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>""""""competitive"""""" Overwatch
How do we fix this?
Use highlander rules.
You don't because it's the Mario Party of FPSes and was designed with consoles in mind from the beginning
People who want their games to be competitively viable are the cancer killing the industry
>>343868376
Pick/Ban
>>343868376
By not playing a shitty game
>>343868436
>use highlander rules
>it's the same 6 heroes every match instead of the same 3 heroes every match
good job
well maybe the tournaments can place hero limits?
no, how could I think of that? must be blizzards fault
So...
should I bother buying this game?
I liked TF2 until F2P shat it all up.
Will I be able to enjoy this for as long as TF2 lasted?
And how is the community?
>>343868493
That's stupid. It's not Dota, there's only a handful of heroes, and all the most popular picks now will be guaranteed bans then. Everyone will have to play the shittier heroes.
>>343868525
Yes, and? I just made the game TWO TIMES better. What do YOU suggest?
>>343868376
>people complain about SFV
>Top 8 is still fairly diverse and plenty of characters have gotten 1st place
>people dickride Overwatch
>meta is already stale as fuck
kek
>Mfw I said that Winston was good back in beta and no one I played with believed me
>>343868498
>stop liking what i dont like!
>>343868701
I suggest you kill yourself.
>>343868376
This is like that pokemon championship battle.
>>343868376
Is it really this bad? I dont play it because I dont trust blizz with any sort of competitive game but it seems like this sort of thing would be inevitable unless the balance was 100% perfect, which is pragmatically impossible.
>>343868616
Depends on how willing the Blizz are to support the game with content updates. Especially maps. Just hope it's not on par with the latest WoW expansions, where content patches last for a year or more.
>>343868742
What happened to Chun-Li?
>>343868763
After you.
>>343868746
I said Zarya was good and no one believed me
>>343868903
it's a mod to get Juri early. They dropped her mode for the story mode update, but her moveset feels incomplete as fuck.
>>343868746
It's nothing to do with good. If you notice each of those characters has been chosen for one purpose:
getting back to the point as fast as possible.
Winston also has the added bonus of not having to aim against the fast characters.
>>343868751
no, it's more like me telling you that you have shit taste in vidya, and you sperging out like a manchild over it
Game's not even been out a month. Reminds me of Rainbow Six Siege. It was all Rook/Jaeger/Castle and Thermite/Ash, but is now fairly balanced with only one operator that's completely useless and only one who's completely OP. And that's only in 6 months.
>>343869001
>mod the game to get characters that aren't finished
>"wtf they aren't finished"
I don't get this mindset from some people
>>343869001
Because she's literally not finished and you autists are already making combo vids like that's her final version
what the competitive soya milk sissies are doing has no impact on the game most all play
>but m.. muh meta
demap yourself
>>343869129
Doesn't matter, you can guarantee that all three of those heroes are getting nerfed soon* (in Blizzard terms)
The game is literally balanced around playing classes that don't have to aim accurately and move fast
Try playing genii hanzo or mcree vs a pharah whose mobility renders you useless since a battle with her is a competition of if you can hit her whilst she flies around in the sky faster than she can shoot the ground around you killing you with splash damage
Oh and if she thinks she's losing lmao concussion to blow you or herself away.
Same with Lucio, he's stupidly hard to hit and if you miss a shot he's healed half the damage you've done in the time between the next one whilst sliding around like an asshole
>>343868376
Game metas take a while to establish. It is still early.
>>343868742
>meta is already stale as fuck
No meta has been established at all.
>>343869067
>fairly balanced with only one operator that's completely useless and only one who's completely OP
Who?
Hi why the fuck do I get shit FPS drops in this shit game?
I have EVERYTHING on low and my frames drop to like 30 during fights and I hove around 50-70 with no combat
>>343869872
Get a 1080 you poorfag
>>343869872
specs?
>>343868627
and you would get a bigger variety of heroes played instead of the same 3 every time
>>343869942
i5 2500k OC'd
960 gtx 4gb
>>343869872
because the game is optimized like shit
>>343870034
This is some school grader logic.
No, there won't be a bigger variety of heroes. there will be just different 3 heroes played every time.
>>343870056
>>343869872
Turn off fog and dynamic reflections
>>343868493
This. People can't be trusted to not be retarded.
>>343870056
>2500k
what year is it? Skylake CPUs are out, poorfag.
>>343868493
That's so dumb.
>>343868616
There is no community.
>>343869872
Get a PS4.
>>343870125
no, sorry
those three heroes are always picked because they excel in too many areas at once. when you get rid of them teams are forced to pick and choose between what they need at a given moment. you would see more heroes on the rotation rather than the same three every time.
l2play
Fix the impossibility of winning KOTH without Lucio instead.
>>343870150
Yeah, let's spend 500 dollars for literally 10% improvement in the 6 games that use the CPU that much.
>yfw a 4790k is faster than any 4 core skylake in gaming
>>343868376
Remove hero stacking from tournament games
Remove king of the hill maps from tournament games
Nerf Lucio's healing outside of e give him something else to compensate (they learned this in HotS as well making the best healer the healer with a passive aoe heal is bad design).
That would be a good start
>>343869308
lmao no, game metas in modern games take about a week to shape
>>343870056
Something is wrong.
You should be able to run way higher.
Check power management settings, run 3dmark. See if your GPU is being utilized.
>>343870303
And a week to forget
Are there any good top-down maps out there? I just want to learn the god damn maps without wandering around them solo. I barely ever play a character that'd benefit from being in the various houses and hallways in maps, as soon as I enter one I'm instantly lost and confused
I could also do with learning where all the medkits are too
>>343868376
Make fucking Lucio heals not stack, and the whole thing falls apart.
>>343868493
This. A good pick and ban system could encourage meta growth and not interfere with strategy or line ups too hard.
People who say otherwise are basically wanting the game to be perfectly balanced which it never will be.
>>343868376
I'm having fun with competitive mode itself although it is very grindy, but fuck those esport streams they are so boring always same shit, its why I stopped watching LoL cause it is just so bland
>>343868742
Meta has changed at least 3 times tho. It's still pretty early.
>>343870390
Do they?
I thought they pick two Lucios for a speed bonus+heal.
>>343870357
just keep playing. you'll learn eventually. it's not like the game has many maps anyway.
Competitive is so fucking boring and annoying. I don't know how people can honestly say to themselves with a straight face that it's fun. This game was not designed for a competitive environment, at least not in its current state.
>>343869073
>>343869116
I'm not complaining, I'm just warning anyone who would want to mod. I only played her during the mandatory story mode fight.
>>343870564
It's not designed for any environment. It's boring as fuck.
>>343870564
I don't know how they let competitive ship without stopping hero stacking
It so obviously breaks the game in half if almost any of the cast are stacked
Not to mention the glaring issues with coin flips and half the maps being shit for comp
>>343870564
it was supposed to be a quarantine for tryhards but that hasn't stopped them from running the same boring comps in QM
>>343870150
2500k @ 4,4 and 780 here. Runs on 144fps like all the time.
>inb4 60fps
>inb4 skylake is soooo much better it's not.
>>343868376
By balancing the game consistently. Right now we have.
>Half the cast are situational and work really well in one scenario but poorly the other 90% of the time ex. bastion, symmetra, mei
>Half are all rounders that work in almost every situation ex. 76, tracer, genji
If they want to stick to the RPS combat the latter needs to be rebalanced from the ground up and given distinct counters they can't win against. Disabling hero stacking would improve things significantly as well.
>>343868376
>Complains because comp overwatch boils down to Lucio, Lucio, Winston, Winston, Tracer, Tracer
>TF2 6's are just Scout, Scout, Soldier, Soldier, Demo, Medic
>>343870818
Should an all-rounder ever be able to beat a situational character in their element?
>>343868376
unless they implement 1 character locks the competitive scene will fall flat on it's face.
>>343868376
idk why they don't just make it so there's only 1 hero allowed per team. Or at the very least only one double hero
>>343870867
Yeah, they're both shit? And?
>>343870339
Alright I set my power management settings to prefer Performance.
Thanks friend, I was so fucking confused as to why it was running like shit but now I'm getting 150+.
I am so shit with computers
>watch overwatch pro play
>enemy players spot each other but don't engage becasue they will get fucked up by overwhelming damage if they move out of their safe spaces
>game is them taking pot shots at eachother for a good while until one of them fucks up or the ult is off cooldown
>>343869129
>i play with non-optimally choosing retards
k
>>343870390
lucio heals don't stack already.
>>343870867
>4/9 classes in tf2
>3/21 heros in overwatch
Not to mention the fact that every class in tf2 can be at some point of the game, while there are heros in overwatch that are completely useless.
>>343870867
>TF2 6's are just Scout, Scout, Soldier, Soldier, Demo, Medic
In a game with 9 classes as opposed to a game with 21 heroes, yes.
4/9 is WAY better than 3/21 anyway, I don't know what you're getting at
>>343870867
The other classes aren't weak though, in fact it's actually the opposite without bans they're so good at denying aggression they slow the game to a crawl.
Having a heavy on field means anyone who jumps instantly gets shredded and 450 health is no joke. That doesn't make for exciting comp matches. That's why they're delegated to the final point for last stands.
>>343871142
Wow it's almost like moba pro play who would've thought!
>Overwatch allows same heroes on the same team
>League and DOTA don't
Guess which ones are considered more balanced.
>>343871454
>sniper
>doesn't counter everything
How do you protect yourself from a one-shot hitscan weapon?
>>343871392
>>343871454
4/9 using Stock and ignoring all the other items/weapons. It's basically the same as 3/21 heroes.
>>343871632
With coverAnd another sniper
Sniper is not a rare pick in 6v6
>>343868835
With the case of op's pic, imagine koth in an fps but the players are all sprinting around the point with dashes and speed boosts, 4 of them holding down left click with an auto aim aoe gun and dropping bullet proof barriers, while 4 of them also provide aoe speed/heal so one can get hit and constantly heals, with 4 of them having dashes with almost no cool down
>>343871725
Does Overwatch not have a 5CP equivalent?
>>343870908
Only by outplaying them or having their team back them up
Like bastion's practically ohko if you walk him front of him is fine, because if you coordinate you can still kill him
>>343870818
>mei
>situational and work really well in one scenario but poorly the other 90%
What game are you playing? She completely locks down points and destroys any chance of overtime/last minute pushes.
>>343869294
Pharah has literally no speed while flying and hitscan rapes her, a good mcree can kill her in 3 hits and widow only needs to hit her 2 times in the body
>>343871871
No.
>>343868376
No stacking.
Damn, that was hard.
>>343871454
shit chart, it reaches too hard to force a one class one counter theme
>pyro is a soft counter to spy despite being built to spycheck
>soldier counters nothing despite countering engy nests almost as well as demo
Why does overwatch have a defense and offense map?
It makes no sense in a 6 v 6 matchup, you lose a single player and the tide is like 15% in your favor immediately.
>>343871632
This is how the counters IDEALLY are not what they actually are, unlocks have fucked everything up over the years because valve doesn't have a good understanding of the meta. Hopefully comp will fix this.
>>343871673
The game is more exciting with less classes though. If you want to see what a clusterfuck having 4 defense classes on the field at all times looks like, watch some HL. Sniper alone makes peeking a death sentence. The same isn't true for overwatch because the skill ceiling is so low. Wow winston killed a tracer with his auto aim laser gun how exciting.
>>343869294
Pharah moves so slowly in the air she might as well be stationary, and her splash damage might as well be tickling you for all the damage it does.
>>343868493
>Ban Mercy/Lucio
>Teams are now useless
>>343870056
>960 gtx 4gb
Ha. You poor, dumb faggot.
>>343869683
>completely useless
Tachanka
>completely OP
Blackbeard
>>343872106
>stock sniper rifle
>an unlock
>unlocks
>bad
>defending the retarded 6v6 meta
>>343872158
>can only ban 1 support 1 defense 1 offense 1 tank
>something that would stop widow from being the one ban pick in every game
>yfw the wolf ult has a 1 second delay on the voice call so it can't be avoided.
>>343872158
>ban mercy/lucio
>teams are now entirely Soldier 76
>>343872369
just give it a laser pointer as soon as he triggers it so everyone sees where it's going
it's bullshit standing behind a wall only to get killed before he even says anything
>>343871915
>She completely locks down points and destroys any chance of overtime/last minute pushes.
Any tank with a shield shuts her down completely.
>>343872073
>pyro is a soft counter to spy despite being built to spycheck
He is though, in a 1v1 spy vs pyro is actually pretty close. Revolver is a deceptively strong weapon if you can aim. What makes spy vs pyro so one sided in games is because the spy is always surrounded by multiple enemies, not just pyro.
>soldier counters nothing despite countering engy nests almost as well as demo
Soldier can't stack his damage like demo can though, engineer repairs faster than rockets can do damage.
>>343872483
>give a laser pointer so now no one can die to it
Great, did you suggest the d.va ult nerf too?
Remove the 'PRESS Q TO HAVE 5 SECONDS OF FAME' ability.
>>343872549
>ults should be free kills with no stopping them
I bet you like tracer's sticky bomb, too
>Defense on Hanamura
>One player plays Mei
>Puts a fucking wall into the chokepoint while we have a Roadhog, Junkrat and Soldier 76
>Proceed to lose because the chokepoint lost all meaning and the wall works in favor of the enemy team.
I'm honestly getting tired of fucking Meis. Fuck every single one of them.
>>343872278
Stock sniper isn't really the issue though, his unlocks are.
>Every secondary he has removes one of his counters.
This right here is by far the most broken weapon in the game. The razorback is what makes sniper the strongest class in HL.
>>343872585
>he can't shoot the tire
wew lad
>>343872369
>Can't be avoided
If you have a good lucio he will speed boost everyone out of it.
>>343872663
>ults should only be usefull if the entire team lines them all up together in a giant fuck you cloud that will only be used to win them the game at the last second
>>343872728
>implying they won't just shoot him before he can react
>>343872758
No like the wolf shit can come from behind a wall and the ult will be called right after it appears.
>>343872728
just pull out the ambassador, headshot then body shot?
razorback is terrible
>>343872728
t. Spy main
>>343872850
>>343872842
Sniper always has overheals, stays by the sentry gun, or both.
Ambassador does not solve the problem.
>>343871142
pretty much. capture maps revolve around waiting for your team's ults to be up and popping them on the point at the same time.
>>343872132
everyone but Tracer moves so slowly it's not really an issue. it's extremely easy to lead shots and get direct hits. if you're out in the open and don't have a built in dash/escape it's literally impossible to get away from Pharah.
>>343871673
Except not all other items are ignored.
Off the top of my head: kritz, ubersaw, crossbow, winger, black box, quickiebomb, loose cannon, pain train, iron bomber, market gardener, basher, gunboats, vac, conch, cozy camper, shahansha, razerback, amby, cloak and dagger, flare, degreaser, and overdose all see use in 6s.
>>343872850
Yes in anything not highlander
but in highlander where the team sits on eachother it's unstoppable.
>>343872850
just use the regular revolver and do it in three
it's not like sniper players actually react to being shot anyway
>>343868376
overwatch is fucking trash now
>nobody plays quick play now because of competitive mode
This would be fine if the ranking system wasn't completely retarded.
>if your teammate leaves the match you either play with less teammates or lose a rank
>one loss = one rank down
>on rank down = lower ranked teammates until you rank up
>you can lose multiple ranks in a row if someone on your team decides to leave, meaning you'll only have shitter teammates
the only people who enjoy this are the retards who don't care about any objectives and only want k:dr
>>343872842
>>343872850
>>343872935
>>343873040
Highlander basically revolves around keeping the sniper safe, it's a joke
>>343873079
>nobody plays quick play now
What? I keep getting fast queues as always
>>343872935
>Playing the worst class in the game
>Playing the most boring comp gamemode
>>343871632
PRO TIP:
Heavy can cover his head with his arms by aiming the minigun at the sky. Literally THAT technique. Wavedashing to school tier
>>343873079
AND ALSO
>you can't leave a match or you'll get banned for the season and earn 75% less XP
>>343873126
Yeah, I meant to say nobody plays it for the objective anymore. With nobody trying to win you basically earn no XP and just get shit on
>>343873268You're full of shit?
>>343873360
No he's right, it's an actual strat.
Several classes can look straight up and block headshots with their arms. There's a video of it on youtube.
>>343868376
Yep I knew this will happened, becuase of course, its a no brainer. Glad I didnt waste my money.
>>343873568
How's this of any concern to you?
It's the """pro""" cybersport team comp. It's not like you ever gonna be in one of them.
This meta doesn't reflect the state of the random matches, which you belong in.
>People were looking forward to this
>>343868376
>MOBA
>any hero can be picked multiple time
blizzard at it again with game design.
>>343873360
and you can call for medic to avoid headshots
TF2 is great
>>343873724
>implying
>projecting
>literal proof the game has severe balance issues
>not concern
and it will only get worse
>>343873831
This is some next level shit right there.
I need to try that.
>>343873831
>and you can call for medic to avoid headshots
I saw a video of this happening once, but I never saw it again and now I can't find it
Got a link?
>>343873871
>meme arrows
It's not the balance issue (while they're still in the game). It's the issue of the rigid ARBITRARY meta compfags had inflicted upon themselves.
>>343868376
Why not just do a draft disallowing duplicates on the same team.
>>343868376
Reduce the amount of healing Lucio does on himself or remove it completely.
>>343874037
Why not highlander 21v21
Would be fun but it'll never happen
Plus blizzard will never make maps that big
>>343874004
Why didnt you say you are a casual weekend player right in the beginning?
>tfw ster is becoming more and more pessimistic about the game
>>343874145
>plays OW
>thinks he's not a casual weekend player to begin with
The joke is on you, my friend.
>>343874202
Who
>""""competitive""""
>>343874314
Guy in the OP. was a big tf2 comp guy or something,hes pretty alright if you ask me
>>343874202
Well he has been playing it pretty much 24/7
>>343874206
Did you already forget the start of this conversation? I didnt buy it. Just how short attention span do you have, buddy?
Let me guess, you are american.
>>343874314
The most prominent TF2 youtuber.
D.Va buff soon, lads
(this is the only thread I can think of to drop this off in besides /vg/)
>>343868376
>not wanting more matches with 4+ Tracers on a side
>not wanting an army of Tracers piling on the point to extend Overtime forever
Working as intended.On the downside, D.Va seems like she's actually good against certain team compositions.
>>343874405
Nice projecting.
>all these shitters wanting to remove stacking
>all these shitters wanting a tracer nerf
It's like you hate fun. I hope Blizzard never listens to you.
>>343874384
>>343874408
Oh okay.
A lot of TF2 players I personally know just stopped playing because they realized how slow and shit the game was.
Cyzer and Dave__ac stopped playing because of how shit it is.
>>343874450
Source?
>>343874450
>reaper
>not killing a D.VA in 3 shots
Does this artist even know what reaper does?
>>343874450
Not soon enough
God I really want to know how blizzard will handle buffs. It better not be something incredibly small and unnoticible
>>343868376
Huh, some 6 queue I went up against used this exact lineup. Good thing we beat those tryhard homos
>>343874582
more than you apparently, if you boost and melee with d.va you will knock players back stupid far and sometimes off cliffs.
It's like the only way for d.va to get a consistant kill.
>>343874582
Looks like the lighthouse point on Ilios. He gets thrown over the edge by D.va's charge before he could do anything.
Do you even know what D.va does? I won't judge you if you don't, because let's face it, why would you?
>>343874565
Me
>>343874582
I know what he does, I'm just recounting something that happened when I first started playing
>>343874641
Mate have you played Blizzard games before?
Buff = making it fucking godlike
Nerf = Never see it in play ever again
>>343874473
>he doesnt even know what projecting means
>>343874708
Hello? Spooky ghost form? Dva goes right through him
>>343874754
Fuck off then
>>343874489
I think the only reason they didn't get rid of stacking for comp is because the second some instalocks genji/hanzo/widowmaker, in 90% of games you'll end up with a shit storm between mainers and someone will leave.
>>343874565
Blizzard said that they wanted to buff D.Va in a small way soon.
>>343874776
he obviously spooky ghost formed to get on the point when no one was looking.
D.va though is not spookeled because she wears an exo skeleton that eminates spooky vibes that de-resonate the ghost spooky vibes, hense the exo skeleton. That's why she was able to combat the spooky ghost.
It's pretty basic stuff that anyone playing for a few days would know.
>>343874839
>in a small way soon.
>get a small buff
>wow it's nothing
>have to wait 2 more months before they try another small buff
>>343874095
Lucio only outperforms Mercy koth. If you do that all that will happen is that Mercy becomes the only viable support period.
>>343870274
>tfw
I don't think I'll need to upgrade this CPU for a long time.
>zenyatta can throw his ult on allies so they recieve invuln and the heal around them
>zenyatta can do what he normally does when the ult is active
>but if he dies the ult ends
fixeder ronnie?
>increase hero pool by 10
>add pick/ban phase
>limit to 2 max of hero and only 1 max pair
The game is new, remember? They'll fix it
>>343874976
>Someone out there thought this was acceptable to post
Go back to tumblr jesus christ.
>>343875235
>proven wrong
>go back to tumblr
>>343868376
You can't. The game was designed from the ground up to be this way and has a forced "competitive" scene.
Same team compositions is the only way to go because of how fucking unbalanced all the characters are. It's basically a "competitive" fps with 3 weapons in it.
>>343875030
It'll probably be something like a smaller critical hitbox or a little bit more movement speed while firing.
>>343875234
>Nu-Blizzard
>fixing
>>343871612
but doesn't league allow opponents to pick same heroes as you? Or did they change that
>>343868376
How do casters even keep track of a game with 4 tracers + 4 Lucios
>>343875527
they've said they think her issue is she isn't tanky enough, nothing about her damage.
>>343875234
here is a way to fix it
unique heroes per team
sniper wallhack ult removed (no place in a competitive game)
>>343875631
Game goes so slow that it doesn't seem that hard.
>>343875664
Yeah as a D.Va main, I have no problems with her damage ,it's just she seems too squishy right now to be a "tank."
>nerf mcmeme
>tracer now running rampant
>everything except the hero that requires absolutely no aim cant deal with her reliably
>only thing that can sustain double rapeape is double healer
WEW
>>343868564
They already do this. The pro scene implemented a 1 hero limit because of shit like OPs pic
>>343874381
and even on the RARE chance you win a match where nobody left the game, it will still take you FOUR fucking wins to rank up
meanwhile ranking down takes one loss
>>343868564
I think most do have it already
But the 100k one isn't going to, or something
So I guess other tournaments will follow as practice
>>343874450
>those shitty korean translations
is that part of the meme
>>343868376
What is the point of having two Lucios anyway? Their Auras don't stack do they?
>>343870231
You really overestimate competitive Overwatch. Three more heroes will just replace them. People just want to win, so they'll find the best combination of heroes to do that, and it'll more than likely just be 3 different heroes.
Even if you force 1 hero per team, you'll just see the same 6 at top level play. Unless you force some type of rotation, or disable used heroes after each round so the same hero can't be played consecutively, I don't think it'll change.
>>343876146
One to focus on speed, the other to focus on healing
if shit gets bad, take turns amping up the healing, since it doesn't stack
>>343868376
>competitive
kek
>>343875876
I said this would happen months ago and nobody listened. Tracer is scout on easy mode in a game where splash damage and juggling doesn't exist, genius blizzard.
>>343875626
He's talking about ranked, which has a pick/ban stage before the match and there can only be one of each character during it
>>343868376
>overwatch
lmaoing
>>343872997
esea weapon bans are pretty out of control. etf2l allows for a lot more variety.
There has been plenty of criticism over weapon bans as well, and matchmaking is looking to free up all but the most bullshit weapons anyway.
>>343868376
lmao pretending to be a pro at this is just sad
winning at special olympics means you´re still a fucking retard.
are grown ass men for real trying to make a career out of white people anime coz i mean like that´s some brony level cringe right there
>>343876389
>>343876303
please delete this. this game is more skilled than quake
>>343876146
To take turns amping and having different auras really.
>>343868763
>gets good answer for his question
>is mad for no reason
>starts writing bullshit
how much hair between the buttcheecks must a man have to be such a retard?
>>343876407
What are you talking about? ESEA overall allows way more weapons than ETF2L.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Competitive_item_restrictions
>>343868376
i want to watch this match, where i can do it
>>343875876
I feel like this game is so fundamentally
>hero switching is supposed to be encouraged
>lose ult charge on switch
I feel like dodging a bullet
Anyone here feels same?
>>343876407
>>343876657
>Rugby League
>Rugby Union
I hate when events have different rules for the same goddamn game. Make up your goddamn minds.
>>343876709
so fucked fundamentally*
All I want is more tanks that are more fun to play. Reinhart is so fucking boring to play yet hes the most viable.
>>343876709
Well yeah, you'd otherwise have half a team of mercy's and half a team of roadhogs; that switch to Zarya the second they build an ultimate.
>>343876478
Funny you say that
Harbleu in that picture is a gay Pokémon roleplayer who dates a tranny.
He's a Vaporeon.
>>343876749
yea feels good
>>343876750
One is Europe and one is NA.
>>343876520
comparing this to AWP or Railgun gameplay makes me just sad. what a fucking casual title
>>343875235
Since it wasn't clear, I just wanna point out it's just the creator's recreation of something that happened to him in a game. So it's just some dumb Reaper player getting out played/being bad
>>343868564
They do though. The tournaments supported by Blizzard are the ones that don't have limits which kind of sets a precedent for the others.
The designers are stubborn as fuck.
>>343876782
Hot monkey dick and Roadhog are pretty fun.
>>343874450
I want to do D.Va'smech
>>343876657
check whitelist.tf, they have an actual up to date version.
>>343876832
its actually more comparable to skills shots in league than real fps mechanics.
>>343876950
Roadhog is my favorite. But Hes useless as the tank role on maps that arent KOTH. And yeah Winston is great. Reinhart is like cemented as godly thougb
>>343876520
useless without showing ping/quality of connection.
but nice try 2/10
So what happened to that claim that your damage output gets reduced if you are on a winstreak, and increased when you are on a losing streak?
>>343877087
Hit detection is client side the fuck does connection have to do with it
Only one set of two of the same hero is allowed.
>>343877014
Its strange to me they ban things like the candy cane which makes scout soldier food but not things like the booties that make demo extremely strong on some maps.
>>343877175
It means he's a LoLtard who has never played a FPS before
>>343872941
>MFW The spy has been in needing of a buff for the longest of time.
All the fucker needs is a small speed/ Jump height boost and the abilty to Roll or throw the sapper like in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RfPf8887Uyes I know the video here in question is Memetastic but its the only one I could find on short notice.
>>343877283
Scouts melt the demos generally and it's free health at that point. Booties give up an extremely valuable weapon so have fun without it
>>343877185
Not sure if the game has that many characters yet to allow it to be anything more than a mirror anyways.
There is a best in situation character, and both teams will use that one
>>343877175
its not client side in overwatch
It's because king of the hill shouldn't be a competitive mode.
>>343877283
Booties trade pure dps for survivability like gunboats. I wouldn't consider them ban worthy but they could use a nerf, even if they can't truly replace a demo with good pipe aim
Candy cane is just becasue leagues hate any type of weapon or unlock that can heal a team without a medic.
>>343877135
a minor bug. it only happens on this door on this map
>>343868376
This applies to most multiplayer games, you know.
Infect decks in MTG would be even more common if they weren't so expensive
Pretty much every fighting game has optimal characters, strategies and combos. (why bother getting good with anyone that's not a Mishima?)
>>343877321
never played league faggot it's just funny how triggered you get if somebody compares overwatch with league
Normal ladder is fun, the meta isn't as stale except for a mercy in every match.
People on rank 65+ take the game seriously, double anything on payload maps is rendered useless as it's counterpicked immediately and team comps against sudden death cheeses are viable even against normal a comp.
Koth is just broken overall though.
>>343877435
I enjoy KOTH over shit maps like Numbani and Gibraltor where the chokepoints and design are insufferable. Seriously FUCK those maps
>competitive
All I want is more maps and heroes. I couldn't care less about "esports"
>>343868742
>fighting game
>diversity
had good laugh mate
>>343868376
I haven't seen that team comp in months. was this recent?
>>343877660
>double anything on payload maps is rendered useless as it's counterpicked immediately
>people go always double soldier
>b-b-but its useless
sweet little lies how much do you get payed per post?
>>343877769
better comp scene = more players = more support
>>343877907
Esports are a joke. Starcrumps are a plague that have moved to infest every multiplayer game.
>>343877742
They designed every map to be like Dustbowl
>>343877830
Yes. Same event that had Triple D.Va countering 2-2-2 on Volskaya. And Route 66 with 8 Tracers fighting each other. It's anarchy.
>>343876520
This is how I feel like when playing Widow...
Anything I can do against it?
Ping: 25ms
70 FPS
>>343877863
>double soldier
>pick roadhog+zarya/winston, reaper or tracer
WOW THAT WAS HARD
>>343877582
The problem in this case is that the meta is extremely unfun and cheesy. It can be prevented with hero limits.
>every map is chokepoint haven
>aiming isn't required
>Be amateur competitive in another game
>Try out OW free beta because friend gives me early access key
>Play game
>Find out it literally plays like a watered-down MOBA from an FPS perspective with TF2 ripoff game modes
This is only popular because Blizzard is big and propping it up with money, I am convinced. There's no skill ceiling to speak of, that is to say, if you can move your mouse, you can pretty much learn all the tricks of Overwatch at once. There is literally more outplay potential in League of Legends, and that's saying something. Basically, everything boils down to how well the two teams mesh, and that makes a game no fun at all. While team play should count for a lot, I've never played a game quite like Overwatch where it's as hard to carry no matter how much better / smarter you are over every player in your match.
>inb4 "ur a shitter"
Look into your heart and you know this to be true
>>343876520
he's shooting the railing, you can't actually shoot through there at that sharp an angle
>>343878169
Not him but those characters would only work against him in small maps like KOTH ones. You can't counter a soldier with any of those if the map is long like a payload map.
>>343868376
Didn't follow how's the competitive game is doing but I though that forbidding having twice the same character in a team was a given.
REQUESTING OMLETTE DU FROMAGE
REQUESTING OMLETTE DU FROMAGE
>>343877830
that game was grand final for some tourney
I think it happened yesterday
It really makes you think huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Msn6Bpaxc
>>343878973
Where are my ults and abilities? This doesn't look right.
>>343876520
>trying to shoot a girl in the gooch instead of just the titties
Well there's your problem.
>>343879196
>not trying to shoot a girl in the gooch
>>343878368
I know you're right and that's the worst part. I played the opened beta, had fun, bought the game on release and played for maybe a week before I realized how shit it is, then stopped completely. The game is fucking abysmal. Everything feels so boring and dull.
It's literally Baby's First FPS.
>>343876163
fairly sure the lineup would be Lucio Winston Pharah Roadhog Tracer and(you)in op's picture
>>343876709
>>343876809
Why not have ult charge tied to each individual hero? So if you're at 20% when you switch to a new hero you'll have 0% on that new guy, but if you switch back to the first you regain the 20% you had before you switched.
Hell that could add an entire new level of strategical depth to the game by essentially letting you "bank" a clutch ultimate on another hero for when you need it to turn the game around.
If not, ult could always degrade when not actively playing as that hero.
>>343878973
Jesus Christ, watching this then OW footage makes me feel sad almost. OW is so safe it hurts.
>>343872373
>We're all soldiers now
>We're all soldiers now
>We're all soldiers now
>We're all soldiers now
>We're all soldiers now
>We're all soldiers now
>>343870056
>mfw fx 6300 and r9 390
>60 fps with everything on ultra
lol 960
>>343878368
>MOBA
You never played it at all.
>>343881658
>I can't differentiate elements from assfaggots game and assume this to mean the creep - tower mechanic because that's the one missing from this game
Every character is designed as if they were meant to be played in a MOBA game but it lacks depth compared to such games like League of Legends, once again, why I claim it has less outplay potential than that game. Why do these characters all need to feel so asymetric and weak individually? Why does it feel like the tickrate on Smite's servers are better than Overwatch? I have so many questions about this game and why it was made to be this fucking casual, but to claim it doesn't have disgusting similarities to a MOBA game in the worst ways is absolutely wrong.
>>343882063
>characters have abilities so its a MOBA!
Yeah, nah, you're full of shit sorry.
pretending something is interesting is OW casters jobs, I'm certain they'll be able to handle it
>>343881658
>Overwatch
>not a multiplayer online battle arena
>>343882340
That terminology is so generic you could call any team based pvp game a moba.
>>343882307
Dude, if you don't get a sense that this game plays like an assfaggots game from an FPS perspective you're kidding yourself. This whole game suffers from an identity crisis and more than anything else this game's fights feel EXACTLY like teamfights in other MOBA titles albeit more shallow and boring.
>>343882610
I miss ARTS
>>343878125
>>343877830
Well if it bothers you just exclusively watch the tournies with 1 hero limits.
>>343882687
>Official tournaments run no-limit rules
>Interest from player talent in HL rules OW tournies dwindle
>Tournaments become lower quality
It's like you can't into /esports/
>blizzard tournies won't run stopwatch because their fanbase doesn't understand it
>>343868616
It's great if you've got a group of mates to play with just for fun, otherwise solo queuing and competitive is garbage. Like the other anon said, Mario party of FPS
>>343882617
I get the sense that it plays like an FPS with some special abilities, nothing even remotely MOBA like.
>>343883208
Well thanks for letting me know where you're coming from, now I can ignore your opinion because you have shit taste
>>343878368
>>343882063
>>343882617
You're wrong dude. LoL is a MOBA, DotA is a MOBA, HotS is a MOBA. Overwatch is a team based shooter with skills and ultimates. It has no creeps, no towers, no farming/grinding, no bosses. It plays like a first person shooter.
>>343868376
Release dedicated servers so people don't have to deal with the cancer of competitive to try to play with half decent people.
>>343883776
Did you ignore everything I wrote in my second post? The game feels like a watered-down shooter because the action is limited by characters who feel like they were designed to be in an ARTS-MOBA game.
>>343884067
Just because you say that they were designed to be MOBA characters does not make them that. The designers designed to characters to play differently and counter one another.
You could just say that the characters were designed to be fighting characters, it doesn't mean anything.
There are counters, there are abilities and there are ultimates. These features are not exclusive to MOBA's. MOBA is a genre with very specific mechanics and gameplay.
Overwatch is not a MOBA in the same way that TF2 is not a MOBA. They're team based shooters.
>>343883078
>tfw you wanted to like OW but all your friends already dropped the game and now you have no reason to play
I wish I was good at fighting games. OW reminded me how much I hate relying on randoms.
>>343884260
Yeah, but here's a key mechanical difference between TF2 and OW
>TF2 characters seldom rely on cooldown based abilities
>OW characters do
This aspect is usually only exhibited in RPG games OR in the case of PvP based games, MOBA games / WoW. At most in other FOS games cooldowns are far more tangential, whereas they're front and center in Overwatch, and to make matters worse, there is an incredibly low skill ceiling for mechanics and outplay in the game anyway. It's casual as fuck.
>>343882959
pretty pathetic
>>343874582
>Reaper needs to get into her face to be effective
>D.Va needs to get into someones face to be effective
>Roadhog gets fucking wrecked by D.Va if he hooks her at full HP
>Reaper thinks he's gonna survive her
>>343884524
As I said, abilities are not exclusive to MOBA's. And the gameplay and objectives of Overwatch are vastly different than actual MOBA's. I would agree with you if you said that Overwatch was a shooter with MOBA "elements" but saying that it's a MOBA is just wrong. A game having abilities and different characters does not necessarily make it a MOBA.
>there is an incredibly low skill ceiling for mechanics and outplay in the game anyway. It's casual as fuck.
That's a seperate argument. It does not relate to the discussion.
>>343884742
Your reading comprehension is conveniently bad to be continuing these circular arguments.
How does
>Usually
Translate to
>Exclusively
In your mind?
I am criticizing the role abilities play in Overwatch and how it hampers the game as a shooter with MOBAs being my comparison.
>>343884946
Your ad hominem isn't any help either.
>I am criticizing the role abilities play in Overwatch and how it hampers the game as a shooter with MOBAs being my comparison.
No, you're saying that Overwatch is a MOBA which is what I'm disputing.
I'll ask you this then. Would you call DMC games character action games, hack and slash games or role-playing games? I mean you do roleplay as a character, you go through their story. So surely they're role-playing games right?
Just because games have different features from different genres does not make them a game of that genre itself. The main gameplay is what decides which game fits into which genre. And Overwatch's gameplay does not fit into the MOBA genre. That's all.
>>343885446
Your idiocy makes me wonder why I'm staying up this late to argue with you instead of going to bed. Did someone in high school just teach you about the phrase "ad hominem", because your whole post is a strawman which shows a clear misunderstanding of my criticisms about the game, which you are so quick to frame and then incorrectly refute. You literally took the time to copy and paste my own words, then state that I'm saying something completely different from what I just said to CLEAR UP your previous misunderstanding. Are you a blizzdrone?
>>343885754
>Your reading comprehension is conveniently bad to be continuing these circular arguments.
>Your idiocy makes me wonder why I'm staying up this late to argue with you instead of going to bed
>Are you a blizzdrone?
>Did someone in high school just teach you about the phrase "ad hominem"
If there was a physical form of irony, this would be the closest thing to it. And no; you aren't saying the same things, you're approaching this from the completely opposite perspective. You're saying that Overwatch is MOBA with FPS elements, whereas I'm saying that it's the other way around.
>Find out it literally plays like a watered-down MOBA from an FPS perspective
Now fuck off to your bed, you're a waste of time.
>Feelio when the team comps in that tournament became even more retarded as it went deeper into the bracket and eventually devolved into what was essentially a pub game due to the teams in GF getting burned out after playing on and off for 9+ hours straight
No hero limit tournies: Not even once
>>343885754
>>Find out it literally plays like a watered-down MOBA from an FPS perspective
>b-b-b-but I didn't mean that!!!!!
lel. get #rekt.
>>343868376
Just get rid of it. This whole esports/pro scene is retarded. I'm getting too old for this shit. We never needed "comp mode" in Quake, BF2, Tribes 2, or CS 1.6.
In the past 10 years I've had to go from wincing at the idea of "leaderboards" to achievements to college roomates legitimally taking ssb melee to a tornament to kids watching "pros" by the thousands.
And now everyone is gauging everything by what the pros are doing, and treating video games as a professional job. Video games have become so normie that it has the imagery of a bunch of people in a wing bar going apeshit about some player not catching a ball or whatever.
>>343886579
LISTEN HERE YOU FUCKING CHINK
HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE BEST GAME UNDER THE WING OF TODD
YOU BASTARD, YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS
REMEMBER MY NAME 'doggo'.
>>343872842
In HL, that doesn't work anymore. Sniper has creeped his way into being part of the combo so he has 185 health for days. Highlander was never a good mode, but it was a hell of a lot better before Sniper became the most important class aside from Medic and UGC map pools became tailored around to make sure Sniper is super amazingly good every fucking week.
>>343887648
Sniper is honestly shit, what are you talking about? The changes never helped sniper, just the bombadier
could someone explain this meta for me and why you cannot counter it?
>>343868376
>>343883776
Do you know what MOBA means?
Multi Online Batle Arena.
Let's see.
Overwatch is a multiplayer game?
Yes.
Which you play on-lin?
Yes.
Is it a batle?
Yes.
Is it played in an arena?
Yes.
Overwatch is a Multi Online Batle Arena, deal with it.
>>343888525
So by that logic quake is a MOBA too?
>>343888594
Yes, and the best of them.
>>343888525
Moba is just a shitty genre name riot coined anyway
>>343888525
The maps aren't arenas dedicated to fighting purposes
>>343868376
8 Lucios in one match? What are they thinking?
>>343888594
quake does not have ults teamfights or stupid classes sytem so no.
>>343870538
yes, they amp up in turns for constant amped healing = never dying
>>343888525
THE DEFINITION OF MOBA IS THAT EVERY PLAYABLE CHARACTER HAS SPECIAL ABILITIES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THEM.
TF2 DOESN'T HAVE ANY ABILITIES.
COD DOESN'T HAVE ANY ABILITIES.
COUNTER-STRIKE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ABILITIES.
OVERWATCH HAS ABILITIES.
>>343880819
underrated poast
>>343884260
Can you name a shooter with ults and abilities LIKE OVERWATCH? I can't remember a shooter where I have a enigmas black hole or a hero that acts exactly like pudge.
this is what happens when you try to engineer an esport
into the trash it goes
24 tick
>>343889315
So you dont remember Jet Set Radio - Spray On! ?
>>343874708
Does boost + melee give more knockback than just boosting into a player?
>>343889229
>THE DEFINITION OF MOBA IS THAT EVERY PLAYABLE CHARACTER HAS SPECIAL ABILITIES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THEM.
No, it isn't.
The definition of MOBA is Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.
If you still don't understand it's games like CS:GO, Halo, SC2, Civ5.
>>343871725
how does bastion + mcree not counter this
>>343889469
>Civ5
>moba
oh you blizzcuck
>>343889736
It meets the criteria for a MOBA, m8
>>343889736
>actually replying to obvious bait
cmon anon noone is that fukkin stupid
>>343868493
Stop playing Overwatch.
Actually, stop playing games entirely.
>>343874450
HOLY SHIT
I DIDN'T FUCKING KNOW THAT
CHARGE+V D.VA NEW META
>>343889850
>actually replying to obvious bait
Don't think this is bait blizzcucks are really this stupid.
>>343890000
>Literacy so low you can't understand a 4 word phrase
pretty embarrassing desu senpai
>Pick / Ban system
Fixed.
That said competitive team shooters are shit and boring to watch anyway.
>>343890345
What are you on nigger at least I got quads.
>>343868376
Make random heroes the competitive mode
>>343890517
>illiterate and racist
Are you one of the famous American 'Red Necks'?
>>343876520
>implying the bullet woult not go straight into the vagina and be absorbed.
>>343890483
>Pick/ Ban
fuck off
>>343890000
no they cant be this is another level of fucking asininity
>>343890345
haha you got fucking owned by this guy
>>343890517
now you have to stop posting sorry bro
>>343890989
>now you have to stop posting sorry bro
make me
>>343890989
>haha you got fucking owned by this guy
It's nice that you show support for your husband/brother
True love really is a blessing
>>343882610
>That terminology is so generic you could call any team based pvp game a moba.
Well, look at what happened to the term "rogue-like/light/lite".
>>343891151
haha yeah you too man
>>343889315
Easy, Super Monday Night Combat.
A dead game. Why? Because it is a TF2 clone and nobody cares about TF2 anymore. If SMNC was made by Blizzard, it would be one of the most played games in the world.
And TF2 has abilites in Halloween event. Random abilites for everyone.
>>343891194
It's not too bad but the term is too vague as well.
It's like using CoD-like: you either clone the game or you aren't making a CoD-like.
At least roguelite caters for the bastardised games.
>>343891389
Are you my husband/brother also?
Quite the family love triangle we're in, lover.
Where did things go soright?
>>343891438
its been me the whole time man
Plot twist
we could get married but i dont know what you look like cant risk you having a cleft chin or some shit sorry bro
>hey guys so we created hearthstone this casual card game for fun
>becomes a esports
>so hey guys we created this casual fun version of dota called heroes of the storm
>becomes a esports
>so hey guys we created TF2 with tits and ass i think casuals will have a lot of fun with this
>E FUCKING SPORTS
the autism of blizzdrones is truly on another plane entirely
>>343891420
>has abilities one time for one mode for one period of a certain occurrence that happens officially on a couple days out the year
wow what a moba
>>343891729
>we could get married but i dont know what you look like cant risk you having a cleft chin or some shit sorry bro
We're brothers, m8.
We both have cleft chins.
>>343891810
>a esports
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
you don't, welcome to "competitive" games where everyone goes ultra tryhard deluxe and if you don't follow the meta you get REE'd out of the building
>>343868376
There's literally nothing wrong with this, fuck off TF2Baby.
>>343891928
At least until the next patch.
But it's really indicative of how imbalanced the heroes are.
>>343874450
>not rebinding melee from v to mmb
>>343891908
>we both have cleft chins
im on fucking acid rn dont do this to me brotherhusband
thats not even how that works wtf
>>343888525
Moba is a made up word that has just as much legitimacy as the average basketball American's name. The real term is supposed to be Action RTS. MOBA is such a vague term, you can use it to describe basically any online game. Fucking Virtua Fighter is a MOBA by the retarded definition that people use of it. It is multiplayer, it has online, there is fighting, and you fight in a big 3d arena that you can knock your opponents out of, so I guess that VF, Tekken, Dead or Alive, and even 2d fighting games are MOBAs now. If anything, even ASSFAGGOTS is a better term for the genre you're thinking of than MOBA. And no, Overwatch is not an Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides, as it doesn't play like Aeon of Strife at all.
>>343889229
How old are you? No, really. Again, by this same definition, fucking Skullgirls is a MOBA, as is Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict and Lawbreakers.
>>343892263
>the average basketball american
just say "black" or something gosh
>>343892263
>as it doesn't play like Aeon of Strife at all.
It does like its aeon of strife without creeps and towers.
>>343892263
Good, anon. You are a smart guy.
Most people here don't understand that MOBA is a very generic name created by a lazy company.
>>343892437
Black people have real names in most places. Adewale and Omotola may sound strange to English speakers, but they are real Nigerian names (both are derived from the Yoruba language), but Tyquan and Shaqueefa are just Americans being whatever the equivalent of wapenese is for an entire continent and not actually knowing anything about whatever vague culture they claim to be a part of.
>>343892485
And without the destruction of core structures. And without the overhead view of characters. And without the lack of a third axis of movement.
I guess that Unreal Tournament is just like Fallout 3 without the progression system or the conversation menus, I mean, they both have guns, right?
>>343892256
I've never heard of a pro being so butthurt about playing their old game. RTS, FPS, and Fighting game players love hopping on older games to goof off occassionally if someone sets it up. Why is he so against messing around on TF2 every once in a while?
Is Blizzard paying him to play OW only or is he desperate to be relevant in OW?
Can someone explain to me how people think this game's fun with ultimates being as ridiculously strong as they are? The fact that you can literally outplay the enemy team but wiping them all out just to have some fucking mercy cunt swoop in out of nowhere to resurrect them all just sucks any notion of fun I had out. This happened to me just now, we killed 4 people on the point without any ultimates, and we were all low as a result, and then some cunt mercy just undid all that effort. I alt+f4'd and uninstalled. I really don't understand how casuals think this is fun or balanced, this is awful.
i dont ever want to play overwatch based solely on the immense faggotry its fans radiate here
I just bought overwatch.
>>343893520
Why didnt you kill the healer first?
This is super simple stuff.
>>343893539
That's every online game that gets discussed on /v/. I have yet to see discussion of games on here with a multiplayer aspect that doesn't just result in a pointless pissing contest. There's a meme that only the fighting game players do it, but as we can all see, that's not true.
>>343893614
She wasn't there, she pressed shift to get on the point, that's what I meant by "swoop in". We didn't notice her coming in because we were in the middle of a fight. It's really dumb how such a low skill, low effort play can win an entire game, there is nothing skillfull about that shit.
>>343871142
When you put it that way it kind of reminds me of Street Fighter 4.
>>343893539
Anti-blizz cucks are the actual faggots though.
They'll shit up any thread for the sake of it.
Also,
>refusing to experience a piece of media because of it's fans
>>343868376
Competitive mode was just added as a placebo for no fun allowed autists.
>>343891569
is the purpose of this setup to hold a KOTH point?
>>343893461
He seemed really miserable playing tf2 almost like it became a chore.
also seemed like he was getting tired of the skin updates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06prfxCcLqM
This video gave me the vibe that he really wishes he was doing anything else/playing OW
>>343893838
>They'll shit up any thread for the sake of it.
you have /vg/ and yet you shills can't stop posting here inb4 le stop posting vidya meme
>>343893461
Playing TF2 would cut into his time spent playing something else he'd prefer, i guess?
Still think it's ridiculous to just straight up abandon the game that even got him to where he was and try to act like it never happened, though.
>>343893959
>talking about a video game on the video game board is bad
spamfest ensues
>>343893959
Yeah I'm sure you'd prefer if we had more twitter, youtube e-celeb, and Gaming News threads
>>343868376
Why do I always see this image when Tracer is actually pretty rare outside of KotH matches? She's only ever used as a last ditch effort by defense.
>>343893838
Well to be fair, refusing to experience media because of the fans makes more sense when the game is multiplayer and you have to play with others. I wouldn't play a Sonic MMO since I'm sure it would be full of furries, even though I like Sonic games.
>>343893959
That's valid but it's no excuse to shit up threads in which people are discussing the game. /vg/ is just a waifu faggotry board, not a board for discussions.
I don't personally post threads but I discuss stuff in them. Also there no meme, Overwatch is a video game and this is a popular video game, if you don't like the threads, filter and hide them.
Nice. The sooner people realize the balance mess, the less relevant the waifu shooter will become.
>>343868376
pew pew pew..eh i win the round
That comp is literally only used for the first like 20 seconds
>>343894078
And how exactly would that affect your experience? There's no way of knowing what other people are like in an anonymous online game, people rarely even talk aside from saying "gg".
You might as well not play online games all together because people on the internet are often cancerous.
>>343876146
It looks like they're on Lijiang Tower. King of the hill favors Lucio since you need to get back to the point fast. It also happens to be the only mode where Tracer is picked constantly, and while Winston is still popular outside of it, he's still more popular on king of the hill.
The fact that this image is cherrypicked has not been pointed out enough. Competitive Overwatch has a one hero limit now anyway.
>>343893461
out with the old and in with the new
gotta get those sweet overwatch subs somehow
>>343894010
>>343894073
you guys act like the undertale faggots.
Blizzard is too much of a bunch of bitches to remove hero stacking
Even though TF2 allowed stacking, it was way more balanced than this game
>>343893959
>>343894148
Fucking hell I need to eat.
"Also there's no meme. Overwatch is a video game, and a popular one at that. If you don't like the threads, filter and hide them."
Why do casuals get triggered whenever a competitive game doesn't fill their arbitrary character diversity quota? If a game has different characters some will be more useful than others in certain circumstances, there is no ways about it.
It happened with all dota style games, it happens with all fighting games, and now it's happening to overwatch.
But no hurrr I want my stream experience to be a parade with all the cast characters who cares about the players
>>343894356
> You might as well not play online games all together because people on the internet are often cancerous.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Local online and lan parties are superior.
>>343894356
>people rarely even talk aside from saying "gg".
Are you kidding? I always get obnoxious Americans that can't shut up (You people know NOTHING of team composition, so I'm just going to pick Widow, but you should all kill yourselves. Fucking disgusting.) or European children that barely know English. (CHINA. NO PICK REAPER? WHY SO MANY CHINA IN THIS GAME?)
>>343877785
>Tf2 clone
>not stale
Next you're going to start spouting that battleborne ripped off overwatch even though it released first.
>>343894671
It's more because blizzard designed their game to be a counterpick extravaganza where you change heroes on the fly, but the two winston two tracer two lucio combo in control points is best countered by the exact same thing.
>>343894765
How often do you even get to play local with your buddies? All my friends are all over the country.
>>343894867
>obnoxious Americans
There's your problem. I play on EU servers, people are pretty chill most of the time.
>>343894958
>or European children that barely know English
>>343881047
>Mfw I also have an r9 390
>Mfw 95 fps on ultra maxed settings
You either need to get better cooling or that card is gimped af.
>>343868376
rework the game so it doesn't fucking cater to casuals
>>343894371
There's some experimentation with no hero limit right now seemingly because Blizzard really really really really really would like the game to be played in a certain way for reasons, despite their ways leading to coinflip tiebreakers and 10 Tracer matches.
>>343895034
So which server are you playing on then? I assumed you meant foreginers logging onto the NA servers.
On the EU servers people usually don't talk unless you start a conversation. And even then it's likely that people won't respond. At least in majority of the games.
>>343868376
>Having more then one set of quotation marks
What do you hope to acomplish by doing that?
Tracer is like the Fox of Overwatch. Soon teams will consist of nothing but Tracers.
>>343895462
He thinks it makes the thing in quotations look even less legitimate.
>>343895467
Except Fox isn't actually all that popular among pro smash players.
im in op pic ama
>>343896302
>not all that popular
>6 of the top 10 have foxes
>>343896518
Do you wish Tracer was your girlfriend?
>>343895040
I've got a 390 but will easily hit 90c unless I cap framerate or lower settings :(
>>343897224
Yeah, gotta do that. I've got decent airflow so here's to hoping it's just dust.
>>343893461
>want to make a non-tf2 video
>WAHHHH STER FUCKING GIVE US TF2
You can only play one game so long until you get sick of it.
>>343868376
can you people stop picking genji, none of you are good at him, I know you watched Seagull and want to pub stomp like him, but you're useless.
anyone here overclock their 390? what voltage and clocks?
>Overcucks will defend this
Isn't a team of competitive TF2:
1 x Demo
1 x Medic
2 x Scout
2 x Soldier
That's pretty sad that a game with only 9 characters has more diversity competitive wise.
>>343889229
THE DEFINITION OF MOBA IS THAT EVERY PLAYABLE CHARACTER HAS SPECIAL ABILITIES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THEM.
>TF2 DOESN'T HAVE ANY ABILITIES.
Spy stealth and disguise? Medic uber? Engineer's turrets and dispensers? Etcetera, etcetera. You idiots are stretching the definition of MOBA pretty thin, if Overwatch is a MOBA by this ridiculous criteria then you'll have to drag in plenty of other games that also clearly are not.
>>343893461
Can people please stop pretending star was "professional", all he did was get carried by invite sandbaggers in open and IM.
>>343889315
Shadowrun 2007
>>343901275
I think they put limits to each of the characters in TF2 competitive.
Not sure what the limits are though. Might be max 2 of each character but they they might limit some of them to 1.
>>343903135
Demo, Med, Engie, and heavy are limited to 1 everything else you can run two of.
>>343903679
Why Demo? Cause you can put mines around chokes?
>>343875876
Mcree can still kill Tracer with absolutely no trouble though. It only takes one more shot from fan landing.
No duplicate characters
>>343903835
Rules for 6s were decided on what people thought would be the most fun, before the sticky nerf demo could output an insane amount of damage and with two demos you can trap off more choke points. Two demos created a lot of stalemates/slowed the game down so it's limited to one.
>>343868376
>Highlander
>2 Bans
>You can't ban two of the same hero type
WOW COMPETITIVE OVERWATCH FIXED, HIRE ME BLIZZARD
>>343904114
Guessed as much. Thanks anon.
>>343868564
>pro standard uses 1 hero limit
>pro standard uses who completes payload fastest gets the win
Why is blizzard so shit? I hate to say it but it looks like the pros should be working on this game.
>>343870867
The funny thing is that this was only ONE match out of that whole small tournament in which both teams mirrored each other.
The only characters not used in competitive are Bastion, Mei and Zenyatta.
It was always meant to be a fun arcadey casual game. A spiritual successor to Tf2.
>>343904274
blizzard is right in both cases; they just fucked up the execution. Hero stacking is a balance issue. Stopwatch has never been good and the current competitive design is much better outside of the idiotic sudden death rule
does this game have skill requiring mechanics like tf2 has? for example rocket jumping, pogo jumping, air strafing, multi-sticky jumping?
or is it just running around popping ults?
>>343870056
Huh? I'm running a gtx 650 and consistently at least 60 fps.
>>343891729
>>343896302
>Fox isn't that popular
>most players literally have a pocket Fox
i love it when kids try to act like they know anything.
>>343874976
Thanks anon, this really cleared things up for me.
>>343880819
>we're all faggots now
>>343905543
Not much, no. The skills you need are basically positioning and aim.
>>343868493
no fuck off
Hey someone buy me the game please :] thanks
>>343870867
and comp tf2 is shit
what is your point?
>>343884614
Nigger, I get up in her face and blast her face while running around her slow turn speed while shes shooting. I regularly kill her.
>>343870056
Getting 50-75 FPS here with
i7 2600k OC'd
760 GTX 2gb
>>343870056
>FX-8150 and 7870
>Getting 60-70 FPS on Ultra
You must be trolling.
>>343870150
>wasting money for no reason other than having something to shitpost with in speccy threads
kys man, also skylake is a fucking meme
2500k is god tier CPU
>>343868376
Jokes on them and that comp, Lucio heals don't stack, so unless your gonna go fast.....
What a waste of a good match.
>>343880547
>about to finally take the final point of the game and win
>the other team all switch to double winston, torb, bastion, lucio, and zarya
>all with full ult charge
>let every ult off on the point at once
>they then all switch characters, but using the same setup, and repeat the process
I mean I wish your idea would work
that better be a strong ult degrade
>>343868376
Just keep trying to balance the champs out and there you go.
1 hero limit is stupid because it doesnt fix the problem and you still end up with the same faggot team comps that everyone copies.
Except now someone is FORCED to use that shitter hero that nobody wants to play and the only variation in team comps now lies on what 6th shitter hero people end up picking to not die as much as the others.
>>343877549
Sure thing shillio
>>343894867
>mfw I've disabled voice and text chat
>Best 2 out of 3 for everything.
>no hero stacking
>points aren't given for objectives capped or held but instead for matches won.
>only maps allowed are hybrid and control maps
>ties on hybrid maps have the last round be decided where both teams rotate to see how far they can go within 3 minutes with no overtime.
>if you quit a match you get a 1 day ban from comp and drop 5 ranks
Would this fix some of the problems
>>343868489
>People who want their games to be competitively viable are the cancer killing the industry
thank you
>>343868746
Well, now post McCree nerf, tanks have few things to worry about. It's why you're seeing a lot of 2, 3 or 4 tanks per team since now you can't generate enough firepower to really deal with multiple tanks.
>>343871454
Scouts only a soft counter to demo though.
Also spy counters the Engie and heavy (the loud noises from heavies weapon make it hard to hear the spy uncloak, that still genius design IMO)
Pyro's are a soft counter to solider with airblast and a counter to demo's stickies with airblast when pyro's are on offense and the demo is on defense when it comes to control point stickys.
Also pyro is a pretty hard counter to scout but its situation of location, if the scout gets damaged but still makes the kill if there are no health kits or medics nearby then pyro wins even if he dies.
(Its kind of fucked though with heavy pyro relations since pyro's can airblast heavies which kind of ruins the defense capabilities of the heavies on control points if you push them off it makes capping easy, I've been saying they need to make it so that heavies cannot be airblasted while crouching or something to counter the airblasting)
Sniper is also a soft counter to solider since soldiers are the 2nd slowest class making it easier to headshot them (although the soldiers can rocket jump which makes head shots more difficult so its only a soft counter)
Don't get me started when it comes to the game balance when we start putting in the non vanilla weapons into the equation.
Medics are hard counters to the pyro's after burn on both himself and teammates.
>>343880819
>6 reapers vs 6 soldiers
![1304376955947[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gzwN6qu.png "1304376955947[1]")
