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http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/04/nier-automata-hands-on-preview-i-wanted-to-create-a-game-where-players-would-feel-something-5983324/
https://archive.is/JPJ7K#selection-841.1-845.191
>As for localisation, the team working on it is called 8-4. They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions. That’s because there’s a lot of concepts or ideas that only really the Japanese audience would understand. And so the localisation team really went in and made it so that the English native speakers will really enjoy the game’, he adds.
D R O P P E D
>8-4
Fuck.
>>343760590
>8-4
Jesus christ not again.
What did they do before? Don't tell me they localized DoD3
>>343760684
>>343760784
What other shit is 8-4 responsible for?
>>343760684
>>343760784
Their track record not so good?
/v/ will drop $60 on this!
talk about being a pathetic sissy cuckold
>>343760590
>8-4
It's over.
Will you idiots ever learn to click the links?
They did Nier too, what was wrong with that?
>>343760967
Nothing is different in the link.
>>343760590
This over localisation is just an excuse for their bad translators re-writing scripts since it's easier.
Nier's translation was amazing, so I don't see any problem with this. I'm sure the localisation team realises that the game is intended for a more mature audience, and will do their best to keep the atmosphere and flow intact.
>>343760880
>>343760894
>http://8-4.jp/gameography/?lang=en
Look for yourself. Though they did Nier, which I thought was pretty good in that regard. Aside from a pretty japanese power of friendship moment it felt pretty natural.
IT CAN'T KEEP HAPPENING
FIX THIS
>>343760953
>Chaos Wars
Oh my god.
>>343761135
They did Nier so what's the problem?
And here I was thinking gameplay was more important than story
silly me
Can't wait to play this on my PS4, may even buy the special edition with a 2B figure
>>343761129
Nier came out six years ago. The 8-4 that lucked out with that wonder and the 8-4 that have butchered games since are not the same company.
>I'm sure the localisation team realises that the game is intended for a more mature audience, and will do their best to keep the atmosphere and flow intact.
Oh, I see, you're joking.
Everytime that someone try to make a game where you can "feel somenthing" always ends in a regular story with tasteless characters.
Out there are games that catch this goal without effort.
>>343761130
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Azure Striker GUNVOLT
>Drakengard 3
>Lunar Knights
I see a lot of stuff where very stupid decisions were made, but I also see stuff that was merely okay.
They definitely have at LEAST a below-average track record though.
>>343760590
>look at their list of games
>most negligible, some bad, some good
I don't see why this is bad, compared to any other realistic option available.
Name one group that Square would genuinely use for localization with superior localization.
>>343760590
>8-4
I swear to FUCKING GOD
>>343761254
>posts a pic of a game with terrible gameplay and story and also panders to horny neck beards
You just be being sarcastic
>>343761237
They also did Drakengard 3, Xenoblade X, and Fire Emblem Awakening.
Okay but why the fuck is a team of translators allowed to change the script?
>>343760590
>Japanese Version
Your dad is dying or something
>US Version
You're out of hamburgers
>>343760590
I knew it was too good to be true. It's like a fucking Monkey Paw wish.
>>343761301
You've clearly never played a Yoko Taro game.
>>343761254
>And here I was thinking gameplay was more important than story
Do you even Yoko Taro
>>343760590
IT ALL COMES
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWN
>8-4
Well, I guess I can still import it.
>>343761254
If story in character action games doesn't matter, then why does Platinum's games have so MANY FUCKING CUTSCENES HOLY SHIT
>>343761450
>You're out of hamburgers
>>343761329
Their own in-house team.
japa
n
8-4 is all over the place, but they also do good jobs every once in a while, I think it has more to do with who has got their leash. Let's wait and see.
>>343761329
>And so the localisation team really went in and made it so that the English native speakers will really enjoy the game’, he adds.
This is the bit that's really worrying people.
That's exactly what they did with their worst of the worst localizations.
>>343761450
>You're out of hamburgers
>>343761664
Go listen to their podcast sometime.
Their office in Japan might as well be the San Francisco Embassy. They fucking hate Japanese culture and will quickly admonish anything they consider problematic.
>>343760590
Can't they just fucking translate Japanese script? Why do they need to localise everything?
>>343761703
It's also what they did with Nier, or did everyone suddenly forget?
>>343761703
That comment was made about the first Nier, though.
Fucking relax.
Goodbye game of the year.
>Script makes reference or joke to/about incredibly obscure Japanese culture or pop culture, like a tv show, play, public figure, etc. Something that an english reader would never get without being a total weeb
>Translators localize the reference with as close to an equivalent as they can find so that the english reader gets the same experience that the Japanese one does and isn't forced to google the name in order to understand the reference
This is okay, as long as it's done well.
>Dialogue is cut
>Dialogue is replaced with memes or inside jokes
>Memes are inserted at all, whether they replace dialogue or not
>Completely normal joke that can be understood by literally anyone if translated properly is replaced with something else, usually a less funny joke
>Translator/localizer feels put off by something in the script and decides to change it to suit their taste
>Translation is just bad and inaccurate
>Anything that might be considered problematic is thrown out instantly in order to appeal to a market that the original game wasn't even marketed towards
These are unacceptable, and 8-4 is guilty of almost all of them at one point or another. It COULD turn out alright, sure, but this news is worrisome.
>>343761849
>>343761418
Modern localisation companies have an unwarranted sense of self-importance and believe it is their job to make the scripts better than what those shitty jap writers made, because who the fuck cares about the integrity of the original work, right?
It's over
>>343760590
>He hasn't learned a japanese.
>>343760590
there's literally nothing wrong with localising things only the Japanese would understand into something english speakers would understand
see: FLCL
>>343762036
I hope that your image is meant to be an example of the latter group, because there is zero reason Commie couldn't have just subbed it as "downright heresy".
Did you really thought they'll let a sexy woman be a main character? In this day and age?
If anything, you should have been worried that they didn't said anything before-hand.
So relax and bend over for your overlords /v/, after all you really like sucking that PC cock.
:^)
>>343761595
>8-4 does all 100% of the two yoko taro titles after drakengard2
>does several other Square titles since then as well
They're obviously the go to team for translations on Square's sideline projects. Why do you think they didn't use their own team in the first place? Most likely they're all working on 15 and don't have time for a sequel of a spinoff from a dude who can't break 2 million sales, regardless of how much the fans like him.
I said reasonable, try again.
>>343760590
>That’s because there’s a lot of concepts or ideas that only really the Japanese audience would understand.
What the fuck? Like what, for example?
>>343762036
Yeah 8-4 fucked up the first Nier so I expect another shitshow.
>concepts or ideas that only really the Japanese audience would understand
WHAT IS THIS DEEP JAPANESE LORE UNBEKNOWNST AND UNLEARNABLE TO ANY OTHER RACE
I want to remind you all that Nier had a different main character outside of Japan because it was deemed too Japanese and you all ate that shit up.
Hahahaha, love this!
EOPs fucked again!
>>343762207
There is literally nothing wrong with Commie.
>>343760590
Hopefully the Japanese audio will be DLC like with Drakengard 3.
>>343762276
Yeah and it also had the Xbox 360 version which still had Dad Nier.
>>343762276
Because everyone with a brain knows manly nier is better than dweeb shithead, it was a positive change.
>>343762276
Shut up, 8-4.
Isn't 8-4 also responsible for Bravely Second ?
That game was fucking butchered, whole sidequest paths cut and shit
they did nier too you fucking retards
its like you want something to be mad at
Can you play in japanese?
>>343760953
that's an impressive butchering, that's for sure
>>343762235
>>343762270
Secrets on how to make anime real.
>>343762521
>they changed a lot from the original script
>it's alright guise they did the first one
On another note, is @yokotaro his twitter?
>>343760590
w-w-what... ? God please... let the game be good.
>>343762671
>On another note, is @yokotaro his twitter?
yes
>>343761847
oh god really? why do these people even have this job.
>>343762671
Yes.
Also
>A lot
Hardly.
>>343762036
Changing a reference often seems like a good idea, but in practice you're just losing the cultural identity of the work. Look at Akiba's Trip for instance; by changing 2ch memes into 4chan memes, some things came across as more vulgar than intended. Especially to someone who isn't familiar with 4chan.
>>343762514
No, that was a Square+Treehouse collaboration.
>>343762514
Stop trying to shitpost this obvious bullshit.
Any retard can find their history on wikipedia, so you're not going to fool anyone.
Is 8-4 to blame for Zero becoming female Donte in the western version?
Oh man things almost went well
>>343762729
Look at the archive link from the OP. It's Yoko Taro's words, not mine.
>>343761450
>You're out of hamburgers
>>343762860
That was more the director/tara platt
>>343760953
I love it how japanese devs think all westerners have mental capacity of a child
muh deep japanese plot, you baka gaijin just could not understand it and its nuances
>>343761254
>i don't know what "gameplay" means.
Protip: "story" (the narrative), is an important aspect because it provides focus and context to the actions you are performing. Getting to mash the x button a couple of hours a game does not make.
>>343760590
>They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions.
WHY DOES IT KEEP HAPPENING
>>343762514
That's not about how they translated concepts though, that was because those "sidequest paths" that they cut were permanent failure states for sidequests that could lead to new jobs. They've talked about it before how missing out on a gameplay mechanic like a job for an entire playthrough just wasn't fun, same way the first Bravely Default had other quality of life improvements.
But really, I want to know, what are 8-4's worst localizations? People are freaking out and I want to know why since it just looks like the same old, same old given they did Nier too.
>>343760590
Welp. I'm seriously not going to buy this game now.
Why does it keep happening? Are japanese people really that out of touch that they think introducing people to different cultures is a no-go?
What the fuck is even happening?
>>343760590
Funny, since the e3 that i felt there was something weird with the production of the game, platinum showed a lot of content, so it didn't make sense to take another year before releasing it if the game looked like it was almost finished.
But now it make sense, they where taking their time """"""localizating"""""" it.
>>343760590
>As for localisation, the team working on it is called 8-4.
I didn't even need the lines after that.
>>343762984
>Are japanese people really that out of touch that they think introducing people to different cultures is a no-go?
What do you think?
>>343762671
>reactionary children who only played Nier after it became a "cult classic" will spam Taro's twitter until he switches the localization group
>they'll at best send it to SE internal
>the same people who caused this nightmare >>343762514
I wish people like you wouldn't even get involved in the things I like so much. You ruin them every time, without fail.
>>343762886
Yeah well Yoko Taro is free to give me an example.
All the changes in Drakengard 3 were outlines by the JP readers in DoD3 threads. Not in Nier threads, other than "Brother Nier is kind of a fag and sold his boipucci."
>8-4 localized Metal Gear Rising
No wonder that game was trash.
>>343762752
The trap bullshit was just pure manufactured outrage.
>weebs crying because their weebshit will have the incestuous degeneracy censored
>>343760590
so he's saying it's time to learn japanese, then?
>>343763056
>mlp hat
>>343762983
>But really, I want to know, what are 8-4's worst localizations? People are freaking out and I want to know why since it just looks like the same old, same old given they did Nier too.
This is all you need to know:
>They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions.
If they treat it like they treated Nier, then we're good.
If they treat it like they treated much of the stuff that people are talking about, fuck off.
>>343762276
Japan had both Dad and Brother versions, we only got the Dad version.
>>343761130
I thought the Monster Hunter localizations were done in-house.
> changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions
holy shittttttt, I mean if mistranslated still okay. But change to fit DIFFERENT regions ?
m-maybe there will be a relatively untouched HK/Singapore release with english subs
>muh censorship
Fuck off goobygoofers
>>343763102
Good ol 9 11.
>>343762235
>>343762270
Subtlety.
>>343763057
Go cry me a river.
>>343760590
>8-4
No I want to see that hypocrisy go at full power you niggers
You will never get your video games back, /v/
>>343762364
>Hopefully the Japanese audio will be included by default
Why would you wish for jewing?
Maybe 8-4 just butchers shit for Nintendo consoles to kiddify them or something. Maybe Nintendo wanted them to make sure those games were "all-ages" appropriate.
They did Nier 1 and Revengeance, and those games are dark and vulgar as fuck. It's not like you can just hide away or cut out Nier's subject matter, it's prevalent throughout the whole game.
So now can we have a PC version?
>>343761450
>hamburger level
>out of hamburgers
Go to fucking sleep, FloppV, you German fuck.
>>343760590
>A select few diehard Sony autists are actually defending this in this very thread.
My sides.
On the other hand...I expected more fanboyism and damage control, so kudos to the rest of you for acknowledging that this is a big issue.
>>343763213
>cry ME a river
Your entitlement is showing, millenial.
>>343762984
>Are japanese people really that out of touch that they think introducing people to different cultures is a no-go?
>Implying this is the dev's fault
It's san fran faggots thinking they know better than the original writers and the devs not giving enough of a shit about the west to complain.
Hell, most of them can't even really tell what was changed.
>>343763057
Bravely Second was translated by Treehouse, retard. Squeenix had nothing to do with the localisation.
>>343763318
fuck off with your console war shit
>>343763293
No fuck off
>>343762521
Yeah, and we got papa nier a retard character who act like teenager, because 8-4 didn't bother to adapt his dialogue and interaction with the diffrent character of the game.
>>343760953
wow looks like we getting cucked again with this one also
>>343760590
>8-4
NO
>>343763128
That isn't much to go on at all. How much is changing a lot? I mean this is the same guy who put out two different versions of the same game where the only change was a main character being a brother or a father, and the father one was way better.
I want to know what the horrible shit 8-4's done actually is, because it seems blown so out of proportion if they're the same ones that did Nier in the first place, which had fantastic localization with a lot of great voice direction and banter.
>>343762949
Well, for the average westener CoD is the pinnacle of enjoyment.
>>343763318
>one samefag just keeps shitposting about this being the apocalypse
>everyone else points out there is nothing to be worried about
>LOL SONYGGERS AMIRITE
Why do you even post if this is the limit of your blatant, low energy bait?
>>343763057
Read >>343760590
>"They actually changed a lot from the original script to fit the different regions."
>"And so the localisation team really went in and made it so that the English native speakers will really enjoy the game"
But since you can't take that dick out of your mouth, you'll resort to deflection and meme posting without actually addressing my or op's points.
Dipshit
>>343763291
This is where I'm at too. 8-4 did the original Nier so I hope they can keep their dicey shit to a minimum just this once.
>>343763370
Wrong pic
Reminder to the people who are going "B-but they did Revengeance and Nier 1!" that this is a Post-Mighty No. 9 8-4.
God knows what will happen considering how much they fucked with the community aspect of M#9
what was wrong in the drakengard 3 localisation
>>343763398
You won't be able to see until the game comes out probably
>>343763356
>Nintendo's in house team translates SE products
>saving money
i must thank so many companies so much for killing vidya
>>343763496
english dub, japanese dub dlc
>>343763262
Yeah I know, kill me.
>>343763370
Papa Nier > gaybait twink boy
Think about this for a second. Are there any localizers SE could've hired that you would like /v/? I can't think of anyone but Xseed and they localize their own games, not random companies' games.
>>343762984
It's called localization and it's been a thing since cultural exportation exists.
>>343762983
>But really, I want to know, what are 8-4's worst localizations? People are freaking out and I want to know why since it just looks like the same old, same old given they did Nier too.
Already posted in the thread. Xenoblade X, FE Awakening, Gunvolt, Drakengard 3.
>>343760590
Oh no...
They did Drakengard 3 and the original Nier and they both ended up fine, I dunno why you fags are whining about this.
>>343763523
>funded and published by Nintendo
Don't fucking drive to meme country
>>343763370
wait, are you seriously complaining that they didn't change the dialogue?
Do you think 8-4 invented papa nier? How much of a retard are you?
>>343763491
The problem with Mighty No. 9 was deeper than some stupid localization thing. Namely fucking everything.
also,
>The Mighty No. 9 community
who gives a fuck about these morons
>>343763496
>Fuck fuck fucking fuck fuck fuck me I'm so horny fuck shit fuck
Mostly character assassination. No big deal.
>>343763491
The community of MN9 sperged out when they found out a woman was working there, which isn't surprising considering how cancerous the Megaman fanbase is.
>>343763291
Just because Drakengard 3 was vulgar and violent doesn't mean they didn't fuck with the script.
>>343763572
How was Gunvolt bad?
>>343763491
MEMES JACK
>>343760590
I'm going to enjoy the mountains of salt.
>>343760590
>native english speakers
And the others, they eat shit? Nice way to ruin the game, otherwise.
>>343760590
Does this mean 2B will be turned into a MILF?
>>343763671
>when they found out a woman was working there
I think it was because she hadn't played the original MM games
>>343760590
First Nier had a shit story too
First Nier had shit gameplay.
What's the problem? Nier has never been known for anything other than its above average OST.
The rest has always been pure garbage.
>>343763456
>One samefag that says there is literally nothing wrong with rewrites
>Everyone else points out that they're retarded and 8-4 are garbage localisers
FTFY
>>343763491
>He thinks 8-4 was the problem with Mighty No. 9
>Not the literal fucking conman in charge of production
>>343763676
We'll never know ;)
>>343763740
You're retarded, touhou girl. Go back to your touhou hugbox
>>343763680
You've probably played the Steam version.
The 3DS version is...bad. Bad enough that they had to redo the entire fucking script for the rerelease.
Also cut scenes.
>>343761703
The first Nier had an actual novelist working on the translation team as well though. No one big time, but someone who actually understood what the story wanted to be on a deeper level than most translators.
>>343763642
>Drakengard 3
>fine
>>343763572
You forgot Reveangance, Tales of Vesperia, Abyss and Baten Kaitos Orgins.
the one fucking game I was excited about
time to learn Japonese
It keeps happening.
>List of things 8-4 changed in Nier
-...?
-Probably added a few swear words.
>List of things 8-4 changed in DoD3
-Added a lot more swear words.
-Angry Zero instead of sarcastic, lethargic Zero
-Some dialogue
>always loved 8-4 podcast
>stopped listening more than a year ago due to distractions and shit
>see thread reactions
aww shit, what happened to 8-4 while I was away?
Neofag says there is nothing to be worried about.
Wake the fuck up /v/, 8-4 isn't going to do anything.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1242577
>>343763740
Designation: Standard-class Nier thread bait
Recommendation: do not engage, do not take seriously, laugh at
>>343761283
Unfotunately you have a point. I don't have faith in the new Mass Effect on account of liking Mass Effect 1 and some of 2.
>>343761254
>And here I was thinking gameplay was more important than story
Please don't play Automata.
>>343760590
>persona 5
>this
just kill me
>>343763735
Whoa there, are you actually using fact to counter against a reactionary twisting of events? Get the fuck out of here, son.
>>343763461
>uses namecalling and ad hominem
>you won't address my pointS! (plural)
You have no pointS. You're just throwing a tantrum because they said the same thing about localization that any jdev says.
>They're working hard to adapt this for your viewing pleasure, Americans.
That doesn't say anything, it's the same thing as when he said he would be confident letting Platinum make the entire game without his help.
You're just shitposting about this to stir up artificial controversy over nothing because you know you can rile people up over their beloved franchise. Stop trying to say everything is the new Tortanic and go shitpost in an Overwatch thread with the rest of your kind.
>>343763461
>without actually addressing my or op's points
Give examples of what was changed, then.
No, Yoko Taro saying "A lot," when he's also a pathological liar that says he writes happy endings isn't an example.
thankfully the people who translate japanese literature into english are talented and have respect for the authors and the readers.
i hope video games will be as mature someday. i don't know why the writers for the game aren't upset about this.
>>343763680
They literally cut 90% of the script.
They also covered up his midriff and cut off his braid because they thought his design was too feminine for western audiences, but they put the braid back after backlash.
>>343763847
He asked for the bad ones, idiot.
>>343763646
>Nintendo translated Bayonetta 2
>>343763496
Zero was angry instead of uncaring.
Added a bunch of "Fuck."
Octa's dialogue sounds a little weirder, in a different way than the JP dialogue did.
That's about it desu.
>>343763817
Not him but I played the Steam ver and it was awful. "Xe" shit, retarded out of place jokes, tone that shifts back and forth between serious and bumfuck retarded, but hell maybe that was in the Japanese version of the game.
>>343763987
8-4 has a track record for producing butchered localizations.
No matter how much you try to dance around it, that is a fact, and Nier Automata is going to be butchered hardcore.
Reminder that you're all retards and their talking about the first Nier
"It all seems very encouraging and with luck will turn one of the weakest elements of the original into one of the strongest parts of its sequel. But the other great draw of NieR was its script, which not only delved into some dark and thought-provoking subject matter but remains one of the best written we’ve ever experienced in a Japanese role-playing game.
And we’re fascinated to find out that this isn’t because it was translated more accurately than usual, but rather that the team were given an atypical amount of leeway in adapting the game’s concepts and dialogue into English."
>>343763642
Nah, while Drakengard 3 didn't get screw ups 1 did, there were things that changed Zero's personality from cold to hotheaded bitch.
>>343763810
>We'll never know ;)
Yes we will. The game is out. People are perfectly free to compare the script and see what they changed.
Is this some kind of retarded ironic shitposting?
>>343763730
Nah they will actually make her a transvestite.
Remember that sexualizing men is alright but don't you dare make a slightly attractive women or else tumblr will cry about it.
>>343764081
They were bad. 8-4 is fucking trash. Can't write good dialogue or hire decent VAs for the dubs.
>>343763774
>get called out on shitposting
>shitpost in response
>>343764129
It was worse in the 3DS version, as >>343764081 says.
>game gets censored
>"w-who cares, it's a platinum game I play it for the gameplay"
BAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH holy shit, platinumdrones on maximum damage control. They don't even know what made nier a cult classic in the first place
>>343764161
You're just trusting some guy who says he knows Japanese. You'll never know which translation is right for yourself
>>343764129
The Xe shit was entirely the localisation. The original had the hermaphroditic character be a laughing stock and insulted by the rest of the cast for it. Entirely gone in the sanitised western release.
>>343764191
>Get blown the fuck out
>Try to save face and fail miserably
Pottery.
>>343760590
>8-4
>One of the main reasons I haven't offed myself yet
>One of the few things I'm looking forward to
>This happens
This is a fucking joke right? Being alive is a joke. I knew I shouldn't have raised my hopes, we just can't have nice things.
>>343763869
>-Angry Zero instead of sarcastic, lethargic Zero
That's a little misleading. Zero was plenty sarcastic and lethargic in the dub.
I will agree that Tara Platt sounded angrier in some scenes where Maaya Uchida did not, but whether that was merely her or active voice direction decision I couldn't say.
>>343764138
>8-4 has a track record for producing butchered localizations.
Is there any localization company that doesn't?
>>343764138
>claim bad dialogue
>provide no evidence
>this proves automata is already ruined
You would make a great politician.
>clothing damage removed from western release
>>343763901
>Neo "will literally eat any shit and highly approves of sanitised localisations" fag doesn't care
Wow, I guess it'll all be fine!
>>343760590
Good think I speak moon.
>>343761405
GOD FUCKUING DAMNNNNNNNNNN
>>343764148
>everyone ignoring this because they want something to be mad about
wew
>>343764273
>lol i blew you lmao
>pottery meme
>>343764148
THIS
H
I
S
>>343764234
Proud Platinum drone here. I will play it for the gameplay, so I will buy the Japanese version.
Go fuck yourself.
>>343764295
8-4 did Nier 1 and D3.
I don't know. They did okay with that.
>>343764138
Give an example of a contractor-localization team that doesn't butcher Japanese games. I'll wait.
>>343764409
>Being ruined so hard that you resort to posts like that
Truly pottery.
This is some monkey paw shit.
>>343761493
One's power level was all over the fucking place in that manga, but it was still a good read.
Who /buying japanese version/ here?
>>343764234
>same people that did Nier 1 is doing Automata
>haha you fools it won't be as good as the first one
>>343764148
It's just three of us trying to talk down a brigade of shitposters who smelled blood in the water as soon as the thread hit three replies.
No one really believes this is a doomsday scenario, it's just obvious bait and falseflaggers.
>>343763496
>>343760590
>they worked on original NieR that is one of the best localizations, script and VA casting wise
>but they also worked on DoD3
I'm really not sure what to feel right now.
>>343764454
Xseed, Square Enix
>>343764435
They ruined D3. They completely changed Zero's personality, she's far more likable in the Japanese version, and removed the /ss/ Five/Zero had with Dito by aging him up. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
>>343764504
>trying to say someone is shitposting while you spam memes endlessly
>>343764550
Localization's job is to spice up boring Japanese dialogue.
>>343764434
>I mash the X X X X and the y y y y y
>I dive into sequels first just because my meme developer makes them
FUCK OFF
>>343764148
In short they respect the script.
I don't see any problem here.
>>343761450
>You're out of hamburgers
>>343764532
>Same people that did Nier 1 are doing Gunvolt
>What could possibly go wrong?
Has there been an issue in the past where directly translating a Japanese game for Western audiences was poorly received? I just want to understand why they feel they need to localize it for English speakers. And I'm not talking about graphics like dlc hiding Tharja's bikini ass, I mean gameplay and dialogue.
>>343764254
No, they still make fun of Zonda. Why would you lie on the internet?
>>343764583
> and removed the /ss/ Five/Zero had with Dito by aging him up. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
While your first point is absolutely spot on, pigeons only have a lifespan of six years.
>>343761254
Please get out of my hobby
>>343764538
Assuming there are actual concerned people among the shitposters, they were most likely not going to buy the game at release anyway. Nier 1 died because fags who said they would support the game sat at the sidelines anyway. I don't expect anything else for the sequel.
>>343764583
>Dito by aging him up.
Anon, that is a legality issue. Age ups always are.
>>343764325
The very concept of "localization" means butchering, so no, there isn't
>>343764435
>D3
>Drakengard 3
>"okay"
Eat shit.
>>343764605
>"dude lmao memes xD"
>Implying you didn't get well and truly shit on
weebs complaining about this shit are fucking retarded. Story is irrelevant in an action game anyways.
Why's everyone so scared of 8-4? I thought they did a pretty good job with the first Nier.
>>343764148
>>343764632
That was back then, though.
This is the 8-4 that did Drakengard 3 and fucking Gunvolt, the latter of which was such a total hackjob that they had to completely redo it for the Steam release.
>>343764580
None of those are contractors you mongoloid. They are publishers with in-house translation teams. Christ.
>>343764656
>Has there been an issue in the past where directly translating a Japanese game for Western audiences was poorly received?
Poorly received as in no one bought the game? Probably every one
>>343764710
>Anon, that is a legality issue.
Let's assume it is, they could just avoid mentioning his age like they did with Senran Kagura. It's all censorship but at least that's less egregious than changing something.
Still doesn't excuse Zero's personality completely changing.
>>343764747
Fuck off retard
>>343764148
It's alright, Bateman. I read that part of the article.
I understand.
>>343764305
You know what I meant, mate.
She was a lot more anger than the constant lethargic JP Zero.
I wholeheartedly assume it was the voice directors fault.
>>343764583
>Angry bitch Zero
>Unlikable
Before you sperg out like an autist, I'm not saying I want them to change shit. I'm saying angry Zero was still likeable.
Lethargic women are fucking boring.
>B-But Nier had a good localisation
No, it had a decent dub. The script lost a lot in the transition.
>>343764749
So did I.
Its what they've done since then that has me worried.
>There’s people in that company that really love the world we’ve created, and that is why they have really taken care in creating this localisation’.
How can people who love the world you created want to rewrite it because they don't have faith in it standing on its own two feet? Is everyone at 8-4 Tom Hulett?
>>343764721
>The very concept of "localization" means butchering, so no, there isn't
So why are you in this thread? You're just going to buy the Japanese ver anyway, so this doesn't do anything to you
>>343764721
There are 2 things to take away from it.
The voice direction first. Maybe the Director asked Platt to sound much more angry.
>>343764749
BECAUSE MUH ESS JAY DUBYAS.
>>343760871
Yes they did.
>being proud of changing the script of a game
>>343764550
Well how would you translate it?
"You godd-... sonnov-... f-" maybe?
>>343764818
>Before you sperg out like an autist, I'm not saying I want them to change shit. I'm saying angry Zero was still likeable.
Where did he say Angry Zero was unlikeable.
>>343764836
Provide examples.
I've asked this like nine times this thread and everyone INSTANTLY stops responding when I say it.
Provide.
Examples.
>>343764921
"You... You... You..."
>>343764138
>call someone a dipshit and challenge them to respond to your narrative, saying they will just ignore you
>they do respond and easily point out the flaws of your position
>you ignore them and say the same thing you already did while patting yourself on the back about being right
Too obvious, be more subtle.
>>343764921
>You...! You...! You...!
You know, exactly what it says, instead of rewriting it into some stupid bullshit because I think it'll be edgier and cooler that way.
>>343764818
>>Before you sperg out like an autist, I'm not saying I want them to change shit
The point I was making is that she isn't faithful to how she was originally envisioned and you know this.
>>343764797
No, I mean English speakers, or people in the West, getting mad about Japanese stuff. Like angry that onigiri isn't translated to donuts. The only thing I can really think of is people in the West demanding that From Software make the Souls games easier
You will never be Japanese, /v/.
