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So are there any good players with him yet?
Me. I can floor anyone on /v/ with anyone.
>>343845374
Of course there are, a few have bodied PrRog on stream today
Snake Eyez was using him for a while, though I think he's pushing Zangief harder.
Him and LPN are the only mains I can recall offhand.
I've been watching some of my old replays and I was just wondering. I do like him as a character, and I mix it up between him and ken.
Not as a main. It's been said often that has some potential as a side character, but suffers much like gief in having to put in work as a main.
Renic, an old 3S player, gave him a good shot for a while a few months ago but looks to have given up. I think LPN is the only one regularly drawing him out, as snake has largely gone back to gief recently with Alex for certain match-ups.
>>343846487
Poor snake. His main just suck this time around. Wonder how long it'll take for him to default to ryu.
>>343845374
coolkid98 is an alex main stomping my local scene
he was top 100 online too last I checked.
>>343846487
He dropped both for Ryu.
He pretty much has stockholm syndrome for this game. His best option is to go back to USF4 or SSF2T.
Fuck this game and everyone who supports it.
Justin Wong has been learning him and Guile.
>>343850829
There is literally nothing wrong with SF5, fuck off goober.
>>343851028
>8 frame input delay
>subby ass normals
>5 frame startup command grabs. All of them don't hard bar Gief's super, which just looks like guile's grab
>shit priority system
>worse wakeup game than 4. No reversal? Guess what, your main is trash and you should drop it
>bad character balance
>guile update fucked up the netcode
>hyped up an extremely anti-climatic story and sends bison off in the worst way possible
>hit and miss soundtrack. Zangief's theme is atrocious for example
>took 5 goddamn months for shit that should have been in the game on release
>beat survival on expert? Good for you buddy, you got disconnected and didn't get the fight money while still registering that you cleared it
Your game is shit Ono
>>343851763
So are you a Guilty Gear fag mad that your game is dead? Sakurafag/Akumafag/Sagatfag mad that your shotoshitter main isn't in the game? Or did you just get rekt and are looking for excuses?
>No reversal? Guess what, your main is trash and you should drop it
Fucking idiot. Nash has no reversal and is easily top 3.
>>343852515
>Nash
He has both the best V-reversal in the game and one of if not the best V-trigger in the game. If that wasn't enough he has the second best projectile in the game.
If you get knocked down as Nash, you deserve to lose the round.
>>343846250
>(You)
>florring a /v/eteran
Come on, dude.
>>343852515
Nigga Alpha 3 and Third Strike are far better than 5 will ever be.
Don't trash Guilty Gear because your shitter ass can't learn how to play it.
>>343853020
>Alpha 3
>Good
Quit dickriding.
>>343853202
>hating Alpha 3
Look at this faggot, look at him and laugh
>>343853020
>>343853202
>>343853324
why dont you retards just post your cfn name and play each other pussies
>>343853324
He's right, it's fucking shit.
>>343853202
>dickriding alpha 3 meme
>but 5 is great
Maximum pleb
>>343846250
>i can dunk on the local wheelchair basketball team
wow man way to go
>>343853020
Oh so you are a buttblasted goober. Thanks for clarifying.
>>343853761
>goober
this is the best capcum guzzlers can come up with lol
V-triggers should have been weaker across the board. As it is now it feels like they made a bunch of complete characters, then took shit out so they could put something in V-trigger.
>>343853761
>goober
16ers need to fucking die in a fire
Kenny Omega.
How do I get fight money easily
is survival on normal mode the best way
damn i will never buy Juri like this (spend like 250k so far)
>>343853996
>16ers
>not 016ers
016er spotted
>>343853849
>>343853996
Lmao says the faggots that cried when Meleefags booed at them. Poor babies :(
>>343853761
>muh spoky goobers!
>>343853849
>>343853996
fucking goobs wow
>>343854054
That's just fuckin trivial and you know it.
Your taste in fighters is shit, fuck off and never come back. Bonus points if you kill yourself
I think I'm gonna pick him up again when I have more fight money, cause my priorities are Juri and probably Urien
Not having a 3 frame jab hurts. Same with having no wake up options. This is an issue with other characters as well, not just Alex.
I'd like to see ex armor moves being options on wake up.
ITT:
https://youtu.be/9Ei89MsnCd0
>>343851763
>Zangief's theme is atrocious for example
Kay Why Ess
>>343852515
>>343853020
>>343853761
>>343853849
>>343853996
>>343854054
>>343854185
>>343854216
>>343854249
Go back to your contaiment general.
>>343853761
>goober
>>343854419
It's pretty lame when compared to any and all of his previous appearances.
Now the over-dramatic style they insist on having in the character tracks works really well for Guile and Vega, but Vega always ends up with the best music anyway.
>>343854504
Amen to that. Hate it when idiots from /fgg/ start leaking out.
Even after all these updates I'd still say that the game's only around 0.8, 0.9 on a good day.
>>343854504
>>343854558
>>343854737
>bawwww why are meleefags so mean to me :( mommy please change my diaper
>it's a "shitters fight through imageboard memes instead of their game because they suck" episode
classic /v/
>>343856295
Do you want milk and cookies too?
>>343845374
Didn't Snakeyez switched to him?
>>343850829
Not this shit again. Shitposters should just stay the fuck away from SF5 threads.
>>343857156
For a little bit. Word on the street is that he's only played Ryu at the last couple events he bothered to show up to. Same with Gustavo.
LPN is the only notable player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvyziJyz1m8
Alex is just awful.
>>343857079
Why don't you go jack off to your weebshit permavirgin game you fucking goober lmao. sfv is the big boys' game.
>>343845374
justin wong thinks he is op, but he has a thing for guile. If guile was not in the roster justin would have mained alex
>>343858664
Wong only ever played Karin in tournament. Are you thinking of someone else?
>>343858537
>some random shitter trying to tell me what games are good
you're not even half-decent at the one you want me to play, why would i take your opinion on games you don't?
>>343860779
post your cfn
>>343860837
unless you're going to play me there's no reason lol
>>343860936
Nice duck faggot.
>>343861143
you and i both now you're not going to play, let's not pretend otherwise trashcan-kun
>>343859327
Wong definitely plays guile and Karin. I think he changed his mind about Alex once he saw what guile can do.
Alex will never, ever win a major tournament
>>343852918
90% of /v/ probably can't even get out of super bronze
>>343863528
fuck you man i got to ultra bronze for a bout two matches
i hope in streetfigher 6 they remove ken and ryu just so i never have to play those two faggots ever again. i am so tired of them.
>>343845374
Infiltration maybe but I think he's working on his f.a.n.g for evo, he just took some no-name tourney with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhWMu3Yd-As
>>343852778
Nash's v trigger is garbage. Just because you can't do meaty setups and let him use it on wakeup doesn't mean it's good. Even if you can't it's super easy to counter if you watch out for it. Best v trigger in the game my fucking ass
'least he's not as bad as zangief
>>343845374
After years of watching the fighting game scene from a distance I've finally tried to get good at a fighting game.
SF5 is that game and I decided I wanted to main Alex. I've lost 15 casual matches in a row and I've been perfected both rounds 3 times.
I haven't won once
I didn't just hope onto online either, I did the story mode and all the mini stories for each character.
HOW DO I GIT GUD
>>343845374
Karin and Chun Li are literally better grapplers than him. Alex isn't awful, but he's boring as fuck. All you can do is cr. MP all day and then st. LP their jump ins for a painfully slow victory. Power Bomb has laughable range and startup making it never worth the risk.
>>343864281
Do some trials/training mode and figure out some combos
>>343864281
Casual matches don't necessarily pair you with people on you skill level so don't take those losses seriously.
Don't be afraid to lose on ranked, since that's where you'll find people who are also new. I lost tons of games as Alex before I got the hang of him and now I sit comfortably at bronze.
Best part of using low tiers like Alex is that no one knows wha to expect. They let me fully charge sledgehammer full screen thinking they'll block it. Their guard breaks and I get heavy chop into ex suplex.
Always remember that most people who play this game suck and don't play absolutely optimally. The shit you see on twitch and youtube is 1% of players. Everybody was once like you until they got better thru determination and practice. There is no shortcut. Just be prepared to lose a lot before you "git gud" esp with a game like street fighter. Most people give up because fighter require more patience and time than other genres.
>>343845374
I was about to say KSK, but he went back to R.Mika.
this thread went exactly how I expected it would
niggas can't fucking accept that the game is shitty right now with a messy as fuck netcode
>>343869258
They are going to make so much money off this shit
>>343864182
What it lacks in raw offensive pressure, it gains in sheer versatility. A lot of players have been using it as a defensive tool now to get out of a bad position.
Infiltration pretty much uses it as a v-reversal that doesn't require blocking attacks.
>>343869364
t. smashkid
>>343869529
I really hope they do packs cause I'm not buying this stuff at normal price
>>343864281
Block, dude
Block, calm down, consider your options with your normal hits and your special moves
>>343864281
Practice.
There's plenty of baddies out there and if you do the right things you should get better than them.
Also, having a sparring buddy that's silver or lower is good for getting out of rookie, especially if they're cool to give you hints.
>>343864182
Nash has a fantastic trigger, the only other person I've ever heard shit on it is ltg. The only way it doesn't work, even by accident, is if you're retarded and fall for very obvious baits or use when they're in the air. Necalli and guile are the only others that come close, maybe chuns too.
>>343864281
Here's a quick Alex gimmick for you that will let you shit all over scrubs.
Make them block towards+HP, the big spinning arm move. If they block it you're at +3, meaning things like if they try to do anything other than jump, backdash, or use an invincible reversal, power bomb will catch them. You mix it up with MP because it will tag them if they try to hit any button that isn't invincible, or if they try to jump or backdash away from the power bomb that you scared them with.
It's slightly more complicated than that but you will fuck lots of bitches with it.
Why is Bison so bad /v/?
I just block low and he he dies.
>>343845374
Does Alex have the tastiest looking fruit rollups in the game?
I say yes.
>>343869776
Never ever. They're going to mostly release the outfits one at a time to give players the best chance to buy every single fucking costume that is released.
>>343870276
One thing I noticed is that Alex players don't use his stomp enough against charge characters. Yeah it's still shitty, but it surprises them because they're usually holding down back, and the last thing they expect is a super fast ex stomp just when they were about to release. I saw that it threw off prrog a few times when he fought alexs
>>343870761
Ex stomp is also actually positive on block too unlike the rest of the stomps.
And then you have charge buffering gimmicks where you do shit like downback turtling, and then you stand jab anti-air and cancel into head crush to catch them as they land. It's actually a lot easier than it sounds for people that haven't done it. Or with the lariat, you start charging as you as you throw it out, they block and then you MP and cancel into head crush. Alex has some pretty fun gimmicks along with his actual solid shit.
What can Urine get off his headbutt?
>>343853872
i love playing as her
Yeah me.
I'm a literal SF god.
>>343871610
Take your sick fetish out of this thead, faggot.
>>/d/
>>343872225
forgot pic
>mfw this game will never reach the glory of SF4
>>343871610
L/M: nothing
H: knockdown
Ex: air juggle state, if you haven't done any other previous juggles before it, any tackle will do, if you did, ex tackle for combo finisher.
F. MP also works from any juggle state for ground reset.
>>343872323
Now if only they could fix her non-vtrigger stocks in the mod so we could really get that training in.
>>343872529
but it will did you even watch ceo finals
>>343872323
That looks fucking stupid
>>343872323
why dont you just jack off before playing a fighting game
>3S Alex is probably the first character I mained.
>I knew he was a low tier character but he was the main face and a really easy character, so who cares.
>Learn what combos, charging and other basic concepts are with him, time well spent.
>Having a lot of fun with him online even when online
> I figure why he is shit (That fuckin hurtbox, literally EVERYTHING is unsafe with him, all his SAs are shit,etc.)
> End up frustated against chun and ken, and decide to have it as a pocket character.
>Wait for him to be in SF5
>He is. He is shit, and looks like shit. His only redemeable feature is his theme, still worse than the original.
WAKE ME UP
>>343874610
what. shut up. i dont care
>>343854052
Google one round survival mod, download it and stick it in the mod folder (seriously, it takes like 20 seconds to get it set up)
Then just play through every character's survival on all difficulties. You'll win after one round. I made 1 million fightbuxx in like 30 minutes, and Capcom can't detect it / doesn't give a shit.
>>343874610
>and looks like shit
Nigga looks like a fucking wrestler what more do you want
>>343875206
costume bomber jacket would be a good start.
>>343873957
Did I watch the same characters/people like in any other major final?
>>343874610
Accept that grapplers will never be top tier in Capcom games. Seriously the only time I can think of where Zangief was the best character in the game was SFEX where the system mechanics worked well with his strengths
Extra difficulty is surprisingly challenging on some fights. I like that they change health depending on events in the story.
Not like stupid old fighting game boss hard though, would be nice if they added that. Also wish there was some kind of middle difficulty as well
>>343875290
Nah the only real good change would be the bodypaint or longer hair
>>343853872
all the good characters just have vtrigger as a combo extension or safe FADC type shit (like ryu's l.hk into vtrigger)
>>343864281
>I didn't just hope onto online either, I did the story mode and all the mini stories for each character.
ok, you need some clarification.
story mode and character story are a complete joke. the AI is laughably bad and you can perfect them with using just one or two good normals over and over again.
if you want to git gut at alex, watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfriy-a2vLY
open your game and play along. listen to what he says, try and do the same moves and combos he does. play around with the tools you have.
what you need to do to be able to play other people:
>learn to consistently use your special moves
>practice your go-to combos until you can consistently apply them on demand
>familiarize yourself with your character's normals - how fast are they, what's their range, which normal is good in what situation, what does each move link or cancel into
these are the absolute basics. once you have these down, you can start playing other people. you will still lose a ton, but now you don't just lose because you have no idea what you're doing, but because you get outplayed. and when you get outplayed, you can learn from it and get better each time.
Did anyone else here severely underrate Ryu and Ken and overrated Bison?
>>343845374
the zero gravity soda looks stupid and SFV animations are god awful compared to 2D
>>343869529
All things considered they Need to make money of this shit, and I hope they do.Because I really want to see the story progress and get my "SF3: Final Blow"
>>343870443
Bison was so hyped out when the game came out
East Coast was hyped up as well, but they turned out to be shit
literally where is LI Joe
>>343875696
>SFV animations are god awful
You can complain about a lot of things in sfv, but animation is not one of them.
In fact the game looks far better in motion than in stills
>>343876141
>the game looks far better in motion than in stills
how the duck did they do this?
the game looks fantastic in motion, but still images and screenshots are fucking trash, with weird as fuck lighting, garbage shadows, and tons of clipping.
i have never seen this discrepancy in any other game before
>>343876094
playing Urien in story mode
is the hori fight pad any good the dpad on my ds4 broke
>>343876241
The answer lies in the heart of battle
>>343875919
I just want more story in general. The story mode was fun hitting that right kind of cheesy note but obviously rushed in many places.
I'd love to see them do a big retelling of SF3's whole story especially now that the original story of SF pretty much has no loose ends.
>>343876701
I think cinematic mode might have another season, so they left things intentionally vague...I can only hope anyways.
>>343877107
>so they left things intentionally vague
I think the only thing that felt vague was Necalli. Everything else was just a conclusion like how Bison died for real or set up for SF3 which we know what happens
>>343876241
>the game looks fantastic in motion
lolno
and you likely just have motion blur on
>>343877240
Bison's "death" was vague as fuck he'll be back
I wonder how they will introduce this glorius fucker back into the story
>>343875689
Everyone knew Ryu was good from the start. Lots of people overrated Bison and underrated Ken though - which is fair enough since nobody knew about Ken's dodgy hitstun stuff and his frame data looks mediocre on paper.
The best part of every SF game is the shit talking on message boards by losers who take them seriously
>>343877240
>fails to absorb ryu
>fails to absorb bison
>fails to absorb charlie in his sleep
>then fades off after dhalsim is all like "ryu randomly knows the satsui no hadou so you can't have his special sauce"
Akuma is gonna blow a gasket when he finds out about this.
Charge newbie here. Am I supposed to be able to run up, jab twice and cancel into dash punch with Balrog? Or do I actually have to delay it for a split second to get enough charge? I can't tell if I'm just slow or not.
>>343874342
you tell me
>>343877605
"You claim to be the master of fists... This disturbs me... The road to true mastery is much harder. Let us travel it now..."
>>343845374
Does he play anything like he did in 3rd Strike? thinking of picking up SFV soon and attending some local events
>>343877885
You go to character select and stop playing trash characters.
>>343877605
It was more conclusive than before, we actually saw him break apart and get blown up/crushed. Plus they don't even need to bring him back now they have Ed
>>343877835
>Akuma is gonna blow a gasket when he finds out about this.
They are gonna need to fight for who is a bigger jobber who can't kill anyone
>>343877240
>Necalli
>Dolls
>Bison's 'death'
>Ed
>Juri
Too much of it has little meaning - I feel like it can't really be the end. Too many characters with involvement in the series seemingly have no role to fulfill. there's pretty important Bison related characters who don't even appear. Either that or the writing is inexcusably horrible. I'm trying to be optimistic.
Necalli is probably the worst of them when it comes to having no role. He doesn't even do anything. He's this arbiter of souls type, but loses to both characters he even attacks, and a 75% dead guy, Rashido and his (Pupil?) get away from him. He's literally pathetic. Ryu one shots him, that's such a major piss off as hyped as he was. I feel like story mode actually ruined some characters.
So basically, there sure as fuck better be season 2.
>>343877993
>Akuma
>Jobber
uhhhhhh
>>343877959
He plays almost identically. I think the only differences are that he doesn't have that cancellable medium kick at close range anymore and his head butt is now a charge motion + he jumps to do it but the tradeoff is that it can't be blocked.
>>343872529
You realize SF4 was fucking garbage until USF4 and what was almost 9 years of balance changes and tweeks right? Its been literally 5 months.
If it still has the same issues after a year or two knock yourself out, shit-blast it all day. But vanilla SF4 didn't get any decent fixes until almost 2 years.
>>343877957
Can Oro kill Gillfor good?
>>343877957
Oh yeah almost forget that oro is also gonna be a thing now. Season 2 better be SF3 featuring the world warriors and some alpha fuckersCan't wait to GENEI'JIN again
>>343877885
>balrog
I seriously hope you're not on PS4 and wasted 100k on that shit
>>343878020
>>Dolls
That was concluded, they got freed
>>Bison's 'death'
There was nothing wrong with this. We saw Nash weaken him and the Ryu blew him apart. He is as dead as the series can make him
>>Ed
He was mostly set up but I don't see anything wrong with what they did. We even know where his power comes from as he was an SIN experiment
>>Juri
She's always been a free agent and hates Shadowloo. So she did what she does
>Too many characters with involvement in the series seemingly have no role to fulfil
Cause a lot like Gief really don't have much to add
>. there's pretty important Bison related characters who don't even appear
Only Rose which can be pretty easily cleared up
>>343878203
The only thing he has ever done is killed his master off screen, all the rest he failed at and even gets beat by characters like Bison in alpha
>>343878343
>Putting Yun in 5
5 couldn't handle a gutted Yun. That's how weak the game is.
>>343878426
>bison
>the character who jobbs everyone in Alpha
Akuma kills Bison in 2 ya dingus
>>343878306
Not really. Gill also hasn't fought at 100% in the canon yet. He's always been holding back, trying to prove a point.
>>343864281
I'm pretty bad at fighting games and I got to super bronze pretty easily, only using Alex
>>343878343
>Instead its going to be even more callback characters from 4 instead
Calling it now, they won't let the old cast fade out for a reimagining of the new.
Sagat, C-viper, Abel, Honda, Rose, and Blanka are all going to come back. Rest will be 3s characters like Oro, sean and Makoto
Rose will have to die too if they want bison to be dead, bitch is literally the good essence of bison
>>343878490
>the character who jobbs everyone in Alpha
>Losing to a jobber
But at least he gets him back in 2! Oh wait he fails at it, again
When your massive killing move repeatedly fails you got an issue
>>343877936
>>343872323
God, this looks bad
Not only are you running this on a toaster, you got a shitty mod that looks bad
>>343877885
practice cancelling dash punch from jabs to get the timing. 2 jabs don't give you enough time to get charge, try standing hk into cr.mp.
Youtube is your friend, not this god awful site.
>>343878490
Akuma hasn't killed anyone they practically retconned most of them except gouken
>>343869258
when does this come out?
>>343878587
The good side could exist without the bad. I think Bison got his power from his master in the first place so trying to make sense of psycho power is pointless
>>343878538
>Sagat
too strong for NWO street fighter
>C.Viper
maybe
>Abel
almost confirmed
>Honda and Blanka
You can thank shitters for never seeing these two again
>Rose
Where the fuck was she in the story? For all we know, he's just going back to Rose's body like he always does. This was not the proper sendoff we all expected from him.
Bison is coming back. Mark my words
>>343878538
>>343878713
rose is some kind of female bison clone/reincarnation, right?
if they actually continue the storyline, i expect her to show up now that bisons old body is kaput
>bison created dolls in case of emergencies
>all of them are women
>even his good side is a woman
Does that mean bison just wants to be a little girl?
>>343878831
Rose is bison's good pscyho energy personified
>>343878831
>rose is some kind of female bison clone/reincarnation, right?
No
Rose is the personification of bisons "goodness" after he purged it from himself
>>343878831
>>343878713
I honestly doubt Bison will ever die. He's far too popular to axe forever.
I'm just worried that SFV is going to turn into SF4:V-trigger edition with returning characters. Series has to go forward in someways.
>>343854049
Came specifically for this.
>>343879000
>tfw he was a better commentator by 1000 miles than Chen or Ultra david.
>>343872323
She would look really hot in that outfit if it wasn't for the retarder Rita hair
>>343853020
>Nigga Alpha 3 and Third Strike are far better than 5 will ever be.
This
>>343878959
V ends with him dead and Gill apart to start shit. Even if they bring him back at some point it is all set that SF3 can take place now and then maybe Shadoloo returns in some way. They even had Sim hint at Alex's story and about how he needs to explore the world, which is what he ends up learning in NG
The series has moved forward and actually bridge the gap like 4 failed at, they could try and add a little bit extra in between that but it is very hard at this point without basically doing the same story again but in an even smaller time frame
>>343872323
This looks terrible, original looked much better.
>>343879242
I could accept the boob window, but the naked thigh window looks fucking retarded
>>343879193
But as of now it's impossible that Bison could have died for good. Bison has died multiple times and comes back every time.
There's no way in hell that a strong Hadouken could nullify Bison's psycho powers. It's not that Bison can come back from this. Bison HAS to return, or this whole story will turn into a complete joke. Bison was totally laughing because he knows he's coming back.
>>343878273
>implying
AE2012 was more balanced than SFV will ever be lad.
>>343879335
While AE 2012 is worse than 5, you're right in that a third of 5's roster isn't even viable for casual play.
>>343879335
That's retarded, senpai.
>>343879193
Until they actually do so its still treading in the past. They can mention moving forward all they want, however until they stop forcing returning characters over new ones it will never hit that point.
>>343873771
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighterMods/comments/4rb8db/urien_100_for_training_mode/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighterMods/comments/4rbg3n/juri_100/
>inb4 linking to reddit
>>343864281
Getting good in fightans ain't about winning. You should want to find players who beat you, cause only when you lose you can see what you did wrong, so you don't do it next time.
But first you gotta have enough knowledge so you can see through things and understand the reason behind the decision you or the opponent took.
Like if you see you keep eating a jump in, take the time to try to anti-air. Even if you lose the fight, your priority should be jabbing niggas everytime they jump on you.
>>343879332
>Bison has died multiple times
And he was "dead" in SF3. You can literally always say but they could bring him back, whatever happens you could say but they could. But he is as of now in a dead state and Gill is about to start doing his shit, the gap is bridged until they add something in between. This is all that it needs to be for SF3 to take place, it's not like in that game they introduced some new crazy concept that Bison will never come back after
>There's no way in hell that a strong Hadoken could nullify Bison's psycho powers
Nash showed his life power could nullify Abel going crazy with it, the new hadoken had the same life effect and even summoned those same butterflies. So yes it can
>>343879414
That's a backwards way of thinking. It's until they add more gaps that it no longer is bridged
>>343879193
>The series has moved forward and actually bridge the gap
Yeah, with a broken bridge perhaps.
Ryu conquers dark hadou off-screen
Necalli is literally nothing.
Nash revived for literally nothing. Actual weakening happened because of Rashit.
There's others like Alex/Urien/Helen/Gill but those could be fixed with a continuation of the story. They have to do it if they're gonna bring season 2 of dlcs. They wont. Even if they do the above cop-outs are never gonna be fixed.
Its really not that much better from any other story in SF history, people just chose to ignore everything because "muh cinematic experience".
>>343873771
You can use a trainer on her fight against Rashid to set infinite health and infinite timer. But don't ask me for links, I saw a guy mention it on LI Joe twitter.
>>343879409
Nice opinion senpai, can't wait for the Nash - Ryu EVO grandfinal.
>>343879490
Found them literally minutes ago.
I'm ready.
>>343879490
>Mfw lounging with friends
>I Select Urien
>Everyone quits because they're idiots and think Capcom will ban them.
>>343879604
M8, we're getting more story. As long as Bison eventually dies somewhere down the line in 5, it'll work.
Writing off Bison right now is pants on head retarded. Bison is the last character to just bend over and willingly accept permanently dying.
>>343879660
>N-Nash is OP!
>having a problem with Ryu
How does it feel being a shitter?
>>343879660
>Best players in the world play 2 characters
>Its the games balance at fault
>>343879660
>First Evo features top tier characters
WHAT? ANON, GET THE FUCK OUT!
First SF4 evo was almost entirely ryu and akuma. What a shit game right?
>>343879660
not him but yep I'm pretty sure it's gonna be infiltration/tokido as usual
>>343878713
wait how is abel almost confirmed
i really want to play abel
damn you can do so much fun shit with ibukis ex kunai. just gotta play patient in the neutral to get in and then start the relentless mixups
she is fun as hell
Any tips for switching character/playing a sub?
I'v ebeen playing Bison since the first beta and decided to try Balrog. Did some combos in training mode with boxer, hopped online, and dropped from Platinum to Gold in one day.
I win some games with Balrog, but after playing Bison it feels like uphill battle, and I have no idea what to do in some situations
>>343879767
he's right though.
Ryu, Ken, Chun, Nash, Cammy, Karin, and maaaaybe Guile are the only tournament viable characters.
>>343879893
Samefag, forgot Necalli.
Pretty much what all these characters have in common is that they have an invincible reversal. 5's wakeup game is the worst its ever been
>>343879748
>As long as Bison eventually dies somewhere down the line in 5, it'll work.
He is as dead as the character can be. Even if you saw his soul explode you could make up a dumb psycho power related reason to have it reformed. All that is needed is that every sees him as dead, he does appear to be dead and he is not actively doing anything that effects SF3.
Are you really saying that SF3 cannot take place going off just this story without an expansion cause Bison isn't dead enough?
>>343879767
Why would someone playing a shit game call others shitters? SFV is literally for disabled people that found other fighting games too hard and can't execute anything below 8 frames lmao
>>343879893
>Top 16 at CEO also had Laura, Necalli, Vega and motherfucking Zangief (aka THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME OH MY GOD)
Nah, it's fairly balanced.
What I don't get: You fags parade 3rd Strike around like the hottest of memes and that one literally had only 3 tournament viable characters. Yet one gets the love, while the other one gets shat on constantly. I wonder why that is.
I've been playing him exclusively for a few weeks now. Having a lot of fun with the parry.
>>343880150
>I wonder why that is.
Internet cred
>>343879978
No, I'm saying that there will eventually be a third expansion that will put a proper end to Bison's story.
Bison's death is by far the most important thing to happen during the gap between SF4 and SF3. We have to be absolutely sure that Bison is gone for good.
>>343880047
If anything, you're the casual for being unable to deal with 8 frames delay. :^)
>>343878538
what are the odds of newcomers? Azam seems like a cool concept for some sort of wind-using grappler and ed would be pretty cool, too.
>>343850829
>boohoo this game sucks because my precious alpha cuck can't win it without a braindead greenhand-red focus option select
Snake became a fucking joke. All he does is bitch and moan and skip tournaments because he can't handle not getting top 8 even once.
>>343880150
>using an NA tournament as an example
>>343880219
>smash my face at my buttons
There I executed a 50% dmg combo in SFV. :^)
>>343880150
>I wonder why that is.
people who never played 3s started praising it as the second coming of christ simply because they think if they talk about 3s then people won't assume they're 09ers or 16ers.
it's a weird way of trying to hide the fact that they're super insecure about being relatively new to fighting games
>>343880260
you do realize all the asian killers were at ceo right?
>>343880150
Many of the best players in japan and east asia went to europe and brazil to qualify for capcom cup. CEO is a bad example.
Asia's meta is literally divekicks and shotos
>>343880260
>Dreamhack Sweden had a Necalli vs. Mika final
>>343880326
You must either be Infiltration or Tokido then.
Oh wait a minute, you're just a shitter who doesn't know a thing. :^)
>>343880150
The scene in NA never scratched the surface of top 3S play. In Japan tourneys have plenty character variety.
I bet people still take Gootecks opinion that nobody played Alex for granted, just because he edited a few clips back in the day. The guy is an idiot, and an absolute imbecile when it comes to fighting games.
>>343880382
when i think fighting games sweeden is #3 behind Japan and USA
>>343880375
Yes, that's why any above average asian player can pick a random character and make top16 famalam.
>>343851763
>>worse wakeup game than 4. No reversal? Guess what, your main is trash and you should drop it
Now I completely agree that SFV is trash from a gameplay standpoint but
Those poor poor low tier Nash players :(
>>343846250
ok it's on, will you be at EVO ?
>>343880218
So you are saying they need to resurrect him again, just to kill him again but a different completely unspecified way? And what's to say he can't come back after that?
Kill Rose, all dolls, Abel, Ed, etc. Get a gun labelled this kills Bison for reals and shoot him with it soul exploding and destroying. Do all of that and you can just as easily justify bring him back as before, some used psycho power to bring him back, he was so evil he came back from the void, they recreated him with data found in an old base etc. Bison's life is bullshit and you can literally always justify it
As of now everyone sees him as dead. He has completely lost Shadoloo and we actually see that happen this time including his generals. Why is that not good enough for SF3 to take place?
>>343880501
You said "hurr durr NA tournaments XD" and I gave you a non-NA tournament. What's the problem here?
>>343880579
I'm not him though.
>>343880616
Why were you replying then like an attention whore?
>>343880643
It's not even like Nash is in a bad position if he gets knocked down anyway
He can literally just V-reversal and the only way the attacking player can stop it is if he tried to throw BEFORE NASH EVEN DID THE V-REVERSAL
It is busted as fuck and absolutely idiotic
>>343880563
Because it was the most anti-climatic way to go while he just stood there and took it. It's completely out of character and doesn't make any sense
>>343880724
Meaty beats it.
>>343880790
No it does not
Post your season 2:
This is a probable season 2, not a wishlist:
Akuma
Sakura
Sagat
C. Viper
Decapre
Oro (without dick)
I really want to try Oro, and I might try 3S, as all 3S characters that didn't show up on 4 are pretty much 1:1 on 5.
>>343880790
It doesn't, it's only hitable by throw but he's out of there too fast for a throw to actually hit him provided you input the throw after the V-reversal is input
>>343879893
you forgot about Ibuki
>>343880838
You're serious now right? You really don't know?
Reminder that this is the tier list as agreed on by most Asian i.e. good players.
Ryu
Nash
Chun
Necalli
Ken
Karin
Cammy
Mika
Vega
everyone else is ass for actual competition
>>343880912
Are you thinking of V-trigger?
>>343880753
>anti-climatic
Saying you dislike how it ended doesn't change what has happened, even if you hold that opinion that doesn't change that storywise it works. There is no reason SF3 can't take place now as all the pieces are in the right position to do so. Chun even found the girl we see her training in 3S who looks about the same age as she does there
>>343880857
Yun
Sakura
Akuma
C. Viper
Abel
Cody
>>343880753
He was even laughing like
>Bitch I'm the Motherfucking Bison
>yes the M stands for Motherfucking
How is he ded. I would be suprised if he posseses Ed or comes back as blue berry bison with hado power
>>343879859
You probably don't know any setups. Balrog is one of the characters where you have to learn them setups. Once people learn to block your overhead, setups are your only way in. I'd recommend checking out PRBalrog's stream. He has been figuring out new shit every day.
>>343880961
I still don't really understand how Ryu is meant to be better than Nash and Chun
I will say I'm a Ryu main, but I really can't see what Ryu has to give him an advantage in those matchups. He can't use his hakoken's against Nash without basically doing nothing but giving him V-gauge and he has much worse normals/dashes in general compared to those two.
It does genuinely puzzle me.
>>343852515
If you hate the game you must be from another fanbase or bad at the game, there cant be other reasons!!!!
GIT GUD XDDD
>>343881098
He's a shoto with high damage and an invincible reversal that doesn't require meter. If that wasn't enough, people are beginning to properly use Ryu's ace in the hole.His parry
>>343880857
I think you'll get more than 6 characters
I also think at least one Final Fight character is very likely
Also Abel given his prominence in story mode
>>343880753
His body was already reaching its end (white hair) and he needed FANG to enact operation chains for him to boost his power level. I'm assuming he caused all that shit so that he could draw out Ryu (the strongest fighter) so that he could defeat him and finally take his body. When he realizes Ryu is too strong he realized how foolish he was and started laughing because he's fucking Bison.
I agree it wasn't explained very well though.
>>343881098
His fucking damage is of the charts man. Charlie and Chun need to put in more work to achieve his shit also invincible reversal
>>343881220
Most things his parry is good for is achieved by any invincible move anyway
As I said, he does have those things if you look at them in a vaccum but I don't see how they prevent him being at a constant disadvantage in neutral against those characters, which is a pretty big deal. It's also not like whiffing a reversal doesn't get you completely fucked in SFV with crush counters.
Damage is nice but I don't think it makes up for being forced to play Nash/Chun's game every match which I think you can see very well in Tokido/Infiltration games, where it's pretty obvious Infiltration is at an advantage and the one controlling the pace of the game pretty much all the time.
>>343881001
What would be a more appropriate thing for him to do? He's an evil crazy guy, going for the NOOOOOOOO just makes him seem like a bitch. I think it is much better to see him laugh
>>343880906
>no reversal
Into the fucking trash it goes
>>343880968
Was it ever explained why Bison didnt exist anymore in the 3S timeline?
I mean the guy is basically immortal.
>>343881279
>Charlie needs to put in more work
oh no pressure! time to v-reversal out, phew! :^)
>>343880489
>The guy is an idiot, and an absolute imbecile when it comes to fighting games.
If it weren't for MEME CULTURE and their stupid youtube show, Mike and Gootecks would be fucking nobodies right now. Mike may as well be a fucking nobody since he's the biggest shill and esports dickrider to ever exist.
>>343881007
I have some day one meaties (which I usually time wrong), but nothing strong.
Thanks, I'll check PRBalrog's stream.
>>343881417
A speech would be more appropriate like
>so this is how it ends
or
I dunno aknowledge he finally lost
>>343880961
Cammy needs her cr hp to do CC- she'd be much better. I think she's the only character with one crush counter.needs some of her original links and spiral arrow needs to be low again
>>343881503
Nope, I think the only real mention it ever got was Chun-li's reason for retiring was Bison was dead and the Illuminati were messing with them anyway. Seeing as she sees it happen and then looks back to just see a cap he's dead as far as Chun knows
>>343881635
>aknowledge he finally lost
That would be worse, Bison doesn't do that kind of shit he is overconfident. Same with the speech, he wouldn't admit anyone is better. It'd be like Urien admitting someone is better than him
>>343881589
He placed 4th at that one EVO so he cant be too bad.
So... Does anyone play this game
>>343881774
>Nope, I think the only real mention it ever got was Chun-li's reason for retiring was Bison was dead and the Illuminati were messing with them anyway. Seeing as she sees it happen and then looks back to just see a cap he's dead as far as Chun knows
Yeah because its kind of strange.
Even Akuma couldnt really kill bison off.
And ryu suddenly suceeded in deleting his existence?
Doesnt really make sense.
>>343881774
Accept your fate isn't lack of confidence, but yeah i see your point. I still find his "death" a bit weird
>invite friend to lobby
>they pick gief
I want to play real sets not hold upback and 5-0 you everytime
>>343882005
>hold upback
But Gief has options againt people who do it.
>>343881416
Ryu can kill anyone with 4 shoryukens and 3 sweeps.
His dash is 16 frames, faster than Nash's, his sweep is 7 frames, he has a retarded 3f jab as an anti-air, besides shoryuken and parry. Ryu is pretty much a walking wall that can be anywhere he wants to be. He has retarded pressure on the corner, and if his basich c.hp hp shoryuken ain't enough, he will always have super in stock, since he doesn't need meter for anything.
Ryu and Ken are the only characters deserving a nerf. They both does way too much damage for the effort it takes to get in and to do the combos and should have their damage toned down a bit, and Ryu doesn't deserve a meterless reversal. Also, Chun's s.lk and Necalli's s.lp should be tweaked.
>>343881951
>And ryu suddenly suceeded in deleting his existence?
Cause he got that special powered hadoken similar to how Nash could stop Abel's psycho power. They both seem to have some kind of "life power" and summon that same blue butterfly, which someone in a thread said is a symbol for change or something in Japan
It should also be the same power the Gouken used to survive the satsui no hado cause Ryu can do denjin stuff now and in SF3
>>343882072
And punishing anything with an SPD isn't one of them.
Gief got gutted
>Bison supposedly dies for good
>Rose has nothing to do with it
Bullshit. He's not dead
>>343882072
He has an air throw with shitty range unless you use a bar that gives him no setup after use and leaves him wide open to the biggest punish possible if he reads wrong on it. After that punish Gief will be knocked down which means he has literally 0 options the rest of the fight and can only win if his opponent is a retard.
>>343882146
but ryu's an honest character he fights fair he's balanced
>>343881774
>his cap
And this is Bison's story costume, which was nowhere to be seen.
Maybe Necalli will try to eat Bison like he did with Nash at the beggining as a near death experience, and will get his body.
>It's a mike ross thinks he's better then floe episode
>>343882005
that zangief perfectly describes me.
He's the only character that I really enjoy playing.
Also I'm even worse on any other character.
>>343882316
>No Shin Bison
Shit, I completely forgot about that.
>tfw you can basically play Pong in a Urien mirror match using Aegis Reflectors and Metallic Sphere
>>343882316
They also said Beard Ryu would factor in, seem just like a dropped concept
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/18/ryus-beard-will-factor-street-fighter-5s-story-more-characters-might-be-getting-facial-hair/
Plus he had a similar outfit in IV
>>343882287
>>343882316
>season 2 comes with another story moe
>mostly focuses on rise of the Gill and Illuminati etc
>Bison comes back in his story mode costume with some Necallie powers
>soul gets munched
>Bison ded, get 1 shot by Gill
>>343882136
>>343881291
>>343881437
Don't be this retarded Ibuki is an alright character.
>>343881950
WOOW I WAS BLOCKING
>>343882310
He sure is
>>343882631
>That unimpressive damage
>>343882420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVnq98JcGhg
>>343882505
The problem isn't with Ibuki herself. Blame SFV's shitty wakeup game.
>4 out of the 6 DLC characters are charge based
I'm mainly a charge player but come on now.
>>343882306
>After that punish Gief will be knocked down which means he has literally 0 options
How is that different from Bison or Balrog?
But against Bison you can simply hold down-back. Against Gief every blocked jab is a guessing game.
>>343882505
>getting wins against constant shoryuKEN spam because they don't know Ibuki is a monster in the right hands
People bitching about Ibuki are scrubs
>>343853202
Better than V 2bh
Goddamn I don't like any of the Alpha games but they're more enjoyable than that piece of shit V.
>>343882754
It's not. Both of those characters are not competitively viable.
>>343882631
>Urien's electrical sparks are blue on the body instead of yellow
It's the subtle differences that I notice.
>>343882679
>>you will be able to see some of the dlc characters in story mode and play them before they are finished
>>343882631
>>343882420
oops, wrong one
>>343882830
But every time someone complains about SFV balance, it's always "Zangief is Z-tier", "Gief is wors" and so on.
Meanwhile Bison and Balrog have same issues AND they also get raped by any grappler. Laura or Mika is probably worst matchup for Bison desu.
>>343882746
To be fair.
Only 3 characters in the main game are charge.
Chun Bison and Fang
Nekalli us a hybrid has one of evry possible input other than 360 and down up charge.
>>343875206
He looks hideous, he was actually cool in SF3. In SF5 he's some dog/gorilla hybrid.
>>343882746
There were 2 charge characters along with chun who has both(while Necalli has 1 charge move) on release.
The game needed more charge characters after Nash and Vega got turned into motion characters.
>>343882929
kek
>>343851763
>No fucking proximity normals.
>No chip kills.
>Easy links.
>No individual stages for all characters.
Even KI is doing this. I can't support this shit from Capcom. It's amazing how many scrubs are trying to convince themselves that the scrubbiest SF is history is the most hardcore. Game looks pretty on some levels, but they can still fuck off.
>>343880246
gief is considered by many to be the worst character in the game.
even fucking fang and laura do better.
>>343883079
>No chip kills.
What did he mean by this?
I get chip kills pretty often in SFV.
>>343882310
Let me draw something for you.
The top ones are examples of a balanced character. The bottom one is Ryu's balance. You can see he is well-rounded, but he is better than most on every aspect.
>>343883158
Doesn't chip only kill if its a CA or EX?
>>343882754
Bison is also bad but can at least stack blockstrings and maybe eventually land a hit or throw and start his godlike pressure. Gief has a cr. jab for 20 dmg and nothing else. Eat the jab hold up back until they start kicking after the jabs and then just crouch and punish since his kick whiffs on crouchers, after the punish you win
>>343883120
Dude stop making excuses. In online tier lists don't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCEk1c6RLxE
>>343882953
They don't just get raped by any grappler. Bison, Balrog, and Gief get raped by EVERYTHING. The same goes for Laura and Mika, but Mika plays like a 4th gen vortex character, so she is somewhat viable.
SFV has atrocious character balance
>>343882539
He started blocking, then realized Alex fully charged VT is unblockable, tried to jump, but the other guy didn't fully charged, and caught his pre-jump frames.
>>343883209
Only supers can chip KO.
>>343883265
Damage output in this game is the real enemy of SFV
>>343881950
Can Urien save him?
>>343883209
No EX, just CA.
But landing few blocked moves, and then doing st.HP xx inferno xx VT, st.HP xx inferno xx CA does huge chip damage with Bison off true blockstring. Balrog does even more.
Don't do it if they have V-Reversal and working brain though.
>>343883257
Snake isn't trying to be an online warrior he's trying to win tourneys which Zangief is 100% incapable of doing
>>343883257
daigo losing 1 set to a character online doesnt mean the character is good
>>343883226
>since his kick whiffs on crouchers
Which one? Jumping knee or anti-air kick?
>>343881950
Gotecks is a good player though, and desu he doesn't have a normal job so his lessons are another source of income for him.
Plus he has to get people like kbrad or jwong to also participate in teaching and money is an incentive
>>343883437
He's also playing much worse than other Giefs, Stupendous has been doing when better
>>343883392
It has nothing to do with damage output.
The problem is that a simple knockdown spells doom for more than half the cast because there aren't enough options to get out of an oki.
When you see players grabbing people 3 times in a row on wakeup, there's a huge problem.
post ibuki fun stuff
>>343883480
He got perfected twice. Hold the L and stop making excuses.
>>343880150
>balance = good
not really muh man
>>343883603
Speaking of my new main what are some good combos for her?
>>343882892
An ambiguous mixup like that is not going to have huge damage, if anything it'll have less.
>>343883518
>good player
He really isn't. Has he broken out of pools in a premier this year?
>>343883257
Every character can win with 3 or 4 right choices after knocking down the opponent. The problem is starting it with Gief.
>>343883558
There's nothing wrong with being thrown 3 times on wakeup.
The biggest issue with oki in 5 is how many more options the top tiers have compared to the rest of the cast.
SF4 had the same problem.
>>343853872
https://www.change.org/p/yoshinori-ono-capcom-give-juri-an-alternate-color-reverting-the-changes-done-to-her-default-outfit-in-sfv?recruiter=34108446&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
>>343883659
lp mp hp
>>343883518
>Gotecks is a good player though
wew lad
>>343883518
Let's be honest here. The 100 dollar lessons aren't due to him supposedly still being a good player; it's because he's FGC-famous and talks a good game. That's it. Just like Aris, Tom Brady. and the rest of those fuckers who haven't won anything since the second FGC explosion of '08. Their dickriders provide sustenance, not their skill.
>>343883485
st. roundhouse. The jumping knee is godawful it has a bad hitbox that only catches neutral jumps from pointblank and has a massive hurtbox
>>343883709
Only when playing Mika
>>343883659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1SoQqxSi-4
>748 points last night to 440 today
mfw I'll never get out of bronze
>>343883827
Last I checked woolie was like super bronze online will he do good at EVO?
>>343883748
>there is nothing wrong with triple grab
That's literally the most degenerate part of SFV. Do not defend this crap.
Backdash is worse and delayed wakeup are gone from 5.
>>343883867
watch your replays
assess your problems
work on them in training mode or in endless lobbies
>>343883867
Just keep at it. I'm getting to platinum consistently, only to be thrown back to gold by gatekeepers there. Eventually you get better and go past that.
>>343883896
About as well as Gootecks.
Dude's fucking terrible.
>>343883867
I can't get out of rookie :3
>>343883864
Her costume is awful.
>>343883659
st.mp > st.lk is your go to. You can cance l st.lk into lk/mk command dash when you dropped a bomb to mix them up. The only way to make lp.mp.hp safe is kunai which is limited. Ideally the 6 kunai you get is all you should be using in the round, don't waste them because refilling is bad.
>>343883867
do more casual matches online or play with friends that's where I try dumb things or try to learn combos because i'm not pressured to win.
>>343883949
I watched some of them and I really abuse Ryu's sweep like crazy even knowing that its unsafe. Its a bad habit that I need to fix.
>>343883920
When has triple grab ever not been a thing?
>>343863528
it felt so good to get to Silver with my man gief
>>343883920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZxwgDzZsY
>>343884078
you will probably need to keep losing because of it many more times before your brain kicks the habit. if it's something you've muscle memory'd in it will need to be beaten into the ground before being removed.
just how it is. fighting games are ruthless, but once you're good it's a godly feeling. if you can try to buck the habit now of course try to, but in my efforts to get better i found it was a lot harder than telling myself not to do it.
>>343884079
Some games allow you to punish whiffed grabs from neutral jump and the usefulness of wakeup backdash in IV meant it wasn't seen very often.
>>343880857
Decapre (charge character still)
Oro (with dick)
Rose
Oro is a lot of fun in 3S, i hope they keep him faithful with all his juggles and air mobility.
Tengu as V-Trigger and Yagyou as Critical art would be great.
>>343884138
>jabs in between wakeup and grab
Not nearly as bad, but let's be real here. That's the best Dudley in the world vs LowTierGod. Not Tokido and Nash throwing each other to death on wakeup.
>Chariot tackle doesn't juggle anymore
Lame
Apart from that Urien is the most fun character in SFV
>>343884307
Infil's 6 throws on Tokido was just a one time mind fuck and everyone eats wakeup throw on Ryu because he can use any button he has meaty for easy 300+ damage
>>343884491
but it does? Try using HK Chariot Tackle
>>343884532
that was a fluke though
>>343884491
>Least gutted character is the most fun
I'm honestly surprised his Aegis shenanigans are still decent.
If they continue with this type of design in S2 and maybe rework some of the other characters then you might end up with a decent game in a year.
>>343884491
SFV Urien is going to be a lot more about reset into (armored) mixups than unblockables and juggles. His juggling ability is probably still one of the best in the game.
>>343884491
>it doesn't juggle anymore
but that's false
![tumblr_inline_o8019bP9vi1s0zok9_250[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u1euglB.jpg "tumblr inline o8019bP9vi1s0zok9 250[1]")
>>343880857
Sakura
Dudley
Oro
Decapre
C.Viper
Ed(pic related The kid who hangs around Balrog. He's a Psycho power 360 Grappler)
This is S2.
You will not believe me, but it is.
>>343884694
>>343884594
It knocks down it doesn't juggle.
>>343883616
doesnt change what i said
>>343884862
ah you meant it doesn't continue the juggle. Sorry I thought you meant you couldn't juggle into the tackle.
>>343883864
Anyone who bought that premium costume needs to be shot
baka Crapcum
some reset stuff
use this sparingly and after the air tc you should do a mk dash because people tend to mash throw. if you press st mk immediately after the dash you will hit them and can get into the mk tc and do other mixup/reset stuff. throwing a kunai during the command jump after the mk tc is also really good to catch people mashing buttons.
combine this with mk dash throughs during regular gameplay and u will confuse tons of people. dash through is especially helpful for balrog because he loses his charge for dash punch or whatever it is called
these are very basic and good people won't really fall for them, so u need to switch it up and betray expectations
sfv is one of my favourite sf games and I think by the last version it being the best will be hard to argue against
>>343881220
he has high damage, but he relies a lot on spacing to do his high damaging combos, you will only ever get hit by it if you fuck it up.
>>343885097
FUCK, i am mad ai this bitch already only by watching this.
>>343884817
Did they fug?
lk and mk dash will not cross under in the corner. use the command jump if u wanna cross up in the corner or just use this to confuse people who dont know this lol
>>343885262
doesnt even look that bad. just block and v reversal
>>343885274
i hope this doesnt become a meme...
>>343885106
i played a bit of super turbo, alpha and 3s with friends before the launch of SFVon fightcade, and it is hard going back to theses games after SFV.
>>343885368
shes all over the place. Thats whats annoying me.
>>343885437
>>343885274
I want to sniff Ed's psycho power scented armpits.
Online still den't work for me.
>>343885437
I never imagined Rog to be a bottom..
>>343886138
Ed is Bison's replacement body. It's natural that rog would want to submit to his old boss.Also he watches cuck porn.
>>343886081
I'm a scrub but now it plays fine for me. Before the last update I was getting matched with gold and even platinum, when I'm a bronze shitter. Now I'm only getting other bronze shitters.I kinda miss playing stronger people, though. It was probably a borefest to them but I think I learned a little bit more.
this hits meaty
>>343879803
He appeared more than any other non-playable character in the Story.
>>343886586
Damnit she looks cool in that outfit.
>>343886697
Her main costume is actually her best.
If Sonicfox focused on SFV for a year, do you think he would consistently place among the japanese players?
>>343886813
For sure all her Alts are shit.
how come that they can't make a decent costume for her.
>>343886867No.He'd get closer, though.
>>343886867
No, he seems to have put a lot of work in and still struggles against american players. if he put all his effort in he'd be as good as top american ones are now but he'll be outpaced
>>343886867
I fucking hate that furfaggot.
>>343877959
They took his DDT and sleeperhold.
>>343883120
How come a literal nobody can do much better than Snake Eyez on his first premier tournament attendance? It took Daigo and then Onuki to stop Stupendous's "harmless" Zangief, and he was one of the highest ranking Americans in CEO.
Snake Eyez was acting as if he had drawn the full potential of the character before "dropping him" (which was also a half assed commitment as he still uses his now half-baked Zangief during tournaments). Meanwhile Stupendous learned to use meaty v-triggers to get guaranteed tandem effect on people for a free-mix up after any knock-down, even jab SPD, while Snake would often waste his whole v-trigger by randomly activating trying to punish buttons.
Snake Eyez is a has-been at this point, and if he had spend half of the time he did traveling for PR purposes and bitching and moaning, he could have easily gotten to top 8s and even won some majors, as shown by other "random" Giefs like Infexious and Stupendous, who keep showing more and more potential on the character.
>>343887159
>nice guy
>great player
>plays multiple games
>can actually back up his talk
What's there to hate?
>>343886867
Why would he? He can only play infinite juggle combo western shitfests.
Counter Hit setup into mk tc
I want to live in the world that ibuki combo makers live where she actually have 6 kunai, full meter and vtrigger because otherwise her damage is garbage
>>343887168
as much as I loved his DDT that move was not worth the effort to land.
Why the fuck did they remove the tracking on his EX stomp though, I get removing the cross up.
>>343877959
Do not listen to these people he plays nothing alike.
Key difference being that backdrop is no longer a link, cr.mp can't be cancelled, cr.lk can't be cancelled, stomp can't hit airborne, stomp can't crossup, DDT is replaced with a shitty down > up charge command grab which basically serves the same purpose but is way more telegraphed, EX stomp and EX charge grab don't track and have to be aimed for some reason, he has less juggle potential and in general he's a lot slower.
>>343887268
Except he's a top player in UNIEL too, which is the exact opposite of what you just said.
>>343887248
>can actually back up his talk
Didn't he tweet about how good he'd do in sfv against top players and then get one top 8 in the early months?
Plus I can't stand how much commentators dick suck him
>>343887353
>>343885345
>>343885097
>>343885262
>>343886586
Never played Street Fighter, so i have question:
Doesn't something like a combo breaker exist?
I mean you can just go though the game stunt-locking people like this?
>>343887207
*practicing, had he spend more time practicing.
Have you ever heard of Snake having strong sparring partners at all? It feels like all he does is some half-assed lab work and then go online for practice.
>>343877959
He's arguably much better except no more headstomp memeing. Can actually do shit off lights, armored ex elbow, forward+hp lariat is amazing combo/mixup tool.
Even with all that and more he's still kind of low-tier.
>>343887603
Getting Top 8 at your first event, especially one as stacked as that is far from a small feat. After that the MK circut thing was announced so he stopped focusing on SFV.
>>343887612
there is a v reversal which u can use while blocking. the thing is that you ned to press into the direction of your enemy, so during a mixup you can screw the direction up so generally people v reversal at the very start of combos which u can then abuse to throw them out of it.
but all of these combos are of course just potentially there. first u need to play a patient neutral game to get the chance to even use them
>>343887612
She's constantly resetting.
It's not a real combo.
>>343887207
This, Snake's play has been really disappointing. You can just tell especially if he tries Alex that there is very little effort being put into a match and he isn't thinking plans through
>>343887612
Never post something this stupid again.
>people doing resets that lose 100% of the time to delayed tech
>>343887585
Is Chuns costume a mod or an actual costume?
>>343887701
>, especially one as stacked as that is far from a small feat.
Getting top 8 when people are unfamiliar with the game and no Japanese presence is a small feat. Especially with no follow up
And he hasn't stopped playing or talking shit on twitter. If he was as good as people hype him up to be he should be able to get results in both games
>>343886405
No, it doesn't work at all, it never find anyone no matter how long i wait. SF 4 worked perfectly but this, it terrible form the start and literally unplayable.
>>343887793
It's her luxury costume modded in
>>343877398
Here's your (you), anon. Months now and you think people still care.
>>343887612
You actually have to put in work to get a combo like that started in sf
>>343887790
You can just adjust to a more simple meaty/throw mixup.
With time flawless vortex will be achieved, just like in Ultra, even now there's been quickrise/back tech setups discovered.
>>343887878
>no Japanese presence
Except there was.
> Especially with no follow up
Because he had no reason to do it when he had both college and MK to focus on.
>And he hasn't stopped playing or talking shit on twitter
Other people hype him up in SFV still, not him.
>>343887734
Yes, his Alex pick during his final game at CEO showed that he didn't even had developed a working game plan for his "new main" and it was just like everything else regarding him in SFV, half-assed. Raw talent can only take him so far. Now LPN sports a much stronger Alex, Stupendous a much stronger Zangief, and about anyone has a stronger Ryu.
>>343887992
Guess who can also do a looping simple meaty/throw mixup
half the characters in the game, and most of them can do damage without using all of their meter
>>343886867
Is he still trying Mika?
>>343888181
Last I heard from him he's doing Ibuki, since she plays the most like characters he use in other games.
>>343888167
Nice job missing the point.
>>343888265
No, I know the point. It's just easy to get out of the "vortex", especially with vreversal and she does booty buttcheeks damage when she actually gets it
>>343887913
i meant to ask if it was created by a modder.
>>343888181
No. He gave up.
https://twitter.com/SonicFox5000/status/749808755920007168
I wish this game had never released, and that capcom just kept updating SF4 instead.
>>343888039
Sorry, I'm not the dude you're replying to, but Fox has no chance against the big dogs in SFV as it stands right now and he knows it himself, which is why he's going where the easy money is instead.
>>343887790
ibukis air tc does not lead to a knockdown so there is no delayed wakeup for you
>>343888387
I wish Laura was my sister
>>343887519
Have you never played 3S Alex?
backdrop no longer a link isn't a big deal unless you prefer that extra bit of execution.
cr.mp was never cancellable.
cr.lk was only comboed into super but can now link into st.jab.
DDT was just as shit.
The game in general has less juggle potential.
No tracking on stomp and headbutt is retarded though.
>>343888340
Except you're not out yet, she's still applying her pressure, a dangerous thing in a game oft described as turn based.
>>343851763
Lifetime SF fanboy, reporting.
>Tfw I can't prove you wrong
This is literally the first Street Fighter I've completely dropped. I... I just can't find anything redeeming about it... Feels fuckingawfulman
>>343888387
Or a better SFV?
>>343888581
same with mk tc and when she hits you with b mp after ex kunai. if she wants she'll never knock you down while still mixing/resetting u up
birdies slot should have been el fuerte
>>343888387
LMAO
After 2015 Capcup, I never wanted to watch another SFIV event ever again, let alone playing it.
The game had nowhere to go but down, and it was already hitting rock bottom, if people really liked it, they would have kept supporting it like UMVC3, but instead, USFIV became a ghost town instantly.
>>343888387
If they basically remade SF4 with SFV models I agree. SF4 was great but it was a breath of fresh air seeing updated graphics. They can keep using SF4 Ken though.
>>343887534
no he isn't lol, he's barely in the top 10-15 in the us and literally only plays when any of the other, better players aren't in the tournament
>>343888603
Tech or vreversal = no pressure anymore
>>343888598
Linkable backdrop was a much more viable confirm and could work of mp chop.
DDT was just as shit but at least you didn't need to use charge buffering shenanigans to actually do something with it and you didn't jump 20 miles into the air.
Cr.lk cancelling was still useful for flash chop traps and DDTs.
Yeah less juggle potential in general means he's gonna play a lot different.
Also, no IOH.
Problems with this game are stubby normals and 8f delay. This kills the neutral and makes the game too offensive focus. These ARE things that can be fixed by Capcom, and they've acknowledged that. The problem is, they won't change shit until CPT for obvious reasons, and they might not change it even then.
>>343888683
That is nice and all but she needs to do damage to actually matter
>>343887085
Seems to me he only loses to certain top level players in the American scene - this is with F.A.N.G and only like half a year of playing?
I think he might switch to 'buki, so I think another six months with a more Sonicfox character would give him that much success.Americans body Japanese DOA players
>>343864281
Find someone to play lobby with you. Maybe someone high above your skill level, ask him what you did wrong and start bug fixing
>>343888849
Oh and no b.hp grab.
>>343888624
>I...I just cant....
maybe you should kill yourself, do the world a favor. Who the fuck stutters in text format.
>>343888937
(you)
>>343888883
The only time I remember him doing well was at FR19, and wasn't everyone pointing out he had an easy ride up their until getting bodied by nips? Has he done anything since?
Xian has done well with Fang, Sonicfox has just kinda floundered
>>343888768
Because capcom pretty much dictates which street fighter is competitive.
Third strike and Ultra aren't allowed to get anything more than side events.
>>343888849
Not him but
>DDT was just as shit but at least you didn't need to use charge buffering shenanigans
And unlike DDT they are actually useful, no one would ever use DDT while you see stun gun used a fair amount
>>343889006
Got triggered by the truth? Autistic fuck. Fighting games require you to be sociable, not a loser who stutters in text, I can only imagine how irritating it must be to speak with you in person. I bet you have an extremely punchable face as well.
this cc combo does more damage than simple raida or kazegiri
>>343888849
I think b.hp command grab was part of the few moves that couldn't be parried like ibuki's neckbreaker/raida and oro's command grab. Technically it's his jumping headbutt now but would have rather seen it as a throw.
>>343889161
They can't actually stop events running it, and players still have the choice of what to play. Hell they could play both but most don't
>>343889223 (you)
>>343887612
You should just burn yourself.
I want to get back into SFV but I know I'll instantly stop having fun the second I play it. Dammit why does this game get me so fucking salty?
Ibuki looks cool too but my execution and dexterity is pure shit so thats another hurdle ill have to get over too.
>>343889267
And takes you back to neutral as well, nice going, a lot of people value some extra damage above positioning and okizeme because it is the right thing to do. Keep it up.
>>343889292
But there's no incentive to play them because there's no prize pool in comparison.
It's like how all the top LoL players like DotA2 more, but League offers more cash.
>>343889292
because capcom funnels money into it
when capcom goes bankrupt the FGC goes straight back to the dark ages except now they dont even have arcades
>>343889523
even lp raida does more dmage than simply going into raida or kazigiri and allows for follow up pressure. but yeah you can use the cc to go into a reset to with just crossing under. it's loads of fun because u can do so many things
>>343889223 (you)
>>343889731 (you)
>>343889223 (you)
>>343889654
Melty Blood tourney's were held in parking lots and hotel room hallways. We've always been the cockroaches of the gaming communities.
>>343889074
No wait I remember. He actually did really well in pools. but Momochi beat him out before he got to top 32 - a pretty convincing 2-0
Xian does well with F.A.G too, but it seems he cant really turn them into results like his Gen was doing. I think the character needs a buff. Until he does, I guess Sonic is gonna play 'buki - considering her bs already found in the game, he'll probably do well if he doesn't get the unfortunate circumstance of fighting anymore top level Japs until top 8.
Also
>Easy ride till nips
Damn this community sucks, people act like everyone else wasn't either. How desperate are they to make the guy look bad?
>>343889613
>It's like how all the top LoL players like DotA2 more, but League offers more cash.
Isn't that just what fans of the other product say with no back up? Never mind most people playing know for a fact they have no chance of ever getting top 8 and thus no money. Do you really think that even half of the 5000 entered at evo think they have a chance?
>>343889654
Capcom is not the only sponsor
>>343889731
>>343889812
>>343889382
>>343889006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0dLHa3eqOM
Thanks for reminding me.
>>343889857
they do actually because the game is so trash they picked ryu and help up+forward medium kick to gold and now they all think they're the american daigo
>>343889941
Kek
>>343889857
But it's true. Players have admitted to practicing on DotA2 because it takes a lot more skill to play while not being a chore to enjoy.
They only play league for LSC money
probably a better version of the cc because it allows for follow up pressure.
>>343889857
>Isn't that just what fans of the other product say with no back up?
Of course. Dota players are the most insecure shitposters.
>>343889851
>people act like everyone else wasn't either.
They didn't, players like Justin had to face a load of Japanese players before top 8 and missed out because of it. It isn't unreasonable that a player can get an easy ride up, and as you point out when he went against Momochi it all goes to shit
If Sonicfox is as much of an amazing player as people hype him up to be the results should be their in SFV but they aren't. This is a guy known for playing multiple games, so the juggling this and MK excuse doesn't work. He needs to actually prove himself in SF and one tournament doesn't do that
>>343889830
Sure but the underlying goal is to keep the community flourishing and the japanese doesnt even have SFV arcades yet so its basically on life support over there
>>343889857
Yes let's totally assume that the 500p entrant count has nothing to do with SFV being the only street fighter and mainstream fighting game(melee pls) out right now that's still going off launch hype.
There is nothing else to play this year
>>343890206
Japan will have to catch up with the rest of the world and start organizing actual locals, Arcades are dying over there too.
KoF wont have an arcade release either.
Or they will just pussy out and just drop the genre fully.
>>343883616
You're stupid and you need to stop.
>>343890245
>There is nothing else to play this year
MKX got an update
KI got an update and port (and has seomthing silly like 6 million downloads)
GG got an update
And Pokken came out over here this year (what is more mainstream than pokemon)
Pretty much every game has something going on
>still going off launch hype.
It's been 6 months and still going strong
>>343890328
the latter seems more probable considering consoles are dying too and they only use pcs for porn
street fighter on ios when
>>343890518
SF4 is on ios.
>>343890518
You joke but injustice on iso earned a stupid amount. Explains gear really
>>343890490
6 months are nothing
SC2 held on for 2 years before crashing its own scene, korean brood war aka the most established esport in history and every potential RTS scene for years forward
the end times are near
ex kunai hit's in front and lk hit's in back and dodges dps, both net a followup combo so the jump is a true 50/50
Her V Skill moves your hurtbox back a bit. It also hits meaty and can be followed up. if that is ever useful, i don't know
>>343890490
Normies anon. Normies
So anyone have a leveling guide for this shit? I want my fucking colors and zenny.
So how long does it take to level characters past level 13?
Do I need to do survival normal and hard to get exp and if so how much do I get?
Got all the beginner shit out of the way and I don't even have half the crap available.
Also whose fucking retarded idea was it to separate colors per skin in survival? Fuck that asshole don't feel like doing Normal 3x with Karin and Alex..
>>343890490
>western trash
>western trash
>GG update has virtually no changes for the majority of characters and is an anime game so confirmed dead already
>A casual pokemon 'fighting game'
Come on anon
Can someone help me. I downloaded the new update and started the game and I can't play story mode. Why? I thought story mode was added in/ General story is just greyed out for me
>>343891829
PC?
>>343891829
Nope! You've got to download another 4 gig update to do story mode. Have fun!
>>343888598
I never played SF3, but I miss DDT. It looks cool as fuck.
>>343864281
Find local scene or play with friends on voice chat so they can give you instant feedback on your mistakes, so you can improve smoothly.
>>343891552
1 round survival mod for pc
enjoy your easy half million fight money and all colors
on console? you're fucked my man.
>>343888387
SF4 was boring zoner trash. I'm glad it's dead and never coming back.
>>343891982
You don't, most useless move in the game even if you are playing casually
im questioning why ibuki cant ex reload for either more kunai or much faster reload
>>343891552
>whose fucking retarded idea was it to separate colors per skin in survival?
Got to pad out that single player content that nobody ever really wanted.
Ibuki bnb ?
Main strategies and tips while using her?
Just picked the game up and decided to main her
>>343890490
>Edgelord stiff fighter for casuals and less competent players
>Edge game for button mashers
>Hardcore animu game for autistic weeaboos
>casual game for autistic weeaboos...and kids
Nah, I'm good senpai I'll probably play KI a little though
>>343892232
probably cause that would be too good so all you spend meter on
How come all the DLC characters are so bad?
ibuki is cancer
>>343892120
>on console? you're fucked my man.
No shit.
>>343892329
>Got to pad out that single player content that nobody ever really wanted.
Fucking capcom.
>>343892649
Alex is the only truly horrible one
Would you prefer a KoF13 situation where the metagame is dominated by two of the three DLC characters?
>>343892707
What are you trying to say friend?
>>343892707
I'd take kyo, iori and benimaru every kof fight over ibuki ever
>>343892819
I replied to the wrong person, it was meant to be the post below
I am glad to see the 50/50 cancer is back, truly it is now a Street Fighter game
>>343892850
>dp at a range where literally anything that can be threatened isn't a mixup
>>343892850
Not worth it, people are unlikely to DP in that situation and if they were you would be in a better punish position just blocking
>>343887612
See the healthbar, when it starts to drop in the middle it means there is a fresh combo starting.
>>343892120
sounds great but I'm worried about getting b&
>>343893097
>>343893206
you are right, just trying some stuff out like this
not really practical but could be fun to land in a gamealso people mash dp in the dumbest situations so i guess you would actually hit a fair amount of people, including some higher ranked ones because they just mash dp, but yeah its only fun stuff and not really worth it
Every time I get the urge to try to learn how to play fighting games and git gud, I look at the community and nope the fuck out. The only thing these threads are good for is persuading people not to play.
>>343893837
Pussy
>>343893837
You're just a lazy guy looking for excuses.
>>343893837
If you just don't wanna play don't make excuses for it faggot
does story mode give good FM?
>>343894224
I think it was 30k on normal and 50k on extra.
>>343894224
30k for finishing on normal, 50k for finishing on extra. You won't think it's worth it after fighting input reading AI every time.
>>343894305
worthless oh well
thanks for the answer
Okay im fucking lost
Anyone know where i can download the Round one survaival mod?
The only one i have found don't work
>>343894224
>>343894392
Just for perspective, characters cost 100k and stages cost up to 70k.
>>343894634
https://mega.nz/#!OkglgJwR!tU_4OqQbnK-D4alTJgt2Yz3-_Y6ZmmZ9BosnurFUi2U
>>343894952
>https://mega.nz/#!OkglgJwR!tU_4OqQbnK-D4alTJgt2Yz3-_Y6ZmmZ9BosnurFUi2U
MAH NIGGER
>>343894654
I finish story mode with all characters, easy survival with all characters, normal with my main, trials with all characteres, and cinematic story mode on normal.
Bought my main's story mode costume, some colors, Ibuki, Balrog and Alex, did everything story, trials and easy survival with Ibuki and Balrog, and I'm sitting at 106k FM.
>>343864281
Are you me? We should give up
>>343891982
I wish it was his V-reversal or something. His current one just looks like his st.mk.
>>343895621
But it's probably the best v-reversal in the game. He have some nasty setups after it.
