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FOUR MILLION DOLLARS
it's better than nothing.
>>343858153
I would've preferred nothing.
>>343858153
Better than a prom night of a bunch of nerds
>>343858153
I sincerely think nothing would have been better at this point. I'd like to believe that most backers would rather have a video of Inafune stroking his dick off with only his middle fingers than the unpolished turd that he threw at them.
>>343858153
If he released nothing then the bar on quality wouldn't have dropped.
Lesson to take away from this?
Never back a project that is planning to release on multiple systems.
>>343858236
You still have that option.
>>343857035
Has there ever been a Jewisher move in video games? I genuinely don't know.Spore?
I gave nothing. There a lot of great megaman games. A lot. Why the fuck would you fund this shit?
>>343858615
>Why the fuck would you fund this shit?
A new mega man game is fine. One with modern graphics is something never done.
>>343857035
One
Million
troops.
>>343858153
>>343858258
As big of a disappointment MN9 turned out to be, the absolute worst thing about all of this is just how laughably the PR was.
>the terrible excuses for delays
>anime fan on prom night
>it's better than nothing
I guess when you get paid before making a game you can get away with this kind of shit.
>>343858429
As someone who kickstarted this nightmare, yes I do.
I have not played it at all. I don't fucking want it, and I don't want to suffer through playing it.
Fuck Inafune.
>>343859132
dont worry friend, i kickstarted unsung story
or whatever the fuck its called, i dont even remember anymore.
>game is shit
>backer exclusive content is not only shit but was also made into regular dlc
>4 hours of people who wasted or shitposted their money
>>343859024
Don't forget this.
>tight budget
>34K backers got a free copy of the game for donating
>44K current game owners on Steam
>Only 10K copies sold
One good thing came from MN9: the mainstream will finally learn to look at crowdfunding ideas with scrutiny. It took a colossal and unequivocal flop like this to do it, but I think people will finally spend money with their head instead of their nostalgia boner.
This is a good thing for everyone, because right now the bar is so low developers have no drive to succeed/push out a quality product. All you have to do is be a convincing con man.
>>343859487
So what are we looking at total copies acrosss all platforms? Because every display I've seen looks unsold.
>>343859487
A lot of them got their copy for consoles like the WiiU because "muh Nintendo nostalgia"
Whatever happened to the people that donated $10k?
Did that dinner with Inafune ever happened?
>>343857035
>yfw you didn't back this pos
>>343860767
>20fps with drops and crashes the console at times
>worst Famicom Mega Man titles were 60fps with some slowdown
>>343860878
It's delayed. I mean, Inafune is on a tight budget.
Was I the only one that didn't get hyped for this shitty game? I never once thought "wow this might be a good game".
>>343857035
so this is the power of crowdconning.
>>343857035
>FOUR MILLION DOLLARS
What did he mean by this?
>>343857035
>SO THIS IS THE POWER OF 4 MILLION DOLLARS?
>>343861343
artist?
>>343860881
I never back any kikestarter shit
so dumb
>>343861343
The hype was real.
>The Creator of mega Man has thrown off the shackles of Capcom, and is now going independent. For too long they've gone against his vision.
>>343861890
rakuma kanori
>>343861971
Hopefully people have learned now. There doesn't need to be a final mistake to follow Broken Age and No.9.
Please, /v/. Do not unleash the Third.
Bieng honest, after watching this review it looks kinda fun to an extent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHU6o3r0wM
>>343857035
5.22 million maple bucks!
>>343862224
So Yooka Laylee?
>>343857035
>Using backer money to run side projects and offshots without explicitly telling the backers they'd be supporting it.
That's like backing a an RTS and getting a movie instead, is there grounds to sue?
Well maybe if they made it for Dreamcast like REAL MEN
>>343862224
>Hopefully people have learned now. There doesn't need to be a final mistake to follow Broken Age and No.9.
>>343858615
Keiji Inafune and Inti Creates skillfully manipulated the masses into funding it. The timing was perfect as he was just fired, and the memory of Megaman Legends 3 was still fresh. People funded it also to spite Capcom whom they viewed as an oppressor, even after it was revealed that Inafune was in charge of several questionable decisions
>>343862268
I'm not into megaman really, I did finish a lot of them so I guess there's a certain charm, but this game is definitely not megaman. So whatever it is may be """""""fun""""""" but its neither here nor there.
>>343862224
Death Stranding will be the next disappointment, though not crowd funded
>>343861971
My favorite post from the Mighty No 9 hype thread is the one about them Shenmue III being made via Kickstarter
Oh hindsight, you are hilariously 20/20.
>>343863590
That's going to flop too right
>>343863332
i counter with the fact that Bloodstained is actually following its goals and the developers are very transparent.
>le hating on mighty number 9 meme
Summer needs to fuck off already.
Game was tough, but rewarding. It wasn't perfect but it's still a good spend.
>>343858153
He actually didn't say that. It was a mistranslation. But don't stop me from ruining your fun.
>>343863964
You're right.
It's better than nothing.
>>343863964
please fucking kill yourself you stupid piece of shit faggot cuck
>>343863964
>MN9
>tough
maybe if you're playing Ray mode where any boss can OHKO you due to the shitty health drain mechanic
>>343863964
>>>343863964
even if what you say is true, its still broken and malfunctioning on every platform
>>343864115
>He actually didn't say that. It was a mistranslation.
Inti-Creates translator said that. An official guy part of the dev team during the release party live stream. It counts.
Also the game crashed at one point during the stream.
under funded and promised something they didn't know if they could handled. That and some bad luck and bad timing really fucked it up.
It could have been a lot better even with the same management.
Still 4 million isn't all that much
>tfw you backed tides of numenara
>>343864195
>cuck
Oh look, the niGGers are here. Fuck off already.
>>343864137
Inafune didn't even say that. That was an aside from the translator. Not professional I know but fucking stop flipping out over one single quote. It doesn't take anything away from the game.
>>343864227
So you're saying you managed to beat the game effortlessly, with no difficulty? Not even the long-winded final level
>>343864337
A lot of that are rumours, especially of Wii U bricks, they didn't happen. Even if they did that's unfortunate but you still can't take away from the merits of the game.
>>343864452
If they used UE4, aimed only for PS4, Xbone and PC the game would be radically different. The ports ate up a huge amount of the budget, and drastically limited the graphics. Plus they never understood UE3 well enough to make games for it.
>>343864356
>remove my name from the credits
>>343864869
It's funny many backers didn't get their name in the game.
>>343859326
and Dina.
It would be hilarious if Inafune swore off on western collaboration after this, because that's what's he's always been obsessed with.
>>343864356
>his smile and optimism: gone
All this and still so little Beck porn to show for it, curse you conman!
>>343864591
pc saves confirmed not working on pc, despite the pc debug build saves working just fine.
slowdowns on ps4, despite more technically advanced games using UE3 working just fine
and crashing for wiiU is hella confirmed, bricking is still in rumor territory.
i mean fuck man, the game crashed on the launch day livestream with infune himself hosting it. its broken.
>>343858748
Some people in the industry are right. People don't want new games, they just want old games with new graphics. It just lends to the "why bother being creative?" creatively bankrupt approach to game design.
>>343865782
>and crashing for wiiU is hella confirmed, bricking is still in rumor territory.
Bricking is just people getting confused. Trying a soft reboot does nothing. You need to hard reboot the game.
This is the first and only game I've ever heard of that you need a hard reboot to fix though. Can you imagine how many gamestop employees had to deal with angry parents who accused the game of destroying their consoles?
>>343865714
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1906686#search=call
oddly, this was made before the actual release of the game.
>>343865841
And still they cant even do that right.
>>343866012
I meant Beck himself, not of the other characters. There was a couple pics floating during its kickstarter phase.
>>343866134
>wanting porn of Beck himself
Ok
>>343866134
i know, i just find it strange that the googling of mn9 final boss yields no results for her humanoid form, yet this was floating around before we knew what trinity even was
>>343858550
Yeah Spore was pretty close. Worse in my opinion, I kinda of lost interest in MN9 when I saw the dash through enemies shit, but I was super hyped about Spore the whole way. You know you fucked up when your character creator is ten times more fun than the game itself, no matter how good the character creator is.
>>343857035
What exactly was wrong with this? What went down? I know the SJW shit but beyond that, gameplay, etc.?
>>343857035
FOUR MILLION
>>343857035
Why does this character model look so fucking bad? It looks like something I would make and I'm pretty shitty at making good character models.
>>343866569
better than mega man x7
worse than pretty much everything else.
>>343866325
>Not wanting it
He's cute anon.
>>343866598
>Call is super emotive and cute in every piece of fanart
>Call ingame is an emotionless ice queen
What the actual fuck were they thinking?
>>343866819
If you say so
>>343866845
that's even better though
>>343866845
Budget, obviously.
less work to avoid facial animations.
>>343866617
That's a clean burning hell, I tell you what.
>>343866845
>Call F is appropriate for the roll because she's supposed to be emotionless!! *proceeds to draw Call F being all cheery and smiling* FUCK CALL E ONLY NORMIES LIKE HER *draws Call F ahegaoing during sex* CALL E IS TOO EMOTIONAL THE E STANDS FOR EMOTIONAL
>>343866251
He wears American serviceman Jackets. That's weird.
>>343866845
I don't think Call's VA/writer got the memo that robotic characters in Mega Man don't actually talk like robots.
>>343863332
>Demo was well received by fans and critics
>Team is actually responding to and acting on criticism
>Showing genuine improvement
Yeah no.
>>343867230
>>Team is actually responding to and acting on criticism
Examples? They have that backer forum thread but do they actually read that?
>>343866880
Oh i do.
>>343867350
They have a couple of team members on there yeah. Also the current shader set they're using came about due to the fans being dissatisfied with the initial screens, and shaders they were asked to vote on.
>>343867365
Beck is too derivtaive of MM.
He also ahs a visor he never uses.
>>343867478
And an actual in-game area from the demo for good measure.
>>343867503
In the original concept Beck would've popped the visor down when absorbing enemies and stealing their powers. This of course got cut with the ability stealing.
>>343867503
Doesnt mean he doesnt still have a cute look, i mostly like his expression.
>>343867598
>>343867478
Are people talking about the demo?
Problems I have with it:
>enemies too passive
>feels too slow (5-10% speedup of everything is needed)
>backgrounds too washed out (concept art backgrounds look perfect)
>area boss is a mess of design
>Miriam's torso armor doesn't change
>>343867938
Feels too SOTN and not old castlevania where enemies were setup to fuck you up, and not just sit around and take hits.
>>343867938
>enemies too passive
Well yeah it's the game's tutorial area, and it's being used in a demo for E3.
>feels too slow (5-10% speedup of everything is needed)
It moves at the exact same speed as Symphony of the Night, and there's bound to be skills or power-ups that let you move faster later on. That's always the case with Iga's games, other than Harmony of Dissonance which let you forward dash from the beginning.
>Japan makes the best games
The sad thing is, if Todd Howard were to kickstart a game project, there's a non-zero chance that it would be better than this.
Here's Inti-Creates booth at AX 2016. Notice something missing? Isn't it kind of interesting that a newly released game is absent?
>>343868231
>It moves at the exact same speed as Symphony of the Night,
Which was too slow. Aria and others sped it up a bit.
>>343868185
The giant knight is the only one that really tries to attack you. The other ones just sort of stand there and take hits.
>>343866251
Is he a westaboo?
>>343868185
>feels too SOTN
Have you never played an IGAvania game?
>>343868457
Very much so. He wants superior Westerners to come fuck Japanese women because his tiny dick can't service them.
>>343868185
So what you're saying is it feels like the games it's supposed to feel like and not the game it was never intended to.
Besides there's literally an extra mode for Classicvania gameplay.
>>343868505
>IGAvania
End this meem now.
>>343868571
So enemies are just supposed to stand around and get whacked when you run through rooms?
>>343858419
>Never back a project that is planning to release on multiple systems.
Once again, Shovel Knight presents a good comparison. Right now, it's on pretty much every single platform, but the original release was just Windows, the 3DS, and the WiiU. Then OSX and Linus a few months later, then the PS3, PS4, Vita, and Xbone about 10 months after the original release. The releases for the Sony consoles and Xbone also came with unique content that could be available only to those consoles, because they used IP's owned by those companies. The same ended up happening with the Shovel Knight Amiibo for the Nintendo versions.
This is along side a bunch of side content coming out, for free, as additions after that initial release date.
MN9 got every single one of these things wrong. Shovel Knight was always a game easily portable between consoles. While MN9 was not and shows this in all versions, where the quality of it has suffered from not only simultaneous releases but being held back by the weakest console. Shovel Knight rolls out its "DLC," those reached by the stretch goals, after the game has already launched. MN9 tries to have everything ready by the release date, and still fucked everything up by not having shit ready to go despite multiple delays and messing up the codes people got for their content. Shovel Knight has nice bonuses for each console release that are not only exclusive to those consoles, but could never be on another console anyway, making the ports seem more than just slapping shit onto every console for more sales.
>>343865841
Best part is, Inafune was one of the people saying companies need to do new things and not rehashes.
Then, when he leaves Capcom, what does he do? Immediately try to start a new franchise of notMegaman
>>343868959
THANK YOU IGA MAN
>>343868350
They had a half-assed booth for a half-assed game.
>>343868959
Thank you IGA man
>>343869119
>They had a half-assed booth for a half-assed game.
That's directly behind the Inti-Creates booth. They were storing their MN9 merchandise there. They were too scared to show it off I guess.
So, what happens to Inafune? No one will ever take him seriously and it is more than obvious that the rest of his projects will also flop.
>>343869172
>it's like an insult to their old home
Hit the nail on head
>>343869359
He's gonna coast by on Chinese money and apologist fans for another couple years til either he fails again with ReCore, Mighty No. 9-2, or Red Ash, or he manages to pull a success out of his ass.
![Red-Ash-The-Indelible-Legend-394P-Wallpaper[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/33RPXRv.jpg "Red-Ash-The-Indelible-Legend-394P-Wallpaper[1]")
>>343869359
He rides out the next few years until all of them are out. ReCore looks decent. But Comcept only did designs for that game, and wasn't heavily involved in it. Red Ash looks like another MN9 level disaster in the making. Notice that we've seen NOTHING of the game yet? Red Ash supposedly ships in 1 year's time and seeing nothing of it is pretty troubling. Expect a bunch of delays and then a mediocre buggy game.
The demo is just something thrown together in a day to give people something. And even then it looks like a student project.
>>343869738
>Red Ash supposedly ships in 1 year's time
So we can expect three delays and at least one delayed apology demo?
>>343858153
But his neck is literally nothing.
>>343869864
Yep.
Note that Bloodstained also ships in 1 year. And we have a full fledged demo of the starting area. Red Ash has nothing. Not even screens or anything.
>>343859024
Don't forget
>baby pooped his diaper? Gagabooboo? You sad now that your bullshit was exposed? Boohoo! Waaaaah fuck you
>>343859487
she's faking that laugh, you can tell.
>>343870057
I actually missed that part. Was that during the stream comments?
>>343869738
>Red Ash supposedly ships in 1 year's time
huh. Well thats going to be another shit show.
>The demo is just something thrown together in a day to give people something.
It was a desperate attempt to get funding and I'm glad it didn't work.
>>343870186
https://twitter.com/metalixk/status/547497343416041472
>>343869945
Bloodstained is actually supposed to be only eight months away, which surprises the hell out of me. I'm expecting it to get at least one delay though, just because I thought from the beginning their original estimate was a little too soon.
>>343870252
What the actual shit.
>>343857035
SIX BILLION JEWS
Is anyone going to trust Inafune again?
>>343870252
How the fuck is this real, oh my god
Inafune's fans never knew the difference between a director and a producer.
>>343870271
They could just be doing what Shovel Knight did and saving all the stretch goal shit for later.
>>343870715
>The development team announced that they would release the game using a staggered content model, following the approach used by Shovel Knight, so that they are able to release the core game on time, and bring additional content to the game over time and avoid critical release delays.[32]
>>343870715
They're doing exactly that, but I still expect the base game to take a little longer. Iga's used to working with tight deadlines and low budgets, but for most of those games his team were able to save a lot of time with reused assets from previous games, a luxury they don't have here.
>>343870154
>YouTube eceleb faking a reaction
Wow really?
>>343870252
>SJWs will bring in a new market, they said.
>>343869738
>ReCore looks decent.
No it's doesn't. It looks like complete dogshit.
>But Comcept only did designs for that game, and wasn't heavily involved in it.
Guess what Comcept did for MN9. Inti Creates were the ones who actually developed it.
>>343871325
Check the credits. Comcept people include producer, director, etc. It was a co-developed project with Inti doing most of the work, but Comcept people being involved as well.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/mighty-no-9/credits
>>343862268
>The LJN defender
That tells me everything I need to know.
This guy accepts mediocrity.
>>343867831
Those traffic cone enemies never even appeared in the game, to my recollection.
>>343871697
what's wrong with LJN?
>>343869738
I know that's just an engine test, but it's still fucking funny seeing Dr White's model from MN9 in there.
>>343871971
Yeah they were cut entirely. The game seems torn between whether it wants to be a Megaman game or not, mostly when it comes to gameplay, but those were probably one of the first casualties. I don't think the final game has a Met/Metool equivalent at all.
>>343872309
Red Ash shares the same universe as MN9.
>>343871141
If it makes you feel any better, she got a golden parachute of $315 a month in patreon welfare and they apparently haven't paid out in two months.
Karma is an even bigger bitch.
>>343872231
Just the fact that a good 90% of their games were unenjoyable licensed games?
Even up to the Dreamcast they were releasing shit.
>>343872439
Yet they have a sniper joe equivalent.
>>343867831
Early footage and concept art looked so damn good, it could have been amazing.
>>343857035
Lately i've actually started to enjoy cgi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZLl1CUT9s
There is a lot of clever stuff you can do with it as long as you're creative.
>>343870252
>Has a Patreon
Every fucking time
>>343872554
Well, they published Maximum Carnage so I forgive them.
>>343870679
Isn't it the producer's job to make sure that the ideas of the staff are feasible given the budget and to act as the middleman for the publisher and the devs? He didn't do a very good job at the first part
As someone who didn't bother to pay attention after the stupid-ass Dina shitshow (which feels like much ado about nothing in the grand scheme of things in retrospect) what should I know / care about with this?
>>343873847
If nothing else, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngbHOz--oc
>>343873847
its an ugly, average game. also its very poorly programed, issues for every platform its on, like constant crashing on wiiu, and saves not working for pc(despite them working on the debug version.) not worth it.
>>343874054
The save problem is only in the DRM-free version that was released to backers, once you install the Steam version you're good.
Although European backers had to wait four extra days to get their Steam versions.
It might've been just a 64-bit build issue but I don't know.
>>343873847
Never knew about Done until earlier this thread. What ever happened with her?
>>343860881
never backed anything on kikestarter
>morons actually hand money to a website who takes their cut telling you you're funding something
capitalism is great
>>343874297
well, when you have a bit of cash and nothing better to do, why not throw it at a kickstarter?
>>343867598
Man they need to find a way to make her character model pop more from the background. In the concepts she seems to have a light colored aura around her.
>>343872753
Every "game designer" with a Patreon has never actually made a game yet they always get hundred of dollars a month.
Look up this cunt's profiles and you'll find 0 fucking games to be found.
>>343860881
>mfw I backed Harebrained Schemes instead
Sure feels nice to give money to people who actually know what they're doing.
>>343867831
>animating a detail on a character's head
TIGHT
BUDGET
>>343874297
I don't regret backing up all things I've backed
Muv Luv for physical merch
Skullgirls for OST and digital copy
Accessory for arcade stick (quick disconnect shaft)
>>343873996
This looks like a shitty Wii shovelware title
>>343860881
I bought Megaman Legacy Collection for $10 instead
>>343857035
you know a kickstarter is mismanaged when they start offering a deluge of shit that has nothing to do with the product in the first place.
a cartoon show? how about making a good game before planning to turn it into a franchise.
biggest KS train wreck since Call of Cthulhu 7th edition. at least people got fired over that one.
>>343875861
>biggest KS train wreck
That's not Star Shitizen.
Gunvolt getting an anime before Mighty no. 9 is just icing on the cake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTQgwT0oWNo
>>343874373
Why not buy a good game, food or something else that's worth it?
Fucking nerds...
>>343874373
How about searching around for hidden gems that you can actually play immediately?
>>343869359
he'll be fine
>>343876332
Nah, that thing is a total success.For the scammers.
>>343877983
http://myanimelist.net/people/25737/Yoshinori_Odaka
![13f3eefc4ef8228161716e2ad4a11fc2_original[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lohqnUX.jpg "13f3eefc4ef8228161716e2ad4a11fc2 original[1]")
>thanks for the free money suckers.
I haven't even finished my backer copy.
I feel obligated to so I can fully comprehend my wasted money but it's just so fucking bad.
I got through the tutorial stage but I just turned the entire thing off when I did Icebot's level next.
The boss fight was so fucking horrible I couldn't continue.
At least I only wasted 20 dollars.
>>343879820
It's only twenty dollars. At least you learned to not trust Inafune or Comcept blindly anymore. Ask more for when you deal with kickstarters.
They're starting to learn from this too. Romero shut his kickstarter down so he'd at least have a demo first. He didn't want to be the next MN9.
Overall, this is GOOD for crowd sourcing. The frauds get filtered and the true people get support.
>>343860881
>>343879368
I will never understand the mentality of "I'll just donate money to this project for nothing in return." Especially in regards to huge fucking projects like this, where they don't need your donations to reach their stretch goals, much less their original ones.
>913 people backed at this tier
>$4,565 total for the tier
That's not necessarily chump change, but the base goal was 500k. The total raised was fucking $5,545,991, about 11 times more than the initial goal. $4,565 is 0.08% of that total. Not even a fucking tenth of a percentage point.
By the end of the stretch goals, each goal was measured in hundreds of thousands of dollars. It was $45,991 over the goal, losing $4,565 doesn't even bump that down. Can't you retract your backing at any point too?
Goddammit people, I know this is fucking kickstarter here, and it was only $5 dollars, but spend your money better.
>>343879820
Here's my suggested boss order so you can tolerate this shit.
No. 5 Battalion
No. 4 Seismic
No. 7 Brandish
No. 3 Dynatron
No. 8 Countershade
No. 6 Aviatar
No. 1 Pyrogen
No. 2 Cryosphere
Battalion's stage and boss fight are easy without weapons, and his weapon is OP during stages.
Each boss AND their stage is weak to the same weapon if that makes any sense.
Cyrosphere's weapon is only useful if you give any shits about combos, which you shouldn't because there is no reward or incentive for playing well.
Brandish's weapon is also very good because its standard attack doesn't consume ammo.
>>343880278
They should just remove that tier. Turn it into a more or less a pre-ordering system. 20-30 dollars you get the game. 60 dollars gets you some bonus shit. Done. No tiers higher than that, no tiers below that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UXDiQrgI6M
>"Whattaya think? Someday we will look back on this and laugh at how primitive it looks, but for now, for only one week of test work, it's pretty darn cool, don't ya think? :D"
>>343859283
>>backer exclusive content is not only shit but was also made into regular dlc
They debunked this.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/blog/2016/7/1/deep-silver-responds-to-mighty-no-9-backer-content-rumors
Might as well ask here. I heard that the physical release of Gunvolt 1+2 is coming out in the West, right? Did they say if Gunvolt 1 will have its content restored like the Steam version?
>>343860881
>mfw when it released and didn't backed
>>343857035
On the bright side, inafune career is over. He wont get any other project funded. 4 millions yes. The last 4m he will ever get from crowdfunding
>>343880684
>Mighty Beckers
>>343880624
That was before the extreme bottlenecking of the ports came into play. Notice that they actually have lighting.
Ironically, if they got LESS money, MN9 would have turned out much better. It would have gotten funding, but avoided the ports that ruined it.
These are some poorly thought out stretch goals. PS4/Xbone are far down on the list when they should have been the first things.
>PS3/360/WiiU.
Why bother? These consoels are weak as hell and ancient. If MN9 was released on time then it would have been a really late gen game, right when the new consoles were released.
>3DS/VITA
They put zero thought into this. The 3DS was never going to be able to run UE3. They have to remake the entire game in a new engine. That surely would take more time and money than just 200,000. There's no word on when or even if the 3DS or VITA versions are ever going to come out. I can just imagine the frustration of some poor porting studio having to grapple with this right now.
>>343881297
Inafune has naive Chinese to con now.
>Inafune: I am a Japanese devoloper with years of experience. I made Mega Man.
>Chinaman: Oh wow. I give you money big time. You make good game make us lots of money!
>>343880624
too bad theres no more flight attendant porn
she was great
>>343857035
Ten different platforms.
>>343881512
I'm not really sure who's scamming who in that deal, honestly.
>>343873241
Video game producers are all over the place in terms of job description. Tom Hulette was a producer for a bunch of silent hill games but basically did all the creative director jobs as well
>>343881842
Inafune's scamming the Chinese. They think he's some master game creator on par with Miyamoto. Right now Red Ash looks to be as big a bomb as MN9 was. No one cares about it and Inafune hate is high. The game would have to be amazing to turn that around.
>>343857035
>iFind, one of the biggest Kickstarter scams in history, only raised about $600,000
>4 times more than Kobe Red, arguably the most popular scam
>Mighty No. 9 was funded for more than 8 times than iFind and 32 times than Kobe Red
>finished product was rushed, yet still delayed, bottom of the barrel trash that didn't even have half the stuff in the stretch goals or backer rewards rewarded
>credits are a 4 hour long monument to who got totally & unconditionally cucked
>Inafune didn't even bother setting up his booth at Anime Expo to advertise his product
>mfw MN9 is going to go down in history as one of the biggest Kickstarter blunders ever
>mfw MN9 is going to go down as one of the biggest vidya blunders ever
>mfw I didn't back MN9
>>343873241
That's one of their jobs. Another is to be a project manager to oversee production. Others just sit in offices and okay projects and never look at them. Producers also secure funding for projects from the higher ups.
>>343865782
>pc saves confirmed not working on pc
fuck off I played it the fucking hour it was released and my saves worked fine. Confirmed my ass.
>console game problems
I'm supposed to give a shit about people who play on consoles? Especially Wii fucking U of all things IN THIS DAY AND AGE? LOL, I don't give a single fuck.
>>343882019
>>Inafune didn't even bother setting up his booth at Anime Expo to advertise his product
Yeah, he was there but Comcept didn't have a botoh as far as I can tell. And Inti-Creates didn't feature MN9 in their booth. You'd think that a game they worked on for years that's just been released is something they'd want to promote right?
>>mfw MN9 is going to go down as one of the biggest vidya blunders ever
In terms of money it's small potatoes. Daikatana was a bigger blunder at like 30 million of Eidos' money wasted.
>>343882019
It was a necessary evil to get people to not fall for it again, or at least be more careful where they throw their money at, like playing an open-world Bethesda game
>>343881378
I'm pretty sure the 3DS version is canned. There's no way they can get it to run on it if it's struggling on consoles.
>>343883574
Hense why they would need to remake it in a new engine. There's no official word on it being canned though. I wonder if they're just going to ignore it and hope everyone just forgets it rather than making an official announcement.
>>343881297
>Inafune career is over. He wont get any other project funded.
>He really believes this.
I don't think you understand the world we live in. Donald Trump fucked up with Trump University, Trump Steaks, bankrupted multiple companies and he's still rich and the republican nominee.
Kanye West is $53 million but he still pulls in $1.1 million a night while touring and has raked in about $72 million before taxes over the last three years.
People will continue doing business with Inafune.
>>343880458
The problem is kickstarter isn't just for big games or just games. $5 might make some sense if it actually got you something for a smaller project.
Though I said I'd never understand, I can vaguely see a $5 dollar "thanks" tier for some small fucking project that people might want to support. It's still dumb, but a few $5 donations might make sense on a project where a few bucks makes more of a difference.
The stupidly expensive tiers are also on a project by project basis, and are also frequently dumb, but they're dumb in another way. They often get pointless shit for ludicrously overpriced, but at that point you're technically "getting something" for your money, as overpriced as it is. And you've given so much, it at least makes more sense as a "I just want to give money to this project."
You know what? Fuck it. I'm going to count this all up in excel to see how dumb each tier was.
$60 and below, the vaguely reasonable tiers, donated 35.16% of the money but made up 68.40% of the backers. The other 64.84% of the money was donated by the other 31.60% of the backers, though they got most of it by the $250 tier (74.85% of the money and 95.11% of the backers). That's still $4,150,995, enough to get up to the Online Challenge mode stretch goal and only missing out on the 3rd playable character, prequel for PC/Consoles, prequel for handhelds, roguelike dungeon, and boss revenge mode. People above $250 are pretty much just insane, as they really only get autograph's, large map of the castle, VA's saying short messages, and the usual "get your shit in the game" nonsense. That might mean something to people, but they're each starting to cost hundreds of dollars at that tier, so it's pure enthusiast nonsense. I can't really judge the value of the rings and stained glass are. The $100 to $250 tiers get at least the soundtrack and a strategy booklet, though that's a bit over priced too (you're also getting an additional digital copy at certain tiers, too).
>>343881378
>TWO MORE STAGES!
This was probably the Call stage and the Robot Factory stage before the final stage. That the game was originally slated for eight main stages plus a final stage is dubious.
>MAC/LINUX VERSIONS!
Still not released I think.
>NEW GAME PLUS & TURBO MODE!
Basically extra difficulties after beating the game, you get to start with your eight weapons unlocked. Shouldn't fly as New Game Plus because there is literally zero customization or equipment.
>MAKING-OF DOCUMENTARY!
You can watch this shit here and is just propaganda to make themselves look not inept
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri4bV3Z186Q
>BONUS: BOSS RUSH MODE!
Yes, it's here. By the way, the game itself lacks a boss rematch gauntlet during the final stages.
>PS3/360/WII U VERSION!
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>CHALLENGE MODE!
Pretty much just debug-mode tier levels with limitations and are boring as fuck
>EXTRA END STAGE & BOSS!
Okay so wait, is this the final boss stage or not?
>BECK & CALL ONLINE CO-OP CHALLENGE MODE!!!
It's shit. The netcode is still awful and was responsible for multiple delays.
>INTRO STAGE AND BOSS
It's decent. By the way they recycle the boss for one of the "extra" stages.
>SUPPORT CHARACTER!
Uhhh, is this the Patch thing that throws you mostly useless items when you die at bosses?
>PS4 & XBOX ONE VERSIONS
This shouldn't have even been a stretch goal, it should have just aimed to be PC, PS4 and XBONE.
>PS VITA & 3DS VERSION!
Trainwreck inbound.
>SINGLE PLAYER CALL STAGE & BOSS!
This stage is shit, nobody liked it. By the way, pretty sure this is one of the "TWO EXTRA STAGES!"
>OPTIONAL RETRO-STYLE CHIPTUNE SOUNDTRACK + FX!
The retro soundtrack sounds like they used GXSCC. I think the FX are limited to the Retro Hero DLC, which happens to be a one-hit death mode.
>ONLINE BATTLE RACE MODE!!!
Plagued with issues that nobody will want to play this.
>>343883893
Intro stage was such a scam stretch goal basically paying for a tutorial level and a stage that sets up the game, don't know how the game would have been without it and Turbo (now hyper mode) is such bullshit
Beck moves at normal speed but the enemies are much faster and it's really unbalanced if you wanted to play buster only in Hyper mode you need to take a hit on the ladder in battilions stage with the two turrets opposite each other. And on another note, you can't even tell you're playing turbo mode because it doesn't activate straight away you have to wait 30 seconds.
>>343883893
>You can watch this shit here and is just propaganda to make themselves look not inept
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri4bV3Z186Q [Embed]
That's the fun. They will release more episodes and show some of the problems of the production. Even if they try to spin it, they can't hide it.
The episode we got so far is pretty cringy. It is framed as we're seeing the magic unfold behind the scenes. They're convinced this will be a great game.
>which happens to be a one-hit death mode.
Remember when Mega Man died in one hit to anything? No I don't either.
>>343883893
I'm guessing the original plan was 6 robot masters like MM1, so the "Two more stages" were Brandish and Countershade.
Countershade's stage certainly feels rushed enough to be a stretch goal.
>>343883728
If we want to get a potential look at what a strict "$20/$30-$60" system might have looked at, let's assume no one under the $28 dollar tier would've wanted to back at all, and everyone over $60 would've still got it at the highest tier with stuff, which is now $60.
Right now, the "sane" people, the $28 to $60 dollar tiers, are 43,174 people who collectively donated $1,945,480. Enough for nearly 4 times the backing, but not the ludicrous total we see now.
We lose the $4,565 donated by 913 people and gain $1,222,320 donated by the 20,372 insane backers who are now forced to be more sane. In total, that's $3,167,800. Not 5.5 million, but still very respectable. Enough to get the WiiU port, only missing out on the previously mentioned tiers in addition to asynchronous online MP, a vita port, orchestrated tracks, and an online challenge mode.
Basically, it would've been perfectly fine. The problem is kickstarter basically encourages devs to put stupid fucking tiers because you only need a few whales to make millions of dollars extra. As long as there are stupid people will to part with a large sum of money for a hope and promise, people will be willing to accept that money with probably little scruples.
Bloodstained seems to be chugging along and while it has promised a lot, it's not promising it all at once. But it's still pretty insane behavior for people.
>>343881378
>>343883893
Let's assume the game without stretch goals would've had 8 robot master stages and a single final boss level.
There are multiple stretch goals which promise extra levels.
>TWO MORE STAGES
+2
>EXTRA END STAGE & BOSS!
+1
>INTRO STAGE & BOSS!
+1
>SINGLE PLAYER CALL STAGE & BOSS!
+1?
There are 13 stages total, one of them is for the Ray DLC.
We got an intro stage sure, and I'm pretty sure that the two extra stages ended up being both the Call and Ray levels.
The extra end stage and boss is most likely the robot factory, because there's no fucking way in hell the game wasn't gonna have a final boss level.
>>343884228
If that were true the game would've been called Mighty No. 7. They planned 8 others from the start.
This character for someone that does nothing annoys me so much. She basically just exists to be "not roll" she's cute looking but that's where the fun ends. She's wooden, her personality doesn't grow, she remains the same, she only smiles on her lifebar. You could remove her from the game and it wouldn't change a thing.
Sanda and White give more support to Beck than she does. The Mighty No.'s could have broken that one guy out of prison, she literally does nothing at all in the game other than to be as mentioned before "not roll" to drive home the point that this is a spiritual succesor to Mega Man.
Does anyone agree? I did skip a few cutscnes but in the last few she still spoke the same and had that same wooden expression on her face which is a shame because from these mugshots she looked like she could have been a fun character. Fuck, even Trinity had more character development than her and she showed up at the end of the game with less screen time.
>>343884490
buuuuuuuuuuuut the downside is that if you don't deliver, people will be OUT FOR BLOOD.
>>343857035
So he only used $1000 and kept the rest for himself.
>>343884665
Her voice is fucking shit. Sounds like someone high on pain pills.
>>343884665
She was created by Dr Sanda, and doesn't have any connection to Beck. Only Dr White's robots actually have any personality because he's the AI genius of the series.
If anything, Trinity is the real Roll of the series because she is actually Beck's sister.
Trinity was also one of the Call designs you could vote for.
In the grand scheme of things this means Call is a bait & switch, Inafune made her deliberately unlikeable and pointless because in a continued series, Trinity is going to be the sister with personality and purpose. She will even have the same assimilation abilities as Beck which makes sense for co-op play.
>>343884936
JUMPING
HOLDING
BARRIER
Fucking shut up you cunt.
>>343884665
Look at all those expressions she never uses in the game. Selling the characters should have been a priority for the game. Something as simple as animated textures for faces would have made a huge difference. MML games do that, and I doubt those were high budget games.
>Heroine contest initial sketches
Yuji Natsume you fucking pedophile. That shit is straight up perverted. Little loli running around withno pants and a key needed for her heart?
>>343884698
I think we can look at past kickstarters to see just how much blood people are out for. It's hard to imagine it being worse than MN9, and I basically can't image what that would be beyond the game literally just not working or not releasing at all.
For the tiers, all the dumb 250+ tier stuff is easily doable. Get Hayter to take 2 minutes to shit out some dumb bullshit? Sign a bunch of boxes? Print some maps? Make a 4 rings and take 3 people one a dinner date? That's all easy shit. Everything else is just get people their game and soundtrack, which, admittedly, MN9 had some problems doing.
Everything game-wise is something else. They don't actually have to do anything but the original goals by whatever release date they choose. If that's a MN9 level debacle, I can't see people pulling out the torches and pitchforks any more than they are for MN9 right now. Sure, a lot of people on /v/ are, but MN9 is otherwise just a wet fart that reviewers put at 6/10 and fans rush to defend.
The thing about whales is once you donate hundreds of dollars to a game, you're beyond the point of rationality. You just want the fucking thing, and you wait years and still sing its praises. You're more paying just to pay a ridiculous amount, at that level of spending, and you get an illogical feeling of satisfaction for being the "big contributor," despite it not actually being relatively much at this point.
>>343885126
I'm convinced Inafune did this on purpose because he wanted his design to be the actual Roll design.
>>343885081
>>In the grand scheme of things this means Call is a bait & switch
I really hope so. Trinity actually looks decent, I sincerely want Call to get phased out for real and she's just a background character that sells you shit like in the later Mega Man games.
>>343885210
Was Trinity Inafune's design?
>>343884665
Totally agree
I literally cannot play this game without turning off ALL dialogue and ALL text boxes because they get in the way and repeat every single fucking attempt
I don't understand the need for Call; they don't even say "HEY WE'RE ACTIVATING THIS ROBOT BECAUSE SHE'S GOT SPECIAL SENSORS" or anything she just appears
I don't get why
>Call, the support robot who specializes in calling you about shit, has the most irritating voice to listen to barring that little water shit
>EVEN THOUGH LISTENING TO HER VOICE IS LITERALLY ALL HER FUNCTION IS
>Doesn't explain the Patch robot or why he changes colours or anything
>Has a shitton of design work expressions and powers put in to her which IS NEVER GOING TO BE USED BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY DECIDED HER PERSONALITY IS AUTISTIC
>Where the fuck is that robot dog motorcycle
>They already decided her fucking design before they even launched the Kickstarter and that contest was just a farce
>Inafune's shitty Trinity is a shit tier design after she reverts to normal, the pink one is badass
>Fuck this game
>>343885307
That's exactly what Inafune wants because his design lost in the polls.
Which is a huge fuck you to the backers who voted for their design of choice.
>Okay, you'll get your Call design
>But I'll make her character so boring and monotone you won't care about her at all
>>343885378
Trinity was Inafune's design, Call D.
I can't find the Call vote results though, only that they eliminated 5 of the 8 designs for the final vote, and D was eliminated.
>>343858550
DoubleFine Adventure was close
So how was the soundtrack?
>>343866489
I thought the primal and space stages were pretty fun desu. Then again, I haven't played Spore since its release.
>>343886204
Mediocre as fuck
>>343886204
>>343886285
And that's if you even heard it.
The sound effects and chatter completely drown out the music half the time.
>>343861971
>Creator of mega Man
Don't believe his lies
>>343886204
This is pretty much the only song I liked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs5BO6OWkl4
Reminds me of MM10's OST bland as fuck
Try and hum Pump Man's theme, you can't, you can't even remember what it sounds like without looking it up.
>>343885660
>The water/ice Mighty that literally says a bad ice/water pun in every dialog box
>Then every time it shoots shit it goes "pew pew pew!"
Just awful.
>>343886416
>Cherry picking pump man when the game had Solar Man, Chill Man, Nitro Man, Strike Man and great Wily themes
Honestly though the only part of pump man's theme I can get is the intro.
So who is she? Is she Beck's sister too? The DLC promised it'd shed some light on her but you end up finding out nothing.
More lies from Inafune.
>>343886535
Inafune was the one responsible for Flame Hyenard.
And he repeated that mistake.
How does that feel?
Comcept should have just cut back on most of the goals, remove all the unnecessary fluff like online modes. Given all the money to Inti-Creates to make the game, while they do all the concept art for enemies and character design.
So I mean
In canon
Mega Man would rape Mighty No. 9 right
Like it wouldn't even be close
>>343886984
Beck needs to absorb Xels and we're not even sure how powerful his buster really is so Mega Man wins by default.
>>343865782
>i mean fuck man, the game crashed on the launch day livestream with infune himself hosting it. its broken.
No, they just accidentally closed it. /v/ told you it did though, so now here you are parroting it to other people.
>>343869738
Red Ash wasn't backed. Why would they be giving info? And how can a game with no release date be delayed?
>>343887789
Looks like a crash to me.
>>343859225
Thanks for reminding me, asshole.
>>343888068
Yeah look at that error message, totally didn't close the game.
ICE TO MEET YOU BECK
>>343888448
PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW
comceptusa/v/73636349
MN9 launch stream no longer exists. Anyone have a backup?
>>343864356
Is that fucking Ben Judd?Thanks for also ruining Bionic Commando you cuck
>>343886416
I kinda wish you could hear it behind Avi being the world's most autistic news reporter, that song's not bad.
>>343888997
>Is that fucking Ben Judd?
Yes. He works for Inti-Creates now.
>console game problems
>I'm supposed to give a shit about people who play on consoles? Especially Wii fucking U of all things IN THIS DAY AND AGE? LOL, I don't give a single fuck.
This deep in denial that the game isn't bad when it's shit on the ports its. I want paid drones to leave /v/.
>>343860881
>Trusting Kicktstarter
>Where creators are not even held accountable
This isnt an investment website, its a gambling website.
>There's no boss rush before the final boss
THIS IS NOT A MEGAMAN GAME
FUCK YOU INAFUNE
FUCK YOU
I'VE FUCKING HAD ENOUGH
I'M SO FUCKING PISSED
I CAN'T PLAY THIS FUCKING GAME
I've tried every fucking stage and I can barely even fucking get to the bosses, not because it's difficult, but because everything is shit
The controls are slippery, the hitboxes are NOT clear, I'm meant to be dashing into everything even though there's instant death shit everywhere. Take Countershade for example; it takes upwards of 6 minutes to get him into the boss fight and then if you get hit ONCE in a very tight room it fucks your controls AND your chances of winning. The boss weapon he's weak to does absolute jack shit to him. I bet the weapon you get from him doesn't even confuse enemies, like the weapon he actually uses against you.
I got up to Brandish like twice and can't do it again because the cars are so fucking small and my dash distance is too far and you can't dash cancel. I just fucking hate everything about this game it's completely fucking shit and obnoxious. I'm going to mail Inafune a fucking nail bomb I swear to god.
>>343891435
>dash distance is too far and you can't dash cancel
You can press RB + Down to close the distance it just makes Beck do a downwards dash.
Biggest blunder since evolve or TORtanic?
>>343857035
Does anyone else think the game would have been better if they had focused on 1-3 versions instead of making one for every fucking platform? They could have ported at a later date.
Reminds me when they use to make movie tie-in games that had 9 different versions. Pic not related.
>>343881378
>online battle race mode
>>343892024
I don't think it could ever have been good
It is very clear that the people who worked on this had absolutely no idea about how to actually program a game, or hell even do level design.
I'm a backer and I remember the first half of the development time (up to july 2015 when it was due to release) the "developer emails" were literally just "Hey guys we finished designing this character what do you think?"
Like, characters are important. Sure. BUT THEY PUT ALL OF THE FUCKING WORK INTO THE CHARACTERS. WHOSE LIPS DON'T EVEN MOVE. The only redeeming feature of this game is that SOME of the characters are pretty cool looking, and by that I mean about four, NONE OF WHICH YOU ACTUALLY PLAY AS
I am just so consumed by rage
If I play anymore I'm going to smash my console, yet if I delete it I'll basically have just gotten nothing out of it
I need a fucking drink
>>343868278
>Best fighting games
>Best action games
>Best rhythm games
>Best stories in games (despite most game stories in general being garbage, DS VNs are essentially untopped)
>Best JRPGs (duh)
>Once in a blue moon up to standard WRPGs
>Best puzzle games
>Best platformers
>Best arcade games
>Best button mashers
>Best visuals in games
>Nothing quite contending against the original MGS trilogy for best stealth
>Best party games
Really the only things I see the west being superior in are strategy, shooter, and WRPG. I honestly for the life of me cannot think of even 6 genres the west does better, or has even stood closely a chance to being equal to with the east.
I am baffled as to how they thought this dash mechanic was a good idea. Like, holy shit.
You take damage if you dash into an enemy regularly. Your only means of attack is usually a ranged attack. Enemies become vulnerable at different amounts of damage, which means there's no way to know ahead of time when you actually need to dash in to finish an enemy off.
Like, they could fix this in two ways: make all enemies become vulnerable to dashes after a universally consistent amount of damage so that you can use the dash as an actual combo rather than a separate reaction, or just fucking make Megaman you dumb fucks. Who the fuck wants two-step verification to kill every enemy in a Megaman game?
>>343891973
No, that title goes to stillborn
>>343892484
>Nothing quite contending against the original MGS trilogy for best stealth
Splinter Cell?
What do you think is gonna happen to the cartoon, the movie, the comics, and the toys Inafune already invested money in? Or did he end up having to use all that money on the game itself because he blew the rest of the funds on beer and hookers?
>>343892346
>It is very clear that the people who worked on this had absolutely no idea about how to actually program a game, or hell even do level design.
The "all star" team of Mega Man veterans that Inafune promised were all artists or composers. Inti-Creates worked on the Zero series. This isn't the key people, the directors and designers who made Mega Man's gameplay so good.
>>343892346
>If I play anymore I'm going to smash my console, yet if I delete it I'll basically have just gotten nothing out of it
How much did you donate? There's the whole issue of Cost-Sunk fallacy. What value is playing MN9 to you NOW instead of looking at what money you put into it before. So if the game is rubbish just move on. It's best to usually just cut your losses.
>>343892859
I'd put it up there but I think I still prefer MGS. I should've had the decency to mention it though.
>>343857035
What items does he equip you with?
>>343892979
They made a teaser for a tv series to show to investors. None were interested. So the project is dead. The movie was just a "what if" kind of deal. That the game is a bomb means it's not happening. Same with the rest of the spin offs.
>>343862224
>final mistake
Oh my sweet summer child
https://twitter.com/YachtClubGames/status/746135059850158082
You guys filled this out right?
>>343893221
I prefer MGS overall too, it's more endearing and the stealth is more accessible, but in terms of pure stealth gameplay the best Splinter Cells are unmatched.
>>343893452
What game is that?
>>343893597
One man's final con
>>343893856
looks like Homestuck.
Only game I backed on kickstarter was Grim Dawn. Turned out great. Feels fucking good man.
>>343882498
>And Inti-Creates didn't feature MN9 in their booth
I actually went to the Inafune/Inti Creates panel at AX.
Despite the game recently coming out, it was only mentioned ONCE (in a very minor, off-handed fashion) during the entire panel. The other 99.99% of it was entirely about IC's work with past MEGAMAN titles, Capcom (no Mn9/Comcept mentions at all), and it ended with them promoting Gunvolt 2 and the new physical copies of the games.
I went in there expecting a ton of damage control and instead they just completely ignored it.
And as you said, the Mn9 section of the IC booth at the exhibition hall was totally abandoned. Me and my friends laughed our asses off when we passed by it.
I don't even know why Inafune was there, honestly. Probably just to attract people with a familiar face. And even then they only filled out maybe a quarter of the fuckhuge room they were given.
>>343894094
>Despite the game recently coming out, it was only mentioned ONCE (in a very minor, off-handed fashion) during the entire panel. The other 99.99% of it was entirely about IC's work with past MEGAMAN titles, Capcom (no Mn9/Comcept mentions at all), and it ended with them promoting Gunvolt 2 and the new physical copies of the games.
Holy shit that's insane. They're just pretending it doesn't exist now.
>I went in there expecting a ton of damage control and instead they just completely ignored it.
The stream they did was total damage control. They deleted it sadly. does anyone have backup?
>I don't even know why Inafune was there, honestly.
Would have been booked months or years in advance.
Did you go to Bloodstained's panel? Does Iga have a name for his new company yet?
>>343886806
It's just fucking omega Zero with a torn cape.
>>343894284
You mean Shin Getter 1
>>343894242
I went to Bloodstained's panel, yeah.
I'll admit that I was a little let down though. It was mostly just Q&A about Iga's life and him explaining the plot of the game (with his interpreter looking more and more confused by it as time went on) which we already know. We didn't really learn anything new about the game or any new companies. They didn't even have a video or anything.Also his room was pitifully small compared to Inafune's room (ironically it also gathered a bigger crowd as well) and Iga himself seemed rather tired (he said he was suffering from jet lag).
Though I did get to shake his hand at the end of the panel, which was pretty cool. The entire crowd also got to laugh at Mn9 when someone inevitably brought it up.
>>343893985
That's precisely what it is. A Homestuck adventure game which raised 2.5 million dollers via Kickstarter
Coming out 2014
>>343894538
Yeah, that's what I said. Omega Zero with a torn cape.
>>343893985
Yes, that's becauseit was a Homestuck game that fell through the cracks and all the money went, "missing."
>>343891404
I was just about to ask whether the game has this.
>>343858153
it is literally better than nothing. everything else is better than it.
>>343894701
>>343894695
Why is this the first I'm hearing of this? Why no news coverage?
>>343886806
Getter robo ripoff
http://yachtclubgames.com/2016/04/feat-unlocked-one-million-copies-of-shovel-knight-sold/
Shovel Knight sold over 1 million.
>>343894930
There was. Well, not "real" internet news coverage, because despite Homestuck's absurd fanbase, it's still never gotten major press.
What happened was they had hired The Odd Gentlemen to make the game with kickstarter money. As it turned out, when the time came to check in, The Odd Gentlemen had been entirely bullshitting with a few screens and videos and had stolen the money to make other games, like King's Quest. In order to get what was left of the money, Hussie basically had let them off the hook and now we're stuck with a severely pared down version being made by amateurs.
We really only know this because someone close to Hussie leaked this before it got hastily removed. What no doubt happened was Hussie was one of those "poor/lower middle classs people who gets a shitton of money and has no idea how that needs to be managed" and signed a poor contract with the Odd Gentlemen. Seeing an opportunity, they just stole the money and it would've taken too much hassle for Hussie to get it all back with the shit contract he made. So he had to settle for what they hadn't spent and trade a get out of civil court free card for it. Add to that his father died that year and crunch of ending Homestuck, and we're left with the sad state affairs are currently in.
Don't fucking kickstart hopes and prayers, people. Even for "good" creators, if they don't know how to handle it, it can all go up in flames. It's not always a con, sometimes merely ignorant incompetence.
>>343894930
It was set to release in 2014, some of the assets were shone off, and then the main creator absconded with most of the money before announcing they were working on a new point-and-click adventureKing's Quest. It was the scam no one wants to admit to.
>>343864591
>Inafune didn't even say that. That was an aside from the translator. Not professional I know but fucking stop flipping out over one single quote. It doesn't take anything away from the game.
it was in the stream, bruh
he said it
>>343894678
Bloodstained will probably be a good game. He's keeping to the basics, and is focusing on making videogames.
I'll probably play it one day.
>yfw when you play bloodstained and starcitizen still isn't out.
>yfw you remember that mighty blunder 9 got mocked by SEGA and a shitty pizza company.
>>343877983
I really hope it does well and get some sort of anime; Gunvolt has a lot of DEEP in it despite the short dialogue
>>343897354
I think the worst part about this is that it's the Sonic 2006 render.
>>343898139
Deepest lore
Bloodstained looks really good so far, maybe they need to tweak the backdash so you can't backdash like a maniac like in SotN, but maybe that's what they're going for.
Anyway it does look awesome. Anyone knows if they're going to put spells that you need to input the command like with Alucard? that's gives room for a lot of abilities.
I want to____Ray!
>>343898593
Fill the hole in her chest with semen!
>>343898419
meari-san!
I fail to imagine where this kind of money can go to.
I(me, alone) can make this game for 100000$ counting life expenses and licensing in a year and have some money left.
Ridiculous.
>>343899281
I'm sure a huge chunk went to VA work. I think videogame VA is currently un-unionized, which might help with costs a bit. Though that itself might cause problems with the anime VA's who I think might be union by now? they used.
Either way, VA no doubt ate up quite a bit. Advertising, even as shit as MN9's was, also eats up a lot of money. Very little needs to actually be spent on making a game, even these days. It's still no chump change, even four million can easily be eaten up if you have no idea what you're doing, but it's even more of a problem if you insist on hiring VA's for everyone and using ones with a reputation in the industry.
>>343860881
>people still back kickstarter projects in 2016
>>343899848
To be fair, there are one or two that have proven trustworthy...
>>343859024
>>>343858153
>>>343858258
>anime fan on prom night
>>343899848
I just backed these.
>>343857035
I'm happy with it.
Feel bad for the people that backed bloodstained tho
>>343899652
Were there even any notable VAs in it?
>>343900352
You're happy with MN9?
Elaborate.
>>343858153
Better than nothing
>>343900409
STEVE BLUM
>>343857035
FORTY
MILLION
DAGGERS
https://youtu.be/uYn33aHNVy4
>>343900515
On an unrelated tangent, are there any games where Steve Blum isn't doing his iconic Steve Blum voice?
>>343900597
Digimon?
>>343900409
Steve Blum
the guy who plays teenage Ben 10
and the guy who does Wile E. Coyote on that new shitty Bugs Bunny cartoon
>>343882120
>>343864591
>>343863964
>>/miiverse/Even those on there hate it, and only a small handful of people like you defend it
>>343900783
>You will never have Steve and Yuri do voices for characters in your game
>>343860881
>mfw I charged back this pos during the Dina fiasco
Taking my money back was so satisfying
>>343883893
>You can watch this shit here and is just propaganda to make themselves look not inept
It's funny to take a look at it and see how things were already coming apart at the seams early on, with that terrible level design being framed as "old school".
>>343884936
Use the Japanese voices, she's much better with those. As are all of them, really.
>>343868659
Same with every enemy in SOTN onwards except for bosses
>>343866845
that feel when
>>343885307
You'll get that. Beck will also become evil so Inafune can take out his hatred of X on him, so he'll die.
Have you people seen this?
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/6437256809008177275/6437256809008177288
>Nearly everyone hates the game
>The only handful of people defend this
>One of them is so butthurt over the game getting shat on that he'll block anyone that opposes it and calls you a hater even if you have a good reason why the game sucks
>Another guy thinks this game is hardcore and that the hate is from casuals, said guy is a colossal autist
>>343860881
>mfw when I backed Madness Project Nexus 2
The game is still in alpha but holy shit, it's packed with content already. And the devs are based as fuck.
>>343900597
>playing DW5 years ago
>generic troops get the Steve Blum gruff voice
>Sun Jian gets the Steve Blum not so gruff voice
>Xiahou Yuan gets the high pitched Steve Blum gruff voice
It was almost enough to take you out of the game when all three would trigger near each other.
>>343900237
>tfw nothing to tutturu about
What happened?
>>343868350
Does anyone has that Miriam pic? is cute
is it fanart?
>>343857035
Based japanese conman
He should be a role model for all talentless hacks out there, showing them that they can still make it in life
>>343857035
WHERE IS HIS NECK?
>>343903384
Tight budget, man
they couldn't afford it
>>343900456
that bin just waiting...
>>343884665
>that black outfit
MY DICK
>>343900237
what did he mean by this?
why an anime fan, is it because they cant take their waifu to prom? then why not a faggot? can faggots go to the prom with other faggots? why not zoophiles, they cant go to the prom with their stallion
>>343892024
>Does anyone else think the game would have been better if they had focused on 1-3 versions
Keiji Inafune himself came right out and said as much.
3DS / iOS was what killed it. The 3DS version ended up being the base all the other ports ran off of. that's why explosions looked better in the older footage, because now all versions are ports from 3DS, hence pizzasplosions.
>>343858550
>Has there ever been a Jewisher move in video games?
Evolve comes pretty close
>>343904654
Kek triggered weeb nigger
>>343870154
It's that iritating squinty-eyes open mouth shit that's always a giveaway. Hate it when people do that.
>>343904654
It's the social stigma Big Brother uses to make fun of the unchipped.
Prom is where kids go to get chipped and become adults.
>>343883685
>kanye is waiting for the next election to run
shame, would've been perfect deflection vote to avoid a trump victory.
>>343895530
>As it turned out, when the time came to check in, The Odd Gentlemen had been entirely bullshitting with a few screens and videos and had stolen the money to make other games, like King's Quest
That's embezzelment. That's a crime.
>>343905215
Shut up weeb kys
What are some other vidya scams?
![1b6bef1910623a0e95a5428b281305a1_original[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RIxfG6S.png "1b6bef1910623a0e95a5428b281305a1 original[1]")
>>343899281
>I fail to imagine where this kind of money can go to.
Look at the people working on Bloodstained. That's a lot of people. 4 million is just 40 people at 100,000 a year.
>>343902032
WiiU version is 20fps. That's fucking unplayable.
>>343874768
I am starting to wonder if this whole SJW pantreon circlejerk is some sort of money laundering scheme, because i doubt all the SJW have so much money to give each other while all they do is bitch online.
>>343903098
It's short term gain for long term loss. He ruined his reputation and personally only netted his standard CEO's salary for 3 years. He didn't really greatly profit from this.
Where were you when /v/ contrarians were eternally BTFO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHU6o3r0wM
>>343906236
Aren't the ps3 and 360 versions delayed too? They'll probably run at 20 fps too
>>343906379
literally who?
>>343906379
>Implying
Literally everyone but the handful of people like him hate the game. Next thing you'll tell everyone is the game is great because Arin and his jew buddy said so when they start playing it.
On a different matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqglwib7nA4
>>343906545
I encountered this faggot earlier today
He did Sonic 06, spent half an hour talking about just the story and nothing else
>>343864591
>the niGGers are here
fucking fyght me m8 with ur b8
>>343885697
>I can't find the Call vote results though, only that they eliminated 5 of the 8 designs for the final vote
That was *6* of the *9* designs, counting genius.
>>343870809
>and avoid critical release delays.
Oh look, one thing MN9 didnt haveplanning
>>343906791
>Next thing you'll tell everyone is the game is great because Arin and his jew buddy said so when they start playing it.
I checked his twitter a few days ago and he was completely silent about it. He only retweeted those who mentioned seeing his "Face in the Game" ad. You'd think that a game that Arin himself promoted, and has his face featured in it would be a game that Arin would be all over.
And the greatest irony: Remember Arin's Mega Man video? He praised the original series for adopting a "show don't tell" approach where they use the level to teach you, and criticized later games for constantly interrupting the gameplay with a helper character who never shuts up. The game Arin critiized in 2010 is exactly the game MN9 ended up being. I think Arin knows that Inafune is a con man now.
I just want more ray and dyna porn
>>343907917
>want fat Dyna
>everyone just writes it off because how do you fatten a light bulb
>>343908193
Robots can't get fat dummy
>>343860881
>backed $20
I'll just pretend I ordered a pizza
>>343908321
replace the body parts
>>343905637
Unfortunately, that depends on what the agreement was. Like how the artist for >>343905910 was not legally obligated to do any work because the contract didn't give any parameters to legally define when he could stop working. His contract said he'd get 35k for working on the project, so he got it, did something, and stopped. Same thing could have happened here. They could have been given money for game development, but that wasn't clearly defined, so they used it how they saw fit.
It's sad, but when something is in writing, or in this case isn't, there's little that can be done. Honestly I'm more suspect of Hussie since, if it was bad faith business, then he should have no hang-ups about explaining the situation. If the Yog-ass can keep their fans after their train wreck, Homestuck definitely would.
>>343908416
Might I ask why? Did you think inafune was a talented creator?
>>343857035
Can someone honestly tell me how any professional designer looks at this and says "ok this looks acceptable".
This transcends art style and preference, this just looks fucking terrible.
>>343908560
>Can someone honestly tell me how any professional designer looks at this and says "ok this looks acceptable".
It's the best they could get going, in the engine they had, whcih was massively bottle necked by the 3DS, and they also didn't understand how t use UE3.
>>343908416
I'd certainly like a $20 pizza.
>>343908504
Not him I knew he wasn't a creator but I believed that he was the reason why we got megaman games and why they were great because he kept pushing for them at capcom
>>343908471
Thats barbaric, but If I was the artist I would be over the moon, it wasnt his fault they fucked up the contract even if it did result in killing the game. General incompetence from the top of the chain is how every failed kickstarter goes.
>>343907468
I think the stage select screens of Mega Man games subconsciously sabotaged me.
>>343884665
Call H had more emotions.
>>343894094
Did they allow questions? Did anyone ask about MN9?
This is such a shock that they're just dropping it. Before it was all movies, comics, sequels, tv shows. Now they've just written it off as a loss and are pretending it doesn't exist.
>>343885660
Simple, Call was needed for the sake of the backers on multiple levels. As illusion to make them think their choices counted, and for added injury, insulting those who chose or preferred the Call who won by making her wooden and flat, with the runners up being barely-noticeable blueprints, and having a Call design who wasn't even remotely in the running be the real star of the story and get her own character arc.
To really show that Inafune despised his backers - not that it wasn't already clear from his choice of PR agents, who were about as phoned in as you can get. The closest analogue to this would be those "Get your character in the game" tiers for various games, and what did Inafune do with that? He made a character that was an active insult to everyone.
This shows the world of difference between an amateur and a professional, I'll say that much. Devs like Tony or Dingaling simply stuck unsavory backer designs far away from the game where they could do no harm to others and not much harm could be done to them. Inafune, on the other hand, is a businessman with decades of experience and he knows exactly how to say and do stuff in a spiteful way.
This is active subversion and sabotage of the entire original fanbase for Mighty No. 9, he made a mockery of their choices and when their choice won, he made sure it was about as far off as it could've possibly been. In the end for all of his bravado about the West, Inafune had a very clear disdain for them and he made it crystal clear with Call.
>>343886984
All he needs is Metal Blade.
>>343860881
>mfw i dont spend money on games that arent even done yet.
>>343892607
>which means there's no way to know ahead of time when you actually need to dash in to finish an enemy off
Except the visual and sound cue when the enemies are enveloped by a colored frame?
Hating on MN9 became a meme at this point.
>>343910351
He means that if you're going for a good absorption rate you have to guess whether or not your last shot is going to destabilize them and then immediately dash, because the rate plummets like a rock once they destabilize.
>>343860881
>tfw I didn't back any of these kickstarters
>>343908560
Professional designer here
I don't get to say anything about art unless it interferes with gameplay (messy backgrounds that are hard to see objects in, unclear UI, etc). The art director should catch any visual issues.
I would tell the level designers to step up their game though. However sometimes you just run out of time because the producer insists on releasing what you have. The issues in MN9's design were too fundamental to fix entirely, especially via crunch. Trust me I've seen shit like this before.
>>343910351
It's a well deserved meme, especially for those who actually pitched money to it and got less than stellar returns in the form of a shitty, buggy game with little to no transparency on what they were doing all those 3 years.
After Call E lost, I wished for this game to become an outright disaster, and when I firs saw that tight budget post, I knew from then on my prayers were answered. All those elitist pedo Call F supporters got what they wanted, a useless doormat personality robot girl with pantyshot and flat chest that tries to replace Roll for MN9, and people don't even like her voice and she never gets emotions, and she gets cucked by Call D of all designs. This just makes me laugh.
You can call us normiEs all you want, but the sad fact is you still defend a shitty buggy game that has been generally panned by critics and players. I won't even care that you might make excuses on why it turned out this way because it all comes down to really bad planning and management in the end, and Inafune would have been fired by actual executives with the way he handled this. Enjoy your already dying frachise.
>>343911291
Would you tell anyone totighten up the graphics on level 3
>>343910871
A) While the 100% absorption opportunity window for each enemy is short it's also lengthy enough (about a dash and a half) so you don't need to rush like a madman.
B) The absorption hitbox is much bigger than Beck so you don't even need to rush into the enemies faces. You can just safely dash above or below them and absorb them all the same given they're stunned.
>>343901860
This was disappointment #1 in this series of unfortunate events
>>343911548That crops up every now and then at the office and many of us still find it hilarious
>>343911439
>with little to no transparency on what they were doing all those 3 years.
We're getting a documentary! 1 episode was released a month ago.
Let's try and figure out what con man actually spent the money on
4 million budget
5000 to the game
2-3 million for the TV show
1 million for ports and merch
>>343911590
Not to mention you can use Cryo's weapon to greatly extend the absorption window.
>>343911607
Wrong. Pink Call was the first.
>>343911674
Oh shit, I hope it's directed and narrated by Captain Hindsight.
>>343857035
Sad thing is that a lot of people will now see Kickstarted games as trash. I was more annoyed of MN9 terrible control of sending game codes and DLC to backers. Plus the fact that Ray is just a rip-off of Getter One from Getter Robo.
>>343911945
And Megaman is a rip off of Mighty Atom and Rush is Friender. You are point?
>>343911291
Lemme ask you something:
I've only done small level work, mainly in the programming sector. But to my experience, all the designs and plans, etc, are generally finalized and compiled into what you know is the GDD. All of what we plan to implement and possibly cut due to either technical reasons or scheduling is enumerated here. How often do you see this come up where you work, and would you consider MN9 a horrific mess in this regard?
>>343911945
>Sad thing is that a lot of people will now see Kickstarted games as trash
not really
there's still a bunch of people excited for Bloodstained, Yooka Laylee, HGH, etc.
hell, MN9's trainwreck probably boosted their popularity by virtue of not being MN9
>>343911724
According to Inafune 40% of the money is eaten up by taxes and Kickstarter's cut. So they had 2.4 million left over. That budget is WAY too small for the ambitious game that Inafune was aiming for. He likely got more money from Publishes too he never told us about. But even then. You'd need 10 million for this. And you'd have to reduce the insane number of ports.
>>343911861
It's done in the style of "Let's see the magic unfold behind the scenes of this great game coming together". As such it's very cringy. And it makes me wonder when Ep 2 is coming out. Comcept and Inti-Creates strategy now it seems is to just pretend the game doesn't exist and to never mention it. So having a documentary come out over months is probably not what they want.
>>343912280
>It's done in the style of "Let's see the magic unfold behind the scenes of this great game coming together"
They should rather do it in the style of "lessons learned: How I dun fucked up"
>>343912274
Bloodstained is comign together nicely. the first demo is light year's ahead of MN9's first gameplay videos (which ended up looking exactly like the end product).
>>343912274
Bloodstained and Shenmue III will be the only good Kickstarter games.
>>343912491
>Shenmue III
lolno
>>343901860
I wonder how all those cocky Call F fags feel about what they got. I bet they feel ecstatic.
>>343912542
It will.
>>343912418
It's the same people who did the promo vid for Bloodstained and MN9. They don't want to shit talk the people who paid them.
But still, how are they going to handle later episodes? There obviously are going to be problems behind the scenes.
Oh that makes me wonder if a Game Dev reality show could work.
>>343912280
>So they had 2.4 million left over. That budget is WAY too small for the ambitious game that Inafune was aiming for.
Fucking please
>>343911439
>After Call E lost, I wished for this game to become an outright disaster
Are you real?
>>343912790
They tried one once. It was awful.
>>343904689
The 3DS can't even run UE3 though.
>>343912280
>So they had 2.4 million left over.
So how much did they have staffed on this, and what was their annual salary? Let's divide and distribute.
I make less than 30k a year doing intense physically laborious activity, it's not much but it pays the bills and you have a new house or apartment in the end. It's a productive thing. I want to know how much they make from sitting on their asses and failing at programming, which I also do on the side as a hobby.
>>343912267
Optimally you want a full and mostly set in stone GDD before you exit pre-production/prototyping. It's OK to drop features after, but not add. However this is in a perfect world.
When I get into a new project the first thing I ask for is their GDD, but 4 out of 5 times I get either nothing, something they admit is out of date, or what amounts to a pile of copypaste and idea bullet points, leaving me to write the thing. Which I don't mind, I love documentation.
A lot of project culture comes down to the producer, at least where I work since they have a lot of power over a team. Usually most producers will yield to me if I insist on changing something, but I've worked under a few who, mostly due to seniority in the industry, will gladly override me or at least bring it to a compromise. Others admit they aren't well versed on the core design side and just let me do my thing.
MN9 seems like it needed a firmer vision from day 1 and that it had too many compromises along the way. A good lesson I learned is, that every time you change direction on a game, SCRAP EVERYTHING and start over. If you build over legacy things, you end up with a weird Frankenstein abomination that plays like ass.
>>343912816
3D games add complication and eat up budgets more than 2D games. A 2D/3D mix like Shantae Half Genie Hero would have been a nice middle ground actually.
>Skullgirls
Which manages to look like super smooth shit. It's the worst of both worlds. Expensive and doesn't even look that good. Has a kind of flash cartoony look.
Could someone post the pasta of the dinner with Inafune. It always makes me chuckle.
>>343913220
3D is cheaper to make than 2d don't even kid yourself.
>>343913220
>3D games add complication and eat up budgets more than 2D games.
You mean like Serious Sam 3 BFE which had a large 3D environment, AAA level graphics, physics and destruction engine etc.?
>>343912816
Don't forget LISA the Painful which only costed nearly $17,000.
I didn't know Dragon's Crown cost only a million.
>A Golden Axe style RPG with excellent hand drawn art for literally everything on screen is better than something with millions for it's budget that looks like a cheap IOS game
Where did the money go?
>>343912816
If they went full 2D, kept it simple, the game could have cost 300,000 and have been out years ago. Instead Unreal Engine 3, full 3D, a million ports, etc.
>>343912098
Nu-uh, Mega man is a totally original concept! He's a video game icon and every robot hero ever is a copy of him!
>>343913220
Fun fact:
Skullgirls holds the Guinness world record for "Most Frames of Animation per Character" with an average of 1,439 frames per fighter
>>343913171
>MN9 seems like it needed a firmer vision from day 1 and that it had too many compromises along the way. A good lesson I learned is, that every time you change direction on a game, SCRAP EVERYTHING and start over. If you build over legacy things, you end up with a weird Frankenstein abomination that plays like ass.
That's what I thought. I felt they had no idea what direction they wanted to take the whole thing and where running around with their heads cut off trying to compensate for features they apparently realized was "too expensive", (ie "tight budget") to implement and they had no fallback plans. Meanwhile my experience is that they tend to put in things like "if we can't do this then this will be the solution instead".
>>343912596
I hope they feel like slitting their wrists.
>>343913430
the animations look like shit tho
>>343860881
>>343913493
That's because you're still a child
>There are people here who defend this game despite it being an utter failure
>Same as DMC: Devil May Cry apologists
>>343913372
Well dragon's crown doesn't have too many frames of animation so that's one of the reasons why it's cheaper.
If it were along the lines of KoF13 animations the price would be significantly higher. Terry by himself took 8 months to make and cost almost $300k
>>343857035
If they only made ports to PC, Linux and Mac and actually spent their money WELL on everything else.
Would it have been good?
>>343913328
>3D is cheaper to make than 2d don't even kid yourself.
I will NEVER buy this.
According to Sh2's director the average PS1 game was 3-5 million. Average PS2 was 7-10 million. Budgets kept getting higher than there. No clue on what the numbers for Famicom and Super Famicom budgets were, but I imagine they were around the 300,000-1.5 million range.
A 2D engine with 2D assets is easier to work with, easier to port, uses less Computational power to run, etc.
>>343913432
I'm a firm believer in the system we established a while ago where any game idea needs to pass an inspection before it gets greenlit for prototyping, another to get into pre-production and a final one before full production. Then it still needs one more greenlight to release or get more funding.
Really helps cut down half-assed ideas like one shitshow that was essentially a year and a half of prototypes made off ONE piece of concept art one of the higher ups liked. The whole team assigned to that quit at the end.
>>343861971
But he's not the creator. HE'S THE CHARACTER DESIGNER
So what was the deal with the clique going apeshit defending this crap? You would think BLM's continued existence hinged on this game's review scores.
>>343913723
I remember SNK saying that they will never ever make another game that looks like KoF13 because it was just way too hard
>>343860878
Sure.It's on the backers' tab though
>>343913430
Whoa, cool!
>>343862268
I like the LJN defender, but he's so fucking ugly.
>>343913220
>3D games add complication
But this is on a 2D plane for a game with 2D gameplay. The complexity only comes from the graphics, but the physics engine remains the same level of difficulty as any generic 2D platformer, because the math/computation never changes. You're not asked to calculate the normal for a surface to do 3D interceptions or anything like that. Hell, the normal of something 2D is just a perpendicular line which is just swapping x and y and potentially making one of them negative. That's it. You only add complications to physics, collision and boundaries, etc, if you actually bother to address the z axis physically, not graphically.
>>343914008
He creeps me that fuck out. I can't watch his videos.
>>343913430
And the art style is completely unimpressive. I look at a nice 2D figher by Capcom, or SNK during the 90's and I think "Woah." I look at Skullgirls and go "whatever".
Look at this. Capcom did a bunch of well animated judges whom you almost NEVER see in-game. They just look and move so cool. Having no black outlines and a much better art style helps.
http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Judgment_Girls
>>343913723
>>343913965
The 2D art is amazing but this is most likely why the new KOF is in 3D as it's too time consuming and it's cheaper just to manipulate the 3D model than drawing each individual sprite. Shame though.
>>343913382
Yeah they should have taken a Shantae approach to the design of the game.
>>343913780
You're forgetting that 2d everything has to be hand drawn and take much longer time to make. Look at >>343913723 a single character cost $300k and 8 months to make and that is just for a simple fighting game. Not to mention 2d animation for even tv shows are super expensive. A single episode of the simpsons for example cost $2million to make. One episode of one season and that isn't including voice work and how shit modern 2d animation is. 2D is super expensive
>>343914204
I'm not too fond of Skullgirl's artstyle either, but the amount of work put into it is admirable.
>>343914204
this
skullgirls, while impressive for the work, is nowhere near as good looking as retro SNK and capcom, even konami's old arcade stuff was great
those had style and charm
>>343914204
Just because you don't like the art syle doesn't mean the animation isn't fluid and well done.
>>343914043
You're missing the point. 3D modeling/animation requires a higher budget than 2D sprites, with the exception of extremely animation-intensive games, of which Mega Man is not.
>>343860881
>tfw never backed any kickstarters
>>343914043
You have it wrong. The gameplay is 2D, but the engine is still 3D, the graphics are still 3D. It increases the complication and thus budget of the title immensely.
There's a million decent looking 2D platformers put out by small teams or even single people. They have tiny budgets. Look at Rosenkreuzstilette, or the Gunvolt games, or Shovel Knight, etc etc.. Tiny budgets, tiny teams, put them out in a fraction of the time MN9 took it.
>>343914565
he never said it wasn't well done, he just finds the artstyle unimpressive
>>343914214
Some idiot's solution to that sprite thing for SNK was for them to "wait until they got people who can actually draw". For the record, finding people who knew how to draw by itself isn't the daunting task. It was a matter of getting someone who could do it so incredibly fast that it would take only mere minutes to draw a frame. This is literally impossible. They often cite those deviantartists who make their own sprite edits for KOFXIII style. But guess how long that took them to make that one frame? Most likely days, if not weeks. Just one goddamn frame. And it's often an editjob. The people who try to come up with solutions to keep 2D graphics are spoiled gay white SanFran residents, I'm sure. They haven't a clue about what work is all about and how much it takes to make something happen.
With 3D, the complexity just comes from rigging, to include SDs. After that, posing and tweaking skin deformations are all that they need to worry about, and that is definitely far from the amount of work they'd have to put in just to draw one sprite at the level KOFXIII had them, which weren't even at HD resolution.
>>343914352
This is classic cherry-picking. Most 2D games don't require nearly the time investment. And how on earth was your figure of 300K obtained?
>>343914352
>A single episode of the simpsons for example cost $2million to make.
Mostly because of expensive ass voice talent
>>343914634
>There's a million decent looking 2D platformers put out by small teams or even single people. They have tiny budgets.
>Tiny budgets, tiny teams, put them out in a fraction of the time MN9 took it.
You could say this from some 3D games though
>>343863964
>Game was tough, but rewarding.
It was only tough when you're first starting out and figuring out controls. And the occasional curveball, like the turbine section in Dynatron's stage where holding down while dashing suddenly matters even though the game's been automatically making you go low when you dash through low ceilings. Or making frozen ledges ungrabbable in Cryosphere's stage even though I don't remember there being frozen platforms in any other stage. Or Countershade's only checkpoint being before the fight with him (his level is piss-easy but tedious).
>It wasn't perfect but it's still a good spend
Good to see you at least found it okay, but this game is worth $10 MAX. Anyone who can buy this after launch, play it and think "this is worth $20" is seriously lying to themselves.
>>343915101
But they're much rarer. Why do you think that might be?
>>343914571
>You're missing the point. 3D modeling/animation requires a higher budget than 2D sprites
Not really. You're failing to measure a lot of variables in that case. To generate 2d work for the resolution that you want to work at consistently, with the same level of animation that you'd have to do for 3D modeling, is not cheaper at all. If you had simple 2D work that had choppier animation and lower resolution friendly, then yes, you'd be correct, but that's for cheap pixel artists doing simple jobs.
If you did the entirety of something like, let's say the newer Tomb Raider reboot, in 2D animation, I can assure you the budget for that would be very very intense and immeasurable compared to just working with a rigged model.
The same thing goes for Street Fighter V. Imagine all the work to make 2D sprites with the same level animation, detail and resolution as the game in 3D. You're asking for a very expensive budget.
No, I'm not missing the point at all.
>>343914634
>You have it wrong. The gameplay is 2D, but the engine is still 3D
I actually program, so no, I don't have it wrong. How about you?
>>343912280
>That budget is WAY too small for the ambitious game that Inafune was aiming for.
He was aiming for a megaman clone those shouldn't be hard to make at all.
>>343902032
Holy shit these drawings!
>>343915237
>Why do you think that might be?
Probably because most developers would make the gameplay 3D if they are already using models instead of sprites
>>343914352
>A single episode of the simpsons for example cost $2million to make.
Those shows shouldn't be used as an example as they are super bloated. The VA's ask for millions each year. As does everyone else involved. The animation is completely unimpressive.
A more apt comparison would be a standard Japanese or Western anime tv show.
>>343916642
What the fuck is that thing?
>>343886984
>raped
Ugh....
When does the 3DS version come out?
>>343916976
Probably never
>>343863964
i felt like people were being too hard on the game too, like it wasnt too bad just needed some more polish
..then I played Cryo's level. That level/boss alone dropped my score of the game a solid 2 points.
>>343916080
>He was aiming for a megaman clone those shouldn't be hard to make at all.
It's not. You can do taht for 50,000, 6 months and a small team. Inafune was aiming for a multi-media empire and a current generation game with great graphics on all platforms, released at the same time.
>>343916876
HAHAHAHAH
I love that word
>>343917379
All that probably would have happened naturally if he worked the game within his means
>>343863964
>le implication
Yep, I can already see this post's nature
>>343905910
Details on this one? I ignored it at the time.
>>343868278
>Japan makes the best games
not all the time
>>343914634
>but the engine is still 3D, the graphics are still 3D. It increases the complication and thus budget of the title immensely.
Question:
If that were true, why is Bloodstained 3D? Why is the Nintendo platformers 3D despiste being 2D in gameplay?
Even if you are a big company like Nintendo, why won't you pick the option to "reduce the budget immensely"?Because you are wrong, thats why
>>343867467
>X and Zero Called his bullshit from the start
Based Maverick Hunters.
>>343918173
it's clearly an edit
>>343918132
Basically artist got payed for doing nothing because there were no specific amount of work required in their contract, yogcast doing scummy shit behind the scenes and backers are left with nothing after spenind hundreds or thousands on the game but steam keys for unrelated games that valued at $15
>>343880194
Don't post her anymore you absolute shit. Let me fucking forget.
>>343868959
I'll give you my thanks when the game is released and if it is as good or better than Castlevania.
>>343909784
I don't like Con man and MM9 kek but DAMN SON, it's just a videogame. There is no secret agenda, subtle racism or anything. He did a shit game and took your money.
call down!
I pirated it and couldn't cough up the motivation to install :(
>>343914204
people only like Skullgirls because the animator was a grill and worked wearing only pantsu
cucks
>>343860878
>Inafune shows up 45 minutes late
>he orders the most expensive things on the menu
>he makes you pay
>he leaves 30 minutes earlier than promised because he's busy
>he tells you to be grateful he showed up at all
>>343860878
>>343861005
>>343913967
>>343920859
Yeah, about that.
>>343919178
>mfw this is my wallpaper
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