Zero Time Dilemma
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After thinking about it for a while, I think Zero's actions were justified.
At the very least, he's a sympathetic character after Happy End.
>>343816557
>clone machine
>quantum computer
>robots
He is as incompetent as his father.
Happy birthday America
This Zero did his job well.
>Created a timeline in which he lives and get sent to the past, so he appears in every timeline after 1904
>Created a timeline where Sean can finally find his happy life, even if virtual
>Created a timeline where the AB project gets done, and so the whole game can be played
>Created a timeline in which 9 people become superheroes that can save the world
>All in ONE game
You can't say he hadn't a complex mind.
>>343817090
that's what the monty hall problem is all about, anon
>>343816992
So no one with the PC version was smart enough to take a screenshot without the subtitles?
Anyone have that picture of all the Zero foreshadowing?
>>343817003
MURDER
>>343817338
GAB
>>343817281
You don't think firefighters are patriotic?
>>343816867
reposting this
>343817069
i got all the endings already though (except for one)
>>343817195
there might be a bug, i got thefinal decisionbeforephi/delta being born, not sure if thats how its supposed to go. and yeah, i did do all the votes at the beginning
>Drunk Diana.
>>343816557
which one? he can't shift and he clearly stated that any of the various Zero is a different and complex individual
>>343817463
>used goods Diana
I was not okay with that.
>>343817178
Yeah, I think I liked this rendition of zero more then the others
Why dont you browse 4 + 4 chan?
>>343817564
I want /r9k/ to leave
>>343817640
I want facebook to leave.
>>343817281
Really want it that badly? Here you go.
I have a few of the scenes saved on my computer so it's not all that hard getting pictures.
>>343816557
Please postMINDHACKimages. Seeign them makes me laugh and forget about my disappointment in this game
>>343816557
He sure knows how to outplay.I love seeing his shadow throughout the game.
>>343817238
I mean, if you really wanted to fuck with them.
You would give give them a 1/10 chance of guessing right.
Then: only ask them if they wanted to switch lockers in the instance they were right.
And if they were wrong, just open the empty locker.
To shit on people who knows about Monthy Hall.
>>343817736
Go back to your containment board
The world needs more suicidal Carlos.
He's gonna spend all of eternity shifting and fucking killing himself
>C team only gets one ending
WHY
>>343817769
Does it feel better now?
>>343817531
>various Zero is a different and complex individual
They are mostly the same. It's not like every Eric is a completely different individual because he couldn't shift.
>>343817876
Go back to your favorite social media.
Has it occurred to anyone yet that Delta might have been Lord Gordain? Uchi did say that we would learn more about Gordain in ZTD but that he would not be directly referred to. That said, Uchi's word was clearly not his bond with regards to ZTD's content.
>dream that I'm playing a proper unlocked True Route in the game
>then dream that I'm posting about it on /v/
I think my disappointment has carried over into my subconscious. Feels bad, man.
Why did he kill the pupper in one end? Why was the pupper chained up in one end?
>>343817325
This?
Also, best Zero.
>>343818489
Someone may want to write it again, there's also the double IV in the cover (Participant 4 was never revealed) and you can hear Delta screaming in the shower room executions.
>>343818495
>akane in that dress
twelve inches, every time
>>343817178
>Created a timeline in which he lives and get sent to the past, so he appears in every timeline after 1904
This is valid and basically the same thing Akane does.
>Created a timeline where Sean can finally find his happy life, even if virtual
Didn't need the decision game to do this.
>Created a timeline where the AB project gets done, and so the whole game can be played
Okay, I guess. He had to kill six billion people because he was too incompetent to find out who one person was, but I suppose it trained Sigma and Phi enough to do esper shenanigans.
>Created a timeline in which 9 people become superheroes that can save the world
Hardly. Eric and Mira are still useless while Akane/Junpei/Phi/Sigma already had the training. Carlos just needed to be told about SHIFT. Zero was honestly better off making an intelligent army of Seans if he wanted superheroes.
>>343818015
Maybe Akane was just a nut who didn't understand that Sigma didn't actually care that much for Kyle.
>>343818015
Who?
>>343818456
I think people are looking to deep into Gab.
He is literally just a dog. People like dogs, and when he gets killed everyone gets upset. Who fucking kills dogs?
>eric fire m79 indoors point blank
>not only does the grenade arm instead of punching a hole in the fishbowl, they somehow get to safe distance on foot with one of them in a wheelchair
Bullshit.
>>343818489
Yes, thanks anon
Agreed, I have my issues with this game as the end to Zero Escape but this Zero was my absolute favourite
>>343818015
I think Kyle is supposed to be the player
Not as in you're playing as Kyle, but Kyle is you. He jumped into our universe and was born as you. You are Kyle's consciousness.
It explains why Kyle is just an empty husk in the VLR timeline
>>343818495
>Dio's head pitched on the point of the flag
>Eric going apeshit with a gun
>Junpei's head rolled over on the ground
It's the small things.
>>343816557
Someone post zeros greatest weapon in his diabolical plan
Youknow, the thing that can carry and has wheels
Post memo doddles
How based a single person can be?
>>343818916
all of this is wrong though, Kyle was definitely its own character. Blick Winkel was supposed to just SHIFT with him somehow.
>>343818641
>the double IV in the cover
wut?
>>343819091
Shame he can't write an ending to save his life.
>>343818916
Blick Winkel is the player. I don't have the tweet saved that confirms this. Kyle is absent from the game.
>>343819091
Shit, was that the 999 poster that Spike Chunsoft was referring to in their tweet?
>>343819067
>>343819067
Yo, watch your ink meter.
>>343818883
Q actually dies. That's how they get the X-Pass to escape. I still think it's stupid, but it's perfectly in character for Eric.
>>343819304
Yes.
>>343819316
>Using the eraser takes up ink
WHOEVER THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA NEEDS A LETHAL INJECTION OF RADICAL SIX
Can we all agree on one thing?FUCK THE TRANSPORTER ROOM
I laughed
>>343818489
This is probably the most well executed twist Uchi has ever done.
>>343819597
fuck the transporter in general
>lol aliens lmao
>>343819489
Ya, it was a bad design choice.
>>343819489
>>343819316
Why is there an ink meter? Shouldn't you be able to take as many notes as you want?
>>343819632
I donno. It was to easy to see it comming.
>>343818489
The only problem with this is the lack of a 10th pass code. No-one points out the fact there are only 9 slots.
>>343819632
And it's completely pointless.
>>343818015
ITS
GAB
>>343819846
Sean isnt a participant
So what other room escape games are fun?
>>343819626
noone thought this was funny? :(
>>343818916
Kyle is K, not you.
>>343819846
Sean can't die, he's a robot
>>343819597
Why? Because it's hard, or because it's a Deus Ex Machina?
>Zero is revelead
>no one really liked him
>memes about him start to be spammed
>OMG BEST ZERO EVER!!!
going mainstream was a mistake
>>343818706
Hardly. Eric and Mira are still useless while Akane/Junpei/Phi/Sigma already had the training.
i won't argue with mira and eric, but they proved themselves useful as two killers that oiled up the danger machine.
also, he gave akane, junpei and sigma the right motivation to seek out the killer, since delta is stranded in every single timeline.
i'm quite sure a few versions of him actually spot the killer, but they were somehow left in the dark.
now all delta needs is to wait for one of them to jump back at him and tell him who is the killer, go and kill that fucker, and call it a day and invite everyone to eat ice cream at eric's place.
but 10 bucks says that whoever is so pent on destroying the world, is either a shifter, or asnail
>>343819846
Only ones who know about Sean during the game are Eric and Mira (and Delta obviusly)
>>343820046
I blame the milennials.
>>343820010
Kyle is only K in the timelines where you fail to defuse the bomb or die in some other reason.
In the primary VLR timeline, K was always Akane and Kyle is in the pod
>>343820029
Easily the hardest room in the game
>>343819718
Problem is, the transporter is fine, it just didn't need to be aliens.
In the vein of many things in this series, it could be a closed loop/paradoxwhatever where future Delta built the time machine and sent the blueprints using the machine itself to the past or whatever.
It just didn't need fucking aliens.
>>343819998
I laughed.
>>343819597
>he didn't write that shit out
I thought it was too easy personally. Was sort of dissapointed it wasn't on the same level as the Q room in VLR.
>>343820080
>gave akane, junpei and sigma the right motivation to seek out the killer
45 years o working their asses off isn't enough? Just tell them about the terrorist ffs.
All he needed to do is explain to Carlos what shifting was
>>343819597
Did people have trouble with the puzzles? All rooms in ZTD were easy, Transporter was about in the middle in terms of difficulty. I played around with numeral systems a bit back in the day though so I knew what to do right away
I have no problem with Delta being there all the time, I have a problem with HOW it was explained that he was there all the time
>>343819998
it was funny, man.
>>343817460
you're supposed to know zero's real name by the time that carlos saves jumpei and akane at the "muh 10 months" timeline, the anagram is the one who give it to you, after that, go to the timeline "who killed muh mira" and answer zero real name, he gives you the code for the 1 force quit
>>343816974
Yeah, €37 feels overpriced. I think €25 would be fair.
>>343820210
>Not buying a giant white board to put in your gaming area for game note taking
>>343820113
>pick all the cards off the floor
>put them in the machine
>use basic algebra to figure out all the symbols
The only hard part of figuring out that the second set of icons equate to roman numerals.
>>343820210
>needing to write it down
>>343820287
don't forget he's a psychopath, so he probably wanted to have some fun in the meanwhile, and kill mira at least once.
>>343820135
It's not fine at all when you consider that this is the end of a series in which time machines didn't exist up until now even though they would've changed the previous games completely with their presence.
The concept was shoved in in the most retarded way possible and resolved multiple plotlines that were otherwise impossible to resolve.
It is the most literal definition of a deus ex machina in the 3rd act out of fucking nowhere.
Stop defending it.
>>343820481
>second set of icons equate to roman numerals
Are there any webms of Phi doing that Rider kick?
>>343819597
>not knowing the fundamental theorem of arithmetic
>>343820110
Well you know Kyle's personality from the other routes and from the cliffhanger. Ita definitely a character.
>>343820589
>"I only gave her due punishment."
DELTA DID NOTHING WRONG
>>343820210
VLR's Q room was just tedious. At least this one can be solved by using logic.
>>343820746
I'm saying that character shifts into reality and becomes you
It's a stretch and a crackpot theory to be sure but there it is
>>343820210
Post transporter room notes.
>>343820667
>>343820623
Good luck, anon.I don't think that guy is one of them butthere are tons of people in these threads who think ZTD is a completely flawless and perfect game, and will accept no perspective to the contrary, no matter the quality nor quantity of evidence in support.
>Team C killed more people than any of the other teams
>Fanatic Bio R>Fabrication
>>343820853
>>343820667
Why does Phi likes to kick so much?
>>343819597
>>343820210
> Pick up all the cards and get the Wind = 0 message.
> Then spend a fucking half hour or more shoving each card into the blue star machine and play Ay La Mo to work out what cards beat what.
> Work out almost every single card.
> Start mashing my fucking face on everything but I can't progress.
> Fucking hologram book suddenly has more stuff for me.
> Massively simplifies the working out process.
I can't tell if I'm proud I did it myself, or mad that the holobook just seems to randomly fucking update.
>>343820853
>mfw seeing whose feet the gun ends up at
>>343821021
is that even a kick? i'd call that a goomba stomp at best
>>343820943
Every person has blood on their hands if you take all the routes into account.
>>343820771
My only problem with the Q room was the dice and the fucking dart board.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DTt0DJn0_CU
Is this the best song in the game?
>>343820820
Did you really needed all those fucking notes just to deduce the symbols?
why were the ayylium glyphs so human-like if they apparently had 13 fingers on presumably 3 or more arms?
>>343821080
Phi hasn't killed a single person
So what were the top 3 worst aspects or ZTD?Mira having no character consistency.No EpilogueRetconning >you
>>343821073
It's like a dive-kick.
>>343820940
I thought the general consensus was that it's mostly a dissapointment.
>>343821202
that was an example
it was literally "imagine if", it's never stated that they are actually like that
>>343821214
She kills sigma and Diana by being an idiot and fearing double poison
>>343821091
The dice part becomes a lot easier once you release that only one out of a pair of the same colored dice can possibly end up in the correct position.
>>343821219
Retconning (You) was the best.
Retconning Kyle was the worst.
>>343818883Sean is protecting Q in that scene.
>>343820940
Oh, hell no. The game is without a doubt the worst of the three, but it's alright.
>>343820113
Wut.
>rub the cards on the "show me the cards"
>rub against every interactible object in the room
>guess which symbol is which with basic math
>do primary school multiplication in memo
>HEY DIPSHIT YOU REMEMBER WHAT A BASE IS RIGHT?
>THIS THING HAS FIVE SLOT AND YOU CALCULATED A FIVE DIGOT NUMBER
>AM I GETTING ACROSS?
Hardest part of the room was interacting with the nucleus pod after it becomes available for interaction. I had more trouble with the flowers, the sliding letters, and ingeracting with the tiny timer button in manufacturing.
Admit it, you laughed at it.
>>343821219
That shit near the end where you have to choose to shift or not.
How the fuck is that even a choice?
They've been doing it all this time and suddenly they start feeling guilty about it.
Fuck that
>>343821318
But it makes sense, why else would they use such a useless system?
>>343821139
sure
>>343821202
it's a ruse.
shifters created the pods in the past in order to fuck up with the timelines in the future. and used the ayy lmao thing to cover up their tracks.
the morphogenetic war is real, anon.
>>343821529
Complex
>game brings back loads of music from 999 and VLR
>Recollection
fugg
>>343821219TransporterConstant explanations of things that have already been explained in the previous games/repeats of backstoy expositionone religious fanatic causing the extinction of the human race
>>343821159
Not really. Because I started trying out figuring it out via the board and then ditched that and tried by just multiplying. The ones on the bottom are redundant because at the end I reorganized them on the top.
>>343821219>Dropped plot lines that were promised in VLR Q&A
>Inconsistent personalities
>Complex
>>343821219There was no KyleWhat the fuck was that button there forWhy did the dog have to die
>>343821238
It could have been better, but honestly, it's a fitting enough end to the series. Certainly better than not having it.
>>343821238
Unfortunately, many people will shit the thread up and claim that only one or two people think the game is bad.
>>343821473
Yeah it had decent concepts but ultimately, it really fell far short of what it was intended to be.
>>343821139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GveSKpeanh8
Sean's theme is better.
>>343821219
>Sigma and Phi not abusing their shift powers
>The fragment format in general. I think it wouldve fared better VLR style.
>That bullshit twist that we are supposed to.believe because of a handful of quick dialogue hints and a slight shadow, and yet there are no wheel tracks anywhere.
Sum up your feelings about this game in ONE word
>>343821710
Which button?
>>343821490
i did.
>>343821219
Abandoning a lot of major plot points from VLR
No final Quest room in the true routeNewscaster not coming back to ring in the new year
>>343821794
bewilderment
>>343821794
Okay.
>>343821219
The reuse of morphogenetic sorrow every other fucking scene
No Kyle or ???
Stiff animations and poor lighting
Aliens
Thank god there weren't more recurring characters, even if Mira is lackluster. I personally like Eric, and Sean and Delta were both great.
>>343821219
>no Kyle
>last decision is pants on head retarded like completely retarded what were they thinking
>how much shit just stopped because of the 90 minute cap on each fragment
Where are all the good wallpapers at? I only got this one.
Hey guys, what if they DID wake up earlier but they just kept forgetting because of the bracelet drugs?
Also, maybe the other teams were killed because of the vote at 13:30?
>>343821794
Complex
>>343817769
Why were you disappointed? ZTD is easily the best game.
>>343821794
Meh
>>343821695
For me the hardest part was what to do after figuring out the numbers, and the fucking book tells you to change the numbers to base 13,
>>343821938
i got you senpai
>>343821794
MINDHACK
I
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D
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A
C
K
>>343821794
Adequate.
so, what was the fucking burn mark sean notices in the floor in the lobby, in that part where eric decide not to boomstick him?
>>343821794
Nyalright.
>>343821794
Mediocrity.
Did it sell decently?
Where was Kyle?
Why was Gab kill?
Is there a true ending I missed?
>>343821794
Fuck
>>343821794
Goldstar.
>>343816557
>there was a Zero in each group
>>343822054
Probably a bloodstain from akane
>>343821794
unsatisfying
>>343821946
No, we don't know for sure that they're dead. A crazy psychopathic madman could have just locked us in here as part of a joke!
>>343821219
Mira in general
Not just using the VLR flowchart. Conceptually this game is very nice, but the execution made almost every death/gameover feel limp.
Not enough puzzle rooms/no final room or even standalone final puzzle.
Still loved the game. Weakest of the series, but through no fault of its own in my opinion.
I can't fucking wait until 999 is voiced.
>>343822097
No idea.
Not in the game.
No idea; maybe to provide him with a quick painless death.
Nope.
>>343822137
>>343822179
>sub ending
gonna be fucking hype.
>>343819632
>no one in Q team suspect most suspicious invisible Delta
>no one talk ABOUT HIM
>tons of Q team shots from above without any shadow and wheelchairs
>"most well executed twist Uchi has ever done.
No. It's most poor executed part in game. Worst in series.
>>343821956
This is the only guy that gave the correct answer
>>343821769
Sudoku
>>343821794
Carlos?
Thinking about it now, Delta really is similar to the player. He essentially fucks around making different choices and getting all the "endings" he wants to happen.
Is what he is doing justifiable, is what you are doing justifiable? Is fucking around constantly with timelines and the fates of your other-selves, in alternate histories ok if you manage to create a single timeline when everyone is happy?
That's the final conundrum at the end when Carlos is pointing the gun at Delta.
>>343816557
I don't mind the round about way Zero got to the end, it's just like in the first two.
I just didn't like how he mansplained the whole plot at the end and called everyone a massive retard for thinking he was at fault for killing them hundreds of times
Well, that was a fun ride.
>>343821794
subpar
>>343822168
>Not just using the VLR flowchart
Uchi can't use the same twist twice.In the same series
>>343821794
Despite all the memes, "Complex" really fits the best for me honestly.
REMINDER
DELTA
DID
NOTHING
WRONG
>>343817769
The game is not very good as end of trilogy, because of missing plotlines, forgotten characters from VLR and silly plot twists out of ass compared to infinity series/999/VLR. But somehow everything is so fuckin good and fun. Even silly twists are fun.
>THE FUCK
>BEHOLD THE POWER OF MIND HACKING
>COMPLEX
>2CARLOS LMAO
>SNAILS
>BOSS PHI
>CARLOSBOWL
>CALL THE COPS
>DON'T WORRY I WON'T DIE
>BUTTON
>>343822437
I can't read your handwriting for shit
Just finished it. Shouldn't have preordered this at all, anyone know if they fixed the PSTV bug yet? Not that the numerous touch screen sections would make it enjoyable.
I have literally played eroge that had the same exact plot twist but handled it better.
>>343821238
>>343820940
I personally found it really good (999 is the weakest entry for me), but it depends on the hour the threads are up.
>>343821202
You ever watch Star Gate?Basically what I'm saying is slavery.
>ok, I transported
>hmm, I'm ten months early what do I do
>stop zeros plan?
>nope, the. I won't have met my bffs
>I'll just wait right here for ten months and everything will be perfectly ok
>I can't wait to see the look on their faces
>>343822586
>I have literally played eroge that had the same exact plot twist but handled it better
Like?
>>343822560
>my retarded picture is getting reposted
i feel accomplished
>>343822572
Cuz it's doodled in bed on a stack of paper with no solid support while holding my vita in the other hand.
Also, Carlos and Akane were flirting while literally solving puzzles using pieces of Junpei's body. We reached levels of cuckoldry that shouldn't even be possible.
Also Akane's and Junpei's characterization was god awful and inconsistent... did he seriously try to make Junpei an "edgy super detective" or what the fuck
i dont even know anymore anons. hold me while i go play overwatch
>>343822698
His expression when he says "But then I wouldn't have met you guys!" is what gets me.
He's all "NAILED IT".
>>343822698
Well, he was right though.
Changing anything would result in another timeline from where they travelled.
If you faggots want to play a time travel VN with a good ending I suggest you check out YU-NO.
>>343822814
>playing memewatch
Anon...
>>343822702
Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo
>>343822814
Cucked by Carlos
>>343822814
>Junpei's character was inconsistent
With what? 999? They addressed that countless times in the story. If you were Junpei the events of 999 would turn you somber too.
>>343819769
You would think. They allowed that in VLR. Not sure why they changed it for ZTD.
>>343822454
> 1 2 3 4 5 -7-8-
Made me laugh for some reason.
>>343822965
Not just that, but within the game itself - he would go from "im a badass secret detective edgelord hurr" to grumpy jumpy within the same scene.
Not to mention how the fuck this all relates to old jumpei in VLR
>>343822814
>Akane and Junpei's personality was inconsistent
How so? Akane was the same from 999 to the letter. Blowing people up was probably Santa's idea in the whole plan.
Junpei literally had his Tenmyouji personality from VLR.
>>343822814
Wait, that was flirting? I thought they were just playing around and teasing one another during that fragment.
>akane and aoi will never go to jail for murdering three people
>delta will never go to prison despite being the leader of a terrorist death cult
Why is law enforcement in Zero Escape so useless and unjust
>>343822814
The only thing that didn't make sense was the fact that he wasn't constantly shitting on Akane for putting him in a fucking death game against his will. Him being jaded with her makes complete sense.
>>343823005
Solving rooms for good 10 straight hours took some toll on me.
POST YFWPasses from alternate histories cannot be used.
>>343822631
why would they use images of slaves to represent digits? Especially since the "strongest" digit contains one
>>343823274
>mfw the flowchart sorted itself out
>>343823274
I saw it coming, but it was still handled in a spooky way.
>>343822890
Remaster looks like ass tho. It will be completely rewritten, right?
>>343822941
>Sharin no Kuni
>same plot twist
Wut? G-senjou maybe have something similar.
>>343823274PENALTYPENALTY
>>343823210
was mostly for the cuckoldry joke, anon
>>343823231
oh and she does it AGAIN - by injecting him 4noraisins in one timeline and going "oh just feel my beating heart :^)" in another
>>343823345
Slave trumps emperor, anon.
>>343823274
>then PENALTY PENALTY happens
>>343823460The protags incestuous sister was there alongside him the whole time but was forbidden by speaking by law. the game hinted at this numerous times
>>343822814
what was bullshit was the ending where they basically went back to 999 characterization.
>>343823460
>remaster
NANNNIIIIIII?
>>343823163
>Akane was the same from 999 to the letter
are you kidding me? She was literally nothing alike
>>343823274
I couldn't have been the only one to already try alternate-timeline X-passes before that moment, in one of the other timelines where you can type X-passes in.
>>343823460
What's the problem in your opinion?
Remaster looks fine to me since I can appreciate both 90s and modern art styles.
>VIVE HODIE
What?
>>343823460
Did you even play Sharin no Kuni? The 'big reveal' is very similar to what happens in ZTD only the ending wasn't nearly as stupid.
So if there's a second Carlos in every timeline, wouldn't he have come to rescue Akane/Junpei in the twins ending and saved Diana/Sigma?
>>343822890
>with a good ending
>guy fucked his daughter so hard that the universe is born
sasuga
>>343822428
Game about that fat skeleton pls go.
>>343823791
Carlos has no reason to save Diana/Sigma, only Junpei and Akane.
Also he's not in every timeline either.
>>343818706
He needed Sean to experience these things so he can grow enough to play that final Decision game over his fate.
>>343823460
>they changed all the delicious thighs for moe skeleton anime girl legs
I don't even know what the fuck is this but Im mad
>>343823646
The change of designs. And I found new artist is pretty average. It's loosk like moege now
>>343823602
>a clueless broad with useless knowledge that somehow became relevant as the game progressed
nah she the same
>>343822890
YU-NO went to shit in the 2nd act after the whole medieval thing happens desu
It just feels like a completely different game with almost no ties into what happened in the first half.
>>343822772
it's gonna get posted every day until you like it.
>>343823768
>The 'big reveal' is very similar to what happens in ZTD
You mean "I pretending for n years"?
Does anyone wonder how little Gab was used this game? You would think they would have used him more to send messages and stuff.
>>343823828
You forgot to mention the part where is fucks his stepmother, his other daughter and eats one of his friends.
>>343823869
>Also he's not in every timeline either.
But he is.
>Carlos has no reason to save Diana/Sigma, only Junpei and Akane.
The bunker is a black box. He doesn't know who's dead and who's alive.
>>343823902
The designs were modernized like I said. Not really an objective criticism.
>It's loosk like moege now
You don't know what moege looks like. Educate, then kill yourself.
>>343823971
>It just feels like a completely different game with almost no ties into what happened in the first half
I love the fact that the epilogue was basically an entire game unto itself.
>>343824030
He certainly lived a fullfilling life.
>>343823869
Except he is in very timeline now just like Delta/Phi. But you miss my point, he would come back to get Akane/Junpei but would find Diana and Sigma instead. Unless, for whatever reason, you think he didn't search every room when he didn't find anyone in the lounge.
>>343819998
I don't get it.
>>343824018
If they used him a lot, the characters would eventually realize that they were in the same ward. When Gab just came wandering back without anything in his medicine pouch.
>>343824018
He was mostly misdirection in several scenes where Q was involved, to make it look like they were talking to or talking about or coming back to save the dog instead of the old man
>>343824018
Ja that is another thing - almost feels like there was a disagreement and change over how the game would be and Gab was a remnant
Not to mention DELTA kills him for no goddamn reason
>>343824118
>modernized
>looks like shit
wew
>>343824070
Wait a second, what point in time would he have saved Diana and Sigma? Is it possible he could've done so after the part we see?
>>343821219
ZTD was built on a god-tier premise that was original and could have really driven home a "What is moral agency? Are you still morally responsible for something you can't remember doing? With every passing second, are you just inheriting your ethical past from a previous version of you? Is morality just luck?" It was an absolutely amazing fucking setup to a story that could have been both entertaining and really intellectually engaging.
Instead it was a frankenstein of wikipedia memes, half baked plot lines and storyboard indecision. It was unfocused and a completely wasted opportunity.
>>343824215
Delta kills him so no one goes "AHU HU HU WE CANT TELEPORT OUT GAB IS HERE"
If Delta didn't kill him, the thread would be filled with
>LEAVING GAB TO DIE
>UCHIIIII
>>343824215
>looks like shit
I don't know anon, new Akane is, to be blunt, really hot.
>>343823964
She was the mastermind behind the second Nonary Game and the AB Project, she was supposed to be pretending in 999. VLR presented her as a relatively cold, calculating woman.
>>343821484
If there wasn't 2 moon, 2 guy, 3 moon I probably would have gotten it eventually. What the fuck kind of numbering system repeats characters before going to the next digit?
>>343824169
Similar to games you play and it looks like a certain someone from ZTD
>>343824408
you goddamn memer I was talking about the YU NO remake
>>343824368
as good as reason as any in this game i guess
also that fucking transporter REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343823231
He kind of brings it up all the time early on, it just happens less when Carlos is there to ease things up.
>>343824118
>Educate,
>kill yourself.
Sorry, but I don't think opinion from uderaged EOP worth anything.
>>343823210
I found that part unintentionally hilarious. Pretty much the only conversation they had alone and they had a great time and bonded. The three actual couples of the game barely have any moments like that.And then of course Akane flips out on his ass afterwards over Junpei.
>>343824605
old Yuno looks like shit too.
>>343824426
>she was the mastermind
I never understood this. Santa was the one that created Crash Keys by, ironically, getting money back from investing fucktons of stock into Cradle Pharma in the first place. Sure Akane probably planned the second nonary game but it was always clear to me that the more gruesome aspects (explosions) were Santa's idea of revenge for almost murdering his sister.
>>343824512
XXVI
>>343823274
It was unexpected.
>>343824681
Post some Gilbert Gilberto faglord.
>>343824234
Can't say for sure. They don't show a date or the time in the cinematic before he busts in. It's save ti assume that it is the same night though.
With that in mind he should have saved Diana and Sigma on the first day/night.
>>343824730
>old YU NO looks like shit
i could not disregard your opinion faster if i could S H I F T to other timelines, motherfucker
True end
>>343824730
You look like shit, anon.
>>343824872
How did the bomb not kill him
>>343824559
Never played it, no fucking clue what that game is about
that thing looks adult size and Sean is a "kid"
I don't see any humor here.
>>343824872
>>343824940
I was trying to think of a situation where this would happen.
Arms exploding, and no helmet on? Surely the bomb would have done more damage at close range.
>>343824872
This was stupid as fuck though.
How exactly did explosion rip off his arms but leave chest intact?
I thought it would be some kind of 'saw'ish puzzle where he has to sacrifice both arms to save someone.
>>343824872
I'M NUCCLEARRRRRR
>>343824940
I assume his MAGNUM DONG protected his body.
I can't be the only one that thinks these two look fucking nothing alike.
Just look at the hair
one is brown and the other is some weird fucking purple
what the fuck
>>343824512
>Man Man = Man * Man
>numbers from 0 to 13
> two squares, one cube
>3 leftover primes ie 6 combinations before even using the board
The biggest hurdles in the puzzles imo, for the whole game, was banging your head against the UI. I hate having to rub every surface in every room because there might be something interactible in that pixel while being interrupted by dialogue boxes for every click.
>>343825170
you are the only one
>>343824793
>Akane probably planned the second nonary game
>the more gruesome aspects (explosions) were Santa's idea
the game literally couldn't have been planned without taking the way the trio was killed into account. Part of what made the ending so shocking was realizing how cold Akane has become ove the years.
>>343825170
You are unique
>>343824872
>bomb blows both arms off
>clothes on torso aren't even dirty
there is no physical way this could happen
>>343824940
He clearly put his arms in front of himself for protection
>>343824017
no the "I was with you the whole time" one
>>343825170
it's still junpei, don't worry about it
>>343825170
is jumpei on the left supposed to be dressed like the guy from that old movie they were talking about in one of the fragments too?
>>343825290
SOMETIMES A SINGLE SPECK OF DUST CAN SAVE THE LIFE OF A MAN
LIFE IS SIMPLY UNFAIR, DON'T YOU THINK?
>>343825375
You can tell because this game shits all over him as well
>>343825170
>his eyes aren't actually red in game
What the fuck was up with the color palette prior to release?
>>343825265
>was realizing how cold Akane has become
Nigga a woman would do more to you for commenting on how many shoes are in her closet. Then she'd go back to being her normal self afterwards.
>>343823274
Swiss cheese.
They should have never given Phi orange eyebrows, it made the reveal far too obvious.
>>343825170
And there's N O W A Y These two are the same person.
Complete different fucking people
>>343825265
So did you just completely gloss over the parts of the game where
>Akane murders Carlos with no proof that he did anything
>Akane bashes Carlos' head in with a fire hydrant
>Akane continued to bash Carlos' head in with a fire hydrant after he was mulch
Literally less sane than Eric
>>343825825
I would still have sex with both of them.
do you need to do anything special to get the true end? or just beat all fragments?
>>343824872
I'm still trying to figure this one out.
>>343824865
>muh contrarian and 80s/90s art opinion
Kill
Yourself
>>343825903
One more thing
>Akane left the facility and never sent anyone back to save Sigma and Diana
>>343826227
She had her mind wiped as soon as she left
>>343825903
>game pulls a "NU HUH YOU PICKED BETRAY LAST TIME"
>Akane immediately bashes Carlos' fucking brains out screaming bloody murder
Bitch is dangerous, yo.
>>343826227
>i'll do ANYTHING to make sure that my plan works
>literally just gives up on the plan of sending Sigma back to the future
>>343826227
she prolly had other nonary games to plan bro
gotta zero fast
>>343826460
Anon we arent supposed to say that name
>>343825903
I'm not talking about Akane's ability to kill, but how she went from calculating, planning, ruthless actress in 999 to emotional, useless, clueless bitch in ZTD to cold, detached, revolutionary scientist in VLR.
Killing in a fit of rage means literally nothing. Anyone is capable of that.
>>343826518
A true gamer girl.
post more comics
/v/, Two Carloses are stuck in the shelter.
There's someone else with them. Who is it?
>>343824872
>tries to disarm the bomb
>the bomb ends up disarming him
BRAVO
>>343826580
You seem to be under the impression that Akane isn't fucking nuts from her childhood traumatic experience with the nonary game coupled with her suicidal parents.
>>343824872
Bad writing.
>>343826710
Q of course
>>343826792COMPLEXPOTTERY
>>343826663
>Never get to see the sister
She must be 10/10 if an alpha stud like Carlos is into her.
Do girls like Diana exist in real life I wanna marry a cute red head with blue eyes badly now
>>343826710
Maria
>>343824872
He looked so stupid after with those giant bandaged stump arms
>Really like Junpei
>Like Akane
>Feel bad for Eric
>don't like Diana
>/v/ tells me I'm wrong
O-ok
Sigma probably covered himself with his arms when he saw it was too late to defuse the bomb, that's why he only lost them.
>>343826936
Used whore? There are tons of em.
>>343826710
Carlos.
>>343826986
Fuck Eric. He was always way too trigger happy.
>>343826853
>>343826663
holy fuck there's an edit of my shitty mspaint comic? I'm honored.
>>343826986
You are just a 999fag. Eric is Junpei 2.0
It's been a while since I played 999, but why was Locust in the second nonary game?
I remember she had twin kids or something, were they kidnapped during the first? What was her role in 999?
>>343827201
They were in the first
>>343827034
This is actually the timeline where Fanatic Carlos is made due to his god complex. He's creating a clone army first.
>>343827201
>Locust
>>343827201
Mad computer skills I think.
>>343827258
Well a medium laser and two machine guns would be useful in any nonary game
>>343826832
what does that have to do with anything? Shitty childhood turned her into an unfeeling, intelligent mastermind that she was in 999, yet those traits were entirely reversed in ZTD only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4N6GJBApdk
Need some help
I'm on C team inside some kind of medical room, got a luminol spray, a stethoscope, a syringe and a Barcode reader
But I can't seem to find what I should do
There's a power panel on the wall that I can't find a way to open and some lockers that I don't have the codes for yet
>>343827240
>They're not even clones
>Just Carlos transported using the transporter
>Thousands of times
>He just jumps to whichever one he feels like at the time
GO AHEAD
>>343827385
>what does being nuts have to do with someone having multiple personalities
>>343827412
Spray paintingmwith luminol
>>343826986
I hated Junpei after ZTD. Even his
>MUH WORST OF HUMANITY
rationalization didn't endear me to him.
On the other hand, I ended up like Carlos.
>Literally the most reasonable guy in group C
>Always mediating conflicts between Akane and Junpei
>Ships Junpei and Akane
>Loves his sister and is in it to save her
>Yet always tries to do the right thing and save everyone anyways
>Delta is impressed with him enough to entrust him the first and final decision games
It's funny because I thought he was going to be a douche.
>>343826986
A+ taste in characters and shows right here
>>343819597
It was easy. The three moons were 8 since that is the only cube before 12, and that meant that the two moons were 4 and the one moon was 2. The two humans had to be 9 since that was the other square, meaning that one human was 3. You can use these to find 6 and 12. 10 is then just the only multiple of two left, and 5 is part of the symbol for 10. 0 is a given, and for 1, 7, and 11 you can just guess all combinations one by one since there's only 6.
>>343827385
I realize you are upset but you need to step away and think about things.
>>343827463
It's shitty writing not a personality disorder.
So who was the woman who Mira killed, who was the doctor, who was the man who was wrongfully imprisoned, who was his wife and who was the person at the hospital?
>>343827471
All I get is "no reaction here"
You mean the woman with candle poster on the wall?
>>343827463
>rabid fans making up shit to justify Uchikoshi's poor direction
every time
>>343827683
Next time just say youre from /lit/ and save us all some time, squiddo
>>343826986
Diana was quite literally an horrible person, don't know why people became infatuated with her here.
>>343827460
That, um.... Huh. Someone betrays him at Dcom and keeps him from his sister. She dies and he loses it and makes a clone army to destroy the evil in humanity.
>>343827738
Spray the lockers with luminol
>>343826986
Eric literally had to watch his brother get strangled to death by his father after his mother was murdered by a burgeoning serial killer, then drag his brother's dead body to a fucking lake and throw it in.
I am absolutely unsurprised he ended up as fucked in the head as he was, pretty sure anyone'd be after that.
>>343827398
>And then you just waited... for a long time?
>:D
Every fucking time.
>>343827765
Whatever you say, uchi.
>>343827385
>Akane is the mastermind of 999
>acts like a mastermind
>Akane is the mastermind of VLR
>acts like a mastermind
>Akane is not hte mastermind of ZTD
>acts clueless
>>343827398
Easily the best English voice-acting in the game. The sheer incredulity of it all doesn't come across nearly as much in the Japanese audio.
>all of the camera angles in this fucking game
Jesus Christ an inch further and the camera will clip through their heads
>>343827726
In order
Eric's mother
The surgeon scheduled to do life-saving surgery on Sean
Akane's dad
obviously Akane's mom
Sean was visited by Delta frequently because he was a kid genius
>>343827765
You're the one making up fanfiction to explain inconsistent writing. Some anons even said Uchi was with new writers. They shit the bed with Akane.
>>343827846
He's so fucking happy, he's like a big dorky puppy who thinks he's done real good
>>343827726
Erics mom, I dont know, Akanes dad, Akanes mom, Sean
What were his motives again?
>>343827789
That part was annoying.
>have to spray every surface.in the room by hand instead of just letting you slobber luminol all over the screen
>>343827740
You know, for all the transporter bullshit, I'm surprised I didn't see Clover and Alice because Akane said she would bring them back to the past. Using the transporter would make sense sort of.
Instead almost everything VLR was ignored
>>343821938
>>343822028
>>343822137
Got any for mobile?
>>343827901
He's the only decent English VA.
>only 10k sold on PC
>because it was released on PC a truckload of people that would have bought on 3DS or Vita just pirated on PC
>over 1.9 MILLION pirated downloads
>PC killed Uchikoshi's future
T-thanks
>>343827947
I mean if you count things that really happened in the series as fanfiction then yes. You're absolutely right.
>>343828015
To create an observed timeline where no shit happens.
>>343827840
yeah and yet he still doesn't turn into as much of a cunt as akane
>>343827898
that reminds me, akane is always portrayed as a mega-esper but in ZTD she's just an exposition dump
>>343827726
wait.. isn't mira like 25? how could she have killed someone so long ago
>>343827947
>Some anons even said Uchi was with new writers.
D-Route was written by Uchi.
C-Route and Q-Route were written by different people. I can find the link if you want.
>>343828015
Did he fug Diana at the end of the Shotgun Eric timeline?
>>343828086
>like 25
She was a child back then. Listen to her voice in that scene.
>>343827901
Most of the english va was too terrible for me to deal with aside from a few parts, so I ended up mostly with jap.Then I found out Zero was fucking Wesker in english
>>343827898
>an intelligent woman finds herself in an unusual situation
>80% of her brain cells die temporarily
sounds like a good explanation
>>343827765
Shouldn't you be working on ZE4, Uchi?
>>343828086
She was a kid when she killed Eric's mom
>>343828078
Where are you getting these piracy statistics?
>>343828079
Fuck off there isn't a shred of evidence that suggests Akane has multiple personality disorder. Having a facade during 999 doesn't mean she's fucked in the head.
>>343828086
children have committed murder before, anon
>>343823667
Check your files. It has a translation in there whenever Zero starts spouting latin.
>>343827898
>Akane is portrayed as this emotionless sociopath who will do whatever it takes to save the world in VLR
>Acts all cutesy, bubbly, and never comes up with any plans in ZTD
Bad writing, or 2deep4u?
>>343828078
the 3ds version leaked before release and a bunch of people downloaded that, pc had nothing to do with it
and it's only been out for one week
>>343828249
His ass
Seems a good place to ask. Is there actual closure to the story in this game? Been holding back on playing the game until I knew one way or the other on this. Since it's going to be the last one I really don't want to play it if its a 999 situation where the end is "and now you search your entire life for a person" or VLR's "to be continued".Also do Junpei and Akane get a good end? This is also pretty important to me. :3
>>343828256
not that anon but she has worse freakouts than Eric, senpai
>>343828073
Sigma's voice acting is fucking incredible, especially when portraying grief.
>"Phi?! Phi?! If you can't speak just... Make a sound or something! I'll find you!"
And I thought Eric did particularly well during the mental breakdown scenes too. Really, the only voices I had problems with were Junpei's and Carlos' at certain times. Junpei sounded a little too young for the whole grimdark detective backstory to be taken seriously, and sometimes Carlos just sounded like an amateur VA.
>>343824018
He was also a hint at the fact that the times weren't synched up, as if you pay attention, he seems to be in a lot of scenes in timelines where that wouldn't make much sense.
Also
>Your face when you realize that Zero was probably a Nazi at some point.
>>343828078
If amazon had shipped the game at least in the opening week I would have still bought it. Thank god I could just pirate the PC.
>>343828546
They fucked up.
>>343828479
That's not multiple personality disorder, that's love.
>>343828475
anon, I...
>>343828519
Eric's crying sounded legit as fuck to be honest
nailed the chest stutters on the exhales perfectly
>>343828256
>being a plotting mastermind who will make people she hates literally explode doesn't mean she's fucked in the head.
You got me there
>>343827398
>the fucking Curb music at the end
>>343827398
Could somebody here explain to me what Carlos actually did?
He SHIFTed to the history where he pushed the button, closed himself in the shelter and then used the transporter how exactly?
Which one bros?
>>343828475
less open ended then VLR, but a bit more so than 999's
if you want closure between characters it's there, but if you didn't like 999's this'll probably irritate you too
or you could just, you know, play the game and form your own opinion?
>>343827901
Eng VA was terrible. Aside from Zero, Carlos, Sigma and Phi, it sounded way worse then VLR.
>>343828475
>Is there actual closure to the story in this game?
No.
>>343828715
Used the transporter to go back in time before the game. Then he just waited
>>343828475
Umm not really. A lot of questions from VLR are left unanswered and they still have work to do to get that good end.They accidentally made a world more doomed then VLR
>>343828715
Think back to D-end.
>>343828741
Akane's picture is cute. Art will probably follow soon.
>>343828662
>only someone with multiple personality disorder is capable of killing people
>>343828741
Junpei akane carlos
>>343828741
Gimme Nyakane
>>343828715
Transported himself 10 months into the past, shifted to his OUTSIDE BODY, then waited 10 months to bust Akane and Junpei out
>>343828337
I did a double take when Carlos saw right through Akane and said her cutesy act was creeping him out. Too bad that never went anywhere.
>>343828519
Sigma's English VA was absolutely 9/9, especially in that scene. I switched to English for D-team because I liked his and Diana's dubs much better.
>>343828839
i wasnt the anon that said multiple personality disorder though.
What did Mira do to steal Eric's heart? He's completely smitten with her!
Smut thread >>>/aco/686648
>>343828870
I'm legit surprised that Carlos was so perceptive. Seems like all of Junpei's intelligence from 999 went to him.
>>343828078
>1.9 million
do u really think that many people care about these games?
>>343828741
Akane nendo when?
>>343828662
>Forgetting your own fanfiction
Why are you even talking?
>>343828839
>sane people are capable of killing others
wew
>>343828741
I want my own Nyakane nendo
>>343828754
>closure between characters
oh? did i miss an ending?
>>343828715
Transports Akane and Junpei to VLR timeline
SHIFTS to acid bath timeline and stays behind
Transports himself 10 months before the VLR timeline to create a stable loop where the transporter can be used in the first place
SHIFTS to his transported body in the VLR timeline, waits until the dilemma game is finished, and keeps his promise like a goddamn hero
Is there any official or fan art of Phi with red hair yet? I dont think my dick will be able to handle it.
>>343828662
I'm clearly talking about multiple personality disorder.
>>343828947
There's not really enough smut to make a thread for it
The only good pics are your pic, HEY KID WANNA SS with Quark/Alice, that one Locust solo pic, and the pic of Akane getting raped by Clover
>>343828715
he shifted to the timeline where Akane and Junpei kiloled everyone with the acid showers and instead of leaving he locks himself inside to use the transport pods to teleport himself back into time (don't ask me how he escapes wherever they are keeping the pods prior to Zero stealing them) and then he breaks into the facility only to find out that what he did was pointless and achieved nothing. Also there's a huge plothole in the fact that double Carlos should exist in EVERY timeline and help break them out, not just that one.
>>343829037
Check your files.
>>343828908
>>343829005
I never implied that Akane wasn't fucked in the head, because she clearly was.
There's no evidence for the multiple personality bullshit though.
>>343828817
But even if he went back in time he'd still be trapped in the shelter right? He rescues akane and junpei from the outside right?
Am i retarded?
>>343828947
That thread won't get much bigger. That's like most of the porn without the rabbit.
>>343829037
You missed the files, D team doesn't get one but that one is really obvious.
>>343829037
Read the files
I don't remember much of 999, but wasn't zero the one who killed all the other the organizers of the first nonary game?
>>343828754
>or you could just, you know, play the game and form your own opinion?
I put too much into the first two games and didn't want to do it again if it had the same kind of ending. Sorry. :c
>>343828806
Welp, thanks chum.
>>343828648
>anon, I...
Just break it to me. I went no spoilers for the first two and with the other responses to me here I don't think I'll be playing this one anyway.
>>343828969
Senpai stop replying to the bait
>>343829092
It's for more, ya dummy There are commissions coming soon.
>>343821794
Fun
>>343829197
sorry I meant ace instead of zero
>>343828969
Because its obvious you didnt even play the game.
>>343829212
It ends pretty cliffhangery
Last image is literally one of the characters holding a gun to Zero's head
Honestly I spoiled the entire game for myself when I came here high the day before PC release, still bought it and enjoyed it. It's a fun game. Just appreciate the fact that it was even made.
The ending is kind of lame with an entirely new mechanic being introduced literally 20 minutes before the end and having a major impact on the story, but the rest was fun. Definitely goes 999 > VLR > ZTD though
>>343828206
>unusual situation for which she prepared for 45 years
>b-but fragmented info
All she needed to know is that there was going to be another nonary game and to listen to Sigma. And she was able to live stream sudoky years ago when her esper powers sucked.
>>343829197
>>343829306
Both.
Zero might put the blame on Ace but Zero is the one who manipulated him into it.
>>343829571
Ace is ultimately the one who actually does it
Do you blame the snail or Mira
>>343829469
>It ends pretty cliffhangery
Make way for ZE4: Kyle's Konundrum.
>>343829571
>Ace was 1 because he was the first Zero in the sequence.
>If Akane is Zero 1 then Ace is Zero 0
why is everyone except Carlos, Sigma and Phi so selfish
>>343829048
Holy fuck how did Carlos come up with that? It's literally batman-tier planning.Where the fuck did he go in the VLR timeline? He's not even mentioned during that game
>>343829763
Because they are done playing the action hero...
>>343829858
So basically become Junpei.
>>343829879
He's executed along with the rest of C-team as a result of the vote
They mention it a couple of times, anon
>>343829705
Kyle will do a guest appearance
We all know absolutely that Zero Escape 4 will be a Third Person Shooter with Junpei and Seven as the protagonists.This idea is way too perfect, fuck the anon who originally posted this for reminding me it will never happen.
wait what someone explain the 2carlos meme to me
having just completed the game i avoided threads beforehand so im out of the loop
>>343829657
A gastropod's motives are not comparable to a human's
>>343829879
probably died from radical 6 or refused to help in order to take care of his sister
>>343829705
There's a point where 9 people trapped in a facility forced to do escape puzzles by someone with a gas mask to prevent catastrophes has gotten old and I think we finally reached it.
>>343829139
>>343829171
>>343829196
why would you put this in the files? barely seems real.
>>343829879
Bullied so hard he committed sudoku.
>>343829879
That's the timeline where C-team got execute. Recall that D-team tried to blow a hole in the wall, and that Q-team was alive and well until they were all put to sleep.
>>343829964
C-team got out during the VLR timeline though.
>>343829858
>Join detective agency
>>343829706
There was no Zero in the first nonary game
>>343829879
Probably went home to become a family man and either died during R6 plot device or didn't bother helping Akane anymore.
>>343824831
What if Akane saw him on the way out and killed him in a freakout?
>>343829879
My theory is that Carlos's "10 MONTHS" was Uchi's way of justifying how Junpei and Akane lived on in the VLR timeline.
I hate saying it, but Carlos probably died in that one. Probably shifted over to another self as well.
>>343829879
Went home and started a Slice of Life with his sister
>>343829931
>>343829914
>that timing
>>343829996
As a result of using the transporter, Carlos traveled back to before the game began. That means that he's in existence both at the site of the transporter, and at home with Maria.
Therefore, throughout the entire game, two Carloses exist.
>>343830058
No, C-team from an alternate timeline got out due to SHIFTing and transporting.
>>343829763
One is a serial killer
One watched his father strangle his younger brother to death and then threw the body into a lake
One is grumpy
One needs the D
One suffered from spousal abuse (although I would consider her pretty selfless)
One is a child (he stayed behind for Delta though, how is he not pure as fuck?)
And one is complex
>>343829931
That was the joke he was making, yes
>>343829515
I see you're still trying to force your headcanon here even though people already explained it to you in the last thread.
>>343830189
That would be retardedbut you never know in these games.
>>343829974
>third person shooter
You guys do mean a RE-clone with tank controls, right?
>>343829469
Cliffhangery is an overstatement. Whether Zero dies or not isn't really important by that point. Everything he set out to do was completed. The only thing left unresolved is whether or not the extinction of humanity is prevented.
And the ending was fine. That mechanic you complain about was hinted at since, at the very earliest, the decontamination room scenes. It just didn't get explained until then.
>>343828475
>Also do Junpei and Akane get a good end? This is also pretty important to me. :3
I am also interested in this.
at least we can agree that Akane is an horrible leader if she freaks out at the first problem and always needs someone else to save her
>>343830332
More like people are still defending Uchi's bad writing.
>>343829974
So the way to escape in ZE4 is to see who can take 9 bullets without dying?
>>343830460
and that is why based Carlos was the leader.
>>343830416
the same mechanic that was a plot element in VLR that gets dropped with no explanation
speaking of Blick Winkel, is he gonna stream this meme game as well?
>>343830457
Almost
>>343816557
His motives were..
>>343830490
More time passes more people leave these threads leaving behind only the die hard fans so don't expect to find people agreeing with you
Damn.... I guess we cant do much in this timeline huh?
>>343830637
Don't care. 4chan isn't supposed to be a hug box.
>>343830618
...similar to termite mounds. Would you like me to explain?
>>343830416
>And the ending was fine
Eh. I didn't like the MIND HACK and ALIEN TRANSPORTER bullshit. Felt like very convenience plot devices that were simply handwaved.
As a whole ZTD felt more convoluted and yet less cohesive than the previous two entries. I'm inclined to believe that Uchi was trying to outdo his previous two games in TWEESTS and the quality suffered for it.
>>343830637
I wonder how the 999/VLR "remakes" will affect the population of these threads.
>>343830618
Ensure the future of humanity
>I save 2 billion people using the Radical 6 plan
>Or I create a timeline where this assholes can ensure the survival of al people on earth (true ending)
He's a chill guy
>>343830637
>muh hugbox
Pathetic.
As a fan of the series I'll be here and won't be defending bad writing until the very end.VLR is still the best ZE game.
>>343818706
He's an old man about to die even with his powers I doubt he would live long enough to find out that information. And it definitely was more about getting them all together in the right mind set rather than training them look at Junpei in the VLR timeline he fucking becomes a garbage man.
Do we know when the terrorist attack would occur that would start the war?
Was there any real purpose to building the quantum computer other than tocreate sean and facilitate the game?
The Q&A will fix everything right guys?
>>343830856
Yes please.
>>343830970
Was there any real purpose to any of the other fantastic elements than to serve the game?
not really.
>>343830572
>Almost
That sounds like a no to me.
So how bad is it? I actually liked the "bad" ends of 999 more then the good one since it gave some semblance of a reason for them not meeting again/closure.
>>343830970
Complex
Motives
>>343831004
>This will be explained in ZE4. I appreciate your support!
>>343830234
>One watched his father strangle his younger brother to death and then threw the body into a lake
>Everyone else gets teamed with persons sympathetic to their well being
>Get put in team with a carnage clean up bot and someone who's already plotting to kill you
Eric had a hard life
>>343831054he got her, and they're going to get married after they save the world from a terrorist that will wipe out humanity in ze4. Please look forward to it :^)
>>343831054
It's definitely a happy endingthey get engagedbut it's not much because Uchi ran out of money and had to put the epilogues into text files
>>343830540
Carlos is unintentionally hilarious in the meta.
>Is the black sheep character because background doesn't fit into the story whatsoever (be it VLR, 999, or the snail thing)
>Tragic backstory just made him a better person (even if he got his dumbass "I gotta save people!" tunnel-vision from it)
>Is literally just a random guy that can SHIFT
>Still gets to be leader and no one questions it
>Gets to make the final decision
Can we at least agree Zero was good until the end?
>>343831190
>>343831250
Oh, okay then. I can be happy with that. Really didn't know if all the cuck stuff was /v/ being /v/ or something in the story.
>>343830970
It was original Sean's dream and he probably had some theory that helped building it since he said something like "finally your dream is realized" when reveleaing it.
It was also needed to calculate all the possible outcomes since Delta can't shift and like you said control stuff in the various timelines thus facilitating the game
>Clover not even mentioned
They just left her in the freezer didn't they. Alice too but fuck her.
Well, Junpei turned into a complete emo kid and hooked up with Akane anyway, so she'd probably just Sudoku anyway.
While I admit VLR Clover wasn't that great, 999 Clover deserved a second chance. Akane is literally a sociopath and I'm half convinced that all of her emotions are just as phony as Mira's.
>>343831138
>get dragged into a death game for no reason
>literally only there because your mother was murdered and you accidentally started dating her killer
>everyone looks down on you because you only talent is making icecream
>>343831359
bro theymack on each other while using junpei's body parts to solve puzzles
>>343830868
>33%
FUCK THAT JUKEBOX HOW IN THE HELL WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO SEE THAT?
>>343831402
akane literally chimped out any time junpei died wtf are you talking about
Even compared to the morphogenetic field and time travel stuff in 999 & VLR, I still think Uchi went overboard with this one.
>ANCIENT ALIENS
>CLONING & TELEPORTATION DEVICE
>MIND HACKING
>QUANTUM COMPUTER THAT SEES EVERY POSSIBLE HISTORY
>>343831430
>no post-credits scene like Avengers with them sitting around eating Eric's ice cream looking exhausted
>>343831509
Why didn't she murder Mira for causing her parent's death a gain?
>>343831561
But why wouldn't expect that since all the fuckery introduced with VLR.
>>343831402
>They just left her in the freezer didn't they. Alice too but fuck her.
Well there isn't much purpose bringing either of them up. They were in reserve for VLR.
So wait. is;
>>343831473
or
>>343831509
right? Seems contradictory.
I remember when people gave shit to Clover for going on a killing spree when his brother died and now everyone defends Akane that literally did the same with even LESS reasons to act that way.
Akanefags are the worst
>>343831656
bro dont spoil ZE4 ffs
>>343831561
Mind hacking was funny at least. Just the dumbest name ever, like a child came up with it.
>>343831752
Because no one likes Clover other then pedofags and moon people.
>>343831761
>ZE4
>ZE: The Final Chapter
>ZE World
>ZE: Sister Location
Has Uchikoshi gone too far?
>>343831272
>Pic related
That "comfort level" shit still makes me side-eye that part.
>>343831752
But anon, Clover going on a killing spree solidified her as 999's best girl.And Mira is ZTD's best girl.
>>343831848
Clover is too old.
>>343831907
>>343830868
Oops, intended to reply to this one.
>>343831656
>killed Eric's parents
>kills Junpei and dismembers him
>ruined Akane's life by getting her parent's killed
>killed original Sean
>kills Phi, Sigma and Diana
They all remember all the timelines, they all know she willingly did all this and yet they let her go. But OH NO, let's kill Zero because he's the bad guy.
>>343832136
Why wasn't the final decision Akane pointing the gun at Mira?
>lol i mind hacked uI wasn't exactly expecting a masterpiece but damn, I'm mad as fuck Kyle was never even mentioned
>>343832136
Yeah but Mira was only able to do all of those things because of the snail. It all traces back to that damn snail!
>>343831907
>That crazy cat lady foreshadowing.
>>343832136
How they just let some of the really bad people go in the endings of the two games is kinda shit. Ace in first one and Dio in second. No reason not to kill them for what they have done.
>>343829428Is Delta a weaboo?
>>343831561
Aliens is really the only one that feels like an outlier, and even then I can't say I had that much of a problem with it, especially when it only transports and recreates the data. There's at least a catch to using it, it's just that Carlos doesn't give a fuck about killing his alts off.
>SUPER VIRUSES
>MARS COLONY
>INDISTINGUISHABLE AI
>ESPERS
>ANTIMATTER REACTORS
>SCHRODINGER'S CAT
>CULTS
Nothing introduced in ZTD feels like it jumped the shark imo. Mind-hacking is a shitty esper ability, although I do feel like it was poor attempt of circumventing ???'s absence from the plot. The quantum computer isn't that unbelievable when you consider what Sigma accomplished in 40-50 years, while Delta had probably twice that amount of time.
>>343832367
Ace is in jail.
>>343832374
The entire base is bootstrapped. He read the minds of people that had been there in some timeline and built it to be identical. Time itself is a weeb.
>>343832279
he was mentioned though
>>343832482
Oh. Super. Jail. In a world where he had children kidnapped and burned alive and there are entire secret societies build around stuff like that.
>>343832709
What do you think straight killing him would be better life in prison isn't a nice time.
>>343830947
999
>best tone
>best original music
>best art style
>tightest narrative
VLR
>best puzzles
>AB games
>best twists
>best original characters
>ZTD
>animation isn't complete garbage
>>343830856
I don't remember the termite mound bit. I don't have the means to replay 999 or VLR
>>343828741
>hurr durr shoot arrows at Q team
>no one questions why Q doesn't have a picture
>>343833069
Go look up the tenmyouji ending for VLR if you forget.
>>343832647
When? I migh have missed this
>>343833289
The timeline where Mira kills Sigma, Phi and Diana. K is only mentioned in passing.
