>40% smaller
>Literally the cheapest 4k Blu-Ray player on the market, if not the cheapest then the best value you can find
>4k video playback
>**NEW** Just confirmed that games will be upscaled to 4k
>$299, literally $20 more than the OG Xbox One w/ Kinect
>No power brick
>Already sold out
It may not be the be-all end-all console, but at the some time I fail to see how it's gonna...fail.
>B-but it's useless because of Scorpio!
I think you guys are missing the bigger picture. The Xbox One S is just merely a means to replace the OG Xbox One, while the Scorpio is there if you want a high end console. Want a console with updated hardware and can just upscale to 4k? The S is for you. Want the high end console that can do true 4k? The Scorpio is for you. In the end, Microsoft profits from this, everybody wins. And no, im not a shill.
>>343551838
>people will continue to ignore the xb1
cool but what about games
Gee thanks anon, I can't wait to buy a system with even less exclusives than the Playstation 4 AND pay out the ass for 4K bluray which is just a meme!
>>343551838
>high-end console
There is no such thing.
But yeah, it looks pretty decent. But I'm not that hopeful about it selling so well.
Especially now when all Xbox games are on Windows 10 as well. Thank God for that.
>>343551838
>will be upscaled to 4K
LOL
I like the design, it looks sexy
>>343551838
oh cool now list 5 exclusives on it
>>343552123
Soon
>>343552283
Isn't the Neo only upscaling too?
>>343551838
What exclusives does it have?
Hard mode: no shooters.
>>343552334
>>343552434
When will this exclusives cancer end?
>>343552434
What exclusives do any consoles have that aren't shooters?
>>343552538
when consoles die or PC stops having better multiplatform games
>>343552434
Why does a certain platform suck dick so much when it comes to Bethseda and mods?
>>343552242
The original Xbox was actually high end for the price compared to PCs at the time
>Literally the cheapest 4k Blu-Ray player on the market
You can get a branded 4k bluray player for about £80. How are you benefitted by telling lies?
>>343551838
>>**NEW** Just confirmed that games will be upscaled to 4k
That's what TVs do anyway. They'll have some hardware upscale filter. That shit's not impressive, considering otherwise you'd just not be able to see anything on the 4k TV if you're playing non-4k content.
>>343552704
>Look mommy, I can tell lies on the internet!!1!
>>343551838
This is so stupid when you praise for a console for the spec when there isn't much game to it. Not the best example but this kind of behavior always remind of those poser camera gear fags who always wanting to buy high end camera but doesn't know shit about photography.
>>343551838
>**NEW** Just confirmed that games will be upscaled to 4k
Why do normies not understand what upscaling means. A 1080p image will look exactly the same on a 4k tv as it does on a 1080p display.
>>343552621
nobody in the real world cares about pc gaming though
it's still a niche nerd hobby
>>343553047
and were on a forum that are those niche nerds you
>>343551838
>falling for the 40% smaller meme
>>343552902
Sorry you're right, 3D showed for some reason. They're still from £140 though.
>>343552961
Consoles should be praised by specs and features, not by exclusives. Then console manufacturers can focus on hardware and developers can focus on making games for all platforms. You have everything backwards.
>>343552678
Well back in the early 00s we weren't at the point where technology this year is 5x better than technology last year.
I only care because muh HDR. Maybe 4k streaming when I get fibre optic. Having said that, I'll just wait for the Scorpio.
>>343551838
>720p upscaled to 4k
>>343553106
echo chamber effect leads to delusion like >>343552621
>>343552434
>still zero serious replies
LMAOOOOOOOOO XBOTS PLS
>>343553145
>>343553145
Well, OP did say best value, so not really entirely wrong.
>>343551838
hol up. Can you buy a 4K television that CANNOT upscale a 1080p signal to 4k by itself?
They all do this out of the box, right? Just like PS3 output 720p for 95% of games, and worked fine on 1080p sets.
no you are a shill and anyone who buys this is a sucker
1080 still can't do 4k30fps reliably and I doubt MS or Sony will be taking that much of a loss to make a console capable of it
Is there a benefit in the console doing the up scaling as opposed to your TV?
>>343553478
>Can you buy a 4K television that CANNOT upscale a 1080p signal to 4k by itself?
Yes. Hisense for example don't support uprendering in anyway, unless it's the native HD players in built like apps/freeview television.
>>343551838
>that "we give up it's a rectangle" design
The passion is gone.
This reminds me
How are these screens "90% larger" than the original 3ds
Someone explain it to me I just cant grasp it
>>343551838
Shoo shoo! Go away Microsoft shill!
>>343553472
No he didn't. He said "literally the cheapest".
>>343553630
it stretches the image and you can tell.
but it's a shitty resolution so it's easy to get used to it.
>>343551838
>OG Xbox One
STOP STEALING ITS NAMES
YOU'RE KILLING IT
IT'S FADING AWAY
>>343553617
>tfw even roku puts more effort into their design than microsoft does and all roku does is imitate muh small tiny apple tv shits
Can it store video files, music and pictures?
Then I might think about getting it as a media machine since ps4 can't
>>343553501
Different methods for upscaling result in difference in quality of output. A TV will just do a nearest neighbor interpolation since that's all it's hardware can handle and it won't look as good as a more hardware intensive method.
>>343553478
not sure but, sorta related, I have one of those cheap korean 1440p monitors and I can't use it with any consoles at all, because it needs 1440p. HDMI pre-2.0 can't even carry that
>>343552242
>There is no such thing.
N64, DC, GC and Xbox were all high-end even to comparative PCs when they were released. Even if it only lasted a year or so.
>>343553758
Soon. Anniversary update will allow it.
>>343553673
>Literally the cheapest 4k Blu-Ray player on the market, if not the cheapest then the best value you can find
>If not the cheapest then the best value you can find
>If not the cheapest then the best value
>best value
You're a fucking moron.
>>343553758
Not yet. IIRC it's coming some time this summer.
>>343553673
Don't sweat it. he's just shilling a dead console. literally nothing to see here
>>343553501
I dunno if it's superstition, but I've always felt more input lag on PS3 compared with 360 or Wii U, because PS3 will not upscale games to 1080. Meanwhile the other two always output 1080 as per your settings, even while playing 480p wii games.
I think built in TV scalers add more latency
>>343554062
Any and all scaling adds input lag.
>>343553758
It will when the Anniversary Update (August 2nd) comes out.
VLC, Emulators, Background Music, even Operating Systems (Win95, Win7) and even more. How the fuck can the PS4 even compete at this point?
>>343552415
>Soon
Until then it's useless.
>>343554385
>Emulators
>Operating System
Ok now you're lying.
>>343554249
right. but all those consoles play 720p games. Is it not the case that the 360's scaler is either "faster" or "of higher quality" than the one in a typical television?
>>343553716
Everything the original Xbox did right in order to get its foot in the door, the Xbox One does wrong.
Xbox 1: by far the most powerful console of its generation
Xbox One: Weaker than the market leader
Xbox 1: tons of exclusives and new IPs
Xbox One: Hardly any exclusives; new IPs are usually multiplatform
Xbox 1: launched at a very competetive price against the PS2
Xbox One: launched $100 more expensive than the PS4
The Xbox One is Microsoft's PS3, except rather than turning it around with great exclusive software, they are trying to turn it around with more powerful hardware revisions and PC connectivity features that actually undermine interest in the console itself.
That's great and all but what games am I going to play on it?
>>343554529
>Xbox 1: tons of exclusives and new IPs
LOL yeah dude i loooove halo 1 and halo 2
>>343551838
>still caring about xbone
I don't own nor xbone nor ps4.
Still, I'm thinking about getting PS4.5 for some games. xbone is dead to me because of MS shitty policies.
>>343554529
The logo Microsoft goes by is "Earn the customers trust and proceed to fuck them in the ass with barbed wire" rinse and repeat
>>343554556
The exclusives + 4 free games you get per month. Oh, don't forget about Backward Compatibility?
Seriously, why does people keep forgetting BC? Makes no sense it's there and it's free and nobody gives a shit, whereas Sony actually CHARGES you to STREAM BC games and people are ok with it. What gives?
>>343554698
You say that like they're shit. You can literally play every single Halo game on the X1 (except the upcoming Halo Wars 2) now which is really neat.
>>343553716
>Implying it's not intentionally marketing scheme trying to kill early 2000's Xbox with the 2013 launch of the console.
>>343554923
>backward compatibility
it's actually MS backward compatibility and it means "you've got to download patches and you still have no idea if the game will work properly".
>>343554907
>The logo Microsoft goes by is "Earn the customers trust and proceed to fuck them in the ass with barbed wire" rinse and repeat
Every fucking company logo goes by that.
>>343553264
Hyperbole with that 5x each year aside, older processors improved at a much faster rate each year than what we have today, to the point where a lot of them were 50% or even higher in performance than what was offered last year. Today the differences are generally 10% improvement a year besides new generations. The reason this year's graphics cards are so much better than last year is just because it's a different generation. Next year will go back to the usual until a new generation, and so on until quantum computers become a thing.
In the end, consoles are cheaper and worse for the money today compared to PCs because that's what the market wants. The people buying consoles don't want to shell much money out and want to play games that their friends play, and to play with their friends. Nobody really minds that they're playing at a relatively low resolution or frame rate because that's not why they bought it. Everything is much simpler to consolefags: how good do games look on it compared to its competitor? What games are being offered (that I want to play) in each? Who will I be able to play this with? Details about actual performance in frame rates, teraflops and benchmarks either bore or confuse them.
Since they don't know or care for the virtues of the PC, consolefags choose one console or the other. Feeling defensive about their choice, they argue amongst themselves in favor of their own consoles regardless of which one actually has better performance. This is in stark contrast to PC feuds, where computer components are racked against each other almost exclusively based on performance, price, and performance for the price.
>>343554923
>4 free games you get per month.
Just pay one yearly fee to get all these free games!
Do you at least get to keep them when your subscription runs out or do you get cucked like ps+?
>>343554923
> + 4 free games you get per month
lel
>>343551838
is the Halo story complete yet? I've been waiting on buying and of these xbobex b/x I wanna play the Halo story but not trying to wait 5 years in between each game. Also I prob w8 till the new scorpio thing comes out and get the Neo as well. Damn I love having money :D
>>343555145
Microsoft being the roughest fucker of them all.
>>343555484
tick tock, normie.
>>343555380
One of the platforms you need Gold to be able to keep playing, forgot which one.
>>343555387
>PC
Not everyone is into PC.
>Plugging in your 360
I mean, if you want (or can for that matter) to do that, then by all means, nothing wrong with that. But some of us just don't have a 360. Some of us gave away/sold our 360s. Having BC is very convenient for some of those unlucky. And yeah, sure you didn't buy a console to play old games but at the same time what if some of us missed out on those games? I have never played Mass Effect 1 before, and now I played it, enjoyed it, and am awaiting MS to make ME2 and ME3 BC. Think outside the box, yo.
>>343555432
I mean, compared to PS+ that's literally nothing but (shitty) indies, it's a steal.
>>343555484
Not until Halo 6 at least, and even then I doubt it will end there. It's expanded universe (books, animations, lore, etc) will never truly put it to rest.
>>343555870
>waiting to play rereleases of last gen games
>"Think outside the box"
you are the only one here stuck in a box my man
>>343551838
>Literally the cheapest 4k Blu-Ray player on the market, if not the cheapest then the best value you can find
>4k video playback
Sorry no dice, even if you started from scratch with a Skylake CPU and DDR4 you can still build a 4K Video playback computer for cheaper
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V9R3Fd
>>343552283
Lol WTF it plays games in 4k. But if the game isn't made in 4k then this isn't gonna magical retexture you game dumbass
>>343553630
In area, not in side length, if that is what you are wandering about.
>>343551838
I still won't buy one because of the mandatory online fee
>>343556346
>Lol WTF it plays games in 4k.
No it doesn't
>But if the game isn't made in 4k
None of them will be you retarded fucking child.
>>343556230
shit on my dick, how would this perform as an htpc?
can I use madvr+LAV with smooth video (for porn) and all that other shit?
>>343556346
>it plays games in 4k
no, it upscales games to 4K. Which is stupid as fuck since every 4K TV already does that
>if the game isn't made in 4k
none of them will be
>>343555870
>Not everyone is into PC.
Yeah but you saying the games are exclusive doesn't hold up when they aren't exclusive to the console.
>Some of us gave away/sold our 360s. Having BC is very convenient for some of those unlucky.
Well then that would be the owner's fault then wouldn't it? Again, why should someone buy this new console to play last gen games when you can go out and get a used 360 for pennies and play the games on there?
>>343552415
>Isn't the Neo only upscaling too?
yes
>>343556384
If you're smart and do your research and browse the Xbox One or PS4 subreddit (inb4 reddit, fuck off) you can find a 12 month membership as low as $30, $28 if your lucky. A year.
What are you, poor?
>>343551838
th-thanks marketer...
>>343556776
>having to search for deals to play on the internet you already pay for
wew
>>343551838
>Want the high end console that can do true 4k
Lol good luck pal
Woah....I can't afford NOT to get an Xbox One™ S® !!!
>>343553145
Nope, cheapest is £430. 4K upscaling players aren't UHD players.
>>343553617
I agree that the XBO design might be a bit bland and unappealing, but what exactly do you want? Shit popping out of it, curves, and unessicarry overdesign like the Playstation Rhombus? It's compact and simple, and it's gonna be sitting in a shadow under your TV anyways. Spend more money on tech and research instead of paying thousands for designers.
>>343551838
>And no, im not a shill.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
What does "upscales to 4k" even mean? Don't 4k TVs already upscale 1080p to 4k? Why do you need the console to do it?
>>343556384
Who plays multiplayer anyways?
>>343556706
Now, I am not saying a new gen console is a must have because of BC, but it is a very nice addition the developers gave for the Xbox people.
It's convenient. It's only a matter of time before the majority of the 360 library is fully accessible for the One. If you want to get a 360, that's your choice. Some of us can't get a 360, even if it's dirt cheap. Some of us actually dont want a 360. Is it still our fault? Nope.
>>343557018
>Why do you need the console to do it?
because what else is there to gloat about with consoles...games? LOLOLOL
>>343551838
Xbox One games aren't fun, I regret buying mine. Halo 5 was a big letdown and I've never liked Gears. Hardware doesn't sell consoles, games do. Sure in the begining ps4 might of had an edge because of hardware, because of serious lack of games, but now I'd take a regular ps4 any day over a beefed up xbox one when it comes.
>>343551838
>And no, im not a shill
Hillary Shills were more convincing then you, faggot.
>>343556581
The 4K video decode in that build comes from the Skylakes iGPU, its the 5th Gen of Intel Quick Sync
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video
It'll play h.264, h.265, VP8, and VP9 videos with no problem which the majority of what you see is h.264, while most webm's (on here atleast) are VP8
The reason why I went with skylake is because its successor will use the same socket (for once) and it'll be an easy upgrade, thats also why I threw in a 500W instead of 300W PSU incase a cheap GPU is popped in for light/mid gaming
I've never heard of madvr so sorry I can't say
>>343557018
If you bothered to read the thread you'd know
I used to be a sony fanboy. now that sony charges for online use though I think deciding which console to buy boils down to which controller you like more. Picking one based on "exclusives" or buying both makes no sense. It's just the controller now
MS Paki shills are here.
>>343556874
4k at 30 fps console medium settings with the scorpio's hardware is somewhat feasible.
>>343552853
4k Upscaling is a just sales' buzzword
>>343553047
The real world is more than just 'Murica, son.
>>343556230
>no UHD blu-ray drive
>>343552549
Oh no, you said the "PS has nogaems" meme so much you actually started to believe it was true. I bet you think nintendo consoles don't have any good games either
Both nintendo and sony consoles have loads of good games that aren't shooters. It's just xbox that's a failure for appealing to 13 year olds.
>>343557678
>The real world is more than just 'Murica, son.
Not hardly
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BkR3Fd
I made a mistake, the last motherboard actually didn't have HDMI out go figure, this one does and I double checked its v1.4
switched to a 1TB HDD because why not
>>343558073
explain, what is the difference between a "UHD Blu-ray drive" and a "Blu-ray reader"
>>343552242
>downloading w10
>using w10 ever
![[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_20.40_[2016.07.03_00.37.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ma07MZu.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_20.40_[2016.07.03_00.37.31].jpg")
>**NEW** Just confirmed that games will be upscaled to 4k
kek
>>343558567
Directly from engineering department to marketers :^)
Not directing this at anyone specifically, but why do people have such a hard time understanding what upscaling is?
Image related, this is literally what it will look like on your display if content is not upscaled (specifically 1080p to 4K).
>>343558818
Kids are dumb
>>343551838
My Dad's buying an Xbox One S because he wants a 4K bluray player
I bought myself a PS4 to play Jap exclusives.
Odin Sphere might come in the mail today so I'm pretty excited for that
Are there any Xbone exclusives to look forward to when we get one or they all gonna come out on PC?
>>343558818
Now waifu2x that shit
>>343559063
got you sempai
>>343552538
When Sonyfags cease to exist in the console race since that's the only argument they could make since all they have is movies and weeb shit.
>>343558478
UHD blu-rays are a new format that can't be read by a regular blu-ray player/reader. It's the same as trying to play a blu-ray on your DVD player.
>>343559481
Fantastic
>>343554841
I rather get an Xbone or PS4 rather than any Nintendo machine.
>>343558954
Depends, all the exclusives tend to come on Steam and PC and M$ and Sony are working to push Nintendo out of the console market.
You can cross play any Xbone game with a PC and hopefully with a PS4 too.
>>343551838
Mfw they said all three xbones will run the same games. Mfw this means console parity with lowest common denominator, the classic xbone.
>>343551838
>Want the high end console that can do true 4k? The Scorpio is for you.
>can do true 4k
Hahahahahaha, no
>>343551838
>2016
>still watching blu rays
>buying films
klepek
>>343560234
>M$ and Sony are working to push Nintendo out of the console market.
>>343560496
It's true though, the fuck you on about?
>>343560496
Hey man the 360 ran megaman 9 and 10 at 1080p.
>>343559481
>>343559063
When will MadVR support Waifu2x?
why the fuck would i buy a slightly better xbox than the one i have now or go buy this thing now when neo is supposed to also come out around the same time, the scorpio is next year, or every single xbox exclusive is now on the PC and i could just finally invest in a gaming pc.
>>343551838
Xbox one getting better and better.
Ps4 is still waiting for greatness.
S
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B
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>already sold out
>Scorpio around the corner
People are dummies
>>343553264
>the rate of technological improvement has increased since the 00s
this is completely false. Why would you say this
>>343561573
He's underage
>>343551838
What game is better bros? MCC or halo 5? Im dying to replay halo 2 and 3 again but maybe halo 5 is legit amazing and better than those. Just got an xbone
>>343559789
I do not see any Blu-ray Drives on PCPartpicker with higher than x12 read speeds, so either they just don't list them and my build is inferior
or the difference between Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray isn't in read speed/laser but codec which again the CPU has its decoder in Hardware already
i keep getting conflicting information in my searches but I simply just don't care anymore, I concede.
>>343551838
Oh wow, I can't wait to buy a game console to watch my DVDs!
>>343551838
>**NEW** Just confirmed that games will be upscaled to 4k
As opposed to what? Do you even know what this means, shill?
>>343552434
Every Xbox 360 game? Backwards compatibility is something PS dosent do.
>**NEW** Just confirmed that games will be upscaled to 4k
Why are xbonefags are so exited about it?
Upscaling means that the games wont run in 4k native, it just takes low res and stretches it. It like watching a 720p video on 4k displays
>>343559789
>>343561813
They're just 50GB Blu-ray discs, not even 100GB.
>>343552434
forza? or is that on pc now
>>343553763
Newsflash: upscale never looks good.
>>343557265
A handicap compromise setting is a bonus feature on the consoles, LOL.
