Give me ONE legitimate reason to pirate
It's free.
your gay
You can spend the money that you would have spent on video games on stuff that you need to stay alive, e.g. food.
>>343758173
You can get free games without paying a single penny.
Money is for food and bills
>>343758252
*happy
>>343758173
You get to play the latest games without having to supporting a corrupt and creatively bankrupt industry
It's free and you can use the money for other things, like food, bills and other video games that can't be pirated.
Piratefags are leeches, it's true, if I had more disposable income, I'd pay for all my games, but I don't.
>>343758173
Region locked console, game is not released in your country.
>>343758173
You can obtain things that are either stupidly difficult or impossible to obtain, like certain Japanese games.
I only pirate music CDs because of this. Some are just stupid hard to find.
some games are made by companies you can't stand but still want to play regardless
if you really don't want to pirate, just borrow games from your friends. same difference, only they payed the game and you didn't
>>343758173
>Give me ONE legitimate reason to pirate
I live in a third world shithole and the average 60$ price tag, which first worlders consider not much, equals to one fifth of the minimum wage here.
I already spend a fucking fortune building a pc, my ass is already full of cum by the time I build a decent PC, I have very little money to spend on games.
Saving money?
>>343758742
But another console from that region then?
I pirate because I don't find it immoral.
I'm just changing the 1s and 0s on the harddrive that I own.
>>343758879
Don't get a first world hobby in your azbekistani land then.
NO MONEY
If I have absolutely no money to buy vidya, then I'll support the devs by giving them free publicity.I'm a Todd poster
>>343758173
I really hate videogames. So I torrent every single one of them to bloat statistics about piracy and companies will invest more into copy protection. Suck it up, faggots.
>>343758939
>I'm just changing the 1s and 0s on the harddrive that I own.
holy shit
files are just 1s and 0s
if you made the right combo of 1s and 0s you could make half-life 3 appear
>>343758939
>I'm just changing the 1s and 0s on the harddrive that I own.
Ah, teenagers sharing their supposed intellect, how fun.
I hate people that say "if I like a game then I'll buy it!" are you such a fucking sheep that you'll pay money for something you got for free?
>>343758594
Why would you pirate videogames if you don't like them?
>>343759365
I'll usually buy a game after pirating, not out of some moral obligation, that's stupid, but because I want multiplayer or updates and shit.
>>343758973
>don't do something you want because businesses should always get your money
fuck off, faggot. if someone lives in a 3rd world country they can pirate and play whatever they want, nothing you can do about it you fucking bootlicking pansy.
>>343758173
I wanted to play Hotline Miami 2 in Australia
The Devs told Australians to Pirate the game if they could not purchase it
is that reason good enough for you?
>pay money for a game
or
>get it for free
No real explanation is needed to show why pirating is superior.
>>343758173
I can get something at no cost while causing no harm to others.
>>343759518
careful, people here believe stealing is immoral and their neo-liberal overlords wouldn't like us getting free shit, so neither do they.
No, I won't give you a reason. Why would I?
>>343759569
But stealing is immoral. It's a question of not giving a shit about that.
>>343758173
shits free
>>343759678
>stealing is immoral
only when it's from people's personal property, not when it's from multi-million dollar devs and publishers.
>>343759787
Yes it is. It doesn't matter if it's a cent from a million: it's still immoral, are you a bad enough dude to not care 'bout that?
>>343758173
Pirates are degenerate scum
BAD GOYIM! PAY FOR THE GAMES DEVS WORKED VERY HARD ON!
>>343758173
Let's say I want to play VTM:B. The developper was Troika, which got fucked by Activision. If I buy VTM:B I am giving absolutely nothing to Troika, but money to Activision and empowering their disgusting practices.
Let's say that during Steam summer sales I buy GTA IV. If I want to play the game I just purchased I need to download Games for Windows Live, even though it should only be needed for multiplayer, multiplayer I cannot access anyway, and then I need to manually disable restrictions because some way or another the game decided that 300 was waaaay too close to 3000 to let me change the resolution and graphics of my game. 1200 on 3000 is fine though.
By pirating the game I save myself that fucking hassle, DRM on an 8 year old game and end up with a superior experience.
Almost nobody cares for delivering a nice consumer-friendly product. It's all day one 8 euros DLC for a race that is in the game, 3 euros for blood splatter, etc...
Anything to discourage those practices.
>>343758173
1. Abandonware
2. Games not available in your region
Here's two, now leave.
>>343759857
wow, you're a spineless fucking imbecile. "stealing even a cent from a billionaire is wrong!", fuck off Milquetoast.
I don't need one
>>343759927
good goyim
>>343758173
Devs stopped releasing demos, for the most part, which had always been the best legal way to test out a game. Reviews were always bullshit.
I can spend the money on my expensive tuition.
>>343758173
>reason
Because I don't mind doing bad things every once and awhile to get what I want. I don't think it's justified in any way. I hate threads like this and people trying to argue that copying isn't theft. Just get to the point. That's the reason I pirate games. I buy them if it's multiplayer.
>>343759994
Communism.
It's fast and free
If I love a series I'll buy the game and the sequel. I don't remember the last time I bought a AAA game however
>>343758173
there is no demo currently available
or the demo asks for things like making an account with verified email address
>>343760091
you know, come to think of it demos only stopped being a thing when games devs started promising more and more bullshit they didn't intend to actually implement. "you can climb that mountain" and all these graphic downgrades wouldn't be a problem if demos existed still, but then shitty AAA games wouldn't get those precious preoders.
>>343758173
Not having to install Uplay/Origin.
>>343760134
keep licking those boots, I'm sure Todd will personally service your anus for defending his coin purse as a reward.
>>343760091
I miss demo CDs attached to vidya magazines.
>>343758173
morality is a spook
So you can sing sea shanties with the crew on /v/
COME ON LADS SING ME A SONG
>>343760360
But I pirate like a motherfucker, I just don't embarrass myself trying to justify it over the interwebz :^)
The game is no longer available for purchase. Example: outrun 2006 coast 2 coast.
If you don't like paying for shit I guess
I'm not a pirate and I don't really care if someone else pirates but I just hate people that act like they have some kind of excuse for pirating shit, or worse that they have a moral high ground while doing it. Just own up to the fact that you're a cheap motherfucker nobody really cares.
PIRATING PROs:
- Free
PIRATING CONs:
- Morality
- Illegality
ADDITIONAL NOTEs:
- If you lack morality and don't care about an ordered society, it's easy to pirate.
- if you believe simply because you can do something, and no one can hold you accountable, then "It must be fine, right guys?" (Basically that unless someone could stop you, you steal everything because fuck it who can stop me right?)
- You have traded away your honour and dignity as a member of an ordered society
- You therefore do not deserve its benefits
- You therefore are a criminal
- You therefore have no opinion worth hearing on piracy
- Therefore, your opinion is invalid
It's kinda funny when you think about it, because when you break it down to its barest elements, Pirates either don't understand their own decisions and are basically petulant children yelling "Me me mine all mine!"
OR
They're sociopaths who honesty believe they are not beholden to the rule of law.
Either way, you're a degenerate and your opinion is invalidated by your very nature - there is no rational, moral, or logical way to discuss ethics with a pirate; they're constitutionally incapable.
>>343760458
are you expecting some upvotes, faggo?.
>>343759569
This is about pirating, not stealing.
>>343760509
keep getting cucked by corporations while I enjoy playing some fucking video games for free
>>343758173
abandon ware
There is one good reason not to pirate. Theft is a sin and sinners go to hell.
PCucks everyone
>>343760610
Thank you for proving my point.
Ladies and gentleman of /v/ - I give you the degenerate of which I was referring too:
Kudos sir, for proving, beyond a shadow of doubt, that you are everything I said you were.
>being so poor that 60$ is a lot of money to you
why did you drop out, anon? you could've lived such a better life
>>343759493
Haha I got u mad :D
>>343760539
It's faggot, faggot.
When a pirated copy runs unironically better due to removing DRM or its associated uplay/steam/etc and you own it
Or its tied to gfwl which is dead
Check
Mate
>>343758173
demos don't exist anymore
>>343760735
yes, truly your logic is perfect. one of such a feeble mind as me could not hope to compete with your superior intellectual prowess. I can but tip my hat to you, good sir.
>>343758173
Pirating is necessary due to the nature of the videogame industry.
Game development is increasingly focused towards marketing, and outlandish promises. Games sell well not due to their objective quality but because they have 500 million in marketing budget, the developers make untrue but exciting claims (see that mountain?) and are generally dishonest in pre-release. Videogames profit is primarily generated through pre-orders now (e.g. selling the idea, no matter how true, of a game rather than the game itself). Every single big budget game and even indie stuff has for example had embellished trailers designed to build up hype while hiding the actual quality of the product. Add to this that developers now shun game demos where before they were a staple of videogame releases, not to mention the unreliability of videogame critics. Therefore, pirating has become the only possibility in 90% of cases to test the game out before purchase.
SOLUTION: Re-introduce game demos. Stop lying to your potential customers about your games. Focus on making good games rather than making good marketing. Introduce a decent refunding system too (and don't try to get around it with episodic releases like Hitman or with hour long intro like Fallout 4).
intellectual property doesn't exist
>>343758173
you can acquire games you barely like without giving money to a company you hate
like fallout and borderlands
>>343758173
>when the current copyright holders aren't selling or distributing the game anymore and are just sitting on it letting it rot
>when its not certain who the rights owners are and the original publishers and devs disbanded or went out of business and the game is abandon ware
My computer is kind of a toaster and i pirate in order to find out if the game runs on it well enough.
>>343758247
The thread should have ended right there.
I live in a third world shithole and purchasing non-physical goods for what ammounts half of a month's salary is simply not viable. Also sometimes it's not even possible perhaps to pay, even if you wanted to.
>>343758173
Free shit
>but muh morals!
deal with it
>>343760509
>>343759365
Sometimes I like the game so much I think it's worth the money.
>have disposable income
>still pirate every game
>>343760735
Not him but pirating something like fallout 4 is fine since they're a shit company that release shitty bug ridden products that only get worse.
I wouldn't pay someone to not only do a shit job but to continue doing a shittier and shittier job
However i would pay for a nice quality game or a decent quality game by a small dev/studio
>>343762561
My dad, who is a engineer and a rabid cycling fan, buys 3000 euros bikes and ask me to pirate 300 euros maps for him to use and plan routes.
I think it's cultural thing + living as a dirtpoor farmer in his youth. Some people are jews and some throw money they don't have through the windows.
>>343758939
>I pirate because I don't find it immoral
t.Stirner
>>343758173
Gamedevs stopped releasing demos
>>343762561
>own business
>write off games as "software expenses"just kidding i actually pirate everything
I know demos aren't really a thing anymore but all I've seen the past few years is open betas from every god damn game in existence. Demos were always cherry picked sections of a game that always ended right before a threatening menace shows up.
The only reason I dont pirate that much anymore is that I got tired of getting infected CD cracks that nearly kill my pc. Any games I do pirate are either ones I cant find anymore or are so old I know that no publisher would ever care.
>>343758173
because i can
>>343758173
Because most games aren't worth more than 30-40 bucks but the publishers keep slapping 60$ price tags on everything, even if it's just 4 hours of mildly entertaining singleplayer gameplay.
So Ill pirate or wait for a sale, whichever is more convenient.
>tfw console owner
>own pc but it shits itself running Witcher 2 even on low
>can't play any pc game unless it's on low since the new gen started in 2013
>Dark souls 2 runs at full 60 fps max settings somehow
>Dark souls 3 runs like shit
>bought overwatch on PS4 because it ran like ass on PC
>can't afford better parts because wage slave
OOOOOKAY BUYFAGS, TELL ME,
tell me ONE game that had good reviews but sold so poorly that the studio who made it had to fire staff, even though the game was heavily pirated
>>343764598
try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsdshm_4T5c helped me a fuck load
>>343758173
Games are cultural as well as commercial. When the latest highly anticipated AAA game comes out, in gamer circles its an event. Its something to talk about. In that particular frame of mind games are art as well as industry.
I would absolutely pirate a game if I wanted to take part in the public discourse, actually wanted to know what the fuck I was talking about, but not support the developers or publishers.
Basically, the stance most of 4chan takes.
>used to pirate everything
>get minimum wage job
>no longer pirate anything
it's fun to collect
Because games are going the fallout/skyrim/ck2/civ5/stallaris route where the game is either poorly made or made with the expectation modders will fix it.
I don't support multi-billion dollar companies putting as little effort needed while still insultingly asking for 60+ dollars for a game that's tied into so much extra bullshit like Origin or Steam.
So I'll pirate your game, play it for an hour and get bored while moving on to the next.
>>343764830
I hope youve played every single one of those games you've purchased.
Its one thing to say a game is worth your money, but are they worth your time?
>>343764984
I've had meltdowns before because I won't have enough time in my life to play all the games I currently own, let alone the games that will come out in the next 60 years before I am too old to play games.
I've only played about 30%. On the plus side of it, I don't buy $60 triple A games because I currently have $20 triple A games from 2010 to finish.
>>343765107
Im just saying you should consider whether or not you'll actually get around to playing a game when youre at the point of purchase. Make it part of your decision making. Could save you money later on.
I know for a fact that Ive wasted at least 100$ on games Ill never pick up.
>>343765698
I don't care about the money though. Even if I don't play the game, it's still fun to collect it in an e-library.
>>343758173
1. No money goes to the original creators for older good games anyway
2. No new games are worth money as they are unfinished pandering censored buggy shits
3. Because you can
>>343765795
Well since you're feeling so very charitable, how would you feel about adding a frashly made account to family share?
>>343766507
nah I don't like family sharing
here's a list of spare indie keys if you any of this garbage tho
>>343758879
Man America sounds rough, Sorry anon.
This thread is cancer. Stop replying to shit posts, Reddit immigrants. If you're going to shit up this website at least pretend you're not a fucking retard. Lurk moar
>>343766808
this post is cringey
>>343758173
If you really dislike a developer and you just want to stick it to them by getting their game for free and shitpost pictures of you uninstalling it
>>343759787
What's the cut off point? How much does the owner/ceo have to be earning before it's not immoral?
>don't mind me, just pirating this martini!
>>343758173
I cannot comprehend the concept of intellectual property.
>>343767061
>what are replicator rations
That said the whole concept of how the federation works is a capitalist's worst nightmare.
>mfw got a job and haven't pirated a single game in 5 years
>>343758247
first toast best toast
>>343758369
Yeah so why don't devs get any if you pirate
>>343760395
>install demo from game magazine cd
>it damages windows installation
that was always fun and happened a lot for some reason in the 90s
>>343758173
EA games, Ubisoft, Microsoft
>>343768139
this
Compared to rent, car insurance, health insurance, phone, etc video games are nothing
>>343758173
My computer is a piece of shit and nobody does demos any more. But now I can just do Steam returns. Almost every game I own on Steam I pirated at some point to see if it would even run.
>Uplay
>Origin
>>343758173
>implying I even bother justifying piracy
My reason is I want the game, but I don't want to pay for it. Deal with it loser.
>>343760509
So the argument is between a bunch of people who are enjoying themselves, and a bunch of people arguing that everyone should be just as shit as they are, and supposedly I should be rooting for the latter.
>>343764595
>even if it's just 4 hours of mildly entertaining singleplayer gameplay.
If you're not that interested in the game why play it in the first place? If the movie stinks, just don't go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YigM-F4oSIE
>>343758915
>spend 500 dollars to spend 60 more dollars
Yeah no
I don't give a shite.
>>343758173
>Dead studio
>no way to get it legitimately
>Game is overpriced (though you could still wait indefinitely for a sale)
>it's a game you want to try but you know you would never pay for it
>>343758173
>Give me ONE legitimate reason to pirate
Not sure if you're still here OP, but I have never pirated a new game, I buy all of them, always. But I still have a legitimate reason to pirate which I do sometimes: a lot of fantastic old games simply are not for sale at all anymore, period. It doesn't matter if you're willing to pay the devs or not because they won't take your money. This applies to most titles from the 80s or 90s, and sadly even to some from the early 00s already.
To the law, there is absolutely zero difference in pirating a brand new title available on Steam, GOG and direct in unlimited numbers vs some minor bit of shareware from 1988. Both are willful copyright infringement, and copyright is eternal now (legally technically it's not because that'd be unconstitutional, but SCOTUS greenlighted retroactive extensions for thousands of years so effectively it's eternal now) so in 100 years that 1988 title will still be just as protected as today. Most emulators are all infringing copyright too and you're a pirate just for using one.
But morally and philosophically, at least in America, copyright was SUPPOSED to (in the Constitution) serve the public interest by encouraging production and ongoing availability. Using copyright to make mass production works vanish is literally the opposite of the entire foundational point, and I think it's completely justified to ignore it in that case.
By the same token, I think the same of any title that's geo-restricted and would approve of that for any other anons worldwide. If they won't fucking sell it to you, they don't get to bitch if you pirate it.
There are no demos anymore.
>>343768913
they do
>>343758173
very few offer demos anymore
>>343770231
>Dead studio
>no way to get it legitimately
Both completely good, legit reasons.
>Game is overpriced (though you could still wait indefinitely for a sale)
This one is horseshit though. Vidya is a luxury good, what it's "worth" should be defined by how much you want to play it vs price. If it's "overpriced" it shouldn't be worth it to play it at all, there are tons of other games you could play instead. If you can't stand not waiting for it, then it's worth what they're charging.
>it's a game you want to try but you know you would never pay for it
This seems dumb too, same reason as above, if you want to play it then it's worth money. I'm surprised actually you went with this vs the much more reasonable and legit:
>"it's a game you want to try to see if you want to buy it, but they offer no demo or trial mode"
Particularly on the PC even genuinely good games might be unplayable on some people's systems for technical reasons and I think taking it for a spin for an hour is definitely justified.
>>343770731
Only by abandoning vidya. Maybe you should try that too if you're such a poorfag food is a concern.
>>343758173
ftfy
>>343758173
because you don't have to pay money
>>343770896
Some games are overpriced though. I think we all have an idea of what a 5, 10, 20 or 60 dollar game means to us.
Now that we have self publishing and platforms like Steam, some devs can ask $80 for what other devs would put up as $10.
I'm making a distinction here between "a lot of money" and "overpriced".
For example, there's a fantastic little game called Out There that sells for around 10 dollars. This is reasonable considering the content and production of the game. It's a good game and it's apparent if you watch gameplay of it.
However, I would never pay 30, 60, 80 dollars for it. Even 25 is pushing it a little. This isn't a perfect example though, because I would like to support this dev and just waited for a sale.
I hope you know better what I mean.
And then there's just like, horseshit terrible game like whatever simulator or a 3D sonic game that you play for that experience, or maybe you know you'll only play it for like 15 minutes before getting bored.
Just to be clear, I myself do not pirate games, except if it's abandonware. Growing up only buying games on physical media has kind of instilled this in me. For some reason it's a line I don't cross.
I forgot to also mention games that you've bought before and don't want to pay for again.
I'm sick of these faggots that try to say that people who pirate don't buy the game after they've played it or that they are just making an excuse.
I pirated New vegas, Oblivion, Skyrim, and super Street fighter 4. Yet I now own all of them and paid like $35 for skyrim.
>>343759257
Exactly.
Then if the police asks you tell them it's a really big number. Like really big. Very many bits. Oh it launches half life if you name it to .exe and launch as a program? Didn't know about that. Weird.
>>343771807
>Some games are overpriced though. I think we all have an idea of what a 5, 10, 20 or 60 dollar game means to us.
Sure, but for a luxury good "overpriced" means "don't buy it until the price falls". By definition, it's not worth paying at that price because it's not worth it to you to both playing it for that much money, you're happy to wait. But if you can't stand to wait then by definition it's not overpriced, that's how it works. That's why vidya is priced the way it is, starting high for people who can't wait, then cutting and cutting and finally getting into deep sale territory as it moves into the long tail.
Let's be honest anon: even if we stick to purely fuckwin awesome vidya, there is literally more content now on the PC then is humanly possible for any of us to play, even if we devoted our lives to it. Not even touching console emu at all, and that's even before getting into mods. We're also long past the point of diminishing returns in graphics and such, which means that even semi-old games (last decade say) can still stand toe-to-toe with modern stuff (picture related, now approaching a decade old).
So to me there is no fucking excuse if you think something is overpriced to not just wait it out, there is absolutely guaranteed to be incredible vidya for fucking dirt pocket change available that you haven't played yet. Most of /v/ all have backlogs a mile long too. "Oh I just have to play the latest trendy thing so I can talk about it with my boyfriend but it's overpriced :( :( :(" is shit.
>I forgot to also mention games that you've bought before and don't want to pay for again.
This is another fair one tho. Just because you bought the 1s and 0s on a CD back in the day doesn't mean you should have to buy them again digital. I'll add to you here and say "old BS DRM", I bought some old C&C games way back and I'm too lazy to find a ripper that'll work on them so I "pirated" them, but it's not like I don't have the fucking disc right here.
>>343758939
>I'm just changing the 1s and 0s on the harddrive that I own.
Yeah, just like child porn. Why don't you "change some 1s and 0s on your hard drive" to that and then try that line on the police and tell /v/ how it goes.
>>343760091
This
I was going to never purchase Doom and never play it because of denuvo until they release the demo
Ended up buying it.
>support developer X franchise
>they change X franchise
want a better legit reason?
i rather not throw away 60€ in a posible shit game .and dont tell me shit about demos , those are just lies
I can and it's free
Piracy is dead anyway thanks to this new security thing developers are using thats impossible to crack....so far
>>343761149
This. If the industry doesn't respect me why should I respect them?
>>343758173
can try the game and see if its shit or even runs on your PC
also if the game is a piece of shit which needs mods to make it good then why would you pay money for it?
The entire existence of Ubisoft and EA.
>>343773764
she looks so big but she's only 5ft8 lol
>>343773764
Only real answer in the thread
Aliens: Colonial Marines is an example
DOOM(2016) is an example, ran like shit for me
>>343773764
>even runs on your PC
a thousand times this, "minimal specs" on games is such bullshit. I've bought multiple games that don't even work on their "minimum specs"
Honestly I buy almost all of my games used, so I'm not in any position to call pirates scum.
So many games are just boring rehashed cliche garbage, I'd rather pay 55 dollars for a used copy than support shit developers.
>>343774031
>DOOM(2016) is an example, ran like shit for me
RAGE was a better example, opinions on the game itself aside it is one of the best examples in recent years of a game that'd run fine on one set of cards and had all sorts of weird bugs on another. People shouldn't have to deal with that shit.
>I defend big millionaire corporations for free because "is the right thing to do".
>>343758252
>your
>>343758173
I live in a third world country and we pirate everything here
>>343759994
Stupid cock. Taking something that isn't yours is the lowest a human being can go. Kill yourself you worthless bag of scum.
>>343779282
So only the billionaire can do it, right?
>>343758173
made by EA
I pirated Dragons Dogma before it released, despite already having pre-ordered the game.
I couldn't wait another couple days, the hype was too strong.
>>343779413
Stealing is putting yourself on their level. Stop jumping to conclusions.
>>343760509
>PIRATING CONs:
>- Morality
>>343758343
>buy computer
>pay for Internet
>free
You're average pc gaymer everyone!
>>343758247
Holy shit!
Thread fucking over!
>>343758791
This
Steven Wilson is a cunt for not releasing his stuff in Finland or through Spotify
>>343780126
So if a spider bites you, you don't have to kill it because you'll be on the same level?
Fuck that if billionaires steal from me, I'll steal from them.
Has someone posted the dwarf defending his piracy by just not giving a fuck instead of jumping through hoops and trying to rationalize it? Because that's my view
I just don't really care, I'll get this for free if I want. Maybe, just maybe I'll buy it if it's on sale on steam to get auto updates.
People don't give a fuck if you pirate. Most people's music libraries are 99% pirated.
People only notice your autism when you act smug and get a sense of superiority about whether you pirate or not.
Another legimate reason to pirate I haven't seen mentioned yet is because you can often get leaks and be playing, watching, listening to, or reading whatever you are interested in months before the street release date.
>>343780259
Would you want someone to pirate your game?
I pirated Pokemon Black and White.
I hadn't played Pokemon since Gold/Silver back then.
After I finished it on my emulator, I bought a brand new NDS and Pokemon Black.
Would have never done that if I hadn't played it before.I also bought Pokemon X on release and a used 3DS because I couldn't spend money on a new one at that time
>>343758252
>his gay
>>343781708
>should of been my gay
>>343780295
>being this retarded yet self opinionated
>you're
Your average console idiot, everyone.
>>343782017
>Not all console users
Your average internet bully, senpai
>>343761149
>defending piracy as if it was a moral obligation of the utmost righteousness
the fucking nerve
althought you are correct, the industry having been corrupted to shit because it makes too much money, it doesn't mean you are right in pirating games of companies that do not share this bullshit (for example, japanese videogames) because that's when the just pay for the sinners
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>>343782017
Abandonware.
>>343782643
> fallacy fallacy
>>343758173
That's easy
It's a Bethesda game.
>Pirate it when it comes out
>Buy it when it's on sale
Simple
I rarely pirate unless it's for a game that I don't think is worth buying (either its pretty poopy and I wanna try it or because the devs don't get the money aka vampire bloodlines)
>>343758173
Buying games blindly is retarded.
I don't have money.
I wouldn't be able to play them.
>>343781708
>he doesn't keep his gay locked in a collar on a leash as he walks around town
why wouldn't you pirate nigga it's free
>no demos! reviews are paid off!
wow god 4bid you look up the game and read something that isn't a review and make your own opinion
>money is for food and bills!
LOL gl for the rest of your life when you can't find <=$60 to spend on a game
>pirating and stealing are two different things!
???????????????
just fucking wait for a game to actually come out, the price drops and you can just read all the material you want about it and buy it. not being able to wait for a video game to come out to something cheaper than already cheap is pretty autistic
I do not find it morally wrong. Also, free shit.
Wouldn't mind if people pirated my games. I don't believe that piracy hurts sales after all.
>>343787832
>read something that isn't a review
like waht?
