>DayZ Standalone
>Rust
>Life Is Feudal: Your Own
>Hide and Hold Out
>Miscreated
>ARK: Survival Evolved
>H1Z1
Are we living in the midst of a sandbox survival renaissance?
>literally all in early-access forever
If they weren't all janky as fuck garbage maybe.
Rust is the most polished and even then it's meh at best. I got the DayZ standalone this summer sale, and man, i don't know what they've changed but it feels and plays worse than the fucking Arma2 mod back in 2014.
I'm amazed no big dev has stepped in and shat all over these early access shitpiles with a simple survival game with the power of a AAA dev behind it, any big company worth their salt could shit out something on par with Rust in 6 months.
All naysaying aside, i do want to see these games turn out good, but it'll be like another decade+ before that happens.
sandbox survival dark age more like
>>343858563
I feel like that's on the horizon, though. Just look at the booming demand. Someone higher up than a
indie AA dev is gonna take notice, and I think that'll be sooner rather than later. In the meantime, these
smaller games give devs and players a good idea of what does and doesn't work when in comes to this
new genre
>>343858784
Heres hoping.
>>343858190
>renaissance
more like dark ages
>>343858190
what game is this?
>>343858563
Surivial games are a neat idea but they always turn out shit, big devs know that and stay clear of that trao
>>343858882
The dark age was defined by the suppression of creativity and progress
The renaissance was a time of intellectual prosperity in which different areas were explored en masse by enthusiastic AA developers with a good idea but still couldn't code texture smoothing quite right
>>343859186
Even so with the money these bare bones games make you'd think it would take so little effort with such a low bar.
>>343859148
>tags OP
>didn't read OP
>>343859575
In certain games I can agree
But with games like miscreated and life is feudal, the sheer scope of the map and environment design probably eats a lot of money
>>343859626
There are 7 games in the OP though.
Is that screenshot of ALL 7 games in the OP?
>>343859815
To which image are you referring?
>>343859148
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377140/
>>343858190
>renaissance?
More of a cash-in, honestly. I did enjoy How to Survive 2, though.
No, they all fucking suck. DayZ was the meme game that started this shit, and it's not even finished.
>>343858190
>Work in Progress
Pretty much sums up the genre
>>343858190
More like a kickstarter/early access scam renaissance.
>>343858784
Tomb raider is indication of this. It plays just like one strangely. Plus ubisoft has always been on the "Right" path. Collect build that type of skinner box deal. Its coming soon.
I fell for the Ark hype. It needs a fucking NASA super computer to run above 30fps in medium settings.
>>343861016
at one point it did
apparently it's improved (but not by a huge amount)
>>343858190
>survival renaissance?
Ha, no
>>343858563
>If they weren't all janky as fuck garbage maybe.
This
Huge potential, none of them come even close to realizing.
They are all early access and none of them are real games, more like a mishmash of ideas thrown together in the hope it sticks.
>>343858190
are any of these games not garbage? I picked up Rust to try out with a friend but I might just refund it
>>343858190
go ahead and put subnautica on there then yes
>>343858949
I wonder if the statistical likelihood of being attacked increases or decreases with designing a nice looking home
>>343858190
>survival
The only modern game that lives up to the word 'survival' is the Long Dark and Dont Starve.
Those games you listed are nothing but shitty PvP arenas where the matches just take too long.
>>343858190
>no 7 days to die
>literally the best game out of any of those
>>343859334
>The dark age was defined by the suppression of creativity and progress
creativity perhaps but the dark ages involved a lot of progress, for example the first standardized font which fixed the prior situation where everybody wrote in crazy post-roman gibberish, plus improvements in methods of farming and metallurgy and building
>>343861959
I wish I could forget that shit in 7 days
Most lanky shit out of all of these games
>>343862016
Explain. Never heard anyone describe a game as lanky.
>>343862152
Its poorly put together, nothing fits well and its like someone slapped a shitty zombie survival game over the top of minecraft
>>343862152
not him but i'm guessing he meansit had no style
it had no grace
>>343862253
It's early access and still better than any of OP's games. Plus it's been updated nicely. Still a ways to go though.
>>343862261
I appreciated that comment a lot.
>>343862438
>still better than any of OP's games
Its objectively not and
>Still a ways to go though.
Is the warcry of every single naive cunt who thinks 'their' generic zombie survival game is going to be 'the one' that makes it
You're the exact same as the DayZ morons, years later and still has a 'ways to go though' and 'it will be done any time now!'
Fuck off, you're the fucking reason this genre is such a joke, faggots like you excusing developers for never making a finished product and releasing it unfinished relying on fanboys to deflect how shoddy the game is only to abandon it yourself once the developers give up and move on like they all do to these early access survival games.
>>343862438
>better than any of OP's games.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpH2z-XUnPQ
24 minutes
Thats how shit the game is
>>343862779
You give me the horrible impression that you're shilling for one of the other games in the OP. H1Z1 perhaps?
Also it objectively is better.
>>343862880
He's supposed to sound like a frozen zombie. Frozen zombies are tougher than normal zombies, and he's attacking him with the lowest level equipment in the game, and he's level 1. It's not ultra-realistic, it's an RPG on many levels like fallout.
>>343863146
>You give me the horrible impression that you're shilling
They're ALL shit you fucking mongoloid. Jesus Christ you're thick as fuck.
>>343863146
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpH2z-XUnPQ
>52 minutes
Absolute fucking garbage game. You have shit taste.
>it's an RPG on many levels like fallout.
Thats a fucking shit excuse, and a justification for why the game is shit, not good.
Stop shilling your crap here.
>>343861959
Its as bad as/worse than H1Z1 and Miscreated
Technology will not progress enough to have a map big enough to create camps that people will not raid without 1-2 hours on a decently populated server
for the next 20 years. And that is at the core of a long term survival progression game
/thread
>>343862779
By the way the game is in early access because that's what the kickstarters wanted, playable betas.
>>343863327
>Console player
>walks around a bear
>it's dark out, bear didn't see him
I don't see what the problem is with that, or RPG mechanics. And by the way the guy probably would have died if he stayed in the snow/cold zone unless he figured out how to make some clothing and a fire. And if he didn't die he'd still have a hard time getting anything started since frozen zombies are tough to deal with at the start. You don't need to move to another biome, but it's certainly a good idea for noobs.
>>343863449
I never got squelched or banned in 7 Days for asking why my structures disappeared for no apparent reason though. Can't say the same about H1Z1.
>>343863763
>By the way the game is in early access
For THREE fucking years
Its not in early access, its released as a PoS with no content and the "promise" of the fixing it later on
This game will never be done
>>343858563
>I'm amazed no big dev has stepped in and shat all over these early access shitpiles with a simple survival game with the power of a AAA dev behind it
It's called Subnautica senpai
>>343863763
>buggy as fuck
>AI doesnt respond to anything well
>pathfinding is entirely fucked
>clipping through everything
>zombie later on just walks through a garage door
Its a poorly made, shit game. End of discussion.
>>343858190
>all these games
>all this shit
Can we give up yet
>>343863763
>I never got squelched or banned in 7 Days for asking why my structures disappeared for no apparent reason though. Can't say the same about H1Z1.
Woopdefuckingdo, they are all horrid games.
>DayZ
I miss the WarZ threads we used to have where we'd have fun pointing out all the bullshit and shoddy programming.
>>343864025
OP is a moron, the good survival games are;
Factorio, Subnautica, Dont Starve, The Long Dark and Project Zomboid
All the rest is shovelware shit.
>>343863852
That's what the people on kickstarter wanted.
>>343863949
>buggy as fuck
Still more than playable
>AI doesnt respond to anything well
They're zombies. Zombies don't respond to anything well.
>pathfinding is entirely fucked
??????????????
>clipping through everything
Fair enough
>zombie later on just walks through a garage door
Never really seen this happen personally but they've been testing "sleeper zombies." Could have something to do with that.
>>343864070
7 days isn't though.
>>343861016
you mean CNSA super computer
>>343864165
Please anon, go the kickstarter page and point out the part that said
>We will never finish the game, and it will stay in early access as a buggy mess for over 3 years
Ill wait
>>343864160
>Project Zomboid
>not shovelware
kek
>still play dayz epoch everyday with mates
>still one of the best games ever made
>>343861874
what about the forest?
ARK looks like it's doing better than the others at least. They showed playable dinos with lifecycles at E3.
>>343864165
>7 days isn't though.
it is, entirely a shit horrid buggy piece of rubbish
nothing else to say about it, although the fact that everyone is pointing out how shit it is is evidence enough
>>343864286
Rubbish, avoid at all costs.
>>343864256
It is one of the best zombie games out there and continuously gets updated, its not shovelware at all.
>>343864165
>??????????????
So you really are just a total moron then if you dont even fucking know what pathfinding is and think zombies being buggy as shit is excusable because "LOL THEY R ZOMBIES"
Wont waste any more time on you, you're obviously too stupid to be reasoned with
>>343858190
No, too many imcompetent developers think they can handle making a game of such a huge magnitude and do it WELL, and too many shady companies try to make money off idiots who will buy the next zombie survival game who will "get it right".
>>343864165
>>343863763
You are blatantly shilling that shitty fucking game
Fuck off. The game is rubbish and im glad it fucking bombed on its console release.
>>343864256
new animations look awesome desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4I2PE5MqxY
>>343864234
People payed for early access.
>>343864316
>everyone is pointing out how shit it is is evidence enough
>appeal to majority
pic related
>>343864407
>It is one of the best zombie games out there and continuously gets updated, its not shovelware at all.
It's 2d pixel shit, fuck off.
>>343864502
The pathfinding is fine though. Zombies usually attack the closest accessible point on a base.
>>343864586
I'm responding to idiots that clearly never played the game.
>>343858190
>None of these games are good or even completed
It's the Renaissance all right
>>343864682
>It's 2d pixel shit
Pfthah, wow, if you're going to criticize a game at least have a single valid complaint, its not pixel or 2d
>>343858190
>renaissance
MAYBE two of the games you listed are ok.
Let me know when any of those are fucking finished
>>343861724
it gets evened out
>"wow thats a nice looking house i bet they have lots of good shit in it"
>"nah don't risk it brah this guy obviously knows what hes doing and would have traps fucking everywhere"
>>343858190
More like a dark ages since we're past the days of the DayZ mod, and everything that came after hasn't been able to stack up.
>>343864682
You are the single most idiotic person I have ever seen on /v/
I really fucking hope you are trolling
>>343864849
Shit graphics is a legit critique. There's tons of free resources to make 3d graphics. Indy devs have no real excuse other than laziness.
>>343864929
>bla bla bla ad hominem
>>343864286
Friends urged me to get The Forest to the point where they bought it for me to play with them.
As far as playing with friends goes it can be a 7/10 experience but servers generally run like shit, it's insanely buggy, and we had played almost every bit of content faster than they could update with stuff that wasn't "paint your axe nice colors!"
It's a shit game and they won't even touch it anymore.
>>343864682
>pic related
Ironic to the max because all you're doing is covering your ears going alallalala
>The pathfinding is fine though. Zombies usually attack the closest accessible point on a base.
Case and fucking point.
>ITS FINE THOUGH IT DOESNT NEED TO BE GOOD, THE ZOMBIES HAVE TO BE SHIT ON PUROSE, WHO CARES IF THEY CLIP THROUGH WALLS AND ATTACK TREES BECAUSE THEY BLOCK LINE OF SIGHT RATHER THAN WALKING AROUND IT
You're a moron, end of discussion.
>>343864962
>Shit graphics is a legit critique
Then why didnt you make one?
The game isnt pixel, and it isnt 2D. Please actually learn about games before posting about them.
Great irony you are defending a shit game on the basis of claiming no one played it when you yourself attack other games without playing or knowing anything about them. I really hope you're happy with your hypocritical life.
>>343864160
This.
>>343858190
do any of those have actual RNG cool loot? I think the most fun I have in these kind of games are when you die often and early but can get sick shit like snipers and ghillie suits in dayz (though I only play the mod for arma2/3, the standalone is garbage)
>>343864962
>>bla bla bla ad hominem
Thats the sort of response I expected from someone who plays objectively shit video games and has the nerve to pretend they are good and cant even get a single valid point to defend it.
Now go away kid
>>343864920
If you make a nice looking house then you're fucked.
Because a nice house means it's not a fucking mess that's impossible to navigate.
>>343864962
>There's tons of free resources to make 3d graphics. Indy devs have no real excuse other than laziness.
You mean like these 3D graphics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIpk40xvVk
Which by the way, look way better than 7D2D. Plus those animations work unlike that shitty game you're shilling.
my biggest problem with shit like rust and ark is that they go immediately from
>making yourself simple shit like maybe a spear and bow/arrow with sticks and stones
to
>Guns and other hi tech shit out of raw metal and shit like that
its like the devs looked at those minecraft modpacks where its just a clusterfuck of different futuristic/modern technology, magic and medieval mods and decided to copy them
>>343865234
the outside can look nice but the inside could be an absolute clusterfuck
>>343864962
>Shit graphics is a legit critique
So why aren't you applying it to 7 turds which OBJECTIVELY looks worse than any other game in this thread?
BTFO
>>343865045
>all you're doing is covering your ears going alallalala
How is literally responding to every single post "covering my ears and going llaalalalala" you fucking mong. Fuck off.
>>343865134
>The game isnt pixel, and it isnt 2D
Actually it is, but...
>>343865335
Can you rotate the view? No? It's 2D.
>>343865226
>not one single valid point
Look who's talking.
>HURR LOOK AT THIS STREAMWHORE
Summer is here.
>>343865425
>HD models and mocap animations
>looks bad
k
>>343865482
>How is literally responding to every single post "covering my ears and going llaalalalala" you fucking mong. Fuck off.
>not addressing any valid points raised against him
>calling everyone an idiot
>reaction images and meme replies
You're literally doing nothing but lalalal, but go on, prove me wrrong with another reaction image and ab hominem moron.
Rust is literally the only good one too.
How about unturned?
>Made by single developer
>2-3 small updates a month
>Blocky graphics easy on toasters
>Big workshop community
>All in-game purchases purely cosmetic to support dev
>Very open Custom difficulty options
>Its free
And we got a built in map editor to make either fun challenge maps, or a detailed difficult survival map, or some arena maps for pvp.
>>343865482
>Can you rotate the view? No? It's 2D.
If you're going to troll, dont be so obvious about it.
Even a moron knows isometrics are 3D.
Gig is up, you lost face.
>>343858190
Except the only one that was any good was legacy rust
>>343865482
>HD models and mocap animations
Pfthahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
>>343858190
literally all of those a terrible in their own awful ways
>no 7 days to die
>the only game that isn't team deathmatch: the game
shit taste teebeeaytch
>>343865597
I said fuck off underage idiot. I'm responding to every single """""point"""" everyone is making, fucking retard.
>>343865687
It's a 2D game with 2D sprites. It's a 2D game with pixel graphics. I know you're too young to understand these sorts of things but it's not fucking rocket science.
>>343865770
>I don't have an argument so I guess I'll just pretend to laugh even though I'm actually furious
>>343865482
>Can you rotate the view? No? It's 2D.
Isomeric games are 3D as well you fucking idiot
>>343858190
>a bunch of unfinished early access shitfests
>renaissance
>>343865482
>Can you rotate the view? No? It's 2D.
Firstly, you can
Second, you can move in 3 dimensions
Third, all models are 3D
>>343864682
R u ok anon
>>343865164
>you will never feed rommel crackers
Why even live
>>343865853
>It's a 2D game with 2D sprites.
Okay, be serious now
Do you actually believe this
because if so, you are literally retarded
>>343865838
Name one thing wrong with ARKthat isn't it's user base?
>>343865657
Unturned is pretty fun if not for the community.
>>343865951
https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/648811126725898068/
WHY YOU LYIN ANON
WHY YOU FUCKIN' LYIN
>>343865853
>>I don't have an argument so I guess I'll just pretend to laugh even though I'm actually furious
How can I be furious at you being absolutely and utterly idiotic? Nothing you said is true, im just laughing at how stupid you are.
Oh man, thats fucking priceless
>>343861634
It's pretty bad. Some servers are decent but people usually don't play on those, or they kos all the time.
Nakeds have nothing to lose and everything to gain, which makes them worth killing 100% of the time. Unless you have a clan of like 20 people, it's just not worth the effort.
>Half of these games all revolve around grabbing C4.
>Checking the house of the person you're raiding to see if they are offline.
>Stealing their shit after breaking one wall.
>Sometimes not even for gain, just to be a dickhead.
Is there a worse genre?
>>343859334
No. A dark age is characterized by a lack of primary sources. Usually it is caused by a lack of writing or destroyed records.
>>343866087
>fourth post down
Nice reading comprehension idiot
>>343858563
Fallout 4, taken totally objectively (independent of it not being an RPG), got somewhat close. However beth didn't give the PC enough freedom to build (buildable things can only be done in preselected places, not enough things to build, shit tier NPC activities etc) and gated things behind DLC paywalls (probably not as important in the long run compared to the former).
>>343865657
>you'll never play with /untg/ in the glory days again
>you'll neverfight for freedom
>>343865482
>Can you rotate the view? No? It's 2D.
What the fuck are you smoking? 3D only refers to the ability to play in 3 dimensions
You cant play in 3 dimensions in tetris, you can in isometic games
Are you actually retarded?
What's the current state of the DayZ standalone? I haven't played in like a year and a bit, and it was a mess.
>>343866064
Terrible optimization, more of a grind than leveling in an MMO, terrible combat, dinos are just a gimmick and literally the only decent thing about it
>>343865482
Close the thread anon, nothing is lost here.
>>343866064
It's tone, atmosphere, super permissive crafting system, and basebuilding which is a cancer killing the genre in general.
>>343866087
They removed the feature, but you could rotate the camera
The fact you had to search that up though proves you have no idea what you're talking about
>>343865657
>2-3 small updates a month
More like 1 decent one every god damn week, that kid has to been working on that game at that pace for years now
>>343865657
I played the shit out of it when it first came out. I lost all interest after /vg/ stopped hosting servers while we waited for the version 1.3 or 3.0 I can't remember which it was. It seems to have come a long way since then.
>>343865482
>>HD models and mocap animations
I play 7D2D and even I admit the graphics/animations/sound are absolute fucking garbage
There is a point where validly defending a game turns to vapid fanboism and you've clearly passed it.
>>343861000
Are you referring to that rise of the tomb raider game?
In what way is it a sandbox survival crafting game?
>>343858190
sure
ffa survival games blow dick though
>>343866051
Do I believe it? Yes. Do you know how I know it's a 2D game? Because I fucking played it. Why don't you try it for yourself.
>>343866135
>how stupid you are
>thats fucking priceless
That's fucking priceless. "That's" is a conjunction between "That" and "Is." And you forgot a period at the end of your sentence. Idiot.
>>343866265
>You have NEVER been able to rotate the camera.
Go play the game so you don't come on /v/ and make an idiot of yourself again.
>>343866382
You can only move in 8 directions in isometric games. It's not 3D but isometric games can have 3D graphics. Project Zomboid does not have those.
>>343866457
Why are you still lying? You've never been able to rotate the camera. The developer himself even said it in that post. If you had played the game you would have known that. Unfortunately for you, youngfaggot, I actually do play video games.
>>343866558
>HD models and mocap is bad
Yeah okay.
>>343866220
Which is by definition suppression
>>343866609
>Do I believe it? Yes.
Then you're actually an idiot. Not like a throw around insult, you are actually stupid.
Isometric games like Zomboid are 3D. There is nothing else to be said here.
>>343866609
You need to go back
>>343863852
>For THREE fucking years
>implying a AAA developer with experience and money doesn't take that much time or more
You sound like you're salty desu. The game has a lot of content as is, they just haven't left early access because the game isn't complete to the devs.
>not liking developers who continue to develop their games after a good foundation
Should probably go back to console then.
>>343866064
It's biggest draw is dinosaurs and they are poorly implemented. Very bad AI, they take actual real life hours upon hours to train, (include the time to make the specialty food and it's even longer.), and they die without being looked after daily.
Rust got it right with not making the game a second job where you had to dedicate hours just to keep your base running as well. Playing ARK what I remember most is distilling gasoline to keep my generator going, what a waste of time. The whole thing is just a big timesink for almost no reward.
At least Rust is fast and filthy and you can experience all it has to offer in time to refund it.
>>343866609
>>343866702
>samefagging this obviously
Outstanding
>>343866372
>tfw you will never kill High Impact Sexual Violence for being a fag again
>>343863926
>big dev
Subnautica lacks in content as well.
If we're talking big devs, Sony has been pushing for NMS pretty hard. They even bought celebrity recommendations.
>>343866682
But the game is literally pixel graphics and pixel animations. There's no 3D models in that game.
>>343866778
>I completely lost this argument so I'm going to insinuate samefagging.
>>343866862
>you'll never force sofa to combat log againsofa is still a faggot
>>343858190
no we are living in the midst of the sandbox survival middle ages
The market is filled with boring, mediocre, unoptimized early access titles that very few people play.
Even the well-made ones like Rust or Ark have some other horrible problem such as terrible community.
The suvival genre will come out of it's middle ages when we have solid multiplayer experiences that won't be hampered by the community of the game itself and will actually attract lots of people.
>>343866609
>You can only move in 8 directions in isometric games. It's not 3D but isometric games can have 3D graphics. Project Zomboid does not have those.
You can move in any direction in project zomboid you absolute fucking moron. As well as the fact the game has 3D graphics for everything.
Seriously hope this is a troll, but considering how desperate you are to save face I think you actually are just retarded.
>>343866717
this is the only valid criticism of ARK so far
>>343865657
Basically what minecraft was supposed to be before autists made the unfinished version popular as fuck.
>>343866869
>But the game is literally pixel graphics and pixel animations
You have no idea what you are talking about. By your logic 7D2D is a shit game because it has microtransactions. Inb4 you miss the point, it doesnt, but it does because I say so, which is all you're doing.
>>343866717
>At least Rust is fast and filthy and you can experience all it has to offer in time to refund it.
But that's why it's got little appeal. It's so fast and quick and you go from naked to dual AR-15s so fast it's all meaningless. It's well designed for people with no patience, or sense of subtlety.
>>343866064
It's minecraft but with worse servers, tech advancement and combat.
>>343866778
outstanding indeed.
>>343866869
>>I completely lost this argument
What argument? You posted saying 7 shits was a good game, people pointed out it wasn't, then you had a bitch fit for half an hour.
>>343862880
>>343863327
What are you even trying to prove with this retards videos?
>>343867049
>you go from naked to dual AR-15s so fast it's all meaningless
Maybe if you have friends. I usually just run into a gang of people with guns before I can defend myself properly.
>>343866918
>I think a 2D game is 3D but I'm going to call that other guy retarded.
>>343866929
>poorly optimized
>EXP for adventuring is too low
>EXP for crafting is too low
>EXP for building is too high
>>343867047
Here's the fallacy. If you went and played zomboid you'd see shitty 2d graphics and animations. If you went and played 7 Days you wouldn't see microtransactions.
>>343867125
The people that said it wasn't never played the game. They saw some idiot youtuber play on a console once.
>>343867107
Yeah look kid I can use paint too
Nice touch removing the first (you) and not the second
Have another (you) since you are desperate for them
>>343867125
>most people
>>343859334
The dark ages literally weren't even a fucking thing idiot. Made up bullshit.
>>343867049
I think you mistook what you quoted as praise for Rust. I'm saying at the very least you can see Rust is a waste of time quickly enough to refund it.
Ark is just a slow and unpleasant time sink. I also forgot how disastrous the breeding update was as well, having to sit and feed a baby dinosaur meat every second for almost half a day.
>>343865482
>Can you rotate the view? No? It's 2D.
Thats not how 3D works
Even Wolf3D and Doom are 3D games
>>343867292
And you can rotate the view in those games.
>>343867201
>Here's the fallacy. If you went and played zomboid you wouldn't see shitty 2d graphics and animations. If you went and played 7 Days you would see microtransactions.
Thank you and good night, two fixes and you've shown your idiocy perfectly.
>>343865657
Server when you autismal fucks
I sure hope I'll see /untg/ up and running when I return in a few hours
>>343867396
Good night, now go play the fucking game.
>>343867153
It's not that hard, and especially I find just weird and unappealing to go from caveman to spec ops warrior in a single play session. In DayZ you aren't single handedly recreating all of human technological advancement in a single lifetime, it's really odd that so many of these games do that where you can go from the Flintstones to the Jetsons in an afternoon, and I really wonder what's so appealing about that to so many people.
>>343858190
im waiting for the perfect sandbox mmo for /v/ to rally and wreck like we did in wurm
darkfall and crowfall are best options for now, but im really banking on CoE for the long haul
>inb4 muh shitty /v/ guilds
>>343867201
Because you are the only person on /v/ who has ever played 7D2D. Actually you know what you are probably right, it is such a piece of shit I wouldn't be surprised.
For the record I own and played it plenty, its a shit game through and through.
>>343867210
>show screenshot
>"I can use paint too!"
Okay, I never said you couldn't. The screenshot wasn't edited though.
>>343864920
The people who know what they're doing in Rust make massive ugly box houses since it's the most efficient
>>343867485
>Because you are the only person on /v/ who has ever played 7D2D
Fucking apparently.
>>343867501
Sure it wasn't kid, sure it wasn't.
>>343867363
Literally irrelevant, that was not the reason why the games were consider 3D, and its not why games are considered 3D now. All games before those were actual 2D games like Tetris.
Whatever anon, if you want to be uneducated be my guest.
>>343865657
>>Blocky graphics easy on toasters
But it runs like an arthritic sloth.
>>343867579
>grasping this hard
Paranoia isn't healthy anon.
>>343867554
>reading comprehension
You're too stupid even by /v/s standards, kys.
>>343867762
>kys
Take your own advice summerfaggot.
>>343867201
>The people that said it wasn't never played the game. They saw some idiot youtuber play on a console once.
More than enough evidence to prove how shit the game is.
>>343866064
Too much grind
>>343867879
Some chest-slapping youtube console peasant farting around not knowing his head from his ass isn't evidence of anything other than how fucking stupid you youngfags are, if you really think that's a legitimate way to judge a game.
>>343866609
>>343865853
>>343865482
>>343864682
>getting THIS upset someone pointing out how shit 7 days to die is
Holy shit my sides
>>343868054
I'm not upset, I'm just replying to people replying to me.
>>343866064
Gonna have to say it's userbase. It's actually not the bad but the drooling community tears it up. Only other things I really didn't like were the UI and options menu.
>>343868010
>shows off the crappy graphics, animations, building system, zombies, combat, ranged combat, crafting, sounds
>'y-you have to play it to know its shit!'
Okay anon
>>343868086
>im not upset!
>im just replying to every single person while throwing out /a/ reaction images and memes!
lmao, calm down pleb, no one gives a flying fuck about you or your shitty game
>>343866717
The whole 24hr commitment is what really kills these games. Logging off from a pristine base, only to log on a few hours later to a ransacked one is pretty disappointing, and most people leave the server after that.
>>343864682
>It's 2d pixel shit
I guess if 'pixel shit' you mean as in all games have pixels and are therefore shit. But PZ like most isometric games these days uses 3D models and animations and is a 3D game, 3D isometric, but still 3D.
>>343868127
Yes, you actually need to play a video game to know it's bad. I don't see how you can say the graphics are bad while watching a pixelated video on youtube of someone playing on a console. I don't see how you can judge the building system, combat or crafting without trying it yourself. If you don't like the sound effects, okay. They don't sound that bad to me.
>>343868230
Yes, I'm replying to people that have obviously never played the game. Ooo, I'm so mad.
>>343868346
>Yes, you actually need to play a video game to know it's bad
Oh god you must be trolling
>>343864258
Still blows me away that they went from DayZ Epoch mod, which is nearly perfect.. to DayZ Standalone, which in comparison is garbage.
How does that even happen?
>>343868331
>all games have pixels
And there's a thing called "pixel graphics." Look it up.
>>343868416
Now respond to the rest of the post.
>>343868346
>I'm so mad.
lmao, yes you are you mad pleb
get a life
>>343868298
There's really no way to stop it either without people abusing it to avoid being hit back. So it's a very frustrating problem. The whole genre is basically doomed because it'll always be a problem.
>>343868479
>Now respond to the rest of the post.
Why? You're trolling, and doing a pretty bad job at it. Here is your last (you).
>>343868513
>no hours played
>>343868582
So you have no argument.
>>343864407
my man i love me some project zomboid. But what's wrong with the forest? I'd say that it's gone a long way from 2 years ago. Plenty of fun with pals.
>>343868479
PZ is not pixel graphics, its full on textured 3D models. I know because i made some weapons and clothing for it as mods. Dunno why you would pretend otherwise its obvious from all the gameplay.
>>343868636
>still replying
>still this mad
oh god i cant stop laughing; reply again and prove how mad you are
>>343868770
>no
>hours
>played
>>343868859
LMAO HE DID IT you are fucking mad as fuck. called it.
>>343864258
Epoch doesn't have enough buildup to endgame, Origins is still the best
>>343868936
So you never played the game.
>>343868530
Life is Feudal has a somewhat interesting 'fix'. The owners can set hours where you can pillage freely and not lose honour. Forces factions to be present at a certain time rather than all the time. Timezones really fuck it up though, much like how it fucks up the original dilemma of 24hr vulnerability.
This is why I like 7Days with just me or a couple other people. Zombies and soon-to-be AI bandits will provide an antagonist that doesn't resort to time zone fuckery.
>>343868956
LMAO
M
A
O
Stay mad madfag
>>343868770
>Here is your last (you).
>keeps going
Are you new?
>>343869048
I assume you mean me >>343868582
Those others are not me, not going to feed that trolling shitposter anymore.
>>343869038
>7 hours
Probably before the updates.
>>343869124
>not me even though it's clearly me
k
>>343858190
these are all terrible though
at least post something decent
I miss Dayz mod sometimes.
Sure it was buggy and shit, but it was new and exciting.
Nowadays it seems to be eCelebs and twitch memers trying for le epic trololols (and being an outright cunt). Plus I sincerely and deeply regret every buying that fucking piece of shit stand alone.
Shit is just rush to find a gun then kill people until you die, respawn as close as possible and run back.
Well that and hackers STILL fucking with everything despite constant assurances they are being "dealt with". to be fair, some hackers just an alcoholic santa clause with sociopathy and ap enchant for the random. Script kiddies just did what they normally do.
>>343869175
>Probably before the updates.
>IM SO MAD ITS IMPOSSIBLE ANYONE BUT ME HAS PLAYED THIS SHITT- I MEAN GOOD GAME
L M A O
M
A
O
>>343869426
Still, seven hours though.
>>343869373
All the decent survival games get their own threads
>recent case and point subnautica
>>343869480
>I-ITS IN EARLY ACCESS
>Y-YOU DIDNT PLAY IT
>Y-YOU DIDNT PLAY IT ENOUGH
>I-I DONT WANT TO BE ALONE
>S-STOP POINTING OUT HOW SHITTY MY GAME IS
L
M
A
O
so fucking mad holy shit my sides are in orbit
>>343869480
What's even going on, anyway? 4chanx is shitting itself before i can find my way back through the reply chain and all I see is u-mad tier posting.
>>343869589
Summer kids are saying a game is bad that they haven't played, basically.
>>343869480
>implying
No game thats shit for 7 hours is worth playing ever.
>>343869589
One faggot is shitting up the thread with his rampant fanboism for 7 Days
>>343865657
this one is actually decent even for sp when you're starting out
only trouble i had is finding server without hackers or stupid kits
>sandboxer.org
any mmo's worth checking out?
>>343869665
>Summer kids are saying a game is bad that they haven't played
>>343869426
MY
FUCKING
SIDES
>>343869589
That's pretty much all it is. Just a case of summer.
>>343869736
Scroll up, we've already had the photoshop argument.
>>343869781
>I WASNT SAMEFAGGING
>B-BUT YOU ARE
HOLY SHIT SO MAD YOU LOST BRAIN FUNCTION
>>343869809
I'm not the one typing in all caps, madfaggot.
>>343869857
>S-STOP USING LAUGHINGCAPS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHA
>>343869890
>still capslock
Mad as hell.
>>343869890
>being this spergy
i smell spaghetti
>>343869857
>he says, being the only person stupid enough to spend an hour shitting on this thread endlessly because he couldnt handle other people having views different from his own
Welp, good thread, like survival it lived a short but painful life.
>>343869959
Yes, I spent time posting on 4chan just like everyone else in this entire thread. Big deal.
>>343869426
7 Days 2 Edge is ok at best, every second update breaks the game so I've given up. ie: The update where ore no longer spawned underground
Not to mention the game looks and sounds like a piece of fuckin shit
>>343870065
>The update where ore no longer spawned underground
Ore spawns underground again, though.
But survival games without an inherent goal that isn't "fill this bar that slowly depletes or the game ends, and to fill this bar you have to hit x with y for 30 minutes each in-game day" are literally boring as fuck.
These "survival" games are more like "life simulator" where you just have to do useless shit to fill the meters\bars called "thirst", "hunger", "sex" and shit:
Why doesn't anyone realize that survival means surviving in a harsh environment hoping for a change\turn of table like rescue or anything like that?
Why isn't there a fucking "survival" game where the end game is to actually fucking quitting the shitty situation you're in and going back to the civilized world?
Boy i'd sell my soul for a survival game on mars where you have to carefully plan shit until they rescue you.
>>343870104
WELL HUNKY FUCKIN DORY I BETTER DOWNLOAD IT
>>343870193
Hopefully that is in the works somewhere. I think Long Dark has a timed scenario? I don't remember.
>>343870193
>i want frequents pats on the back
Themepark MMO's are where you should go
Try WoW, i heard WoD is just for you
>>343870193
I think your Idea goes under the 'let modders handle it' shit heap. I truly am sorry.
You can say a lot about dayz. But show me any other game that gives you the feeling dayz gives you in firefights. Never have another game done that to me.
>>343870307
They talk a lot about sound effects, too. One of the lead devs does Q&A's about the game. I don't think it looks that bad but I do find some of the sound effects annoying.
>>343858190
Don't forget that most of these sandbox survivals are made by "indie" devs.
>>343858314
This. Why is this acceptable? Every decent looking game is still in early access and most show literally no signs of changing. Why should I pay for half a product? Pirating it is.
>>343863926
Still in early access and seems to not want to leave it.
>>343858190
Subnautica and the long dark are the only survival games worth playing.
>>343870521
>>343870529
Face it, survival games aren't fun.
Especially singleplayer ones, multiplayer ones can be interesting given the human interaction, but everything else becomes stale extremely fast.
In the end, these "survival meters" are just an artificial barrier you have to deal with for the majority of the game.
If you guys find the idea of fucking bashing rocks against each other for shit then why don't you just go innawoods and do "survival games" by yourself?
It's literally pointless, i understand that some autistic idiots like this kind of shit, like how the germans like to play their forklift simulator in the few hours they don't fucking work, but for the general audience these games are just boring and bland as fuck.
It doesn't help how almost all of them are early access bullshit games with a "may finish later" post-it on them.
Seriously, i had way more fun in Stalker than in all of the tenth of fucking survival games i played.
>survival games with a plot, can we have them?
>>343867501
Damn, you are trying too hard to win here. By trying too hard you have lost.
>thinking these survival games are anything but glorified deathmatch arenas
>>343858190
>>343858563
>punch trees receive wood renaissance
ftfy
>>343870193
>>343870832
Balrum maybe?
>>343870832
>survival games aren't fun.
i find them extremely fun, since i am my own master of fate. I don't need to show up tuesday at 8 to kill some magical dragon for the umpmillionth time for a shiny dagger.
if you need to be handheld in a FANTASY VIDEO GAME, then paypal me some 2 grand and ill write you a list of chores in a medieval setting
>>343870837
... How? All I did was say it wasn't edited. I think it's funny when anons are paranoid on /v/ of all places.
>>343871045
>All I did was say it wasn't edited.
But that's how you lost.
>>343870996
Your "lol mmo themepark" argument isn't working mate, i'm not asking for a pat on me head but to actually have a goal inside the game itself that isn't just "fill the meters" all the fucking time, because you can fucking be sure that after 90 in-game days that just becomes absolutely boring and bland.
I'm asking for a goal.
I already take care of myself in real life, i don't need to emulate it in real life.
There are specific limits for how much sandboxish a game can be, and locking a lotta of it behind these artificial barriers called meters isn't actually making the game "longer" or "amusing" but just more boring and grindy.
If i wanted to literally play a 1:1 scale of this shit, i'd either go innawoods doing stuff by myself or play gregtech\terrafirmacraft\any other extremely autistic bullshit mod\game.
>>343871239
Lost what?
>>343871250
>terrafirmacraft
>60 hours just to get a lump of coal
don't remind me, please
The hopeful side of me is praying Conan Exiles will stand out.
The realistic side is going 'ughh'
>>343871250
>i'm not asking for a pat on me head
>immediately follows up with a need for a goal
I think you need more of a strike, than a pat
>I already take care of myself in real life, i don't need to emulate it in real life
This is literally opening statement number 1 or 2 of Themepark babies
>wahh i don't want to farm potions for the raid
>i have OTHER THINGS To do in my RL, raids shouldn't take so long!
>I want guaranteed loot for ME in these dungeons, i have other things to do with my time than WASTE them repeating dungeons
if you are so adamant about not having any semblance of an obligation in a video game, then just load up twitch and watch other people play
>>343871167
>inb4 edited kek
>>343871313
your attempt to troll. are you thick or what?
>>343871942
I didn't even need to troll him really, he did it to himself. If you think every comment is veiled on 4chan then you should probably go outside.
>>343871667
>LOL UR A CASULLL XDD
Can you be any less an autistic faggot?
What's wrong with asking for an endgame goal that isn't inherently just staring at your screen doing the same stuff for 80 hours and pretending it's fun?
>>343871942
>>343872185
>cucked so hard he's now replying to himself
What the fuck kinda thread did a stumble into? A shit fight between a 7 days to die shill and a few angry sandbox enjoying anons.
Reminder the whole group looks like pic related.
>>343872332
>>343872485
7 days shill here. All I said was that 7 days was better than all that shit, and then I got bombarded by H1Z1 scam shills and kids that never played the game.
>>343872289
Nothing is wrong with it, in it's own environment. Don't ask for some theme-park style gameplan in a genre that is historically NOT known for it
if you don't enjoy the idea of building up a base or fortress, or collecting some random bullshit, then just don't play it, it's simple as thatp.s. you are a casual for trying to alter a game for your sole benefit and sense of priority
