ITT: Worst CastleKino ever
>>343555412
you take that back you fucker.
>>343555412
A bait thread? Nice.
>>343555412
Post best CastleBeano.
>>343555412
I've never played a game in the series. Where is a good place to start? The first game?
>>343556583
That's a pretty good place, yeah. It remains one of the best Castlevania games, too.
>>343555412
What now, you fucks?
>>343556784
Which ones on the WiiU e shop are the best; I wanted to pick up Super Castlevania, Rondo of Blood, and the original
>>343557357
All of those are great and worth playing, as is Castlevania III (my personal favorite).
>>343556583
For classic, yeah. Might as well.
If you enjoy the first game, be sure to play 3, Bloodlines and Rondo. Super is kind of polarizing, but worth a look. Simon's Quest is kind of infamous for being a total fucking mess, so I'd leave it for later or not at all, unless you're feeling ballsy.
Then there's the Metroidvanias. SotN or AoS are probably the best to start with, but you can pretty much pick and choose any of them. Just bear in mind that HoD, PoR and OoE get polarizing opinions too.
>grinding souls in Aria for best ending
>>343558025
Aren't you just adorable.
>Grinding souls for all best weapons in DoS
Now you know true suffering.
>>343558258
I only got the best katana and went with that
>>343558331
>Not getting best longsword
Fuck that piece of shit Iron Golem, but it was worth it.
Also fuck the Final Guard when trying to get best axe.
>>343557494
If you're going to play Castlevania III, emulating the Japanese version with the extra soundchip is the only way to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptgaCJSF7j8
>>343558489
Yeah, yeah. The music is definitely worse, and there are other alterations, but it's not as if Dracula's Curse is fundamentally different. I actually prefer it in some ways thanks to the higher difficulty. But if he wants to play it on his Wii U from the eShop it's not that big of a loss.
>>343558258
>grinding for souls makes their abilities better
I'm not sure if preferred this or the AoS one where some souls were just better than others because none could be upgraded.
>>343555412
For the last time, stop using kino and start using ludo. We could have Ludovania thread but people like you always use Castlekino.
>>343558025
>>343558258
i really hope bloodstain's system doesn't wind up being an obscene grindfest in these ways
The fuck am I missing
>>343560209
I just fucking noticed it, never mind I'm an idiot
>>343559826
>>343560047
I'd rather they just make every enemy have a decent drop rate and just make the really cool/unique souls one-off hidden enemies or something. The best weapons in AoS were all carefully hidden anyway, so it'd just be an extention of that and an extra incentive to explore properly.
Or maybe just like certain glyphs in OoE. Getting the Jiang Shi one was a fucking nightmare, but at least you only had to kill it once, and you felt like you accomplished something rather than just running in and out of the same room for an hour or more.
>>343559904
You both need to fuck right off, really.
>>343560209
>Aria.png
Damn, I thought that was DoS. Clearly I'm not good enough to recognise the games from the maps alone. I am ashamed.
I beat SOTN for the first time two weeks ago
Hot DAMN was that a good time. The game was an easy, unbalanced mess (I guess I am used to the later SOTN-clones on the DS), but I couldn't put the game down. If only the later games had as much money poured into the aesthetics as SOTN did. Not to mention
>hidden bosses
>optional areas
>all these different combat options (familiars, magic, weapons
Pretty amazing that the game felt so full of content, even if it might not be as technically long as some of the games to come out after it.
I actually have a bootleg Turbo disc of Rondo of Blood; I play it every now and again, though i usually turn to Maria because playing as Maria is EZ modo. I need to man up; I beat X68000 for fuck's sake.
Best CastleJambo
>>343561454
also, post yfw you hear this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FsFiBXOVK0
>>343562168
>>343556469
Why is there so much hate for this game?
>>343563018
It's just a shitty meme
>>343562892
screw you that song is great.
>>343563492
I like it, but it comes out of fucking nowhere.
I have it, Lost Painting, and Wandering Ghosts as my favorites of the soundtrack, and listen to them occasionally on long drives.
>>343561475
Cool bosses. Bad level design.
>>343562168
>>343563739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7Y-EJDGOU
Why is it so good?
>>343555412
Threadly reminder that there is no bad Metroidvania. Meaning that if you consider games like CotM or even HoD shit then you're a turbo faggot.
>>343564284
I dunno. Why does it only play in that ONE area, where it gets interrupted before it ever gets to the good part? It's such a small area, with so little reason to stay in it for very long.
>>343556583
Play 1, 3 Rondo, Bloodlines, then stop
Because they stopped making good castlevania games after that, and instead just made shitty metroid clones with RPG progression.
>>343564059
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650396
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>>343564517
They are not shit, I do consider them weaker than standard metroidvania for one reason or another.
>>343565428
That's completely fair, I just find it pretty retarded that some idiots in these threads consider the DS games to be shit for instance, or HoD to be some sort of abomination even though they're fine games.
>>343555412
It's actually very good, you're just a scrub
corner guard owns your behind bitch
>>343566695
*spear guard, the fuck am I saying
>>343564564
meme answer, but he's right
if you're gonna play a metroidvania, though, you might as well play symphony of the night after rondo because it's still fun
>>343555412
I wish it had Castlevania IV controls, but other than that, this was not a shit game.
>>343566993
>IV
it's not real castle mania
ree, yada yada
>>343560579
>Getting the Jiang Shi one was a fucking nightmare, but at least you only had to kill it once
I'm pretty sure you had to get that glyph multiple times to max out it's level. But I haven't played OoE in years so I'm not sure if I'm remembering this correctly.
>>343555412
>shitting on the only worthy successor to III
that's some taste, anon
>>343564085
>Bad level design
So par for the course in terms of IGAvania then.
How come nobody bought this game?
>>343555412
I think and always will say that SCIV is the best of the classicvanias despite what all the Arin shitters say. Castlevania chronicles comes in a close second.
>>343567350
>only worthy successor to III
But OP didn't post pic related.
>>343567287
You didn't have to strengthen glyphs at all, IIRC, multiple absorptions did nothing.
Even if it did, you could just absorb it muliple times in one fight.
>Kino
What the fuck is this? Why am I seeing it everywhere on the board? Fuck off back to /tv/ or wherever your shitty meme originates from
>>343567484
Sort of, but Aria of Sorrow and Symphony of the Night achieved their goals of being fun to explore. Order of Ecclesia is just dull. Even compared to Portrait of Ruin it's frequently dull.
>How come nobody bought this game?
Fairly niche, and being WiiWare exclusive limited its player base and recognition. I don't think any of the games in the ReBirth series sold very well. Great game, though.
>>343567252
Well, the only real castlevania is the first one. Every single castlevania after that changed the mechanics in one way or another, so if you're gonna be picky, you might as well be full picky and only accept the original NES game as the true castlevania game.
>>343567509
my problem, and I think a lot of other people's problem with sciv is that the controls don't feel like castlevania should (stiff and difficult).
half the fun of castlevania is learning to react quickly to obstacles with a limited moveset and rondo does such a better job at it than sciv
>>343567632
I thought it was Dracula X
>>343567509
People recognized that IV had some weird design choices even before Aron's video. An interview with one of the devs even confirmed that the mechanics and level design/enemies were on two different pages, IIRC (I think it was a HCG101 interview, though I might be wrong). It's an excellent game, but it is a little clumsy.
>>343567962
Rondo's controls are very different from the first Castlevania though. Way more flexible, faster, and you can change direction mid-air AND do the backflip, not to mention the item crash. And Maria, but that's optional, but still Richter is enough different than the original Simon from CV1.
Castlevania III already changed a lot of stuff around with being able to switch characters on the fly, you start as Trevor, but as soon as you get Alucard, bam, you can fly over enemies like it's nothing.
Even Bloodlines has diagonal whipping, and X68000 lets you whip down while jumping.
Rondo was also the first in the series that would let you jump while on stairs.
>>343568324
So the only worthy 16-bit follow-up to III is actuallyHaunted Castle.
>>343568324
Rondo had some improved mechanics, sure, but they only served to make what was previously unfair more manageable (jumping on stairs and changing direction midair).
Apart from the item crashes, I always thought of Castlevania as the game where you play as a human being. You can change the way you face when you jump, but not your momentum, etc., and I think Rondo still has a realistic-enough main character that it fits the mold.
>>343568739
Rondo is an excellent game, as are IV or Bloodlines, but none of them are like the original CV.
Still, I think the series was more or less consistent throughout the different entries, even if they all changed stuff. The real change and genre shift was SOTN.
>>343568978
The New Generation does, at least its jumping physics. You can only do a jump up and a forward long jump, no wiggling around while mid-air.
>>343568739
The way the stairs worked before and being unable to change direction midair wasn't really "unfair" though. The stairs worked the way they did to impose a sense of claustrophobia and restriction. Being able to jump just relieves some of that tension. I wouldn't call it an improvement, just less punishing. Same goes for the increased midair flexibility.
>>343569182
Yeah but it also has diagonal whipping with Morris, and all-direction (and long range) with Eric. it's still different enough from the original.
>>343567642
>multiple absorptions did nothing
No they did, but only for the Familiar glyphs. The more times you absorbed a familiar glyph like the zombie, owl or Jiang Shi summons the more levels they'd gain. The maximum level was 3 I believe.
>>343570496
Huh. Was there an actual indicator on the glyph showing that? And again, either way, you could still absorb the Jiang Shi glyph multiple times in one fight. It's just annoying because the faggot jumps around so much and hits like a fucking truck.
>>343570676
>Was there an actual indicator on the glyph showing that?
I think there was a level count on the equip menu.
>you could still absorb the Jiang Shi glyph multiple times in one fight.
Don't worry, I know that much. I even used that boss to grind my way to level 255, since I loved the game that much.
>>343564564
>rpg progression
>implying levels matter
>>343571275
>even used that boss to grind my way to level 255
Shitting hell, I didn't even know you could go above 100. Then again, I never got around to playing hardmode. I do need to go back and finish getting all the boss medals though. Fucking Blackmore and Eligore are really annoying for that shit.
>>343558025
Grinding in Aria is piss easy.
You move super fast, hit super hard, and there is practically no load time between rooms.
It never takes more than 5 minutes per soul.
>>343571580
>I didn't even know you could go above 100
The 255 level cap was an unlockable, can't remember how you got it though. Also if you ever decide to do the same thing I'd suggest equipping two exp boosting rings and doing the cat transformation's X attack. That'll finish the Jiang Shi boss in no time, while giving you a fuck ton of exp.
>>343571580
I've completed lv1 hardmode by abusing the fuck out of light+dark spells
>>343572224
Eh, I don't know if I'd ever want to, in all honesty. I enjoyed OoE for what it was, but I was about level 50-something on normal difficulty on my first playthrough with the Large Cavern and the other optional zone completed, and I was still level 50-something on NG+ when I was trying to go for all the medals. Grinding that much just seems like a chore, even if I got to the point where farming Jiang Shi was practical. Thanks for the suggestions all the same.
>>343572725
I vaguely remember the glyph fusions for those being pretty good. Nitesco + something else destroys Dracula in seconds on normal though, can't remember what it was.
What I want to know is why does this dog die in one hit
>>343573225
Because Alucard is so strong there.
>>343573225
Isn't that just a big wolf? There were actual werewolves in the game. Also to show off how cool Alucard is.
>>343573225
are you retarded? I thought the whole point of the intro was to show stronk alucard was with his gear and then death cucks him and you're a weakling after that
>>343573225
That's not the a werewolf, though. The werewolf is in the arena waiting to punch your face with his minotaur buddy.
And also, because regular wolves are bitch-tier.
Although you can only fight them at that point when you still have Alucard's sword, so maybe they're not total bitches.
Who's the cutest belmondo?
>>343573435
why did he have to do this for
the game feels better with his stuff
at least i get to jab at bones though
>>343573729
he likes your dad to much
my questiomn is why didn't he kill you right there
he totally could have done it
>>343573729
>why did he have to do this for
It's progression. It's not being strong that feels good, it's getting stronger.
>>343573860
Because videogames.
But if you want to think harders, I'd guess it's because the game you play is merely a representation of the events that took place in the story, so even though you could calculate how weaker or stronger you got by counting the numbers on screen, in a realistic interpretation of the story it's possible that there was never that much of a gap between early and later enemies or even yourself as levels went by.
>>343573729
>>343573860
>Death can just steal all your empowering shit
>Doesn't do it a second time when Alucard actually fights him
>Doesn't do it for any other character in the series.
Yes, yes, I know, video games.
>>343573225
probably because you start with good equipment
how hard are they after death takes your stuff?
Who's the best looking Castlevania character?
>>343569182
>the new generation
Australia-kun, go away and stop shitting up Castlevania threads.
>>343573860
It seems he still respects Alucard (for Dracula's sake, if nothing else). He even refers to him as "Master," as I recall.
>>343573013
any light spell + darkspell fusion is flash that damages everything on screen. Its very heart consuming though so you cant spam it.
i just finished sotn
which other ones play like it?
currently on aria of sorrow
>>343562168
>>343576037
like almost every castlevania that came after it. Sotn is one of the best though.
>>343573225
>>343573729
Are you a complete dumbfuck or what? That's the damn setup for the entire point of the damn game. It was unprecedented approach and it was executed in perfect way.
For once there's a game where you actually start as SOMEBODY. To make sure even dumbfucks like you understand, they put you against a wolf that's bigger than you. He's literally boss size enemy. But you go through him like hot knife through butter. You're supposed to go "oh wow what the hell is going on?! how am I this strong?" and then Death turns you into pussy. So business as usual just like any game ever.
But you had a little taste of all that power. You're motivated more than ever to get it all back.
But no wonder this simple concept went over your head. You are too busy pushing your garbage /tv/ meme in these shitty threads.
>>343575190
>Australia-kun
This shitty strawman again? Not everyone who grew up with PAL is him, you autistic moron.
What's the point of the levels and EXP in the metroidvanias?
It just makes them easier.
>>343577363
That's why they barely change your strenght in CV. It's just another shoehorned RPG element.
>>343555412
Lightning doesn't strike twice, asshole. Baneposting was the only successful meme you /tv/ faggots have ever forced for a reason.
>>343564631
Why do you post this in every Castlevania thread.
