Can we talk about how great this game is? Currently picking up a playthrough I started in the build up to Dark Souls 3 release and man I always forget just how good it is.
I dunno if it's just the atmosphere or what but man it's something special.
Any good stories and memories from your playthrough, /v/?
Hmm, no one?
I got my first hate mail last year when I was summoned for the Old Monk fight. Winged spear is a nasty weapon to fight against.
>>343685212
Just two days ago I tried to get to the last fight, but I'm stuck at the blue dragon. Even if I bring with me 500 heavy arrows, when he flies away to the second spot I manage to deal him only 3 to 6 damage each shot and I don't dare getting closer because it's fire can one shot me. Every other magic attack simply doesn't have the reach to get him from the middle of the staircase so I'm stuck with my upgraded lava-bow
>>343688319
Are you in ng+? I did this yesterday with normal arrows and I used like 200, if not maybe you don't have enough strength or dex
>>343688319
Just run on the right side when he's breathing air from right to the left.
>>343688319
Use poison arrows instead.
Amazing theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjotdhdBLM&ab_channel=ickylols
>>343690515
Sorry meant to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnfzIhrGjLc
>>343690515
fuck this song, it gets stuck in your head
>>343690972
fucking yes, best theme in the game
>>343685212
It's a meme. The game is mediocre and DaS is the better game.
t. Someone who has only played DeS and DaS.
>>343691197
It didn't age well, if you played DeS as your first souls game you may have some bias/nostalgia to it. It actually has really poor combat compared to the others which is no surprise given it's the first of the series.
DaS is From's magnum opus, and i doubt it will ever be topped.
>>343691384
>DaS is From's magnum opus, and i doubt it will ever be topped.
it already has been topped. it's called bloodborne.
>>343691384
It can't be a magnum opus with such a rushed second half.
>>343688319
On the second stop, just wait and run up on the right side of the stairs. You'll be right bellow his head and you can kill him at your pace from there.
>>343691561
Let's not do the bait bullshit anon
>>343691634
As sad as it is, even with Izalith and Demon Ruins being rushed it still a better game than the last 3 entries (BB, DaS2, DaS3)
>you will never enter Latria for the first time ever again
;_;
>>343691561
Epic
Demon souls > dark souls 3 > dark souls 2 > bag of dirt > venereal disease > liberalism > dipping a fork in sterno and jabbing it into your eye > dark souls 1
>>343691942
Game could have had some really nice horror elements if it wasn't for the fact that the enemies flail around so fucking hilariously when they get killed.
>>343691384
I played DeS a full year after DaS and I still consider it a better game.
Bloodborne is better than both however.
>>343691794
>>343691943
I'm not baiting. playing since BB since release now and it captivates me more than DaS ever could with its world and faster combat. how narrow-minded do you have to be to think that EVERY SINGLE PERSON on earth prefers DaS over BB?
>>343691942
DING DING
DING DING
HELP ME
DING DING
DING DING
>>343692354
The fucking sound effects in there.
The Noble Lady's singing. Rydell crying like a lunatic.
The ballista machine
DING DING.
Fucking all of it.
Dark Souls (Pre-Vessel) > Old Hunters > SotFS > Dark Souls (Post-Vessel) > Bloodborne > Demons' Souls > Dark Souls II > Dark Souls III
>>343691384
One of my favorite things about any Souls games is replayability, and DaS is junk when it comes to that. Having to get through the game up to Anor Londo every character before the world opens up/fast travel becomes accessible gets really tiresome, whereas with DeS, the world opens up right after 1-1 and you're free to progress however you want.
>>343692550
let's not forget the the mindflayers in-combat. if you got to latria early, one mistake and you're dead. which helped set the tone
>>343691384
I disagree. The combat is basically on the same level as Dark souls, and neither of them really have especially great combat mechanics. But Demon Souls still has better graphics than Dark Souls, has some really amazing areas, and I ultimately feel it's an amazing game on par with Dark souls. This is coming from someone who played in the order of DS 1, DS 2, and then Demon Souls
>Fake King Fucking Allant
>>343692615
I don't like when people chop up their lists like this. Each game should be considered on the whole.
>>343692615
Post Vessels DS is absolute garbage, worse than DS2
>>343692758
The combat is not the same, DeS locks your rolls into 4 directions based on where you are facing.
DaS rolls are based on where your stick is pointing.
Wish I read the rest of your post before replying because I just now read DeS looks better and realized I'm responding to a shitposter. =/
>>343692615
>DaS post LV > BB
what the fuck am I reading?
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9eK7dH8.png "latest[1].png")
>>343692550
I literally thought the singing was from the Mindflayers for the longest time.
But yeah, Latria is GOAT. I remember the first time doing 3-2, it was such a creepy feeling getting into the "elevator" and plunging down into the darkness for way longer than you would think the structure is tall.
>>343693006
Artorias, Manus, Kalameet are all Post Vessel. So nah
>>343692615
Wrong
>>343693148
that's the DLC. Post LV is generally archives, catacombs, izalith, new londo aka hot shit
>>343692690
Those two red mindflayers on the impossibly narrow stairs leading to Old Monk.
Oh my unholy fuck.
>>343692615
I agree, Bloodborne made me regret buying a PS4, but Old Hunters made me glad I kept it.
>>343693148
Not the guy you replied to, but these are all DLC.
If you look at any game in the series, the DLC bosses are always a hell of a lot better than vanilla. DS1, DS2, BB.
>>343693282
DLC can't be accessed until post-vessel.
>>343693284
When you regain your human form for the extra HP but it doesn't change the fact that you'll keep dying on those two mindflayers
>>343693284
anti magic field is your friend. makes them effectively harmless. too bad i didn't know about this for a looong time
>>343693035
I don't remember that being a thing, and either way one difference in the rolling mechanic does not make a worse game. I never had any trouble using rolling, so the fact that you would recognize that as a problem shows that you couldn't git gud enough. Also it does look better, Everyone who has seen me play Demon souls who has also played Dark souls collectively agree there's something in the design and graphics of Demon Souls that make it look nicer than Dark Souls.
>I don't like his opinion, so he's a shitposter
Nice argument, fucklord.
can any drawfriend here draw the slayer of demons blowing as hard as he can into a trumpet?
>>343693284
I never found reliabe way to deal with them.
Worse enemies than the Old Monk offline.
That let's play on SGDQ was great!
>>343693383
i know. and per definition your are correct, but that's not what people generally refer to as "post LV content" hence the confusion
>>343693383
It is still irrelevant. DLCs are small bits of content which get a lot of effort and thought put into them. They are beside the game, not a part of it. They're this branch they've added with great content, not the standard game
>>343693284
>>343693453
>>343693454
>Not just being a mage and soul ray spam blasting them into oblivion before they can even turn around.
fragrant ring too OP
>>343693035
DeS looks better than console DaS, the enviroments aren't as detailed but it looks marginally cleaner and is a higher resolution
>>343692876
Okay
DaS > DaS II > BB > DeS > DaS III
>>343693657
Not all of my characters use miracles.
>>343693785
That is a bullshot.
>>343693785
yeah, but i always feel that the tutorial you posted looked way better than the rest of the game
>>343693902
it's not. from just front-loaded the game with nicer-looking level. a bull-tutorial so to speak. it looks like that in game
>>343693902
>bullshot
Sorry you're blind. DeS is so much better in graphics it's a wonder how Dark Souls managed to downgrade and still not even improve the core gameplay to make up for it.
Is the only good souls game
>>343693467
Might have something to do with Demon's being 720p with no AA and Dark Souls being something like 600p with a vaseline smear AA solution. Something about Demon's does make it look better than Dark.
I don't think Latria and Boletarian Palace have been topped yet. They really are brilliant.
But I strongly dislike the other levels.
>>343691009
HA HAHAHA HA HAHAHA
>>343694435
I can understand not liking Stonefang, but not even Shrine of Storms?
>>343690972
I literally stopped playing for a good half hour after hearing this theme and Astrae & Garl dialogue asking you to leave them. Never in my whole experience as a gamer have I felt this bad about killing a boss.
>She suicide if you kill Garl and talk to her
Fuck me.
>>343693118
yeah or the woman singing
what the fuck
Also always wondered how the game world was like. Was the tower of latria on an isle? Inside Boletaria? A neighbour realm perhaps? It was also engulfed in the colorless fog. Where's the Queen? What was the deal with the valley of defilment and the fetuses?
>>343694667
next time kill astrea first with a bow or something. you're in for treat
I liked DaS I and II the best and there's nothing you retards can do about it.Why does Garl Vinland have so much magic resist, I just spent 10 minutes hitting him with 20 damage soul arrows until he died
>>343694630
>When you have no idea how you're going to kill the fuck huge boss
>Then you find the sword and read its description
>And then you test it out
On a side note, the crystal lizards in that area are bullshit. I was never able to get my crescent scimitar up to +5. Also probably the single best place to farm souls, assuming you don't get wrecked.
>>343694630
I dislike Shrine of Storms from the perspective of being annoyed at enemy placements. So many bullshit difficult situations mainly because you can't move and they're coming or shooting from every angle.
It's a cool place but it still annoys me.
Final boss is tight as fuck though. Enjoyed the encounter even if not challenging
>>343694630
>Shrine of Storms
the tomb part with the stairs was shit
Gentlemen, we need to convince From(Sony) to re release DeS and DS. How can we do this?
>>343695383
Mass suicide
>>343694816
I did it too, Garl just stop fighting and goes into depression. There is no way to be happy with fight.
Did you try to kill Astrae at close range without killing Garl before ? It was my biggest challenge all "soulborne" game combined.
I recently finished it for the first time. the boss with the towel head was really something else, I ended up running alot of the game with the player that i got matched up with. im not much for online gaming but that warmed my heart in an odd way. great game!
I'm not a big fan of tower of latria because I feel like it's too long, but boletarian palace is my favourite level in the series by a long shot.
>>343692624
>Having to get through the game up to Anor Londo every character before the world opens up/fast travel becomes accessible gets really tiresome
Hah, for me it's the exact contrary. The process of making a new character is always exciting until I acquire the lordvessel and then I'm like, "why bother?"
Gonna throw my hat in the rating ring
>DaS > Bloodborne > DeS > DaS3 > Superman 64 > DaS2
I recently borrowed SotFS for ps4 from a friend after beating all of the other games. I stopped playing after the gargoyles boss cause I just lost interest in the game. Its probably already been said, but I fucking hated how they made rolling a skill. It felt pointless to roll after the first couple of bosses cause id always get hit mid roll, and it was more effective just to lock on and circle them and hit them from behind. Plus its fucking retarded how slow the estus is, and how you cant move while using it. That and how slow it heals your health back up. Ive heard good things about the DLC but it wasnt enough to keep me playing. Just my 2 cents.
>>343695178
>>343695346
Thief's Ring is your best friend for this.
>>343691794
>bait bullshit
It's not bait though. BB is better
>>343695703
It's really not, anon. But okay I respect your opinion :D
>>343695576
>more effective just to lock on and circle them and hit them from behind
Congratulations, you have just discovered the secret to mastering "combat" in DeS, DS 1, and DS 2. It's not as complicated as any of the fucking idiots on this board will try to tell you. Block and move to the side.
This fight was most stressful in my opinion when I was playing for the first time
>>343695974
please feel free to try that on fume knight for example. make a video. i'll wait
>>343695576
Rolling was too easy in DeS/DaS/BB/DaS3
DaS2 wanted to tie rolling to stats so that your player felt stronger as you leveled, getting to 96 agi (equivalent to DaS1/DeS) took like 10 levels? Besides nothing in the game required more than base ADP except for chariots wheel(an attack you shouldn't be hit by in the first place because of the alcoves)
Estus was slow in the first game too, you're probably use to BB or DaS3 where it was instant/almost instant. Using Estus should be punishable. Also never use lock on in a souls game, it's designed to get you killed.
>gargoyles
They gave you resins in front of the fog gate which lets you melt them as they come in, I don't understand how people had issue with them.
>>343695868
It's funny you never cared to explain why DaS is better when it has
>inferior combat
>inferior areas
>inferior bosses
Also the atmosphere of DaS is my least favorite. It feels a lot less coherent than DeS and BB, where the items, souls and such make sense from a universe perspective.
>>343696008
They're really hard if you fight them at the beginning, but I went back after getting through most of the game and beat them no problem. Although I'm sure NG+ they get 100x worse.
>>343693118
>First time in 3-1
>Proceed cautiously because I don't know what's waiting for me
>DING DING DING
>The fuck is this
>Prisonners scare the shit out of me when they attack from their cells
>Fuck you I'll kill you all
>Feel a little bit confident
>DING DING DING
>See the Mindflayes
>The fuck is this
>He slowly approach
>I'm gonna kill you fucker !
>Try to roll through his stun
>Get stunned
>Oh god no
>He is coming for my ass
>Oh please god no
>He grabs me and one shot me
>Fuck everything in this game
To this day I still consider The Tower of Latria as the best area out of all the Souls games.
The last time I felt like I accomplished something in a video game was three years ago when I beat DeS and the False King while blasting Robert Tepper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOXaPE6gklI
Also kicked the shit out of those two gargoyle bosses in the tower earlier that day and breezed through the swamp. It's amazing how Souls games can make you rage so hard you spit fire but once you buckle down, learn enemy strats and just practice iframes and parrying you can become a literal god at those games.
>>343696008
I was dreading fighting those fuckers again until I discovered Black Turpentine, cut through them like butter
>>343696227
You can beat literally any boss in the dark souls games by blocking and circling or using spammable magic. Neither of these count as amazing combat mechanics. Your point is invalid.
>>343696250
More weapons
Less linearity
more replayability
more content
better pvp (even though all souls pvp is ass)
better movement
better setting
better ost
better boss design (excluding boc)
better level design (excluding izalith and demon ruins of course)
I like how I can pick up DaS and go wherever the fuck I wanted. I hate how in BB i'm forced to do the same shit every time, without old hunters this game would be shitted on as hard as dark souls 2
>>343696526
again, do fume knight without rolling. still waiting. it will be invalid once i see you do it
>>343696232
>Estus was slow in the first game
>Never use lock on, designed to get you killed
Have you ever played a souls game besides bloodborne?
>>343685212
I've been playing it on and off for a few months now. The atmosphere and design is just amazing. I like how non hand holdy it is, but Im kind of wandering around a bit aimlessly. I'm good at fighting enemies and adapting to tactics, but I'm utter shit at the boss fighting. Struggling to progress because I'm killed almost immediately by the Capra demon, and seriously struggling against the 2 gargoyles. Im playing knight, just got elite knight set.
>>343696643
>I like how I can pick up DaS and go wherever the fuck I wanted
?????????
>>343696673
>you can't criticize this game without handicapping yourself like a retard
You can't say x souls game is bad unless you beat it without using the left analog stick :^)
>>343696759
BB
Start game -> Ioesfka -> Central Yharnam
DaS
Start game -> Firelink -> Blighttown
Start game -> Firelink -> Catacombs
Start game -> Firelink -> Darkroot
Start game -> Firelink -> Undead Burg
>>343696673
Never fought the fume knight, I don't like Dark Souls 2 enough to do anything but the bare minimum for that shit. And one boss doesn't invalidate literally every other boss in a series. I also had to do a bit of rolling against the smelter demon, doesn't make it a good boss fight or good combat.
>>343696805
oh no no, not with me, fuckface. leave the goalposts where they are. you claimed any boss is beatable without rolling. i said, show me. and you got nothing
>>343696643
>I like how I can pick up DaS and go wherever the fuck I wanted
That's not DeS.
>More weapons
You mean the same shit copypasted 10 times ?
>Less linearity
True but BB still has its shares of optional areas
>more replayability
Arguable. I have a lot more of playtime in BB than DaS
>more content
?
>better pvp
Opinion
>better movement
DaS' animations are sub DeS m8. Lag input everywhere everything feels slow
>better setting
Kek
>better ost
Top kek
>better boss design
Top fucking kek
>better level design
So you really have shit taste after all
>>343696715
Go lock on on Lud and Zallen, tell me how that works for you.
Go lock on King of Storms, tell me how that works for you
Go lock on Seath, O&S, and etc. Tell me how that works for you
Oh yeah, go lock on Tower knight too.
>>343697164
>So you really have shit taste after all
I'm not the one saying BB is best souls game though.
>>343697328
the world is more consistent in DaS. looking at level-to-level design, BB shits all over DaS
>>343697328
You gotta be 18 to post here m8
Why did they think Blighttown was a good idea? It literally drops to like 10fps there. It gave me a headache.
>>343695029
He wears the dark silver set.
>>343696673
not that anon.
I did Fume without rolling, I tanked everything with fire tower shield and baneful bird ring SL75
>>343697209
>I locked on to Seath just fine, same for Ornstein and Smough (I bet you didn't even try to keep them in a line so it's more one-on-one, AKA basic fighting tactics
>King of Storms requires specific weapon and different fighting, and whenever he actually attacked me I locked on and blocked just fine
>Never fought Lud and Zallen, no comment.
It's seriously effective in every single boss fight. Gaping dragon is one of the few time lock on was annoying, and only when I was specifically trying to cut off his tail.
>>343697525
The same people that though 5-2 was a good idea or the same people that thought The Gutter was a good idea or the same people that thought Nightmare Frontier was good
>>343695459
Fucking brilliant.
>>343697164
>That's not DeS.
Excuse me?
After tutorial you're forced to do 1-1 before going anywhere.
That isn't going anywhere.
Shit on DaS all you want, but at least don't be retarded doing so.
>>343697164
>Opinion
Also known as what everyone on this board has and the reason that no souls game is objectively the best? It's almost like all your disagreements are also
HOLY SHIT
opinions.
>>343697695
5-2 works fine though. Sure the fps drops there and there but overall it's much more playable than blighttown. Never noticed problems in nightmare frontier though
>>343697071
>Not the same poster
>Also never said that every boss was beatable without rolling, 95% of all bosses are beatable without rolling. The ones that need rolling are actually a little more fun, but combat is still shit because every other enemy can be shield blocked and strafed.
>>343697860
Wew you're forced to do ONE zone and then can access the whole world to suit your progression and your tastes, changing radically the way you can play based on the equipment you get, etc. Whereas in DaS sure you can go to the catacombs first but it requires you to know the game beforehand to not get fucked by strong respawning skeletons, which means that in practice you go straight to undead burg and follow from there. That's what most players did and continue to do
>>343697868
So what are you doing here if you dislike shitpo- debating ?
>>343697695
>It's a swamp/bog/general poison and disgust area
Why do game developers insist on doing this? Does anyone actually like these areas?
>>343697860
DaS is very closed off on top if it being a pain to go to where you want to go before you get LV.
DeS you is very open after you do the tutorials.
>>343698325
Forced to do one zone is the complete opposite of going anywhere.
Tutorial -> 1-1
That's all DeS has at the start
>Whereas in DaS sure you can go to the catacombs first but it requires you to know the game beforehand to not get fucked by strong respawning skeletons
This is also wrong.
Shit on DaS properly like it's poor end game, don't make bullshit reasons why x doesn't count.
>>343698596
>Very closed off
>Darkroot Garden, Undead Burg, Lower Undead Burg, Undead Parish, Valley of the Drakes, Old Londo Ruins, Blighttown, Ash Lake, Demon Ruins all accessible
>closed off
Stop posting.
After the tutorial you're locked into 1-1.
>>343698663
>I had to go to one area initially! WAH!
Literally every path is open in Demon Souls after you beat one short level area. Dark souls still has a whole section of the game (post-vessel) where you can finally go to the other half of the areas you couldn't initially.
>>343698805
tbf you can skip the tutorial
>>343698805
>Again with the "WAH! I had to do a specific area initially! WAH!" Even though literally everything else opens up right afterwards
When will neo-/v/ die?
>>343699114
Then you're forced to do 1:1
>>343699054
Post vessel having areas you couldn't accessed doesn't change that DaS has the most open areas at the start than any other soulsborne game.
Again make valid arguments against DaS, like it's shit PvP and shit second half, not "its not x because i said so"
It's a bit dated mechanics wise but the atmosphere and level design always pull me back to it.
>>343698805
What's available after the tutorial? Catacombs, Undead Burg, New Londo Ruins.
1-2, 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1
>>343699283
>At the start
>Your attention span is so fucking short you can't get through one mandatory level to unlock every single other thing at the beginning of the game
>>343698805
You forgot The Depths but yea
>>343699275
>>343699054
Ok so lets bend the rules for you DeS fags
You now have 1-2, 3-1, 4-1 and 5-1.
4 Areas after forced 1-1
Dark Souls has 9
>>343685212
Demon's Souls has something that was missing from all the other Souls games, except maybe for Bloodborne. Probably the whole novel feeling of it. Plus, the art style is still fucking phenomenal 7 years later. BTW:
Bloodborne > DaS1 > DeS > DaS3 > DaS2
Fuck that pre/post lordvessel nonsense, take the game as a whole.
Best song in the game here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3nckWeT-m0
>>343695027
Why does it look like an aborted fetus?
>>343699676
If I'm taking BB as a whole I'm dropping it below DaS 2. Base game was awful.
>>343698663
He's right though, yeah technically DaS has more paths available at the start but no new player is gonna be able to get through the Catacombs or New Londo or Blighttown on their first playthrough. And even in subsequent runs there's a lack of incentive to head to any of these areas first, the Catacoms only has the Gravelord sword and miracles which you can't use until later anyway, same case for the big ember in New Londo.
Meanwhile in DeS all the areas unlocked after 1-1 are perfectly doable by a first time player, and there's reasons to go to all of them, 1-2 has the Claymore and moon grass, 2-1 has the crushing axe and upgrade materials, 3-1 has the magic crown and spice, 4-1 has the crescent falchion and adjudicator shield, 5-1 has the blessed mace.
>>343699754
Because it is
BB > DaS > DeS > DS3 > DS2
Please don't respond if you didn't play DeS on release. If you didn't your opinion doesn't count.
>>343699626
There's a grand total of 2 progression-based locks in DeS. DaS has at very least 5, and this is assuming you've picked the horribly-implemented thief key to allow you to do this in the first place.
>>343699939
>>343697017
And? You will eventually go through everything anyway.
I never understood this reasoning, and I have 500+ hours in the first Dark Souls.
>>343701642
You realize that just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make it bait
>>343700893
I wouldn't take anyone's opinion of DaS2 unless they cleared a no death/no bonfire run + coc.
>>343698805
>Darkroot Garden
>Lower Undead Burg
>Undead Parish
>Ash Lake
>Demon Ruins
You have to go through other areas first to get to these, and the Valley is not a full level, it just connects and bunch of them together. Might as well bring up all the x-2 zones in DeS while we're at it, in which case DeS wins again.
>>343699626
You forgot 2-1.
>>343702403
Counting areas that connect would be equal to counting The Nexus not really x-2.
>>343702585
Nope, now you may as well be counting Firelink.
I remember blasting through the game in a single night back in 2014.
Meat Cleaver is too good, man.
>>343685212
Actually going to attempt my first ever playthrough... any tips to gain an early advantage?
>>343703162
Magic is OP
>>343703162
>any tips to gain an early advantage
Don't, the game isn't even that hard, don't ruin it for yourself by using OP shit
>>343703162
24 str
16 fth
pour the rest into vit, int, and magic.
>>343703423
Nice troll, I started my first playthrough and only boss magic was good for was armored spider. Got Kris blade, rat ring and magic ring and still do shot for damage, my int is 44
