>Fiore is super popular.
>Realize Anne is the hidden gem in this game.
She is pure beauty.
That said. The reviews this game got seem accurate. Too bad.
How do you go from this-
To this?
Best girl is the main girl.
>>343736245
Does she have downs?
>>343736245
Not tiny enough, not big enough. She's in the dead zone.
>>343736245
>animation is 10/10
>face is -100/10
Don't worry, the PC version will -literally- fix everything
>>343733259
funny cuz the people on /v/ who have actually played it and aren't obvious shitposters make it sound like any other star ocean game. and only the 4th one was bad, the devs directly acknowledged they would draw from SO3 design instead which I'm fine with as long as the animations aren't stiff and awkward anymore.
>>343733259
No offense but Anne doesn't give a shit about you. Bitch only cares about cats. The game is only good for Fiore.
>>343736781
Nah, I am a long time Star Ocean fan and the game is below average. If you've been on the last few threads you would have seen my posts, criticizing the battle system and my discussion with a few others who have beaten the game on Chaos mode. The battle system does not work. They pretend to innovate with the tri-system of strong attacks, weak attacks, and guards, but you can beat even the Ethereal Queen by just spamming double slash and abusing the imbalanced role system. Miki's AI is retarded so you have to only teach her healing spells otherwise she won't do what I want. I would say it is better than 4, but definitely the second worse game in the series, due to technical and balance flaws alone. I would rank it from below average to average at best. At least 3 had an interesting story to carry it through the first half. I actually liked 4's battle system, more but hated the story. There's not much of a story to even talk about in 5 as it is so devoid of substance.
>>343737336
> but you can beat even the Ethereal Queen by just spamming double slash and abusing the imbalanced role system. [...] AI is retarded
again this sounds like all the same shit i remember in SO3.
AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE AIMING DEVICE
AIR RAID SIDE KICK AIR RAID etc etc
>>343736781
>weapons type do not show on characters in real time.
>Clone NPCs everywhere.
>recycled maps and enemies ripped from the precious games.
>environments are crisp but feel sterile.
>walking though people.
>whoever decided to make you do you own camera work during cutscenes needs o be fired.
>movement is clunky
This is coming from someone who actually did enjoy Star Ocean IV a bit. It feels like they did not do any game design review of the last game, and yet that pulled so many assets from the last game at the same time.
>>343736781
>funny cuz the people on /v/ who have actually played it and aren't obvious shitposters make it sound like any other star ocean game.
Star Ocean has always been mediocre.
>>343733259
these character designs are fucking putrid, what in the actual fuck is this shit
>>343736781
Depends on your definition of bad. I would call it mediocre to forgettable kind of like when I watched Sword Art Online. This game does not feel ambitious the way 3 was. 4 was bad due to story alone. I would say 5 is just bland and feels incomplete and underdeveloped. The battle system is currently broken and way too abusable. Talk to any fan on /v/ who actually plays the game, and you'll realize that combos, sidesteps, the tri-system, and any sense of strategy does not matter. For the later bosses with millions of HP, you just gotta mash circle and hope the fights don't take too long.
>>343737565
SO1 and SO2 were excellent jrpgs. SO3 is debatable but you can't deny it was a pretty ambitious leap graphically.
i was hoping this game was just going to be an HD sequel to SO3 and carryover most of that game's mechanics. that's how the devs made it sound anyway, paired with a sort of light roadtrip story.
>>343737487
So, your definition of good is that in Star Ocean 3 you could solo the Ethereal Queen by spamming SIDEKICK SIDEKICK SIDEKICK?
To me thats not a good thing. I wa shoping they would expand on this. I should be allowed to choose that play-style if I want OR other play-styles, not have it be the single handedly BEST way to play the game. Other tactics like guarding or interrupting large attacks are hyped up in the tutorial of Star Ocean 5, as if this is the NEW way to play the game. It pales in comparison to just changing to Emmerson and spamming ranged attacks.
Also when you get to the bonus bosses you can barely see what is happening, because the camera movements are shitty and with all party members on the field, their attack animations clog up the screen.
>>343736245
Um no? What the hell is wrong with the spacing of her eyes and nose?
>>343738128
every star ocean game has derived fun primarily from breaking it over your knee with the tools and mechanics presented
in the first 2 games it was parries and crafting (you could get claude's best sword before even reaching the harbor on Disc1)
in SO3 it was finding the right moves to chain that could stunlock enemies and fuck them to death (plus crafting was still great)
SO4 i just don't know WHAT the fuck happened
>>343733259
is anyone else getting fucked by der-suul?
how do you beat this fucker?
>>343737879
I dump on the game not because of the story at all. My standards have been lowered for JRPG story these days. I dump on it because it has a lot of technical drawbacks. The camera adjust when you don't play as Fidel and it auto adjusts to someone else, real-time cutscenes, and recycled soundtracks/character models just look lazy to me. Not a shit game but definitely not a good game. Solid 5/10 experience for me.
This game is a complete trash. Like below average trash.
>>343737336
>Miki's AI is retarded so you have to only teach her healing spells otherwise she won't do what I want
You can turn spells you don't want the AI to use off. She never uses melee attacks for me.
>>343738467
>>343737487
>>343736781
I'm sorry, I don't want to have this discussion again since you're clearly sold on the game. If you enjoy the game then more power to you folks. I will still say the story is just as bad as 4 but in a different way. While these characters and plot are not annoying, there is just is not any soul put into any of them. An annoying personality is at least a personality. None of SO5's characters are really expressive enough for you to care about them. Fidel's dialogue is very minimal with barebones answers and reactions to other characters. Aside from Fiore, I wouldn't shed a tear even if most of the cast were killed off. The main story also feels like a shell or an afterthought.
>>343737336
>abusing the imbalanced role system
>Miki's AI is retarded so you have to only teach her healing spells otherwise she won't do what I want
You realize those roles affect AI patterns right?
If you want her to heal, give her healing roles
>>343738585
Run the fuck away when he's about to unleash his AOE attack. Spam Air Slash from a distance.
He's even more fun in the bonus dungeon where his AOE is even more likely to 1shot fucking everyone and the fight takes even longer.
Are all the difficulties unlocked from the beginning this time?
>>343739303
I know? Roles affect stats and AI patterns. It's not always reliable though. Miki is my primary healer, and I give her no offense spells. This doesn't stop the roles from being ridiculously imbalanced though. After upgrading necromancer Dead Man Walking should just be removed from the game. It's too strong.
>>343739331
it wouldn't be so hard if there was some way to know when hes about to use the attack. also the save point is annoying
>He's even more fun in the bonus dungeon where his AOE is even more likely to 1shot fucking everyone and the fight takes even longer.
pfft fuck that noise
>>343739454
No, two difficulties locked until you beat the game.
There is no new game plus so equipment does not carry over. New difficulty's health increases are dumb though. Every boss feels like an HP sponge slugfest.
>>343739679
I think he kind of vanishes (jumps into the air?) right before he unleashes that attack.
At least that's what it looked like to me.
>>343739703
what the fuck why, is it the same as SO4 where you need to replay the game if you want combat that isn't mash A?
>>343738842
For me, If I give her just one offensive spell (explosion) plus healing spells she has these derp moments when she doesn't stop casting explosion. How annoying that I have to turn it off.
High number of units in battle at once was a bad idea.
Battle Camera was a bad idea
These things together turn what could be a really cool combat system into a race to the bottom
Things just devolve into spamming an AoE move that gives you super armor during the animation.
You can't see what the hell is going on and something is going to interrupt you if you don't do that.
>>343737558
>>whoever decided to make you do you own camera work during cutscenes needs o be fired.
Oh for fuck's sake, I was going to pick up the game this morning but that sounds like a chore.
>>343738467
I was actually hoping that they would tone most of this down in SO5. What angers me is that they pretend like Star Ocean has changed for the better in SO5's tutorial. Like, this tri-system of strong, weak attacks, and guards is actually interesting. When in reality nothing has changed when it comes to spamming strong attacks..
Something I've been wondering.
Am I too stupid to use roles effectively, or is the AI still too stupid to be able to react to and evade certain instant death attacks?
Some bosses in the post dungeon have been really annoying. The chimera perticularly because it would spam its instant death AOE all fight long. Had to give Miki HP boost so at least she could survive it.
>>343740034
>High number of units in battle at once was a bad idea.
no, it just needs to be refined.
>>343733259
hated her till i noticed those chunners tier hips and thighs, plus a navel thats *just* out of sight
then saw her in her military uniform during that one certain scene and it was over
>>343740147
Cutscenes are weird in this game.
They're done in engine, and to hammer that in you're still playing during them. For the most part.
You'll randomly gain and lose character and camera control at points though where the game will take over before letting you do your own thing again. Especially noticeable in the Welsh Vineyard cutscenes for her string of side quests.
>>343739834
Yeah, I can't remember the name of it, but it flashes at the top of the screen like every other skill. I just hold guard and back step like a retard to get away from it.
>I learned how to take a pounding from Fiddly
This game
>>343736781
>>343737879
>>343738467
If you can get past his accent, this guy points out everything essentially wrong with the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDoKgKMVvY
>>343736245
SO1 was fine, the lead heroine was decent
SO2 had reina, she was cute
SO3 had that 9-head downs chick who only looked good in fan art and doujins
SO4 had the hot shrine meido looking childhood friend, pretty hot
now we have potato chan, really sucks. akiman dun goofed
>>343739292
>The main story also feels like a shell or an afterthought.
Shame. I'm a couple of hours in and was hoping it would get better. Everything about it seems so barebones. Especially with how little the characters say and how easily they join up with you.
>>343740571
>SO4 had the hot shrine meido looking childhood friend, pretty hot
I'll never forget her because of the "don't look up my skirt!" cutscene when she isn't wearing a skirt.
>>343738350
sauce?
>>343739903
The combat is fun, but it's still primarily mash circle in this game. Air slash and double slash, all day every day. You can still choose to play the game in some interesting ways but god dang, there is so much health you need to chew through on Chaos Mode.
>>343740265
>or is the AI still too stupid to be able to react to and evade certain instant death attacks?
This pretty much. The der-suul fight was infuriating because like 3-4 characters would just take his aoe to the face, get killed, and then do the same thing after I revived them.
>>343740550
The sad part is he was trying to be nice while saying the flaws and the flaws were still horrible.
I wanna pet Relia's head
>>343740663
I play the game for Fiore only becaue I like drill hair. Russian space loli IS FUCKING ANNOYING though. Keeps asking em to help her in battles. Is there any way for you to get characters to shut up mid-battle? The combat is decent but everyone talks over each other, and it gets hard to hear sometimes.
>>343740571
People always shit on Star Ocean 4's cast, but damn they were so much hotter than 5's cast.
SO4:
>>Reimi
Hotpants, cute butt, ponytail, tsundere, violent bitch, Laura Bailey
>>Myuria
Dominating personality, dynamite body, single widow, addresses me as boy
>>Lymle
Meh....she looks ok when she grows up
>>Meracle
Nyaa fetish the character
SO5:
>>Miki
Mutated, pinked hair potato with eyes on the side of her head
>>Anne
Meh..One moment she's serious, one moment she likes cats?
>>Fiore
Only good female character here. Perfection
>>Relia
She's better and cuter than the creepy Lymle but thats not saying much
>>343740265
It's always been like this for all Star Ocean games. Unavoidable AOE nuke attacks that can wipe out the full party. They exist in Tales games too but are far less extreme than Star Ocean. Many fans love this shit. I think its a fundamental flaw that the series has had for fucking forever, and they should have fixed it by now.
So how does this game tie into the other games?
>>343740940
He's obviously a big fan of the Star Ocean series and wants the games to succeed. At the same time he is not afraid to to point out the game's issues. He discusses this in the comments when some Youtuber said he was being too negative.
I personally think the game can be fun, but the fans are getting way too defensive about anyone saying anything critical.
>>343742439
isemmerson the son of claude and reina?
>>343737336
ive seen you bitching about the combat in other threads and consistently being btfo. when will you give it up? everything about this game is shit except for the combat.
>>343733259
>The reviews this game got seem accurate
>Western reviews of Japanese games
>ever accurate unless the Japanese game in question is popular among normalfags and they're paying for good reviews
lol
>>343739903
>>343733259
A lot of anons so far praise the combat but it's mainly been press circle for me. Also, I'm a fan of JRPGs but this feels like like a JRPG and more like some MMORPG, at least with the style of cutscenes they do.
>>343741868
You forgot serah or whatever her name was, angel bitch
>>343742782
How exactly have I been btfo? I've argued that the combat is fun, not balanced, and most of the tri-system stuff introduced in the tutorials does not matter. For the most part, others have agreed with me. The combat is fun. It's less fun when you take it seriously on higher difficulties and have to wail your strong attacks on bosses with gigantic health bars and aoe nukes. No one's ever flat out disagreed with that. How much enjoyment you or I get out of said combat...now that is subjective.
till the end of time is such a good game ... and then the recent ones .. wow x_x
>Japs hate the game because censorship and nothing else
>Western reviewers don't get the game because they hate jrpgs
what next?
>>343742902
>>343743727
There's a lot of JRPG lovers who have even been long time fans of the series, as well as hard core Tales fags. Most of them know the genre but think the game is mediocre.
>>343740710
shintaisou
>>343743727
>>343742902
How about no? The Japanese reviews on Amazon.jp are primarily angry that the story is too short. I barely see censorship mentioned at all.
>>343741868
SO 4 meracle = feetfetish
>>343736245
she looks like a fraggle or a gelfling
either way she's got a serious Jim Henson thing going on
>>343740456
I hate the whole waypoint thing you have to run to to break up the party in towns. Wy do I need to do the to view PA events. I would rather just go to an area and watch the PA, than trek back and forth to these waypoints?
>>343742782
Sorry to reply again. I think you may have me confused with someone else. I never tried to say the combat is shit. I said it can be very enjoyable but the tri-system of attacks they hype up in the tutorial does not work well especially weak attacks which are supposed to be used to cancel large attacks but few people play like that in the higher difficulties. Strong attacks are much better than guarding or weak attacks. It's mindless fun but I mentioned that I wish it would be patched because I think the system could be much better.
>Caring about any Star Ocean games after SO2
They have all be shit from 3 on. Edge Maverick will forever be hilarious to be though.
>>343743951
>not petite+navel fetish
>>343733259
Why was the game so short? And where was the usual SO tweest?
>>343745296
>no x claw spam in SO5
FUCK EVERYTHING
>>343745672
Just spam Air Raid
Hell, just spam Double Slash
>>343745143
EDGE
>>343745143
HERO I COME FAIIIIIIZZEEEE. Holy shit Tri-Ace, I don't even write, but hire me as your writer. You won't regret it.
Just got to the area before Santeroule and they're reusing a throwaway track from SO3. Did this game have any budget whatsoever? That's lazy as fuck.
>>343736791
But Fiore isn't interested in you either. She only wants that shota genius.
>>343748062
>they're reusing a throwaway track from SO3
No, that's just Sakuraba for ya.
Wow the mirror party boss fight in the cave of trials is complete BS
makes me want to smash my controller
>>343740675
https://youtu.be/_4bbmZ7KhlU?t=44
>>343752326
So glad my japanese is on a level where I'll never have to suffer that kind of voice acting again.
>>343752542
Yes you will, SO4s voice acting was attrocious in both languages. Lymle is generally agreed to be worse.
Literally all the budget went on Fiore. The game is atrocious.
>>343752542
>he doesn't know how bad the jap voices are
>>343752542
I played the ps3 version and you could change the VA to japanese with english subs.
>>343752603
The english dub was atrocious.
the japanese one was good, it fit perfectly with the anime Atmosphere.
Who is she?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>343738467
>(you could get claude's best sword before even reaching the harbor on Disc1)
You can't get it until the 2nd continent. You can get a marvel sword, but it's not the best
Does anyone else find it strange/messed up that you can beat the game without even going deep into synthesis/augmentation?
Then again, maxed out roles do so much damage alone. Weapon modification is pointless.
>>343755058
You can beat every star ocean without ever touching item creation. This isn't some new thing
>>343740550
This is actually one of the best reviews I've ever seen/read for a game.
>>343754782
She's just a mysterious woman.There's a quest that involves you giving a message to Victor about someone named Rebecca, which you get from this mysterious woman. That's literally it.
>>343733259
>At first I was into Mikis cuteness
>Then I was introduced to Fiore then my dick was diamonds for her
>Finally introduced to Anne, nothing at first.. Then slowly I realized, she was always best girl.
Love the game so far tho wish it had more content 60 hours in im going for the plat.
>>343755058
>>343755161
Purpose of item creation is for the post game
>>343757936
Not until 3. 2 gives you all the tools you need for postgame in the post game
>>343757998
Saying in 5 tho, even if you spam the best stuff like Deadman walking, ethereal queen will one shot AOE your whole team so often that you will probably run out of revive items before you even kill her
Hows the game?
>>343758258
For an RPG gameplay itself is pretty fucking great. Harder battles require pre-planning and it has these FF12 vibes when you choose how to program your team like with the gambits, cept when you actually control the character its fun and satisfying
Content is very low tho alot of repeptitive shit, but a decent enemy beastiary.
>>343752542
I actually dislike SO5's voice acting. Do I have shit taste?
>>343758258
Slightly better overall than SO3.
They still haven't bit the bullet and adopted a Tales style control mapping for their Killer Moves, so you're stuck spamming 2 moves the whole game because basically all the game's systems lead towards it.
My biggest complain though is how tedious it is to complete side quests if you do them as early as possible, mostly because of the massive amount of running back and forth it's going to take you, and then you get fast travel, and then you LOSE FAST TRAVEL AGAIN.
>>343758869
Probably
Emmerson is great, sounds like Troy baker.
Fidels VA is w.e
Miki is pretty good unless you dont like little energetic girls
Fiore is PERFECT imo.
Victor IS Crispin Freeman probably one of the better known actors around.
Anne is average
Relia is the only thing that bothers me but not nearly as bad as Lymle from SO4
>>343758258
It's a solid 5/10 experience for me. The gameplay looks and plays like a Star Ocean game. They somehow made it more broken than before though, especially the roles mechanic (necromancer/dead man). Story somehow manages to be worse than 4 which impressed me. Best way to describe characters is undercooked. Edge was a colossal faggot but at least he had a personality. Fidel somehow comes off as having no personality at all. If you zoom the camera in, he always looks super angry though.
>>343759187
The story sucks ass completely on all fronts,
but I think the characters are actually great. Fidel doesnt have a personality, for some reason I felt more inserted because he was so nonexistent despite being the protag in a narrative driven rpg.
>>343758258
Better than 4, worse than 3 if you're talking about the whole package. Battles are fun but the game is paradoxical in that it tells you to UTILIZE guards, strong attacks, and weak attacks which cancel strong attacks, but the system doesn't favor this. rather it favors spamming one or two strong attacks the whole game. Story is literally shorter than my dick, and my dick is a fucking thumbtack. 6/10 experience overall. Fun but forgettable/mediocre.
Did they ever finally fixed spam strong attack skills to win from SO3?
i skipped 4 so i dunno.
>>343759520
The only star ocean that isn't spam skills to win is 2, and even then you spam skills until your regular melee is fast enough to replace it and you start shooting a spray of damage dealing stars out of it
>>343759396
>>343759130
If self insertion is your thing then yeah, you might really like Fidel. He might as well be Ludger from Xillia 2. I just can't get into it though. I'd take a faggot like edge who I hate over someone like Fidel who's kind of like plain oatmeal. I would feel no real emotion for him if he failed his quest and his father.
>>343759520
No.
In 4 you just played as the cat girl and spammed X-Claws to victory.
and in this game you can just spam the fucking starting move not even joking.
>>343759520
>>343759595
The thing that just makes me mad about 5 is from the tutorial in the beginning they act like THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT with their fancy little tri-system but in the end the best way to play the game turns out to be the way we've always been playing it. Nothing much has really changed in this 20 year old series.
>>343738458
Tail to high
>>343759780
why support such a trash dev then
>>343759780
Unless the goal to combat changes from "kill the enemy" I don't know what you expect. They made bigger changes in 4 with blindside and people bitched about having to do something besides spam attack
>>343759780
>THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT with their fancy little tri-system
I think you meant THIS TIME IT'S EXACTLY LIKE SO3
Because that system was in that game.
>>343759949
>bitched about having to do something besides spam attack
hahaha
The failure of blindside was that they were absolutely worthless to use outside of the 2 boss battles that were specifically designed to get you to use them.
>>343759649
>>343759595
Is this honestly a good thing though? I'm having fun with it but I'm 30 hours in and so far I've just been mashing double slash/air slash.
Reminds me of 3, when I just did air raid again and again. I can see why people complain about it. Maybe heavily incentivize some alternate play-styles?
What about the lenght of the game? Is it really only 30h long? I like to do all the sidequests I come along in RPGs and don't mind some grinding.
Have nothing really to play right now and I have a soft spot for mediocre games if there is still enjoyment to be found. But I'm bit on the edge because I played SO4 for about 5h and dropped it.
>>343760058
Alternate playstyles are already in the game. It's not up to the game to make you use them
I've been kicking stuff with Anne since she learned this super kick just because I like her legs
>>343759949
>>343759964
Opinions man. I loved blindside. I thought it was super fun to get the timing down. But damn, did it feel useless. Thats what I mean when I say make more changes. Make alternate stuff MORE powerful, and maybe nerf strong attacks.
>>343760181
Yeah but this many hours in, the system leans heavily in favor of just mowing down enemies with one or two skills. You can play how you want but there is a clear favorite here.
The aoe nukes are getting to be a bit of a problem now. My whole party dies instantly so my healers are useless.
>>343760105
game is like 20-30 hours, if you do want the plat it will take over 100 hours for sure. Its pretty fun tho
>>343760406
Give some of them ranged attacks and roles that make them want to stay back. Maybe they'll stop suiciding. Maybe
>>343760105
It seems to really vary. Personally I cleared the main story in 24 hours but I never farmed enemies and I only did some of the PA events.
>>343760105
I beat the main story in 20 hours lol.
You have to really try to stretch it out to get 30 hours for the main story. Like do A LOT of side-quests and PA events. I played the game blind but assumed it was going to be long. Fuck.....
>>343760058
There's a couple system failures that lead to the stale combat in this game.
Unlike the Tales series, you have very limited Killer Move access at any given time.
As a Melee character you're always going to be using 1 or 2 skills and as a ranged I guess you get 4 because you can actually chose to stay at "Long".
But they aren't going to adopt the tales button mapping because they're prideful and hate Namco, which is kinda the whole reason Tri-Ace even exists.
Killer Moves have super armor for their entire animation so they take precedent over the guard beats weak beats strong beats guard dynamic they have.
They can't really just drop the super armor though because some fights in the game get incredibly hectic with the large number of simultaneous combatants and you'd get knocked out of literally EVERYTHING otherwise.
>>343759130
Meh. I only agree with Fiore. Still prefer the Japanese audio.
>girls all have hideous potato faces
>>343761406
Excuse me?
>>343758258
4/10 game if you judge it by the whole package. Atmospherically it feels like an MMORPG especially with those shitty cutscenes. The actually decent voice acting is overshadowed by one of the worst scripts i've ever seen. Fiore carries this forgettable cast.
8/10 game if you judge it by the battle system ALONE. Battles in this game are fun, but I see a lot of criticism towards spamming. I think if they introduced cool shit like blindsiding but made the tactic more powerful, that could fix spamming but getting high multipliers for combos is so much fun. Relia is a pretty shit party member though.
>>343759520
No. The moment I discovered that AIR RAID, AIR RAID, AIR RAID was actually the best way to play the game, it killed my love for the series. Gradually I found out that it wasn't ever changing, even in newer games. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.
>>343761906
>AIR...RAID
>best way to play
>not SIDE KICKWell we all know it's scatter beam, but still.
>>343762038
AIMING DEVICE
Maybe the secret to SO3 was that you could really spam whatever you wanted because there were just so many broken good moves
>>343759964
Ok sure, but the game's tutorial did actually goad me into thinking that this time the better way to play now, was to anticipate my enemies' moves, cancel their strong attacks with a weak attack, then get a good combo in. I was just hoping there would be more depth this time. I would have loved if there was some new guard/counterattack then critical strike system or something like that.
>>343761502
Errrr. Who is that? I actually can't tell if she's a girl in this shot. Looks like a feminine dude. Kind of like that green archer from Valkyrie Profile 2. What was his name again?
>>343761406
I think the hottest ones are probably the pink haired innkeeper/the blond nurse on the spaceship.
>>343743949
You're not very sharp, ain't you.
I can only see this going wrong
>>343762038
>>343762217
Oh yeah for sure. Those were the days. I personally just spammed air raid on Ethereal Queen and I was able to win. Then I looked up that video of Fayt solo-ing her by spamming SIDEKICK. Sophia was so useless though until she got her ultimate spells like meteor and even then she sucks compared to Nel or Maria.
At least Fayt's skills were kinda cooler when I first saw them. All of Fidel's skills look exactly the same.
>>343762584
If I can choose my Waifu in this game I will order it now.
>>343762584
Thats the right answer you're sitting on there
in the next few moments you will have a witch sitting on top of you as well.
>>343762584
Considering your best (to look at) party member is standing in front of you, only a fool would say they do.
>>343763036
Nope. Even during the endgame scenes, Potato says she wants to be Fidel's wife, but too low for him to hear.
>>343760727
Lets just hypothetically say Tri-Ace wants to switch it up for the next Star Ocean (assuming that the sales are enough). What would be best to change?
>>343763047
It's actually a bad one, probably the worst. Fidel says no woman in his life, and fiore takes the wording directly.
>>343763036
No, not in the literal sense. The PA relationships just get you one extra cutscene in the ending and they're often just a tease.
>>343733259
The character models look better than 4, especially Welch, but I liked the models for 3 much more even with the game being graphically inferior. I'm still not used to creepy plastic faces. Miki looks like a cabbage patch doll.
>>343736694
Will it? Elaborate please desu.
>>343733259
I was hoping Eurogamer would be more forgiving towards the game since I actually like a lot of their reviews. They were not. I want to trust a JRPG reviewer but I feel most are too biased in favor of the games. I like the JRPG genre, btu Tri-Ace has always been a very mixed bag for me going all the way back to the days of Valkyrie Profile 2. Love hate relationship for sure.
>tfw I opened my copy
>everyone says it's a shit game now agree saying the reviewers were wrong
>>343733259
Fiore and Anne panty shots are the only reasons I'm enjoying this. Game is pretty shitty otherwise. Graphics look smooth but I'm getting FPS drops from 60 to 30 so some issues with frame pacing? Gameplay is all about finding what new skill to spam.
>>343765771
No one here who isn't shit posting is saying it's a shit game. It's a painfully mediocre game that feels unfinished but also has very fun battles and so-so voice acting.
>>343733259
The game's problems are less of an issue with this Star Ocean in particular and more about the series just not aging very well as a whole. As time has gone on, the series's problems are becoming more obvious when compared to other modern JRPGs. The game feels like a weird mix of archaic design with newer graphics. There's just a lot of retro features that need to go. It's really the most frustrating kind of game because it screams wasted potential.
>>343765771
>>343733259
>>tfw you only look at mainstream reviewers
Even hardcore JRPG reviewers spend the majority of their review dumping on the game.
Come on guys, I'm enjoying myself but this really is not a good game.
http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Star_Ocean_Integrity_and_Faithlessness/index.html
>>343766892
this is what's happened to most JRPGs.
Look at the poor reception to XIII.
JRPGs were limited to hardware at the time. As other games/genres got better/were made JRPGs coasted on the momentum of Story(since it was always a big factor) which wasn't tied to hardware. So nobody really noticed the car was stalled.
CG graphics also gave the stalled car a little more coast. Hence why VII(3D) and X(voice acting) were loved and their flaws overlooked.
I think MMO's really killed a lot of desire to play JRPGs as well.
And that the genre tried to find a home, embracing the limitations of portable consoles to relive the past and keep the dead genre alive.
>>343733259
Wait is this game out already?
>>343739992
th-there's nothing wrong with spamming explosion magic at every opportunity!;_;
>>343763036
Pathetic.
>>343769729
How to turn a mediocre Star Ocean Game
into an awesome one: add Megumin!
>>343768483
Yeah, the game really isn't that good though unless you're a die hard fan of Star Ocean. Even then, it's hard to ignore a lot of the technical flaws.
The series hasn't really been ironed like I hoped. Maybe we'll get a director's cut of SO5 that fixes these problems.
It truly stuns me that people thought this game could be good after Star Ocean 4
What was going through your heads?
That was one of the worst games I've ever played.
So what?
>7 regions
>Battle takes no skill
>Broken crafting system
Is it even worth buying?
>>343757760
She became best girl after i found out Fiore is after that shota dick.
>>343771325
>>343765771
It's not shit. The game is decent enough if you're into JRPGs but it is very rough and barebones.
>>343771325
Fiore wants her old teacher, not the shota. Fiore's also a fujoshi
>>343772046
>but it is very rough and barebones.
Two of the last games I played were nights of azure and ZTD. SO5 is far from either of those words. People just go into star ocean expecting some FF level theatrics and polish when the series has never been on that level.
>I wouldn't be here without training
