>Halo 3 will ever be forgotten
Best Halo.
No one cares.
So have some Carolyn.
halo 2 was far better, retard
2 had an overall better campaign, but the Ark and the Covenant are the two best Halo levels ever.
>>343674193
H3 was an improved 2.
>tfw no more jenga
>tfw no more trash compactor
>tfw no more cops and robbers
>tfw no more fat kid,
>tfw no more halo race tracks
>tfw no more arby and the chief
>tfw machinima is a corporate husk of its former self
Take me back, /v/. Take me back.
The good times may be gone but not forgotten.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk
>>343673862
halo 1 and 3 best halos
halo 2 was cool at the time but pretty forgettable
>>343673862
Halo 2 was more memorable, and only gets hated because of the cliffhanger.
>space battles
>underwater infiltration mission
>scarab infiltration mition
>fighting brutes with himans and a dcarab supporting you
>the creepy dark flood level near the end
>the mission on a base next to a black hole that includes a boss fight, a spaceship fight, a flood spooky oart, a stealth part and you vutting up the entire base
More like halo 2 will never be forgoten.
it was pretty forgettable even at the time.
>>343675014
Atmosphere
>>343674639
They still make Jenga/trash compactor/race tracks for Halo 5 but none of the rest you mentioned. And I heard someone is working on Cops n Robbers.
>>343675513
Halo 2 gets hate?
The only hate I see towards any halo is 4, 5, and on /v/ there's some weird hatred towards Reach. I have no idea why.
>>343674639
>no more arby n the chief
Wasn't john working on season 8?
That's not ODST.
>the best game of a series of mediocre games
Grats?
I know I'm usually the odd man out with this but honestly Reach was my favorite Halo game. Probably because it was the only one I had friends to play with.
I also just really like Noble team a lot and I know the story gets a lot of hate because of the previous novel about Reach but I still found the characters of noble team and the more personal story of 6 to be more relatable.
Plus the art direction was the best in Reach.
I can't believe this game is almost 9 years old, I remember buying Crackdown just to play the Halo 3 Beta (and ending up spending the rest of the summer for 2007 playing Crackdown, Halo 2, Gears of War and Spider-Man 3), the hype for this and GTA 4 was unreal.
>tfw will never spend the fall and winter playing Halo 3 constantly again
>>343675513
>the part with linkin park
shit game get over yourself
>>343676025
For me it goes 3>Reach=2>ODST>1
They're all a lot of fun and it saddens me that Master Chief collection wasn't as good as it could have been.
>>343675876
Oh look, a tripfag
Fuck off
halo 1 has a largely shit single player and no online
halo 2 has an ok single player and had great online
halo 3 has an ok single player and great online
halo 1 has an abomination of a remaster.
halo 2 has a pretty good remaster.
halo 3 didn't need one, just an up-res.
i'd say it's split between 2 and 3 but 2 is more special to me.
>>343676119
it's breaking benjamin and even with that the game has the best score of all halos.
>>343676119
>halo 3 and 2 are a shit ton alike
>one is shit one is da best gaem evar
Protip anon: The only reason you, or anyone likes halo, is that they were told to by big papa microshit and they grew up with it.
Or they never played a good fps beforehand.
>>343676119
>memorable is now edgy
Ok kiddo, go play your stale game, what was it called again?
>>343675779
i never thought looking back i'd see ODST as the best game
it's real fucking good though, then again any Halo is great for co-op sessions on hardest settinghalo 3/odst for pc when? i really miss smoking weed and playing game modes like infection. actually having a fun time and shit, ain't no online games with that chill atmosphere anymore :(
>>343676025
reach had the best vehicle combat
that's all I care about.
>>343676204
>stop ruining my echo chamber =(
nah I'm going to stick around.
Halo is Garbo.
>>343676317
>the only reason you or anyone likes halo is because they've played it
whoa
>>343676380
>likes halo
>calls something else stale
lol
>>343674639
this. Jenga was my only reason to live.
going to be completely honest with my opinion since i've played all the halos and am currently playing 5.
2 was the best both multiplayer and story with 5 in the same league.
1 was fun and the introduction into the game series.
2 was the pinnacle in both multiplayer and story.
3 really was a slower version of halo i only had fun with it because of friends.
i didn't like odst it was meh good story though.
reach had to have been my most hated out of all of them when it came to both multiplayer and story.
reach was boring it had good customization though.
4's story was the best one but the multiplayer sucked badly. definitely the worst multiplayer with reach right behind it.
5 is awsome halo 2 is back and the game is back gold where it should've been and all the free content is awsome.
a lot of you halo 3 and reach babies are really missing out on a good game but that's for you to decide.
halo 6 is definitely going to be the best halo made they just need the game modes there on launch along with the forge.
>>343676525
....that isn't what I said at all?
>>343676440
>wow guys look how edgy and bave I am I'm shitting on a game people like
Back to le reddit you go
>>343676593
Leave immediately, tripfag.
>>343675708
Who cares? It's 2016 anon, nothing is sacred. He probably browses tumblr now.
>>343676437
there are tons on pc
>>343676119
breaking benjamin actually
>>343676260
Halo CE had online. And it comes right after 3 on my list.
Halo 3>CE>Halo 2>Halo Reach>Halo 2A>Halo 4>Halo 5
P.S. Breaking Benjamin rules.
>>343674334
>Halo 2
>better campaign
Only thing Halo 2 did well within the trilogy was multiplayer.
>>343676803
>watch current arby n chief episodes
>all of the are 40 minutes long, with panoramic views of fucking forge maps and calm music for the first 15 minutes
I appreciate that he's trying to make AnC more cinematic, but I came here to watch Chief call someone a faggot, not a fucking opera.
>>343673862
I couldn't agree more, best campaign, best features, and fun multiplayer. God I love this game.
Halo 2 Anniversary was a lot better than expected, they did a good job recreating the look and music of the game. My only major complaint is the Forerunner Keyship area in High Charity.
>>343676593
>>343676727
Do tripfags really go into threads about games they don't like to talk about how they don't like it? Can they get more pathetic?
>Used to be a time I was always on Xbox playing Halo 3
>Haven't played a 360 in over 4 years.
>ElDewrito is fun but just not the same
>No Cash to buy an Xbox 1 and don't want to buy it for MCC only
>Halo 3 nor the MCC will never be released on Windows because Microsoft hates good Ideas.
>>343676204
just filter every tripfag you see (given they aren't using it for a legitimate reason)
you can unhide the posts if they are actually getting replies, 95% of the time you won't be missing out on anything besides bitching though
have fun
>>343676817
name one decent chill multiplayer game on pc
there are a lot of games that should be chill and fun, but i tend to find games that have small playerbases where the players are either absolute beasts who play every day or shitters who just found out about it
>>343676025
reach was really good but i only prefer it to 3
>>343676260
halo 1 had no online
top kek m8
dunno if trolling or this stupid
>best score
debatable
>>343676317
>grew up playing halo
>never played a good fps beforehand
implying
>>343676380
>stale game
ur mom
stay mad casuals, this isnt even my main
>>343677291
no whats pathetic is that particular tripfag has been doing that for years.
just ban him and boco, is it that fucking hard really, if its someone who calls redwood a nigger they'll literally ctrl+f the ip range of that person in every thread but lord forbid they actually cut out actual cancers on this site.
Can we talk about how great the art direction is in Halo 3? The Forerunner architecture is so well done.
>>343676025
My autism was too strong for me to enjoy Reach's single player as much as I could because of Noble being SIII except for Jorge, and how the book gave a better version of how Reach fell.
I like how the book painted Reach as the second strongest fortification the UNSC had, and nothing they had seen from the Covenant was strong enough to take it, and then the Covenant shows up with the largest fleet they've ever assembled and zerg-rushed the planet and conquered it in like a week.
>>343676058
crackdown was a surprisingly fun game to play, was worried I was wasting 60 bucks just for the beta, but definitely got my money's worth
>>343676803
It's still full of 4chan memes
>>343673862
Coincidentally Unforgotten is my favorite OST piece from the series.
That said.
>Best Campaign
2
>Best community
3
>Best multiplayer features
Reach
>Best atmosphere
ODST
>Best single player campaign
5
>Most well rounded in all aspects
1
>Best graphics
4
>>343677126
Than the Bytes series is for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up72qiSiGxk&ab_channel=JonCJG
>>343677294
Same here, but I stayed away from halo online because I heard it was disappointing.
The one reason I bought an Xbox was after playing Combat Evolved at a friend's house, so I wouldn't feel that weird buying an xbone just to play halo again.
>>343676727
Fuck off cripple
>>343675513
>only gets hated because of the cliffhanger
It was completely gutted and a totally different game to what they'd shown at E3. /v/ doesn't remember this because they were all still in grade school when halo 2 came out.
>>343676440
>tfw you are such a miserable person that you would rather go to a thread about a game you dislike and cry about it instead of going to a thread about a game you like
>>343677126
>Arby N Teh Chief became Matchmaking Season 2
Son of a fucking bitch.
>>343677667
I always fucking loved the Ringworlds, such a comfy vibe to them.
Silent Cartagropher is still the best damn area of any game in my book.
>>343677667
The pro structures made the maps extremely atmospheric and professional to play on. Halo 3 had amazing maps.
>>343674639
>Those nights when my parents were out at a wedding and I fucking completed the campaign and fucked around on Forge for almost 48 hours
Can I not go back?
>>343678727
I still haven't got over the false advertisement. All Bungie kept showing was the E3 2003 Earth demo level and saying "Earth will Never be the Same" over and over again and showing a full scale invasion. Then I played the game and none of that was in the game. All I got was a little fight on Earth, alien political nonsense, retrieving the Index (again), and a terrible boss fight coupled with a bad cliff hanger ending.
>>343678029
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B-X5Hrc0dRU
>>343679117
>117
Chief?
Anyone else remember this montage? Best montage I've ever seen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BjuyYzbmU6w
Is Halo 5 good? I watched a ton of videos and the armor abilities and forge looks like fun. I've already watched campaign so I know its shit.
Seriously what were they thinking with that chief vs locke fight.
>>343673862
Never Forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjKWKN6jaIOne of my favorite menu themes of all time.
>>343674426
>>>343674193
>H3 was an improved 2.
True.
Are halo games enjoyable just for the campaigns?
>>343681362
It's fun. It's free with gold why don't you just try it?
Nothing will ever beat H3 but Halo is still fun as it moves forward.
>>343682572
Well I don't have an xbone. So its a 400 dollar investment in 343's bullshit. I want to wait but I've heard bad things about the community size already.
>>343682406
1-3,ODST and Reach have enjoyable story's
4's meh and 5 is horrible.
>>343681362
Halo 5 MP wise is the best Halo since 3, SP wise it's the worst.
>>343681362
H5's forge is literally the best official player content creator ever released.
Or at least on consoles.
The base gameplay is also actually very good.
Sadly, the community is kinda gutted.
I blame xbox live parties and various other things.
>>343681362
Multiplayer is the best it's been since halo 3, Loadouts are restricted to their own playlist now so no more of that bullshit.
Warzone is actually pretty fun, despite being a casual containment gamemode.
>>343673862
it had a nice tagline.
>>343681362
Yeah its great.
>>343682406
No they are enjoyable with other features as well such as Multiplayer, Forge, and customization. I personally loved the Halo Trilogy campaigns, liked some levels in Halo 4 and at least liked the level designs of Halo 5. So you don't just have to like the campaigns to enjoy the games.
>>343682406
Yeah they're all fun just for campaign. Just the stories are only gold for the Bungie Halo's.
>>343682852
They don't share the community numbers but I get in games almost instantly. Tons of people play still just nor H3 numbers of 1 million players. And Xbox Ones's are cheap now, I saw one the other day for $270 new with 3 games and an extra controller.
>>343674639
>no more duck hunt
>>343683662
What I mean is, that I'd just be playing the campaigns of the original 2 and maybe the 360 games.
>>343674193
this, halo 2 was far better and if you actually played halo 2 and then played halo 3 when it came out it played and felt like absolute shit.
>>343683819
You will probably like the Halos 1 & 2 on the Xbox and Halo 3 on the 360, ODST-4 for the 360 are debatable.
>>343683819
Of course, really fun. Don't forget Halo 1 Anniversary. Halo 3: ODSTs campaign is one of the best campaigns I've ever played.
http://halomeDOTnu/
It's not much, but until 3 comes to pc it's something.
>>343684398
thank you anon
>>343683706
Also, since Halo 6 is coming out for XB1, there's no reason to get a Scorpio. It will just have better textures on Scorpio.
>>343685857
We don't even know anything about scorpio
>>343686448
You didn't see the trailer? All I know is the graphics will be better but how game's run will probably be the same. You can't have Halo 6 running on different fps's on the same server.
>>343674426
H3 was a worse version of 2.
>>343683706
>>343683625
>>343683363
>>343683319
>>343683120
>>343682572
Well target has deal for 280 on the MCC bundle so I guess I'll get that
>You will never spend entire nights playing Multiplayer with your friends again
>You will never come home from school and spend entire weekends building maps in forge
Until this thread it never came to me how much I miss the old Halo/CoD games
>Inb4 CoD
>>343688913
Fuck :(
>>343688174
Pic related? This one has the glossy finish, there's a newer model with matte finish on top for the same price here. MCC can be bought pretty cheap on disc now so it doesn't really matter if it comes with it. And just to let you know there will be better deals than even this like the one I spoke about earlier. Here's the link:
http://t.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=87690616&gclid=COmL3vSz2M0CFUQehgod_-ACog
>>343689759
Forgot pic
>>343673862
Halo series was always very mediocre but I enjoyed the first.
>>343678029
>>Best single player campaign
>5
kill yourself immediately
>>343689878
But if its the 1tb MCC bundle that's good cause its the new model.
>>343687868
>Same weapons as 2 but improved
>Added AR
>Added equipment
>Gigantic leap in graphics
Play on Midship H3 and than tell me the game isn't a massively improved 2. Also, Bungie has a record in improving weapons as they go along with their games. The Halo 3 pistol was terribly weak, in Reach they made it powerful.
>>343679187
Then they gutted the gunplay...
>>343691224
Yup I remember this too.
Halo 5 is the best, but whatever.
>implying the halo 3 campaign was good
>>343691224
I never played Halo 1 on original xbox, only on mac, but then when I placed Halo 1 anniversary on my 360 it felt really powerful , probably cause of the controller, and then when I played it on one, even more powerful.
>>343675513
When was there a black hole in Halo 2?
>>343691039
>weapons improved
Yeah, the BR that can't shoot straight is a great improvement. Not sure what you even mean by improved, given your pistol argument at the bottom. Are you referring to the weapon's power or how they function within the sandbox?
If you're referring to power, then no. Some weapons did get a boost, like the shotgun and SMG, but others got less powerful, like the BR, sniper, rockets, sword, and overshield.
If you're referring to function, I still think you're wrong. All weapons are slower and clunkier compared to their H2 counterparts. Literally every single weapon. The entire game is at a snail's pace because of how the weapons operate and the retardedly slow movement speed.
>Added AR
Okay?
>Added equipment
The absolute worst part of H3 and the beginning of the end of the Halo series. How was this a good thing? Did you enjoy every fight coming to a halt because of some nonsense bubble shield or regenerator? Why would you like that?
>Gigantic leap in graphics
This is the only point I think you have. Excluding the human faces, H3 is a gorgeous game, even to this day.
>Play on Midship H3 and than tell me the game isn't a massively improved 2.
It's not. It's slower paced.
>Bungie has a record in improving weapons as they go along with their games. The Halo 3 pistol was terribly weak, in Reach they made it powerful.
I can't believe you're using this argument *with the fucking pistol* when the Halo: CE pistol exists.
H3 is an insanely overrated game and I'll never understand how people defend its gameplay, especially when faster, smoother games in the franchise exist, like CE, 2, and 5.
>>343675014
muh boi Marty O'Donnell
Greatest current North American composer hands down.
Nigga knew how to make you feel everything in his music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOJ13sw8o4
>>343674639
>>343675662
>>343676628
>>343679117
I want Halo 3 babies to leave.
>>343683732
>implying you can't doa ll that in MCC
>implying Halo 5's forge can't do that and a bunch of other shit that would be impossible in every other halo game's forge
pic related
>>343677697
Technically, the novel and the game are both canon and there are explainations for the discrepancies
>>343681362
It has the best Mp the series has had in a long time, and without a doubt the best forge, but the SP is a let down and it lacks local play.
I'd say try it out since it's free for gold memebers right now. If you don't think it's worth a purchase in the end due to the meh SP, it's forge and customs are coming to PC for free anyways later this year so you can just wait for that.
>>343682406
>>343683819
I'd say so, but the MP's are equally important and the fact every halo game has so many ways to play it is part of why people like them
I will note though that CE's campaign can get pretty tedious at times due to it's age and the technical limits it had, which forced it to reuse a lot of level geometry and a relative lack of variety in weapons and enemy types to later games in the series.
Ideally, you'd play them all on MCC since it's that's 1080p/60fps and CE and 1 have the remasters included, but if you can't playing them on their original console works, or the 360 version of the CE remaster.
Try to avoid playing Halo 2 on 360 though, the backwards compatibility for it has some image ghosting issues
.
>>343679187
It's sad how often people forget this but shit on 343 for hunt the truth and h5's SP. Halo has always had misleading or less then relevant marketing campaigns and ARGs.m
>>343693725
I would like to hear the explanations, because I do like parts of the months long struggle the game portrays, but I remember the UNSC getting steamrolled in the book
>>343692228
i don't think there actually was ever a black hole shown in the halo series, or put anywhere near a focal point of the game
>>343693725
1 and 2 have good PC ports, right? I have an original Xbox regardless.
>>343674426
3 was a casualized 2 you mean
>>343694107
1's PC port is fine. 2's PC port was for vista and used GFWL, and since GFWL is down, some of the functionality is now messed up.
If you just wanna play the campaigns, I think 2's PC port would be fine provided you can get it running on your machine (it runs on my w7 laptop fine), I don't think there are any port specific bugs that are huge issues, but there might be.
The one things I do know the vista port messes up is it removes some of the fun bugs the xbox version has, like superbouncing.
>>343693918
Read Halsey's Journal and the Data Drops, combined they explain pretty much everything, and the explanations are for the most part pretty reasonable.
The one that I think is pushing it is actually the discrpency you mentioned: in the book, reach fell in less then a day, in the game, it took around 3 weeks. The explaination for that is most of the events in the game involved a scouting fleet and took place before the invasion in the book happened, and ONI somehow kept the fighting under wraps till the main fleet arrived, as described in the novel.
I don't know about you, but not even ONI could hide that. Personally, I think they should have handwaved it with the crystal from first strike that bent time to allow MC to get back from the Halo ring 3 weeks early and said it did it.
>>343692064
>>343691656
Elites had the same damage threshold has players on normal, the additional difficulty added an OS bar. In CE you were fully capable of killing any enemy with a magazine if they had full OS. Then for some reason this shit was dropped in 2 and TTK increased by a wide margin.
Sure it made the game more pickup and play functional, but it hurt the skill ceiling and campaign in turn. If it wasn't for its online multiplayer the game would have tanked pretty hard.
Also the textures looked like such ass outside of a standard def tv.
>>343694880
CE is great and it keeps getting better, 2 had a throw away community which is why no one has re-engineered anything with it.
Ill never forget how disapointed i was finishing 3 in an afternoon
>>343695283
That actually looks pretty slick, is that mods or something to do with Anniversary?
Would like to see some comparison shots
>>343695108
Yup if Halo 2 didn't have online mp, that would have been the end of Halo there. With Halo 3 Bungie had to look at what they did right in CE to fix everything they did wrong in Halo 2's campaign. That's why Halo CE and Halo 3 have the best campaigns to me compared to the rest.
>>343695535
>stay up a full night with friend completing halo 3 on legendary
it's how it's meant to be played
>>343695924
>full night
You would be finished by 3 am and have nothing to do but suck each others dicks
>>343696034
gee someone like you should probably take up competetive gaming, you sound like quite the "hardcore player" :)
why are you here shitting up threads instead of honing your impeccable skills, anon?
>>343696390
The game ia ahort as fuck retard even in the highest difficult there is barely 5 hours there unless you are going for full completion all skulls
>>343695283
The reason CE still has an active modding scene on PC then 2 has a hell of a lot more to do with the GFWL shit and the fact it didn't have as robust modding tools, not because 2 is the worse game
>>343695808
The stuff in his pictures are mods, not the official remaster. Look up SPV3 and Opensauce; in particular. Halomaps.org is where most CE modders do stuff.
>>343695908
>>343695108
I'd actually say CE has my least favorite campaign in the whole series. It was fantastic when it came out but the relative lack of variety and reused level stuff really has made it repetitive and tedious to go back to, which isn't helped by the fact it also has the most barebones story.
2 on the other hand has my favorite campaign, It has the most missions, and most of the missions are good to great, and it has 3 of the best missions in the franchise, as well as some of the coolest environments.
A lot of the arbiter missions are frustrating, but i'd argue they are only as bad as CE's entire campaign is on average, and they suffer due to the same design issues CE's missions did.
>>343696689
You' should play CS:GO or something, you sound like you're really good at videogames
>>343696878
I never claimed to be really good im literally sying the game is ungodly short
>>343674639
>you will never laugh at a machinima as hard as you did at the horchata scene in matchmaking
why are we still here
Hehehe this thread has 117 replies.
>>343692818
>lol
>>343696743
Halo 2 had the worst single player campaign in the original trilogy.
>Too many cut levels
>Terrible Arbiter levels that dragged the experience down
>Chief's best missions were no where near as good as CE's best missions
>Humanizing the Covenant
>Alien political nonsense
>Literally redoing what you already did in CE
>Terrible boss fights
>Linear scripted levels
>Levels split in two to try to give the illusion that the campaign was long
>False Advertisement about an invasion that never happens
>One of the worst endings in gaming history
>Worst weapon and vehicle sandbox in trilogy
>Damaged sponge Brutes
>Broken Flood
>Broken difficulty settings
>>343692818
All the things you listed aren't about H3 not being an improved H2. Only thing that might suggest that is your BR comment, and even then it just required more skill to use. Clunkier to you most likely means feels heavier because I've played BF and that's clunky, not Halo 3. Slower movement doesn't mean the game isn't an improved H2, I didn't even notice it perhaps it just seemed that way to you. Even if it is, made it more fun, as well as higher jumping. Game just feels better.
>>343674639
When does the ride end?
>>343673862
Wow. A noobed up Halo 2. What a great game
>probably another 3 years at least until Halo 3 works on Xenia
Just fuck my life completely up
>>343698401
when the media industry as a whole stops sucking dick for money
could be a little while
>>343697156
Hell yeah.
>>343678029
>Best single player campaign
5
I swear to god some of the people on this website are actually on the autistic spectrum.
I know its the wrong place to ask, but if anyone in here plays OSRS can I borrow a darkbow or even better a Blowpipe to kill glough with?
I can give you some amount of collateral while I'm holding it, but obviously not the full price or I'd just go buy it myself.
Halo 1 has the best single player campaign. The later Halo games devolved further into further into generic space-flavoured MMS (modern military shooter) territory.
>>343695535
It wasn't that short though? Pretty average FPS length I find, some levels could easily take an hour or more on Legendary. Been a long time since I last played it though.
>>343698278
>Too many cut levels
Something that's not there doesn't make what is there any worse.
>Terrible Arbiter levels that dragged the experience down
The bad arbiter missions are as good as all of CE's missions are in general on average. "The arbiter" is the same sort of repeating cooridor heavy, forerunner maze shit a ton of levels in CE are.
>Chief's best missions were no where near as good as CE's best missions
I absolutely disagree. The only missions in CE that are on par with 2 or 3's missions are the silent cartographer and assault on the control room, and even they suffer from most of the issues CE in gen era.
>Humanizing the Covenant
>Alien political nonsense
And i'm going to stop reading there. partially because getting mad the story and lore actually got some complexity is the dumbest shit ever and I really don't give a shit about anything else you say now, but also because the covenant was humanized as early as The Flood, the novelization of CE, and bungie always had worked out the interior structure of the covenant and how they worked.
>>343699614
CE was the most generic halo game for the time it came out though. At the time, that sort of setting was common, with doom, marathon, UT, quake, and so on all being popular.
By the time Halo 2 and especially all the later games came out, sci fi shooters were basically not a thing anymore.
>Halo 1 has the best single player campaign
When was the last time you actually played all the campaigns in the series?
>>343693725
>>implying Halo 5's forge can't do that and a bunch of other shit that would be impossible in every other halo game's forge
One of my favourite parts of Halo 3's forge was how much was done through jury rigging.
>>343677126
watch Bytes breh
>>343699885
Very recently actually. Halo CE easily has the best atmosphere and captures the feeling of exploring mysterious, ancient alien constructs the best. Halo 2 & 3's stories became less about that and more about the covenant and battle on Earth.
Halo 4 & 5 well I don't even need to say anything about that, they're non-canon anyway.
>>343699651
Actually the cut missions all sounded far better than anything we got from Halo 2's sp. In the cut Covenant Ship mission you explored that Assault Carrier Chief blew up in the game's first official mission. You would run into Miranda and her ODSTs and later you would jack a Wraith and use it's plasma mortars to destroy the shops core. You would then free fall in-game to your Frigate to take the fight to Earth. All of Arby's missions were worse than CE's worst missions. The first half of Halo CE is better than Halo 2's entirety. Clearly you didn't start Halo with CE, when it came to campaign Halo 2 was a significant downgrade from Halo CE. The game also had nasty pop in textures.
>>343676703
Your opinion on Halo 4 is very different from mine. I think 343 ruined the story of Halo with H4.
The forerunner lore was retconned to make them huge assholes and altered the reason why they provided stewardship to the other races of the universe (some pompous doctrine vs out of desperation to help sentient beings withstand the Flood). John's story was a big contradiction: they tried to humanize him, but then turned around and had that surreal cutscene with the Librarian where she made him "more than human" or whatever kind of gene manipulation was going on there. The spartans were absolutely obnoxious, from the dudebro Majestic Team to Sarah "Eggheads" Palmer. I think the story itself is way behind Combat Evolved and ODDT and way behind Halo 2. Basically, Didact wants to conquer humanity. The End. Just like the flood in H3.
Meanwhile, the multiplayer made the DMR and BR feel distinct (5 shot with aim disruption vs 4 shot), the forerunner weapons were fun, the thruster pack was so cool that they gave it to everyone in H5, there was tons of custimization (even though the aesthetic is shit compared to Reach) and it was unlocked by completing challenges rather than just playing (compared to credits in Reach), and the map packs and new game modes were great (regicide, extraction, revamped oddball and flood).
>>343700959
343 are clueless, mainly because they were essentially just contracted to shit out more Halo games at Microsoft's behest and keep the Shitbox on life support.
343 are actually a talented studio with some excellent programmers and art staff, but they were never meant to write in the Halo universe. Everything they write can be easily disregarded as fan-fiction however, because it basically is.
>>343693535
Jeremy Soule takes it
>>343700768
Oh, no, I agree the cut missions sound fucking amazing, my point is just, you can't judge a game and mark it down for not having something it doesn't have, you can only criticize it for what it does have or does do wrong, if that makes sense.
>All of Arby's missions were worse than CE's worst missions. The first half of Halo CE is better than Halo 2's entirety.
Again, I really, really disagree
>Clearly you didn't start Halo with CE
I started the series with CE's multiplayer playing at a friends house. I then read a few of the novels and bought an xbox and Halo 2 when that came out. I never played the campaign for CE untill like 2006 due to not being able to get my own copy of it till then due to reasons.
I'm sure the fact I knew about the flood ahead of time made my impressions of it less favorable then if had gone in blind, but even accounting for that and putting my nostalgia for halo 2 in check, I just don't like how reptitive and tedious a lot of CE is and the lack of variety it has.
Like, the silent cartographer is one of the best missions in the franchise, but even if pretty clearly suffers from the flaws of CE's design philopophy in general: Mostly empty, wide open outdoor environments, repetitive, copy pasted interior coordiors and mazes, not a lot of detail in decroative objects or other stuff like that in the missions, very few enemy types, and not much weapon variety overall or on a level by level basis.
>>343674639
You guys will never believe me but I a made made a very similar trash compactor about 2 months before everyone got the version that circulated.
My map actually played better than the one everyone else had.
>>343700959
>>343701730
>>343700369
Halo 4's story is shit due to it mishandling john and cortana's personalities, how rampancy works, and having needless retcons. The didact's behavior is a lot more interesting if you've read the forerunner novels.
343's main problem, lore wise, is they are rushing the state of the universe: Merely 6 years after the end of the human covenant war, humanity has bounced back and is top dog. MC is already found and back. Didact returns and the UNSC deals with him quickly. Jul's reformed covenant is dealt with quickly. Cortana comes back and now the created is a new threat, etc.
Having all that shit happen so fast pushes the suspension of disbelief.
Going "it's just all non canon fanfiction" is obnoxious and childish as fuck, though, because it ignores that 343 has done some things right, and actually have done a lot more good then they have bad. To keep it to the lore, though: Most of the novels they've made have been really good.
Evolutions, the forerunner books, BC, LL, HitD, SoI, and ST are all great to fantastic. NB, Glasslands, and tTW are decent with a few flaws, sbut could be better. The only really bad novel they've put out is mortal dictatat.
I'd say 343's novels are consistently at a higher level of quality then the bungie era ones. For bungie, tFoR,.GoO, and CH are all great to fantastic, but tF and tCP are both really meh, and FSis just good but not great.
>The forerunner lore was retconned
I don't think you know what "retcon" means. We knew fucking nothing about how the foreunner's cililization worked prior to the forerunner books. Explaining something that was never explained isn't a retcon.
>that surreal cutscene with the Librarian where she made him "more than human"
The only thing that happened in that scene was she acvitated an immunity to the composer that she had planted in humanity's genepool. That's it. He's not a choosen one or anything. I can explain this more if you want.
Anybody wanna help me im struggiling to remember the name of a machinima series for halo 3, all I remember is that it had a bunch of characters, one only played music through his helmet, they had a black dude and at one episode they had a musical number singing tje goo goo dolls
>>343684015
I'm playing both each day and 3 is better
It's just a polished 2
>>343703365
Not any of those guys but Reach is literally the only Halo I ignore and treat it as though it's non-canon fanfiction because that what it felt like. While 343 made some questionable decisions with Halos 4 & 5, they haven't really did anything to fuck over canon like Reach did. I still don't see where Reach fits in to the lore since it contradicts all of Bungie era books and mainline Bungie games. Bungie just stopped giving a shit.
>>343703365
>we knew nothing about the forerunner civilisation
Uhh...
>>343704310
see the second half of
>>343694880
Pretty much every inconsistency in reach with the novel has an explanation.
>>343704639
We didn't. All we knew prior to the forerunner novels was that they had super advanced tech, built the Halo array as a last ditch effort to beat the flood, and the covenant worshiped them. The Halo 3 terminals gave us a little insight, but it was still basically nothing.
Tell me a single thing the Forerunner novels have in them that directly contradicts something specified earlier in the franchise that isn't just stuff revealed due to additional context.
>>343704926
It was heavily implied they were human, Heavily..
All forerunner important locations were seemingly in the thicket of human territory, with the fallout shelter itself being earth. Only humans could activate the rings and the devices the covenant used that they thought would find the rings just kept bringing them to humans.
>>343704926
So does Halsey's Journal and the Data Drops explain why
>Brutes are wearing Power Armor when they lost those armors because of their failures on Harvest
>Elites armor is over pronounced with helmets covering their face, when Halo 3 stated that the Prophets only wanted Elites to wear the regular types of Combat Harnesses from Halos 1-3
>UNSC and Covenant tech are more advanced then they are in Halos 1-3
>Reach has weapons and vehecles that show up later in the series
>Noble Team have full armor customization
>How the Covenant found Reach when it was stated they put a tracker on Jacob Keyes's ship
>Where Jun went off to since he wasn't at Castle Base
>How the Pillar of Autumn had enough time to pick up copy Cortana after it's space fight
>How Cortana found Halo when she used the Forerunner artifact Chief and Blue Team found on Sigma Octanus IV
>>343674639
>trash compactor
dont hurt me like this
>>343706034
>It was heavily implied they were human, Heavily..
Until Halo 3
>>343676703
Halo 5's only saving grace is multiplayer. The campaign sucks so much dick it isn't even funny. It isn't fun, it shits all over the lore, it isn't what anyone expected, or wanted and they tried to squeeze too much BS into the number of missions they had.
>>343707023
>It isn't fun, it shits all over the lore
Not true
The missions are good, the story isn't. But it doesn't contradict anything in the lore
>>343675703
I will tell you why
The game was BLURRY. LITERALLY BLURRY. Visually it was worse than Halo CE. Horrible horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKU23DjP7IY
25 minutes in Forge Windows
>>343706034
>>It was heavily implied they were human, Heavily..
The Halo 3 terminals pretty explicitly deconfirmed that, though. In terminal 4, the Librarian states:
>Did I tell you? I built a garden.
>The earth is so rich. A seed fallsand a tree sprouts or a flowerblooms. There's so much... potential.
>We knew this was a special placebecause of them, but unless you've been here, you can't know.
We know she was talking about Earth, and there's really nothing else to interpret "them" as but humanity. She refers to what we can only assume as humanity as unique and special in other terminals too.
If bungie intended forerunners to be ancient humans by the time halo 3 came out, then why would the Librarian act like humanity is some special, distinct species?
>>343706628
The vast majority of the stuff you are talking about aren't even inconsistencies. I'm not going to go point by point, but as an example, complaining that UNSC and covenant have more advanced tech then in 1-3 is stupid. That's like complaining that the Spartan laser was a thing in 3 or the BR in 2, but not in CE. Just because you don't see something in one game doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Anyways, no weapons or armor in reach tech wise is beyond what was established as possbile for either faction.
Off the top of my head, here's what the data drops and jounrla explains:
>How Cortana was with halsey in Sword base, while also with John in his MK suit
>How the PoA showed up in H:R on the planets surface while still being at the places the book describes it at
>the fact Halsey saw spartans that weren't hers in H:R before finding the details of the S3 project
>Why the battle for reach lasted longer in the game
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>>343707348
this
The story is still balls but there's no retcons or inconsistencies.
>>343699228
>I swear to god some of the people on this website are actually on the autistic spectrum.
As someone who admittedly is, don't throw our likes in with that fucking fag. We can be pretty bad but I refuse to believe we can be THAT bad.
Best campaign is either two, three or reach. Can't decide.
>>343707843
I don't like the art style because it's blurry, I hate it because it's overly gritty, all the Forerunner stuff is made of stone, and there's no shadows anywhere.
>>343708617
them going way too hard on HOLY SHIT NORMALMAPS makes it look strange as well
the remake looks great though
>>343708834
The remake looks better, but I still hate how they pretty much changed how everything looks, and how Forerunner architecture is made of stone.
>>343708070
>ignoring glaring lore flaws in the mess that was Bungie's Reach
Like a Reach fan. Why do Reach fans try so hard to defend that canon breaking mess of a game. As a Metroid fan I don't have to deal with people trying to defend Other M's canon breaks but with Reach, Reach fans try their hardest to defend that games canon breaks. Is it because that garbage was made by Bungie?
>>343704926
It's pretty much impossible for that to be true.
For example, the Pillar of Autumn took part in the space fight and was never on the ground in the books.
>>343692818
9 years later you MLG wannabe kiddies still make me lol
>>343709389
>Is it because that garbage was made by Bungie?
Yes, and they hate 343's improvements made in the patch.
>>343674639
>no more
You can play improved versions of all of those game modes on Halo 5 right now.
>>343710737
Reach fans are the ones that hurt the Halo community.
>>343711038
3 fans hurt it more.
>>343709389
Except they aren't canon breaks if there's an explanation for it. Stop being retarded. You aren't even argueing that the explanations suck or are stupid, you are just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "NO NUH UH"
>>343710124
The data drops specify that the PoA was equipped with boosters that you see it have in game prior to the planned start of Operation: RED FLAG, as described in the novel. This allowed it to dive down and pick up the fragment of cortana on the ground during some of the time that john was in cyro in the novel where there was a gap of time for it to happen.
>>343711241
Nah, when Bungie patched Halo 3, they patched the entire game. Due to Reachfags in Reach, 343 didn't want to alienate that trash and made separate playlists for Reach's patch's. So it felt like we had several different games in one.
>>343711546
Look, all of that shit should have been in the game to begin with. Why the hell do I need to read a fucking Journal to try to understand that mess of a game? Also I find it funny that 343 tried to fix Bungie's mistake because Bungie no longer cared.
>>343702439
dude if you didnt play ce campaign till 2006 you cant say 2 has a better campaign. you are very wrong. even if ce has a few reused levels, they have way better design then 2.
bungie admited that 2 campaign sucked and they wanted 3 to be as good as 1 during an interview in 2006
>>343712174
This is all true.
>>343691737
Terrible bait
>>343676593
Is that fucking yoyorast island? That was the best map
>>343677667
Shame this map was garbage
>tfw Dewrito has 80-90 people on at any given time
I overlook the flaws because it's honestly the most fun I've had on PC and Halo since 3
>>343712138
>Why the hell do I need to read a fucking Journal to try to understand that mess of a game?
You don't. Reach's plot is just as self standing as CE's was. Why aren'y you bitching that you had to read tfor to know what the covenant was or who the spartans were?
But you are whining about how the game contradicts with a side book to begin with. You can't read an extra side book to CE, and then play another game, and bitch that it doesn't match and you shouldn't have to read a side book to explain the differences when the entire fucking complaint stems from you reading a side book to begin with.
>>343712174
>>343712372
>dude if you didnt play ce campaign till 2006 you cant say 2 has a better campaign
Did the game's campaign change or something in those 5 years? Of course not, so yes, I can say it. CE may have had the better campaign relative to the time the game game out, but independent of that, I enjoyed 2's campaign way more, and still do.
I don't give games extra credit for being old. If something is better then something else, then it's better, end of story.
>>343691039
Actually the H3 pistol was really strong. It's just that it was kind of hard to use and it was best dual wielding it. Dual wielding overall didn't work out for the series because they needed to make dual wielding feel like a true alternative to simply using your BR + nades + melee. They should have at least allowed you to melee while dual wielding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh35q9gbl6I
>>343714402
It fired so slow and had so much spread that it really wasn't ever worth using.
>>343714064
>Reach self standing like CE
>Halo 2 campaign better than CE
Just stop, first you tell me to read the Journal for the contradictions and now you're telling me the game can stand on its own. Also you have no say in CE's campaign when it wasn't the first one you played. I don't have any nostalgia for Halo CE but even I know its campaign was superior to 2's. I never forgotten how much I was disappointed when I finished Halo 2's campaign back in 04.
>>343714840
Yeah man agreed.
Funny thing is dual wielding was a lot stronger during the H3 beta. Beta had a lot of differences in the power of the guns from the release game. Spikers and Carbine were also a lot better in the beta.
Like I said with Dual Wielding though. It took a lot of time to set it up and the results weren't as optimal as they should have been. It needed to feel like a good alternative but it just didn't work out that way for the main game.
>>343693725
>replying to everyone
kill yourself autist
>>343715357
>Just stop, first you tell me to read the Journal for the contradictions and now you're telling me the game can stand on its own.
Can stand on it's own =/= is free of contradictions with other material on it's own. What Im meant by that is it doesn''t rely on any other material for it's story indepdently to make sense which is true. If you've never played a halo game, you can still go into reach and understand that the covenant wants humanity dead, etc.
That's what I meant by stands on it's own. If you read the books, though, and have that context of the lore, then yeah, you need to read an additional one to resolve the discrepancies, but I don't think that's an issue, because if you had an issue with reading books then you wouldn't know that there was an issue to begin with.
> Also you have no say in CE's campaign when it wasn't the first one you played.
Why the fuck should you have to play CE first in order to have an opinion on the quality of it's campaign? if you like CE's better, fine, but don't give me this shit about how I don't have a right to have an opinion because I never played it first.
Also, if you have to have played it first to like it the best, maybe that's because you need to have nostalgia for it to like it the most.
>b-but you knew about the flood
Yeah, and I also knew about playing as the arbiter ahead of time, and I still like 2's campaign. Also, i'm not even talking about the story, I only mean the missions. If you factor in the story too then 2's is even more ahead.
> I never forgotten how much I was disappointed when I finished Halo 2's campaign back in 04.
What disappointed you about it, in particular?
I've explained a dozen times what it is I dislike about CE's campaign. You haven't said what it is you dislke about 2's. So why don't you do that
>>343716627
Cry more, I replied to the posts I wanted to.
>>343710840
yeah but now i have no friends
>>343716969
autism
>>343716969
I already stated my dislikes for the campaign in a post earlier >>343698278
Still I read the books but since I was on the fence about Reach since the VGA reveal, I wasn't planning on buying the limited or Legendary editions for that game. Plus Bungie's Journal or 343's Data Drops doesn't explain how the Pillar of Autumn had enough time to participate in a space battle, pick Chief and pick up clone Cortana at the same time.
>>343716969
2's campaign enemies were unfun bullet sponges or just lazily made aimbots. Elites had few animations and the brutes even fewer, which was embarrassing. Arbiters levels were literally hastily thrown together chief missions, with the bare minimum. The 04 Xbox console boxes had images of master chief in the Arbiters library level on the back.
The weapons were reeled back hardcore, plasma weapons couldn't stun, grenade radius and damage was reduced, the smg requires about 3/4ths of its magazine to kill while the original AR required 15 rounds and it dealt bonus damage against vehicles. Sniper rifle could no longer multi-hit, the needler was the biggest fuck up in video game balance history.
flood had fewer animations nor none of the programming of their CE counterparts. They could be essentially headshot and bullet magnetism took away ease of maiming by forcing shots into center mass. There were less flood on screen than CE, less animations for the flood. The flood had the worst textures of all the models, a complete downgrade.
Get off Halo 2's dick you fucking dorito gremlin, little did you faggots know that you built the foundation for Halo 4-5.
>>343719187
>built the foundation for Halos 4 & 5
This is so fucking true, after Halo 3 I thought they would wise up and build campaigns on both CE & 3's levels but instead every fucking game just builds off of 2. ODST takes place in the same city, Reach was story centre for the feels mixed in with having Armor abilities similar to Arby's camo in campaign, 4 was linear with scripted events and story, and 5 had character switching again with the devs once again lying through their teeth. Is it so fucking hard to build a campaign as good as Halo CE and Halo 3 again? Dammit! >:(
>>343718016
>I already stated my dislikes for the campaign in a post earlier >>343698278
Sorry, I spaced out. Anyways, a lot of it seems to just come down to personal preference: I like them fleshing out the covenant more, and I liked the political stuff, for instance.
>Terrible Arbiter levels that dragged the experience down
>Chief's best missions were no where near as good as CE's best missions
Can you further clarify exactly what about the arbiters missions made them worse in your opinion compared to the worst levels in CE, or what about MC's levels in 2 that weren't as good as the good ones in CE for you, so I can try to compare your thoughts with my thoughts on CE's flaws?
Also, do you disagree with my stated flaws for CE, or do you just not think they are that important of issues even if you agree they are present?
>Literally redoing what you already did in CE
Explain?
>Terrible boss fights
I agree, but I don't think they take away from the fun that much
>Linear scripted levels
They aren't substantially any more linear then CE's levels. CE's levels are all linear as well, with the exception of Halo, it's just they have wider combat areas and more pathways, but your progression through each mission is still complete;y linear (again, Halo aside). Personally, I think the wider areas and extra pathways work against CE: it makes many locations feel empty, which is one of my chief complaints, and in indoor areas, the alternate pathways just make the layouts feel like endless mazes, which is another complaint I have.
>Levels split in two to try to give the illusion that the campaign was long
You mean outskirts/metropolis, arbiter/oracle, delta halo/regret, etc? I see what you mean but each "half" isn't any shoter then CE's missions, so this is a non issue, IMO
>False Advertisement about an invasion that never happens
Not actually a part of the game, shouldn't be held against it.
1/3
>>343719187
>>343713849
You're right, I can't believe it.
Lowest players I ever got was around 75.
There's always 15-20 servers running with people playing and anybody can join by simply clicking on it; at the end of the day you open the exe and you're playing in literally 30 seconds. How did 343 fuck up that bad with MCC multiplayer waiting time?
Ps: thanks to all the Mexicans in that teams+run server last night, you Pablitos are funny guys
>>343673862
Halo 1 best Halo
>>343714064
and ce is better then 2 end of story. and yeah the order you play in does matter. people who started with a new game is more likely to like it then the old ones because they are noobs
>>343720789
Ehh, I wouldn't say that, but they will feel some sort of necessity to defend it.
Even today the skill ceiling of CE is so high you can best an aimbot. Since they don't throw grenades for you, or synergy your weapons or melee for you.
>>343720789
I started with 1 on Xbox, then I played 3 on 360, Reach, 1 again on PC, 1 Anniversary (didn't know they were going to release it), 4, and now I'm playing 2 (I have to complete the last level).
Right now I would say
3>1> ??? > 4
I don't know if Reach is better than 2, gotta finish it and play some multiplayer
>>343719187
>>343720153
Aren't CE and 3 the only games that use projectile rather then hitscan like the other games?
>>343721468
its hitscan but it works in frames while the other ones register instantly. halo 2, reach and 4 were so easy to get a hit on a target. a lot of autoaim and no leading so it was just way to easy
>there is a halo mod for empire at war that makes it better than halo wars
>>343720310
Get off of Halo 2's dick. The false advertisement was as bad as Halo 5's. Bungie kept using footage from their E3 2003 demo to advertise the game along concepts of different locations that weren't in the game. Hell there is even what looks like Master Chief fighting Jackals at the Forerunner Gas Mines (an Arbiter mission).
>>343721468
CE has a lot of hit scan weapons and 3 is almost entirely projectile with homing bullet magnetism. The thing about CE was that it had recoilor bloom if you're a fucking nigger.and when CE came to PC they decoupled the hit box from the model to push the skill requirement and fix the netcode issues. Bungie has never, ever been good at netcode, this is why bungie added Magnetism + autoaim and then made the BR fire 3 projectiles. So that even a fucking monkey could score its headshots. While reducing the effective range of the Magnetism and AA for the pistol, so you wouldn't notice on single shot weapons. Unfortunately the shotgun and swipe sniping made it painfully evident.
If you haven't played CE on PC I suggest trying it, shits fuckin engaging.
>>343698278
>>343718016
>>343720310
>One of the worst endings in gaming history
I know other people disliked the ending, I never had an issue with it, and saw it coming: the game had gone on for a long time by that point, and there was an obvious climax with tartarus.
>Worst weapon and vehicle sandbox in trilogy
Why do you feel that way? I thought it was pretty good. You have a decent variety of both human and covenant weapons, more then CE, which had too few, but not so many that there was clone guns like in 3/4. The balance was shit, but that was only a problem with the MP
>Damaged sponge Brutes
I agree they aren't that fun to fight, but I appreciated the variety vs just having more elites, and prefer having them in then just fighing the same 3 enemy types over and over like in CE
>Broken Flood
Explain?
>Broken difficulty settings
Normal and heroic are both fine. Legendary is certainly ridiculous but it's meant to be a challenge, and not the game's default setting, so I don't think it's fair to count it against it.
>>343719187
90% of the shit in your post is about animations. That's not an issue with the campaign, and even if it were, it'd be a minor as fuck issue. All of my complaints about CE are moderate to severe issues that all exacerbate each other to make the game tedious.
>Arbiters levels were literally hastily thrown together chief missions
Again, I feel the arbiter's missions aren't any worse then, 343 guilty spark, the library, two betrayals, keyes, and the maw
In fact, here's how i'd rank all of the missions in both games:
The Great Journey > Delta Halo > Regret > The Silent Cartographer > Metropolis = Outskirts > Cairo Station > Gravemind > Assault on the Control room > Truth and Reconciliation > Uprising > The Pillar of Autumn > Halo = 343 guilty spark > The Arbiter > High Charity > Sacred Icon > The Maw > Keyes > Two Betrayals > Quarantine Zone > The Oracle > The Library
2/3
>>343721890
Advertising is not part of the game.
>>343721890
Please see..
>>343719187
The chief was supposed to be at the library too.
>>343722357
Oh my fucking god Halo 2 was literally Halo 5 of 2004. Fucking DAMMIT! >:'(
What's with the Halo 3 threads today? Are servers closed forever or something? I would rather have had H3 bc than MCC because I stopped caring for multiplayer after Reach.
Reach barely had a custom games community for some reason among my friends.
Are 4 and 5 worth playing for story? I'm not paying to play online because that shit sucks ass.
>>343722307
>>343698278
>>343718016
>>343720310
>The weapons were reeled back hardcore,
I agree 2 has shit weapon balance, but outside of the needler, I don't think any of what you mentioned are issues. The issue with 2's weapon balance for the most part is the BR is just too good, not that the other guns are bad. And in the campaign, none of this is an issue. You aren't forced to use the BR to do well unless you are playing on legendary.
Contrast that with CE, where you pretty much need the magnum on you at all times, since it's the only ranged gun in the entire game outside of the sniper, though you can get by with the plasma rifle
Anyways, that's literally all I have to reply to you. Most of your post are about non issues like the number of animations on characters.
>>343722357
>>343722637
Again, the advertising isn't part of the game, it's fucking stupid to count that against the game itself. Also, CE's marketing was just as misleading, look up the cortana letters.
3/3
>>343722658
>Are 4 and 5 worth playing for story? I'm not paying to play online because that shit sucks ass.
No, but Halo 5 has really, really good MP (better then 3's even, i'd argue.), but you already said you won't play online.
>Reach barely had a custom games community for some reason among my friends.
That's sad to hear, because Reach has way more potential for custom then 3 ever did. Personally, I had friends to play customs with for 2 and reach, but not 3.
when halo 2 came out it was the reach of the time. everyone who came from 1 was thinking what the fuck is this shit. noob ass BR instead of epic pistol. super autoaim. campaign had a few good levels but didnt capture the spirit of halo
>>343677291
Name one person on /v/ that doesn't do that.
>>343723118
That happens with every game ever in every series, and it's dumb.
Once a new game comes out, people call it shit on prrinciple and then people only appreciate the things it did good later on.
>>343722307
>90% of your shit is about animations
And programming and game balance, the enemies in halo 2 might as well have been straight out of 1993's doom. No unique dodging, no unique attacks such as concentrated burst fire or suppression, the AI didn't even work together like it did in CE. Flushing the player out with a strong elite if he avoided it or using numerous weak ones if he was saving his strong weapons while low on basic ammo.
>Again I feel the arbiters missions....
I'm seeing a pattern, you either don't like playing against the flood or just genuinely don't understand what you're supposed to be doing on flood missions. Which is understandable because the flood missions are supposed to 180 you on your tactics. You've been fighting shield and energy weapons with enemies that try to not die. Vs kamikaze enemies using ballistics, explosives and incapacitation weapons that bum rush you.
You need to get good because you are literally projecting your insecurity with flood missions.
Also,
>Metropolis being better than ACR
Don't make me laugh, you are childish. One has aimbots that spawn on roofs with small corridors and the other lets you approach the level as you see fit. and then theres
>Cairo better than Pillar of autumn or even maw or two betrayals
You literally need to stop playing FPS games, neck yourself my man.
>ads aren't the game!
No but they do show you what the intended product originally was, bungie even admitted it a million times. Infact the Halo 3 pre-order CD is quite literally a big " Halo 2 was awful " admission from them.
Stop polishing a turd.
Go play CE and try to get gud at it, then come back.
Fuck play those 3-way battle missions with flood you seem to not be able to master. Literally the best part of the game, where all the content is front and center. Admit it, you just want a 2 dimensional fuckin space drama with maximum story scripting.
>>343723034
My closest guess as to why my friends couldn't get into Reach custom games is that we couldn't find game modes compatible with the maps for some reason.
I still hang out with my friends but not having H3 to bond around is sad as fuck we grew apart after Reach and I recently just hooked back up with them last year when Fallout 4 came out but it's not the same dammit.
I miss playing zombies with friends in Blops and WaW for the easter eggs and screaming at each other because somebody fucked up.
I'm the only one who kept his 360 amongst my friends and they went to pc. I'd go to pc but I'd get too distracted with the internet.
>>343677294
i had mcc back in 2014-early this year and it was a broken mess.
the only way to play halo 3 properly was on 360 and its long dead
>>343723493
its not dumb at all. the originals keep their opinion its just that they dont care enough anymore. the original people who hated reach dont care anymore and all the fanboys who loved it and was their first halo game say its the best shit ever made
>>343673862
>Halo 3
>Worst Halo
Pre-teen detected. Halo 3 was shit compaired to Combat Evolved.
>>343723034
>Advertising not part of the game
Why do you keep saying this? It may not be part of the game but you are using them to promote your game. If you lie to the public about your product, it may hurt future sells of your product. In CE the ads tells you that you are a bad ass cyborg killing aliens that want to wipe out the human race, in the game you are a bad ass cyborg killing aliens who want to wipe out the human race. In Halo 3 the ads said that you will Finish all fights, in the game you finish all fights. Even in Halo 4 the game says that an Ancient Evil awakens in the game an ancient evil did awaken. But with Halo 2 Earth will Never be the Same, how can that be the case if you barely on Earth and there is barely what anyone would call an invasion. In Halo 5 we're told to Hunt the Truth, what truth you already found out Cortana was the antagonist in the second level of the game. So yes false ads can hurt a game.
>>343723034
>BR too good
You can kill 4 enemies with the pistol without reloading, you can only kill 2 with the BR.
>Th-the pistol is too goooood!
Which is it, is the pistol good or the BR? Besides only a bitch sits back and pokes with the pistol, thats entry level noob on campaign. The AR drains shields fantastic, the plasma rifle stuns enemies as well as brings their health to bare. The maps have plenty of cover and varied terrain that you don't need to engage at a distance. And since the elites have the same damage model as multiplayer it means a good player has a sporting chance with any weapon.
>All you have to bitch about is animations!
Jesus christ, reading comprehension little boy, the enemies lack the amount of attacks they had in CE, they lack the dodging mechanics, the damage models and the balanced weapons. They were programmed poorly and are so basic it hurts.
Bungie didn't even program enemies properly again until Reach. And thats because Halo CE went through multiple Dev teams during its production, the dev team during 2 was fucking green, novices, amateurs.
>>343722226
>CE has a lot of hit scan weapons
Which weapons?
Should I just read spoilers for 4&5? I have no ambition to play them at all.
I've avoided them for this long but don't care anymore.
>>343722226
>CE has a lot of hit scan weapons
>>343724582
Pistol, Sniper rifle, Chaingun, the internal mg on the tank as well as its main cannon, the shotgun although its just as random, the AR, the sentinel beam, although that is single player.
>>343724738
watch the terminals for all the games and watch the cutscenes
>>343674426
>start out weapons are potato tier
>piss slow movements
>grenades are as threatening as kittens
>ranking system is mmo tier
>campaign filled with so many plot holes that they had to make a book to fill it out
>turns Johnson into chiefs bitch to rescue
>the only redeeming quality it has is forge which is far better in reach and 5
>>343724783
please see,
>>343724787
Did I say all of them? of course not, unless you're mistaking the decoupled hit boxes in multiplayer for fucking projectiles. In which case you're a dumbass.
>>343724738
Definitely. Multiplayer is the only thing 343 can do worth a fuck,
>>343678029
Halo 4 was ugly as fuck
Shitty sparse grass that dissapeaared after 2 feet
Everything was low res and pixelated
LOD on distant objects was horrible, turning them into muddy blobs
Skyboxes were pixelated 2D cutouts without even being zoomed in on
Art design was trash, forerunner architecture especially, and the redesigns for all the covenant looked fucking dumb
>>343724938
So projectile
>>343724938
Then why does the game take your momentum into account along with leading shots?
>>343725058
hardly, its like this.
Say you see a foe and he's strafing to the left infront of you. If you fire directly at his model, you will miss. Because his hit box is actually 3 crosshairs to the left. Where the hit box sits is entirely determined by his netcode. This forces a player to make judgements on the enemies lead.
There are projectile weapons, FRG, rocket launcher, the flame thrower. But many of the instant transmission point and click weapons like the pistol are hit scan.
Thanks for playing.
>>343725232
see
>>343725479
And it isn't momentum, the game still has hiccups over things like physics. So if you've been hit by a warthog and didn't die or were thrown through the air by an explosion its because there is a massive delay going on.
>>343725479
So projectile?
>>343725025
Get your eyes checked right fucking now
>>343683120
Funny thing is that I despised playing H5's multiplayer this weekend, but I've loved the single player.
>>343725674
Go fish else where fuccboi.
>>343674639
>no more icecream man
>no more monstercarts
>no more duck hunt
>no more bowling, or modding sandtrap elephants
end my suffering /v/
>>343725479
>>343725603
This sounds needlessly complicated. Everyone always seems to say the human weapons were projectile. Now I don't know what the fuck to think.
>>343725603
Then why don't bullets hit instantaneously? There is a delay before it strikes surfaces .
Who has MCC?
>>343674639
>he hasnt done Halo 5 custom games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiUvFIUDaaA
>>343725603
None of the weapons in Halo 1 are hitscan.
>>343725857
>Making the Elephant fly constantly through forge fuckery
I miss it so much If my 360 wasn't dead I'd fire it up right now.
Is Halo Wars Bc? I know Reach Is and I'm not sure about Odst.
>>343723659
>And programming and game balance, the enemies in halo 2 might as well have been straight out of 1993's doom. No unique dodging, no unique attacks such as concentrated burst fire or suppression, the AI didn't even work together like it did in CE. Flushing the player out with a strong elite if he avoided it or using numerous weak ones if he was saving his strong weapons while low on basic ammo.
See, I didn't realize you meant the AI: I totally agree CE has superior AI, there's no questioning that, and it's one of the things I actually really like about CE"s campaign.
>I'm seeing a pattern, you either don't like playing against the flood or just genuinely don't understand what you're supposed to be doing on flood missions.
I'm well aware what i'm supposed to be doing against the flood: it's that I don't like fighting against them. But I can also appreciate the fact that's sorta the point: the flood are supposed to be terrifying, relentless and frustrating. It's wave after wave of enemies swarming you.
It's supposed to be stressful and somewhat tedious. But knowing that doesn't make it less so. And I'd go as far as to concede that fighting the flood is actually more fun in CE then it is in Halo 2, but I simply like the way the gunplay and such is in 2 more then in CE and like the envoirments in 2 more for Sacred Icon and High Charity compared to the maw, keyes, and two betrayals.
>Also,
>Metropolis being better than ACR
>One has aimbots that spawn on roofs with small corridors and the other lets you approach the level as you see fit.
You are mixing up metropolis and outskirts: outskirts has the jackals and cramped urban areas, metropolis the scarab mission. Anyways, my issue with ACR is that there's just so much fucking dead space on that mission. Jackal snipers arne't that bad on heroic and normal, and outskirts is actually is open ended and can be played the way you want too thanks to being able to jump on the rooftops.
1/2
>>343726054
They aren't because Halo Lan, Xbox connect and CE are all three different experiences. Since all three play the same in single player, but interact differently between clients, it can be deduced that they are infact hit scan. Except weapons like the Plasma Rifle and rocket launcher and such.
In a lame ass's terms, it means if you can see it travel over distance at a pace, it is a projectile. the AR and shotgun and pistol don't do that, they've always hit dead on instantly over LAN.
I love seeing people who dont know a fucking thing about 5 and its obvious they are the 360-PS4 crowd.
>>343726376
Probably the PS2-360-PS4 crowd.
>>343726227
So why was that anon saying they are? Besides certain weapons like rockets, flamethrower.
Halo 1 is projectile based, there's even a stupid glitch where you can turn too fast/much and bullets won't shoot down the center of your screen
https://youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=oLxvzHhkq-M
>>343726130
Because of the delay between the clients, the netcode is pretty bad, but I bet its not as bad as xbox connect was.
>>343726357
When I played LAN there was never delay.
>>343726376
this
custom games+forge kicks the living shit out of 3 that its not even funny anymore
>Get an Xbox One a few days ago
>Play Halo 5
>The gameplay is fantastic, the music is also good
>But everything else is terrible
Huh?
