Zero Time Dilemma
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In today's episode: Uchi picks "Betray"
Fucking snail
>>343757000
I hate that guy.
Somebody post this "see? this is my power" image pleaes
What were his motives again?
>>343757731
C O M P L E X
WHY DO PEOPLE
Why last thread was deleted?
Still can't belive into invisible old man. It's 100% ass pull. No one even say Sean untill this fuckin moment. They're suspicions about everyone but completely okay with "blind" and "deaf" guy following them in wheelchair everywhere?
>>343757731Create a timeline where 9 espers perfected their abilities and were in his command and are willing to risk their lives to save the world
>>343757971
I want to fuck carlos
>>343757731
>>343757000
Wait a second
Would his plan work without snails?
Does that mean he mindhacked snails? Or trained them?
If it wasall the same ward, where didGab go every time he was sent into the vents? Was hemind hacked to just stay in there until the right time?
>Mira and Sean want to kill snail
FUTURE RUINED
>>343758261
You didn't read the post game files, did you?
>>343757845
There are shadows in many scenes, Q is never referred to as a child, Q's X-passes reference his eyes and age, and no one ever says there's only 9 people in the shelter.
>>343758261
HE HAS A NICE RUG TO SIT ON
>>343758253
it's perfect
>not using this for the OP
>be simple wannabe world savior
>your woman kills majority of world population because she's a qt
>your son does everything so world can stay this way
>basically every time shit hits the fan, it happens because you knocked up a redhead
life is simply unfair
>>343758253
Seansteel edit when
>>343758325
>>343758451
>instant doubt, i bet it's not there
>get vita, check through files
>
>fuck
Fuck.
Mira and Eric shifting at the end was the dumbest part of the whole game
THREADLY REMINDER
>>343757812
BULLSHIT EACH OTHER?
>>343758572His son crafted the timeline where the Dcom team had the desire and willpower to seek out the terrorist who'd kill 8 billion.
>dat Back to the Future reference
Instead of shifting to a timeline where they won the coin toss, why didn't they shift to before that when they met each other at dcom? Delta's stupid bullshit would've still been there
>>343759182
>Now it's like that movie about time traveling car.
>Back to the Future?
>NO NOT THAT ONE
>>343759248
Because whole story is retarded and characters actions in this game are the worst from the whole trilogy.
Returning characters were there to stop the virus and brother, yet they done fucking nothing, 90% of the time acted like they had no fucking idea why they are here. Akana is the worst example
>my master plan is to act clueless and sperg out everytime something happen to Junpei
>>343759085
>that annotation
>>343758749
Who is worse characters?
>Retarded Akane and Jumpei
or
>psycho killers Eric and Mira
?
>>343759470
>you'll never play as Gab
The final dialogue where Zero tells the teamthat they haven't got shit on him and despite the fact that they went in with the desire to stop Radical-6 it was Zero who crafted the timeline that will save humanityis fucking top tier.
Pic related
What was the first "OHH SHIT" moment for you lads?
Pic related was mine. I literally fell for those body parts being fakes.
>>343759902
This was the first puzzle room I got to.
Good start.
>>343759902
>dat half head in the corner
A subtle spook.
>>343759902
>I only just realised those body parts weren't fake.
Oh shit.
>That one hand frozen into a fist.
>>343759902
How did Mira kill Junpei?
>tfw
>>343760014
Chainsaw
So did anyone else really enjoy this game?
>>343759489
retarded akane and junpei
junpei was only good the one time he flirted with carlos
>>343759902
I made to this room late and plot twist was already spoilered to me because in other fragment Carlos saw this head.
Fragments system was shitty desu
>>343760062
>thanks guys for the effort so we were able to fuck this game because of appealing to the new crowd
>>343760014
Why this bitch and Eric got happy end?
>Mira is serial killer
>Eric is psycho who can kill little kids and woman without any problems and feeling of guilt
>>343758115
I'd rather seek a way into her vagina with my penis if you know what I mean
>>343760180
A bit rushed near the end but I enjoyed the closure
>>343760180
I enjoyed it a lot
>>343760294
Aren't you happy? You created a future where ZTD exists!
>>343758572
The world would be fine if Sigma didn't try to disarm the bomb.
>>343760349
Meanwhile Carlos is in the forever alone hell.
Life is unfair.
>>343760062
>tfw ZTD is worst game in trilogy
R11 = VLR > 999 > E17 > ZTD > N7
>>343760494
He's not forever alone, he's with his sister
>>343760494
He don't need pussy to validate his self worth.
He is the man who just get the shit done.
>>343760180
Enjoyed everything except ending
>>343759489
How was Junpei ever retarded? Akane sure, but Junpei decisions made plenty of sense; besides THE FUCK.
>>343760535
>sister
That's not a loli.
Life is unfair.
>>343760210
Screenshots or it didn't happen
>>343759902
>Eric is asking me who Zero is
>maybe Delta grew up to be evil? I'll put his name in
>oh god what's happening?
>>343760521
>not putting ever17 above everything else
>999 above ever17
nice baito
>>343760180
It was great, but it felt too short and small compared to VLR. Twists were good, but nothing mindshattering. Delta always being there was more "Wait. What. Really?!" moment than a moment like K's helmet coming off to reveal yourself, which was crazy. I think Uchi wanted to make a bigger game, but couldn't. So I'm okay with the result.
>>343758902
Give it a rest mate. Stop shitposting up the threads with your salty tears about things that were never gonna be answered.
>>343760521
VLR > Ever17 > ZTD > 999 > R11 > N7
I'll marry Carlos!
>>343760803
What so good about E17 except true route and can? It was your first VN? Piyoooo?
>>343760349
>read the epilogue file for Q Team>Mira is cured of being a psychopath through the power of love
>Eric and her are engaged and in true love now
>Sean fucking smashes through the prison to free her, and they plan to SHIFT backwards to prevent Mira from becoming a serial killer
>even if it means unraveling the whole fucking game because Mira is basically the source of all the calamity that occurs due to killing Eric's mother
>mfw
>>343760935
>he is baiting because he expected the game to be a closure to every plotline like we were promissed
Yeah, based Uchi or something
>>343761202
should have killed the snail
you can't be arrested for snail genocide
How can other ZE girls even compete?
>>343756789
how to play vlr without a 3ds
>>343761334
Play it on Vita
>>343761334
Vita or wait for the steam release
>>343761285
How would they be able to find a single snail? They need to unleash Radical 6 for that sweet 75% chance of killing it.
>>343761308
Boss Phi can.
>>343761438
I'm not taking any chances, let's nuke the world to get rid of snails.
>>343761285
Why is this even a snail fault?
Maybe he was going this route because the other one was blocked by the rock that was throwed by some kid who was throwing rocks because his dad was too poor to buy him a toy, and his dad was poor because....
This whole thing got out of hand, really
>>343761438
>Delta knows about snail
>still kill everyone
>>343761620
He needs to be born first.
>>343761202
They will just create another timeline. Or better saying, they already did, how can Uchi expect that we hype something that will use the same trope for the 999th time?
>>343761716
keked hard
>avoid /v/ for 3 weeks leading up the game's launch and while playing through the game
>tfw come back to this
>>343761587
Life is simply unfair...don't you think?
>>343761691
But this is paradox
>>343757793
G L O B A L
>>343761274
>we were promised
>>343760483
But innocent lives will die if he didn't try to!
Would she survive as a participant?
>>343759853
I need a Delta edit for this, this perfectly describes his smugness.
>>343761492
>short red hair that's dyed an unnatural color
>glasses
>dry snarky personality
>constantly accuses Sigma of sexual harassment and whines about how logical decisions might make others feel bad
Phi is literally Tumblr.
>>343759419
Read the prologue, retard.
>>343762039
K A N G S
>>343760180
same as >>343760564, everything was fun until the ending
>>343760808
>it felt too short and small compared to VLR
Is it? I think my VLR playtime was also 20-22 hours.
>>343760180
I'm satisfied. Game has issues (little original music, don't think the "cinematic" approach was better than the traditional VN format, fragment structure is still a bit fucked even with the plotwists justifying it, etc.) and you can tell the game was rushed/didn't include everything Uchi wanted to put in. Having said that, if 999 and VLR are 10/10s or 9/10s, ZTD is a solid 8/10. For the final game capping off a trilogy, they could have fucked it up significantly worse.
>>343761816
>n Uchi expect that we hype something that will use the same trope for the 999th time?
Uchi should use all tropes from R11 instead of invisible old man with complex motives, magic aliens, x-mens and power of friendship.
Baby colic > everything in ZTD
I've seen a lot of discussion put into this game regarding a lack of understanding for the twist and how certain things pan out with the transporter or why characters do certain things that they do, but personally, I'm more of a big picture kind of guy that can forgive plotholes here and there if they don't majorly get in the way of things. That being said, besides the little details that may bother, I'm more annoyed by a lot of the creative decisions that were made with this game, especially considering that this was supposed to be the final entry that wraps everything up, so I'm just gonna go through some things point by point that bothered me quite a bit once the game was over, since I honestly don't even know what specifically to focus on.
Diana, Phi and Sigma being a part of the game makes a lot of sense because they factor into the story a lot, not just in this game individually but also linking directly from the last game. Junpei and Akane feel a little out of place overall, I know that they also tie into VLR, but that sort of feels like the ONLY reason they're in the game, because besides actually tying their plots from this game to the next one, nothing much else happens with them plotwise regarding anything necessary to their pasts or character connections. Then you get to the rest of the cast with Carlos, Sean, Mira and Eric, and their inclusions come off as mostly unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, and that the only reason they were included is so that they could round out the number of participants to 9, just because that's how it was in the other games, because once you learn the basic backstory of these characters no other kind of interesting revelations or character developments happen, and really, you could have removed or changed any of them to help tie things into the plot better in relation to either any of the other participants or zero.
>Mira is a virgin
>Diana is a slut
I honestly didn't see that coming.
>>343762597
The main twist of the game also doesn't stack up to the twists of the last two games, from either a logical or emotional perspective. In the first game, you spend the entire game asking yourself a few specific questions, like "Why was I kidnapped and put through this" and "Who is Zero?" and ultimately, everything built up to answering and resolving these questions, same with the sequel, but with ZTD these questions almost come off as less important or less pertinent due to the way that everyone volunteered to be a part of the experiment, and the "Who is Zero?" question is given less room to work with since you know that it's not going to be one of the on screen characters, because you straight up see Zero walk up to everyone at the start for the coin flip, so by the time you see who Zero actually is, it's no where near as shocking as finding out who Zero was in the previous two games.
In the first two games, you were dumped into a situation where you're a (Seemingly) normal person with a variety of other characters, which over time you slowly come to converse with and understand over the course of the game, in ZTD, all of the characters are split into teams of 3, and only ever stay with their respective team members for the course of the game, which unlike the first two games, means you get a lot of redundancy in terms of characterization for the different situations the characters find themselves in, instead of having the characters constantly split apart with different team members for different conflicts or information. I would have actually forgiven this system if something interesting had been done with it involving how your perspective of time and space was being played with, but ultimately everything was pretty much how it seemed to be with the exception of the needless ward twist.
>>343762661
The Fragment system is an interesting idea that could have interesting applications for a story like this, but not only doesn't justify it's own existence by the end, but creates problems the series didn't have before this point. The game starts off on a similar note of being trapped in a mysterious environment by a crazed killer and being forced to play a game to escape, but unlike the other games in the series, falls into a massive repeating pattern due to the memory erasing drugs essentially meaning that almost every fragment has to begin under the assumption that it could have been the first one you picked, meaning that consistent character development doesn't start until about the 2/3 mark of the game when they finally start shifting through the timelines, since they can finally start retaining memories, and don't need to explain their pasts again to the other characters.
This isn't even so much a criticism about the game itself and more a problem with the fact that this is third game we've encountered these things in. In the first game, it was a genuine mystery as to what was happening, because it was the first game in the series, and wasn't building off any of kind of established plot. You wake up on a sinking ship, you all have bombs placed inside your chests, and overall there's this kind of oppresive, sickening feeling in the air of the entire game, as it feels like death has weight and there are actual horrible things happening. The second game tones down the oppressive atmosphere and instead focuses more on the mystery of the situation and characters, which I was totally fine with, personally.
Blick-Winkel here, don't forget the ZTD stream starts next Friday at the usual time.
hitbox / blick-winkel
>>343762597
I think Mira and Eric are just there to introduce an element of threat. A game with nine Luna's wouldn't be very scary.
So, what parts were ripped off from Ever17 this time? What comes to mind for me is:
>awkwardly shoehorned inexpressive dog companion (Coco's dog/Gab)
>characters stuck in shelter eating bland rations, resulting in one of them eventually freaking out at the tedium and eating the same food every day (Kid/Diana)
And of course, the SHIFT shenanigans at the end are a given.
>>343762742
The problem with ZTD is that it simultaneously wants to recreate the oppressive atmosphere of the first game, while also recreated the sense of mystery from the second game, the problem is that at this point, we know that death doesn't hold much meaning anymore, so the death scenes where they either try to make you feel sad at a characters death, or make you feel sickened with the way they die, don't hold much weight. On the other end of the coin, because we're all so used to crazy twists at this point, the entire game is also spent trying to theorycraft who the killer is/what the killers motivation is/what the twist is, and no matter what any of those things wound up being, would never match up to what anyone else would have come up with, and in general would never be as shocking, since everyone is going into the game expecting a crazy twist at this point.
Another issue I found myself not liking was the overuse of Blue Bird Lamentation. I understand that perhaps there were budgetary concerns and maybe they couldn't have as much music as they would have liked to work with, but a song that was used to such emotional power as that one in VLR being used anytime anything happened with D-Team really sucked away any kind of emotional value it would have had, although I guess this point is probably open to personal opinion.
Also Aliens, but I really feel like I don't even need to go into detail about why that plot device doesn't work.
Sorry, I just beat the game and needed to vent my feelings
>>343757845
The other teams knew Q for five days at DCOM, and I agree that Sigma, Phi and Akane should have been suspicious.
However, remember that for the majority of the time, Q was only with Q team. Meaning C and D had no idea Sean even existed until the latter parts of the game.
Maria was not suspicious since she was conspiring with Q.
Eric is definitely suspicious and it showa in his actions.
>>343760742
here you go
>>343762597
How does Akane feel out of place? Her entire motivation in VLR stems from what happened in ZTD. And Junpei comes because of Akane. Carlos makes sense because he's a potential SHIFTer. Sean has connections to Zero. Mira for that wildcard factor, and Eric cause he's an obsessed loser.
>>343762838
>Another issue I found myself not liking was the overuse of Blue Bird Lamentation. I understand that perhaps there were budgetary concerns and maybe they couldn't have as much music as they would have liked to work with, but a song that was used to such emotional power as that one in VLR being used anytime anything happened with D-Team really sucked away any kind of emotional value it would have had, although I guess this point is probably open to personal opinion.
Agreed. It's the same problem that MGS has with the MGS3 salute: Fucking fantastic the first time around, arguably the best moment in the entire series. In almost every substantial game they milk it.
>>343762838
agree 100%
>>343762439
Damn, you're fast. Mine was somewhere between 30 and 35 hours. This game was 18 hours for me. So you can see why I thought it felt short.
>>343762173
Fuck off back to your shitty D4 wannabe game
>Akane, Sigma and Phi concoct an absurd 45 year long plan to create a timeline where they stop Free the Soul and Radical6 is never released
>Carlos creates that timeline in a coin toss
>Junpei and Seven destroy FtS' HQ by coincidence off screen
Akane, Digma and Phi are fucking useless
>>343763415
but anon MY FEELS XD
>>343762439
Fucking how? Mine was like 37, I was honestly getting tired of it by the end.
>>343761308
ohhh, there are the scars
>>343758902
this hurt my feelings
>>343763470
37 hours?
It's a fucking visual novel dude. What were you doing? Puzzles are like only a third of the game.
>>343761308
>no NTR route
>no Phi x Sigma route
Wait hold up
where the fuck was Kyle?
>>343763437
This is the worst bullshit.
They set up whole VLR so they can get into Mars Station and do fucking nothing.
But you can see that the story was changed and they only mentioned Kyle and Left once, and they were suppose to play a big role in third game.
>>343763410
>>343763470
I think it's the puzzle. I didn't really care about them so much so I mostly use easy mode and looked it up online.
>>343763601Rhizome 9.:3
>>343761961
Have you even played 999?
>>343763601
Dropped so the new audience is not confused
I did VLR in 55 hours
>>343763563
VLR was long as fuck dude. I've seen several people play it, and they've all been at least 30 hours.
>>343763652
That makes more sense then.
You now have the power to change the participants of the Decision Game.
Which six characters do you add? (Sigma, Phi, and Diana must fill 3 slots according to VLR.)
1: Sigma
2: Phi
3: Diana
4:
5:
6:
7:
8:
9:
finished it now. the beginning was great, then it slowed down, mid to late game was again pretty good, i didn't like the ending. I have questions1. where the fuck is kyle, is he the dog
2. how did mira kill junpei
3. delta was only in q's team right?
4. when did mira and loveboi learned robot's name is sean? i think they call him sean in another timeline, where sean didn't learn he is sean yet. although i'll accept he told them after he learned it from another timeline. still retarted tho.
5. what was the deal with transporter room weird puzzle thing that i haven't solved. something like a card reader that laughs. there was another puzzle-like thing in another room that i skipped if i remember correctly
The problem with the twist isn't that it doesn't work, it's that the game has to pull so much contrived, convenient bullshit for it to work. Just dropping some shadows here and there doesn't get around the absurd movements you have to assume a crippled, blind old fucko is making in-between scenes to hide himself from the camera for seemingly no reason besides to hide the twist. The fact that Q-team knows Sean's name yet NEVER refers to him by it a single time before the reveal is also another example of how far you have to reach to make this dumb shit work.
Wait a fucking second.
In the apocalypse ending, when Sigma loses both arms he's like "OH WELL I guess I'll spend the next 45 years working on the next nonary game to train my old self to SHIFT".
But why? Why not just SHIFT by himself?
>>343763624
I'd be more critical of this normally, but honestly the fact the game even came out is a big deal. I can deal with a few dropped plot strings.
>>343763563
Actually 42:25 according to my 3DS. I got stuck on a lot of puzzles though so I guess I'm retarded.
>It's a fucking visual novel dude.
Visual novels can be long though (see Clannad)
>>343763652
well that explains it
DLC
999 - absolute ludography
VLR - video game
ZTD - app
>>343763857
This
>>343763078
I guess what my issue boils down to is that the characters have a sliding scale of importance, where you have characters that are important to the plot (Sigma, Diana, Phi) either for what they do in this game or for what they do in the next game, but having characters that are only there to create conflict with other character like Mira or Eric feels kind of weak for what is supposedly the final entry in the series, and like you said, Junpei is there not because he actually has anything to do, but just because Akane is there, which I think is a disservice to his character. I also really don't feel like Akane needed to be there for the next game to take place, unless there's something in particular I'm forgetting about VLR that suggested she took place in the ZTD experiment?
>>343763749
Dio, Uchikoshi, 9th Man, Snail, 1905 Phi, All-ice (not Alice you baka), Funyarinpa
>>343763802
Because of complex motives
>>343762838
I, too, was disappointed in blue bird lamentation's overuse.
>>343763793
1. his plotline was dropped
2. Delta basically let Mira walk around and kill people if she wanted to.
3. Delta was Q, so yes.
4. Don't remember.
5. Cards = numbers. It wasn't hard.
>>343763793
1. MIA
2. She wasn't injected with sleeping drugs
3. I think so, but he had cameras
4. He told it himself
5. Math
>>343761390
It was released on Steam since June 30
Why couldn't Delta just pick the snail up from the path?
>>343763875
fuck off don't start this shit here
>>343763749
Luna
Clover
Snake
Future Clover
Alice
Mira
>>343764048
VLR dumbass. The steam release is coming but not for a while.
>>343764048
VLR, anon.
>>343764095
His motivations are complex
>>343764095
Snails are gross man.
>>343764067
>Mira not in Alice tier
>>343763563
>one third of the game: doing the puzzles
>second third of the game: reading the visual novel
>last third of the game: watching a blinking dot move on the map and doors opening and closing
>>343764095
Because he needed to recreate the nunnery game (Except with ten people this time) in order to create two timelines, one where a virus was released to see if he could beat the odds and infect an isis terrorist with a suicide virus to stop the world from exploding and to also create a timeline where the world isn't infected but instead has 6 psychic warriors who now have the motivation to stop the world from exploding
>>343764067
Someone actually suggested that Alice was not the worst character in the series last thread. She is fucking awful.
>>343764172
Because Mira is not as bad as alice.
>>343764095
Molluscophobia.
>>343764095
Why would he? He needed the snail to be there in order to complete his goals
>>343764095
He don't know this snail.
He tried killing 75% of snails but his plan failed, this snail was in the remaining 25%
>>343763749
Carlos
Junpei so he can flirt with Carlos
I don't care about the rest, but I guess Akane can't be there because she'll distract Junpei
>>343764067
This is a pretty awful list.
>Eric
>Likeable
It's clear that whoever made this list isn't likeable.
>>343764172
>implying mira is as bad as alice
>implying anything is as bad as alice
>>343764298
COMEPLELX
>>343759902
You would think Akane would recognize his body parts, at least his torso
>>343764067
>muh Akane
>high tier
>>343764135
that snake is a euphemism isn't it
>>343764471
It's called denial
>>343764471
You'd think she would recognize his crotch.
Is Delta the new Skullface?
MFW everyone who criticizes the game adds "But I liked Carlos" at the end
>>343763809
actually, that's a good point. I'll whine less now.
>>343763995
>>343764035
so you are supposed to use that puzzle to figure out which card is which number? i just figured them out on my on.
>>343764423
Eric is great fuck you
>>343764552
No, because Delta actually did shit in this game
>>343764607
Yeah, it gave you plenty of hints.
>>343764552
A giant cartoon of a villain who manages to make the best character look like a giant retard? Yes. ZTD should have just been Carlos vs Akane and Junpei
The story was crap, but it was worth playing it just for the ring and hug scene. After 999 and VLR, it was nice seeing mad max and time goddess getting some sweet time with each other
>make a game filled with possible deaths and horror
>kidnap nine innocent people
>force them to play and die in several histories
>do it so you can live
>akane does it and it's ok
>delta does it and he's a monster
At least Delta didn't blow anyone up. I was really mad that the whole "this Zero must have known what happened last year!" amounted to nothing whatsoever. Delta should have called out Junpei and Akane on their hypocrisy.
>>343764423
Eric is one of better written characters of the series
>>343764607
Well, you can either bruteforce mindlessly or try to figure it out yourself
>>343764634
As great as you are, undoubtedly.
>>343764559
Carlos was designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator so he did his job well.
>>343764634
Eric is awful psycho. But I liked Carlos because he's hot boy and siscon
is this the phase where only fanboys are left and any criticism no matter how valid is seen as "shitposting" or being "haters" ?
>>343764746
You can't be serious.
>Delta somehow knew Mira was going to kill Junpei
>He somehow knew that Mira wasn't going to take his heart
>He somehow knew she'd cut him up into pieces so he could use that in his very specific puzzle
???
Why Carlos sister had a disease working exactly like Radical-6 and this was NOT important to the main plot in any way?
Why even add this? Why not just some random sickness?
>>343764804
I'd say no, considering how most of everyone criticizes the game.
What's up with people shitting on Junpei's English VA? He was one of the best guys on the cast and portrayed Punished Junpei to a fucking tee.
>>343764741
>At least Delta didn't blow anyone up.
>The button
>The manufacturing lab
>The reactor
>The Force Quit box
>>343764804
Nope. We all agree that the game is a disappointment.
>>343764804
Yes you must be glad that you were able to pay full price for the botchered game because based uchi
>>343764862
>working exactly like Radical-6
What? I thought it worked completely differently.
>>343764804
I'm seeing productive discussion and criticism. The fuck are you on about?
>>343756789
I think i've got stuck, all that is left for me to do (I still have quite the number of fragments in ?) is to
Press the acid rain button on each team, will that unlock something? or is it just for laughs?
>>343764862
Carlos's sister was a shifter (I think Akane is the one who figures it out) which explains the visions. Did you even finish the game?
>>343764895
His voice was so inconsistent.
>>343764895
English VAs were generally great
I pity the people who didn't get THE FUCK?
S-so the 3DS version is selling the best right?
>>343764862
Maria's disease doesn't work like Radical-6. Maria couldn't control her ability to access the morphogenetic field and basically overloaded on information and shutdown.
Radical-6 slows brain function and makes the person intensely suicidal, they are nothing alike.
>>343764746
I was waiting the entire game for something to happen with Eric, like either he turns his act around and realizes what kind of person he is and then does something heroic, or you find out it was all an act and he was behind part of the plot, or that there was SOMETHING up with his character and his reason for being alongside these other, far more important characters, but no, he stays a pathetic shithead the entire game
I mean granted his entire family died and he was forced to hide his brothers body and he was beaten and raped by his dad but STILL
>>343765019
which visions?
>>343763749
carlos
mira
eric
junpei
a second carlos
>>343764914
He means in the good end.
Good end of 999 still involves 9th man, not-Snake and the Ace all dying.
>>343764804
>any criticism no matter how valid is seen as "shitposting" or being "haters"
Point where this is happening?
>>343765085
I got it on 3DS so I could play it outside, but fuck I regret it
It's genuinely broken and if I leave it on and shut my 3DS half the time it fucking crashes the console
>>343765076
They were alright until they had to show any kind of emotion/yell/scream. Literally had to mute it everytime out of embarrassment.
>>343764804
You're an idiot.
>I hated the complex well written character filled with horrible and realistic crippling issues, insecurities, repressed memories and flaws
>I liked the perfect ripped tall handsome xman firefighter with a good heart and no issues whatsoever
You people are the cancer that keeps storytelling in games lowbrow.
Carlos was pathetic
>>343765085
I wouldn't care if it sold the best on excrementbox as long as I can play it on a platform that I own that's all I care about
>not killing all normal humans and creating new world order fo SHIFTers only
>>343765162
Ace doesn't die in the true end.
>>343765162
well, in this one mira lives so it's kinda equal
>>343765151
The doctor at the hospital says his sister is constantly dreaming and this turns out to be her just hopping between realities uncontrollably. Like I said, it's explained in the last couple hours. I'm not at my computer so I can't prove it right now.
>>343765217
In a cast full of retards, it's nice to see someone with their shit together
>>343765174
>>343765203
I just came into the thread, calm down faggots.
>>343765217
nice meme
>>343765217
>I hated the complex well written character filled with horrible and realistic crippling issues, insecurities, repressed memories and flaws
C O M P L E X
>>343765295
this desu senpai
>>343765217
>no issues
>siscon
>probably gay
>>343765162
Oh, then that anon is right. Akane had three people die in the perfect timeline, which makes her position worse than Delta's.
>>343765378
he's gay for his sister.
>>343765217
>shitting on carlos
10 MONTHS
0
M
O
N
T
H
S
Acta est fabula, plaudite!
>Acta est fabula, plaudite!
Acta est fabula, plaudite!
>Acta est fabula, plaudite!
Let the series die you fucks
>>343765217
>complex well written character
let's not kid ourselves now
Finished the game last night. Liked it but thought it was alright. Probably worst in the series.
Wake up to come here and read stuff finally and see that there are post game files and holy shit do they really tie everything together. The stuff with Sigma and Diana almost made me fucking cry.
>>343765246
He never got a fucking thank you. This is just after he gives his life to save Akane. He did just as much work as Junpei did.
Damn right he will be the best man at the wedding.
>>343764828
I don't find him likeable, but I still like how you could see he was turning into his father by doing things to Sean like his father did to him and his brother.
>Akane wasn't Machiavellian in this game at all
>She's a retard who goes full Clover
And the worst part is that the game's writing -acts- like she is Machiavellian, by having her say I WILL DO ANYTHING TO ACHIEVE MY GOALS
>>343765494
did you read the stuff in the booklet too? it's worth it
>>343764895
I liked him. And not just because he sounded a little queer.
>His name is sean and has never been called anything other than that in the underground shelter
Is that true? I don't remember anyone calling him sean until the reveal obviously.
>>343765304
That wasn't a hostile request bro.
>>343765494
>Wake up to come here and read stuff finally and see that there are post game files and holy shit do they really tie everything together. The stuff with Sigma and Diana almost made me fucking cry.
They all should have been epilogue scenes (except the Mira one, that one is fan fiction-tier garbage).
Anyone weirded out by how Mira got zero comeuppance throughout the entire game including the ending? She even fucking marries Eric in the real ending, and I guess that's.. okay? She's still a psychopathic serial killer but somehow at some point no-one cares any more.
>>343765293
Yeah i know them. Let me rephrase my question. Which visions were related to the story at all? Carlos was a shifter before the game, Akane also figures this out. Carlos hears her voice once in the game, but it does nothing. Her sister having that disease was unnecessary.
>Mira gets a happy end when she's worse than Ace
>>343765598
>Is that true?
Yes. It was ass pull.
>>343765564
Well she's certainly two-faced.
>>343765685
Ace doesn't even get an ending, last we've seen of him was the end of 999 where he was stuck in the car trunk.
>>343765675
She got cured by the power of love and friendship
>>343765195
Fuck that, Sigma's cool exterior shattering when he finally reached out and hugged Diana had me in tears.
>>343765675
Eric marrying Mira in the end was fucking hilarious and suits his character. The shit with Sean punching a hole through the wall and breaking her out a prison to get to the teleporter is fucking awful though.
>>343765812
All she had to do is show a little heart?
>>343765085
>mfw I'm still waiting on my Amazon pre-order
>>343765598
he was never referred to sean in any of the dialogue that WE saw
he was called that outside of that
yes it is a bit stupid but whatever
>>343765680
His sister being in the hospital was just a sob story for Carlos to tell. It's not the characters fault, obviously, but the writers'.
>>343765639
Mira just wants to experience killing Eric's mom again. That's my head canon
I liked how Phi really wasn't all that important/mysterious etc. Ever since VLR she gave off a that vibe, but she really is just a normal girl no different than any of the others who can shift.
>>343765675
It's okay when Eric shoot all people.
It's okay when Mira kills everyone for fun.
They have traumatic past!
>>343765556
>not related to the cast/plot
>sister isn't even sick
>forced to be the leader
>forgot in the VLR ending
>saves them and doesn't even get a thank you
Carlos is Delta's way of telling us that life is simply unfair.
>>343763749
6 clones of Dio
>>343764845
>Delta somehow knew Mira was going to kill Junpei
He either asked her too or made her do it but it's probably the first. Either way, he knew it was going to happen because Carlos jumps from that timeline all over the place giving versions of Delta in all the different timelines the info he needed.
It's stupid to pick apart what Delta knew dude. We'll never be able to prove it was bullshit because it was so vague how he got all his info. He gets it all from reading minds but also reading minds of SHIFTERs from other universes giving him a complete understanding of everything that will happen.
We have no clue how many SHIFTERs minds he read throughout his life up till the events of ZTD.
>>343765865fuck you
>>343765927
Eric just flipped like Akane does when Junpei gets killed or Clover with the Axe ending
Mira is unexcusable though
>>343759902
The biggest ohh shit moment for me was the ward reveal. Mainly because it was so obvious, but I missed it.
Thinking back on the game, I'm pretty sure Uchi would fall for the VR meme if he had the budget
>>343765598
They mean he was never called by any other name. That's partly why it was a great idea to group him with Eric and Mira, they're both assholes who just called him "kid" or "brat." With any other group it's something you would pick up on fairly quickly, but with those two it seemed natural to just talk down and never address him by name.
>>343763749
Junpei
Akane
Snake
Santa
Kyle
Clover
>>343765685
>Ace literally murders children, gets away with it, tries to run away from his crimes, gets trapped, tries to kill snake and akane and even kills you at one point.
>gets caught and arrested
>Mira is a serial killer
>turns herself in
Ace is worse but only barely.
>>343766035
Eric literally execute people. He's more fucked
>>343765675
Her killing cured her, so it makes everything okay. So basically, if Ace actually succeeded, he would be forgiven according to this game. And Akane isn't enraged Mira caused her parents to die because reasons.
It's not that it's the worst twist ever, but the twists in the previous two games at least felt like they tied the plots of those games together, having it turn out to be some old fuck in a wheelchair just off to the side the entire time doesn't feel like that big of a revelation
It also feels like they REALLY went out of their way to hide it from you when you find out what the twist was, which I didn't get at all from the first game, and the second game really only has about one or two things that don't hold up to scrutiny, but you REALLY have to suspend your disbelief to buy the twist in this game
The entire library scene doesn't work AT ALL if you know that they could turn around and kill the deaf mute guy and just walk out of the facility
>>343760180
The puzzle element just vanished entirely from about the last 25-35% of the game, which was a bummer, but overall it was pretty enjoyable. As far as trilogies go it could have gone a LOT fucking worse, especially in the video game medium.
>>343763749
1: Sigma
2: Phi
3: Diana
4: Carlos
5: Junpei
6: Snake
7: Santa
8: Kyle
9: Eric
>>343765995
Delta and Mira don't have interaction, Mira is like Dio as he was allowed in the game because he would help Delta's plans but they don't have any actual interactions or know eachother
>>343765085
I got it on the 3DS
It's the worst version of the game though because of how many times the FPS drops, but I don't mind.
Fucking hell do i love drawing in this game.
>>343766147
>TELL ME THE FUCKING TRUTH CARLOS
>Carlos gives him the truth
>YOU MUST THINK I'M STUPID
>*shotgun blast*
There are people in this thread right now who like Eric as a character.
>mfw the game pulls a "the last time you picked betray" on me again
>>343766246
I don't agree but I don't think it's really confirmed either way. Doesn't really change what I said about Delta though. We have no clue how many SHIFTERs minds he's read.
>>343766035
Eric = Junpei
They only care about protecting their "angel".
Inb4 it's justified to kill Carlos, Sigma and Phi because I like Junpei but Eric is an asshole!
Akane is more like Mira as they have been shown planning other people's death with no remorse and cold blood
>>343766332
I knew it was coming, but it was still great.
>>343766276
>eraser decreases the meter
this annoyed me more than it should've
>>343766332
Yea it was cool the first time in VLR but it's gotten old.
>>343766389
At least I didn't foreseeJune immediately bashing his brains out screaming like a banshee.
>>343766332
>he didn't pick Betray first
Fuck Eric
Fuck Nebraska
Fuck ice creams
>>343764845
>>343765995
You guys forget Delta built and had access to a QUANTUM COMPUTER that explored EVERY scenario in EVERY kind of timeline. So if he just googled the events so far on it, he could know exactly what was going to happen.
>>343765217
Actually I like Eric.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTt0DJn0_CU
>>343766332
The second I saw that shit pop up I knew Junpei was going to betray my ass. Then he had the nerve enough to gloat about it afterwards. Junpei is mah boi but I felt no regret murdering him after that.
>>343766145
Ace would have killed one kid, the rest was potential murder. Mira's kill count is like 20.
>>343766161
>We need to get up the stairs before we grenade launcher the shit out of this glass
>That old cripple fucko nah forget about him
>>343766332
What would happen if instead of nuking the place and killing everyone they instead both chose Ally?
>>343766526
But that's objectively wrong.
>>343766497
True I forgot about that. Kinda makes you wonder why Uchi even had him give the excuse "I know so much because I read the minds of SHIFTers.
This reference...
>>343757971
6 BILLION PEOPLE CARLOS
>>343763749
Carlos
Junpei
Santa
Kyle
Snake
New girl participant to dissipate the sausagefest
>>343766596
>the rest was potential murder.
he recognized snake from the previous games and tried to murder him again. In the true timeline he tries to kill akane.
>>343766687
>m-muh friends
It's hard to hate Carlos.
>>343766497
And clone/fax machine, and he still couldn't find a single terrorist.
He is as incompetent as his father.
>>343766723
still killed less people than Akane, Junpei, Mira etc.
>>343766497
Then why didn't he just use that to find the terrorist and forgo the decision game altogether?
And don't say he did it to recreate the scenario where he was born, because as far as I could tell this wasn't going off of direct Back to the Future rules where if you don't stay on the path you start to slowly disappear and that once you were sent to an alternate reality what happened in that reality you were sent to had no bearing on time loops
or something, fuck if I know how this time travel alternate reality dimension deterministic shit works
>>343764895
I thought his deliveries have been spot on
>>343766897
Junpei?
>>343766332
This game wasn't so much about the crazy 4th wall breaking. it was just a wild ride of mostly contrived twists and silly moments. I don't think it's meant to be taken as seriously as the other games and isn't meant to be neat and tidy wrapup. They just go nuts with time paradoxes and shifting and shit that aspects of the writing seems almost intentionally "poor" to be fun. Maybe with a hint of MGS2 style fucking with fan expectations.
With how it's presented, it seems like you were expected to already know about the 4th wall stuff, I feel bad for newcomers as playing this first would ruin the impact of that shit.
>>343766332
Did you actually trust this man?
>>343766920
because there is no terrorist
>>343760180
Terrific, I liked it better the VLR. Of course it definitely didn't top 999 and its too bad there were less puzzles and endings.
>>343763749
4: Junpei has to stay, Akane shouldn't be there, but Junpei should still have a morphogenic link with her during extreme situations.
5: Carlos is fine. He was a good character.
6: A Left Clone wearing the mask. He would play the inside man part like Mira.
7: Older Snake - he'd be there to tie up the Free The Soul storyline
8: Kyle
9: Aoi/Santa
>>343766897
It's hard to belive in ZTD's Akane and Jumpei. They was average seinen school boy and average "Yamato nadeshiko" romcom childhood friend in 999. But now they're act like retards from different universe who never participated in 999.
>muh Akane
>muh Jumpei
>>343767229
if we can see clover with the help of snake at some point in the game, then this is the one
>>343767173Fanatic Bio R is an anagram for Fabrication
>>343760521
No way, ZTD was better then VLR. VLR had a swiss cheese plot and horrible character designs. Not to say I didn't like the game, but its the worst of the three.
>>343766602
Akane was too wrapped up in Carlos being a SHIFTer to have him and Junpei cheat the AB game.
>yfw she gave no fucks for D-Team at all in that branch, not even informing Sigma and Phi to SHIFT as well
>Junpei and Akane have dark brown hair in 999
>suddenly it's light grey in ZTD
Did shifting so much make their hair age or something?
There will never be a good Uchi game again, just give it up guys.
>>343767280
Akane, Sigma and Phi just feel strange.
I understand this Akane isn't future Akane but a different one but she is still the leader of secret organization and a mastermind that helped create the previous Nonary Game, she should be a little more self aware and not jump to hasty conclusion.
Same for Sigma and Phi.
To be honest I also disliked how in some decisions the characters just had to play the role of "choose yes" or "choose no" despite their general characterization.
>>343767229
Junpei doesn't make sense though. He doesn't really care for this shit, he just wants to be with Akane. If he does this save the world stuff it's because she drags him into it.
The grafix/presentation in ZTD were a real mixed bag for me.
On one hand, the more action-y scenes looks pretty good. Axe fight in particular.And it makes sense from a Delta's security cameras POV point.
On the other, there's so much "pan slowly while characters talk" that really didn't benefit at all from the changes (not that great mouth flappings). And no narration, which means no inner monologue jokes/quips.
>>343766332
Wait till you do the third choice.
>>343767465
pleb
>>343767498
I always thought that is was because we see the game through Q's eyes and he is always wearing those yellow shades...
>>343767432
Arab Fiction
A Bionic Fart (aka Sigma killed us)
>>343767504
Lots of people love ZTD dude. Stop trying to force your disappointment on others. Just leave the thread if you don't care to actually talk about the game.
You're wasting your time and the time of everyone else.
>>343767498
Different artist
>>343761274
>promised
Please, do show me where he promised this.And while your at it, can you show me again where it says you were entitled to the ending you wanted? Hmmm? Didn't think so
>>343767562
Sigma looks like old Sigma for me.
>>343764804
>>343767705
he was right, all along
>>343767572
Junpei's there for the same reason he went to the moon in VLR.
"If you go, you can meet Akane"
And he would, in multiple endings.
After all, Akane has to get her FTS robes and instructions.
>>343760180
I enjoyed it up until the story started to get very obviously convoluted. Ending was terrible. But until that point, I had a great ride.
>>343767801
He neither say it's shitpost nor he was wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBAD_9r9ZII
study had best theme
>>343767801
Not him, but he isn't criticizing him for disliking the game. He's doing it because he isn't adding anything productive to the discussion and just shitposting.
What are the chances that Uchi will hold a Q&A again?
>>343760180
VLR>>>ZTD>999 imo
>>343767801
I didn't say he was shit posting. I siad if he doesn't liek the game and is just going ot post "I don't like the game you shouldn't either" he should leave.
Go ahead and criticize the game, we can have a discussion then which is why people are here. He is apparently here to try and convince people to stop liking what he doesn't like without any actual substance or argument. That is in fact, a waste of everyone's time.
>>343767991
Pretty high I guess
I missed how 999 and VLR had the mistery about your location and played with that, in ZTD you already know where you are from the start and most of the other stuff too.
>>343768027
I agree with this ranking. 999fags can't even explain why they liked the original the most
>muh atmosphere
Oh, so nostalgia, then?
so in the good end, do they just go and wake up clover and alice from the cryo pods
I miss best girl
;_;
Was ZTD as dark as you thought it was going to be?
Wait so let me get this straight:
in some alternate timeline, the religious fanatic actually did start a nuclear war, which prompted Sigma and Diana to go into a bomb shelter, which then lead to them having twins and sending them into the past so that they can escape the nuclear war, right?
If that were not the case, then Delta would've been the catalyst to his own creation, which would imply a bootstrap paradox in which the origins of Delta and Phi are virtually impossible to locate.
>>343768197
Sigma pls. Your daughter is cuter than her mother.
>>343768196
I don't think they were kidnapped in any timeline aside from Apocalypse.
>>343768238
>Implying it isn't a bootstrap paradox anyway, and ZE doesn't liberally deal with them
>>343768310
Yes but you can't fuck your daughter.
>>343768237
Darker and creepier
Those acid showers
>>343767923
You don't know convoluted
>>343768237
It could have been even darker than it already was and it wouldn't have mattered because the inclusion of an instant undo button means that no death matters
>>343760483
8 billion people would have died.
>>343768237
Not even close.
>>343768192
>999fags can't even explain why they liked the original the most
Because you weren't expecting a huge ruse cruise and in VLR and ZTD I was. 999 also had the best characters and best ending out of the series.
>>343768382
>you can't fuck your daughter
???
>>343767675
Clearly a distraction that a fanatic sympathizer would say.
>>343768238
>then Delta would've been the catalyst to his own creation, which would imply a bootstrap paradox in which the origins of Delta and Phi are virtually impossible to locate.
That's literally 999 though. Young Akane was trapped inside the incinerator and made a connection with Junpei to save herself. However this was Junpei in the future who was trapped in the 999 game. So for it to actually happen, she had to re-create the conditions needed for Junpei to be in the 999 game in order for the sequence of events to actually happen. It's the same thing.
>>343768382
[citation needed]
>>343766332
>Trusting the smugmaster
Just look at that fucking grin
He was gonna betray your ass as soon as he could
>>343768382
I'm sure she can handle her Pa's 18 inches just fine.
>>343760483
>Eric, Mira, and Sean are on the other side of that door! We have to save them!
No, it'd really be OK if they bit the bullet here.
Bootstrap paradox: The series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j2cNGej9PI
>When 1:08 kicks in
>>343768487
Agreed. If it didn't have the worst puzzles it'd be the clear best to me.
Also fuck that Alice tease at the end and everything about Ice-9. Literally 0 point to it.
>>343768192
VLR had the trouble of bombarding you with explanations near the end of the game and expects you to go along with it no matter how absurd it sounded:
>we're actually on the moon
>oh by the way you're actually in an older version of your body and it's 45 years into the future
>also Dio is a clone
>also Luna is a robot
>also the Earth is red and it's recovering from a biohazard that nearly wiped the human race off the map
The most 999 had to explain was the morphogenetic field.
and ZTD had the liberty of throwing aliens into the story with the transporter and literally everyone in the story just glosses over that like it's nothing
>>343768503
To add on to this, you need to think of young Akane as the present time, seeing the future to reconcile the fact that she then needs to create the future where she can be saved
>>343768409
The acid showers were brutal. I had to turn the speakers down because I didn't want to hear the screams at full volume. The only execution I enjoyed was Q team.
>>343765016
You need to do everything, so no it's not just for laughs.
>>343768629
Eric, Mira and Q. Sigma, Phi and Diana did not know Sean was there
>DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON
>Me: "Ha, wouldn't it be funny if it blew everything up."
>Press it
>It blows everything up.
Best Game Over imo.
>>343768491
But... a fabric I not
>During the three minutes you were given to make the acid shower decision, all of the other teams were asleep
Damn..
>>343768787does the two gold endings account to something? do they unlock anything?
>>343766526
So do I. He and Junpei were the best written characters in the game.
>>343768808
Oh right. Even better.
>no DLC
>>343768638
>When 0:59 kicks in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwB3pRnaXWo
ACTION SPIN OFF FEATURING THESE TWO BLOWING SHIT UP AND ACCIDENTALLY SAVING THE WORLD, WHEN?
BLACK COP
JAPANESE MAN
IT'S LIKE RUSH HOUR WITH TOKYO INSTEAD OF HONG KONG.
>>343768640
Yep, I was super happy with how much better the puzzles were in VLR.
>>343768421
I've played both series, I do.
I want to fuck phi, but I dont have an 18 incher like her dad
I'm curious if there is any secrets in game? Just like start new walkthrough but use all passwords etc?
>I want to believe
>>343768824
I thought the best game over was when I intentionally chose the wrong antidote as Carlos and before Junpei dies he lets out one final "DAMN YOU CARLOS" before falling over
That or Diana's "MAYBE IT'S JUST A PAIN DRUG WE WERE INJECTED WITH WE SHOULDN'T DRINK THIS ANTIDOTE" as everyone convulses to death on the floor
Maybe this game is just a comedy in disguise
>>343769047
>ACCIDENTALLY SAVING THE WORLD
how so? It changed nothing.
>>343769096
Every day, until you like it.
>>343768960
scene is ruined because a blank at very close range to the head is still very likely to kill you.
>>343769096
god damnit
>>343769047
was there a reason for junpei saying they blew up the HQ for free the soul? I haven't played vlr in a while was that like an unanswered question on that game? if it wasn't then what was the point of saying it aside from junpei being COMPLEX
>>343769105
what about the options easter egg?
What was the best puzzle room?
>>343768503
>Akane had access to the morphogenetic field and looked for a future where she was saved. And it just so happened to be a future where she created the nonary game just to save her fucking ass from getting incinerated. But for that future to exist that would imply that she was saved by Junpei helping her solve the sudoku puzzle in the first place.
>which would mean that no matter what, Junpei saving akane and Akane recreating the nonary game was predetermined
>Sigma is a living bootstrap, forever forced to live an infinite time of constantly getting his arms chopped off and being cooped up in the moon for 45 infinite years while getting his younger self to suffer the same endless hell
>Akane's bootstrap is further bootstrapped by the fucking fact that Delta's Free the Soul funded the very first nonary game
>>343769187
He did say it fractured his eardrum...
>>343768638
how do I get gud at making music like that
shinji hosoe is my artistfu
>>343769092
Do you see how small Phi is? She isn't used goods like Diana, either. I think you'd be fine.
>>343769195
Wasn't Seven on their tails?
>>343769195
I guess they had to explain how Junpei could give all those infodumps about FtS in VLR. Still, it was just fucking hilarious how Akane is being all careful and slowly explaining shit about this secret super cult, and he just goes "Oh yeah, I blew up their HQ with Seven a couple of months ago. Were they important?"
>>343769195
I think he was just giving her the lowdown of what he and seven got up to after she peaced out
>>343769261
It's not just the noise. Blanks still fire shit.
>>343769138
>not giving Eric all different answers on who killed Mira to see what he says
>>343760180
I think it's the weakest of the trilogy for reasons that were pointed out in these threads numerous times, but I still enjoyed it and won't sperg out over it being a huge betrayal like some in this thread are doing.
Alternate timelines cannot create bootstrap paradox
Now I know why Diana was so horny for Sigma. Her pussy was so used up and roasty, she needed a 18 incher inside her just to feel anything.
>Akane does the nonary game
>everyone forgives her
>Delta does the nonary game for the sole purpose of saving literally all of mankind at the cost of toying with the lives of 8 people and a robot
>hurr durr we're all fucking mad
>>343769356
>Dad doesn't work
>>343758749
Really? It made sense considering what was previously established about power amplification when there were people who could access the Morphogenic Field around each other. I'm willing to believe that even those with very basic powers could SHIFT if they have 6 well experienced and stressed SHIFTers around them.
>>343768237
Yes. That definitely satisfied.
>>343769356
I spent so much time on trying to calm down Eric and his shotgun
>>343769432
fuck off r9k
>>343769432
She was probably used to go to random bars and putting out easily for any stranger willing to fuck her.
>>343769250
Time isn't linear. "What you do in the future affects the past". They try to explain all this in VLR by saying that time doesn't work the way you are envisioning it.
Imagine time moving forward is water running through a stream. That movement of the water is the movement we call time. Now imagine that water doesn't actually flow from anywhere, it's just there. It's always been there, flowing the way it does and if you go further back in the stream you'll find the water didn't change it at all.
Maybe that's not the best analogy but it's something like that. The hard part about this is it's hard for us to conceptualize another dimension.
>>343764067
Gotta fix that shit.
>>343769463
Who cares? There's no way Carlos will shoot him and Delta knows this.
>>343768314
they were kidnapped on new year's
>>343769214
explain
>>343758749
It's implied (and I think even outright stated in this game) that every human is capable of accessing the field.
>>343760062
This is a blatant lie. This game was not made by the Zero Escape staff at all, but a completely unrelated team. We aren't "their" fans.
>>343769551
The way she was pounding those drinks down, and was willing to go on all four and lick off the ground, I bet she's the kind of psycho girl that pretends to be shy and coy, and then goes off to drink with her nurse friends and just fucks random dudes in the bathroom.
Diana is a slut.
>>343769565
mediocre tier is way too big and lumps together decent characters with bad ones
>>343769583
There will be a timeline where he shoots and one where he doesn't. Maybe he was unsure if they were better off without him so he tried covering all bases.
>>343763749
The 9th Man
Ace
Dio
Alice
Mira
Eric
:^)
>>343769363
yeah seriously some people like to forget that the last game came out 4 fucking years ago and there was no possiblity for a sequel.
>Mfw getting boner on every phi and mira scene
>>343768841
Oh heck, I completely forgot.
>>343769583
Carlos will shoot Delta's leg off, just to make him wheelchair-bound.
>>343769704
It's even further implied that humans lives in the field
>>343769414
>For the timeline in which Junpei participates in the Nonary game and accesses the morphogenetic field to save Akane to exist, Akane would have had to have been saved by Junpei prior in order for her to create the nonary game anyways.
>the entirety of 999 involved young akane looking through multiple iterations of the second nonary game in hopes of finding the one where Junpei helps solve the sudoku puzzle
it doesn't matter if the time isn't linear, that particular timeline is a bootstrap regardless, from the fact Akane actually grew up to recreate the nonary game instead of dying.
>>343769565
There's no fucking way that Dio is better than either Luna or Diana, or that Eric is better than Junpei
>>343769350
who gives a heck?
>one of her X-Passes is Virgin
>>343769350
There's an explosion but it doesn't fire anything. A point-blank fire will kill someone but from even a few inches you'll be fine.
>>343769681
if you go to the options and turn up/down the voice option a character would say the name of the game, it also works if you change the language to japanese, I found it really fun.
>Had to approve 70 individual lines of broken text in the Q&A suggestion document
well that's a nice good morning to me, how about you guys?
>>343769945
Try "All of the gunpowder and shit being forced out of the gun barrel at nigh-point-blank range." giving a heck.
>>343764067
buff tenmeoldy, K and cute phi up one.
nerf snake one.
Soundtrack when?
>>343769836
All those close ups on Phi's butt. They knew what they were doing.
>>343758619
Sean wasn't edgy so what would the joke be?
>everyone recieves all the memories of their time in the shelter
>literally no one does anything about Mira in the end
>there will never ever be good phi porn
>>343770123
Steam. (free)
Youtube... (also, you know, free.)
A download link floating about somewhere, too. (lol limewire)
>>343769762
>has a super computer
>can read minds
>picks the guy obsessed with saving people
70% that he won't shoot
30% unintentional discharge
There's the reason he didn't give the gun to the retarded time goddess.
>>343770036For some reason none of her murders phased me except for the one where she carves Eric's heart out.
>>343770036
Makes sense, really
>>343770129
Phi legs were more emphasized
>>343770207
>I didn't read the post-ending files and I'm pulling stuff out of my ass.
Go read them anon.
>>343769887
Yea it seems a lot of people missed the purpose of putting a quantum computer and another robot in the game.
The purpose was to show how they are the exact same as a human and the morphogenetic field. Just like the quantum computer, the field contains every possible outcome of the universe. Like the computer, the human mind truly resides in the field.
The interesting thing (and they brush on this a few times) is what does this mean for the concept of individuality? Are the yous in different timelines different beings? Or are you all running off the same part of the field like a robot who only has access to part of this information stored within the main computer it's wirelessly attached to?
I think the game strongly implies that characters are actually the same across every timeline but their lack of memory of other timelines makes it hard for their human consciousness to grasp that. Delta seems to grasp it perfectly and understand his death in one timeline means nothing.
>>343770069
...that's not really an easter egg.
>>343769592
You're right, I forgot about that.
>On December 22, 2028, Clover and Alice were about to plan their infiltration of the real facility near Los Angeles, California. Unfortunately, Akane Kurashiki knocked them out with Soporil gas before they could do so.
She even did it beforehand too.
Man, Kyle's story was pretty heartfelt, I wanted to see a conclusion to it. I'm pretty bummed out about him being completely left out this game.
Kyle>Phi and Delta. He was best child.
Okay, you can go back to your memes.
>>343770207
and do what? mira had no way to kill them, she only killed other people because she got weapons laying around
>Phi got it from Diana, who only had it because she took it from Phi
my fav meme
>>343770249
I knew she was cold and pragmatic but I wasn't expecting that!
>>343770207
>Delta doesn't put her to sleep so she can go around murdering people.
>Says she got what she deserved when he kills her
What was the point of giving her that freedom again? Complexity?
>>343768237
The "dark" elements felt for the most part down right juvenile to me. A lot of it felt in-your-face, so to say.
>>343770469
Piranha
>>343770324
Technically he's still right because she's the one who turned herself in
They were probably gonna just let her walk if she didn't do that
>Delta was trying to save humanity
>in VLR time he's trying to stop Akane from stopping the spread of Radical-6 while also attempting to kill everyone involved indirectly, Sigma and Phi included
>in ZTD time he's trying to actually create a future different from Radical-6 while also preserving his own and Phi's existence.
make up your fucking mind, Delta
>>343770205
Have one that I took. Bonus Heisenberg + shotgun.
>>343770469
I think Mira tried to make Q her second victim and Delta decided that wasn't happening.
>>343770595C O M P L E X
>>343770509
The shower scenes were pretty fucked.
>>343770509
A product of the cinematic style over a narrative one I guess. Also the art style kinda toned it down for me since it felt too cartoonish.
>>343770240
how can I access the soundtrack from steam if I own the game?
>>343770595
He was merely pretending. He sent Dio to help Akane.
>>343769908
Luna and Diana are just bland and boring "good girls" though (Diana a bit less with the whole husband situation, but still).
Eric is better written and has more depth than Junpei, even if the game tries to make him "unlikable".
>>343769751
Nah, most 999 character are pretty mediocre actually. And a character being unlikable doesn't make it bad.
>>343770595
COMPLEX MOTIVES
>>343770431
The series is full of paradoxes, why are people so surprised by this one'
>>343770431
>Phi got it from Diana, who only had it because she took it from Phi
BlazBlue had the same shit when time travelled Ragna gave his sword to Jubey ho gave this sword to young Ragna
>>343770469
He had to execute his parents and sister to reach that timeline, and Sean (the boy in the hospital) died because of the chain of tragedies her first murder set off.
>tfw playing in 1440p
>>343770612
the way phi stands with her hands is cute
>>343770550
The other participants still killed each other, though.
Also, they didn't know she was a killer, like the fish knew the piranha was a predator. Unless you mean the idea that a killer is loose (only known because, y'know, people died) which makes more sense.
>>343770682
iirc it's free DLC, and so is the booklet, until July 8th?
English VA Tier list:
>S
Skullface Wesker COMPLEX man
Punished Hotdog Junpei
Virgin Psycho Sex voice Mira
>A
Phi the stacked chest useless dumbass
Siscon Carlos THE FUCK
Sigma the smart and old useless dumbass date rapist
>B
Akane "I masturbate to downloaded memories of other versions of myself having sex with Jumpy" the Yandere
Eric the smiler
>C
Diana the cumrag psycho
>>343770635
I guess it was one of the more horrifying ways characters died in the game, but I didn't really feel one way or the other about it.
How many times did sigma and diana fug
>>343770595
>in VLR time he's trying to stop Akane from stopping the spread of Radical-6 while also attempting to kill everyone involved indirectly, Sigma and Phi included
More like he brought Dio to fuck shit up and make more timelines so that he could be succesful in his original plan.
>>343770431
now this is a bootstrap, the others really aren't
>the USA USA USA USA character is the one to save the day
the pandering has gotten out of hand
>>343770205
>>343770612
When are the degenerates going to rip the models and make porn?
>>343770714
No one is surprised, it's just extra stupid because it's a specific physical object with no origin
>>343770817
For me it was the screams and how fucke dup it is. Like that's SUFFERING (as you said it's a horrifying way to die) and the VAs do a good job of showing it.
>>343770820
exactly 1
>>343770714
Because the object would be destroyed by the infinite loop, except if its 'lock in time' to prevent a paradox or if 1904 Phi buys a new one
>Sigma and Phi are the only characters that didn't kill a single person in the game
>>343770612
Should I find Phi as hot as I do?
>>343770820
enough to the point she could fully accept his 18 inches
>>343770852
ZTD only exists because of support from the west, no fucking shit the writer would make the USA character be the cool guy
>>343764895
>OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT? THIS ISN'T EVEN A FUCKING GAME!
Junpei captured the player's mood perfectly
>>343770846
Delta -> Decision Game -> Birth -> Transporter -> Decision Game -> Birth -> Transporter
>>343770820
Fully clothed sex performed only once for the sole purpose of procreation
>>343769565
move luna and ztd sigma up, move tenmyoldy down
>>343770882
they're pretty low-quality for models. I don't think they'd work well.
Wait a minute, did they show what happened when Eric and Mira first meet Sean? Like did Eric and Mira wake up and then suddenly realise there's a boy with a dome for a head there and then casually do some self-introductions?
>>343770985
Absolutely. The tsundere personality and petite body make her very qt.
>>343770978
Did they even jump consciousnesses?
>>343770882
I'm not ripping the model but my goal is similar
[NSWF Image btw]
>Phi's brooch isn't rapidly aging to the point of disintegration
>Delta didn't consider the possibility of the blue bird and brooch being destroyed by some temporal resonance due to the fact the two objects exist in an infinite loop, thereby preventing the force quit box from being relevant or operational in the slightest
>>343771098
They met Sean first in the Coincide fragment.
>>343770820
You want to talk after the True Ending?That is one detail Delta wished Mindhax would never answer.
>>343770852
>big weeb
>Carlos
>USA
What? Do you need him to say that his favorite anime is Saint Seiya and that he loves KoF or something?
>>343764095
He did, we just played the timeline where he didn't :^)
>>343771151
but shifting is not murder
>>343771160You can still get banned for spoilered porn.
>>343771098
They ask who he is andSean answers that he doesn't know his own name.Is wavehanded like that and by the end of the game everyone knows his name is Sean is never explained how he learned about it.
>>343771167
They're both wearing the mementos when they show up at DCcom. If they were broken/missing he could've had a backup force quit requirement.
>>343771160
>>343771275you actually get a longer ban for spoilered porn (5 instead of 3 iirc)
>>343771049
It could be the earlier explanation, where Delta's original birth involved the history with Nuclear warfare.
Delta saw this and wanted to create a history where this didn't happen, but also maintain his own existence as well as Phi's. Hence why the Decision game was created.
And if the decision game were to fail, then his next step was to release a virus that would nearly wipe out mankind.
Delta's choice to create the decision game altered the future to where his origins changed to where he was his own catalyst.
I WANT D-TEAM TOHAVE A HAPPY ENDING
>>343771167
Blue bird doesn't loop, the brooch does tho
But maybe 1904 Phi bought the Brooch
I really hated the way this game treated multiple universes. It made everything that has ever happened seem useless and dumb.
There were no stakes for anything.
I feel like Stein;Gate used a simimar concept in a much better way.
can i run this gae on intel graphics?
>>343769239
The study
I took this one because it was a rare shot of everyone alive. Look how small Phi looks next to Sigma.
>>343771483
>can i run this gae on intel graphics?
Played it start to finish on a 4000 HD, so yes.
>>343771542
that was the one with the "shift down" garbage? I thought it was really easy
>>343771294
>Sean answers that he doesn't know his own name.
No way
>>343771547
Sigma is a big guy
>>343771347
There's rules to this? I thought mods just decide on the spot whether it's a three day ban or a 2 week ban?
>>343771468
It was just as dumb in s;g.
>>343771483
Only if it supports dx11
>>343771453
I want a zany sidestory of the whole Klim family (Sigma, Diana, Phi, Delta, Luna, Kyle, Lagomorph, and you bet they took in Gab) doing shenanigans.
>>343770852
How can one man be so ass mad due to a single firefighter's power of freedom saving the day once again?
so is everyone speaking english? how did junpei and akane get fluent before 999
>>343771151
Sigma is implied to have jumped from when Q-Team gets voted off and same for Phi when C-Team gets voted off. That's why they have completely different memories about what happened during the vote
>>343771468
Steins;Gate used a single universe, hence the non-consequence.
In ZTD, when someone dies in a universe, he's dead forever in that universe.
>>343770820
every single day, three times a day
it's not like "D ward" had access to anything good, like the library
>>343771739
The same way Carlos is fluent in Japanese despite never visiting Japan.
>>343771652
for Q
>>343771483
Yes, but lower the setting to minimize the lag.
>>343771790
Healing Room is pretty sweet
>Sigma resisted pushing the button for 10 months
>>343770803
Diana was cute, otherwise agreed.
>>343763415
If LiS was a D4 wannabe then they wouldn't have finished it :^)
>>343770595
Piranha
>>343771594
It was the one with the grenade launcher. The puzzles in this game aren't hard though. I just liked the study cause it had a good amount of content, good atmosphere, and good features like the wall featuring the dolls and the firearms
>>343771837
>Troy Baker voiced Sigma in the anime
>we got McCree instead in ZTD
Why...probably budget reasons
>>343771820
Carlos is a weeb m8
>this is just like one of my mecha animes!
>woah the Japanese flag is so sugoi!
Does anyone know what Carlos does as a profession? I was wondering the whole game but the characters never talk about it
>>343772029
he also handles a fire axe like a fucking katana
>>343771820
Carlos is a fucking weaboo though.
>>343772049
He's a firefighter and it's brought up like 10 times anon
>>343772049
...firefighter?
>>343772049
He fucks his comatose sister for a living
>>343772049
...
>>343772049
A sick sister.
>>343772049
he was NEET
>>343772049
He's a kissogram.
>>343771684
Always happened to me when I posted something considered lewd enough to be bannable, 3 days for unspoilered, 5 days for spoilered.
>>343772049
I don't know man, he has some axes on his shirt? Lumberjack maybe?
>>343772049
He's a fanatic.
>>343772136
>>343772153
>>343772174
this truly is the worst timeline
>>343771975
Odds 35%, capsules and the heart puzzle got me. The alien one took me a while because I thought the solving tree generator thing gave you the red 13 sided alien number things.
>>343772369
welcome to /v/eddit
>>343771762
Loved the character designs in this game. Felt classy as fuck.
Completely different from the anime bullshit that was VLR.
>>343772617
>Ugh, I hate japanese style while playing my japanese game
*tips*
>>343772049
I think he's a Samurai
fuck mira and eric
shittiest fucking characters. uchi could have approached the whole snail angle with her very differently than her being a deranged murderer.... just because.
>>343772829
shouldn't you be in the danganronpa thread?
>>343770036
woah...... primo cummies material
>>343773037
I can multitask
LIFE IS SIMPLY UNFAIR
SOMETIMES A SINGLE SNAIL
COMPLEX MOTIVES
MIND HACKS
did this guy have any hobbies or friends or anything? 125 years of this edgy bullshit?
>>343759121
But his son could have done it himself.
>>343773214Left and Sean
>>343773214
...mom
Do you think Delta has fucked Betty before? for laughs haha
>>343765145
he wasn't raped by his dad.
