>Hardest difficulty is not unlocked from the start.
>defeat final boss
>get the best items in game
>game ends
>no new game +
>can't use those items ever
>Hardest difficulty is automatically triggered in-game if you're doing well enough
>Caring about highest difficultly
Yay. My weapon does half damage and enemies have double health. So fun.
>start on highest difficulty possible
>struggle
>game automatically lowers the difficulty with a condescending notification
>>343808682
As someone who's pretty masochistic when it comes to vidya difficulty I fucking hate this.
I love playing games at their hardest, even if it's bullshit tier but having to play on a lower difficulty first kills it for me.
>>343809036
which games actually have different enemy behavior on harder difficulties? i can only think of killing floor 2 off the top of my head
>>343809036
>Playing shit games.
>>343809036
Reminder hard difficulties are usually the developers original vision for a game before publishers and marketers get their grubby little hands on the game then they tone it down to what you call "normal"
>you die a couple times on normal
>the game notifies you that easy mode has been unlocked
>>343809350
The Tales series
>Game has no difficulty option
>>343809350
Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2. On high difficulties the AI micros the shit out of its units. WC3 on hard and SC2 campaigns on brutal actually live up to their name.
>>343809350
Diablo 2. This is most evident with any enemies that have a tendency to run away in normal difficulty.
>>343808970
Name TWO (2) games that do this
>>343809886
Max Payne and The Last Remnant.
ez
>>343809886
Infamous
>>343808682
> Can only save a limited number of times during a mission.
>>343810959
Reminds me that I still have to finish Dead Space 2 on Hardcore.
>he doesn't play normal than hard to experience both
>>343811283
With a backlog as long as mine you don't have time for replays.
The best kind of high difficulty is when the game changes the enemy types spawned and/or their AI behavior, or when it lowers both your own AND the enemy's defense. Also, bonus points for extra bosses and challenges.
>>343809350
Ninja Gaiden on the xbox hueg comes to mind. That shit is like an entirely different game when you jump into master ninja mode from normal difficulty.
>>343809756
They get bonus resource rate though
>>343808970
God Hand and Resident Evil 4.
>hard mode unlocks after you beat the main game
>it's actually a whole new campaign with completely redesigned bosses/levels and even an extra level and completely new final boss
>you unlock NG+ after that
>>343811283
I don't see the point of doing that unless the normal mode has content you can't experience in hard mode, which literally never happens and is usually the other way around.
I just pick the hardest difficulty from the get-go if I am given the option. I ain't no babby, I wanna get destroyed so I can savor my victory even better.
>>343809590
>its frustratinglyeasy.
>>343812001
Wait, resident evil 4 seriously does that? I never knew.
>completing hard mode doesn't give you the bonus material from the lower difficulties
>>343812142
Which are some games that do this? Genuinely interested.
>>343812361
There is issue when the games simply it's pants on retarded balance
>playing Dark Messiah on Normal
>a breeze with occasional spike of hard sections.
>decide to play Hard see the differences
>Enemies are so buffed that you can't even kill them unless you got the adrenaline thing
>Everything is a sword/magic/arrowsponge
>expect you.
>mfw
>>343812624
>completing the hardest mode gives you literally nothing
>>343812681The game I was thinking of was Kero Blaster. I don't know if any others do it.The NG+ also has three creepy secret levels you can get into since you have a few weapons you wouldn't normally have at that point.
>>343808885
That's stupid as fuck, why even bother
>>343812697
Yeah Dark Messiah on hard is complete anti-fun bullshit, which I honestly would be okay with if it at least gave you something for your troubles, but instead it's >>343812841
>>343812681
Valkyrie profile does something like this too, hard mode and normal/easy mode have different levels, bosses and even characters from what i remember.
>enjoying game, but....
>so far has easier than expected
>debating I set difficulty too low
>hit a level I find more challenge and have to restart a few times
>suddenly really start to enjoy game and get into how I could use the mechanics differently>"Did you know you can lower the game's difficulty at any time from the options menu"?
>>343809121
This is worse than this
>>343808970
and needs to stop
>>343809121
>game calls you a wimp for playing on easy
>game calls you a no-life for playing on hard
>get a weapon after beating hard
>use it to get another weapon on harder
>need another weapon to get to hardest
>it's inside a secret room that can only be found halfway through easy
>it only appears if you've beaten normal under a certain amount of time
>>343809886
God hand obviously does this.
>>343810959
Hitman blood money did this.
>>343810813
really?
>>343811283
>normal
ree
>>343814782
that's like fundamentally the only way it can be challenging
>game has three difficulty levels
>main character taunts you no matter which level you select
>optional semi-secret challenge mode available in all difficulties
>there is actually a reward for beating the optional mode
God Hand really is a masterpiece
>>343815156
>I never used the save feature through my play through what so ever
I felt like an idiot restarting who whole level for a small mistake.
>>343813876
>mfw ayane belittles you throughout the whole game if you pick the lowest difficulty in ninja gaiden black, which is only unlocked after dying like a trillion times on the first level
>she calls you her dog and aids you by sending you ezmode items and shit
>Game has post-post-game content
>>343815473
It is, I feel better knowing I bought the game for shits and giggles and went in blindly and got blown away by the difficulty and content.
Why can't modern games do this?
>TFW we will never get good games after the ps2 gen.
>beat the game on the highest difficulty
>doesn't unlock an extra, ultra-bullshit difficulty
Maybe I've been spoiled but fuck this.
>game has secret ultra hard difficulty only unlocked by cheats
>>343812456
sleepimg dogs
>4 difficulties are unlocked from the start, one difficulty is locked
>3/4 of the unlocked difficulties are in white text, the last one is in red just like the locked difficulty
WHY THO
>>343817147
>he does not know the difference between very hard and hell difficulty
>>343817871
I'm talking about Doom4
the first 3 unlocked difficulties are white and the last unlocked one is red
RED MEANS LOCKED
ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE WHITE OPTIONS
WHY WOULD I ASSUME DIFFERENTLY
>>343818047
There's a giant fucking lock next to Ultra-Nightmare, Nightmare doesn't have a lock. And why not just scroll down just to check?
>beat the game in normal difficulty and you get Game+
>it's just better equipment and harder enemies, some new enemies too but they're basically the same guys but with new skills
>beat Game+ to unlock Game++
>it's the same thing again
>thing start to get really hard if you don't have very specific builds or if you don't use the broken class of the game
>if you beat Game++ you can replay it from the start
>why
>but it's not over. you can do a challenge on Game++ to get Game+++, 8 times up to Game++++++++++
>it's the same thing but you die in 2 shots, better weapons tickle enemies
>>343818216
Yes there's a lock but honestly why wouldn't you assume it's locked? I don't sit at every menu screen for 10+ minutes, I see three white difficulties, two red ones and the last red one has a lock on it. This implies red ones are locked and white ones are unlocked.
Really fucked up thing for the devs to do
>>343813486
This was me with Mgs Revengeance. Game was piss easy until I fought sundowner, and needed to start taking more strategic approaches and actually bot just spam left click.
>>343818478
>I can't take 2 seconds to scroll through the difficulties
They made it like that because they wanted to emphasize how hard it is compared to the other ones, they didn't account for people like you who have no patience to press a key 3 times.
>>343818878
Tons of people missed it, most of my friends included.
Games follow rules
In almost every game red means locked
It's ubiquitous.
I know they wanted to show that the difficulty was harder but are you honestly saying that orange or yellow wouldn't have been a better choice?
>>343818250
Ratchet n Clank?
>>343818250
man I wish Souls did NG after + better
>>343814920Yes.
>>343819327
>>343819480
i was talking about Borderlands 2. it's such a fucked up thing i didn't know other games did it
>>343809419
>Game insults you for picking easy mode
>>343819121
No I'm pretty sure you and your friends are just retarded. I'm not the guy you're talking to but I know at least 6 people who played it after getting it during the sale and not one of them thought Nightmare was locked, because it doesn't have a fucking lock next to it.
I'm sorry if your autistic brain makes you incapable of seeing anything but colors, but it's definitely not "tons of people"
>>343818636
>playing MGR with KBM
wew lad
>>343809350
Metal Gear Rising
Bayonetta
>>343809036
spoted the casual filth
>>343818636
>playing any character action game with KB&M
Big mistake.
>>343809419
>die a few times to a shitty platforming section
>"Would you like to switch to easy mode? (Only combat will be affected)"
Fuck off God of War
>>343809812
talking about Diablo 2, does anyone here plays the Median XL mode? it's really fun but fuck it's hard as shit
>Normal difficulty
>game is a shooting gallery with barely any challenge
>Hard Difficulty
>Enemies have a billion HP and kill you in one hit
>>343808885
>RPG with character customization that has 3 regular endings
>game also has NG+
>in order to get the secret 4th true ending you have to clear the 3 previous endings with the same character, without being able to respec and leveling up after one playthrough is slow as fuck so you're stuck with the same playstyle forever
>game is linear as fuck and the only different thing in the separate endings is the very short second last level
Guess the game.
>7 levels that take AT LEAST one hour each
>beating game unlocks a harder difficulty
>6 difficulties
>12 characters
>200 hours on just one character and its not even fun now
AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
>>343818250
what is borderlands 2
>>343808682
>hard is actually easy and easy is actually hard
>>343822973
What's the world like?
>>343823645
What games even do this?
>>343823645
name three
>>343823710
Cyberpunk
>>343823645
What is every rythym game after you get used to hard?
>>343823830
Valkyrie Profile. Easy difficulty has technically easier enemy encounters, but also locks all of the good gear and recruitable characters, turning the game harder. It also has locked main plot.
>>343809350
I know some of the Megaman games do this
>>343808885
Fire Emblem does this shit. Last level of FE7 gives you all these awesome overpowered weapons, and you only get to use them for the final bosses.
>>343823830
Stalker
>>343808885
>Having to beat the last boss in order to get the best Items
I love souls games but If i wanna super OP weapons I should be able to get them in 1 playthrough
>>343808885
>game has ng+
>all your old items become obsolete in 2 levels
Fuck that.
>there are four difficulties
>the first 3 difficulties are all do-able with relative ease, the third one just requires a little bit of experience
>in the highest difficulty your teammates are a bigger threat than the enemy
>you go down in 10 hits
>there are dozens of quick and dangerous enemies
>you'll end up dying by a missed shotgun shot by your teammates
>>343822973
What is E.Y.E. And you don't need to respec you fucking Jian you can clear the game with lvl10 cyber legs and the explosive sword after one play through
Just finished DOOM 20 minutes ago. Fucking shit fuck the game was too easy even on the hardest difficutly that youre allowed to pick at the start.
I didn't even realize that I was fighting the last boss of the game. Was expecting at least a phase 2 or something.
I was stunned when the credits rolled
>>343827496
Yeah man I know what you mean. I still had a fun as fuck time with it tho, it just was fun as fuck
>>343809350
God Hand
>>343827606
It was fun. Took my 8hours and 45 mins to complete it
>>343822973
I can up this
>Conception 3
>Have to finish the game, literally, 7 times to unlock the harem ending in the 8th playthrough
Thank god for the save system working like it does, the game is not even that good to finish it once without forcing yourself at some points
>>343827397
Yeah, luckily the default weapons are already really good, but I put most of my points into fuckingHackingand so didn't really get to use any of the cool spells. In my third playthrough I just ended up spamming sprint, stealth, medkit and power conversion in order to get through the drag.
>Turn based game
>Hardest difficulty makes enemies literally impossible to defeat unless you are a high enough level
>>343827869
>Conception 3
whoops meant 2, but whatever
>>343824163
>Love Live School Idol Festival
>play a couple of songs on Expert
>notes fucking everywhere going fast
>get full combo
>proceed to play a song on Easy because I leveled up and need to get the full combo and score rewards of the new song I unlocked
>1 lonely note moves at snail speed
>miss
>Hardest difficulty is only available in NG+
Stop it, Ace Combat. I want to play on Ace and unlock planes and weapons as I go.
>>343808682
Lunatic+ FE awakening.
The most bullshit 200hours of my life.
>you can effectively enter the highest level of NG+ on your first playthrough
>>343812487
It doesn't. It just adjusts the amount of ammo and herb drops from crates and enemies depending how you do.
>>343809590
Every Rockstar game
>ARPG
>hardest difficulty combat involves dodge roll kiting then sneaking in 1-3 hits then dodge rolling etc
>all difficulty is easily circumvented just by playing the game in co-op, since literally zero enemies are designed to handle the possibility of fighting more than one player
>>343808682
reminder that only autistic neckbeards play on hard the first playthrough
>>343830135
Are there ANY Souls bosses that don't shit themselves when doing co-op?
>>343830509
>He wants his first playthrough to be an unchallenging braindead bore-fest
>>343830610
having enemies turn into meatsponges is an unchallenging braindead bore-fest
>>343827958
You only need 55 hacking to get all augments, and that's about it.
>>343809756
because they literally cheat
>>343809886
La-mulana
>>343830704
>playing shitty games
>>343809419
T-thanks Devil May Cry.
>>343830848
i guess the majority of games are shit then :^)
>>343830965
Welcome to /v/
>>343830563
Bed of Chaos ;^)
>Harder difficulty just gives enemies more HP and DPS
>>343830704
might as well play easy then
>game mocks you for the decisions you make
>gets more butthurt the more you go through the ones it doesn't like
>>343831890
Stanley Parable?
>>343831119
>The worst boss among all of the souls games is actually good at something
I didn't think I would see the day
>you have to beat the game on the hardest difficulty availble to play the game on real hardest difficulty
WHY? I don't wanna play through this shit again (also no replay value)
>>343809036
>hardest difficulty in shooters
>enemies damage increases but so does yours
Literally turns into point and click if you know how to play games.
Alternatively,
>enemies become bullet sponges while damage stays the same
>ammo for each map is decreased
>>343832232
>worst boss
>not lol2cat
>not the gank squad
Trying too hard is better than not trying at all.
>>343832503
>hardest difficulty is one hit kill mode for everyone
Sounds like it could be a lot of fun if done right.
>>343832593
>lol2cat
>The fucking kings pets
Jesus Christ, how did I forget that bullshit?
>>343832873
There's a mode in Devil May Cry called Heaven or Hell which is exactly that.
>>343812681
Kero Blaster. Normal, hard and new game + are all completely different games.
>>343833017
man I replayed DS2 and fuck the cat and the snow area, I didn't even bother getting to 2cat because of those shitty horses, but having 2 of those bullshit tracking and hitbox things sounds horrible
>easy/normal mode is too easy
>hard is too hard
>>343832593
2kat is at least legitimately hard including a new gimmick added to it. Worst boss really goes to gank squad
>>343833061
Hell or Hell is the better mode since only you die in one hit not enemies
>games sequels are not very hard anymore
>>343808682
>Hardest difficulty is paid DLC.
https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/external/auth/login.action?returnURL=https://secure.eu.playstation.com/psnauth/PSNResponse/blog/
>>343833017
>>343833182
>>343833280
Literally the only boss in the series i haven't beat solo, simply because it's such an insult. It's not even just laziness, they actively went out of their way to do something fucking stupid to make it worse.
>right, this is the last DLC, we need to make a good final impression
>okay guys the Ivory King is a beast but some people will do the bonus boss last we need to make this one count
>GUYS I HAVE THE BEST IDEA
>LET'S TAKE THE BOSS WE MADE EARLIER THAT WAS BALANCED AROUND THERE BEING ONLY ONE OF THEM
>AND THEN WE
>GUYS
>AND THEN WE TAKE THE BOSS THAT YOU'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO FIGHT ONE OF
>AND WE MAKE THEM FIGHT TWO OF THEM AT ONCE
>THIS IS GONNA BE EVEN BETTER THAN THAT "LITERALLY JUST 3 NPCS IN A ROOM" FIGHT YOU GUYS LET ME MAKE LAST TIME
>>343824689
Explain?
>>343823830
SimCity 4, thanks to AI bugs.
>>343827958
>he invested in hacking
You madman!
>Beat the game
>Loading your save brings you back to before you fought the final boss, but with an extra area unlocked
>You get an accessory from the extra area that doesn't seem to do much
>But wearing it during if you go back and fight the final boss again gets you the true ending
>>343833864
Which game?
>>343827496
>didn't realise you were fighting the final boss
>spider mastermind was the final boss of the original final episode of DOOM
>also the final boss of DOOM 2016
Come on son, don't make your age so obvious
>>343833525
Those areas were never meant to be soloable, and they were just a demo of sorts for people that didn't have the expansion, hence why the complete lack of effort.
I don't get why people never realized this.
>>343809272
The first time I did it I almost dropped the game.
The only reason I didn't is because I have actually beaten the game in normal to carry all power ups necessary.
>>343834085
Dragon Quest 8
There's a ton of other good shit you can get in the extra area too, and a secret boss you can fight a bunch of times with different gimmicks to get special rewards.
>>343815568
Your memory is shit or you are taking a piss. You cannot play it from the beginning on the easiest mode. You unlock "Ninja Dog" difficulty if you die 3 times just in the first level on normal. If you chose to play on it you wear her pink sash throughout the game. She barley talks to throughout the game as it is and difficulty doesn't affect what she says making her belittle you.
>>343809419
Shin Megami Tensei IV, you bloody bastard.
>>343834227
>Its on android
Will pirate later.
>>343834720
Do yourself a favor and emulate the PS2 version, the phone port runs like garbage
Or wait for the 3DS version to get translated since it has some extra shit but we don't have a date on that yet
>>343824689
how exactly?
>>343833864
>beat Star Ocean 3
>loading your save brings you back to before you fought the final boss, but with an extra area unlocked
>clearing the extremely hard extra area (which is made so that entering it literally increases the difficulty level by one) unlocks another 100 floor extra area
>clearing the 100 floor dungeon gets you a key item that you can use in a random old area to summon a crossover special boss fight
>every single attack by the boss is 1HKO, the boss has AoE attacks that almost cover the entire arena and has so much HP it takes around 20-30mins to beat
>to be able to reasonably beat the boss you have to spend hours crafting a weapon that essentially makes the main character invincible
>boss drops a shitty staff for the shitty unrelated caster / buffer party member and there's nothing else, not even a cutscene
>>343808682
>the difficulty levels aren't called easy, normal, hard, etc.
>they're named after which character you're going to use the most
>hardest difficulty is in front of the rest
>>343834886
I know I will sound retarded but can't we emulate 3DS yet?
Its technically possible but what's stopping us from making an emulator?
>>343832232
I'd say Ancient Dragon and Cool Ranch Smelter are worse.
Maybe Darklurker?
>>343835050
>difficulty is based on which characters you pick
>order is Medium, Hard, Easy, Gimmick instead of a proper order
>>343835137
>what's stopping us from making an emulator?
Nothing. Look up Citra.
>>343835137
There is one, Citra, but it's kinda janky
You're better off picking up a 3DS or 2DS cheap and slapping some CFW to it. You can download games directly to your 3DS for free at this point, it's hilarious.
>>343835284
Fuckin' Sonic Heroes.
>Game was flawed but still quite good
>Nonetheless just got absolutely destroyed by reviewers
What game?
>>343833628
>>343834910
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. difficulty works so that easier difficulty settings make everyone and everything, not only the player character a lot more bullet spongier which is pronounced even harder at the start of the game where you only have low damage, inaccurate peashooters and limited ammo.
Master difficulty is the opposite and makes everything die fast, which the game is properly balanced around.
>>343835570
Mighty number 9?
>the hate the game because its a meme meme
>>343808885
>Grinded for this in the original KH2
>Have to be on the final level to get the final components to craft
>Craft it, beat the final boss
>Game ends
fan fucking tastic
>>343835570
Umbrella Corps.
>>343835570
God Hand?
>>343835786
At least it makes your fights at the Coliseum easier (as well as the Lingering Will's one)
>>343835596
Hm, never knew that, will have to try that.
>crutch character drops off in performance, becoming one of the most useless in the game for the entire second half of the game
>game gives them the best weapon in the game to make them useful right before the final boss
>>343835896
I've never seen a good game get trashed like God Hand. I don't understand the hate.
>Collect special weapons throughout the game
>Getting all of them unlocks a harder optional boss
>Beating her unlocks the ability of those weapons
>Every time you kill an enemy, those weapons become stronger
>By the end of the game, you really shouldn't have been able to kill enough that they will be your best weapons
>But hey they would be fun to use on NG+!
>Their unlocked ability doesn't carry over so they're useless and unpowered
>>343835570
>What is Yoshi's New Island
>>343835745
"Quite good" is a bit generous, MN9 is MM5 level "okay".
>>343835975
True. I just can't find the will to grind in KH2:FM for it again, especially since numerous grinding methods were patched out.
>>343836091
Literally one of the best games I ever played on the ps2.
Can't see a single reason to really hate it,
Sure camera is shit and some graphical issues but the game is challenging and the boss ideas were unique and fun and the game had quality humour.
>NG+ in a JRPG
>Enemies don't even scale up in level, but you keep all your levels and items
>>343836519
>Sure camera is shit
Most cameras were still shit even in the PS2 era. People were still really trying to figure out solid camera mechanics in 3D environments still.
>>343836519
>Sure camera is shit
I'd disagree, it complements the gameplay well and never works against it.
>>343836257
>Can't fast grind to 99 at the peak of pride rock anymore
FUUCK
I've since done a 100% level 1, crit clear but when I first figured out there weren't any good ways to level up fast I got pretty made.
>>343836815
>>343836950
For a person who played GTA and newer games before stumbling upon God hand that's my only point to criticise,
The game is a perfect 9 on my book.
Can't see any reason for reviewers to shit on the game.
>the story was meh I guess, never noticed it really.
>but I did enjoy beating the shit out of demons.
>>343822830
>ultimate vault hunter mode
Would you play my game if I put over an hour worth of condescending voice recordings telling you to quit? Like, every time you die you'd hear someone telling you how shit you are and that you should turn the difficulty down or quit.
>>343837696
Surprisingly not that bad in co-op, even with shitty weapons you just pick up from whatever. Single player is fucking unplayable though.
Hell the DLC areas go back to seemingly normal HP scaling.
>>343809121
>pick normal because I care more about just playing and enjoying the story answer or looking for a challenge
>game actually brings up a message telling me it's going to upgrade to hard because I'm kicking too much ass.
>mfw
>enemy wears multiple colors of an armor set
>the enemy only drops one color
BRAVO FROM
>>343831119
Wrong. 2 players go after each wing, and the third goes for the heart.
>>343808885
>old pre patch
>divinity original sin
>defeat final boss
>see epics that drop
>cant move to pick them up
>game fades to ending
>???
>>343811738
I forget if it was 1 or 2 but I remember the second highest difficulty actually being harder because the regular ninjas were replaced with rpg ninjas and they spammed that shit like no tomorrow but on the next difficulty up they went back into non rpg ninjas and by that point you were good enough at the game that not having constant rpg spam made them much easier despite being technically more difficult.
>hardest difficulty is actually faster to play
>hardest difficulty means one shot can kill you or enemies
>>343841745
Thanks MGR:R
>>343841745
>pick hardest difficulty
>suddenly the game transforms from a relatively slow paced bullet spongy slog into one where every encounter is lightning fast and tense where you can be killed immediately for fucking up
>actually have to scout out bases/camps prior to get an idea of layout and enemy patrols
Looking at you STALKER and Metro.
>play yakuza 5
>pick hard because not baby
> play 50 hours
>near end of game, check out trophy list
mfw "play the game on normal without dropping to easy"
> googled, it doesnt unlock on hard mode
kill me
>>343829863
What about Max Payne 3?
>game has a map that keeps track of enemies you spot
When did games get casualised to shit?
>>343841745
>original Hyperdimension Neptunia
>>343842825
>caring about cheevos
>>343809886
most shumps
tlr
god hand
>>343829980
birth by sleep isn't a good game anontry playing 2fm instead
>>343809886
Homeworld
