizzard want the game to be played by two fingered people.
>>343961207
i like osrs
its comfy and as much as i used to play rs back in the day i actually didnt really dig into the content all that much
so when i play oldschool its nostalgia mixed with the wonder of discovery too
like i never did godwars or anything back then, focused on hunter last time i played and got to like 85, makin okay money
that being said i have to be in the mood for it. like i probably only play it for a fortnight at a time if that. then have a big break
>>343958390
Without a doubt. I miss BWL
>>343961662
He just said he didn't live in the past. Are you retarded?
>>343961429
That's literally what I did on Nost and it was fucking awesome.
That said though the things I enjoyed most about vanilla was how the game naturally made players band together. One of my best friends is some guy I started a party with in Redridge for that orc warlord bounty quest.
>>343958390
Gladly.
>>343958464
>>343958931
>Dont live in the past
>Still posts in /v/
>>343958390
I never had a sub and never will.
Just rereleasing it 1 on 1 is stupid. They should at least use the new models, fix the bugs and try to balance the classes better.
>>343962628
what's the future?
>>343958390
I'll resub for Legion.
I won't resub for content I already played too much and got bored of 10 years ago.
>>343958390
No. I played a trial for maybe an hour as a dark elf hunter. The first quest I got was "bring me 20 snargbear claws" or some other fetch quest in the area where their holy tree stood
>>343958390
No, the game is fundamentally shit.
>>343963042
and you couldn't even do that? rofl
>>343962924
A place where everything is cool.
if there was vanilla servers would you guys prefer the old character models, or the new ones?
>>343963654
Make it a toggle.Also add transmog.
>>343958390
Nope. I will resub for Legion tho
>>343961207
Nost was pretty fucking social.
Probably less than vanilla, but really social.
>>343963539
I did do that, but it was so boring and not a very good way to convince pay for a monthly sub
>>343963934
It was really elitist and filled with memes. Truly the vanilla experience.
>>343964476
It's the leveling up concept and getting stronger with the more time you put in. That's the appeal.
A level 100 might come into your zone and kill you while you're lvl 20. Next thing you know you're lvl 100 and doing the same thing to their faction.
Prot Warriors and Prot Paladins are literally gods and it feels awesome when no one can kill you.
>>343958390
I might actually try WoW. My uncle tried to get me into it at one point but it just wasn't what I thought it was. Also, coming into it with all the shit already fucking there, just ten years of content, was pretty jarring.
I might give it a spin on a vanilla server.
>>343964529
Vanilla wow was filled with elitist everquest players and normies as well. Nothing has changed.
>>343963934
Nost was really social, I remember grouping up on there a lot more than I did in retail even in Vanilla, but that's probably just because of how many people were on a single server in Nost.
The mechanics of Vanilla really does bring out the community though.
>>343964638
Sure. But I'm not a fan of "it gets better 20+ hours in", unless it's for a series i appreciate beforehand. WoW was not such a series
>>343958390
I'd love a progression server where you have six months of vanilla, six months of TBC and so on.
>>343958390
Huh, I've never actually seen WoW lore before. That Orc description is pretty baller.
>>343964770
That's what I tried to imply.
>paying for a game you already own, without content patches
>>343960875
>Elementals were immune to spells of their element
Why the fuck wouldn't they be? Why would you try to burn something that's made of fire?
>>343964938
My bad, i have a habit of seeing sarcastic comments in threads such as this but this time i was wrong.
>>343964529
Naw, everyone knew about nost and people who never played wow were dropping by everyday. People got used to it and helped them, because a server with 5~7k people feels much greater than one with 2 or 3.
Want to see a elitist server? go to kronos.
>>343958390
probably play it for a month and then stop
>>343964992
I get the logic, but it's incredibly impractical depending on your class and spec.
whatever happened to vanilla
>>343964992
Because one of the entire end game raids was fire enemies, and some of the classes do mostly fire damage.
Means certain DPS classes/specs just don't work for an entire raid tier.
>>343965303
The Burning Crusade happened.
>>343965303
The game updated to The Burning Crusade, you dingus,
>>343962924
>>343965070
>Want to see a elitist server? go to kronos.
I made a char during 8x on kronos 1, first it was desolated people just logged for raids, then when Nostalrius went down it was flooded and went down constantly. Now it's back to square one.
>>343963859
Even though things like transmog, new models, and other things would be really nice to have it's a really slippery slope. First they add the new models and transmog, then remove training/leveling up weapon skills, then suddenly before you know it mounts are available at level 20 and cheap as fuck, quest markers are put into the UI, and there are cash shop and recruit a friend mounts in game.
>>343965313
That's just a shitty decision on Blizzard's part, from the sound of it. They couldn't make it something other than fire? Did they not think about this at all?
Y e s
I'd sub for the first time, though I've played a lot of it on friends accounts.
More for the fresh start though, than because of it being vanilla. I've always wanted to sub, but had nobody to do it with. I can force some other noob to be my friend if everyone is starting over.
>>343964861
Maybe it isnt the game for you, but MMOs very point is this grind. it doenst get better 20 hours in. It stays the same or even gets worse.
Pretty much every mmo rpg over the last 8 years did the mistake of not putting a huge grind wall in the middle. You reach maximum level, kill one of the 2 only challenging bosses and that is it. A mmo, "finished" in 30 days.
With wow you had always something to grind, levels early on, consumables for raiding in the middle, and finally, end game gear very, VERY later on.
>>343958390
This is where Blizz is leaving money on the table. Far less people would unsub between content patches if they could fuck off to a legacy server with their bros when there's nothing to do on live.
If it had the option to have the updated graphics, sure.
>>343965448
Just throw in transmog, it's the best thing added to WoW since release.
>>343965303
Blizzard changed the game to appeal to newcomers with new features and design philosophy changes as old team members left and new people were put to work on whatever they were doing next. They kept doing this for 12 years.
I mean for real, I don't think anybody played an MMO before WoW. The drastic changes didn't surprise me at all but everybody else seems caught off-guard.
>>343959480
>Illidanstr
jesus christ, delete it
>>343965620
Someone post the pic of the expected demon hunter spawn area on legion and all the illidan clones.
who needs it if its not for free?
>>343958390
I would, I had a lot of fun playing Nost, it being legal with less bugs and less risk of getting shut down suddenly would be great. I didn't even play that much of Nost compared to other people, I played really casually and only had a character in the mid 40's, and a few other characters between 5-30, but I still enjoyed it.
Also considering how many people only played after Cata, it would still be a new experience for all those people. If they did add legacy servers it would probably be played by more than just nostalgiafags, people who never played and only heard people talking about Vanilla WoW might try it out as well, which is a huge opportunity for Blizzard.
>>343965819
is this it?
>>343965559
I could see it in a TBC legacy server, but ethereals weren't really a thing in vanilla. Plus it wasn't that hard to have a level appropriate matching set in vanilla if you were persistent. TBC was famous for clown suits for a reason.
>>343958464
/thread
>>343966079
they could always replace the ethereal with some kind of mage or something
>>343958390
Blizzard would make 2k people server and fuck it all. Nost was arguably better than vanilla just because a fuckton of people make the world actually fell alive.
A server with less than 6k people online at any given time, and i might as well stay on kronos.
>>343966020
>shadowhegeheg
>>343958390
Absolutely not, but I'd play Nostalrius if it ever went back up.
nope.
That is incredibly bad that they do not let people have the freedom to play private servers
the only good wow was oldschool and tbc
everything else was shit
fuck resubbing
they should be paying me
>>343966020
ahh, yes, it is SW inn, not the class start point. I didnt remember that.
>>343966020
I'm going to name my DH Deepeewonder.
>>343958390
I don't know.
I played on K1, K2, and Nos. All of them have guilds that are full of favortism and cliques.
If I do, it'll probably be a rogue strictly for PVP.
>>343958464
>No. Because I don't live in the past.
But if you lived in the past, you would have official servers still running vanilla
>>343961270
>spend an hour in the barrens camping a stupid fucking boarman for a stupid fucking quest because there's 50 other players trying to kill him
>multiple lvl 60s fighting in hillsbrad 24/7, can't level for 5 minutes without getting ganked
>go to ashenvale to quest; end up getting in random pvp battles for an hour
>try to do a dungeon with a questionable group and get our asses handed to us
Fuck. I want Nostalrius to come back :(
>>343958390
yes, only if it would be progressive legacy content. im tired of getting cucked by blizz by buying their wow expacs, legion will be the first I dont buy
had a blast on nost
>>343959186
So I take it you're that guy that plays to like 90 and then gets bored.
>>343958464
So what you're saying is the latest release of a game is always better than previous releases?
And people say tripfags are retarded.
>>343958390
Yes, I never played vanilla on retail.
Wrath baby here.
Tried nostalrius, fell in love. now i miss it.
Can't play retail anymore, it's just boring.
>>343966492
no
way to miss the point entirely
lolno vanilla a shit.
it's just nostalgia fags blabbing on about how great it is.
>>343966492
Corporations always defend their product whether it is good or bad
>>343965313
>>343964992
molten core was a mistake. Also why make them super resistant to fire but no bonus damage from frost?
>>343961920
What did he mean by this?Seriously, i don't know.
>>343958390
No, Need a WOW reset.
>>343966616>>343964992
>>343965313
Fuck all of you.
With this type of stuff it makes the game unpredictable and always changing
Fuck your casual bitch asses
>>343958464
>being a try hard "realist" that wanted to be first post best post.
Off yourself m8
>>343959186
Are you a faggot that played Vanilla?
People rarely grouped while grinding/leveling in vanilla. Killing mobs was not hard, but mindless and just took longer. You didn't have a rotation you literally spammed maybe one skill.
Who cares if leveling is easier for veterans that have done it multiple times.
> Dungeons from 1-90 take 5 minutes because all groups curbstomp everything and race through it as quickly as possible.
No, they take about ~15 minutes at least. I would I just did it. The dungeons get actually mildly challenging around Cata/MoP.
>>343964529
fucking loved it.
World chat was the funniest shit.
I remember some people tricking a kid to google futanari.
Fucking kek.
>>343966020
>rogue of our guild super proud of finally getting his dual blades of azeroth
>now every retard has them
>>343966492
No he meant he wants a reset in the WOW universe since the lore is completely fucked ever since Catalyscm was released.
>>343959480
>trade chat being trade chat
Man, it brings back the memories.
>>343966771
uh if you had more then 2 enemies that were on you you died unless you were a healer or a mage
you never played vanilla
Nothing but the whole game was a group fest
The game now a days is so boring because you have no chance to die and you always win no matter what
>>343965313
That's why they made Arcane and Frost mages but no one ever used them.
>>343966924
Trade chat is the one thing that hasn't changed.
>>343966603
lolno neo-wow is shit
it is just the same moves over and over again without not even dying
>tfw Warcraft Universalis
>>343965303
They introduced expansions. The greatest problem with them was that they shuttled everyone to the max level endgame. Even in BC they had that mindset that everyone should be experiencing the current content, this betrayed one of the greatest parts of classic - that no matter what level you were, you were experiencing the content.
They added a mountain of shortcuts over the years, until now where the content is deprived because the developers can't create enough content to meet the standard they have set by having so many shortcuts.
>>343958390
Vanilla fucking sucked. All these nostalgia fags will play for a month and then quit.
>>343966603
>STV raids
>not great
>>343966452
>>343966452
>>343966452
>>343966452
>no keybinds
>TROLL shaman
>default UI
>fucking mess of a screen with quest objectives hanging around WHILE IN AV
>>343959480
>>343959480
>>343959480
>default UI
>shit binds
>shit gear
>playing retail
this fucking board is dead
>>343958390
No. Vanilla was shit and you're a stupid nosalgic dumbass who needs to let go already.
It's been 11 fucking years. Let go you pathetic retard.
>>343966926
>uh if you had more then 2 enemies that were on you you died unless you were a healer or a mage
Yeah but avoiding agroing more than one mob wasn't difficult, it's not like areas were packed with mobs. It was just tedious.
>Nothing but the whole game was a group fest
Bullfuckingshit. I remember grinding to 60 solo because you ran out of quests in Vanilla.
This isn't Everquest, the big draw of Vanila WoW that was a way more casual/solo friendly MMO than any other before. It took away a lot of arbitrary game design that plagued other MMOs.
I think you're confusing Everquest with WoW.
Once you hit 60 though, you did have to spend hours in general looking for groups, that was Everquesty I guess.
>>343967138
>mass world pvp
>guards that chase you but you can still get away and not get killed and come back and kill people
>items that would do special stuff just for the item like summon this
>dungeons were a challenge and if you fucked up you died-like it should be
>dungeons did not have 1 path leading to one room leading to one boss but the boss has 3 different difficulties that you do not give a fuck about
>no resilience
>no moba arena
>no flying mounts
>gear scaled perfectly
>journey through the world to get through dungeons
>the feel of being rewarded for being good in the game
all gone because blizzard says lolno vanilla wow sucks
>>343967138
Never played vanilla, started playing nost.
Non-nostalgia fag
can confirm Vanilla>retail.
Vanilla has it's problems, it's not perfect.
But it's a actual mmorpg
instead of a mog.
But I'm not unsubbed since I can pay for it with Garrison gold :^)
>>343958390
vanilla was awful thanks to overpowered raid/bg gear
>>343967403
I spent my vanilla experience whenever i did not have quests i would just do dungeons. Fuck that shit
>>343967098
I think their only hope is to reboot the whole thing into VR. That's the only way Blizzard could recapture that unique experience people had when they first encountered WoW.
When I first started playing the game (during TBC) I'd spend a lot of time just wandering around and exploring. That's pretty much lost now. If not because you get mounts at very low levels, but also because most players have seen a large portion of the map,
>>343960992
rogue detected
>>343958464
>2016
>Not exclusively playing games that were released today
Never.
I'd play on a legacy server for sure, but I'm not going to pay a sub fee to play decade old content, and anyone who would is a fucking retard.
The entire reason they were able to jew people out of $15 a month was because of content updates. Why would you pay a monthly fee when there is no ongoing development of the game?
>>343967457
I remember when crits were fucking crits not 2 percent of the damage now
>>343967403
>the big draw of Vanila WoW that was a way more casual/solo friendly MMO than any other before.
Fucking this. Revisionist Blizzdrones need to accept that their shit is casual as fuck compared to manmode MMOs like EQ or FFXI.
>>343967782
>le jew
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
>>343966820
> dual blades of azeroth
>>343967457
>>gear scaled perfectly
>>the feel of being rewarded for being good in the game
Are you fucking retarded?
Vanilla was never even closed to balance, there was no such thing as good scaling or being good.
Being good in Vanilla meant you were one of the 20 people in 40 man raids that didn't afk. It meant you buffed people every 5 mins as a paladin. It meant you spammed shadowbolt over and over again without killing yourself.
In pvp it meant getting insta-gibbed by shamans and rogues.
>>343958390
Nope, because it's not vanilla i want, it's new content
Vanilla had the perfect balance of making pal and running around the world, but it's not replaying legacy that it's will do it for me. I tried, but it's just not the same.
I want servers that has no instant party queues line-up, but instead you have to actually make groups the old fashioned way, they could give a bonus for doing dungeons like this, but i just want that system back to what it's was with the new content.
Moonguard is the only thing that gets me back every expansions since it's the only server that has people actually doing this sort of shit now.
>>343968002
azinoth? I dont know.
>>343967597
>get to lv60 in may 2005
>get my shit pushed in by raiders in pvp
>decide i want to be just as cool
>don't have a raid
>get the best gear outside of raids
>pvpisnowfun.exe
>UBRS group leader building a MC raid
>hey anon, want to raid with us?
>s-sure
>full T2 by december
>2-shot casuals in AV and burning steppes when i'm not raiding
Living the dream. Took me 8 hours of playtime every single day for 2 years but i had a fucking blast.
>>343967782
Because servers and customer support cost money?
>>343968227
Back to your original point though, what did you want Blizzard to do? Make it so they no longer dropped after BC?
>>343968151
hur dur
in pvp if you see a rogue going stealth or a shaman running up to you you run the opposite way unless you think you could beat him
as a lock i would still fuck up rogues but that is because i would dot them and run away
It is not that fucking hard to figure out.
Only the good survived
I seen 1 warrior defeat 10 people before and they had similar gear
Vanilla showed skill
Arena killed skill
Gear did scale perfectly
When you got a good piece it felt good
and it showed when you had it by its looks and how powerful it was
Blizzard forgot how to design a game
I certainly like doing 300000 in one hit on a guy in 2016 and taking one percent of his health
That shit is so lame and boring
>>343967902
Real talk, The Devil gets a bad wrap.
>>343967782
I haven't touched the game since 2009 but i heard the current content patch for WoW is over a year old.
>>343968352
Let the people who will actually take care of the game do it instead of people who want just to make money
>>343968451
make new models and leave the originals as a unique weapon model.
>>343968352
They do, but not nearly as much as Blizzard makes you think they do.
Out of the $15 a month people spend on wow, $1 probably goes towards paying the bills.
Servers dont cost that much money to run.
>>343958390
Only if it had
>updated visuals and character models
>no more weapon leveling skills
>no hit, armor pen, mp5, or any other boring ass shit stat
>make all classes useful in their own specs so hybrids aren't designated healers
>no random stats on gear like spirit on strength axes
>personal loot for 40 man raids
>catch up mechanics for those of us who grew up and became productive members of society
>>343968151
I used to kill alliance just by using frost shock. it was insane.
>>343968151
being good meant you were willing to look like a level 20 guy in greens to maximize your dps and you carried 500 gold worth of potions and elixirs on you.
>>343968536
Lucifer is not the devil
Lucifer is inner knowing of yourself like meditation and psychic abilities I think
Every since the millenial generation was born from the 1990s-now
paranormal became a big thing
>>343968757
Why not just play retail if you want all that shit?
>>343966771
>People rarely grouped while grinding/leveling in vanilla
>You didn't have a rotation you literally spammed maybe one skill
What's the thing with WoDcucks who clearly never played prior to MoP talking shit about previous expansions/vanilla? Is this a new meme?
That's not place where I can roleplay as draenei female with massive horse cock. I'll stick to retail, thanks.
>>343968151
>played a shadow priest and then a mostly protection paladin in vanilla
>both had absolutely shit tier gear, the paladin started slowly getting geared near the end of me playing
>never, ever felt like someone could just one shot me due to their t1-2.
>always stood a chance in pvp and regularily solo'd people above my tier
This never held true for later plays through the expansions, outside of the actual world death that came with them. But world pvp felt alive and felt like anyone could actually contribute and turn the tide of a battle. Felt more skill based to me
>>343958390
No but I'd resub if they launched TBC servers.
>>343968757
the updated shit looks retarded
it does not look like it was done correctly
>blizzard fucks up the best version of wow by doing this.
>also the productive people of society spend their whole life for green pieces of paper to get items like mcdonalds and pespi.
Fuck off corporate poster probably payed off by blizzard
>>343968757
>catch up mechanics for those of us who grew up and became productive members of society
This is what vanillafags complain about the most
They want to make WoW their life, only game they play and not pay for it all on top of that.
>>343968835
No.
Lucifer was an angel cast down from heaven because he thought he could do a better job than god.
I'm no bible thumper, but I think lucifer made a paradise for mortals without god's permission. Old testament god was a total dick, and couldnt stand being showed up by his lackey, so he cast him into the fires of hell, where he could rule.
Thinking of lucifer as an abstract psychological thing is retarded and lame. I much prefer to think of a hoofed demon with horns and a giant throbbing dick.
>>343969098
Nothing wrong with not being a slave.
>>343968757
But anon, that's exactly what retail caters to
>>343969220
I am talking about the esoteric description of lucifer not the bible.
>>343967902
what the hell am I reading
>>343969362
It is a blizzard corporate post.
>>343969098
but blizzard tried with the rested buff. I think they should buff that since it didnt really work out in the end.
>>343969369
At that point, why even call it lucifer? What if I told you that my definition of Pepsi was a pizza. It doesn't make any sense to have a word that represents something, and then just change the definition because you feel like it. Seems like your more interested in being le edgy xddd xxlucifer666xx than reaching enlightment.
Vanilla die-hards should just play Second Life if their precious "social interaction" is the most important part of the game.
>>343960740
Wow has always had outlines on selected NPC's
>>343969220
>>343969369
the bible doesnt mention of a war between god and the devil. The devil only pops up in various books. Like in Job he is the one telling god to fuck him up. And considering how Job is written it is likely that it is a story of another religion that somehow got taken over into the bible.
The whole story of lucifer being an angel that got cast out of the heavens is fanfic from Milton.
>>343969432
What you do not see spammed by corporations and govts on all websites.
>>343958390
No. Vanilla was objectively worse than modern WoW in every sense of the word. I want the game to be new again but that won't happen.
>>343958464
spbp
>>343969432
This shit is terrifying. It looks like the pickup was just driving normally until it hit a patch of black ice. Death out of nowhere.
Why would anyone play this decade old pile of shit if you can just play Legion?
It's shaping up to be the best expansion so far. I'm really looking forward to teaching my wife's son how to play demon hunters. He's only three, but that's also the amount of buttons he needs to click to hit the skill ceiling so my little black boy is going to be just fine
>>343969994
what if you are another goverment organisation pretending to be a subversive element to herd subversive people into a managable element?
>>343969715
See
That is why the esoterics are kind of compelling.
They do stuff that looks like it is crazy and evil and scary.
But if you go past all of that they know some of the deepest things about human history.
They went into religion and made it about nature
Son of god walking over water=Sun setting and setting over water
12 apostles=12 zodiac signs
4 sides of an alter
the 4 equinoxes
There is esoteric teacher that goes into great detail about it his name is manly p hall
While we are at it, are there any good vanilla servers around now that nost is gone?
yes. it would be a great 4 months and then i would move to chechnya for more purposes than not, nor beginning in the right sense, such as felicity--not legitimately. more lightweight scandinavian sea weed byproducts and western to be the chance. events are expendable, so perhaps a clapping expert was one. just my opinion.
>>343961662
Well, I guess it's time to quit bloodborn since it came out in the past.
>>343970338
>>343970865
That doesn't answer the question though.
>>343970865
why does the government allow you to post these things if they are in control in the way you say they are.
le ancient evil
>>343968509
>gear scaled perfectly
>I saw a warrior 1v10 and win even thought they had similar gear
make up your mind
>>343971110
Why does the person in the 1940s go to the bar and talks how the propaganda towards the nazis and japanese and say it is invasive and they do not like it
It is propaganda being massed for a new generation
>old wow
I would be unable to due to never subbing in the first place.
>>343971073
You think a person exposing the practices is the bad one?
I never seen this shit in my life and it is terrifying.
>>343958390
I would
But im worried that it would attract the modern blizzard crowd, which in term would mean it had a shit community.
Great thing about Nost was that fact that the people playing it actually liked WoW and didnt have battered wife syndrome that modern WoW players have
>>343971539
so the government only monitors the internet, it doesnt control it?
>>343971567
>>343971567
That image is a perfect microcosm of early 2000s internet. It's not just vanilla wow, it's old wow and the old internet culture.
>>343971767
I mean if you make every website talk about the same type of stuff like
Cuck
Dindu-nuffin
Jews
SJW
White privilege
Tumblr
etc
It becomes what is talked about in the main process.
It is not monitoring but what it is doing is spamming this information so it is the dominant information.
You still have free words but if you go against what is being said you get called out. one person cannot do the same as this. even if this one thing is posted that is anti-propaganda there is million of things being posted making this post easily forgotten.
Here is a website with something you see on this website.
When it is on everywebsite it becomes the new reality that everyone has to endure
>>343960740
>>343969968
I actively play and I've never seen that NPC outline in my life. Quest objectives have outlines around them nowadays, but that was a recent feature as well.
>>343971276
At least that ancient evil was spoken about for the longest time, they even did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TthwWAMRnXk back in Cataclysm which features music you can't hear anywhere else in the game
>>343971963
Your being born in the early 2000s doesn't mean you understand the Internet culture of the time, newfag.
>>343966764
>he thinks it's challenging to have a logical opinion
>>343971963
Its amazing how different old fora were at the time. Anonymous people, signs that either were witty lines, wannabe witty lines, or some softcore porn image of a woman with a name. People would state their opinion while calling the other opinion shit and then just roll with it. Hell recently I found a forum that is almost dead but still has that spark. To quote
>you can try a WSC build but unless the german player is huffing glue that is a retardmove
Its amazing how quickly normalfags and facebook real names can kill internet
>>343972195
Yes thats called setting the agenda. Its a basic form of human communication when you have to communicate as a group.
Yes those things get posted a lot but it is because it is relevant in politics at the moment. Just because they talk about it a lot doesnt mean that it has to be pushed by a secret entity. Learning calculus gets pushed in science classes but that doesnt mean it is some evil entity that forces it forward. It is just an important part of exact sciences
>>343971673
Not necessarily, but please do answer the question in >>343970338 's post
>>343972703
I want the govt to talk about using bots to push propaganda.
That needs to be talked about
>>343972794
I am just freaked out by this whole thing, I do not like where the internet has headed
>>343958390
No. this company is not going to get another nickel from me.
>>343968757
>i want retail
kys
>>343970228
very poor bait
>>343969085
>i don't need a job my parents take care of me
>i pirate my games
>i try to ignore the disappointment in my father's eyes
>>343973036
>still circling the question about if you arent just another government shill pretending not to be
I guess your master didnt teach you how to play tricks on this question did he.
No because nostalgia fags are barely ever right.
Melee is the exception to the rule and I even wish Nintendo would make a spiritual successor to it already.
>>343973310
>slaving for green pieces of paper instead of fulfilling my desires on this planet as a human
>having the freedom of only choosing pepsi or mcdonalds as the people who care about me as a human on my birthday and the ceos will definitely be there at my funeral.
The most dissapointing thing a person can be is a consumer
>>343968757
>spirit isn't even a stat anymore in retail
crazy
>>343973817
spirit always felt like a gimmick stat since the regen was terribly low and stacking it in favor of other stats didnt pay off at all. Only during the endgame with some special talents like dreamstate was it ever worth it.
I remember vanilla priest with spirit tap. After lvl 40 the spirit stat was so defunct you couldnt even regen like crazy of it with 5x normal spirit.
>>343971276
Warcraft has always been about ancient evil, it's just that we're used to it because they go by names like the burning legion and old gods.
Back in WC1 they had daemons.
>>343973359
you are not really denying corporations brainwashing people for more money nor govts brainwashing people for more political control over them
>>343973310
>having a father
>>343975138
>you are not really denying corporations brainwashing people for more money nor govts brainwashing people for more political control over them
no there is no reason to deny what is happening. But you still didnt answer the question.
>>343975705
yes there is.
If people had a public hearing about it and corporations told them the truth there would be revolution and no advertising on the internet = freedom
>>343975823
people were told by snowden about internet surveilance. No revolution.
People have access to advertisement blockers. Still many dont use them
Asnwer >>343970338
>>343976035
You cannot block anonymous bots.
Yeah. I wouldn't even stop to think about it.
>>343975823
Except there wouldn't be, people are very complacent even when presented with hard evidence of fuckery this is especially true when it isn't something that's blatantly morally wrong like eating babies or white knighting women.
>>343976150
point is that even if they were blockable people dont do it, nor do they care about getting controlled. You are talking about how we get fucked over and if we knew it we would do something about it but we dont. You dont do shit, you just repost images. Governments dont do shit, since they are on payroll of the industry. Industry doesnt do shit, they want it this way. Other people dont do shit, they like the status quo, and the ones that dont get pampered enough to not feel like changing it. I dont do shit, because I know that most people dont care enough to put themselves and their welfare on the line for changing it. I bet they would even retaliate against any uprising since it could harm them.
And you can be a government bot as well.
>>343968183
But you still have to manually make groups for mythic dungeons and any raid above LFR
>>343976616
80 percent of citizens have a mental disorder
>>343977746
>mental disorder
but mental disorders are a construction by big pharma to sell more complacency improving drugs. So you are a government shill
>>343977996
nope they have mental disorders because of the consumer prison they are a part of
>>343978139
>trying to spew that crap
You think me some impressionable fool that never read some of the forums you mention. It isnt the consumer prison that makes them mentally ill. It is what they put in our food.
>>343978419
Nope
No human is allowed to be free to be what they want to be or do what they want to do in their heart and soul so that is why we have people who are sick in the brain
>>343978653
What kind of leftist bullshit is that. It is not about what people want to do, it is about what is good for the community. What is good for the community is good for the person. As they work for the betterment of all they will find enjoyment. Doing what you like is what ruins modern society. Everyone just does their own thing in their own corner even if it damages the community as a whole. Rich people fucking others over just so they can make more money. Big pharma poisoning everyone, from elderly to children, just to make more money. All of that because they do what is good just for them.
>>343980008
No such thing as left and right when they are both ruled by the same thing
they are working together to enslave humanity.
No such thing as good for the community when most of the majority of humans feel left out.
There is no such thing as community. The only thing it ruins is control of people and consumerism which has been in effect on this planet since religion was brought to the planet. It is time to evolve. Go past our materialistic slavery desires and move on.
>>343980771
>No such thing as left and right when they are both ruled by the same thing
true
>There is no such thing as community
there is, or rather, was. Politicalisation, consumerism and media blew it up since atomising society makes it easier to mold. So there is a good for the community in that creating a new community is good.
Religion doesnt create consumerism. In fact, many religions have rejection of consumerism as highest good. Just look at monks, whether it are Tibetan monks or christian monks, same principle.
>It is time to evolve. Go past our materialistic slavery desires and move on.
You cant, but you can channel the natural force of possession into something good. The problem is that it isnt beneficial for the big guys
>>343958390
Yes, and play it for a week and then realizing how shit it is. But yes, yes I would.
>>343972929
>>343972703
>>343972195
what was your favourite wow class?
>>343967085
MY NIGGA
>>343982369
warlock/mage during vanilla. paladin during BC.
If WoW can't improve going forward, going backwards won't improve it either.
Not enjoying the game as it is now means you just don't play. If you can't live without playing an old version of a video game you have worse problems than not being able to play it.
>>343983245
I bet you never got past level 10 on nost
