How do guns work?
very carefully
Magic
>>343745212
Correction: Black magic.
Very carefully crafted mechanical magic.
>>343745128
Powered by American pride
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJzXG7MYX1c
>>343745128
Explosions that throw shrapnel down a predetermined path.
>>343745128
Dey just werk, grot.
>>343745128
>>343745287
Correction: Kraut magic
Pew pew
>>343745826
>be german
>want to build gun
>accidentally cuckoo clock the mechanics
>release gun anyway
>we are still using mid 20th-century primitive weapon technology
>haven't even created a magnetic force field for personal defense so you don't have to wear bulky Armour that is 50/50 you won't die from internal bleeding.
>Lazer weapons are banned against humans unless you are attacking optical sights or missile defence
when aliens come here we won't stand a chance.
who knows?
>>343746167
We'll just beat the crap out of them with stun rods and reverse engineer their weapons.
>>343746145
>>release gun anyway
>>343746167
If they got the technology to reach us from practically anywhere outside the solar system, we probably don't stand a chance anyway.
>>343746302
>Bringing a melee weapon to a gun fight
>>343745826
so much moving parts
that thing is just asking to get jammed
>>343746167
>magnetic force field for personal defense
If you like carrying around an MRI you're free to do so, but if you're strong enough to net be bothered by it you probably won't even feel the bullets
Why was this allowed?
>>343745128
How do guns work?
>>343745128
Mass effect fields
![2FJ4q[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sTMtwh9.jpg "2FJ4q[1].jpg")
guys how do i shot
>>343745128
Why is Mass Effect the only game to actually give us cool futuristic guns that aren't lasers?
How do I gun
>>343745369
But how does a spring work?
>>343747663
Looks like a pipe gun with a SPAS stock attached to it, and a magazine just floating under it. What the fuck?
>>343747797
That's a Carl Gustav M/45
I'm actually curious myself
Do they ever stop working? Surely physics would say so
>>343747663
thats what I call a semi automatic
>>343747982
A gun properly blessed by a techpriest will never fail.
>>343747887
Isn't that an RPG?
>>343748076
> Techpriests
> Not relying on pure science, physics and technology
You Gue'La never cease to disappoint me.
>>343748617
You're too insignificant and brainwashed to have any concerns about the spread of the warp or heresy and if the imperium wished, you'd be wiped out such that the only remains would be locked away in some scribe's tome.
Unfortunately, that would require just enough effort to turn our focus from more existential threats.
some like it, i find it hopelessly outdated and weird
>>343748617
yeah she farts
>>343748961
That thing just screams "clunky but powerful".
>>343747131
gas piston reloads the shells?
>>343746302
hey, don't forget the high explosives
>>343747663
Oh hey, someone saved my stupid Payday 2 abominations
>>343746563
The best gun in the universe wont help if your opponent is bashing your brains outwith a rock.
>>343746167
Baring railguns we've taken hand held projectiles as far as we can. That and whats the point in thowing bolts of plasma or whatever when a .50 or rpg will make just as much of a mess?.
>>343748404
no, that would be the m/48.
The m/45 is a SMG more commonly known as the K-Pist or Swedish K. They were both designed in the Bofors Carl Gustaf Armory
>>343747745
It has a set resting state that it wishes to return to due to the way it is formed.
>>343749493
Interesting, It looks cobbled together like a motherfucker though.
>>343748617
Easy for you to say. Your gun wont sprout tentacles and rape you if you fuck it up.
Anyone got the copypasta as to just how completly fucked up Mars is?
>>343749415
flamethrower with a dash of lead
>>343749548
Well the real one looked like this, it was heavily favored by Navy Seals in Vietnam, the open bolt allowed them to fire quickly after leaving emerging from water. They loved them so much that when Sweden put an arms embargo on them they made a replica, the S&W M76. Last I heard it was still in use by harbor patrols in NYPD
>>343749548
Looks like a cheap submachine gun designed in the 40's
>>343750010
Was this designed in Garry's Mod?
daily reminder gun users are insecure coward who can't fight like a man.
>>343749972
It manages to look ugly and beautiful at the same time.
>>343750146
only if your framerate tanks everytime you fire it
>>343746847
>Tractor tank
Fuck yeah new zealand
>>343749415
That's dredd as fuck.
Does payday 2 have extreme customisation now or something?
>>343749434
>That and whats the point in thowing bolts of plasma or whatever when a .50 or rpg will make just as much of a mess?.
It'll probably come down to cost or weight efficiency. If you can carry more ammo for fancy plasma guns than regular gunpowder firearms, or if somehow plasma guns were cheaper for the same damage, you can bet they'll switch to plasma guns (eventually).
>>343750423
With scripts it does.
The modded guns are ridiculous enough as is though
>>343750423
Google NATO mod for Payday 2
Why aren't there more laser or plasma shotguns in video games?
>>343746705
Caseless weapons don't jam, boyo
>>343750782
Probably because they're hard to get right, a traditional shotgun feels a lot more satisfying.
Advanced Warfare had one that was sort of a mixture, but it never felt satisfying. Mass Effect 3 had a cool Geth shotgun that could be charged and fire three projectiles, but they had travel time.
Fallout 3/3/NV had tri-beam and scattered laser rifles that were fun, but there was no reason to use them in Fallout 4.
>>343751074
How would a non-traditional shotgun work?
>>343745287
Ork magic!
>>343745128
You pull trigger and they go PEW PEW PEW!
>>343745369
This video is surprisingly good
>>343751313
UT's flak gun.
>>343746847
The very first kill dozer.
>>343749434
>The best gun in the universe wont help if your opponent is bashing your brains outwith a rock
Only a retard would allow enemies to come that close
>>343751423
>that pic
Clerics and Monks on suicide watch
>>343751313
Well a shotgun is generally considered to be any gun that fires several projectiles in one blast, with the projectiles spreading into a cone of fire. So I guess the prime example of a non-traditional shotgun would be the Tri-Beam Laser Rifle from Fallout 3.
What makes traditional shotguns feel satisfying is how powerful they sound and feel, lasers and energy sounds just don't offer the same oomph as a nice buckshot snap with bass. The most satisfying shotgun I have ever used was the Mass Effect 3 Claymore. That thing sounded like god slamming a car door. Meanwhile the Geth shotgun just didn't hold a candle to it, despite having far more range and versatility.
>>343750010
Reminds me of this.
>>343751794
This. I just can't appreciate a gun that doesn't have sound and visual design to complement its damage.
Take the depezador from EYE. That fucker is overpowered: realistic narrow buckshot spread in a 32 round drum that visually makes literal mincemeat of everything armoured (so almost everything in the game). But it sounds like a generic stapler and looks like a tacticooled benelli.
It's generally agreed that it's one of the best weapons in the game but people only appreciate it for its killpower and bear no true admiration the design.
>>343752450
>of everything unarmoured*
>>343751794
>not the Gnasher from GoW1
Agreed though
>>343749972
simple as fuck, that's Swedish engineering for ya
>>343751794
>>343752608
Nothing beats the double barreled shotgun from the serious sam series
>>343752945
I think 2 and 3's DB Shotguns were better, but they're all great.
>>343752945
I was so disappointed in Fallout 4's double barrel.
what happens to my cheeky?
>>343754067
Looks like a giant pain in the ass to put the magazine in.
>>343754067
>having to insert the magazine under your arm
Why
>>343754310
The magazine is slightly off kilter, looks to be AUG based.
post brrrrrt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtJh_B4jDrY
>>343751794
Fair enough.
Is there a case where a laser or energy projectile is better than a bullet?
>>343754067
That magazine doesn't look like it can actually move.
>>343754469
I guess theoretically a rechargeable ammo source is more efficient space wise, ideally a laser would have no travel time, and pinpoint accuracy, but then why not amp up the power and make it a long range weapon?
>>343749270
He should be glad it missed, otherwise all those rookies would have been vaporized alongside the ayylien.
>>343754592
So essentially a railgun?
>>343750589
>>343749415
>>343747663
and hello.
yes
>>343754862
Yep, bringing me back to my original response to this thread.
Mass Effect just made all guns railguns. Which is fucking awesome.
>videogame shotgun
>tickles anything more than a few meters away
>real life shotgun
>turns shit that's 30 meters away into hamburger
>>343754565
The darker grey part on the bottom of the magazine is part of the magazine. It still moves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO0Hvjg6V78
>half mag sks reload animation
pr and squad have the best weapon animations
>>343755319
but this bit doesn't look like it moves. The magwell also makes it look like the magazine needs to be inserted straight in, rather than rocked in from an angle AK style.
>>343755016
I really should replay that sometime, the gun and armor design was top notch.
>>343746958
whats the problem here?
>>343755721
And it held up despite being reused for the next two games. I appreciated that, both Dragon Age and Mass Effect kept their armour between games, and added more to it.
>>343755968
But Mass Effect had a different cover armor for each series. They had similar elements, but were all distinct.
>>343755792
watch the ammo counter
>>343746958
Fires one shot, reloads 5.
>>343755792
>fires once
>loads in 5 rounds
>ejects another round after animation finishes
>ejection port on left side
>>343755792
>Hammer randomly sets in uncocked position
>Load five bullets when the magazine only can hold one more
>Use the lever again despite there already being a live round in the chamber
>>343756020
Yes, they did, but they retained the stock Light/Medium/Heavy models for NPC use, made the universe feel more cohesive. The N7 Armour was actually built off of the original Medium armour model.
>>343756152
Which game should I go back to just for the gunplay?
>>343756345
RE4
Binary Domain
>>343756345
Gunplay is Mass Effect 3 hands down, just play the multiplayer again if you liked it. ME2 was still finding it's place with the gears moveset. ME1 is clunky as fuck but when you level up you don't even need to try.
>>343756426
I was refering to the Mass Effect games, but I've always wanted to try out Resident Evil 4.
>>343756445
Is the multiplayer even alive? I remember it was a ton of fun.
>>343754686
False. The blast radius of the rocket moves up to the fence on the upper left, and misses the rookies at the upper right by an entire tile.
That's still a bad fucking idea of a shot because if it impaced the fencepost at the top it WOULD take out the rookie closest to it.
>>343754915
oh jesus
>>343756539
Not sure personally, haven't played it in two years or so, worth a shot though.
>>343749415
What that?Havent played pd2 for a year
>>343756902
Alright, thanks anon
>>343747160
Mass Effect gave us guns that use ammo so idk wtf you are talking about. Everything unique about the guns in the first game basically changed into generic as fuck shit guns besides the special weapons.
>>343747160
Aren't the overwhelming amount of weapons in the Mass Effect series railguns, gauss guns, or some other form of magnetically-propelled kinetic weapons?
>>343757252
While they implemented a thermal clip system it was for good reason, it allowed them to add more variety to weapons. Infinite ammo on a cooldown is nice in theory, but makes for poor gameplay.
But they still remained in lore extremely advanced, they were miniaturised rail guns, utilising minifacturing to shave off microscopic pellets of metal from an internal block "magazine" to be propelled with mass effect fields.
>>343746958
Why can a million dollar company be such hacks?
>>343757480
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons
>Weapons in the Mass Effect universe are micro-scaled mass accelerators, using mass-reducing fields and magnetic force to propel miniature slugs to lethal speeds. Nearly every gun on the battlefield is laden with features, from targeting auto-assists to projectile shavers that can generate thousands of rounds of ammunition from a small, internal block of metal.
>In Mass Effect, to generate ammunition a weapon shaves a projectile the size of a sand grain from a dense block of metal contained within the weapon's body. The projectile is launched at supersonic velocities by decreasing its mass in a mass effect field. Thousands of these tiny rounds can be produced from a single ammunition block. Ammunition is never a concern because of this, but managing the weapon's internal heat is; if a weapon is fired too rapidly, heat will build up inside of the weapon and it will overheat, forcing the operator to stop firing long enough for the weapon to disperse that heat buildup.
You now know how stupid it is that ME 2 and 3 essentially "retconned" this.
>>343757552
>While they implemented a thermal clip system it was for good reason
Not reading the rest of your reply. There was no good reason period. They bastardized their own lore like huge faggots they are.
>>343757826
They should have made thermal clips an option for longer sustained fighting.
When your gun overheats, either wait for it to cool down or pop the thermal clip to dump all the heat at once at the cost of a limited resource.
I don't see why they didn't do this.
Try this on for size
>>343757940
>I don't see why they didn't do this.
It's called
>we want the casual shooter audience
>>343746167
You're probably one of those people who believe that car engines today are the same as 50 years ago
>>343757826
Don't forget that people who logically should have had no access to the thermal clips had them despite being lost for 30 or so years.
>>343755792
Fires one bullet, reloads five.
Ejection port on the left side so it kicks hot casings back in your face when you use it righty.
>>343746847
harkonnen race
>>343757769
They didn't retcon it, the lore remains.
> heat will build up inside of the weapon and it will overheat, forcing the operator to stop firing long enough for the weapon to disperse that heat buildup.
The in universe justification was that studies of Geth weaponry showed a thermal clip system in use to maximize combat efficiency, and it makes sense for the most part.
>>343757826
Oh no please, let's not have a discussion on the merits of a traditional ammo system vs a cooldown system., that would be far too interesting.
>>343757940
The issue is balancing this, yes, they could have tried any combination of elements, but in the end, the simplest, and most effective way to balance everything was just to go with a traditional ammunition system.
>>343758092
>Last wenkel engine was on a prototype
Just kill me already
>>343758337
>They didn't retcon it
Sure but they did a huge ass pull to make it work. Even then they still had holes in their bullshit >>343758160
Fuck Mass Effect, fuck Bioware and fuck EA. Mass Effect had promise but became shit pretty damn quick once EA bought Bioware.
>>343754915
>never shoot the inaccurate for fear of blocking barrel with feengers
>>343758782
I think they did very well, considering how large scale the change is. It wasn't always smooth, there were understandable oversights, but nothing worth getting as pissed as some have been over it.
If that's the way you feel buddy, good for you. Personally, Mass Effect is my Star Wars, it's not perfect, but It's given me a lot of good memories and experiences. I'll always love it.
>>343745369
I'm surprised they didn't go over double action triggers, considering the m1917 revolver was still in service.
>>343756539
Late reply but when I played it a few months ago I could find a multiplayer match in less than a minute or faster every time I went to play.
That gun has a similar icon to 40k's Deathwing... Sword between two wings....
>>343759835
>...
what did he mean by this?
>>343745128
Is this the /k/ thread?
>>343760025
Ellipses are awesome...
