>8-4 to Handle Localizing NieR: Automata
actually not going to buy it now, it's amazing how all my hype died instantly
http://nichegamer.com/2016/07/04/8-4-handle-localizing-nier-automata/
>>343805193
Didn't they do the first game?
>>343805275
They have changed alot since then, see Drakengard 3's terrible localization or Gunvoltz. Don't forget they were the reason behind Awakening, both Bravely Defaults,Xenoblade X's major dialogue changes
>>343805193
Welp, I guess I can spend my money on some other game now. Fuck 8-4
>>343805667
What on particular was shit about those translations? I just started nier, and it seems ok, but am not far at all to know more
>>343805667
They weren't the guys behind BD, at least try to know what you're talking about
>>343805667
>see Drakengard 3's terrible localization
They only fucked up Zero's tone and nothing else you sperge.
>>343806963
They were, NoA often outsources to 8-4 and they did the first BD and large amounts of text for BS.
>>343807098
>They only messed up the main character who talks constantly and as the biggest plot points
>>343807098
>they only ruined the main character it's not that bad
>>343805193
k
I will still buy it though. If you care about translations that much you would've learned japanese years ago
>>343807517
>shit is my favorite flavor
>>343805193
They used to be ok, whatever happened to their decision making?
>>343807881
Nintendo of America and low budget indie games and shit jrpgs happened
>>343807098
>>343807281
Wtf, I thought Drakenguard 3 was a terrible game. Nier was merely average.
>>343808140
It's not about the game itself
>>343805193
So where to start learning japanese to avoid this shit? Anyone got a guide I can use?
>>343805667
>Don't forget they were the reason behind Awakening, both Bravely Defaults,Xenoblade X's major dialogue changes
Are you saying that it was not NoA's fault but 8-4's fault that those games got censored?
>>343805193
Just wait for some anon to translate the jp version and then compare it to our version. It's a shame but it's better than constantly creating threads just to whine rather than wait to see the scale of the changes
I'm going to import the game even though I don't understand jap enough. I hope there's jap subtitles
>>343808451
it's not that simple dumb ass
>8-4
Jesus Christ. Why them? I still remember how they treated people during the development of MN9. I was really looking forward to this.
>>343809132
>Learn Japanese using resources to learn the language
>Play games in Japanese
What is the matter NoA? Afraid I can't understand the concept of girls wearing swimsuits because it is too Japanese for me?
>>343809132
If you're serious about it you would've learned it years ago anyway
>>343809317
Yeah i'm sure it's their fault and not the shit script of the game
They did the original Nier. It turned out awesome. Let's stop pretending actual Nier fans are dismayed by this.
>>343805193
Well sucks to be you I'll enjoy the experience for both of us I guess.
>>343809491
I was talking about how they interacted with fans and their cavalier way of dismissing and talking down to backers. Plus they're solely responsible for the whole Dina shitstorm.
Incoming 500 posts thread of censorship apologists, implications that dialogue changes are not censorship and general "it's ok when my favourite company does it" posts.
>mfw I really don't care
>>343809132
Thinking this is why you aren't multilingual.
>>343809615
>some of their latest release aren't great even though all of those are indie games with no budget and shit scripts to begin with and NOA games so Nier Automata will be shit too!
That's pretty much how these threads go
Alright, real question here. If you had to hand localisation to a team, who would you hand it to?
>2016 not knowing 日本語、笑う。
>>343805193
>Taro is allowed to make another game
>Nier Automata exists
>It will actually get a western release aka "localization"
>it will not be a 1:1 translation but it will still be released in a language the majority of people on /v/ can understand
They're not going to go in and adjust models so the skirts are longer, make the blood into clear liquid, or screw with anything significant.
They're just going to localize the game for western audiences which means yes some things will not get 1:1 translation but we're not talking Nintendo MEME translation levels of bad. Just a standard localization which the majority of people don't give two shits about.
Sorry my handful of angry weeb friends maybe you guys should just go ahead and learn Japanese at this point if you're going to get this upset over a game actually getting localized in the west.
>>343810139
The Sony guys that did the Yakuza 5 localization
>>343810235
貴様もこそ。
>>343809783
Mighty No. 9 has been their first (and probably only) game where they were more than localizers. And I'll admit, they did a shitty job for a shitty project.
On their official site, their job on Nier 2 is strictly English-to-Japanese translation. And they've proved themselves to be good at that.
>>343810414
tl;dr its only bad when nintendo does it
As long as they don't touch the OST, I can deal with whatever happens
>>343810414
Seriously this.
If you are the kind of person who gets upset over cultural localization and hasn't/"can't" learn Japanese, please purchase a helium tank and end it already.
>>343810668
That's exactly right. Got a problem, Nintoddler?
>>343805193
>8-4
Shit, here we go...
>‘As for localisation, the team working on it is called 8-4. They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions. That’s because there’s a lot of concepts or ideas that only really the Japanese audience would understand. And so the localisation team really went in and made it so that the English native speakers will really enjoy the game’, he adds.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/04/nier-automata-hands-on-preview-i-wanted-to-create-a-game-where-players-would-feel-something-5983324/
>>343809615
/thread
>>343810771
I know.. The best thing is once the game is out give it 3-6months and the most of autistic of them will release an angry pastebin of all the changes so you and I can enjoy the game then learn after what had been tweaked.
It's win win for people who don't give two shits and just want to play great video games.
>>343810669
Who is handling the OST for this one? I won't hold my breath on Takayuki but at the very least Yoshiki is what I hope for. Takayuki would make the game an instant buy and an instant console buy for the game, but he hasn't done anything since the first.
>>343811000
>Just kidding, obviously. In all seriousness, people have nothing to worry about
Yep, after Drakengard 3 and Azure Striker Gunvolt needed to be RETRANSLATED.
Nothing to worry sure.
>>343811000
That sentence was about Nier 1 and noone gave a shit about that translation
>>343810414
>"They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions"
I hope you are right, though. The recent developments have just made me to expect the worst at all times.
>>343810797
You're an idiot. It's bad when both those it. This isn't about console fanboyism, you fucking retard.
I'm a PC user that's about to buy a PS4. And unfortunately the recent news about PS4 best games are looking more like shit. FFXV seems overhyped crap. Nier is going to get a shit localization. Persona5 will have no dual audio, stuck with shitty American South Cal dub.
I really want PS4 to do good but because of you fanatical retards, no one is allowed to criticize. What you idiots don't understand like the SJWs can't, is that criticism is good because it leads to improvement.
/rant Go jump off a rooftop faggot.
>>343810668
Nintendo of America is easily the most family-centric company that 8-4 had worked with, so yes, it's only bad when Nintendo (or occasionally Squeenix) forces changes to ensure parents are upset.
If you're a Nintendo fan, you can't possibly be surprised that this would be the first time NoA has fucked you over.
SPOILER: This game wasn't handled by 8-4 but still got censored. WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE BEHIND THIS?!
>>343810668
Historically speaking ya it's usually only bad when Nintendo does it. Or should I say it's over 9000 my body is memed my friend! All your castles are belong to Toad! ROFL!*
*They're not very good at anything these days it seems. Sorry you haven't come to that realization yet, but thanks for keeping them around in the hopes that they'll change their ways.
>>343809615
This
>>343811174
I'm not saying that the new translation will be 100% good, but Nier was a totally diffrent tier compared to DOD3.
DOD3 is one of the lowest budget rushed square games and Gunvolt is a shitty Indie game. I dooubt Square and Sony will let them make a translation that could ptotentally ruin the game
>>343811313
>WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE BEHIND THIS?!
Nintendoof Europe
>>343809615
So, real Nier fans are actually cretins that bend over censorship. Good to know.
>>343811438
>Gunvolt is a shitty indie game
You clearly have no fucking idea what Gunvolt is you piece of shit.
>>343811092
It's Keiichi Okabe, who did the original Nier ost. It would be a travesty if it was anyone but.
Yep.
Just saw the thread on neofag.
And after the answers here we can officially call this place Neogaf 2.0
I mean, this guy here >>343811278
is straight from there.
Also pic related, a user asking about some kind of agenda about 8-4 WHEN ONE OF THE OWNERS IS A MODERATOR OF NEOGAF >>343811000 (You)
>>343805667
so uhm if I have the Japanese voices enabled and I actually understand what they say, I'm not affected?
>>343805193
is there someone we can complain to to prevent this shit? They fucking demoloish games man
>>343811174
I enjoyed Drakengard3 and Nier's localizations. I also don't understand Japanese so I'll take what I can get.
It could be worse at least it's not being done by fansubbers.
>>343811892
That pic needs to be spread more. It sums up Neofag's policies perfectly.
>>343811174
>Drakengard 3 needed to be retranslated
Why do you fear-mongering faggots keep making shit up?
can we play with japanese + english subs?
>>343811637
Nothing has been censored. You're making shit up now.
Fucking Yoko Taro himself is overseeing it and approving of it. This is still HIS vision, and you kneejerk reactionary fucks are actively hindering it with your stupid shit. YOU are censoring him.
>>343811892
Sure thing kiddo. You're fucking paranoid and you probably don't even give a shit about Nier.
If you actually care about translations that much you would've gone full weeb years ago and learned japanese, but no you're just shitposting as most of /v/
>oh no this guy says the truth, better say he's from neogaf so i fit in right guys?
Why not wait and see if the localization's shit or not before you all get so assmad?
It could be and probably will be fine.
>>343811000
>That’s because there’s a lot of concepts or ideas that only really the Japanese audience would understand.
Note that this is literally what Japanese people believe about their own culture: it is so unique and inscrutable that no foreigner could possibly comprehend it.
Insufferable weebs have taken up this belief as well, with the obvious implication that they love Japan enough to break through this barrier in a way few other foreigners possibly could.
>>343812306
>not through the filter of a localization studio
It's like they don't realize they can just buy the Japanese release of the game of it's that important to them.
>>343812305
Can you just learn japanese?
>i really want that jap dub and i love muh nippon games, but i don't want to learn any other language because i'm retarded
>>343805667
Gunvoltz was cringy as fuck
Dropped, thanks anon.
>>343812503
I like my Japanese games, mango and animus. But fuck no is it so important I'm going to make it a discipline to learn the language. Unless I was planning on spending copious amounts of time there or getting a job related to the Japanese language, it's sad to learn it just to enjoy a bit of media.
>>343809132
You're the dumb ass.
>>343811637
>So, real Nier fans are actually cretins that bend over censorship. Good to know.
What was censored in Nier 1?
>>343808625
8-4 is for the memes. Like Localized Henry and Gregor the TF2 Heavy.
>>343812306
Based Taro
>>343812269
Are you MENTALLY RETARDED?
Yes you are you piece of shit excuse for a human being.
AZURE STRIKER GUNVOLT YOU FUCK
AZURE STRIKER GUNVOLT YOU FUCK
AZURE STRIKER GUNVOLT YOU FUCK
Fucking retarded piece of shit gaffer.
>>343812705
Enjoy shitposting about NoA while true fans can enjoy everything unfiltered.
>>343812705
And that's the mindset most of these people who are complaining have. They're bitching for the sake of bitching. If they truly cared they would have already started learning Japanese and importing the games leaving the rest of us to live with the localizations.
>>343811174
The not robot masters/Mavericks in Gunvolt were pretty bland.
I'd only remember Elise if it had a straight-forward translation.
>tfw you don't even fight Zonda in regular Gunvolt
why
>>343812850
Gestalt was actually less censored, Nier Replicant bleeped out Kaine's cursing.
>>343811892
that person is banned already
>>343808451
http://store.steampowered.com/app/438270/
>>343811706
Gunvolt is an unremarkable MMZ clone with an electric powers MC.
Tumblr Zonda shitposting is the only thing worth remembering about it
>>343805193
Do people not remember that the original Drakengard was censored to the point of outright changing character actions
>>343812386
>kiddo
Fuck you neogaf piece of shit trans nigger. Don't even try it.
>>343812386
shut up elnid, nobody cares about your boycott on any and all localizations that don't conform to your '''''''''standards'''''''''
>>343813450
If you say so
>HBH is retarded /v/irgin
Not surprised Tbh
>>343813163
No one should have to learn another language and fork over extra money just because localizers refuse to do thier jobs properly.
Welp Nier threads forever runied by idiots who don't even care about the game or know what they're talking about
>>343805193
Nice, where can I subscribed to your blog?
>>343813450
The right version makes that character is unnecessarily morbid and makes that character look like a fucking idiot. "Oh, time to kill this dog~! What, you want to take care of it~? Oh, well that's okay, I was just going to kill him because I never possibly considered making him get better~!"
>>343813313
Not yet, but i don't give him/her much time.
>>343813715
>>343813715
Will these threads turn into the new FFXV threads where some idiots call eachotherby twitter and neogaf names?
Fuck off back to /pol/, no one gives a shit
>>343813786
Fuck off apologist. Go suck neofag moderation dick.
>>343813163
That's two entirely different levels of caring. Localisation is an important part of taking any work from one culture to another. Otherwise it wouldn't exist as an industry. How retarded do you have to be to think that localisation doesn't need a certain standard of faithfulness? There have been like ten translations of Les Miserables because it can be that vital. What, am I going to skip all the Waterloo chapters because some cock thought they were arbitrary?
>>343813441
No, because they didn't give a shit about Nier/Drakengard until Nier2 became a PS4 exclusive.
>>343807192
>voice acting ruined my weeb game
What
>>343813450
Keep the freak meme on, Original Honky poster!
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/nichegamer.com/
Please stop ggiving this sad fuck website hits
Oh well, I was only going to play this for the gameplay anyways so I can wait 6 months to a year to feel more confident in my moon reading abilities and just import it.
Don't most Platinum games have all the dialogue in English, anyways? I remember MGR being like that.
>>343805193
Oh wow.
Thanks for the heads-up, cancelled my pre-order.
>>343814254
Why?
>>343814147
Most of Platinum's original games are like that, though Nier Automata (and MGR for that matter) are Japanese in Japan.
>>343813923
Go back to cripplechan you useless, paranoid piece of shit.
>YOU CAN'T CRITIQUE THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE VERSION, JAPAN CAN DO NO WRONG (but they're apparently too stupid for trusting westerners to translate their work)
Sometimes, dubs can improve the original work. Look at Space Dandy, Metal Gear, or Cromartie High. And guess what? Those changes are overseen and approved by the original creators.
>>343813723
>>343813949
Regardless, everyone has known for decades now that the only way to get a 100% unfiltered experience of these games is to import the original version. If you're not willing to even try learning Japanese and whine about localizations then buy the localized game anyway, you're a faggot.
>hurr durr who cares I shouldn't have to learn the language that all of my hobbies are centered around to get the full experience
>>343814458
stop shilling your shitty dead website, nigger
GOODBYE TO THE COMFY THREADS STARRING CUTE 2B.
GOODBYE /V/
>>343813923
>>343813849
>>343813801
>>343813715
>>343813506
>>343813450
>>343813313
>>343812306
>>343811892
Will this turn into another neogaf/twitter drama between a few persons just like the fucking final fantasy threads?
If you like them that much just stay there, this isn't your little forum you can circlejerk on
>>343807192
Well shit, if we're judging 8-4 by the shit Ninty hires them to do, we might as well say Automata is gonna have shitty controls because of Star Fox Zero.
Nintendo shits on everything they touch. That counts for nothing.
>>343813715
>>343813849
literal who and cares
>>343814568
I'm going to miss the comfy Nier/Drakengard threads we used to have
It's all shitposting and console wars now
>>343805193
They're probably going to put pants or shorts below that dress.
>>343810414
>Taro is allowed to make another game
Taro was always the most talented guy around. Cavia was just some low-budget shitshow.
But even so... Drakengard 1 managed to sell well enough to get the number one spot for a while in Japan.
>>343814568
I wonder if we will get a milf version of 2B.
>>343812306
>John liking one of Yoko's tweet
>8-4 liking this one
>>343805193
I hope they give them all really generic American names, make them all speak with neutral American accents and change any/all aspects of Japanese culture in the game to those of Americans.
I hope they outright rape the localization to the point you'd think it was made by Bethesda.
>>343814737
Drakengard threads are still fine, espcially since they don't have at least one thread each day like Automata since E3
These threads should stay rare, but it will never happen again. Most of the people in these threads probably never even played Nier
Is it true that they are going to tweak 2b's design to be more in line with western standards? Some anon said this but I can't find any confirmation.
>>343812306
"I selected them and I am approving of their efforts. If they get it wrong, it is my fault for not communicating my desires to them"
How can one lunatic be so based
I bet Taro is a dream to work for
>>343814472
You assume all of my hobbies are centred around Japanese games. Which is wrong. As is the idea you can assume what anyone's 'no buy' point is. You can easily be critical of something you plan on buying. I think the game, in terms of music and gameplay and general story is likely to be fantastic. Thinking all of that is worth forking over money whilst still criticising the localisation is a completely viable course of action. Faggots like you have to take reactions to the nth degree. A product has some degree of defect? Don't buy it. A ridiculous reason to miss out on something you're going to enjoy.
>>343814893
No, source was his ass
There is nothing to change to begin with, teh costumes are totally fine even shit like Bayo or Nier 1 is more sexual
>>343814609
Nah, somebody just mentioned neogaf and so that site's hawkwatch poured into here to try to shitpost and redirect the topic of discussion away from the OP into and endless cycle of hazy shitposting confusion.
For those of you who don't remember, we were talking about 8-4's recent work and what they might do to Nier 2.
>>343814893
STOP
LISTENING
TO 4CHAN
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>343814737
Exact same shit happened initially with Nier and DoD3 release. E3 just brought the release day content early. We'll go back to 'would you prefer a Hamelin squad or android adventurer spin-off game' threads in no time at all.
>>343814893
>Some anon said this but I can't find any confirmation.
Gee I wonder why
>>343814737
Just ignore it and post boss battle footage and fanart
>>343814874
It makes me worried about what would happen if a Drakengard 4 was to be released if Automata sells well
>Most of the people in these threads probably never even played Nier
Nor care most likely
You retards do realize that the english script still has to go through Taro, right?
Fucking dumbasses
>>343815210
What aboutMemes
>>343815210
You won't ignore it. It will be either this or dicks, and in the end I'll win.
>>343814609
>neogaf/twitter drama
8-4 is from neogaf.
Sorry it's over, they own everything you love.
>Actual serious concern over a game's localization quality
>"These people have never cared about the game"
>"They're just shitposters, just ignore them"
>"This has literally never been a problem in the history of ever so it can't possibly be a problem now"
>"Hey guys instead of actually addressing these concerns let's just laugh at these people and say everything's okay"
Makes you wonder
>>343815271
Hey hey hey
I never played Nier, and I only showed up to Automata threads for Plat
But I'm excited for the world and story Taro is building; half the Platfags here are excited because Plat sucks at storytelling and Taro is amazing at it.
Don't assume that just because someone like me never played Nier (because he was unengaged by the gameplay), he doesn't have respect and admiration for the things its creators did totally right.
I'm glad Taura and co are fans of Nier and are working hard to remain faithful to the things that made it great. I'm glad that the original composer and vocalist are returning. I'm glad Taro is maintaining his string of wacky narratives by basing this game on a stage play he released only in Japan.
And I know well enough to know that radical localization efforts gave us Papa Nier and made the game better, so knowing that the same people are behind this effort actually makes me happy, not nervous.
>>343815581
Yeah, but i don't go there, neither do i talk to them so why should i care?
I'll wait for the translation and that's it no matter how good or bad the latest indie and NOA translations were
>>343815732
>Actual serious concern over a game's localization quality
This is more /pol/tards trying to stir up bullshit. Honestly the article could've been called "NIER BEING LOCALIZED BY MY WIFE'S SON" and the results would be exactly the same.
>>343815741
>respect and admiration for the things its creators did totally right.
>but can't be bothered to suffer through every Drakengard game and Nier because "unengaged by the the gameplay"
I can't wait till Nier Automata is out so people like you will just go away and leave these games alone again.
>>343815741
dude just play the game
Also Emi Evans isn't returning for the soundtrack, which makes sense sinceher character died in the last game
>>343815732
>>Actual serious concern over a game's localization quality
Being outraged because the people at 8-4 have liberal opinions isn't concern for localization quality
>>343811000
>>343811278
>>343812458
So what did they even change about the first NieR? The kinds of changes they're talking about piss me off worse than even outfits altered for modesty. It's one thing to have something be lost in translation because the language is too different to keep it as-is, but it's another thing entirely to change the ideas at play in the story because they feel Americans need to be babied.
It's like the English localization for Mononoke Hime. Princess Mononoke is one of my favorite films (shit taste accusations incoming), and I loath its localization. Ghibli/Disney/Neil Gaiman decided that all the dialog pertaining to Japanese history, mythology, and cultural norms needed to be changed in the dub, so big swaths of dialog have been bulldozed. The lines I love from the subs are not 1:1 translations, naturally, but the original subject matter is intact, and a good deal of the delivery survived, unlike in the dub. The English dub got rid of Ashitaka's stoic resolve in regard to his actions and fate, added extra fluff dialog to over-explain what was just said, and sometimes changed the subject matter completely. Not to mention doing things like making Moro's voice smooth and feminine instead of deep and haughty. All-in-all, it was a shit show.
That's exactly the kind of shit I worry about when I hear about shit localization teams working on upcoming games. Censored skin, blood, and dialog aside, the very notion that subject matter needs to be substituted for another culture to understand is offensive.
>>343805193
So why are you niggers crying? It's the same team that localized the original NieR. Other credits include MGR:R, Shadows of the Damned, and MonHun. What's the deal?
>>343816008
Emi Evans is definitely back as the main vocalist. She was in the boss fight footage they released. Where does this this shit info come from? It's not like she voice any characters in Nier or DoD3.
>>343815741
>radical localization efforts gave us Papa Nier
Papa Nier wasn't a Western only character. He was in one of the 2 versions released in Japan.
>>343815732
>Like Nier
>"Nier's localization team is going to do Nier 2"
>Oh neat
>Go to into the thread
>thread filled with "WOW BETTER GET ANGRY ABOUT THIIS LIKE WE WUZ SJWS N SHIET PHAM!!! XD"
Fuck off retards
>>343816008
Emi Evans IS returning! She's confirmed she's recording tracks for Automata on her Twitter
>>343815732
>When it's the original company doing the translating
>When the translation has to be approved by Taro himself anyway
Here's your (You)
>>343814393
Maybe I was thinking of Bayonetta or something, I could have sworn I've seen an MGR cutscene where the subtitles were in Japanese yet the audio was in English but it's possible they had subtitles or an option to switch the audio tracks.
>>343815732
>Actual serious concern over
HAHAHA no there isn't, this is all just a ploy by retarded shitposters to effortlessly shitpost on whatever new meme article comes out. Just fuck off already.
So burger outfits confirmed then?
>>343816209
He was designed later on to appeal to western audiences. This has been confirmed by Taro.
Yes, Gestalt got a Jap release, but there's a reason it only had an English dub
>>343805193
I'm going to buy it, the game looks good
>>343815741
Just play the game, the gameplay is simple but not bad and you're OP real early.
Playing through the game instead of watching an LP or not playing at all is way better than just jumping into Automata. It has some nice gameplay sections like lite bullet hell, isometric and shit.
>>343816206
>>343816253
Oh, my info was out of date then
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/11/08/ps4-exclusive-nier-automata-gets-a-lot-of-info-on-gameplay-music-yorha-2b-origins-and-much-more/
>>343811637
>>343814927
Sounds like Taro's got it handled. At least I hope so. I don't want the game to be near release, with my hype meter at maximum, and to then learn that it's been butchered like Tokyo Mirage Sessions or some shit.
Reminder : Pro 8-4 posters are the kind of people who believe this chart to be true.
Legitimate question
Is no one else bothered by the way your weapons float like 5 feet off your back?
I can't play this game for this very reason alone.
It's such a small nitpick, but it really just ruins it for me.
>>343816468
You should try to not get your info from sites like fucking 'Dualshockers.com'. Christ.
>>343816568
robo magnets
>>343816169
If we're talking about just 8-4. They decesonsored the cursing from Kaine, that's about it. I played the jap version of Gestalt and it's pretty much the same, and as close to a 1:1 translation without being google translate tier
>>343816273
Yeah, Bayonetta was English everywhere. Japanese voice acting didn't get added until 2 and the Wii U port of 1 because that shitty anime movie came out and it obviously had Japanese acting.
>>343816568
No, because it's fucking justified.
You don't see the giant rings around the weapons?
Why do people come from other sites just to shitpost on /v/
>>343812527
>can the game include this basic feature that would easily appease everyone?
>no, fuck you, consume media my way or kill yourself
I don't get this. It would be adding content to the game. Shit, since there's no region lock on Sony games, I'd happily just import it if the Japanese version packed subs.
With film, if you buy a blu-ray, it usually has like seven subtitle options if not as many dub options. Wanting that same basic feature in a videogame is wrong, though? Explain yourself.
>>343816468
She was unavailable at the time and they had J'Nique Nicole do the theme song, but she MADE herself available for some tracks, which I think is great.
I swear every single good person who worked on Nier is back, and every single bad aspect (the combat, arguably the character designs) is being worked on by the best in the industry instead.
>>343816617
>>343816687
Having to come up with a story reason for it is all the more stupid
>>343816820
It's explained and you're purposely trying to refuse the explanation in order to bitch about it for no reason.
>>343815759
Hmmmm smells like gaf apologist
nier 2 will open with B2 saying "waddup?"
>>343816820
You can clearly see that it's supposed to be like that. Other Platinum games alery had sheathed weapons so it's definitely not a problem for them
Poor Taro is going to be the victim of crazy activist fanbase.
Taro: Well we used 8-4 for Nier and people liked that so let's use them again
Fans: OOGABOOGA 8-4 DA DEVIL NEVER BUY GAME NOW
(gameflops)
Taro: Well I guess the western fanbase doesn't like Nier anymore
>>343816632
Sounds good to me; I don't see why there's a shitposting freakout thread, in that case. All I ever ask for is a translation that's as close to 1:1 as you can get while being comprehensible.
>Not knowing Japanese
Do you people even like videogames?
>>343817002
>the whole game is in nigger speak
what I would give for this to happen
>>343816972
Smells like a /pol/ drama post
>>343817097
After what video games have done to me?
>>343817054
>Trusting gaijins rather than trusting his gut/game
At least Kamitani and Kojima could stand by their products.
>>343817223
Are you implying Kamitani and Kojima translate their own games rather than having gaijins do it?
>>343815902
>>343816021
>>343816210
>>343816260
>>343816296
You people only prove me right, this thread has already been taken over by forum sliding so we can no longer voice our opinions unless it's to either praise the localization team/series or to shit on others like myself. There is a fairly large gap between the first and second nier games and the games that the localization team have worked on in that time have been below par, am I wrong to be concerned about this? I'm just going to leave this thread because clearly it's not one where we can actually discuss such an issue without ad nauseam.
>>343816784
>WHY CAN'T VIDEO GAMES DO THE THINGS MOVIES DO?
First, fuck off. Second, audio takes up a shitload of space for a video game since it's not just 2 hours of recorded dialog like a film. Drakengard 3's JP dub download was like 10GB, Blurays are already bloated enough as is. And I know you retards don't really think about this, but that shit isn't hosting itself for free. Every download, every patch costs money and that shit certainly doesn't host itself.
I guess "fuck off" should've been second and not first. So third, fuck off.
>>343815146
It could be some shit pulled off of his ass, but they did that to the first Nier.
>taro will be supervisor again
Okay, nothing wrong here
>>343817206
>It takes the same amount of effort, money to make a game in 1997 and 2016
You are fucking retarded and I'm not surprised if you're twelve.
>>343817549
With Nier, yes. But Kaine still looked the same
>>343817485
>that shit isn't hosting itself for free
that's why we pay for PS+ so sony can host is all on their servers right
>>343817476
bye
>>343817476
Ok.
>>343817651
The point is that because it takes more money to create an equivalent experience now, video games have become shit.
>>343817031
This.
MGR had a 3-point articulated arm that held Raiden's scabbard so he could put it away on his back and then draw it like a katana.
They have no problem doing that. The floating is an obvious design choice.
My guess is it'sa joke at the expense of the floating weapons trope, Taro loves to poke fun at game design tropes and Taura has said it was one of the things he loved most about Nier
I also get the feeling that Pod 042 will, at least once, bounce around 2B going "Hey! Listen!"
It's just how Nier works, anon.
>>343805667
>,Xenoblade X
say no mo senpai
fuck these nintendo drones convincing me to get that piece of shit
>>343811000
>>343805193
>JAPANESE IS SO ADVANCED AND AMAZING THAT YOU SILLY AMERICANS COULD NEVER COMPREHEND A SCRIPT THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE MEMES AND INSERTED AMERICAN POP CULTURE REFERENCES
>JUST IGNORE HOW WE ALSO REFUSE TO INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL AUDIO SO WE CAN JUSTIFY THE BUDGET TO HIRE OUR TWITTER SJW FRIENDS TO VOICE CHARACTERS
How to spot a SJW trying to hide their agenda a mile away.
this was the only ps4 game I wanted
guess I won't buy a ps4
Didn't drakengard 3 have that one old dude fucking a horse? I think we'll be ok boys.
>>343818117
Back to >>>/8gag/
>>343817054
maybe they should have used an ounce of self control and held back from inserting their liberal left wing bullshit into the last games they "localized" then
>>343818218
They also talked about fucking each other all the time
>>343811000
>Platinum Games' Yasuhisa Taura
>Yasuhisa Taura
>Yasuhisa
Holy shit.
They can't even get lead designer TAKAHISA Taura's name right.
I'm sure this was a well fact-checked and highly reliable article.
>>343810414
>They're just going to localize the game for western audiences which means yes some things will not get 1:1 translation but we're not talking Nintendo MEME translation levels of bad. Just a standard localization which the majority of people don't give two shits about.
I WANT to believe but [citation needed] I have no faith in them and I don't believe you.
>>343817485
Calm down, neofag. Also, I'd actually buy the JP audio and English subs for like $5 if it were really a problem to just put it on the blu-ray. It's cheaper than importing, certainly.
Also, what >>343817805 said. You should stop sucking industry cock and side with yourself as a consumer. We already have people defending every decision that their favorite corporation makes, from on-disc DLC to region lock, and ranting about how dem poor corporations need money fo dem programs is really just anti-consumer and stupid.
Also, as I said the first time, English subs don't take up hardly any on-disc room, so if they were available on the Jap version, I'd just import like you want me to. Imported anime usually has fucking sub options on it, so there's no reason not to have them in games. Unless you're a pro-corporate cuck, that is.
It's like trying to buy a laptop at Best Buy and them not letting you leave the store with it until the Geek Squad has installed a bunch of useless shit you don't want. I just want the game without the Geek Squad treatment, thank you.
>>343818304
Uh what game are you talking about?
>>343818117
>I don't know anything about the translation and localization process
Whew lad, nice fear mongering
>>343814893
It's confirmed by 8-4.
Not even Nier threads are save from non stop shitposting at this point
>>343818414
>Also, as I said the first time, English subs don't take up hardly any on-disc room
This is objectively untrue.
For console games, where the disc size is fixed, one of the easiest optimizations is to put the audio on the disc uncompressed to reduce the conversion cost to the CPU.
uncompressed audio basically fills the available disc space to squeeze out CPU cycles.
So, no, it's NOT zero cost. Now, if the design decision is made early-on, then yes, it's fine, since it can be compressed, but if that optimization decision is made, then it can have a serious impact, especially in dialog-heavy games with lots of content like RPGs.
>>343818373
They clearly state on their site the few instances where they've done things beyond just Japanese>English and vice versa.
>>343818567
Fuck you, you fucking libcuck sjw cuck reddit nu male
>>343817476
You won't be missed.
>>343811000
>We've translated everything literally word for word.
>Keikaku Dory
>Keikaku
>Searching for somehow changed to "planning"
Even in their jokes they can't do proper translation.
That's sad.
>>343818675
I said subs, bruh, not another audio track. Sub files are text files synced to the media, they're very small.
As in, I'd like to import the Jap version that only has Jap audio, and turn on English subs. Either that or just download the original audio either for free or for a reasonable charge.
>>343818998
Oh, I'm sorry, I misread that.
Then yes, you're right. Subs are cheap as shit.
>>343818904
>Yasuhisa Taura
I'm gonna post this until everyone sees it.
That article is the laziest bullshit I've ever seen. Didn't even get Takahisa Taura's name right and he's the fucking lead developer and they spend 2 paragraphs talking about him.
No way I trust a single goddamn word in that article, and neither should you.
>>343805193
might as well use google translate
>>343810574
>On their official site, their job on Nier 2 is strictly English-to-Japanese translation
According to Platinum, they are explicitly being used for full localization and changing the story and characters to suit each region.
>>343819390
Source this claim
If you would've played the game without knowing it was 8-4 you probably wouldn't give a shit about it
>>343805667
Those were executive choices. NOA forced Awakening, Bravely AND XBX's changes, and Inafune was the one who gave 8-4 the clear to gut Gunvolt. As for DG3, the script was mostly the same but everyone was more angry. Nier 1 was fine.
>>343805193
I only hope is better than the first one, the Gestalt/Replicant editions were bullshit and people know it.
>>343819470
That wasn't 8-4, that was Square. 8-4 only did the translation
>>343819390
>changing the story and characters to suit each region.
The article said that was done for Nier. Not necessarily for Nier 2
>>343818904
"Keikaku doori" means "Just according to plan" in Japanese.
Congrats anon, you played yourself.
Just wait to see the final product. You can't change anything at this point. So if they fuck it up then you can blacklist 8-4 forever
>>343818904
>Keikaku Doori means "Just as planned" or "exactly according to plan" in Japanese
>turned this into a pun on Finding Dory
>the leading sentence makes this obvious by saying "Everything is [exactly according to plan]"
>anon misses the point and shitposts anyway
come on.
>>343819624
Pic related: The level of "translation" /v/ wants in its games
TIME TO GET LOCALIZED BABY
i can't wait for them to remove all the offensive tits in the game because tits are too complicated for the american audience
>>343819925
TITS=BAD
MEMES=GOOD
>>343805193
I saw the shit what 8-4 has done in Mighty No 9.
Glad I played it in full japanese.
Yeah, my expectative is quite low and I'm out of photorealism hype train.
>>343819925
Nintendo specifically asks for memes in their localizations though
>>343820059
Yeah, I'm sure 8-4 is the reason MN9 is a shitburger
>>343805193
>8-4
>>343820157
>NOA
>>343805667
>they did awakening
>bd
>xenoblade
You're giving me more reasons to buy this game.
>>343820157
Give me one non-Nintendo, non-Inafune example
>>343820059
Mighty No. 9's localization was obviously meant to appeal to English-speaking kids though
>>343805667
Bravely Default had no major changes, and Second's were the conscious decision of the original dev team due to feedback from Japanese players, and both games were localized by Binari Sonori anyways.
>>343805193
Cool blog post.
Nevermind the fact Taro Yoko is overseeing the localization himself.
ITT: Being suprised that Western liberals butcher translation when it's in their nature to change everything to suit their worldview.
This is also a problem with some conservatives, but it seems more pronounced with liberals. Which make sense, since they want to change everything.
This is where a company having a twitter and communicating with fans could help. People could go to their twitter and ask about the type of localization they're doing on Nier 2 and if they respond that it's just a general translation with no crazy changes then it can reassure raging pessimists like /v/
I just want to talk about Nier.
Can I get my threads that let me talk about Nier back?
I don't care about platforms. I don't mind localization issues - I can deal with them. And I don't even care about Platinum that much.
I just want to be able to discuss Nier again.
>>343805193
I hate them for what they did to Xenoblade X, then again it was probably Nintendo's fault. They did a great job on NieR. As for DoD3 I liked Zero either way so it doesn't matter to me. Either way I'm still getting Automata on day 1.
>>343820157
I'll never get over this. Why did they think anyone would ever care about a beach episode if not for some light fan service?
>>343820512
Alright little girl, what was your favorite area in Nier?
>>343820512
Look out for Drakengard threads
>>343820512
>OP thread is specificaly about the shitty localization
>WHY WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE GAME
anon, go make your own thread if you want to talk about the game
>>343820575
It's censored because Nintendo of MUUUUURRRIKKA FREEDOM FUCK YEAH felt it was too racey for their standards
>>343820223
Handled by 8-4
>>343818895
>>343817873
>>343817835
t. neogaf
>>343820512
Lets do it then!
So, based on what we've seen so far, what role do you think Emil will play in Automata?
>>343820512
Just try to avoid and filter threads that bitch about the fact that 8-4 is localizing this game and you'll be good.
>>343820356
no he is not
>>343820618
Facade. The design was really unique, never seen a location like it in any other game.
>>343820706
You know it's not that simple.
>>343820804
I wont accept anything other than his Cyborg Alien Hunting self
>from the people who brought you great lines such as "NOW PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN ASS AND START FUCKING HELPING US" and "STUPID PUSSY SNOW", as well as introducing the word "shithog" into the English lexicon
Fuck off with your localization bogeymen. Game is going to be great.
>>343820721
When your employer tells you to censor something you do it
>>343820707
It feels like it would have made more sense to not release the DLC at all.
Oh wait, but then they wouldn't have gotten all that money for censored fan service.
