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How do you properly create a gay character?
You don't tell anyone they are gay.
>>343939757
Make him completely attractive and fuckable but don't make any mention that he is gay in the game.
like this
When you make fun of the gay character in a funny way
Don't make them "The gay character"
You don't.
have him die of aids midway through
>>343939757
The same way you create a hetero character.
No straight guy starts the conversation with "DAMN I SURE LOVE PUSSY".
>>343939757
t. Arcade Gannon
>>343939757
Never make them being gay a major point in their character.
See the movie ParaNorman
>>343939757
You don't.
Write them some interesting character traits that don't have to do with sexuality.
>>343940221
Duke Nukem
like this
>>343939757
Make it a cute girl
>>343939757
You make him a trap
>>343939757
Why does it matter? You trying to recreate yourself?
There is no 'proper' way
We're just as diverse in mannerisms and beliefs as everyone else.
If people are incapable of liking a gay character because they don't act straight that's their own problem. Fuck catering to them.
>>343939757
Don't make it part of their personality whatsoever.
>>343939757
The same way you create a "straight" character: don't make their sexuality their key defining trait.
People don't remember Undyne and Alphys from Undertale as only lesbians, they had personalities that were much more prominent than their sexualities.
tl;dr, don't succumb to the BioWare / Gone Home effect
>>343939757
I dunno. I always like if it's acknowledged, but in a realistic way. Like maybe he/she has some kind of chip on his/her shoulder because they weren't accepted for who they were. Maybe they became super powerful so nobody questions them.
TLoU had a pretty good gay character, basically a crazy recluse, but then you realize he's nuts because he butt-buddy died and now he's alone.
>>343939923
This, but also put another character in the game for him to be overly protective of.
>>343940395
>>343940389
>>343940296
>>343940176
>>343940174
all very good answers
>>343939757
According to Sarkeesianite cancer, gay characters should be noticeably gay but still blend in with everyone else, AND they shouldn't be murderers or bad people because this reflects negative stereotypes of deviancy.
Video games should be about FUN
>>343939757
faggotry is just so disgusting and the media glorifies its worst sides, the kikes are winning...I just can't help it that I find some boys cute, fuck off. Stop drawing them like that or giving them aesthetic cocks!
>>343939865
>>343939923
>>343940065
>>343940221
>>343940268
These have the right idea.
I don't mind gay characters, as long as they have some depth to them.
Then again if there was a game with a violently gay uber-fag, I'd probably like that even more.
Gay perspective here
I like the way overwatch did it. When asked, they announced that there are gay character(s), but didn't specify. As romance hasn't contributed anything to any character backstories yet, I'm glad they haven't overtly stated "X character is gay"
If newly revealed characters add some sort of romance background to explain rivalries or friendships between characters in the future, I figure it'd be okay for one such romance to be gay, but only if it is done naturally and doesn't feel forced.
>>343939757
The same way you properly create a straight guy,
>>343940605
You could actually make a character out of that idea though which is the main problem with token characters, they're just there to represent a minority and have nothing in the way of personality, motivation, or character development.
>>343940583
>faggotry is just so disgusting
Homo love is the only true kind of love. Straight is the only disgusting sexuality.
>>343940543
>People don't remember Undyne and Alphys from Undertale as only lesbians
People on tumblr literally do not care about anything about them outside of being lesbians.
Do exactly the opposite of what /v/ tells you.
Homosexuality is just as much an abnormality as being born with 2 heads.
dont write them into stories unless there is a need for them or part of the story is about that chatacteristic.
Making a character gay just because you feel like it or want to be oh so progressive will always, without fail, come off as forced and awkward.
>>343939757
dont focus his character around being gay.
better yet, dont make one.
>>343940930
DO NOT MAKE A MUSCULAR SHOTA THAT TRIES TO FUCK EVERYONE
name him OP
>>343939757
make them actually attractive and cute
>>343940695
>overwatch has homo characters
wut
Volgin is probably the best. He has a personality but he also fucks Raikovs boy pussy
>it's a "/v/ thinks the only good representation is when a minority character is literally invisible" episode
>having characters with any sexuality at all
>getting distracted from the important parts of vidya, namely gameplay and atmosphere
shiggy
People complain about gay characters' romance being shoved in their faces but the fact is, romance or whoever that person is having sex with is a prominent part of most people's lives. It's gonna come up at some point if that person has an extended conversation.
![kirby_loves_you_by_tails090-d8xjhif[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/dUb150E.png "kirby loves you by tails090-d8xjhif[1]")
>>343939757
Like this
>>343941025
>>overwatch has homo characters
>wut
Maybe he means the fat ugly pig guy or the balding rat
>>343940605
Violently gay uber fag is incredibly fun
You don't have to be gay to be flamboyant I know but nothing's as hilariously great as somebody that looks like a pop star fucked a rainbow prancing up and going OHHHHHH YYEESS
>>343939757
Make him a conflicted, well balanced, flawed human being that pokes fun at his own homosexuality on occasion and is willing to bust balls and have his own balls busted, also make sure he holds some opinion that would probably be considered unprogressive or uncharacteristic for a media gay personality to have. Maybe have a story line about how he will not let himself be the victim and takes control of his own life without the expectations of everyone accepting him.basically I want Milo in a video game.
>make character
>they like the same sex
>write them like you would write any other character
that's literally it.
>>343941025
They confirmed at Blizzcon when asked.
>>343939757
make him fancy dick
done
Make a bro-tier character that also fucks dudes
See? Not hard.
>>343939757
Like how they did it with Hammerlock in bl2. It's not all in your face that he's gay (like they did with the characters in pre-sequel), the player just kind of finds out on their own.
A gay character is fine as long as that's not the only feature they have to contribute to the story.
Best gay character
>>343939757
i find the sterio type gay far more intresting then a normal homo
>make character
>make them like penis instead of vagina
>make their romantic interest (if you're doing that for your characters) a dude
>have them act normally in all of their actions and character interactions
>>343940695
>YFW it is Winston that is gay.
>>343941298
BL2 does it completely wrong because practically every character in that game is gay or some other "special snowflake" bullshit to the point where it doesn't even fucking matter.
>>343941298
>Borderlands writing being praised
Never thought I'd see the day.
jann from valkyria chronicles
volgin from mgs3 (though he's bi)
solaire from dark souls
mass effect characters are all hamfisted and pander-y as fuck, bioware is literally full of fags
>>343939757
you let him tell you and every one around that hes gay, also mesh t shirt and string Tanga, dont forget the giant rainbow name plate and floating neo sign with HES GAY! also play the gayies music of them all.
You know so ppl know.
Hell Nazis on dinosaurs will kill us all when gays act like every one else.
Happy to help anon.
>>343939757
Like any other character... if it's a game where it's appropriate add subtext.
How about you prioritize making good characters and if they're gay then that's just a bonus?
>>343939757
you don't
you properly make a character, and he might just happen to be gay.
don't force it
don't hamfist it
don't bring it up out of the blue
be subtle
>>343941320
Was just about to post this.
Gannon isn't defined by his sexuality and nor does he coming swinging out of the closet when you first meet him. He's defined as a scientist and a hardliner against most of the other factions in New Vegas although mainly against the legion. You can talk to him about a lot of different shit and if you should pursue, he'll eventually bring up his sexuality.
I'd could talk about it more but I'll keep it short.
You can't, people will call it pandering no matter what.
>>343941505
Actually, come to think of it, there really aren't that many gay characters in BL2. Hammerlock is the only outright gay guy there; Axton's bi in the sense of "I'll fuck anything that gets me hard.", not just for stupid drama. And even that just came from a voiceover glitch.
>putting a black character in is fine as long as they act white :)
>>343940237
this
>>343939757
Step 01: write a character
Step 02: it just so happens this character likes the same gender. This doesn't affect their character in any way.
You have now properly created a gay character
>>343940941
The percentage of "pure" homosexuality (aka only liking your own gender) is estimated about 2-5%. Bisexual is far larger in number, not to mention all the people who are total liars to themselves, especially if you live in a religious area where it's basically social suicide to admit anything. It's very prevalent and not akin to "being born with two heads so don't write them in unless need be".
If it was 1/200,000 like conjoined twins, then maybe. But it's more like 4% (for pure homosexuality) and even more if you put in people who like both. That percentage is rather large.
We are just very prude creatures, also. 10% of rams are straight up homosexuals. Bonobos fuck everything. It all depends on the species for the amount of naturally occurring homosexuality, since most mammals have homosexual populations, some small, some very large. Humans are just in a conservative denial about it, which hopefully will pass because no one should give a shit who you want to stick your dick in.
>create a normal guy
>never mention he's gay in any way
done
>>343941653
No I disagree, you should write a bad character but select their minority status with a roulette wheel.
>>343939757
GG has Venom and new Vegas has Arcade.
>>343940870
>not making alphys a thick lizard
That's all I care about.
Give them a personality besides being gay
Literally 95% of gay characters in any media don't have a personality besides sucking dick
>>343941724
Speaking as a gay guy here, the reason a lot of people don't want prancing fruits is because they generally tend to be really obnoxious and self absorbed, and nobody likes that.
>>343941720
Tiny Tina is gay
>>343941724
Putting a black character in is fine as long as they don't act like a stereotype. You can even make them a ghetto trash gangbanger, but you need to give them nuance.
Unless you mean 4chan, in which case they'll just call it pandering trash no matter what.
>>343941505
I felt like that was more prevalent in pre-sequel than bl2, but then again it's been a long time since I played it so maybe I'm remembering wrong.
>>343939757
1. Make them a Krogan
2. Make them romanceable
There, a proper gay character I would like.
by tying them up at the end of your pickup and dragging the son of a bitch down a dirt road
FAG DRAG
FAG DRAG
>>343941724
Put a black guy in a game as long as you can kill him
>>343941875
That's realistic though
>>343941724
A lot of if not most gay people find prancing homo lala flaming queens fucking annoying.
I played va-11 hall-a recently and I think it handled gay characters pretty well. Like a third of the cast is either gay or bisexual but it never feels forced. Characters talk about their sex lives but it just comes across as people shooting the shit about their lives in general rather than someone trying to force their beliefs on you.
>>343939757
There are two ways for me.
Have the character be gay but still keep them a normal person with his own personality, like Tony from Earthbound.
OR
Have the fact that they're gay affect them in some way, like in how they dress or how they act. Like Niles from FE fates, he's always making constant innuendos and makes it pretty obvious he's gay/bi. Just listen to that voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064Exe7lN3Y
>>343941120
>Kirby
>gay
>>343941724
Because all games need black characters saying shit like "YO FUK SHIT NIGGA WANT SOME CRACK MUDDAFUCKA"
>>343941907
She is also batshit insane, and that's the biggest part of her character.
>>343939757
Make em all cute bears
>>343939757
you don't know they're gay
/thread
>>343941070
>it's a go back to >>>/tv/ post
>>343942068
Homos have real personalities, unlike straight guys who are almost exclusively thirsty ass beta orbiters.
>>343942151
That's an oxymoron.
you don't, stop trying to shove LGBT characters down people's throats
>>343941724
>dub voice
Irrelevant
>>343942136
>Its okay to sexualize a little girl if she fits my homo agenda
No thanks
>>343942151
>Roadhog
>Cute
Have a un-realistic hair color
>>343942195
If "Personality" to you is just being flamboyant and making your entire identity about how you like dick instead of vagina
I think the best way to show a difference is The Last of Us with Bill in the main game and Ellie and her friend in the DLC. One is an actual character and the other feels like it was done just to get brownie points from a clique.
>>343941064
That's another good one too. I always forget he's gay until I get to the part where he grabs your crotch to prove you're not Raikov.
I feel like gay characters are a sort of pariah, maybe they've always been but in the past few years there's this sort of "Check it out, we've got a GAY (black / white / etc) character! Isn't that exciting, huh!?".
Like yep, they're one dimensional characters comin' out of the gates because the first idea down on the table is "well, they're gay, for starters". It's not some widespread agenda or whatever loony bullshit people would like to think but why don't some people just write em as any other dude? Whatever happened to just writing interesting characters?
>>343942285
Does it even come up outside of that one time she got obsessed with whats-her-face's legs in her DLC?
Being LGBT can have a serious affect on your outlook and attitude. Having the character act like their attraction has no affect on anything is lazy.
>>343942081
>>343941878
I'm gay as well
There's more to us than acting straight or putting on a thong and throating a dildo. Showing the struggles they go through can build character and add layers of drama. Not every game needs this, but I don't accept that the best gay character is someone who doesn't 'act' gay, because that could mean a million different things.
>>343942134
>>343941968
You people only see your own biased view of the world. Black people can be more than just 'white' or full ghetto nigger. Gay people can be more than 'straight' and glitter farting aids magnets.
Make them be an actual character. If their only character trait is that they're gay you fucked up.
>>343939757
Don't make it a defining character trait, as it rarley is IRL. I feel sorry for all the regular gay bros out there who have to live as part of the modern LGBTQASDF scene. Gays generally don't introduce themselves as the gay guy.
Arcade Ganon in New Vegas is a good example. His whole character would basically be the same whether he was gay or straight. You only learn he's gay off-handedly through some comment he makes about being swept off his feet by a nice man.
>>343939947
That doesn't look at all like Arcade Gannon.
Make it either
A.) Important to his character in some way, not just "hey guys I'm gay look at me"
B.) Have it be a footnote that's not really important, like the guy from New Vegas
>>343939947
Based Tony
I was so glad when Luisdidn't shoot him
also best pause menu track in any game desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atha8XPhkuQ
This whole gay agenda and people who only view the world through their rainbow colored lens are hilarious. Imagine if some guy had to declare all the time that he only likes to fuck fat girls, and tried to judge everything by his sexual preferences, and creates a political movement about fattie fuckers. This is exactly like how those gay rights activists do it.
You dont, some fag making sure everyone knows he is gay every second is just going to make people hate that fag.
You just make a character and then imply he is gay .
>>343942414
>Black people can be more than just 'white' or full ghetto nigger.
That's exactly what I said, faggot. "Don't make them a one-note stereotype".
>example
Ellie from the Last of Us.
You just create normal character with all his/her personality traits and just write that she/he likes to have sex with the same gender.
It's not that hard. The great example is also - >>343939947 if you want really expressive character.
>>343939757
Unless it's a Japanese game, it can't work. Basically, just make them lust for your dick and act like a girl. Make them look like a girl, but with male features (but still cute and girly obviously)
Basically, something that makes your peepee hard
>>343942414
Why do you say "Straight" when you really mean "Normal"
>>343942357
A lot of writers have no idea how to do that.
>>343939757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3QpXqO3lZY
>>343939865
then why is >>343939947 so well made?
>>343942568
Sorry, but I do not believe Ellie is 100% lesbian just because she fooled around with a friend as a teenager
>>343942596
Why are you arguing semantics?
>>343942414
I get what you mean but videogame writers have never been good at writing realistic characters like that
>>343942543
>Imagine if some guy had to declare all the time that he only likes to fuck fat girls, and tried to judge everything by his sexual preferences, and creates a political movement about fattie fuckers.
Have you been on vacation for the past few months? That's literally all /v/ has been for a while now. Straight people are more obnoxious than homos will ever be.
>>343942596
>Why do you say "Straight" when you really mean "Normal"
Sure Anon. But you do realise that normal as term is subjective?
>>343942543
Uh, nobody is fighting for gay rights in this thread.
>>343941724
No, the reasoning here is more like "It's okay to put a black character as long as I never find out he's black."
It's like, everyone here seems to think it's only okay to have a gay character if this information is literally never revealed in-game, or revealed really in a really obscure dialogue tree and never touched on again. They can't even be in a fucking relationship or anything or else it's immediately pandering SJW garbage or something.
>>343939757
>2016
>the sexuality of a character is a thing in vidya
>you will never enjoy headbutting the first gold coin block and jumping on the goomba again without someone questioning the sexuality of the character
cunts
Make all the characters 10 times worse to make them seem normal
>>343939757
Like this.
>>343939757
>gaming in charge of good """writing"""
when will this meme end for once?
>>343942743
"Straight" produces more human beings through reproduction. I don't think it's subjective, our species wouldn't be here if being gay was the norm
>>343942658
Being being gay is his thing and its joked at. Thats what faggots dont get. If you cant laugh at yourself how can you laugh at anyone else?
>>343942871
Thered be a lot less traffic though. Sounds good to me.
>>343942859
With one post above you
>>343942414
@Your comment regarding struggles with homosexuality, I think Persona 4 did a good job of that with Kanji. It's not his entire character, but it does cover his inner struggle confronting it through his "shadow self". It's a shame they drop almost all references to it after the fact however.
>>343942871
Maybe homosexuality is some sort of population control
>>343942743
Normal is a statistical term and is entirely not subjective. It really is the default setting, gays are an extremely small minority of people otherwise the human race wouldn't be able to reproduce effectively.
I'm gay btw.
>>343939757
> make great character
>happens to be gay
>don't even mention it if it doesn't matter
wow that was hard
>>343942660
>Three people stabbed at KKK rally in California
How do you properly create a trans character?
You make them sexy
>>343942703
>Sorry, but I do not believe Ellie is 100% lesbian just because she fooled around with a friend as a teenager
>100% lesbian
So what? She can even be bisexual. She can be asexual. She can be whatever the heck she want/whatever the creators will write onto her character.
It's just a fucking preference thats all.
>somebody likes something
So fucking what? Why we don't disscus if somebody likes tomatos or not?
She liked her friend and she expressed that. Jfc. Big deal.
>>343942871
Normal doesn't always mean most popular. Wanting to be with a woman in any capacity is abnormal, no matter how many people do it. A healthy person has no need for worthless whores in his life.
>>343942903
Except almost every faggot I've met knows how to laugh at themselves. It's always lesbians I've seen get pissy about jokes.
>>343942658
Despite being called Gay Tony, being gay isn't important to his character.
If being gay is their only character trait, it's a bad character.
If they reference that they're gay even though it has no bearing on thier character or the story at hand, it's a bad character
>>343943032
Kanji's struggle had to do with the fact he had feminine hobbies. He's actually not gay, because he's attracted to a girl even after it's revealed she is one.
>>343942564
Sorry faggot I meant to reply to you with something else but I didn't notice you were already quoted
>>343942720
I'm aware. I just wish more of them were trying, and not leaving it to writing hacks like the Gearbox team.
>>343942805
That's a better way of putting it. They're uncomfortable with it but don't want to admit it, so they add these stupid restrictions like having them not "act" gay.
>>343943032
Shit. I've had that game for months and never checked it out. Gonna do that this weekend.
>>343942741
Except that's wrong? There isn't a "hetero rights" political movement, but there is such a thing such as "gay rights". I thought rights were for everyone and not just some groups. Is that a everyone is equal but some are more equal than the others kind of deal?
>>343942785
Where did I say there are?
>>343943032
Different dude, but you're right on that. It's probably the best representation of a guy being confused about things, instead of just going "I'M GAY, EVERYONE, I'M GAY I LIKE THE COCK"
>>343942951
>a one dimensional character ,not interesting but not bragging about his homolust at the same time, is considered as well written character writing
>>343940543
>using Underfag as an example
Get the fuck out.
>>343943108
They act like the gender they want to be. Boom, done.
It's why only the most crazy of SJWs push for a "trans" character option in RPGs and the like; most trans people just pick the gender they want to be and play that.
>>343939757
make sure to tell God when you figure it out cause even he can't seem to get it right.
>>343940221
Only right answer.
>>343939757
The same way you make any good character - you give them depth. One-dimensional characters are bad, no matter if they're gay or straight. But it's especially dubious if you make a character gay and they have no other defining traits. That's tokenism.
>>343943108
Write a character that has a 40% chance of suicide, with several psychosocial deficits.
>>343943278
>act gay
If a character acts like a flamer, you can bet I'll be annoyed. Otherwise there is no difference in actions between homosexuality and heterosexuality, gay doesn't make you suddenly act differently.
You don't.
Good games don't pander to sexuality.
>>343943147
You have two balls made for one thing
>>343943278
Apology accepted, faggot.
>>343943219
he acts really gay though. hand movement and speaking manner are som examples
>>343941298
Fuck off, Anthony.
>>343943108
You don't. Most trans people are self loathing and probably don't care for representation in video games.
Man, fuck subtlety and "not making it part of ther character".
Whatever happened to writing characters like Silver and Gold?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BXw4CxNkaE
>>343941505
I'm replaying BL2 for the hell of it currently, and honestly being gay aside, Hammerlock is probably one of the only normal characters when it comes to their views on sex aside from the BL1 returning heroes
>Moxxi: turboslut to the extreme
>Tina: Is blatantly a college lesbian, not an actual lesbian. She acts like she does it for the attention.
>Axton: would fuck a toaster if it got him off. Not a robot, a literal toaster.
>Scooter: wants to fuck his landwhale sister
>Motor Momma: eats the people she has sex with
>Gaige: heavily implied that she wants to fuck Deathtrap
By comparison, Hammerlock is just gay, that's all. He's otherwise a normal gentleman.
>>343942285
There is literally nothing wrong with sexualizing little girls.
>>343940221
End of the thread.
>>343943108
See. >>343943108
>>343943278
>Shit. I've had that game for months and never checked it out. Gonna do that this weekend.
Spoiler Alert:He's just a guy who grew up having feminine hobbies and ended up falling for a girl who dressed as a guy, and all that lead him to believe he's gay when he probably isn't.
>>343943360
>one dimensional
What's his one dimension, then?
>>343940870
>People on tumblr
...have nothing to do with the base game.
>>343943604
>Dad walks in
>>343939757
JUST bee yourself. OP.
>>343942871
I don't think your grasp of evolution is all that strong. Then again, most anti-gay are also religious conservatives who believe in the Bible so I don't find that surprising.
>>343942568
>>343942703
I think people really missed the point with Riley. Riley was pretty much the only person in Ellie's life, and she was getting ready to leave her. The amount of emotion in Ellie surrounding Riley was more than enough for a kiss, and probably could have turned into love fairly easily, especially given the prison-like setting of the Quarantine Zone. I was actually dumbfounded that the only thing people got out of that kiss was fuel for the "gay or not" argument machine. Her sexual orientation was so far from relevant in the context of that scene. Maybe she's gay, maybe she's bi, maybe she's otherwise straight, but the thing that matters is that she loves Riley, and doesn't want her to go join the Fireflies.
It's like this documentary I saw on Prison romance. Dudes behind bars, who were other wise straight, will fall completely in love. They were interviewing gangsta ass niggas who were saying that they were utterly heartbroken when their prison spouse either got out, got moved to another prison, got thrown in Solitary, or left them. Emotions run deep when you're in that kind of situation with people.
>>343939757
>perpetuating the "rainbows are for gays" meme
kill yourself. colors are for everyone. the only color gays abide by anyway is ultraviolet seeing as they're largely invisible and cause cancer.
Make them hot.
When has a game not been improved by adding hot lesbians to it?
Never. I guess if you swring for gay guys or something you can add in some hot gay dudes or something but seriously, do you want to know why everyone into Overwatch wants to see Mercy and Pharah raining justice from above on each other? Because they're fucking hot.
Make them hot. Simple as that. You can't even disagree.
You might not even think that this is remotely true, but give it some thought and you will see.
>>343943108
Magic or superscience. Don't make it a struggle, because it shouldn't be. Who could blame anyone for wanting to be a hot girl? Hell, I do, and I'm a completely straight male.
>>343943321
Oh get fucked
Calling for straight rights is just a way to silence the LGBT community. You people already have all the rights we're asking for.
>>343943547
I agree for the most part, but it can give you a different outlook.
>>343939757
How do you create a hetro character?
You make a character.
Sexuality shouldn't be a such a major part of anybody, regardless of if they're mentally ill enough to regard their fetish as a sexuality.
>>343940268
What does ParaNorman have to do with having gay characters being a major plot device?
>>343943108
Draw a girl and call it a boy
Draw a boy and call it a girl
>>343943668
He did.
He thought they were hilarious. He thought the midget rangers were way more bizarre.
>>343943707
>mfw the rainbow is actually fucking awesome but gets abducted by the lgbt group
goddamn it
>>343943680
You can't evolve if you don't reproduce, you know. We're not at the genetic rewriting stage of gene therapy yet.
>>343940221
>No straight guy starts the conversation with "DAMN I SURE LOVE PUSSY".
I see an awful lot of "I want to _______ her" type posts on /v/ though.
>>343940543
Are you fucking joking? Alphys would not shut up the whole fucking game about how much she wanted to munch that fish pussy
>>343943321
>There isn't a "hetero rights" political movement, but there is such a thing such as "gay rights"
lol why the fuck do you think that is?
>>343943680
I'm not anti-gay. I just know what "Act straight" really means
>>343943697
This Anon gets it.
>>343942821
What I don't get is that there isn't a straight, "cis" character in the picture. That's the opposite of diverse.
>>343940543
This. Characters are characters foremost, not walking vaginas.
[/spoiler]i thought alphys was a guy at first ngl[/spoiler]
>>343943051
Wich could be imparted on kids trough mass media.
Is it a coincidence than homosexuality was so relevant in the 90' and again right now 20 years later?
Also, what games make being gay an important part of gameplay?
Can't think of any other than maybe getting rewards for romancing someone in Dragon Age.
>>343943736
>a different outlook
The game would need to have fairly uncommon themes for anything homosexuality might skew your opinion on to be that relevant.
>>343943707
>>343943806
Rainbows are for the mentally ill though
>I love ALL colors equally :)
Name A SINGLE THING that looks good in rainbow colors
>>343939757
Check out Mysterious Skin.
>>343943806
If you're that afraid of what people think then you don't deserve the rainbow. Just enjoy what you want.
>>343943821
>I see an awful lot of "I want to _______ her" type posts
Welcome to 4chan summerfag
>>343943970
fucking Gilbert Baker
>>343943970
>Name A SINGLE THING that looks good in rainbow colors
>>343943932
The creator came out and said none of the characters are "cis" because "muh cis scum is everywhere"
>>343943604
>Man, fuck subtlety and "not making it part of ther character".
This is all I could think of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdP7HOKehNc
>>343943736
What rights do LGBT people not have that straight people do? Serious question.
>>343939757
Do what they did in The Witcher 3
>guy is completely normal hunter dude
>lives on the outskirts of the village, due to a combination of his profession, his history, and lastly his sexuality (which may have had an impact on his choice of profession)
>only reveals his sexuality if you keep pressing the issue, saying he has a "condition"
>Geralt originally thinks it's lycanthropy
>When Geralt finds out the hunter's gay, he doesn't give a shit, just feels bad about pressing the issue
>Hunter guy is still a useful character and his backstory fleshes out another side quest a little bit - it helps establish the character of a nearby town's lord who was a dickhead
tldr version:
>their gayness should not be their primary character trait
>their gayness should not be brought up unless the player pushes the issue and/or it's plot relevant
>>343942743
I don't think it's subjective when normal can also be used as a descriptor for "the majority."
Gay people aren't a majority. They're just really loud.
>>343943950
Dunno what you're trying to say, but I do think kids should at least know that being gay is an option. There are plenty of kids - especially in more closed off countries - that are gay but don't have any one to talk to about it, so they end up trying to discover shit on their own and putting themselves in danger.
>>343939757
Make an interesting character and use their sexuality to explore how the world treats gay people.
>>343944085
Rainbow.
>>343944085
Woah fatty, that's a few too many layers
>>343943821
Well /v/ isn't normal conversation is it? I should hope most people don't scream THICC when in art museums or hold up pictures of smug anime girls when they get in an argument.
>>343943970
Rainbows.
>>343943870
>Not fish taco
Missed opportunities
>>343944176
The right to not be fired from your job due to your sexuality.
>>343943970
i dunno, a rainbow?
what are you fucking retarded?
>>343940941
I don't know about you but I don't often come across people with two heads.
>>343944176
Up until last year, all the legal rights that marriage brings. Marriage is a powerful legal contract. It goes beyond mere joint tax filing,
>>343944220
>not doing that
fucking casual normies
>>343944085
I'd fuck that cake.
>>343944308
>implying
Sexual harassment is a firable offense.
>>343944181
>their gayness should not be their primary character trait
THIS THIS THIS THIS
End of the fucking thread.
>>343940221
>No straight guy starts the conversation with "DAMN I SURE LOVE PUSSY".
How many 80s action movies have you seen?
Or better, have you seen Predator? Because that was Rick's whole character.
Make a character and only mention anything about their personal lives vaguely alluded to or buried in a codex entry five quests/missions/levels prior to meeting them. Having homosexuality be an important component of a character's story is not allowed because it is NEVER important in the real world and video games are the real world. Also the Quran forbids it.
>>343944380
gays are extremely promiscuous, have anyone even looked at the number of gay marriages in places that allowed that?
>>343943806
>why do gays get refracted light, I like rainbows too
Quote from my dad on a road trip
>>343943954
It's not for every game, of course. I don't need every single game or even most of them to have gay characters.
But if you're going to do it, depending on the setting it might make for a very different character. I'd like Bioware to actually tackle the gay struggle instead of pulling a Bethesda where "everything is perfectly accepted aren't we progressive ;)"
>>343944176
States are still pushing out laws to let businesses fire people for being gay. Gay marriage is a big one, but there's still issues surrounding the marriage itself. Adoption is more difficult. And one of the worst examples, gay couples sometimes aren't allowed to visit their dying partner's in the ICU because they technically aren't considered "family," Money can be an issue if one person dies as well.
And up until the last decade, the military was insanely draconian when it came to gay service members.
>>343944219
Is not.
>>343939757
make a good character and either don't hint at their sexuality or only hint at it a little where it's hardly noticable
Like with Gobber in How to train your dragon
>>343944308
I understand that sexuality is not a protected class, but that also means that heterosexuality is not protected.
Meaning that LGBT orientations and heterosexuals are not protected from being fired on the basis of sexuality.
>>343944380
They could get those, though.
Honestly if I was writing a gay character that I would want to be liked
>Make him sort of a closeted gay stereotype from the very beginning, but play it for laughs.
>Make him say things like "Wow I bet she has a giant puss" and other things straight guys would never say when they are oguling women.
>Make him likable through out though, don't just make him a grandstand for progressive values. He is not the arbiter of morals, he is not the smartest of the group, he makes just as much mistakes as everyone else.
>the big coming out moment will not be this emotional thing for everyone else, because 1. we already knew and 2. it was never that big of a deal to begin with, we always just accepted him for who he was.
>>343944565
>gays are extremely promiscuous
Not really. It's just that the few that go overboard go WAY overboard. Straights aren't really any different. Most people don't know the value of a committed relationship.
>>343944596
>tackling the gay struggle
You do understand that you'll just get a Bioshock Infinite situation where "The struggle" is basically a shallow theme that they reference once or twice for critic points, right?
>>343941165
Autism
>>343944565
Not him, but if gays want to subject themselves to the same misery of shackled to someone until death or divorce like straight people do, then I say let them have at that insanity.
Same with the military. If they're dumb enough to want to go die on some godforsaken rock for the bottom line of your nation's elite, then go nuts.
>>343944565
>gays are extremely promiscuous
That's why you have to find a somewhat feminine guy who is denial about his sexuality, and eventually get him to open up to you alone and enjoy a monogamous relationship with him.
>>343944646
No one has ever been fired for being straight
>>343944802
Don't talk to me about that fucking game, jesus christ what a turd.
>>343944308
Wut?
You realize that unless your employer is a religious whackjob working for a private, non-government funded religious organization, you are legally completely safe, right?
I mean, sure, there's the possibility you could get fired anyway from a more normal job--but then you have every right to sue, because your boss just broke the law.
Seriously dude, what's your source for information? Because I wouldn't rely on it so heavily if I were you.
>>343944652
With a lot more legal hoops and paperwork that could take months or years, versus a quick courthouse marriage they could get done in 30 minutes.
And even then, I don't think you can cheaply set up a binding Power Of Attorney like you can with marriage.
>>343939757
Ask Hideo Kojima.
>just hide the fact that he's gay
>also don't put him in any slightly sexual situation ever because his gayness might come up
>>343944725
What is Xandir from Drawn Together
>>343944596
your dad sounds cool
here have some iridescence
>>343944181
>>their gayness should not be their primary character trait
>>their gayness should not be brought up unless the player pushes the issue and/or it's plot relevant
But if it ever actually is relevant to that character's plot people conclude that that is their primary trait. And I can't think of many legitimate cases of gayness being a character's primary trait outside of Japanese gag characters and Traynor from ME3.
>>343944896
Not guy, just Big Bossexual
>>343944389
Beat it, normalfag >>>/r9k/
>>343942221
lol you're so butthurt
Remember when /v/ had a collective meltdown over women, people of colour, and lgbt people being put into games and lashed out with 'make your own shit!!' And now they are and you're still melting down?
>>343944976
>just a Russian taunt
>>343944380
It's bullshit and I think gay people are insane for wanting marriage.
>>343944615
>>343944085
Is it just me, or does nearly every single rainbow cake image only have 6 colors?
>>343944909
>also don't put him in any slightly sexual situation ever because his gayness might come up
But that's the opposite if what you should do. You need an extremely provocative slut who can get guys wrapped around her finger, and then have her get shut the fuck down because the character is gay.
>>343944768
>few
>28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners
>79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers
>Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500
No thanks I'd rather not
>>343944615
that actually looks so fun to eat
good thing I'm a gigantic child so multicolored things amuse me.
>>343939757
You don't. Gays aren't people.
>>343944909
If it's a sexual situation then of course it makes sense for his gayness to come up. It's directly relevant. What most of /v/ argues against is Boodrolands 2 sexuality confessions everywhere style writing, during side quests that have nothing to do with it.
>>343944909
except nobody said that retard. Just dont rail people over the head with the fact that the character is gay. There is plenty of examples in the thread.
Bill from TLOU is also a good example
>>343945054
Then you don't know all the automatic benefits being married gives.
>>343944725
I kinda always wanted to make a love triangle situation if I ever made a game
>Main character obviously likes a girl
>Girl likes some other guy
>The guy is in the closet gay for the main character
>If you're good enough friends with him, he'll confess and ask you to help him tell the girl he's gay
>You can choose if you want to be with the girl or the guy
I thought it could be interesting.
>>343944565
>gays are extremely promiscuous
It's more like men in general have a really high libido and without an attraction to women, who have a far lower libido, to balance that out they have way more sex than they would otherwise have.
>>343944872
Plenty of states have no laws against firing someone based on their sexuality.
>>343944865
I agree that LGBT persons are infinitely more likely to be fired on the basis of sexuality in comparison to straight people, but in terms of rights, they are equal in the sense that they are both not a protected class. My question was about what rights that LGBT people do not have that their straight counterparts do.
>>343944565
No, MEN are extremely promiscuous. Women just dont put out.
>>343945208
>automatic benefits
Geared almost exclusively towards progeny.
>>343944725
That's happened fifty million times across every media. There's an etching of this exact scenario in these ancient caves fairly close to my house.
>>343941724
I'm half black and I act whiter than all of my white friends
>>343944960
He's great
Had to come out to him cuz of his cancer diagnosis, he said it made no difference to him and that he was happy I found someone.:(
>>343945078
>no cyan
>no white
>no ultraviolet
>no midnight green
dropped
>>343942660
I'm disappointed this wasn't what actually happened.
>>343945142
>1000
and they wonder why they get AIDS.
>>343945181
People are saying that, even if not the majority.
>>343944768
>not really
yes they are, they're far more promiscuous than heteros and this is why they have all kinds of problems with sexually transmitted diseases
>>343944565
That's because males, by nature, are extremely promiscuous. So when you get two together and there's no women involved they let their sex drives go wild.
Women won't tolerate though.
>>343945231
That's actually kinda interesting.
You model him directly after the OP
>>343945296
Yeah, Power of Attorney and the ability to visit them in the hospital/decide medical care for their spouse sure helps people make babies.
>>343945271
And I gave you a huge list of them. Third reply m8
>>343944865
>No one has ever been fired for being straight
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=man+fired+for+being+straight
>>343945326
a hug for you
>>343945383
Then why the hell are you giving the minority the time of day?
>>343945382
Do you actually believe over 1 in 4 gay men have fucked over a THOUSAND DIFFERENT DUDES in their lives? You can't be that dumb
Don't shoehorn it. Don't make it their entire identity. Skip the transparent attempts at pushing a message of acceptance - that's just uninspired. Don't write in an anti-gay antagonist for the sake of identity politics.
In short, if you haven't written a sex scene already, the character's sexuality should be an afterthought, if thought of at all.
>>343939757
Eh. Depends on how realistic the story's meant to be.
If games in an anime style always have female characters having perfect bods, make the character seem totally ungay and normal.
If you're going for realism, well, you should be able to tell on some level that the chaarcter is gay if there's voiceacting and such.
irl, gay people do have a brain of the opposite gender. But this doesn't mean making a gay male totally female. Gay people are often somewhat androgynous.
For instance a gay male might have typical male interests, but might have a gay lisp, more feminine movements, etc.
If you really want to go for realism, give them increased empathy and make them have balanced views. Gay people are unusually more able to look at things from multiple angles and understand/analyze situations well. But at the smae time don't shill being gay like you have a leftist agenda.
This is really just a basic guideline, of course, gay people irl are all very different but these are some common traits that they share.
Really, the main bulk of their character should just be original, unique character traits.
Make them clumsy, shy, angry, happy, good, evil, do whatever you want, and really, do WHATEVER you want if it's not meant to be realistic.
>>343945439
They do, it's geared towards keeping the family together for the benefit of the kid.
>>343944565
>>343944768
>>343945142
Men like sex more than women do.
But heterossexual men can't have more and more open sex than women, because they need a woman to have sex.
Gay men don't need women so they have sex as much as their male libido demands.
It's not complicated.
>>343945396
Reminds me of my mother's lesbian friend saying that with her partner, the passion and desire for sex is just gone
And all i think is "boy if you two were dudes that literally would never happen ever"
>>343944972
>outside of Japanese gag characters and any homosexual character in any modern Bioware game
fixed that for you
>>343939757
Make being gay part of their identity rather than being their primary character trait.
AKA just write them the same way you do all your other characters but if at any point their sexual preference or relations come up just make it same sex. Unless you're writing a sleazed out AIDs spreader being 'gay' should be at the end of a long list of things about the character.
>>343945567
>gay people have the brain of the opposite gender
Uh no. What? Where did you even get this idea?
>>343945302
Cliques are Cliques for a reason
Because people like likable characters, and only a certain amount of traits are likable.
>>343945231
I wouldn't mind that in a game
>>343945528
there's probably like 50 million gays on earth so i don't see how that's impossible.
>>343945238
>>343945289
that doesn't matter
the point is that those people have sex with 500 people, and they're oppressed by society that doesn't allow them to marry? You realize this isn't about them wanting to marry, right? Once gay marriage passes, people will want marriages of 2 men with 3 women and the whole concept of family will be thrown in the trash bin
>>343939757
Make them actually likable rather than the one-dimensional "look at me I'm gay so progressive right?" token characters.
Or as comic relief.
>>343945586
And yet, a man and a woman who are both sterile get them too.
>but they can adopt
Surprise cockfag, what do think gays want to be able to do but are largely prohibited from doing?
>>343944085
Blue is the least appealing food color. In fact that entire cake's design is based on worthless food coloring.
...there's a relevant allegory in there somewhere.
>>343945271
Being a member of a majority group has inherent benefits. De facto protection from being fired based on your sexuality is one of them, even though the law technically doesn't state that.
>>343945604
Maybe at some point you say
>"hmmm, I think 50 people was enough, maybe I should stop now"
It's not a libido when you reach triple or quadruple numbers
>>343945439
You can give a random hobo power of attorney.
>>343945782
>implying I think sterile people should get married
>>343945613
>the passion and desire for sex is just gone
thats not entirely true
some lesbian women out there, their libido is like a tempest
not talking about the dykes either
>>343945728
Yeah over a quarter of gay men wake up and make it their goal to suck a thousand different dicks in their lifetimes. Definitely. For sure. This is 100% believable. Come on dude use some very basic critical thinking here
>>343945386
If women were willing to fuck in dirty bathrooms without condoms straight men would be just as promiscuous. Women are literally the only thing center keeping men from going full Sodom and Gomorrah.
>>343945817
With a complicated legal process that you have to set up beforehand. Spouses are legally assumed to have that power at all times.
>>343939757
just make them casually gay
don't make a big deal about it, don't make it their only discernable trait
just make a normal character but if romantic shit happens make it gay
>>343940237
This x1000000
A completely normal character. Who just happens to be attracted to guys.
>>343945604
This
It's not rocket science.
>>343945735
The concept of family was thrown in the trash bin the moment divorces became widespread.
>>343945548
>Don't write in an anti-gay antagonist
This is something I hate, whenever there's a character that doesn't like gay people it's 100% obvious they're supposed to be bad.
>>343945843
>Thinking sterile people shouldn't be allowed to get married
That's just retarded.
>>343945386
Yeah, I'm gay and I'm personally not promiscuous, but lots of gay guys are. By percentage compared to straight people they're drastically more promiscuous.
It's not homophobic or anti-gay to point it out, it's just a fact. Denying it is ridiculous.
>>343939757
Create the character first, tack on the "gay" part at the end.
>>343945845
You know the long-standing theory that Motoko was not originally a chick before she got her cyborg body, right?
Honestly I never minded gay characters in games until BioWare came along with the "dude im so gay please respect me" writing in every game since ME3.
Fuck them.
>>343940461
This.
>>343946030
oh boy here we go again
>>343945995
This isn't very smart either. To deny that the gay experience is different from the hetero one is just dumb.
>>343945969
In a system built to incentivize and support the rearing o children, what's the benefit of allowing those that can't reproduce to partake of it? Frankly I don't understand the obsession of marriage outside of a desire to have kids.
>>343945843
Monogamous devoted couples in societies have been proven to have societal benefits, including but not limited too lower crime rate and political stability.
Unless you can prove that gays getting marriage some how weakens straights getting married than gays should be allowed to get married for the betterment of society.
>>343945809
>50
Is that supposed to be a big deal?
>>343943482
BUT remove the chance of suicide if they get a good transition
>>343945845
>women with unusually high sex drives are often gay
Life, you cruel beast.
>>343945995
They did that with Hammerlock and it felt shoehorned as fuck
>>343945782
because gays adopting is child abuse
>>343946183
>monogamous devoted couples
You know you can do this outside of marriage, yes?
>>343945382
>>343945386
It's also because anal sex is far more effective at transmitting disease than vaginal sex, since anal sex causes much more tearing on both the giver and receiver
http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv
Assuming you are male, and you are having unprotected sex, and your sexual partner is HIV positive:
>If you're getting fucked in the ass, you have a roughly 1.4% chance of getting HIV
>If you're fucking someone else in the ass, you have a roughly 0.1% to 0.6% chance of getting HIV
>If you're fucking a chick in the vag, you have a roughly 0.04% chance of getting HIV. Yes, 0.04%.
>>343946189
More like if they can pass, but still keep it far higher than normal.
>>343945995
I kinda agree with you, I prefer when you make the character and him being gay is something he doesn't have to say, like just straight. like he gets hit on by girls and he just turns them down. if you wish to inquire about it he will say he is gay, but he never just says it.
>>343945879
if you had sex with a different person every day, you would get 365 partners in a year, or 1000 partners in a little under 3 years.
You're the one who seems to be retarded since you can't equate that this is over a lifetime, 50+ years.
>>343946171
It does when the setting has no ramifications for being gay which pretty much every video game setting has done.
You make them enemies in a psychiatric hospital, 'cause homosexuality is a mental illness.
>>343945698
It's true.
Where do you think the stereotypes come from?
Why do you think lesbians are portrayed as spikey dykes? Why do you think so many gay males are thought to be feminine and girly?
Because in general, many are, Many gay people are synonymous with the opposite gender.
This doesn't mean gay males are of the same intellect of women. Gay people are actually usually found within hgih-IQ pools.
>>343946303
Marriage is a state institution that comes with a ridiculous amount of benefits over just cohabitation, denying the right to marry for gay couples is just stupid as hell
>>343946171
> the gay experience
God dammit just fuck right off. No one gives a shit about how much dick you suck on a daily basis, being gay doesnt make you unique or special, and being gay needs to stop being used as a crutch for creating characters.
>>343946256
That's just women being women
When a gay person has a point to them being gay, not "oh yeah he's gay", only character like that off the top of my head is some dude from the newest Dragon Age
>>343946179
Not him but if that's the only thing that matters, why don't we just create literal baby factories? You think we can't produce 100x the births we have now in order to create massive armies and workforces if we wanted to?
>>343945995
Dont do this shit. If your just gonna tack on gay just for the hell of it, its most likely your gonna put random shit to signify "look player hes gay, just to remind you" into the writing since its more of an after tought at that point.
>>343946303
Yes but a state sponsorship does wonders just like it does in hetero relationships.
>>343945927
A signature isn't complicated. It's a witnessed legal document just like marriage.
You back-seat attorney.
Imagine you're filling out a multiple choice questionnaire while developing the character. Sexual orientation should be left blank until you've answered everything else. Choose a sexuality that fits the character, don't build a character around a sexuality. You do that and you end up with someone like Steve Cortez from Mass Effect. An uninteresting token.
>>343946351
Kinda like how you just announced to everyone that youre straight with that picture.
Except the opposite of that.
>>343946563STEVE!
>>343946179
>Frankly I don't understand the obsession of marriage outside of a desire to have kids.
Because you're autistic. People procreate without any heed for marriage, and people marry for love instead of childrearing.
>>343946413
Are you from a farm in the middle of the ocean? Did you get transgender people confused with gay people? And you're conflating stereotypes with reality? Feminine lesbian or masculine gay gay aren't oxymorons at all.
>>343945567
I'm a gay guy and I have none of that. Also, you're forgetting the fact homosexuality can happen due to multiple factors, both internal and external
how would you know they are gay if they didnt go around sucking dicks? did all the other characters tell you they were straight? kill yourself faggot.
>>343946464
Literal baby factories would be shit for actual child rearing. A married couple has a better chance to rear a well adjusted, productive kid. I don't want more reproduction, I want better reproduction.
>>343946451
The fact that discussion is happening is proof that the gay experience is different though! Don't you see the dozens of people in this thread attempting to argue against even the basic humanity of gay people? That really does not ever happen to straights.
>>343945635
Sera and Dorian from DAI were not like that. I didn't really like either of their personalities much and the game was not great but they both had traits that were more important than being gay. A scatter-brained and scrappy rouge and a wisecracking exile with good intentions. Their gayness certainly wasn't a primary trait so much as being a Josh Whedon character was.
>>343946638
>did all the other characters tell you they were straight?
Most straight characters make it obnoxiously obvious that they're straight. You just don't notice it because of your extreme bias.
>>343946637
>I'm a gay guy
Me too.
High five.
>>343945845
Statistically speaking, lesbians have WAY less sex than gay men and less sex than straight couples as well.
Sorry to destroy your fantasies.
>>343939757
The same way 85% of SoL anime sells now days.
Homosexual subtext without going full homo.
Gay characters don't just "happen" to be gay. Every character, regardless of their sex or skin color or disposition towards hamburgers, is created from nothing. Every single thing about them is a deliberate decision that is made because of what the writer wants, they don't come about naturally. When a character is gay, he has been decided to be gay by someone and the only way to reveal that to the audience is by purposive bending of the way a story is told so that the author can relay that information to you.
Every single gay character is forced. This doesn't mean a gay character can't be written well, but please stop with this "character who just happens to be gay"
The reason Arcade Gannon is a well recieved faggot is not BECAUSE he is a character who also is a faggot, but because his faggotry influences his perception and position on things going on in the wasteland that seperate his purpose as a character from others. THIS is how you write homos, by making their homosexual serve a narrative purpose, not writing them for the sake of having a fag or giving a character a quirk.
How do you properly create a villainous gay character?
>>343946795
>You just don't notice it because of your extreme bias.
Does it count as bias if the reason hes biased because its so natural to him he doesn't have a reason to notice it?
>>343941724
Acting """white""" isn't a thing you moron.
>>343946808
>Statistically speaking
ahh
>not entirely true
thanks for missing my point
>>343946614
>people procreate without any heed for marriage
To their own disadvantage
>and people marry for love instead of child rearing
What's the point? Just to say you're fucking married?
>>343946629
Stereotypes exist because they have a significant correspondence with reality in most cases. Not that guy, just throwing it out there.
>>343946519
>>343946245
You misunderstand. Tons of gay characters use their homosexuality to define who they are. The best gay characters (Arcade Ganon in FNV for example) doesnt come off as gay at all until you inquire further. He has his own personality, beliefs, opinions, etc. That fact that he likes men is only one, small part of who he is.
Too many gay characters are so blatantly gay, and constantly remind you that they are gay, and it ends up just being annoying as fuck.
>>343946808
That's because lesbians can't have sex which makes it's the purest form of love.
>>343946865
Flamboyant as fuck. It's been done many times before, but they always make for the best characters.
>>343946808
I'm a lesbian and I've been married 6 years now. My wife and I have sex about 3 times a week. Is that below average versus straight couples?
>>343946865
Make him destroy all women and create a utopia free of the mental illness that is heterosexuality. Then give the player an option to side with him because he's obviously right.
>>343946902
Yes, that still counts as bias.
You give them AIDS or don't include them.
>>343946838
Fuck i hate straight people.
>>343946931
>>343946981
Wait a minute
>>343946865
IT WAS ME
DIO!
>>343946919
>What's the point? Just to say you're fucking married?
Yes? That you're willing to join together in a union together and live your lives as one?
Are you seriously autisitic enough to not understand the concept of marrying for love?
>>343946795
That was the most tumblr thing I've ever read on 4chan
No, you don't notice how "obnoxiously obvious" straight characters are because they're not written in as tokens and they have character beyond their sexuality. Hipsters have taken over the storywriting part of video games and they totally shove a gay character's gayness all over the screen as if it's the entire point of the character's existence.
>>343946905
It's called acting human, you nigger.
>>343946981
>statistics
>>343946931
3D love is inherently impure
>>343943671
why you gotta bee like that?
>>343946030
This is shit bait at this point. We see her as a little girl before she ever gets rekt in the plane crash.
>>343946902
There's a word for this that starts with a P and massively triggers /v/ and it's /pol/ contingent.
>>343946312
>>If you're getting fucked in the ass, you have a roughly 1.4% chance of getting HIV
>>If you're fucking someone else in the ass, you have a roughly 0.1% to 0.6% chance of getting HIV
These are way better chances than I thought based on how everyone talks about it. I think I'll stop with the rubbers since I'm not even close to the triple digits
>>343941165
Fuck milo
>>343946451
Well it is really, different anon here.
It's just unrealistic to have a gay person enter relationships in the same way as a straight person in fiction. The dynamic is just different, for most anyway. Males and female=opposites.
This just isn't true for gays. Male and male=both feminine, not opposites, doing it for sex rather than emotional benefit. Not all gays are like this but, this is the norm.
>>343946865
The overly flamboyant villain is already a pretty common trope.
>>343947132
Potatoes?
>>343946919
>What's the point
State Benefits
Social PressureA paper declaring that if you want to leave me you are gonna have to fight hell and make and it is going to be really inconvenient.
>>343940237
he was gay?
>>343947058
>letting yourself get tied up in a pointless societal fascination
Yeah man "We've been together for X years" is definitely more significant than "We're married"
OITNB actually had a pretty good gay character with the captain of the guard. he only brought it up since he felt piper was trying to flirt with him.
>>343947159
DELETE THIS
>>343947159
Close!
>>343947195
Uh switch my sarcastic statement around in your mind.
>>343947060
Saying they have character "beyond" their sexuality doesn't mean it can't be obvious they're straight. You clearly just dont even think about it.
>>343946981
I think your average is below the lesbian couple average.
Then again i don't have the statistics specific toL O N D O N
>>343947034
She is either trans or lying to herself.
It is physically impossible for two girls to have sex, it's just mutual masturbation. If two guys frotted till they came we wouldn't call it sex.
>>343947060
>because they're not written in as tokens
Yes they are. Do you have any idea how many token womanizer characters there are in fiction? Not to mention all the characters that go 'WOAH BOOBIES" every time there's a woman on screen. It's completely obnoxious, and far more prevalent that you're willing to admit because you turn a blind eye to things that you can relate to.
>>343946981
hello where are the proofs
>>343939757
write the character first, then just add that they're gay, or don't, it really doesn't matter for most games what sexuality they are
how to improperly do it is to decide they're gay before anything and build a character around that fact.
>>343947338
I meant above
>>343947326
It shouldn't be something to think about. "Oh this character is gay," and move the fuck on. But no. They force a reminder every chance they get.
>>343947060
>Implying there aren't characters that are literally "DUDE LOOK AT HOW STRAIGHT I AM"
Hell, Mario's entire motivation is rescuing his girlfriend. Mario is an obnoxiously obvious straight character.
>>343946701
>Literal baby factories would be shit for actual child rearing. A married couple has a better chance to rear a well adjusted, productive kid.
It's not about being well-adjusting, it's about creating people that from birth are trained and taught only how to do the one thing they are born for.
Imagine an army of half a billion people, all born for the sole purpose of being soldiers. The perfect well-oiled military machine, unquestioningly loyal because it's all they know. As long as you always have an enemy to point them towards, their existence is never one they will ponder upon and their lives are easily replaced when they fall, like a modern version of the Persian Immortals.
>>343946795
>most
Really? Because I can't come up with that many instances of it being brought up in most games. You don't get to insinuate that your opponent is blind to the truth without any examples.
>Arcade naively thinks anarcho-communism will be proven to be the best form of governance for New Vegas and urges the Courier to forsake joining any of the corrupt establishments and Free Vegas
>society ends up being nothing but endless turf/gang wars, and nobody gives a fuck about Arcade's opinion they just view the Followers of the Apocalypse's camp as neutral territory because they have an unwritten agreement to not kill the Doctors they need to keep patching their family soldiers back up
He's a pretty fun guy from a political viewpoint. He just also happens to be gay and has a bit of a complex over whether or not his parents would've considered him 'good enough' since the Enclave society didn't tolerate deviants; or, at least, not the crooked political leadership of the Enclave. Common soldiers didn't give a fuck bro
>>343947480
fuck off, anita
>>343947470
For you it isn't something to think about because your heterosexuality is a total natural part of your life youve never had to ponder why you have.
>>343946629
I'm sorry but I have NEVER met a gay person who isn't similar to the other gender.
Why do you think straight acting is a thing? Why do you think the term gaydar exists?
Because gay people display characteristics of the opposite gender. I have never even seen irl, even in the media, a masculine gay.
And no one knows why people turn out gay.
>>343947060
>No, you don't notice how "obnoxiously obvious" straight characters
Duke Nukem
Make him a muscled sculpture of a man with no body hair, who is only gay for others like himself.
You know i'm really kind of curious what the percentage of straight and gay video game, tv show, and movie characters are.
And I want to know that percentage assuming that, if no sexuality is implied, it would be stated as N/A or asexual. It's so heteronormative to just assume they are straight.
>>343947518
>trying to uniformly train humans in an impersonal manner
Good luck with your failing program fag. Even the army modifies its training on a person by person basis
>>343939757
it's ez
>dyed hair
>feminine features
>camp voice
>scarf
>flanter with every male character
>flat cap (opt.)
>>343939757
>make a good character
>make them gay
That's it. Maybe make mention of it once or twice, but don't make it their defining feature.
>>343947373
But the yuri market is based on straight males who only care about cute appearances which is pretty shallow and being shallow isnt pure.
>>343947602
Dude, no. Just stop. You clearly haven't actually met any gay people in real life. Just stop.
>>343947602
>I'm sorry but I have NEVER met a gay person who isn't similar to the other gender.
Graham Chapman.
But then he died long before you were born.
Talk whatever shit you want about Life is Strange, but they got the queer characters down. It was questionable until explicitly stated. You got to know the character before the sexuality.
At least that's how I remember it. Only played it once.
Literally like this
>>343947418
this is not how you write ANY character, gay or not
Always define their purpose in the narrative first or else you will be writing fanfiction shounenshit drivel for retards, not an intelligent story
>>343947546
It was just an example. Mario's entire personality is centered around how straight he is.
>>343939757
As a random nameless NPC that just spouts one line of dialogue.
>>343947480
For real though how many characters are portrayed as irresistable to women and brag about how many they fugged but if it's a dude bragging about how many dudes he fugged it's STOP SHOVING GAY DOWN MY THROAT THEY SHOULDN'T MAKE GAY CHARACTERS THE GAY CHARACTER
>>343947602
>I'm sorry but I have NEVER met a gay person who isn't similar to the other gender.
Toupee fallacy.
I'd treat a gay character like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqjDQ9h30Fc
>>343939757
Name it OP
>>343947786
No, Mario's personality is centered around racist Italian stereotypes
>>343947706
Still doesn't change the fact that girls can't have sex.
>>343947662
As Stalin once said, quantity is a quality all on its own. If you have 500 million people ready to just throw into the meat grinder at all times, it quite honestly doesn't matter how well they fight. You can win through sheer attrition.
>>343947885
I dont think girls would agree with you there.
>>343946865
You don't. Gays can do no wrong. Can't have a black villain, either. Or a woman. Villain must be a straight, white man.
>>343947735
>queer
you know that genderfluid demishit stuff is all bullshit right its just retards who like wearing pants now and then
>>343947885
I sure like to watch them try, though.
> it's a yuru thread
Where do faggots come from /v/?
>>343947723
What? How is that any sort of counter argument? Please, explain to me, straight acting, why that is a thing, gay lisps, gaydars.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/
Explain that away with your "you've just never met them".I have met PLENTY of gay people in real life to know that this is for the most part, true.
>>343947786
Mario's personality is centered around heroism, not Peach. Heroism and stomping his enemies to death.
>>343947936
yeah and look at the shithole russia is
>>343948006
Hawaii.
>>343948006
They come from /v/.
>>343947602
You probably have and you never knew about it.
>>343947976
So queer was the wrong word to use. Jesus. Nice knee-jerk reaction to a single word. There was none of that in the game you fucking idiot.
>>343946981
I'm a gay man and my husband and I have been married about 2 years now, we generally have sex 2-3 times a day depending on how much free time we have. Couldn't tell you about straights though :^)
>>343941165
>basically I want Milo in a video game.
http://postal.wikia.com/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos
http://riffraffgames.com/milotosser/
>>343940858
2D faggotry is cute, most things 3D are fake and disgusting.
>>343947936
That worked out well for them, didn't it?
>>343947958
Yes and?
If I rubbed weiners with a guy tomorrow I would still be a virgin, most people would agree that i'm a virgin. Women don't get a special pass just because they don't have the tools to complete an act on there own.
>>343948006
social isolation and uncle's willy
>>343948173
>I'm a gay man
Me too high five.
>>343943764
One of the characters casually mentions he has a boyfriend at the end of the film. You have no idea that he's gay till he mentions it in passing. "You and my boyfriend would really get along well." Or something to that effect. The girl he says it to was crushing on him really hard the entire film.
>>343948023
That's a retcon. In Donkey Kong and Super Mario Bros., all we knew about Mario was that he was rescuing Pauline/Peach. It wasn't until later that they shoved the heroism stuff in.
I can understand being gay, hell I can even understand being trans as a type of extreme body dysmorphia, but where does this whole "genderfluid" and "there is more than 2 genders" nonsense come from?
>>343940858
Is he really gay?
>>343948213
>>343948080
Yes, it did. They won WW2 by just throwing the Russians into a meatgrinder to the point that it clogged the German war machine with their bodies.
>>343947139
I can't, he only likes black guys
>>343948018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_lisp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaydar
Seriously, are we just going to deny that a lot of gay people are indeed, feminine? Look at e-celebs like Twaimz, Tyler Oakley, etc, all fem as fuck.
If gays are some sort of mysterious unexplainable force that you seriously need to approach an indonesian wood carving forum for advice on how to represent them then just don't have gays in your game because it's obviously going to make you uncomfortable.
If you're just shitposting then don't do that either.
>>343948287
Everyone is in a race to see who's more oppressed than the next group, even if they have to make up shit.
Look what happened at Gay Pride Toronto. Perfect example.
> there are gays itt
>>343948287
Because being a bisexual tranny is too mainstream.
Seriously. That's what it is. They don't feel special or unique enough so they start grasping for individuality points.
>>343947103
sorry honey, I know it stings but the truth will stick with you so accept it. Buzz Buzz and B-Y-E, Bye.
>>343948284
Rescuing her from a giant ape is heroic in and of itself. That motherfucker had barrels and fire at his command.
>>343948287
Delusion, mostly. The need to stand out.
>>343947976
>>343939757
>>343947976
Queer as been a term to describe gays for decades, you fucking homo.
make a straight character but they like cock/pussy instead of pussy/cock.
>>343948018
I bet you believe shit like finger ratios too
Just because a lot of gays are feminine doesn't mean all of them are. That's like saying all black people are ghettofags.
>>343948331
Fang is LITERALLY "draw a guy, call it a girl" because Fang was outright meant to be a dude before they decided they wanted the party to be 3 girls and 3 guys
>You make a character not based around sexuality
>give him a Boyfriend
Pretty much dont draw attention to it, dont make the story about them being oppressed for being gay. Really just having it as a minor trait at best
Same thing with transpeople. while there is little reason to actually include them except for pandering it would be fine if it was just added info that doesnt really matter to the character like something in a note or text entry. However if they literally made a "the tranny" or "the gay" character there is no excuse
>tfw in a loving monogamous relationship with another guy and we were both virgins before we fugged
:3 I am the 1%
>>343948516
COCKPUSSY
PUSSYCOCK
>>343947885
but they can, fingers are a thing
here, a preview of a documentary of lesbians abusing girls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjKPRWgDk2o
Try to find it if you can, it's very good and quite surprising, since you often hear that only men can rape.
>>343940941
every game I play, I hope for the choice of choosing to be gay. I always choose gay for my character. If I don't see the choice, it's not gonna be a great game to me. it's about choices, I don't play video games to be told what to do, I play them to escape and live in a world where I can choose who and what I want to be. I'm straight in life, but in video games, maybe I want to be gay. you're biased and your uncle is an idiot. god isn't real as well, and you're probably in the closet.
>>343948173
That's.. Close to what my wife and I had in our earlier years but we're just older now (we're both 32) so we're usually a little too tired to bang 3 times a day, Jesus
>>343948287
It comes from being so fat people can't tell what gender you are
>>343948428
Come over to our side honey, it's fabulous.
make him a charming skelly
>>343948608
That's cute. I hope I find something similar someday.
>>343948574
No Fang is
>draw a guy
>call it a guy
>change your mind
>add tits
>call it a girl
>>343948219
Do you think we wear mittens all the time?
You just fucking do it
No need to announce it, but at the same time, you it shouldn't have to be added AFTER public outcry cause then it's an afterthought
>>343942658
He presents himself as Gay Tony as part of the identity he sets himself up with for his status in Liberty City, his actual character is a frantic moron with a drug problem who puts himself in shit situations that are entertaining
>>343948725
took me 8 years to find him, never lose hope though
>>343948608
If young relationship, brace for impact.
>>343939757
>this thread hits the bump limit every time
You people really are faggots.
>>343948705
How did they get that much cum. How long did that take? This isn't anything like my trap porn where they instantly get an entire intestinal tract full of baby sauce.
>>343948598
there's a ton of characters like that
i know this because /v/ always screenshots every instance a male character says "my husband/boyfriend..." and complains about it
Whatever happened to the old days of gay characters in videogames, where they all acted like they just got home from a pride parade?
Why does only Japan still do this? It's not like we don't have pride parades in the states? Hell there was one last week.
>>343948543
I'm not saying ALL of them are. There's a lot of variation. Some people can be fully feminine, some more on the androgynous side.
But it's very rare to get a gay who seems perfectly straight.
And anyway, you're claim is less valid unless you can actually pull up some evidence to the contrary.
I know my experience isn't relevant but, truly, I have never witnessed a gay who doesn't seem like the opposite gender, at least a little bit. And the evidence only supports my experience.
>>343948816
we are both out of our teens
>>343948617
That's molestation.
>>343948756
No but if a guy jerked me off and I jerked him off we would still be virgins, mittens or no.
>>343948507
Yes, it was heroic, but he only did it to get Pauline back. As opposed to modern Mario who will try to push Bowser's shit in regardless of whether he kidnapped Peach because Bowser is evil and Mario is good.
>>343948867
Political Correctness anon
>>343948705
What in the fuck is that
>>343948717
Her quests were great,she is bisexual though, maybe a pedophile and zoophile too.
>>343948287
The only "no gender" things I get are failures who don't want any genitals and have dysmorphia based on that. Like cool you want to be smooth as a Barbie doll down there good luck with that.
>>343948287
It's a bunch of shitheads who don't like labels, yet INSIST on labeling the two sexes by their social norms, and thus, when they want to do something girly, they're a girl/gay/whatever.
I don't know why they won't just take their own advice and stop trying to label MAN = LIFT HEAVY THINGS DOESNT LIKE CRYING and WOMEN = EMOTIONAL IRRATIONAL ETC
>>343941878
this faggot got it right
>>343940268
Yeah but that dude being gay was literally a punchline
>>343948972
How is it political correctness? Last I checked, gays are the ones who set up and march in those parades! It wasn't straight people's idea.
Women can't have sex?
So have I been watching CGI porn this whole time? Wow. Whoever's doing that should pursue a career in Hollywood.
>>343948971
She needed saving though, a giant ape was going to fuck her to death. Also Mario leaves Bowser alone most of the time, until Bowser decides he wants to fuck shit up.
Write a story that has nothing to do with romance and sexuality. Make all the characters three-dimensional and fleshed-out.
When you're done, put the names of every single character in your story in a hat and draw names until you have roughly 2% of the total characters. The characters you drew are now gay. Tweak the story slightly based on what would make sense while still keeping those characters three-dimensional.
>>343948574
>>343948735
Yeah and it's successful because none of the characters in FFXIII have anything to do with their gender (except maybe Snow).
She ends up being a great gay character, even if it was a total accident.
>>343939757
just be yourself
I was hoping this thread would have husbandos.
>>343948410
What happened?
>>343948287
Fuck, I've seen images saying "My gender is not defined by my genitals" now that is where it gets fucked up to the point of have to belive it's a ruse
>>343948867
Japan really doesn't like gay people.
They already have a birth-rate problem and gays.....uhhhhh
>>343948820
They collected it from a bunch of people over a course of weeks/months before shooting the movie.
Write a character, have them fall in love with a same-sex character late in the story. Or just give 'em one casual sex scene. That gets the message across and you don't need to drone on it.
>>343949239
>Japan really doesn't like gay people.
Actually gays they don't have that much of a problem with. It has historical basis in their society (admittedly the reason is from massive levels of misogyny, not actually giving a shit that you're gay), they don't care as long as you have a kid anyway.
It's lesbians they don't like.
>>343949294
>room temperature cum
>>343949202
God damn, that was such a good movie.
>>343948934
Well, I'm gay and as far as I can tell I don't have the traits most other fags have. My ring finger is longer than my index too.
>>343949134
Mario would not have saved her if she wasn't his girlfriend.
Also, in the M&L series they definitely beat up Bowser for no purpose besides to beat him up.
>>343948867
Japan isn't afraid to use stereotypes and not be politically correct. They think of gay characters as a joke, somewhat. While the west has to make gay character politically correct. Japan also just doesn't like gay people in general, the only Japanese person I can think of that really is fine with gays is Shigesato Itoi.
As a literal faggot I prefer how the Japanese make gay characters, they're always more fun then the west's.
>>343942871
there are 7 billion people, I think its ok to slow down a little and let people choose their partners and live their lives. they can always get surrogate mothers. and what are you gonna say when test tube babies come along? the straight agenda will fall at that point, because as we all know men hate women, and vice versa. it's the stigma behind it all that keep people straight. and religion.
>>343949402
It was pretty good, but I think it got a little too weird around the end.
>>343949239
I thought it was more that they don't get gay people. Don't they all view them as "okama", like they're all lgbt crazy and left wing or something?
That's what I gathered from videos on it, though that's not much.
It's not a moral conflict, more just something they're not used to/don't want to give it attention.
>>343949423
>would not have saved her if she wasn't his girlfriend
[CITATION NEEDED]
Jumpman wouldn't just let some poor girl get monkey trouble'd
I really liked Jack Harkness because he was just a gay who liked fucking guys. He was pretty promiscuous until he fell for a member of his team, who then promptly died with the rest of said team.
Gay was just a part of his character. Not really that important in comparison to the fact that Jack can't fucking die.
>>343949423
>Mario would not have saved her if she wasn't his girlfriend.
Then explain Luigi
>>343949097
I don't get what is so hard to understand with you people.
Rubbing vagina's don't count, because rubbing two body parts doesn't make sense to call sex, since we don't do the same thing about two penises touching
Using fingers don't count, because the legality of letting your doctor finger bang you to check for cancer wouldn't check out.
and no one considers oral sex really sex, you have to be pretty desperate to say you are no longer a virgin just because you got head.
Lesbians are the most permavirgin people on the planet, it's not a problem or something to be ashamed on, but embraced for how beautiful it is.
>>343949370
>It has historical basis in their society
Like pic related?
I can see why they don't like dikes, they're always bitches that get mad at the littlest things.
>>343949462
Yeah, you're right. It would have been better if it just stayed a feel good movie throughout.
>>343941724
Sexuality =/= race.
Also gay people don't need to be flaming San Francisco stereotypes anymore than black people as complete thugs.
>>343942805
>>343943278
People ITT made it clear they don't care if a characters says they're gay. They just don't want either A.) exaggerated stereotypes and/or the mention as their primary defining trait, because many IRL don't do that, or B.) only there for obvious Tumblr-points (ex: Watch Dogs 2).
This coming from a guy who has gay friends who say basically the same thing. They hate the gay-pride-tier flamers who flaunt their preference everywhere and expect special treatment.
>>343949595
I think she's pecked him a few times too, after being saved.
And let's not pretend the bros don't double up on Peach every now and then.
>>343949383
It was probably chilled at some point so it didn't completely rot but it's all separated and gross so who knows. Cum is always gross unless you're horny
>>343949595
What about him?
>>343939757
By making their sexuality extremely ambiguous and never explicitly stating anything
>>343941724
What can be defined as "acting white" as opposed to "acting black"?
>>343949628
Keep in mind Genji was written by a woman.
But no, the reason the samurai didn't have a problem with gays (as long as you fucked a chick anyway to produce an heir) is because they really, really, REALLY looked down on women, to the point that pederasty among the samurai class was tolerated basically on the basis of "ew, who would want to fuck something as lowly as a WOMAN for pleasure?"
Keep in mind that was not a widespread belief among the people, just that class at a certain time period.
>>343949498
It's the same as foreigners.
The youth mostly don't care but the elderly (who primarily control the government) are very serious about it.
>>343949925
>ew, who would want to fuck something as lowly as a WOMAN for pleasure?
Sounds like they had good taste.
>>343949748
On the fucking nose. Luigi gets jack shit from peach, he has his own princess anyways.
>>343949410
Look, I'm not ruling out that some gay people are exceptions to this rule, but, in general, it's true. Studies show this. But if you're different, cool. I just think it would be misrepresentative to make all gay characters seem really normal and straight, it's just so unnatural. Like if you really want to do it, fine, but I wouldn't find that character believable.
The worst is when straights play gays. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but, they just don't get how to sound gay. By all means play a gay character but make sure you understand that they usually speak differently to straights of the same gender.
>>343942821
What the fuck are even half of these things?
"demiromantic"? "demiboy"? "bigender"?
>>343945604
makes sense to me
>>343949873
Acting like the dad in Leave it to Beaver
>>343948717
Every companionexcept the hacker guyin dragonfall is god tier.
>>343948705
>poz cum
FUCKING WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS WILLINGLY
>>343949925
They had the right idea.
>>343950140
I'm gonna need a definition, friend.
>>343947480
The only one that comes to mind is Brucie in GTA4.
>>343949623
hey retard, when a doctor fingers someone he doesn't do it to cause pleasure
if a woman stimulates the other until the other has an orgasm, it's an entirely different story
how can you be this retarded
>>343950183
so i can my neg hole pozed, obviously
>>343950089
I believe they're terms in my Dungeon Master guide
>>343948717
She's gay? What a waste. Don't tell me the delicious orc-ish musclegirl is gay too.
>>343950060
I'm probably not the best person to talk about this since personally, I don't really like fems and I wish there were more guys like myself, but I guess you're right. Good luck getting writers to write an effeminate gay character that isn't a prancing fruit or a trap, though.
>>343949623
>and no one considers oral sex really sex
Tell that to Newt Gingrich and the Bill Clinton hearings
>>343949925
Samurai were fags in general, kinda like greeks.
>>343950271
So if a doctor with frostbite on his hands sticks his dick in my ass to check for cancer it isn't sex because it's not meant for pleasure?
Milo is a faggot both literally and figuratively
I'd just plagiarize Lord Joseph GobKnobbler
problem solved
>>343950376
>I guess you're right
He's not, he's just talking out of his ass. Campy gays aren't the majority, they're just the most obvious.
>>343950183
because :
>truvada exists so it's gross but safeish
>you don't care
>getting pozzed turns you on
>you're already poz
>you really need the money
Porn is a sad industry but it needs to exist so we can masturbate to it
>>343950325
>She's gay?
Bi.
>Don't tell me the delicious orc-ish musclegirl is gay too.
Don't worry, she isn'tthank god.
>>343950060
Are you retarded? I'm gay and I highly doubt you could pickit out from my voice or actions.
I just find guys attractive and stick my dick and or theirs in them or me. it's not my fucking personality for fuck sake
>>343950561
I'd agree with you but most if not all of the other gay people I know are effeminate to a degree.
>>343950247
It just means the most stereotypical, whitewashed, vanilla boring 50s dad that goes "aw shucks" and acts like what people think of as the harmless midwesterner stereotype.
>>343949224
>Black Lives Matter asks if can be a part of the parade
>Pride committee says yes because it's about inclusiveness
>before the parade starts, BLM sets up a protest right in front of the parade
>holds up the parade for a good while
>says they won't move until their demands are met
>one of their demands is that police be banned from having floats in the parade in the future because they contribute to systemic racism and shouldn't be celebrated
>Pride committee says that they'll look over them later just to get them out of the way
>>343948981
>What in the fuck is that
A guy getting a bunch of AIDS infected jizz shoved up his butt.
>maybe a pedophile and zoophile too
Okay what.
>>343950578
I think i'll stick to gay girls
>>343950838
Do mounties even kill black canadians?
>>343950089
It's retarded garbage that even gay people don't like. It's perpetuated by college students and professors and are even dumber than their students.
>>343950838
>gays have dealt with shit for the last couple millenia
>blacks have only had to really deal with shit since the triangle trade 500 years ago.
Let's be honest, blacks have nothing on gays when having to deal with shit.
>>343950838
>floats contribute to systematic racism
What
>>343949623
it's called sex because it's your sexes that are clashing together. when the sexes come together, it's an act of sex. it's isn't strictly penetration. stop being stupid. your sex is your genitals. you've got a penis, you've got a sex, you've got a vagina, you've got a sex. sex is the act of bringing them together. blow jobs arn't considerd sex because one of those isn't a sex organ, neither are handjobs, or finger blasting. when women trib, it's sex.
>>343950838
>no police floats
SHHEEEEEIT HOWS WES SUPOSE TA RUN IF DA PO-LEEC CAN FLY
>>343951020
Yes, there was one black Canadian who was waving around a knife on a street car in Toronto who was killed. Everyone defended him and said he was harmless because everyone ran away and he wasn't close enough to anyone to stab them.
>>343951042
Unless you're black AND gay, at which point you might as well just get the rope now
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