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>Discuss PC hardware
>Share builds or ask questions/advice on PC related things
>Ask ANY QUESTION related to PC no matter how stupid it is
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HOW BOUT THEM INDIE GAMES?
>>343930186
Stardew Valley is really nice.
What should I upgrade? and no I am fine with my current monitor.
>>343930437
get a SSD and a better gpu. maybe the 480rx
Get a 480 or a 1070 depending on the range of your budget
>>343930437
>6700K
>H170 mobo
Enjoy your wasted money and potential
Upgrade the gpu and get an ssd
Who /980ti/ here
Who /1440p 144hz/ here
>>343930437
Weak GPU. Like you bought a weak GPU to begin with which was a mistake so now it's aging fast, unless you are OK with it. The best overall upgrade is switching to an SSD. 500GB Samsung 850 EVOs go for like $120. Requires reinstalling windows but worth it for great day to day use. GPU is obviously the better upgrade for purely video games.
>>343930895
2x 780 and 1080p@144
LE 1070S AND 1080S STILL SOLD OUT
PLEASE BUY OUR FOUNDERS EDITION PLS PLS PLS ITS TOTTALLY NOT ARTIFICIAL LIMITATION SO WE CAN SELL U THE SAME EXACT SHIT FOR AN EXTRA 100 BUCKS LE
LOL XD MEME HAHA
FUCK
FUCKING
KILL
M
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Building my first PC, friends said it's fine, opinions?
Just built this as my first desktop in 12 years. Sucks cuz I kinda want to get a 1070.
>>343931298
>R9 200
which one do you have?
i am here with a R9 280X and everything runs still on high-ultra on FullHD
Built this 2 years ago.
>>343931610
R9 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
>>343928980
Anyway to make PC for 500$ or less and able to run games as good as xbone and ps4?
>>343931226
you're fine bro. thats a decent build will, run a lot of shit on ultra
could definitely go with a cheaper case though. if you plan utilizing steam and play games like GTA V or like to mod, get a bigger solid state. i have a 500gb and it filled quick
Anyone know how the i3-6300 or i3-6320 would perform on current AAA games?
amd cpu and nvidia graphics. it runs things really good
>>343930437
why the fuck did you buy a K cpu if you are going to buy a mobo that wont even allow overclocking.
you're a dumb dumb
>amd gpu
well no shit. dumb dumb would do this
>>343931226
wasting money getting the m.2
sata 3 ssd would be fine and cost half the price. btw dumbass you don't even need an aftermarket cpu cooler if you aren't overclocking...also bitfenix is shit, get fractal design
>>343932735
Vaffenculo
>>343932630
Move your finger out the way, love
>>343932735
not yours/10
>>343932735
howgirlstakepics.jpg
I'm getting a new fan tomorrow so don't worry about the cpu temp
Should I get an SSD first or GPU?
>>343928980
Building a bartop arcade.
Still haven't finished everything.
The hardware cost me about 200USD.
It has;
Intel G3258 (45USD)
ASUS H81M-C motherboard (30USD)
4GB DDR3 RAM (12USD)
Antec EarthWatts 500w PSU (15USD)
EVGA 750 Ti SC (70USD)
1TB WD Blue HDD (30USD)
>>343932609
make quick question
get bumped up by memes (a.k.a >>343932630
>>343932663 >>343932735)
>>343930186
Some are great. Most are shit. Kinda like all videogames in general tbqh.
I will be building my machine soon, will be using linux annd using a vm with hardware passthrough for windows games.
Does the amount of hyperthreads impact gaming performance when in a vm? I don't know if I should get a 6700k or a 5820k.
>>343933587
Um most vidya depends on your GPU. CPU just affects base loading along with your hard drive. Don't quote me on this but CPU doesn't really matter too much for gaming.
>>343933834
If all you're doing is gaming go for Skylake. Since you're using Linux and VMs, instead of dual-booting like a normal person, make sure you spend 50% more to get equivalent Windows performance.
>>343928980
would a 750Ti be enough if you aren't gonna be playing very demanding games?
>>343928980
Any good 1920 x 1200 monitors anyone has to recommend?
I'm trying to hold on to 16:10 for as long as I can, even with it starting to fizzle out.
Let's post best PC exclusives, I'll start, pic related
A good CPU to pair with a GTX 970 that's below $200?
>>343934238
How demanding is very demanding?
You should just google benchmarks for games you plan on playing.
>>343931095
Sad thing is, I'd buy an EVGA founder's edition and they're sold out fucking everywhere.
>>343934372
I see what you did there.
What did everyone buy during the sale?
I got:
Subnautica
Sleeping Dogs definitive edition
fault - milestone one
Cloudlands : VR Minigolf
Fantastic Contraption
Far Cry 4
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City
Grand Theft Auto IV
Job Simulator
The Fruit of Grisaia
The Lab
Tilt Brush
Windlands
>>343931226
Where is your Power Supply?
>>343934372
Implying_____________
isn't the best PC exclusive
So my friends helped me build a gayman pc three years ago, and it's still going strong. I have little idea what kind of maintenance or upkeep I need to do on the hardware though. I occasionally blow compressed air into the case to get rid of the dust, but stuff like applying thermal paste sounds less fool-proof.
What do I need to do to keep my computer in shape, and how do I avoid fucking it up?
>>343934747
Plus Rome1 Total War because I planned on playing it on my toaster portable, but it can't even run that acceptably.
http://www.pccomponentes.com/presupuesto.php?id=365619&name=pedo&procesador=68572;1&placa=67052;1&ventilador=99122;1&memoria=96974;1&disco=81096;1&disco2=0;1&torre=83733;1&fuentes=72338;1&tgrafica=101278;1&tsonido=0;1&lector=0;1&grabadora=0;1&monitor=0;1&teclado=0;1&raton=0;1&altavoces=0;1&sintonizadora=0;1&adaptador_red=0;1&instal_so=no;1&montado=no;1&so=0;1
rate this budget PC for less than 800€
>mfw I will NEVER be good at cable management
All I want is overwatch on max settings with 60fps
how Do I make it happen in less than two hundred dollars
>>343934747
MGR
Dark Souls 1
Deus Ex
Deus Ex HR
Batman Arkham City GOTY
Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY
Fallout NV Ultimate EditionHuniepop
>>343928980
Pullin the trigger on this when I get home
>>343935289
pretty sure a RX 480 should it
I'm good until 1080 TI comes along. Might get another SSD, actually.
Just tabbed out of overwatch. What should I upgrade?
>>343933080
>girl
>>343928980
>CPU
6700k
>Motherboard
Hero VIII
>GPU
MSI Radeon R9 290
>Cooling
Corsair H100i v2
Do you guys think I should save up and get a 1070 or a 1080?
Also I'm gonna invest and get a better ssd with more space
>>343935441
get a SSD
>>343935438
But the memes said that its not a good card!
(I dont know shit about this stuff but I saw some graphs that saids its not 2 good)
is there nothing better for that price point?
>>343935441
make sure there's a fire extinguisher in the vicinity of your case
>>343935549
depends.
the cards are really only worth it if you want 1440p or 4K.
>>343932849
you know the CPU doesn't come with a stock cooler right?
>>343935081
>>343935312
You guys did pretty good this year
>>343935356
is that an old price or something?
>>343935842
thanks, i'm new pretty new to PC gaming and mostly played fightan during 2009-2012 so this sale was a great way to catch up on games i missed
>>343935780
Well the R9 290 runs like an oven and isn't that great. Any ideas on a card that's better for less than a 1070 or 1080?
>>343934747
Fuck Technomancer, I fell for the LOL SPACE WITCHER meme.
>>343936092
the RX 480 should be fine, though wait for aftermarket editions
I built a gaming laptop as I am only ever home one day out of the week except to sleep.
Using i7 6920 chip, GTX 980M vid card and 32gb of ddr5 ram. 2tb hdd
>>343936260
>I built a GAMING LAPTOP
>>343936260
32GB of ram but no SSD?
What's the point of making a powerful gaming PC when you have no games for it?
what do i upgrade
ignore the 970.
Is there a CPU comfier than unlocked Sandy Bridge?
>>343936260
>built a gaming laptop
>"ddr5" ram
>2tb MECHANICAL HARD DISK DRIVE
>>343936552
Getting games for it of course
>>343936678
pic related
Switching teams once the 1070 comes down in price a bit.
- 24" Viewsonic flatscreen monitor
- Dell gaming mouse
- Windows Seven Ultimate
- Intel quadra processor
- Memory with 12 gigabytes of ram power
- One TERABYTE Hard Drive
- BluRay player
- Foxconn power supply with 400 wattage
- Sound Blaster sound card
- GE Force GT 520 video card
>>343936774
16 gigs of ram
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/br7zM8
My first build, so any input is greatly appreciated.
>>343936806
can you run SWTOR????????????
https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/169047-250-gaming-pc
xbox is better than a gaming pc for the same price, pc drones btfo
>>343936774
>>343936678
Smoke alarms.
>>343936685
>>343936727
>no arguments
>resort to memeposting
yep, I'm in /v/
>>343935015
That's more or less all of it. You can do some stress tests to check if everything is alright.
After 4-6 years change thermal paste on CPU and GPU. Buy thermal paste, clean the old one with rubbing alcohol and fibre sheet, apply small amount of new thermal paste.
Consider reinstalling the OS onto an SSD. You may also get a new GPU if you want better graphics after few years.
A well set up computer works for decades.
when is the rx 470 and 470 being released?
All I do is play WoW and herthstone
>>343936931
explain
>>343936774
maybe 16 gigs of ram and more storage
>>343928980
>>343928980
Is it true that pc master race spend $800 in a GPU to play Fez and 2d indie shit and MMOs?
P.S: I have a Xbox 360 RGH master race, 4TB of games, every game released from 2005-2015, all XBLA, almost all Xbox classics and Genesis, SNES and Mame emulator
Investiment: $319 + $70 for 2 limited edition chrome controllers(April 2014)
PS2 fat (PS1 compatible) every game on HDD
including jap and euro exclusives
Investiment: $49 + $25 Dual Shock 2 brand new(May 2014 bought in Japan)
With less than $400 I have 3000x more games than PC MASTER RACE
>>343936707
>>343936485
>>343936390
Ebin posts there m8's. Sorry for being a normalfag with a job and a non-neet life
>>343936491
I have a 256gb ssd
>>343935186
Corsair 500 case. The cube one..helps
I really need an SSD but ugh, the fucking effort of cloning windows annoys me.
>>343936892
building a $250 pc
>>343938352
Never clone windows, always do a clean install
>PCucks have to spend all the day posting their specs because no games to play
>>343937802
I have a job an am not a NEET and I know not to fall for gaming laptops. I guess you just don't have enough common sense not to throw away your money like that.
>>343935648
That's just the card for you. Why do you expect something high quality for so little money? What is wrong with you? If you are poor you CANNOT AFFORD CHEAP. Get 480 or get completely new rig, two options.
>>343934238
might as well wait for a 480
>>343939240
>Not playing n64,gamecube,xbox, ps2, dreamcast
>total pc cuck
>>343939001
>>343939240
Sonycucks spend all day making a post because they're using a controller.
>>343938831
The arcane sorcery i've used to get a few old games running might not survive a reinstall. Then again in theory there shouldn't be anything particularly stopping me simply cloning windows.
Then again for all that said i'm planning a total rebuild late this year/early next when zen and the next batch of gpus drop (plan to go balls out for 4k) and that will require a full reinstall, so I might as well wait until then for an SSD.
Just have to 1) remember which key I used to activate windows and 2) lrn 2 make a win10 boot disc.
>>343939448
>not just emulating those
>>343939939
>emulating
>dreamcast
>N64
>xbox
IQ over 140 I presume
I had more fun picking parts,doing research and building/tweaking my PC than actually playing games on it.
There is like no good games on this shit and most of the older shit I played on consoles.
>>343940062
Are you serious?
Only the Xbox isn't really properly doable but what was worth playing on that that wasn't on PC anyway?
>>343928980
Sorta PC related but I'm trying to decide whether to get a Rasberry Pi or Nvidia Shield for emulation. Which would be better?
>>343940062
>Dreamcast
Werks fine cept some audio issues.
>N64
Literally flawless, you new here?
>Xbox
I have no idea, I've never had an interest to try it.
>>343939074
Gaming laptops are fine, my 4th gen i7 / 770m still runs everything I'd play co-op/MP/PvP just fine which is the reason I bought it, you know, to go over to a friends and bring muh vidya with me. It's not 2005 anymore anon.
On another tangent, I've got a gsync 1440p 144hz panel. I've found I prefer to turn gsync off, set to 120hz and enable ULMB as it is fucking amazing. Has anyone else shared in this wonder or perhaps disagree?
h-hi guys.. theese specs has been good enough for me for a while, but after this years sale i've realised something gotta change. suggestions on what? i want my games to run smoother.
>>343940256
wording this post. why would you spend money upgrading your PC if it can already play old games, which are almost universally better?
is it just graphics whoring? gotta push better framerates and AA settings to somehow make up for the lack of entertainment value? most of the multiplayer games run on toasters too, so it can't really be a competitive thing.
just got one of these with an overclocked 6700k and a 1070
also got a 3440x1440 34 inch curved monitor
should be here in a couple weeks
im stoked
>>343940459
Shield portable if you want a portable. Otherwise the Pi3 is probably more cost effective.
>>343939074
And yet my laptops runs any games on the market right now at highest settings without breaking a sweat. And I don't have to be at home to play it. So I guess there's that.
>>343940887
Hint: it doesn't.
>>343941171
>Laptops last gen have full blown GTX 980 chips in them.
Why would you think they're unable to run current games?
>>343940670
I'm a huge emulation nut so I like pushing my pc and having high FPS in MP games on high settings so its not it was a huge waste of money.
I told myself that the games would come and I was tired of having every MMO I play run like shit even though I spend at most a month on them before I get bored. I was going to get a gpu upgrade but I hope my R9380 can hold just a little bit more and I'll just get a PS4 instead.
>>343940557
dreamcast emulation is alpha stage on windows
n64 is a fucking mess
>>343941276
because they undervolt and underclock them to meet heat constraints for the laptop
>>343940663
the 1060 is coming out soon, you can get a new GPU
the AMD-8350 is a good step up from the 6100
>>343928980
>>Ask ANY QUESTION related to PC no matter how stupid it is
alright
Are the aftermarket rx480s likely to have the same power issues that the reference cards have shown?
When are we likely to see them?
What card should I get if I just want something that will run games through the end of 8th gen at 1080/1440p60 and is very reliable? Do I need a 1070+ to be able to do that?
Can I get a skylake i3 instead of i5, and still play everything?
Go play Anachronox. Now.
>>343941580
And yet I'm still getting max resolution and fraps is showing all of my games at 55-60fps
>>343941826
settings?
>>343935648
Well the 480 is supposed to be better than my card (390x)
I get well over 100fps on 1440p
my rig
>>343941826
>max resolution
let me guess, super crisp, cinematic, 17-inch 1920x1080. Might as well buy a ps4 instead of spending 2 grand on your space heater.
>>343941864
Last game I played was DOOM at max possible in game menu settings. Haven't played around with the nvidia desktop settings though
>>343941728
>Are the aftermarket rx480s likely to have the same power issues that the reference cards have shown?
>When are we likely to see them?
Most likely, AMD is supposed to release their driver fix soon. You can undervolt the card right out of the box to help reduce the issue a bit.
>1080/1440p60 and is very reliable?
the 1070 is kind of expensive but it definitely has a huge performance jump.
the 1060 is coming around soon you could wait to see how that performs.
>can I get a skylake i3 instead
not really, many games are using more than 2 cores and the i3's hyperthreading doesn't help as much as you'd think
>>343942065
Why would I buy a ps4 if I'm not home to play it? That's the same reason I didn't build a desktop
>>343941826
>max resolution
From a technical perspective that is straight up gibberish.
>>343942220
not him but it means your huge and heavy laptop is just a desktop replacement that isn't as powerful as a desktop and it certainly isn't as portable as you'd think it is
>>343940809
How's the Shield TV? Is it better emulation wise? Also the portables you can only buy on Amazon eBay seeks like it isn't being supported anymore.
>2 980's
>not 2 1080's
heh
What do you think about this build?
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/zyxXHN
Add a 256gb samsung 850 pro as ssd
OS is 7
This is meant to be for a 1080p config
Name 6 games worth buying a 1080 for
you really
honestly
can't
>>343942573
1070 is pretty overkill for 1080p
have you looked over any other GPU's?
My 2-year old (minus the new graphics card) PC has been acting up recently (in the past 2 months). The monitor goes black, or goes into sleep mode, and the sound stutters then cuts off. This happens unexpectedly, whether it be soon after booting up or after hours of use. It doesn't seem to be an overheating/power problem because it never happens when I'm running games. Someone suggested that I reset my BIOS and I did, but it still happened.
any suggestions? If it's a CPU/mobo problem, that's fine. I'm upgrading in about a month
>>343942594
any game in 1440p, 1600p and 4k.
All of these things are extremely demanding and the 1080's are the flagships aimed at enthusiasts
>>343942397
>10lbs laptop versus 30-40lbs tower, plus monitor, plus keyboard, plus mouse, plus sound system
>Not that portable.
I'm at work and literally typing on it right now
>>343942594
thats also a very expensive case
r8 my setup
>>343935648
Havent played overwatch on it yet but dont believe the memes, rx 480 rocks.
constant 90 with doom @ max 1920x1080
>>343942858
>I lug around a 10 pound laptop a 2 pound charger, mouse, and all this shit
>I swear its portable guys
>>343942858
it would have been cheaper to buy a real portable laptop like an ultrabook that has superior ergonomics and battery life then buy a second desktop at home
>>343942220
whoa whoa whoa wait hol up hol up, so is you sayin... you tryin to actually justify buying a fat as fuck gaming laptop???
>muh portability
just build a fuckin itx build wtf where are you supposedly transporting this fat-top anyway?
should i wait for the 1060 or get the 480 guys?
>>343942679
That's what I thought, but isn't it worth for some future proofing?
>>343943173
I'm sure you could but 1080p is also losing its luster as well. We're starting to move into the age of higher resolution gaming.
>was ready to upgrade from a 770 to 1070
>even have the 1070 preorder
>mfw realizing there's nothing I really want to play
The only things that I could use the power were
Witcher 3
Which mostly runs at 60 on medium
Doom 4
which runs at 60 on low and higher settings arent that noticable
Fallout 4
which is shit and runs like witcher 3
and Xcom 2
which im not gonna play for a long ass time
Is there any game to warrant an upgrade? Mankind divided is really the only upcoming pc game I might be interested on that might require a decent gpu? I'm scared of getting the 1170 or whatever the next set of cards is going to be if volta comes out the year later.
>>343930437
>6700K
>R7
nigger, what.
>>343943010
Still more portable than a desktop that I'm never home to use
>>343943113
Ultra books are typically shit for gaming
>>343942858
>Its portable
>I have to plug it in where ever I set it up
>>343942931
Good news is that the gun will come in use
Bad news is that it would be on you
>>343931226
>256GB
>$200
whoa buddy, big spender
>>343943258
I feel you, i'm sitting here with new hardware and nothing to play.
>>Ask ANY QUESTION related to PC no matter how stupid it is
Is it possible to convince me of not getting the EVGA 1080 FTW? It sits at the highest affordable price range for me while providing some real nice power. Also everyone keeps talking about how good it is. I'm all about 1080p/144hz, by the way.
I'm jumping from the EVGA 970 FTW, though I have no real bias believe it or not.
Is there anything better I should get? Is there any better choice I could be making?
>>343943357
So riddle me this batman. If you're never home, but want to play games that aren't Nintendo or Shita, what's the alternative?
>>343943543
You don't, Tons of idiots who think that they need a gaming laptop for going off to college are the same people that mix their gaming and their work career and they fuck themselves ethically and academically.
Your laptop is literally a desktop replacement
>>343928980
Why did nvidia skip the 800 series?
Might as well ask here but I already have a good gaming rig, what's a good cheap laptop? not to play games just a cheap small laptop, I got a 17 inch monstrosity that I don't want to haul around anymore
>>343943524
What you should be doing is asking yourself this: "am I unsatisified with the performance my current gpu is giving me?".
If the answer is yes then you have two solutions:
1) Overclock and see if that does provide a more satisfactory experiences
Then
2) Consider purchasing more powerful hardware.
>>343943737
They didn't - they were OEM only chips (notably mobile variants).
>>343943669
>/v/ - Don't Play Vidya if You Have a Life
>>343943894
The lesson there is not that, but that there is a time and place for everything.
>>343943894
no it means don't mix play and work
Thinking of upgrading to a 1070, would this CPU bottleneck it?
>>343943524
should be getting it for 1440p/144hz, 1080p is prehistoric now, if you have the income to be making single-gen jumps then get a 1440p/144hz monitor my man won't regret it
other than that ya a FTW would be a great buy
>>343943523
what did you upgrade from? I honestly can't really justify upgrading right now
>>343944224
bottlenecks are application based, you could play games that have wicked CPU requirements and that'll bottleneck you
How much longer can my 660 keep on truckin? Still seems bretty good tbqh
>>343944359
same, I gotta 660ti
>>343944224
nigga learn about bottle necking before throwing terms around, also what the hell are you upgrading for? you're at 1080p and a 780 ti is more than enough. What game is itching you so much to max that you can't help doing it?
>>343944359
If you play at potato resolution its..okay. Realistically though its time to upgrade. You are the sort of person the RX 480 is targetting.
>>343942614
3/10
>case too big for amount of hardware
>shit color sceme
>What even is that CPU cooler
>two sticks of RAM
> PSU??1/?
>>343943990
>>343944079
I work in assisted living. My job isn't particularly attention consuming and has a lot of down time, but again, can't take a desktop with me
>>343944359
decide for yourself? if it stills seems pretty good to you then why are you even asking this
you seem weak
Just changed out the ol' 7870, served me fucking well.
>>343944480
Can't Max out any AAA games anymore @ 60FPS.
Plus the newer iterations of most game engines are able to utilise multi-threads.
Running Afterburner, my CPU sits constantly at 100% in GTA V, but my GPU only sits at 30% usage.
I finished my pc build today, no pics since its dark now. what do you boys think.
>>343944625
Why so aggro, sheesh
>>343944746
There is no way your gpu is borderline idling in GTA V with that setup.
Plus cranking every setting to max is retarded as some settings have staggering performance penalties.
>waaah I can't turn on supersampling and 8xmsaa, I need to upgrade
>>343944586
>What even is that CPU cooler
>two sticks of RAM
> PSU??1/?
how are those even complaints?
you sound like you know absolutely nothing about desktops or building
>>343944746
what game do you want to max? the witcher 3 is the only recent example I recall of a game looking significantly better when maxed. Other games the changes are negligible. though if you got cash to throw into a fire for fun i guess yoiu can upgrade though at that point i dont even know why you're asking
>>343943848
Overclocking the 970 I have does fuck all.
>2) Consider purchasing more powerful hardware.
Yeah obviously, but there's a difference in these custom cards from different sellers, different models and so on.
>>343944229
I just recently got a BENQ XL2430T and it is basically just the right price point and quality for a 144hz monitor. I really don't care for higher than 1080p, as I don't feel like it's needed. I don't have any income currently, anyway.
Thanks for the advice, though.
I guess I have to ask the question if X99 motherboard with i7-5820k would fuck over anything, because I'm not tech savvy enough to know if something's gonna be an aggressive mutt to the other components somehow
>>343944569
Yeah was thinking that, plays most stuff on medium and sometimes higher at 1080p tho
>>343944785
My fucking refresh rate was set up wrong fuck me.
>>343944968
>Overclocking the 970 I have does fuck all.
Unless you are barely nudging core clocks you should be seeing some gains.
Who /7yearoldcpubutwaitingforzen/ here?
>>343944894
you're literally shitposting, your post added nothing, you're pretty much one of those "works for me" post doofuses PLEASE think before you post next time more people need to
>>343944967
Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Dead by Daylight, GTA V,
All games in recent memory I wasn't able to run on Ultra without making compromises.
>>343945331
GTA V can't be maxed by any single gpu yet.
>>343944746
uhhh dude games are supposed to 100% utilise your CPU that's how it works, 30% GPU usage on the other hand sounds far more worrying you should be troubleshooting that
>>343945129
I wanna blame the 3.5GBVRAM so hard for literally everything, because it really feels a lot of my issues are going there. Hitching I'm pretty sure is a side effect of it.
I really can't tell, because going +200GC, +400MC does barely raise a frame for me. Could be defect card, idk, but then again aren't all 970s defect
Anyway I guess I'll be getting the FTW one for my birthday and selling the 970 to my little brother. Thanks guys
>>343945516
turning off Super Sampling you can because Super Sampling is fucking dog shit
>>343944586
holy shit is this bait?
>>343945331
>literally 4 games
>one of them is fallout 4 of all things
>a game that looks like shit regardless of what graphics settings you put on it
again, if you got cash to burn then go for it, though actually burning cash might be more worth it
>>343928980
oh shit m8 I got the same case!
>>343945619
As big as a performance hit that has what massively kills GTA performance is the fact the advance settings increase draw distance so much that when AA is applied to it the game is basically rendering things you can't actually see.
>>343945321
Holy shit you're buttmad, sorry for trying to have a conversation on a fucking message board and using up the clearly limited amount of posts on this high quality website
Go outside you autist
>want to get into PC gaming
>know nothing about building one properly
>know nothing about the parts I need besides graphics cards
>no idea how to install linus ubantu
>no idea where to start in general
>zero tech competency
>>343945674
yes. don't fall for it next time
Looking for recommendations for case fans and an upgrade from evo 212. Don't want liquid cooling, don't trust pumps or liquid for that matter.
Case fan's I'm looking for a front rad, pref 2x 140mm
>>343928980
Im thinking about upgrading my 280X to something. If I did. What would you guys recommend and what should I sell it for?
>>343946056
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
yeah I know it aint the best but its a good guide for brain dead peopleI used it too and have had zero problems
>>343946056
Don't worry, most children learn early on that the red square fits in the red coloured, square shaped hole.
>>343928980
>spend a grand on a PC 7 months ago
>lots of games still run like shit, assume due to optimization
>everyone just tells me it's because my PC is shit and I spent a grand on a toaster
>>343946410
post specs famland
I wanted to build a small gaming build capable of handling VR so i threw this together:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hrptJV
thoughts?
i'm looking for alternatives for cases that are not too big or smaller with decent airflow.
>>343946410
wut? post specs
I spend a grand on a full build 6 months ago and can max everything 1080. You must have fucked up real bad
Name one game worth upgrading from a 770 forno seriously I feel like I shouldnt at all
>>343946462
>>343946506
Sure, why not, I'm pretty immune to being insulted over it at this point
>yfw securing this fucking lever down for the first time
You couldn't pull a nail out of my ass with a pair of vice grips during that shit
>>343945991
that's not conversation, it's just zero input fluff, we're not standing around trying to make polite smalltalk here, when you post it's a very deliberated action (or at least should be)
it seems like you have a compulsion to chatter even on an internet post basis, and hold an importance to that chatter, not a good thing my friend
>>343946410
>House gets robbed
>Insurance pays for a brand new $3k PC
>Tfw getting robbed actually improved the stuff you have
>>343946673
that aint that bad anon, what games are you struggling with? Might be amd being amd
>>343946490
Get rid of that piece of shit mobo. First it's ASRock, second it's a H170 chipset. Won't let you OC the 6600K you picked out. Get a Z170 mobo.
Other than that looks good, a nice case is the Enthoo Evolv iTX check it out.
>>343946673
A grand on that? I spend a grand on pic related
prices in your country must be fucked up
>>343946825
Dead by daylight and subnautica, primarily. Goywork games also run like shit
>>343946764
>try a couple of times
>cant do it
>give it a good whirl
>cant do it
>mfw the metal plate was dented
took me 2 more hours to gather my balls to try again
>>343946987
Goyworks runs like shit on everything.
>>343946987
are you setting shit on ultra or something? you should be able to run things fine on med or high
What's the best GPU I could upgrade to with a fx-6300 without bottlenecking it real bad?
Wich motherboard should i buy to upgrade? I don't wanna change the CPU btw. I also wanna buy a GPU, what do you recommend?
>>343947156
Depends on resolution you play at and clocks of said 6300.
>>343947302
>i7
>intel hd graphics
>500 gb hard drive
>>343947092
I feel like those two games (both unity) just hate my GPU. Subnautica crashed very often due to GPU shit until I forced it into DX9 mode.
Is there any way to better optimize newer games to run at 60fps on my Alienware laptop?
>>343946775
How is it zero input? I asked how much longer my graphics card keep working reasonably , something I don't really know. Are you that incapable of reading?
>>343947367
1600x900
Core clock.
>>343947510
because i'm poor and i haven't even bought it yet. it's a prebuilt computer and i'm gonna buy it for like $110
>>343947753
>1600x900
who here with a first gen i7 x58 rig waiting for katy lake before new build?
>>343947861
>haven't even bought it yet
>speccy screenshot
are you renting that shit or what
>>343947910
Please don't make fun of me I've had this monitor for over 4 years and it's still working ;_;
>Ask ANY QUESTION related to PC no matter how stupid it is
How do I tell if a card is reference or not? Is it by brand? For explain brand X uses reference specs and brand Y does non-reference and adds better coolers, etc.
>>343946350
slow the fuk down m8
>>343948026
buy a second one senpai and use this old one as a secondary monitor
>>343947753
Yeah there isn't much point in a huge gpu upgrade at such potato resolution. Overclocking the cpu if your motherboard can handle it is a good move.
Plus what gpu do you currently have?
Pic semi-related, me pushing an 8 core chip to its thermal limits.
>>343948020
i can explain it but i just want answers to my questions
>>343948068
reference cards are the original cards, they tend to have blower style coolers so literally anything that doesn't ahve that is not a reference card. Though there are cards with blowers that are not reference suck as the 1070 aero. And no all brands sell reference cards at first
>>343946929
the case looks fine indeed, and i'll also change the mobo.
What's the problem with asrock though? prone to break maybe?
also would you recommend Watercooling? is there any major benefits on getting a closed circuit one, those you don't need to change the liquid.
>>343948308
salvage the i7, the ram, and the hard drive and start from scratch
>>343947729
because the only person that can answer that is you dude, how about you just use it until it either fails or you feel that it's not working "reasonably" anymore
are you incapable of thinking for yourself or do you need others to do that for you?
>PC
>games
THINK OF INSTEAD~
A GAME WORTH UPGRADING FOR~
WHICH THAT I HAD~
A GAME WORTH UPGRADING F-
>>343948312
Assrock is like supermarket brand cola. It tastes like cola, but it's still shit. There is a reason they are the cheapest.
Now, water cooling.The smaller the form factor, the better water cooling is. Not much air flow compared to ATX, so even just having a closed loop on the CPU will give benefits to the GPU being air cooled, and being a VR machine the GPU will be always on high loads so I say it's a good investment. I heard mixed things about them but rule of thumb is, more expensive = more reliable.
But on the other hand, a Noctua D14 is on par or sometimes better than closed loops, but it all depends on the set up. I would suggest researching, asking around people who had experience with water cooling in ITX form factor and go from there.
>>343948143
I have a gigabyte 970A-D3P motherboard and I'm currently running a r7 265. My 6300 is at it's core clock of 3.5mhz. If I overclocked what GPU could I upgrade to?
Now I just need to get the dosh for an SSD and another GPU
r8 m8s
2 Q:S
spilled milk on mech keyboard, it still works but its sticky, pulled keys out and cleaned, but how do i clean the actual keyboard? its nasty
and what are the cheapest/decent quality 3.5 regular HDD holder to 2.5 SSD holders? Ive got 3 ssds just hanging in my case not tied down.
>>343949438
Also my case
>>343949458
Buy a new one
Dont keep open drinks so fucking close to your shit
>>343949323
That motherboard won't take too much in the way of overclocking but you might be able to squeeze just over 4ghz depending on the voltage your chip wants (and assuming you can actually cool it).
Assuming 1080p and ignoring budget the go-to card as of right now is the RX 480. That said if one looks into used cards there are some tasty deals to be had.
Regardless of what you decide just make sure your psu can actually feed everything. Its no good trying to upgrade if your shanghai street vendor special psu can't keep up.
>>343949458
are you looking to clean the boards actual pcb or do you have a plate under the keys? cleaning a pcb would need like a de-ionised water bath or something but if its just the plate clean it like you did the keys with a rag or something
>>343928980
>dual overpriced gpus
>blowing hot air into the case
you mustard have a hard life.
What would be the dumbest thing for me to do?
>upgrade from a 770 to 1070 even though there are no games coming out that would warrant
>buy a new 3ds only to play monster hunter for 300 hours even though I have an old 3ds
>buy a laptop to use in campus because I don't wanna carry my huge 17 in laptop around
>>343949756
>Liquid cooling
>blowing hot air
k
>>343949793
new smaller laptop would be the biggest quality of life improvement imo
>>343949732
I'm not using a stock cooler on it so that wouldn't be as much as a problem. Would I still need to overclock if I wanted to get an rx 480? Also I'm using a coolermaster 500w powersupply, no cheap brand or anything.
>>343949793
>blow the money on large quantities of rum
>>343949438
>>343949562
Why the i7?
Jelly of your mobo, sexy stuff. Too bad about the 970
>>343949192
i'll do anon.
thanks!
>>343935356
hope you enjoy your console ports anon.
>>343949846
the gpu's aren't liquid cooled my man
>>343949846
you're not pretending are you?
>>343949747
The plate, not actual PCB. Afraid to cause it real damage with water and actually kill it.
>>343935356
but why, what game do you plan on playing? because I want to know too since i have no game that would make me want to upgrade
>>343949942
> Would I still need to overclock if I wanted to get an rx 480?
A stock 6300 tends to sit around haswell i3 levels of performance. A decent overclock will push it into i5 territory. You should always overclock AMD cpus if they aren't doing what you want at their stock frequency - you can gewt some impressive gains. If that doesn't do it for then you will have to go Intel.
>Also I'm using a coolermaster 500w powersupply, no cheap brand or anything.
Wattage doesn't inherently mean quality, nor does any particular brand. EVGA for example makes some monstrously good psu's (mostly rebranded superflower ones fyi) but equally they make some utter shit ones. Its something you will have to research on your own but the crucial number is wattage and amps it provides on the 12v rail.
This is a rough guide to set you in the right direction.
https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/printer/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards
>Want to build this computer but it's coming up to $2000 to get everything I want.
>Make $1200 a month
>$600 goes to rent and bills
>$600 is for food and other shit for the month
FUCK
This thread proves pic related 100% true.
>>343950280
just get a damp rag with a little soap if the smells quite bad and go to town on it, as long as your cleaning involves no actual droplets of water and just wet cloth then you'll be fine, that's what the plate's there for just dry it when you're done
>>343950412
I've never overclocked before. I know to go slow but when can I tell that I need to stop before things start to crash?
>>343950047
Local parts store had a bundle sale for the i7 + the mobo together. It was a good deal about $160 off
Don't mind the heat I live in Florida
>>343950450
pick up some more hours anon
>>343950450
>$600 is for food and other shit for the month
maybe not having a buffet in your house can help, get a roomate and stop buying so much food/getting gigabit internet
>>343950229
>>343949846
are you guys ignorant or what?
look at the right side in OP's pic. This is a radiator and 2 fans.
Anyway can someone explain the point of thoses liquid cooling systems if you end up with as much fans + the pump making noise as well?
What game has the best graphics?
>>343950639
You only stop when it does crash - they go back a step. That is the only real way to tell.
There are plenty of guides out there for overclocking FX chips but the rule of thumb is simple.
1) increase frequency to what the chip turbos to (probably 3.8ghz or something for the 6300) and see if it runs stable at that on stock voltage (it should do but shit chips won't).
2) If it still works bump frequency up by 100mhz
3) Run a stress test like Intel Burn Test or prime95
4) If it crashes nudge voltage up
Repeat until temperatures get out of control or more voltage doesn't keep it stable and then back down to last good configuration.
Also: disable turbo.
>she doesn't have mitx
>>343950974
lower temps = higher clocks
>>343950683
Same here, senpai. What part?
>>343950781
But I already am doing 40 hours a week on $8.40 per hour and it took me 4 months to find a damn job out here.
>>343951059
Thanks for the help.
>>343951163
tell me anon, how did you settle so close to the sun?
>>343950994
idk witcher 3 i guess, though if you're asking what games will make your card struggle then there are plenty of un optimized messes out there
>>343951272
It was free real estate.
>>343950974
i can tell you're not baiting so im gonna call you a retard
the gpu's are quite obviously both using aircooled heatsinks (note the aluminium heat spreaders and piping, and complete lack of a watercooling block/tubing on the cards)
if you don't know the difference between an aircooled heatsink and a watercooling block on a gpu you really shouldn't be trying to argue this
you retard
>>343935816
yes it does retard. nonk skylake cpus come with a stock cooler.
>>343932512
https://youtu.be/uZR-a35sxLg
>>343937002
Thanks anon
>>343951415
Yeah I'm not really trying to make my card struggle, I just want a game that looks awesome now that I've upgraded from my 560ti.
>>343944746
A 1070 can't "max out" GTA V @60fps considering you use 8x MSAA and supersampling.
Also you're a retard, too
>>343951506
what about the cpu genius?
Is there any trick to learning the graphics card and cpu naming conventions?
>>343951940
just google whats new
Homescreen posted
>>343951940
You just have to do research and be up to speed on these things
What should I do /v/? I'm in the middle of saving up for a PC build and don't know what to do. Either I get crisper images at 4K, or buttery smoothness at 144hz. This problem has been bothering me for weeks and I don't know what to do.
>>343938705
You can build a PC that will play modern games at 720p, medium settings pretty easily.
But that's pretty much like owning a console.
I got a question senpai.
I've built a few computers to date, but I seem to be struggling as of late with loading areas and effects before I get 60+ FPS, is prebuffering of areas for a few seconds before it can actually smooth a RAM problem?
I got a free AMD 8350 and EVGA 970 GTX from a friend who upgraded, but I only have 4 sticks of 2GB Ram. I am suspicious that they are struggling.
Would new on-screen effects / loading buffering of textures upon changing areas be a ram issue?
They're ancient ripjaws sticks.
>>343951940
are you asking about how to learn stuff
>>343952157
why can't i be good at something without having to do anything?
Anyone else get into the closed alpha for BF1?
>>343952238
Depends on the game - it could be a ram issue or it could be your slow as fuck HDD.
>>343942003
Nice build, anon. H440's a nice chassis too.
>>343942614
Aesthetic's all over the place, but it's practical.
>>343952340
With that attitude you'll make top 100 hits on tumblr in no time!
>anon was mansplaining to me about building a computer
>>343931226
Anon maybe you already know this,but if your pc start crashing with or without bsod and audio loop,it's the fucking RAM.
>>343951845
what about it? that wasn't the point of contention, I think you're mistaken (stupid)
>>343952390
I didn't know it was available yet
>>343933993
there are games that are more CPU intensive like some Total War games.
>>343932904
It's vaffanculo anonche cazzo
>>343952710
Just got my code a few hours ago.
How much should i spend on a Moba, and hard drive if im going to build a 1500 dollar PC. Thanks
>>343952827
Did you have to do anything to get it? Sounds to me like the just randomly picked people
>>343952884
~$300 cpu
~$150-200 mobo
~$80 for a hard drive and ~$80 for an ssd
That's for a mainstream system, if you go X99 you'll spend a bit more
>>343952884
You have asked that question incorrectly and thus any reply is meaningless. Ask it properly and you might get some advice.
>>343953081
Pretty sure it's just randomly picked, but if you're a veteran you get preferential treatment.
>>343952697
the cpu is watercooled you retard. Now go back to the previous posts and try to figure it out by yourself.
>>343952527
Some cable combs would go a long way for your system
>fall for PC meme
>do some research and buy a medium for 1000$
>it works great for 1(one) months then problems start one after another
yeah never again
I don't have a feng shui system or anything, but it works and is fairly clean
Don't feel any real need to upgrade anything, I'd have to get a 1440p monitor for anything more powerful
>>343953381
Yeah, I really should get around to buying some.
>>343953572
>it works great for 1(one) months then problems start one after another
Nice meme
>>343953572what kind of problems?
>>343951163
hi anon! i live near Tampa. What about you?
its so shitty outside. I get into my car that's been baking in the sun and the temperature gauge initially reads 105F before settling down to a comfortable 95
at least newegg doesn't charge sales tax
Is that PCPartsPicker 'Great Gaming Build' build good? Really thinking of getting my first real rig.
>>343953846
It's a nice place to start
how do you niggers keep your pcs so dust free? do you only take pics until you air dusted the shit out of it?
>>343953774
Spring Hill.
>8:30am go outside to car for work
>BLAZING HEAT
>Completely blue skies out
>LOUD THUNDER
You know. I should have stayed in Rhode Island.
At least Tampa is okay. You're close to Disney and Universal. 2 hour drive here.
And yes. Glad Newegg doesn't charge sales tax
>>343954123
>do you only take pics until you air dusted the shit out of it?maybe
>>343953572
>be PC illiterate
>spend an exuberant amount of money on something I can't even use efficiently
>muck it up within a month
mhmm
Got some shekels recently and am wondering what's in need of an upgrade on my rig?
>>343954123
>>343954206
What the fuck do you niggers use to get rid of dust?
Compressed air or?
Because i want to do it right now, anything household I can use that wont fucking kill my shit?
>>343954342
Keep the ram and the hdd, upgrade everything else
>>343954123
Buy an air compressor. $75 for a cheap harbor freight model. Put a water filter on it, then hose the shit out of your case every few months.
Aside from that, don't put it on the floor, don't keep pets, don't smoke, and maybe put dust filters on your intake fans.
>>343954427
Compressed air, yes. Even better if you have an actual compressor (though you need to be careful of the PSI).
>>343954427
Just get canned air and a fine brush
>>343954427
Jesus christ, calm down
It's just dust.
>>343930437
using DDR 3 with Skylake, didn't you get the memo?
>>343933993
CPU does definitely matter for gaming if you are playing any modern games.
I can see my 2500k @ 4.6 bottlenecking my 980 in some games. I imagine even with i5s up to 4690k they would bottleneck newer GPUs in some games
Just got this hoe built. It's my first build. Rate/roast
Intel i5 6500
Gigabyte GA-Z170 LGA 1151
DDR 4 2400 2x 8gig
250 gig SSD
1 T HDD
gtx 970
>>343951723
thats years outdated
>>343932512
"as good as" ps4 and xbone build would be like $250, maybe less. cheap amd cpu and 7870
How do people manage to tuck in their wires so neatly?
Do you need the proper case for it?
>>343955041
which games has it bottlenecked it on so far?
Just got my 1070.
>>343955505
Yours is almost fine chill out.
But yeah nice cases have heaps of little places to hide them.
Upgraded just last month from a shitty old AMD cpu and a 770 2gb
Thought i was gonna get 150+ fps in Witcher 3 but it stayed around 100 to 150 without hairworks, 60 to 80 with it, even dropping lower than that with a few bears around.
Is W3 just really unoptimized or is something wrong?
I don't see myself getting a 2k-4k or 144Hrz monitor when the latest games aren't gonna run any better than this on high end hardware.
>>343955091
What kind of speakers do you have?
>>343953357
And here's how the game looks/runs.
>>343928980
have this in an s340 case. getting 1 more 960gb ssd, and an ek predator 240 shipped right now.
just wondering if i should get a 1070 or 1080 and putting a waterblock on it
>>343955603
Battlefield 4, Total War Warhammer, Witcher 3, Crysis 3, Ass creed unity/Syndicate, Watch dog, GTA V, probably tons more these are just off the top of my head
For example in Battlefield 4 multiplayer 64 players, the 2500k @ 4.6 will be at 90-100% usage. The GPU usage will fluctuate from 70-99% depending on how much is going on. The framerates are still good, like 70-90 on ultra but I know with an i7 I would be at locked 120.
Pic related is my build, planning on doing a full rebuild in late 2017 using zen/i7 cannonlake (whichever is best), 1180 or AMD equivalent and 1440p 144hz IPS monitor
>>343955719
woops typo
>>343955603
I can't speak for that guy but he does have a point. It's crazy how much modern developers are starting to push cpus. I could definitely see a 2500k starting to bottleneck.
>>343956058
>penis balloons
>>343955926
It's a fucking demanding game, does this really surprise you?
So i'm looking to build a PC.
Sitting on a 7 year old laptop that can run games, i just have to make them have N64 graphics. Never EVER in my life have had a PC worth a damn, mostly because of being a poorfag and lack of knowledge on the subject.
I don't even know my budget, i'll be honest. Hardly looking for a god-tier machine, but just something that can actually run vidya at more than 20fps with Nintendo DS resolution.
Here's the specs, but just know it's likely going to cause vomiting.
>>343955932
Logitech 5.1 surround son. Best bang for your buck.
>tfw summer comes and the side panel has to fuck off
What goes through the mind of someone who upgrades their CPU or GPU every 2 years?
>>343932735
>S.Pellegrino
>Razer set
>shaven legs
What the hell are you doing on 4chan m8
Get the hell out you and your pleb water
>>343956371
Not too much, but I was running it at about steady 40fps on high with my old shitty setup, just expected a bigger performance gain.
Honestly though, I can just imagine getting a 2k monitor and having to deal with sub 60 drops in newer games, or even just a 144hz monitor and not always hitting 144fps which doesn't sound worth it to me.
>>343956675
very little
>>343950156
At lest we have sells on games! Fag
>>343955926
Its not unoptimized at all, you are just running a demanding game at max settings
Hairworks drops frames by alot on everything because its a gameworks feature, all gameworks/nvidia features heavily cripple framerate
980 gets average of exactly 60 without hairworks with everything else maxed, so 100fps for a 1080 sounds right without hairworks
What peripheral can I buy that will inject me full of cyanide or replace my breathable air with helium?
>>343956792
Unfortunately 1080p is still the sweet spot for now.
Try turning off most or all of the post processing options though, you wont even miss them and they are frame suckers.
>>343957032
PSN sales are as good as Steam sales nowadays desu senpai
Today's Steam sales look like shit compared to a couple years ago.
>>343931226
Where is your power supply?
End My suffering please.
>>343956675
MOAR GRAPHICS FOR THE LEAST MONEY POSSIBLE.... if you're smart, if you're a retard you just go for the most expensive shit.
or if you're smarter, you buy parts good and cheap enough to last you longer than two years.
i've had my 8350 since they came out and i don't see myself buying a new CPU any time soon, my 290 is also performing quite well and i still get 60+ FPS in games like Witcher 3 on ultra.
intel processor will last you longer but it's more expensive as well, and lets be honest, new games have a tendency to support 8 cores even if they are weak cores like in the AMD, i personally still have AMD because amd sockets and backward compatibility means i've been in a continuous upgrade of CPU and Motherboard one after another, i don't remember the last time i bought a CPU and Motherboard at the same time.
if i had to buy a new motherboard and CPU at the same time i'd probably go with Intel this time around, depends on the bang for the buck and how many bucks i have.
>>343956058
How does it run?
Is it still using Frostbite 3?
>>343957150
>cigarette lighter
>>343957150
a console
>>343957382
>amd cpu
>3.5 gpu
>that ram speed
>>343957179
I think i'l stick with 1080p for a while, I don't mind it and the performance loss at 2k doesn't sound worth it given that 1080p still feels fine.
Might get a 144hz monitor if anything.
>>343928980
My PSU is about 400W. What should I improve/replace on this shit I'm stuck with?
memes aside which graphics card should i buy (one that can run 2 monitors) idk much about PCs sorry im building one soon :P
>>343957382
>16GB ram
>577Mhz
wtf, that shit alone is probably destroying your FPS in games you retard.
My motherboard once set my ram to it's lowest speed instead of 1200 and battlefield went from 120FPS to 40's
fix your ram speed you tard, the rest of the computer is fine
>>343957487
It's using the same version of Frostbite as Battlefront.
It runs pretty well, I'm playing on a mix of high and ultra and I average 50-60 FPS.
The one thing I like is that you can actually fucking climb walls taller than 3 feet instead of having to go around.
>>343957612
Since it's a prebuilt I doubt the psu is anything decent. You could get something with a very low power draw like a 950 or something
See what the 1060 will be and then decide
>>343957508
You think the fun stops there?
>>343957898
This looks wrong
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvxXHN
I've had these parts for two years, and the only upgrades I've done so far was an additional SSD and 8 more GB RAM. My next upgrade will be towards a better card, despite how well it runs, since next generation games don't really run well with a 2gb card. Should I go ahead with finding a good 4gb card, hold off until later, or upgrade the CPU, which is also working well?
Recommend me a nice case /v/. Something that looks like it was taken straight out of scifi movie, everything i find is black and boring
>>343957931
Wish I got into the Alpha, you get to learn the maps/weapons before beta/full release
I was in BF3 alpha and I learned the weapons/metro so good that on release you destroy everyone
Poorfagot here. I have only money enough for a gtx 750 ti + 1tb Hd
Best Hd brand? Hitachi? Seagate still a pile of shit?
Just built this
Hi i'm building my first pc just wondering how much should i spend on a good monitor (No 4K shit just good)
>>343958645
>he fell for the skylake meme
you should have just gotten a 4790K it's all around better. nice single thread performance bro.
>>343932512
toss a mid tier gpu into your moms desktop and it will be console quality. PSU might be an issue but most of the time throwing a cheap gpu into a prebuilt is better than building a low end pc from scratch because gpu, cpu, mobo, and psu are not components with longetivity if you cheap out on them
>>343958641
Hitachi is still very good, along with WD
Certain Seagate models like the 3tb ones were complete shit, but the rest of them are about average
>>343958172
I wouldnt buy a 4gb card now, its pretty much in the same position that your 2gb was in when you bought it (about to become obsolete within a year)
6-8gb minimum if you want to keep the card longer than 1-2 years, 1060 6gb or 480 8gb are your options unless you want to pay out the ass for a 1080 which will lose half their value when the ti releases.
No real point upgrading a CPU that is 1 gen outdated, just overclock it to 4+ ghz and wait a few more years
my i5 / 970 build has been going strong for 2 years but recently i've been having problems.
which is more likely, my SSD being broken or my mobo? it bluescreens on start up. tested the RAM and PSU
>>343958723
I work at intel, so it only cost me 160 bucks. Worth it for me
>>343958681
$100-150 on a standard 1080p
More if you want higher refresh rates or 1440p
>>343958851
Might be a corrupted OS install. Backup your shit and reinstall and see if that fixes it
The bluescreen should give you an error code of the problem
>>343934238
dont get such old ass cards, theres newer cards with equal or better performance/price ratio. though my 760 is able to play most games on high at 1080p other than the crazier ones like witcher
Why are 1080s and 1070s still out of shock? WHAT THE FUCK.
>>343958723
>buying outdated tech
might aswell buy a 2600k since thats only a couple percent behind your 4790k while your at it
>>343933618
Clean up the cables and it'll be great
>>343959054
Nvidia wants to create the illusion of demand. They're overpriced anyway
>>343958681
Just look for 1080p, 120 or 144hz and low input lag (like 4ms or under)
If you have AMD card you might aswell get a freesync monitor too, if you have Nvidia you have to pay an extra $100 for gsync so the budget aspect goes out the window
>>343936552
Then what have I been playing since I ditched my xb360 years ago?
>>343930437
>6700k
>h170 mobo
>ddr3
>r7 370
literally what the fuck is this build.
>>343934238
no, 750ti is bad price/performance, amd equiv at the same price point you probably get 50%+ more performance. only reason to get one is if you have a 300w psu
>>343959054
Nvidia launched with 10 units in stock, combined with the founders edtion price hike and no AMD competition at high end we have one fucked up launch
Nexy year when there is AMD competition and better yields on the new nodes I wouldn't be surprised to see another 970 moment with a 1170 beating a 1080 for $320 or so. 1080/1070 will lose value fast.
What should I upgrade? I currently don't have a GPU due to issues with my previous one. Only part not listed here is my 80+Gold 500w Power Supply.
>>343958156
>>343957382
Why is it saying my ram is 577 mhz? I could Understand the 800mhz in the other screen cus it is 1600mhz, but the 577mhz makes me think the ram isn't even functioning properly.
>>343959801
Aftermarket 1060/480
cheap but strong
>>343958889
I guess, but you just gimped your machine to pinch pennies m8.
>>343960640
budget build done right desu senpai
>>343961036
6700k is better though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDo-j00vUtw
>>343960215
I'm thinking a Nitro 480 once its out myself. Then I might upgrade the CPU and mobo and ram once Zen and Kaby Lake are out.
>>343961379
>the 6700k is overclocked
>the others are not
go fucking kill yourself
>>343961557
It has both stock and overclocked 6700k ya dingus
I currently have a 650 ti which is starting to not cut it anymore. I don't have any plans to upgrade to 1440p or 4k (Maybe 1440p in the future but definitely not anytime soon). What GPU should I but to replace my 650 ti?
>>343961826
What CPU? Budget?
>>343960215
Will pretty much max every game 1080p/60fps
Should I buy a 980 Ti for $200?
>>343961626
He can just stay mad. Im happy with my 6700k purchase lol.
>>343962120
Yeah if I was building a new PC the 6700k is what I would go for, best CPU for gaming at the moment
>>343962091
Yes, its roughly the same power as 1070. You could even resell for $350 or so easily.
>>343962057
I have an i5 3570k that is OC'd to 4.4ghz. My budget is anything really, probably no more than a GTX 1070 current price but as long as I am getting good quality for my money I don't really mind.
>>343959069
The cables are cleaned up Anon.
That power cable is you see behind the GPU is too short to reach the motherboard while being hidden behind.
>>343962368
I dont think the 1070 is worth it for 1080p. 1060 or 480 is more than enough, just dont get a reference/founders edition
what does 300 dollaroonis get me?
Can someone help me please?
I want to play games like Fallout new vegas, dark souls 3, yeah but I don't know how much I need spend in order to achieve that. Yeah, I have a budget but I don't want to overspend when I don't have to.
>>343962579
Thats what I was thinking too. I'll wait and see what the 1060 is like. Thanks anon.
>>343962841
>I have a budget
then what's your budget famland
Can I last until volta or do I upgrade to a 1070 and not upgrade until whatever is after volta? I feel like if I got for a 1060 I would just upgrade again when volta comes out
>>343963008
$400-$500
shits comfy
I spend almost 50$ a month on electricity playing games on this thing. Don't do SLI...
>>343963221
then go with the rx 480 since its cheap, just wait for after market. It will do more than run those games
Should I hold out for a 480 or get a 390 for the same price?
>>343963332
all you had to do was wait for the 980 ti anon but instead you thought buying to 980s was a good idea
R8 my setup
>>343963446
1/10 no glowing company gamer logo
>>343963186
I feel like a 1070 at 1080p would be enough for at least 3-4 more years
>>343963358
That's the thing. I don't know what an rx 480 is.
>>343963582
all you have to do is google nigger
here literally made for people like you
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>>343963441
There isn't one day that goes by that don't fully regret this decision
>>343963557
so do I but honestly I can't think of any games coming up that I want to play. What games are even expected to be performance hogs for the next two years?
I had a CMOS error and decided to check my BIOS settings before I opened up my case. I was looking through the settings and noticed smart fan wasn't on. Restarted computer and no more CMOS error. Why?
>>343963446
Work on your cable management, 3/10
>>343963658
Nigger... I want an already made computer that's cheap and can run something like dark souls 3. I say dark souls 3 since it's new and I think it's the game that'll take the most effort to run. Please help me.
>>343964092
>I want an already made computer that's cheap
good luck with that one
>>343964092
newegg have pre-built gaming PC stocked go check them out
>>343928980
Never post on /v/ but here I go
Getting rid of the 980tis to get one 1080, SLI is a meme. Will have an extra 600 dollars left over and then I will sell the 1080 and buy the 1080ti when it comes out. I do what I want, if what I want is stupid then so be it.
>>343964092
>nigger
Look who's talking. Learn how to put fucking PC Lego together, jigaboo.
upgrading to 1070 soon
Please name a game upgrading for
>>343964509
>seagate
>>343964756
Nothing wrong with their older drives, the only problem was the 3TB drives. Nice meme.
>>343964721
I will name that game, Alfred.
>>343963221
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TQtjcc
You can go lower by like $40 by getting a trash motherboard and a mediocre PSU. Furthermore swapping for an 8300 is possible to save $20 or $30 more but not recommended, and going for a 6300 would cripple the build. If you want a halfway decent PC you need $600. $500 goes below the point at which you are giving up a lot of power for a handful of dollars.
>>343964721
[Game that hasn't been announced yet but will have insane graphical fidelity] there faggot. Expect the unexpected.
Currently running an i5 2500k CPU
Would an i5 6600k be a amazing upgrade, or a minimal one?
Also, would this motherboard be able to take the CPU: MSI P67A-C43 (MS-7673) - Straight from Speccy.
Thanks for any help.
>>343965039
senpai such a game would already have been anounced, and even if it does by the time it comes out a new set of cards would have come out
>>343964847
What's wrong with their 3TB drives?
Side note, my 1TB Caviar Blue from 2~3 years ago developed a shitton of bad sectors so I put it away and replaced it. WD's are not indestructible.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zx36XH
>>343965102
A CPU upgrade of any significance whatsoever ALWAYS comes with a motherboard upgrade. A new generation of processors physically will not fit with the last one. The exception is a die shrink (same shape processor, but newer gen) except those are not even remotely worth upgrading to since it's just slightly newer.
The upgrade in your case would be a minimal one when it comes to most things people do on computers. It would be a moderate upgrade if you do other things like video work, but then again, if you do that sort of stuff you should probably be using a codec that allows for hardware acceleration via GPU.
In short: Probably not.
>>343928980
>building a pc for games
LMAO
>>343965535
I figured as much. I've just been having trouble running Squad stably, and people have been saying; "Oh it's more CPU intensive than GPU". So I figured I'd look into a CPU upgrade, but upon further reading, it seems like the game is just lousy with optimization.
I know I wouldn't be able to update my mobo along with a CPU at the same time due to money, and.. Among other things inability to actually do it myself. The CPU I could, but mobo would have me confused.
Regardless, thanks.
>>343965208
Nothing about this jumps out at me as being wrong. Only thing that might be a problem is the PSU wattage, but I haven't calculated the power draw of the components. I would go go for fully modular for that small of a case.
>>343965162
It's "What WAS wrong with their 3TB drives", they were failing. Not too big of a deal. But retards thought that meant all drives were failing.
When will the world stock up on more 1070s?!?!?!
>>343935312
You are going to have a fucking blast with MGR.
>>343965208
2 things wrong here
1. That PSU is weak for such a top tier build and not modular. I suggest 750watt modular
2. You're buying a windows 10 oem key
Oem means that key will ONLY work with one motherboard you install it on. Nothing else. If you get a new mobo you need a new key. Secondly you can get keys much cheaper elsewhere
If I were you, I'd key a windows 7 64 bit pro key here for 25 dollars
https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/comments/4rcxgf/hwindows_10_7_8_81_office_2016_2013_2010_pc_mac_w/
Then I'd upgrade to windows 10 for FREE so you got both covered. The deadline for the free upgrade is this month on the 29th so if you can't do it all by then I suggest just get a 10 key though it's 45 bucks. It's not OEM though which is what matters here and is a good thing.
>>343965208
>i7-6700
First things first, this is not overclockable. At this budget you NEED to buy a 6700k over a 6700. Are you going to be utilizing the hyper threading? Are you doing video work? 3D Modeling? Raw data processing? Simulations? If not, you probably want a 6600k. You can OC a 6600k to give you much better per core performance (which is what really matters) than a 6700. Obviously a 6700k is like a 6600k but with hyper threading and can also be OC'd.
>SSD
You are getting a 250GB 850 EVO for $92. A 500GB EVO has double the storage capacity and 67% more cost. It's in your favor to get it for the bast value for your dollar. If you don't care, the 250GB is fine.
>PSU
You may need a little more power just to be safe, especially for future upgrades. Having a stronger PSU while using less of its power is also good for power consumption and the overall life of the PSU. I recommend an EVGA Supernova NEX 650 or an EVGA 650GQ. I think the NEX is fully modular. Same price as the Seasonic.
>Windows
Go to the Reddit 'Microsoft Software Swap' board and buy a Windows key for cheap. I think W10 keys are like $35 or $40. If you build before the end of July, (I think) you can still get a W7 key for $15~$25 and free upgrade within the OS. The drawback of these keys (they ARE legit) is that they lose their grace period after a few months so IF YOU REINSTALL MONTHS LATER the key doesn't work. Of course though once you activate, it's good forever for that install.
>>343931226
switch the M2 for two ~240gb SSDs in Raid 1 or 0
Heres mine.
Would this GPU work with a 255W PSU?
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-P3-2732-KR
All places I've look they say it should, but I'm not sure if I'm missing something, like amperage or some other shit.
Am I alright?
>>343967039
>970
Start over.
am i cool enough guis?
>>343965778
Some games can reportedly take advantage of new CPU technologies. These are very few and rare. Not sure if this is the case here. Also every new generation has a performance per clock boost, it's just rarely significant. I'm sure that with a 6600k and a 2500k both running at 4.5GHz, the 6600k is going to give you anywhere from 1~4 more frames on average games, maybe even 9 or 10 frames on a super CPU intensive game, but it is probably not worth the upgrade just for that. Your best bet is to find some CPU benchmarks for the game that don't change anything besides the CPU. Even if you can't find a 2500k vs 6600k, something like a 3570k or 4670k vs 6600k could still shed some light. If the difference is very notable, then the difference will be slightly bigger yet with the 2500k.
>>343967109
ignore this man
>>343966980
It literally says at least 300W of PSU for the minimum requirements.
I would be even willing to give you a 300W PSU because I have one from my long forgotten 7 year old build that I salvaged for in case.
>>343967039
Oh and...
>750w for a fucking 970
>a 970
>Win10 for 100 USD
FUCKING START OVER!
>>343966980
1. Probably not
2. If you have a reasonably modern Intel CPU, you can probably get better performance out of its IGP than this piece of shit.
>>343967039
>970
>no ssd
>windows 10
>750w for such build
>Am I alright?
£800
Built it myself in 2 hours, Runs anything 1080 / 60 I throw at it easily, never had any issues with any of the parts, runs at 60 under load.
Now go ahead tell me why I should be unhappy with my purchases.
>>343966747
Oh and you can also get the windows 10 pro N version for 35 bucks
Though N versions have some media stuff removed though you can find better players by default
N versions do not include certain media related technologies (Windows Media Player, Camera, Music, Movies & TV) and does not include the Skype app.
Basically all shit you can find better software elsewhere anyways like mph-hc
>>343967491
>he fell for the 970 meme
>>343967208
>>343967473
If I change it to a 1080 and win 7 and add a fucking ssd
should I be alright?
>90% of this thread rolling 970s
>Rolling Intel (K) processors
>Evo Fans
Sup consolefags.
>>343967659
if you're not playing at 4k then a 1080 is overkill
drop win 10
use the money to get an ssd
also get a better case
wait for the 1060 to come out. if nothing else it'll drop prices on the 900 cards
>>343967473
Those things aren't all that ridiculous though. The only real issue here is whether or not the 750W will be able to handle the i7. Intel CPU's aren't known to be huge power suckers, iirc
>>343967659
if you want to stay on budget, get a 1070 or a rx480. if you have cash to burn, get a 1080. and yes add an ssd
>>343967753
>You have to be an AMD faggot to fit in with elitists
>Can't buy products that are popular
Ever considered WHY people buy those things you mentioned, retard?
/g/ seems to hate on the rx 480, what do you guys think of it?
>>343967039
>970
You're either a troll or a retard
As of now you're only options are 8gb 480 or 1070. Maybe a 390/390x if you can find a good price. They are superior to the 480
>>343930186
HOW BOUT THEM TRIPLE A GAMES
>DLC
>SEASON PASS
>PREORDER BONUS
>30FPS
>QTEs
>CUTSCENES>GAMEPLAY
>OPEN WORLD
>$60
>>343967874
>970 performance 2 years later and only $50 cheaper
yeah it's great
>>343940783
where do your knees go?
>>343967847
>>343967784
I have a Vive so I may need the extra headroom for it, my 960 does fine with it but do medium settings on the games.
>>343967792
Should I up it up then? don't want shit failing on me.
>>343967874
People don't like it because it's a mid range entry card. Yes it works but it just isn't the best so it's easy to hate on. I'll probably grab a sapphire version
>>343968049
Everyone forgets that it's 8gb and has future support.
>>343968024
>you're not allowed to buy 970 because /v/ doesn't like it
>muh 0.5 meme
970 exists for your average user, and they will see no problems with it
stop beating dead horse amdrone
>>343967039
1) get windows key off of kinguin for like 20 bucks
2) use that savings to get a 1070. if you must get a 970, get the evga ssc for 30 bucks less because its a better version
3) why spend 350 on a cpu and only 20 bucks to cool it
>>343967039
Once again. Do you NEED that i7? Do you have any reason whatsoever to specifically need hyper threading? Do you know what that is? If you need hyper threading, then you already know you do. If you have to ask, you do NOT need it. an i5 6600k will be 99.999% as good for your use case and cost $110 less. Swap it.
You don't need a stupid OEM key. Follow the advice at the bottom here
>>343966772
You don't have an SSD. Now take those $150 you saved and get a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB.
You're overpaying on the PSU. You don't need this $104 overkill device. If you want to maintain the same budget, swap the PSU for something like this
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZNXfrH/evga-power-supply-110b10750vr
Now take that money you saved and invest it into something else. That's $40 saved. You can throw it into the case if you don't specifically want the S340 and go into like a Fractal R5, or if you're happy with your case, you could invest it into getting a quality Noctua cooler. You could also go an extra mile and put in $100 more for a GTX 1070.
What do you think? Anything I should upgrade?
>>343968173
>8gb and has future support.
>AMD
>Future support
Oh I am laffin
>>343968125
if you want VR then you should be looking at the 1070
also a solid 750w is more than enough. you could run sli on that
>>343967659
>Windows
Anon... do you not have a single friend who is in school? Yes? Then go get a free win7/10 key idiot.No? Wow. What a fucking loner.
>1080
Do you even 4K?
>>343967874
>mid range
>need to gamble on crossfire for sub par 1080 performance on two cards
you tell me friend.
>>343967194
>>343967437
Like I said, every other place I look they say it works since it only draws 50W tops.
>>343968193
>please buy my shitty 3.5gb 970 that can't handle dx12 games and is on it's way out
nvidiots are pathetic
>>343968268
/g/ here. I endorse this advice.
>>343968173
people play games today not tomorrow
>>343968383
Well a mid range card for $250 and 1080p 60fps on latest games. Wouldnt that be ideal for less expensive builds?
>Buy AMD
>Be 2 years behind on graphics
>Have PC explode
>Get no drivers
>Creative narrative that AMD is for REAL PC gamers to justify your garbage purchases
Stop shilling this dead in the water company please
There is no reason to buy AMD, literally e v e r
>>343968442
let me know when dx12 actually becomes a thing.
protip: by then we'll have a new generation of cards anyways
>>343968289
Anyone?
>>343968749
install gentoo
>>343968581
It would be ideal, and yes AMD cards do tend to get better performance on the software side over time, but there are two things that still bother me
1. AMD's fetish-like obsession with delivering all data via PCIe with as little aid from things like PCIe power connectors or SLI/Xfire bridges. This shit is bad. Fuck AMD for doing this. Stop trying to overload people's fucking motherboards. MY PSU HAS 2 FUCKING PCIe POWER CONNECTORS. UTILIZE THE FUCKING PINS.
2. muh drivers/crashing
Where are my twin bros, I know you're all in here.
>>343968437
Perhaps.. but consider the rest of your computer
>>343968581
for 200 dollar 4 gig one, I would say yes.
the 1060 might try to compete for it, as Nvidia has yet to confirm that the MSRP will be 50-100 dollars below their estimated cost (assuming that their already provided cost offer is some sort of founders edition again)
>>343968289
perhaps get another 128gb SSD and do raid 1 or 0 if you got the change to spare or go bigger on a 256+gb ssd
Perhaps new ram as well. Will most likely need to upgrade the motherboard along with it.
>>343968291
>not supporting their newest card
What?
>>343968557
No way that actually works.
>>343968289
>>343968749
I'm running a similar setup. Difference is I have a 980 and a different mobo. As far as I know shouldn't have any problems for a while.
>>343968993
The Sapphire nitro has an 8 pin connector so that fixes the issue and amd just released a driver today that fixed the pci connecter issue aswell.
>>343969082
Would I see a big difference upgrading the ram? If so, what do you recommend?
>>343969082
>Perhaps.. but consider the rest of your computer
How reliable are PSU calculators like Cooler Master's? It tells me I have 30W to spare.
>>343968291
Did your retarded ass forget that from the 7k onwards amd cards have been going toe-to-toe with nvidia cards 2 gens newer?
>>343968749
>le 3d gaymen audio
Does that CPU have a good cooler? Is it overclocked? If no to either of these, get a good cooler and overclock it. Get an air cooler if you want great performance. Get a water cooler if you want hit or miss performance but great aesthetics, and want to spend double the money.
How about a new 3TB drive so you can have more storage space? Don't you want to store tons of anime, porn, video game installation iso's, and more? Don't you want to install much of your steam library onto another drive so you can access many games?
How about a new 500GB SSD? Do you play MMOs? Elder Scrolls / Fallout games with a shitton of mods? Other games with huge loading times like The Sims that are I/O monsters? If so, install them on the SSD. For The Sims, you can make Windows redirect the default C:\Documents\My Games mod storage location to another place on your big SSD instead, and install mods there. Google it.
How about a 2nd monitor?
In Windows 7, Aero's forced vsync on desktop would cause issues with having a 144Hz and a 60Hz display where it would cause horrible stuttering on occasion. Almost no one knows/talks about this. (for those curious you fix it by disabling and re-enabling Aero, or just disabling it for good) I THINK W10 no longer has that Aero vsync crap but I'm not 100% sure. Just a warning.
How about more RAM? 16GB is nice. You have a Samsung SSD. With the Samsung software, you can enable RAPID mode which dedicates 2GB RAM as a cache.
>>343969671
[Loaded AMDrone statement]
>>343969387
Nothing, unless you're doing video and image rendering. ram performance in terms of speeds improve only in long term, You could probably rock 1600mhz for the rest of your life, depending on where it goes.
Going for 16 gigs isnt a requirement, but it doesnt hurt, since ram is incredibly cheap at the moment. That's primarily why I recommend it. I program for work and for my own projects, so it sort of helps having more than 8 gigs.
>>343969467
I'm not entirely sure, sorry.
Consider additional things such as how much you'll be demanding from your hardware, how long it'll be running, etc etc.
>>343965154
>New set of cards
No
>>343969848
Yeah the Sennheiser Audio is just my headphones, got a great deal on them from work. I've been thinking about getting another drive, thanks man.
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