Why are smash players such autistic sperglords?
Part 2
this thread really reminds me...of that time dunkey beat sky in smash
>>343547304
here goes
>>343547187
>he wants to continue an autistic shit-flinging thread
just give up m8, let it die
>>343547532
It shifted further into a sandbox shooter rather than an rpg with shootan for combat.
>>343547304
I'm da man.
Truth
>>343547304
let's go
>>343547912
I support Trump and I hate Smashfags
>>343547304
Rolling.
Why are the FGC a buncha nignogs?
>That friend that played meta knight in brawl
>>343547912
But that would imply the smash community is good.
>>343547304
might as well
>>343547912
>Not wanting to build a wall and making the smash players pay for it.
Smash Bros cringe thread?
>>343547532
>Lacking weapon variety
>World was boring and had very few interesting characters
>Story was shit and you had little to no choice in of outcome
>Everything felt half assed even the stuff they did right
>No new and interesting enemies or mutants
>Blatantly breaking the lore (PRE WAR FUCKING JET)
>completely ignoring everything obsidian added in new Vegas
>A lot of shit just didn't make sense
this the doubles GF thread?
>>343547532
I got it when MS fucked up their pricing, and I got bored of it before they even revoked the license
What does /v/ think of Black DSP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0speQHbLMtU
>>343548216
I always loved how genji looks like a stereotypical weeb ninja character but his character is super happy and grateful to be alive.
Hanzo is actually edgier than Genji.
>only play on the SpongeBob CRT
does someone actually do this? i know jack shit about pro smash
Anyone got a webm of Jebailey getting BTFO by Kenny?
>>343548662
Their autism knows no bounds
>>343548662
They bitch about the 1ms input lag on the other TVs
>>343548763
>Bitch about 1ms of lag
>All smash games have 6 frames of lag built in so 20f moves aren't reactable
top fucking kek
>>343547532
Complete lack of depth or complexity.
>>343547912
>Smash community = Trump supporters
not much realyy
>>343547912
You got it the other way around buddy
>>343548510
i made a wtfox thread because this thread's just gonna be more shit-flinging
>>343548837
>>343547680
>>343549093
Meant for
>>343547912
>>343549093
http://smashboards.com/threads/transcending-barriers-transgender-women-in-smash.431200/
>>343548939
>>343548837
The sm4sh and melee communities are almost entirely separated
>>343549083
thanks
>>343549093
>jojo
Can you just go back to r eddit man
>>343549336
/a/ please
>>343549220
nothing new
nearly everything is separated as fuck in the Smash community
pic related need to be updated
>>343549336
kek good one m8 i r8 8/8
>TOs round up all the Smash fags saying 'melee starts at 8:00, come on, let's go'
>Smash fags show up at 8:00, expecting what they were promised
>discover that they're so far behind schedule, GG is just starting
>boo a little bit
>FGC spergs out, because the rest of the FGC hates smash
It wasn't that they were booing GG, and it wasn't just that they didn't want to wait. TOs actually gathered them up and said melee was about to start, and it was totally wrong, so they were a little disappointed.
That's it.
>>343549336
t. /a/utist
>>343547187
>smash 4
xd
>>343548837
>FGC gets pissy about being "polite" like a good little cuck.
are you a retarded or just a mongoloid? the fgc doesnt give a fuck about politically correct anything
>>343548837
Smash community values their independence and will not hesitate to leave FGC tournaments if they get a raw deal, like the UK leaving the EU.
FGC rages and insults them for defying their globalist tyranny.
>>343549535
>>FGC spergs out, because the rest of the FGC hates smash
whiny FGCucks need to be all hanged
>>343547680
That fucking kid. I would have done the same thing as Kyle, though look where that got him.
>>343549671
The UK ruined their economy while getting nothing in return.
>>343549464
They must have different ideas of 'rosterfags' than me.
IMO rosterfags are people who only care about what characters/DLC show up in the game rather than gameplay (basically every S4 fan) but it sounds like they're talking about tier-whores, which HAL games have in spades
>>343549584
>>343549501
>>343549452
I bet you unironically enjoy Umaru and One Punch Man
>>343548206
>he didn't watch the live video broadcast of them booing GG medals
>>343549886
I enjoyed one punch man but I hate that fucking hamster.
>>343549886
t. /a/utist
S T I N K Y D A Y
>>343549464
I played Melee before Smash 4 came out because I didn't like Brawl at all, I play Smash 4 now because I like it better than Melee in the places that matter. I stopped watching Melee because honestly it's gotten old and the community is cancer, but Melee is still my 2nd favorite.
>>343548629
Isn't that due to lore reasons? Originally genji hated his robo ninja circumstance but after getting to know zenyatta he appreciates all that surrounds life.
>>343549837
>The UK ruined their economy
t. Soros
>>343549986
The only autism I see here is you.
>>343549986
he's right though
whats the point in fucking with someone
>>343549984
/v/ loved OPM before it got an anime and got popular.
It's just contrarionism.
>>343550089
The pound is in the gutter and you lost your AAA rating.
>>343549886
Smash community = Umaru fans
FGC = OPM fans
whens WTFOX stream
>>343550163
>muh board culture mutha fucka
some time i wish /v/ was deleted for 10 days so everyone can go shit up /a/ like Moot fucked up /pol/ (or Positron Uprising)
>>343550309
So smash is better?
>>343550360
>some time i wish /v/ was deleted for 10 days so everyone can go shit up /a/
don't we all?
>>343550360
You mean that time moot got so butthurt about being called a cuck that he deleted a whole board and then resigned?
>>343550360
>I'll reply to him with more incoherent autistic ranting, that will show him
>>343550538
Which board was it?
>>343550240
the pound is at 1.33 usd right now
>>343550626
/pol/ anon
>>343547187
>top players wanting to skip pools
Melee is a fucking joke.
>>343550545
>I'll refure back by calling him autistic, that will show him!
>>343550538
>deleted
If only
>>343550354
It's at SmashStudios
>>343550689
Why couldn't it stay deleted?
>>343550803
Learn what refute means, autismo.
>>343550545
the irony of this post
>>343547187
Melee players*
Only Melee players were doing this shit. Jebailey even said he respected Smash 4 top players for talking calmly to him about any issues they had so he could improve it next year.
>>343550894
Learn what autism means first, /a/utist.
>tfw evo death pools
Not seeding pools is just some lazy shit
>>343550878
because it's a containment board
>>343548837
>>343548763
>Street Fighter players bitch about an inherent 8 frames of lag
>Smash players aren't allowed to bitch about getting 7 frames of lag from being forced to play a 480p game on a HDTV
???
>Jebailey
literally who
>>343550842
>>343550878
It lead to every other board being flooded with political shit while simultaneously welcoming in a flood of Tumblrite faggots who thought they were now welcome here.
>>343551038
I'm pretty sure if there are some weird things, they'll be fixed. I forget who said they'd go in and fix it themselves.
>>343551121
aka Bailey Jay
>>343551121
Fighting game players on /v/, ladies and gentlemen.
>>343551083
But it doesn't contain them.
>>343551252
So, nothing will change?
>>343549213
>this is what a comp. Sm4sh player looks like
>tfw you don't like the fgc and smash community but like playing the games
>>343551358
my dick is ready
>>343551121
He runs CEO, got triggered hard when Swedish Smash players pressured him to add more 3/5 sets since CEO has 2/3 up til like top 6 or some shit. Also apparently doubles are not at CEO 17, so while most people correctly just go "ok, CEO maybe not the best Melee tournament now", some get really aggressive in their demands and Jebailey's egotistic ass takes it incredibly personally and passive-aggressively complains about one SSBM player in particular. There's autism on both sides here unfortunately.
>>343551358
DELETE THIS
>>343551462
Good lad. That's what you're supposed to do.
>>343551337
Kill yourself.
>>343549464
>tfw sora smashfag because you had more fun in Brawl/Smash 4 due to finally having friends to play with
Because its not meant to be a serious game. Its a party game.
>>343551269
I'm pretty sure it's strictly no seeding until top 32, they would fix people dropping out but that is about it
Meaning you could get shit like westballz, axe armada and hungrybox in the same pool if they are unlucky
>>343551491
Found the smash autist lmao
Why is the smash community full of such angry, whiny, faggots?
>>343550058
>Isn't that due to lore reasons? Originally genji hated his robo ninja circumstance but after getting to know zenyatta he appreciates all that surrounds life.
Zenyatta helped him stop brooding before his condition but long before the injury Genji was a carefree guy that didn't give a fuck about being a ninja. Dude just wanted to have a good time so his entire family got super butthurt he didn't turn out to be an edgelord like his brother
>>343550646
that's a 30 year low, anon.
>>343551105
Where are you getting 7 frames of lag from?
Someone in the Smash community even tested a Wii with an HDMI converter on an EVO monitor and the converter added 2ms of lag, totaling 12ms of lag total. That's less than a frame (16ms).
It is funny to me that smashers will insist on CRTs even though people have already proven that many CRTs lag more than HDTVs.
>>343551643
>Why is the smash community full of such angry, whiny, faggots?
t. FGCuck
>>343551612
No, the top 32 players will be seeded, and Tafo said he would switch things around himself.
>>343551358
Xaltis is fucking nuts too and inserts the fact that she's trans into everything especially when it's not relevant.
Is it really true that Melee tournaments just give like 7 people free passes to top 32?
>>343551028
Having an opinion different than yours is not autism, nor is pointing out your behaviour autism.
Obsessively overreacting to opinions different than your own and categorizing all people who don't agree with you as one homogenous group because you lack any sort of ability to understand human behaviour is autism.
>>343551491
Melee doubles sucks anyway
>>343551612
There's absolutely no way that will happen. Seeding is a fundamental part of tournaments and I don't believe the biggest fighting game tournament ever would just overlook that.
There would be major backlash and I would wager that top players would refuse to play if there was a fucked up pool with Mango Armada Hbox all in it
>>343551823
https://twitter.com/tafokints/status/748906444494221312
>>343551643
Have you met Jebailey? He'd agree he's an egotist LOL. Some Smash players are acting autistic, it's true. That said, look at Jebailey's reaction to Twitter crying- he gives them exactly what they want by getting all angry and engaging with them. Why talk about stuff you're unfamiliar with?
>the autism of FGC
>multiplied by the autism of adult Nintendo fans
This could only ever end one way.
>Just want to talk about smash 4
>Smash 4 shitposters start talking about waifus, shitting on melee and 64 friends, talk about e-celebs, and never want to talk about the actual game
what the fuck wen't wrong?
>>343551926
>Having an opinion different than yours is not autism
other way around, senpai
>>343551862
>she
>>343549986
>this is why you like shonenshit instead of moeshit
What a bunch of fucking losers, holy shit.
>>343552164
they all hit puberty
>>343552164
Add my NNID: ItSoWizard
I need more firend to play Wii U with
So this... is the power.... of mods...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yySImSDwsxA
>>343551943
Yeah losing doubles is TOTALLY understandable given that CEO is essentially EVO Jr. That shit is packed time-wise and there's got to be a counterbalancing any decision that adds time to a game's tournament. I think though that they're just dropping doubles and keeping the somewhat lame lack of 3/5 til top 6 or something. Of course I'm disappointed about the changes, but CEO is still a hell of an event. Melee kind of sucked this year, but it was mainly just that a few great players dropped out last minute so it was less exciting and had brackets that were a huge mess- no reflection on the tournament itself though.
>>343549986
To be fair Berserk sucks shit.
>>343552164
stay fucked
and enjoy another round with autistic kroolfags and shantaecucks when Smash 5/4NX is announced next year
>>343547187
Guys, when you bully Smash players they sweat even more profusely than usual.
Please stop.
>>343551786
>reposting the same useless fucking image which was proven false by people actually watching it live/being there for it happening
t. 12yearoldSmashFan
>>343551786
Who would tell people to boo a delay? That doesn't make sense
Why would they cheer for melee in the middle of the award cememony? That doesn't make sense
>>343552551
>FGCfag damage control
t. FGCuck
>>343549584
>>343549452
/a/ loves JoJo, just not the anime.
>>343552496
>implying this animation is acceptable
>>343552551
>>343552612
You're both losers slinging shit on a mongolian ditch-digging forum
>>343552551
>FGCnigger calling anyone underage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTdQ7Xx4Q34
>>343552369
>somewhat lame lack of 3/5 til top 6 or something
no melee has top 16 bo3/5 and they are still bitching about not getting doubles as if they are the bell of the ball. CEO has existed forever without them and was never struggling without them, fucking alex should kick those faggots out due to their bullshit.
smash fags are the most entitled pieces of shit and actually makes me embarrassed i used to watch that shit
>>343552830
I think you're taking this to be the standard consensus among Melee players, which it isn't. The only vocal people about 3/5 top 32 are Leffen, who says that about every tournament that doesn't do what he wants (including fucking EVO), stream monsters who don't attend events anyway, and people who stand to benefit from not getting janked in 2/3. You're extremely deluded if you think Jebailey will lose a revenue source like Melee, and shortsighted if you think crying from a loud minority of the community represents how it in general feels.
I went to CEO, ama about all this drama about the crowd or anything about this shit
>>343553001
right, sorry. A Mongolian ditch-digging subreddit
>>343553218
https://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/749104322948898816
>>343553387
>subreddit
>>343553326
Which crowd had the worst overall stench?
>>343547680
You know you've gone full sperg when you need to highlight that it's the american smash group
>This thread
Thank god I'm a casual.
>>343553387
>""""subreddit""""
>>343553415
I actually mentioned Leffen by name in my post as the main shit-stirrer here. Did you have a point to make, or did you just want to provide information I'd already referenced?
>>343551904
They did it for Genesis 3. Interestingly enough, Smash 4 top players refused the motion.
But who knows for how many others they did it.
I lost respect for the top 32 that isn't in EVO.
>>343551961
Pools are where everyone has an equal footing. This seeding shit is less about the actual tournament and more for "muh top 16 hype".
Disgusting.
Everybody else in EVO goes through the pools, Top player or not. What makes Meleefags special?
Melee players are starting to hack their games in order to get wins now. This has been going on for weeks apparently.
>>343553218
>standard consensus among Melee players
except it is, the moment top 8 faggots start crying about it because smash fags cant form opinions for them selves and start mimicking what ever they say.
fucking no one wants to watch top 32 3/5, top 16 3/5 is too much already.
>Melee
>Revenue
all the money he gets for dealing with their bullshit goes into the venue and such for those whiny bitches, i'm sure dropping it in exchange for non of this bullshit would be way better. smashfags literally were booing during other games medal ceremonies and chanting melee
>>343553509
>hey anyone wanna play "For Fun"?
>*crickets chirping*
>>343553647
That's literally the only example ever recorded though.
>>343553647
his imaginary friend connor forced him to so that though
>>343553647
This is why you don't use 20xx
>>343553623
>But who knows for how many others they did it.
G3 was the only time it's ever happened.
>>343553623
what are you on about? I didn't say anywhere that melee players should be able to skip pools altogether. I said it should be properly seeded so you don't get top players playing eachother in R1 pools
>>343553712
The only one that was caught.
>>343553647
>Melee players are starting to hack their games in order to get wins now.
proof? or some left in 20XX in the memory card.
>>343553647
Something should have been fishy when the guy asks to play on only one setup the whole day
>>343547187
>>343547187
The bit about pools might have a point.
But I don't know how these events work, do they have a global ranking agreed upon by the tournament runners/a partner?
Do you have to qualify to get into pools, or is it just a case of signing up?
>>343553925
some retard buffed the worst character in the game, and people noticed because it's obvious as fuck when the worst character suddenly becomes good.
It's some mentally ill sperglord at a rinky-dink local so it's not a scene-wide issue. This is the first time anyone's done it afaik
>>343553459
In terms of the main hall with the ring every crowd was about the same and none of them smelled bad, was in there for both smashes, tekken, and checked in on a few others. The worst smell was in the smash room for pools on Friday ,but in their defense the room had very little space for setups, wasn't that big to begin with, and it was overcrowded to the point where spectators had to be kicked out. Plus the AC just couldn't keep up so nearly everyone was sweaty. Worst part was that pokken was right in the middle of the room and had more than enough space, even on Friday when it was just friendlies while both smash games pools were going on.
>>343554012
are we posting these now?
>>343553695
Well, now it's clear you don't know what you're talking about- even read the fucking comments on the very link you posted. Most of the other top players want 3/5 too, but understand the situation, know Jebailey well and have a feel for the realities of tournament organizing. Fuck, look at the comments on the other thing you posted where Jebailey posted the message about how they didn't need CEO. I know it's /v/, so opinion = fact to you, but you clearly don't really know what you're talking about. Also, Smash revenue going to the venue is patently retarded; there are separate venue and entry fees, as well as stream views, advertising, etc.
>>343554178
Guess so...
>>343553894
So, acknowledging it's the only one there's any evidence for, why do you believe it's been going on for weeks? Am I gonna have to walk you through the whole process of how to make a claim on the internet?
>>343553647
Is this technically dopping
>>343554183
lol
you dont know shit kiddo
go back to eating shit and playing competitive fscher price
>>343554147
>some retard buffed the worst character in the game
who is it?
>and people noticed because it's obvious as fuck
>obvious
how about some evidence?
was their any differences to Pichu's damage and speed or something in the match?
>>343554329
I fucked you're mum
>>343554270
>>343554312
There's vods of the hacked matches on twitch from weeks ago. People are just now noticing it.
>>343554508
Hitboxes were the most obvious change as far as I saw in comments, particularly giving him a dtilt with godlike range.
>Meleefags deflecting to Smash 4
>Again
Why? I'm honestly asking why every single time Melee starts to get shit from the FGC smash 4 shitposting begins.
>spamming the thread with melee hell content
the meleefag desperation is kicking in
>>343553985
Anyone can sign up for pools. Everyone in the community knows the good players, but for the fgc at least pools are great because unknowns have beaten top players in pools and it makes things way more interesting.
That's why other fighting game people scoff at the idea of skipping pools.
>>343550538
Which was unfair because /sp/ was the board that revealed moot's cuckness
>>343554641
LOL I definitely need to see that then. Poor PGH, fitting that it would be so grimy.
>>343547912
This is realistic, because everybody that supports fighting games is retarded.
>>343554508
How about a fucking confession? is that enough spoonfeeding for today, or would you like me to burp you as well?
>>343554717
twitter whining is boring
>>343554863
Farage is a faggot with a really punchable face
>>343554745
Both sides have a point here, but the cons of giving such precedence to top players outweigh the pros IMO. The whole point of a tournament is competitive play; if there's even the appearance of impropriety in how players are treated it leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
>>343554951
>>>/reddit/
>>343554951
>I can't think on my own and have to regurgitate what HBO comedy news hosts say
>>343554717
sorry senpai
you want some SF Purgatory memes
>>343555002
>>343555040
I was just trying to post fast enough to be after >>343554863
His face really is punchable though
>>343549986
Last comment is right tho
Why is it so difficult to talk about melee on /v/?
I don't understand the need to strawman and shitpost constantly
>>343549667
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ykAXB3JFy4
>>343555048
>shoryu that mufuccin like button nigga
>>343555354
>Why is it so difficult to talk about melee on /v/?
nice joke bobbeh
Melee fags complain theyre not FGC but cause shit and thuggary at FGC events.
Fuck Melee fags let your mistake of a game die already. Dont boo players during their time to shine fucking autistic manchildren
>>343555354
Dangit Bobby, no this isn't true. There's usually good threads on a regular basis. Y'know, the ones that just have a period and the game's cover.
>>343555354
fuck off bobby
>>343555354
Because meleefags strawman and shitpost everyone else
>>343555334
>>343555354
Like pottery
>>343555354
This boy ain't right
>>343547680
that would be true IF THE FGC DID NOT KICK THEM OUT BEFORE.
smash kids promised to be good this time and now there back to their old antics, luckily we do not use crts anymore for games or they would be stealing them for smash
>>343554697
like you said, it's deflection.
>n-no stop bullying us, get them instead! They're slow and casual!
>tr4sh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2FPh1w4VG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-iW7nUV_o
>brawl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vMiKtp3-GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvpJvi5xIj4
>Memelee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU7G-A4D4nA
>>343554938
lol how full of shit can q beta be famalam
>>343551358
Who is this CUTIE
>>343554946
all of those guys besides pp are extremely autistic and Tbh look worse than the average FGC player
>>343555629
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-iW7nUV_o
>True Blue does shit like this
>Whines that he's not allowed to be on stream anymore
>>343555354
everyone is afraid to try netplay so it ends up being mostly eceleb discussion or "hey how do I practice this tech"
I have a lot of fun stories from free-for-alls/event matches as a kid but I feel like /v/ has shifted away from being interested in that sort of stuff
>>343549671
yeah last time they left they begged to come back you know
>>343555354
>make talking about fighting games and going to fgc events a fucking pain because you autists are always there fucking up things with your smell and autism
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW WHY IS IT DIFFICULT TO BE WITH US
>>343550240
>In the gutter
Still miles better than the 'MurifatDollar
>>343555508
They shit on everyone non-stop and yet they have a huge persecution complex where they feel like everyone is out to get them. They're the Sonyggers of Smash fans.
>>343555508
Where though?
For some reason there is a hivemind on /v/ that will defend the casualization of brawl and sm4sh to death so we usually stay in our containment threads so as not to deal with having the same tired arguments over and over. And even staying in melee centric threads doesn't even work that well in that regard
>>343555819
Cis scum postin' here.
>>343555727
Also this.
>>343555819
im down
>>343555819
None of the possibilities are as bad as being a meleefag
>>343554697
because fighting games are slowly dying, so it's back to shitposting about which popular Character Action games are better
>>343555727
customs were a mistake.
>>343548383
I wish people would stop saying that Sm4shfags are K.Roolfags.
While they already are autistic, K.Roolfags manage to bring out a new special brand of autism, especially when they teamed up with Ridleyfags
This thread is cancer
Kek
>>343552751
Is that the new one? Wasn't there already a Berserk anime that was perfectly acceptable?
>>343555939
>when have Meleefag ever done anything wrong? We just want to talk about how shit Smash 4 and Brawl are and how Melee players are the only true competitive players and everything else is trash
0 self awareness.
>>343556134
>I wish people would stop saying that Sm4shfags are K.Roolfags.
okay
Sm4shfags are autistic Bandana Dee fags and Shantaecucks
nothing more autistic than obsessing over a multiplayer-oriented goomba or mediocre indie title
>>343552751
im such a berserk nerd that i dont even care about the 10fps. It'll get fixed in blurays and im gonna buy them all and the musou game.
Its been years since berserk had time in the spotlight and I cant resist throwing money at murata
>>343556292
>Sm4shfags are always all those fags that bitch about their character not getting in
You could have just boiled it down to that, I mean its still wrong but hey, it conveys everything without having to add more names to the list.
>>343556134
>especially when they teamed up with Ridleyfags
but they broke up :(
and ridleyfags moved in with the hacking community while K.roolers (or Banjoshitters) whine how everything isn't cartoony and wacky like in the N64 days.
>>343554938
is this real
>>343556275
Nice strawman
>>343547187
More like, "Why is OP such an autistic sperglord"
"Part 2"
kys
>>343556292
>nothing more autistic than obsessing over a multiplayer-oriented goomba
DELET
DELET THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>343556231
>LUIGI IS JUST GREEN MARIO LMAO
fuck off with your reddit-tier humor that's been done a million times
>>343556632
You literally just did that exact thing.
>>343555171
Sasuce?
>>343556729
>"Why is OP such an autistic sperglord"
SH*T UP!!!!!!
Hasn't the Street Fighter community had issues with MLG before?
>>343554946
You know your community is autistic when you make a picture like this
>>343555725
abate is actually more attractive than anyone in the FGC though
>>343555508
>Dat strawman right off the fucking bat
>>343556984
>"this picture triggers me."
t. FGCuck
>>343557169
what's the story of this?
>>343555819
rollan' rollar famalam!
>>343557169
Based Viscant
>>343556984
No, that means they're gay.
>>343555819
test
>>343557279
You need to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH6dfof5B0Q
>>343557279
Wild nigger talked mad shit about the white guy and the white guy beat the nigger at his own game. Said white guy doesn't even play that particular game.
White guy starts talking mad shit and nigger flips out into monkey mode.
>>343556832
Where
>>343555727
>I won't lie, this is actually pretty hype
I'm hoping this was sarcasm.
>>343557279
LowTierGod (black guy) is infamous for talking tons of trash and blaming the game for him being shit.
After some twitter shit-talking Viscant (white guy) and LTG had a grudge match in SF4.
Viscant (despite not playing SF4 in ages and really not being competitive in fighting games anymore along with SF4 being LTG 's main game) won and then LTG tried acting all tough even though he got bodied.
tl;dr LowTierGod is human garbage and got BTFO by some guy who didn't even play SF4.
>>343555939
>For some reason there is a hivemind on /v/ that will defend the casualization of brawl and sm4sh to death
Smash is a casual fighter. It was specifically designed to be baby's first fighter. It's made to be as accessible to everyone. It is the literal antithesis to hardcore fighting games. Hell, you probably got into the game as a kid for that very reason, besides just the fact that Link, Samus and Pikachu are in it.
You're seriously complaining about Smash being casualized. You might as well go to Chuck E Cheese and complain that there's not enough rocks in the ball pit.
>>343557434
Fucking pure gold.
>>343555819
I have to know
>>343557681
/v/ Yet again with the retarded analogies.
>>343557681
I don't think you realize just how complex Melee is.
Generalizing it as 'just some kids party game' is foolish, and it makes you sound as stupid as people who dismiss any type of video game as 'a stupid game for kids'
>>343553706
>Not playing by yourself against 3 level 10 bots
>>343558030
Here we go with the "melee is complex" shit. You really think anyone outside of melee cares that you can wavedash?
>>343557681
>Smash is a casual fighter. It was specifically designed to be baby's first fighter. It's made to be as accessible to everyone. It is the literal antithesis to hardcore fighting games.
while that, Melee was made to be an advanced rendition of 64; a Smash for people who are well-versed in video games, as Sakurai intended outside his direction for future Smash games.
of course, people apologizing smash's future direction (see >>343558568) will discard this as "le pretty glitchy mistake" and speak for Sakurai instead to discourage people who enjoy playing Melee.
>>343555819
Rollerriono
>>343558652
>(non-bait edition).png
is there a bait version?
>>343556140
You say that like this is a new fact...
>>343558568
Here we go with the "I'm gonna complain about how easy and simple melee is, yet ignore the basic principles that make it difficult and complex"
So what is it? you say melee is babbies first fighting game, then close your ears and shut your eyes when there's many things that make it faster and more technical than sleep fighter and other traditional fighting games
You have nothing of value to say, so just shut the fuck up
>>343548553
>muh dick
>muh dick
>muh dick
Niggers really are walking memes.
YO SAFE WEED
>>343558652
While I agree that at the time of Brawl's release, Melee was the sharpest game in the series in terms of speed and mechanics. But there's no way you could possibly think that Sakurai intended for Smash to be played at Melee's competitive level or directly referring to that in that interview. It was always designed to be a party game; Melee was simply made with previous Smash players in mind first.
>>343548553
To be honest, I wouldn't mind having a beer with him.
>Professional smash players
>Being professional at a childrens game
Might as well say you're a professional Overwatch or HotS player.
>>343548553
>cuckholds
>cuckholds
>cuckholds
Fucking nigger.
>>343559257
What's wrong with going pro now?
>>343559159
>But there's no way you could possibly think that Sakurai intended for Smash to be played at Melee's competitive level
Yet it is, and here we are.
It doesn't even matter if 'barbie's first horse' ended up having some of the best competitive gameplay mechanics ever seen. People would still play it, even if the developers didn't intend it to be played that way
You're acting like posting "sakurai didn't intend melee to be competitve" over and over is actually going to do anything. Obviously he didn't expect people to waveshine peach across the stage or wobble people from 0% to death. But pointing that out ad infititum isn't going to make Armada and M2K drop the game
What's wrong with going pro in Yu-gi-oh now?
>>343559159
>But there's no way you could possibly think that Sakurai intended for Smash to be played at Melee's competitive level
he never did and i never said tjos
it's just for Melee, just because he wanted to.
>>343559463
>pro
shiggydiggy famalam
>>343559463
Some expect the same level of treatment as pro sports players, without having the renown or fame that precedes it.
>>343559681
And complaining that a game designed to be casual is becoming more casual won't do anything either. You forget that this is what I was originally pointing out. Yes, Barbie's First Horse COULD be the most competitive game ever designed, but you'd be stupid to think that it was meant to be or that they'd go for the tourney-goers rather than the little girls that buy Barbie shit.
>>343559059
Amount of buttons you press = deep and complex game
Just like how the size of an open world game = quality of the game :^)
>>343548939
>Ricky Ortiz is a tranny
Gosh, I HAVE been gone a long time.
>>343559463
Going "pro" with a childs game is pathetic. It just demonstrates how unwilling to learn something hard and complicated is and don't want to leave their comfort zone.
Why move to Street Fighter and learn all those complicated mechanics when you can play Smash and just hold A and get all kinds of wins?
>>343560003
Didn't Ricky and TS Sabin have sex once?
>>343555857
>not realizing that the USD is the global reserve currency
the way international banking is set up every time there is a crisis everyone freaks out and buys treasury bonds. USA literally profits when the shit hits the fan
>>343559950
>t. shitposter
1) I never said anything about how many buttons are being pressed/apm, but thanks for showing your ignorance
2) Stay on topic you meme-loving fuck. why are you bringing up irrelevant info about other games that nobody has mentioned?
I just downloaded Smash for my 3DS
What the fuck is a Dtilt lads?
Smash is made for competition! Let me disable every item, allow you not to play some characters and ban 90% of the stages first though.
>>343559117
>>343559398
>he doesn't know LTG is /pol/'s #1 poster
>>343560642
It's a tourneyfag glitch, don't bother.
>>343560085
>people actually think this
>>343559947
Nobody saying that it was meant to be that way it just kind of happened on accident. And thats good that it happened because we got a great game with levels of depth to it that alowed me to come back to melee in 2013 after not having played since I was a kid and still enjoy it in ways that I didn't think were possible when I was a kid. I try to go back to play brawl now and it's impossible for me to enjoy it without playing it with items on whereas melee can be entertaining as both a silly party game and a serious fighter.
All that brawl and sm4sh did was take out the ability for serious play, or at least try there hardest to deter it, lord knows people have still found it enjoyable to play sm4sh competitively whereas i'm unable to.
>>343560205
I heard this too. Not sure if true.
Because they're hardcore players of casual party games for children.
>>343548383
This has to be machine generated.
>>343560645
Items are RNG (competitive cancer), no characters are banned in Melee, and most stages have gimmicky hazards, walls that lead to infinite combos or are way too large to have 2v2 fights
of course members of the FGC can't fathom a game being different than street fighter so I know these concepts are completely foreign to you. It's like someone who likes football complaining that the rules of baseball should changed to be more like football
>>343560642
it's like a clit, but for women.
>>343560642
It's what the name implies.
>>343555819
Sm4sh is objectively a better game than melee.
Also rolling.
>>343561294
Except literally any other fighting game doesnt require half of the features of the game to be disabled before it becomes anywhere near viable, even then you've got absurd shit like retarded hitboxes, RNG stage features and shitty balance that ruin the game, but you autists insist on not only playing it (which is fine in itself, plenty of bad games are played competitively), but insist on it being a main stage event that should be prioritized above all other games as again emphasized by this recent drama.
Not to even begin to get into how terrible and autistic the Melee community is. There is good reason Melee is hated.
Accept that your community is cancer, your game isnt exactly that great and stop defending this shit, it just makes you look even worse. Im not even asking you to stop loving smash, just stop being so fucking autistic all the time god damn
I never thought I'd see Esam talking sense into armada
>>343561925
http://evo.shoryuken.com/additional-rules/
Compare the EVO rules of Smash games to literally any other game in the lineup. Shit's ridiculous.
>>343561925
lol.
in SF4 they only played on training stage for years because the others lagged.
"retarded hitboxes and shitty balance" are something in every fighting game. melee is better than average with almost half of the cast being viable
melee is mechanically the best fighting game ever made, no two ways about it, there's a reason it's still being played.
>>343562008
Sounds like Depression.
>>343561925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V_77TIZUUA
>>343562520
It think it's more that a bright man with a degree of self-respect has now realised that his career is playing a party game very well. Armada seems like somebody who could become more than this and he's realising this now he's at the top
>>343547187
And they still aren't dropping it, even when the game isn't bringing enough money as it is. I feel like at this point, it would be better to just eat the initial bitching for letting it go instead of dealing with this drama forever.
>>343561925
thanks for confirming that you can't even imagine a game being different than a traditional 2d fighter. You complain about banning stages, then complain about RNG stage features (on stages that are ALREADY BANNED) and it's not like melee has perfectly balanced moves/hitboxes, nor does literally any game in existence (i'll remind you of SFII Sagat)
And I'll agree that the Melee community is a bunch of whiny autists (especially the last few months) i'm ashamed to share a scene with, they want way more than they deserve.
But just being a hard-headed fuck, and completely ignoring the fact there's obviously something great about this 15 year-old game that make thousands of people still want to play it today. Just makes you look as whiny and bitter as the 'smash autists' my man
>>343562008
More than a decade of the same stages, the same people, the same fights and the same hand-destroying Fox does take its toll
>>343562484
1)Some stages in SF4 lagged sure, but the stages were exactly the same in gameplay terms and have no impact on gameplay, this is not true for Melee, the stage select screen can make of break some characters.
2)If you think hitboxes like this >>343554715 are standard in other fighting games you are retarded
3)"melee is mechanically the best fighting game ever made, no two ways about it, there's a reason it's still being played." The duration a game is played isnt linked to its quality, WoW is still the biggest MMO after over 12 years and i wouldnt exactly call that a quality game.There are many factors that make smash melee popular, its THE childhood nostalgia game as one of the few good gamecube games, its full of iconic characters and its very accessible/easy to play (i dont care about muh skill ceiling, the skill floor is very low). To argue that Melee is your "favourite" fighting game is fine, but its flawed on so many levels that to claim it "the best of all time forever and always" is beyond autistic and grossly arrogant. Which are the two main characteristics that make the Melee community so insufferable.
>>343561290
you need to visit GameFAQS Smash boards during the hype week sometimes
>>343563289
I'm not involved in your conversation at all, but why are you listing low skill floor as a factor in anything at all tournament related? Besides that, the fact that you need so badly to classify away a game you don't like while at the same time accusing ITS fanbase of autism is sadly ironic.
>>343563054
I guess you're not familiar with Armada? You know the first time he showed off his Fox in an American major was less than a year and a half ago, right?
>Smashfag try to say they aren't autistic
Shit like this continues to prove otherwise:
http://pastebin.com/7YV9CfQS
This is the public journal of a famous smash player Chudat, called the Chudat Chronicles. It is the most autistic reading ever.
>Mew2King
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Smasher:Mew2King
Look up anything about him. His Japan adventure is the best. Dude is full on autistic
Here's one of a guy named Poyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEJvshbxwik
I can keep finding shit. My point is...
SMASHFAGS ARE AUTISTIC.
For fucks sake, I used to be one. Old Tournyfag here.
>>343563702
The low skill floor makes the game accessible to new players, hence more players, more interest, more participants and viewers etc etc. I thought that was obvious but well, you know, I forget /v/ is retarded.
Im not trying to classify a game away as point out that it isnt some amazing, 10/10 perfect and amazing game as smash autists keep saying it is, and this unfortunatly has to be done becasue melee retards are the most uppity entitled bunch of autists in existance and they directly shit up the fighting game events i attend and watch, hearing a bunch of pasty dipshits booing a grand finals im trying to watch has a direct impact on me. This all stems from their entitlement and needless selfworth over playing a 15 year old party game.
How does MrLz make you feel, anon
>>343559128
WAGWANWEEONE
>>343564415
good to see new prodigies emerge
>>343564003
>3 players are the whole community
Do you think you're blowing minds by saying that the professional scene of a videogame has spergs or are you really that retarded? I know plenty of autists in the SF scene.
The thing I hate the most about people criticizing melee is that they seem to criticize it as though sakurai & co. sat down when they made it and said "k guys we're going to create a platform, physics-based fighter that's going to be the competitor to Street Fighter, it will have high skill floors, many advanced techniques and will have an elite playerbase"
They made a game with fun multiplayer fighting, featuring recognizable characters, and that was their goal. it just happened to also have the potential to be a fast paced competitive game.
Yet everyone states obvious dumb shit like "LOL where's the health bar, and my precious crossups and option selects. WAIT you have to ban stages and turn items off!?!?! It's like the game isn't called Street Fighter or something!"
>>343564073
So you're a GG fan then? I can understand why you're so salty in that case, it must suck to watch a game so often relegated to side events and rushed through as a second-class game. That said, anyone saying Melee is "perfect" is an idiot, as is anyone who says something is perfect. It's hyperbole. Part of not being autistic is understanding that when people say things, they're not always being totally literal.
What the fuck happen now? Did Melee kiddies boo a real actual fighting game again?
>>343564003
who are you talking to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6rWlNbDIEU
>they're being too loud
Smashfags are literally the refugees of fighting games.
>>343555819
leggo
>>343565008
nobody was complaining about how loud they were, they were actually having a bit of a laugh about it you antagonistic fuck
>>343564736
Something about some Bipolar kid only playing on a spongebob tv
>>343564736
That and some top players had a bitchfit over CEO not catering to their needs for VIP areas and hand-warming stations
>>343565008
I think that Smash players should organize their own tournaments, if they get so many entrants and whatnot.
Maybe they could start their own community too. Call it the Children's Party Game Community.
>>343556119
sonic in general was a mistake
>>343563289
>characters having advantages on some stage is a bad thing
Counterpicking exists for a reason.
>>343564665
Melee has crossups and option selects though. And health if you choose to play stamina mode.
>>343564651
>3 players are the whole community
>Ignoring the countless other post pointing out autistic players
Found the Smash Sperg.
For every 1 autistic True fighting games player, there are 5 Smash Autist.
>L-Canceling in Melee
Smashfags will defend this.
What's all this booing about? Does anyone have a video of it, since I can't find it.
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Are there any good Mexican Smashers?
>>343565958
I don't know whether you're doing it intentionally, but your directionless ranting makes you look like you have the tisms.
The namefagging is another tell
>>343565675
You know they have shitloads of smash only events, right?
>>343566267
Javi and Eddie Mexico for Melee. Eddy Mexico is arguably the best Luigi in the world
MK Leo and Hyuga for Sm4sh
>>343566267
second best luigi in the world (some will say best)
also best smash 4 toon link
>>343566332
Good, then they don't need to come to EVO, right? Especially if they don't respect other games.
>>343563289
1) what's your point? the game was literally designed for the player to be able to turn stages on and off in the menu. stages impacting gameplay is a good thing, like marth players can go to FD for uninterrupted chaingrabs or samus players go to PS for better missile zoning. it gives certain characters more viability than they would have otherwise.
2) nothing wrong with that hitbox, learn the range.
3) WoW frequently gets updated you fucking retard, and melee has the highest skill floor of any fighter (you have to learn L-cancelling for all of your aerials on whiff, hit, and block before being able to do anything. which is a lot simpler than learning how to spam hadoken or a simple bnb).
yes, it's the best fighting game, study up on its mechanics and you'll quickly see how its depth and technical ceiling is unparalleled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9sa8133NBI
>>343559117
>>343559398
can't handle the bantz?
>>343566539
>literally wanting to force games out of events because you dislike them
There will be plenty of streams, friend. Calm down and have a Brain Gear. Let me know if you can convince Mr Wizard not to have Melee on deck though, considering it had 2nd most views last year.
>>343556915
No Idea, just got it from a fellow smash /v/eekender.
>>343566881
Who even says I'm trying to convince anyone of anything? Just seems like Smash players have this mindset of >>343566674
So my suggestion is simply that they should fuck off and take their game with them if they're too good to share the floor with others.
>>343566674
wew
>>343565569
>hand-warming stations
what?
Why do smash players suck their top players dicks so much
The whole scene just seems like one big cult of personality
>>343567347
it's where you put your hands down on a cushion and a really fat guy sits on your hands so they aren't cold when you go on.
>>343567314
get tech trapped you shitter
>>343567347
Basically a set-up to get your hands limber before your match starts.
I'm not sure why people want a dedicated set-up for that since I'm sure there must be friendlies stations up somewhere.
>>343567548
because their fans come up to them and ask for autographs/selfies 24/7
>>343567181
I don't think that guy, or nearly any other Melee fanboy, let alone the actual players, minds "sharing the floor" at all. He doesn't seem to understand what a skill floor actually means, but you're essentially suggesting the entire community should decouple from other fighting games because some of the people in the crowd are stupid dickholes swept up in pack mentality. That's not a real solution either.
>>343567448
It's because of the documentary. The scene got way bigger based on that bunch of e-celeb aggrandizement so many of the new players are wrapped up in a cult of personality just like you say. It also doesn't help with that aspect that many of the influential casters take cues from pro wrestling to pursue character-based narratives.
>attending local brawl tournaments
>melee scene is in life support
>we had a set up for melee players
>all day would constantly trash talk brawl
>would frequently trash talk the final matches as we were trying to build hype
I guess we only really had ourselves to blame for being pushover and not telling them to fuck off
>>343567548
They don't want to deal with their autistic fans
>>343567813
>brawl
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Damn I want something like this
>>343567704
>minds "sharing the floor" at all
Behavior from the Smash community at recent events would suggest otherwise. Which is precisely why this thread is even here.
It's simple. You respect other games while they're playing, let the people have their fun, and respect the TOs.
>>343567813
At least say it was project m or something.
>>343568105
Which behavior? The OP post is Jebailey complaining about people giving constructive criticism because he's a fucking idiot.
>>343566081
Higher APM == better game, that's why everyone should play chess while juggling their opponents' captured pieces, riding a unicycle and balancing the game board while it's spinning on their nose.
>>343568105
Can we at least drop the term smash community and just call them the melee community?
They are the only offenders.
>>343568246
>constructive criticism
that's not what any of that is. it's a bunch of babies crying because they're being treated like everyone else there. show some fucking respect for the venue, and shit doesn't change just because you're a special snowflake who needs special attention.
>>343566081
>>343568265
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/4cc3g6/5_years_later_and_im_still_super_salty/d1jfny7
>>343568272
Fair enough.
>>343568246
Booing other games during their finals and generally being disruptive while waiting for their game's sets to start.How is Jebailey being a fucking idiot? Seems like top Melee players need to fucking man up.Fucking hand-warming stations? Really, nigga?
>>343568504
so FGCucks are content with shit events? glad we have Leffen to tell Jebailey how it is
>>343568629
>Booing other games during their finals
nice meme, that never happened. guy with a mic said "are you ready for melee" and the crowd responded
>>343548719
better yet anyone got a webm of bailey jay getting btfo by a huge cock
>>343566674
You obviously never played a guilty gear game before if you think any form of smash has high skill ceiling. Hell animation canceling tech action mmos like bdo blow any smash and most fighting games out of the water. You're basing your argument as if melee is the highest skill ceiling game in fighter or action in general.
When there's already a plethora of fighters and action that blow it out of the water in technical skill. You're trying to make an argument in favor of a 15 year old designer party game blow back from the early 2000s when late 80 fighters had more technical skill.
You're the reason why fighting games aren't discussed on this board and only blown out drama from FGC is the time in which you shit post.
>>343547363
jason get off /v/ i dont want you to get cancer like john
>>343567649
>>343567873
Then they can tell their fans that to chill until you finish your set or the tournament.
Getting your controller signed by some top player that you dick-suck immensely for whatever reason can fucking wait.
God, the top player fanboy-ism shit really needs to either stop or get toned the fuck down, because not only does that make the fans obnoxious, its going to start going to the player's heads, and that is the last fucking thing we need.
>>343548939
'Remilia' successful.
Basketcase who had a team not be able to get rid of the fuckstick fast enuogh.
If Smashfags truly think they're so important, why don't they make their own tournament and fuck out of the FGC?
>>343547187
Is the last part really true? If it is Smash is objectively a shit game community wise.
>Want to get into fighting games
>Realize that the entire fighting game community is nothing but autistic asians and rowdy black people
>Sigh and go back to my casual games
>>343568752
>crying because you want to skip pools
>crying because no personal warm-up station
>crying because you don't like the payouts at events you don't even participate in
>crying because no one wants to set up your autism TV
go back to smash boards, people will actually care about how "poorly" the fgc treats you.
>>343569016
You think people that autistic can gather without others work? They need FGC tournaments because even if Smash is bigger they're too autistic to set up a gathering themselves.
>>343568105
As far as asking for 3/5, etc, that's not unreasonable at all, but Twitter is the absolute worst fucking place to have that conversation and lo and behold, it didn't work out well. As far as booing GG medals, that shit is unacceptable, and literally every community figurehead that has mentioned it is trying to quash that kind of shit (chanting "Melee" during finals has been shown to be response to an emcee and just overall shit communication between stream teams/emcees/TOs). And handwarming stations- you realize there are literally two Swedecuck top players that are the only mainline support for this, right? If the tournament can't offer them, that's actually never been a reason given for why someone didn't attend an event. As far as disrespect goes, I agree that it is a cancer given life by people who don't even play the game. That said, ripping into a whole community in a completely non-critical way does nothing but worsen relations between communities which, like it or not, are linked and will continue to remain so. If you see that shit at a tournament, say something about it. However, acting like it's the norm is not constructive or even correct.
>>343569195
It's like all of the smash fanbase is from r9k tier of total autistic shit.
>>343569060
2-3 top players are big whiners who want people to lay out the red carpet for them, keep fans away, have private game stations, and skip R1 pools. But the majority of the scene isn't this entitled and delusional
>>343562008
>Don't want to play pools because I'm too tired.
Jesus Christ, Melty players had to go through pools and play the finals outside in the dead of winter due to a fire alarm. while meleefags bitch about pools.
Meleefags are such entitled cunts.
>STILL whining
>>343568894
>You obviously never played a guilty gear game before
nigger ac+r or xrd right now, i need to break in my new qanba q4 anyway
>Hell animation canceling tech action mmos like bdo blow any smash
ok, we're talking about fighting games tho
>You're basing your argument as if melee is the highest skill ceiling game in fighter
it is
>When there's already a plethora of fighters and action that blow it out of the water in technical skill
why are you bringing other genres into this? i play dmc4 at a high level, it is indeed technical, but nothing dante can pull off is as difficult as multishining
>when late 80 fighters had more technical skill
wrong
>>343555629
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU7G-A4D4nA
>this is wack as fuck
>hella wack
>cheesiest fuckin set ever
>this is fuckin cheese, bro
>this is stupid as fuck
Smash has good commentators because they're real
>>343569016
>smash doesn't have its own tournaments
FGCucks are too retarded to use google i see
keep playing you trashy autocombo gimmick games
>>343569335
nigger i'm all for melee, but if you think multishining is the pinnacle of fighting game tech you're crazy.
It's a rhythmic pressing of two (2) buttons, yeah you have to do it quickly, but it's fucking muscle memory (not to mention more than 2 shines is almost always unnecessary)
>>343568118
>>343567910
This was back when project m wasn't even remotely playable, around 09 or so.
But the game is irrelevant, when you are someones guest and are housing your little gathering when your community is dying, the least you could do is keep your mouth shut during finals.
SF4 came out that same year and there was a small crossover, oddly same with Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, but you never heard this people shitting on smash.
>>343562883
Armada would be god-tier at SF.
reminder that smash players have their mothers drive them to tournaments and bitch about what cosplayers are wearing
How does one pronounce "FGCuck?"
>>343569282
>more 3/5s
Agreed, totally acceptable to request that change. But it also needs to be understood that the TOs only have the venue for so long, and there needs to be some adherence to a schedule if at all possible.
>response to an MC
Again, fair enough. Very shitty and unfortunate communication.
Just sick of Melee being put on a pedestal, to be frank. We're just here to hit some fucking buttons and waggle our sticks at each other like a bunch of faggots, so why would anyone expect exceptions to be made for them?
>>343569195
>>343569315
>>343569060
There are literally like 3 top players who are asking for pool skipping/warmup stations. As far as payouts, some people complained about the split, not the pool. And really, Jebailey is totally fucking ass-pulling about the TVs- not only is he not in charge of setups nor has to provide any, the reasons why CRTs are preferred is incredibly apparent.
>>343569780
ye multishining was a bad example, it's entry level tech . there is much more difficult shit in melee.
>>343569812
I wasn't talking about him doing more esports faggotry. Regardless of the game, you're still playing a fucking videogame for money. In my eyes, people whose only career is playing videogames are pretty low down on the rungs of society.
>>343569315
It's one guy anon. Everyone who plays melee didn't petition armada to make this tweet.
>>343570132
lmfao shut up wagecuck
stop sperging out over people doing what they love for a living
>>343569905
you input lag complaint was already put to rest earlier in this very thread. you're right, smash is no more cancerous than the rest of the fgc. and those "top players" poison the whole well. it makes you all look like autistic sperglords and, well, whenever I see a melee tourney all I see are autistic sperglords. it's not too hard to believe that they all act like total faggots at these events.
>>343570315
He's not wrong though. It's going to be a very long time before anyone cares about or respects professional gamers outside of the hobby.
>>343570315
>wagecuck
Hahaha fuck off back to /r9k/
And it isn't sperging to think less of professional joystick fiddlers. Hbox at the very least has that Engineering degree and Biz is a Lawyer. Delusional manchildren like yourself only serve as an economic drain, and the same goes to all the young men who think they can live off of playing videogames forever.
>>343569872
I think those that are actually demanding these things are near-universally seen as divas in the larger Smash community (seriously, just look at how people view Leffen- everyone loved him when he was a shit stirrer, but when he just whines everyone hates him). Schedulewise I totally agree, and many have suggested things like lowering stock count to allow for 3/5, etc. That said, Twitter is still bound to generate fucktardedness forever if you open it up to a public discussion limited to text message-length posts, so it's terrible for having any sort of conversation where tension is likely. So easy to misunderstand or misword your shit, or seem like an idiot in an easily-clippable and linkable format. I agree that Melee fans sometimes can be pompous, and I think a lot of it stems from this mindset of being ostracized from the FGC at large. If everyone questions the validity of your games, some of the fans are likely to be insecure and eager to legitimize things that other people just don't have to because no one asks any questions, and given that Melee has quite a few truly deep and unique elements to its high-level play, this leads people to make hyperbolic claims about what "REAL" fighting games are and qualifying that in stupid ways. All that aside though, as long as you just honestly like fighting games and can appreciate hype without trying to justify one point or another about games you don't even play, I feel like we can all get along here.
>>343570804
who cares? they're still travelling the world, competing in physically and mentally intensive esports and making bread
>>343570812
back to work wagie, better suck up to your boss if you want that raise ;)
>>343553447
who are the two devils with the kanker sisters
>>343570142
>Yesterday it was just only Leffen
>now Armada is saying the same shit
>"It's only one!"
I believe this guy>>343569905 that it's only a handful of top players, but considering Meleefags inclination to Dickride said top players to hell and back to defend such shitty ass behavior.
I'm surprised and disappointed in Armada.
Leffen? He always talks shit, but Armada of all people?
Pretty disappointing.
Jebailey has to defend his shit tournament
>>343570721
If you honestly expect the community in general to own up to some stupid shit a couple of Swede fags say you're an idiot. You want people coming up to you every time someone with some internet cred says something stupid? That's unreasonable, and you know it, but people are only concerned with confirming their ideas.
>>343571162
I think Armada might have depression, just based on his sort of decline over the last few months. Seems like this always happens to him after he hits #1 for a bit.
>>343547187
>Muh concerted mass effort to swing view on the smash community
Fuck off /fgg/ we know what you're up to. Pure /vg/ autism.
>>343571239
Is it only Melee players that have been calling CEO shit? Did Smash 4 players have any complaints?
>>343571452
Man that's fucking rough, I hope he takes a break after EVO.
>>343558568
Now how many people bought Melee back in 2001 because you can Wavedash and Shine and Wobble and whatever else?
Nobody, fucking nobody did. Everyone bought it because you can use Bowser, turn him into Metal, give him a Super Scope and then beat the shit out of Zelda and Mewtwo in Mute City.
That's all Smash was ever meant to be. It's a Nintendo fan service game. And yet people are confused, outraged distraught that the games after Melee focused on being Nintendo fan service games instead of making shit all that glitchy shit necessary to play the game at a base level.
>>343571830
Melee had a shit year at CEO because 2 gods showed up and the brackets got fisted beyond repair by late cancellations. Smash 4 was actually great this year, tons of character diversity, Anti won, Abadango brought out the Pac-Man, Zero got fucking 7th. No Smash 4 fans have any reason to complain about CEO and none of them are.
>>343571607
>Swing view
what the fuck, what swing? Most people already hated the Smash community for a while now
>>343571607
>effort to swing view on the smash community
as probably trues as it is that /fgg/ is posting this, there don't even need to be any effort
they make an ass of themselves by themselves already
>>343572051
>Melee had a shit year because only 2 e-celebs showed up
lmao
>>343572446
Let me clarify because you don't play or watch Melee. There were two people who had a chance of winning CEO this year, and both of them are boring to watch.
>>343571140
was about to post this
>>343572446
t. retard who should learn how to use google
>>343568536
Okay, now does Smash's obtuse mechanics make the game better or worse? Clearly they make the game more complex and push human dexterity to its limits. But I've never seen anyone except literal autists actually derive enjoyment from doing them. Every good game designer tries to simplify the inputs as much as they can; Street Fighter crammed as much as it could into single button, single direction inputs.
>>343568894
Uh no, Smash's tech is clearly more complex than Guilty Gear's. Guilty Gear is a series that at least tries to incorporate tons of different mechanics in a deliberate, intuitive fashion. If you can think of a way of preserving or even increasing GG's mechanical complexity while making the inputs simpler, I think Arcsys would actually like to know.
>Really enjoy fighting games of all types
>do decent enough in most, understand mechanics and try to learn as I play instead of just raging when I lose
>can't for the life of me do shit in smash, terrible at it and become annoyed or useless when I play with people
I don't know if it's the fucking controller or how it plays, I simply can not enjoy smash. It feels so terrible.
>>343572641
It's almost like it's a party game and meant to be played for fun with friends
>>343572528
>There were two people who had a chance of winning CEO this year, and both of them are boring to watch.
>muh hype
I guess meleefags are mostly stream boars.
>>343571350
I'm saying you're right. I'm saying that the "top players" have poisoned the well and that people are making judgements based on their bitchiness, and based on how autistic the competitors look. it's definitely not the community at whole. only a fucking retard would make broad generalizations about a group of people.
>>343572640
t. casual
go play overwatch or something
>>343572641
anon focus on the real fighting games you actually enjoy, smash isn't something you should push yourself to get into imo
> a known smash player says melee was booing the delay and says it's an r/kappa conspiracy
> the stream video literally says otherwise with them booing at the start, all throughout the second half, and the medal award ceremony
> known smash players are blaming Street Fighter players for shitting in the pool even though SF rounds were still going when it happened
And now they're bitching at jebailey, the only man in the wide range of tournament organizers on their side, and demanding special treatment.
God I can't wait for them to go ballistic at Evo because ESPN is providing a green room for the SFV top 8 and televising only SFV.
>>343572641
Smash is best played semi-casually. You have a group of friends and you play against each other, doing your best in each game.You aren't so invested in victory that you go copying the obscure physics tricks high level play revolves around.
>>343573026
>Green room for SFV top 8
What the fuck really? They're not going to be on the main stage?
>>343572910
>>343572995
I've never been into it all, I just have friends that love it. I try to play it with them just to have a good time but I hate it. I don't even apply fighting game logic to it or attempt to learn. It just doesn't feel fun to me at all.
>>343572641
get a dolphin setup and play smashladder
pick up jigglypuff if you want to focus on fundamentals over tech
>>343572910
>>343572995
>>343573154
>fgcucks insecure about being incapable of doing basic tech
top fucking kek, kill yourselves
>>343572934
I see! Okay that does make sense from an outsider's perspective. Look, as far as appearances go, that's something only those individuals have any control over. I wish they could see the effects their statements have, and the rest of the visible community is basically stuck doing damage control. It's fun to watch though, and the more you watch the easier it is to see what's going on at a higher level. I hope those among the FGC that like the complex movement or even just liked Smash on a casual level can come to terms with that and just enjoy it for what it is though.
>>343573181
Green rooms are just rest rooms anon. They're places provided where performers and competitors can stay when they're not working.
Chances are ESPN wants to do interviews with players from the top 8 as well.
>>343573185
Nothing wrong with that man. Some games just aren't for you.
>>343573185
melee gets fun when you actually learn movement and move properties. if you want something designed to be "pick up and have fun" casual shit, try smash 4 or brawl.
>>343573272
>meleefag getting upset over facts
>>343573624
which facts? that melee is deeper, more technical, and more active than your favorite fighting game?
>>343573401
Oh I haven't heard that term before, I thought you meant like a green screen room
That's cool then. This whole ESPN thing is probably going to result in some awkward as fuck interviews though.
>>343573527
Project M with auto-l-cancel is great for casuals. Would recommend.
>>343573689
That's a party game?
>>343573730
It's a TV term. Can't really complain about fighting games making it on TV though, even if we end up having to watch Chad McSlab stumble through an awkward interview with Japanese NEETs
reminder that Tokido said smash is a fighting game
http://chigesoku3.doorblog.jp/archives/39344570.html
fgcucks will continue to deny this
>>343573505
I just feel odd because so many people love smash and it's supposed to be casual friendly. But I can't squeeze any enjoyment out of it.
>>343573527
I'm not interested in pursuing any of them but when they play it my friends just do Melee. Occasionally they go to Brawl to mess with other characters but that's it. I'll keep playing it when they're doing it but I give up trying to understand anything about it. I just wish they wouldn't get pissy immediately after all the smash when I suggest KOF.
>>343573910
It's ESPN2 which has actually done some really good coverage of e-sports in general. They even managed to get good interviews out of pro DOTA2 players from Russia and China.
Yahoo e-sports have been pretty good about it as well.
It's, ironically, the actual FGC sites and videogame sites that have been super cringe. Oh, and normal ESPN because they're all "not muh sports" even though they give poker a pass.
>>343553985
>the bit about pools might have a point
>i don't know how these events work
>>343574076
well at least you're honest about it being too complex for you.
>>343574071
Tokido has also said Puzzle Fighter is a fighting game on Daigo's stream when Haitani challenged him to puzzle fighter. What's your point? The guy calls everything 1v1 competitive a fighting game.
Why do smashkids keep trying to quote people without actually knowing who they are and their history?
>>343574071
Of course it's a fighting game, just a bad one.
>>343555048
>Cody instead of any other top tier character on the Street Fighter Purgatory icon
good fucking taste.
>>343557169
LOW
TIER
FRAUD
>Smash players stealing seating during last evo's guilty gear matches
>Top 8 player throwing his evo medal into the crowd
>Smash players chanting during guilty gear medal ceremony at CEO
Oh boy, can't wait for them to one-up themselves at evo this year.
>>343574071
It is a fighting game. Melee just needs to die though, it's a cancer to the community.
>>343574323
does puzzle fighter have combos, option selects, footsies, cross ups, high/low shielding, teching, anti airs, and is played at EVO?
didn't think so, try again
>>343574071
Reminder that esport "celebs" are garbage tier always. No exceptions.
>>343574376
not even close, melee is the most free-form and technical fighting game ever made.
>>343574076
To be honest Smash at casual levels without any digging into the game is pretty pleb tier, at least unless you just play with a group of meming fucks that like using joke items and jank. Melee requires at least decent l-canceling or you'll get run over by anyone with some experience unfortunately, so if they're more serious than you and can't revert to a more casual mindset it could be totally on them for making it so shit.
>>343572972
Arbitrary complexity is not good complexity. Generally speaking, regular 2D fighting games embody good complexity quite well. Most everything in the game was intended to work exactly as it does. The tricks that arise because game designers are not omniscient get addressed in later versions or sequels. There is at least some effort to organize all the different things you can do in a coherent, intuitive fashion. The aesthetic tries to incorporate them in some way via special graphics, animations, sounds etc.
Melee has tons of tricks that arose because its designers were not omniscient. They are not coherent with how the more basic layers of the game work. They don't have any extra attention from the aesthetic design, especially since the vast majority are just animation cancels or tricking the physics engine to transfer/preserve your momentum where you would otherwise stop. They're just there.
You'd think by now this would be proof of the Nintendo fanbase being the worst fanbase, but for some reason /v/ are still pointing fingers elsewhere.
>>343574459
>seriously still acting like throwing the medal was so terrible
Why have an opinion if you can't bother to take a cursory look at the reasoning?
>>343574518
Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo was actually played at Evo for years and is still a side tournament to this day.
Faggot.
Try again.
Also smash doesn't have combos, OS, oki, footsies, cross ups, and anti airs. You fags just keep throwing terms you don't understand into your game to pass off as a legit thing.
>>343573527
The fuck? Smash has always been a pick up and fun series, you ate that shit up when you were 10 years old.
>>343574459
Let's hope they embarass themselves in national television during the sfv finals
>>343574698
>Arbitrary complexity is not good complexity
So you didn't read the post? It addresses this meme argument.
>>343555819
oh hell yeah
>>343568105
This. It's gotten to a point where Smash 4 players are getting verbally attacked when they decide to enter Melee. Nairo, a ZSS player in Smash 4 said "oh you're that tr4sh player" and kept just mentioning that he should go back to it and just trash talking him just because he played smash 4. Smash 4 and Melee, actually, no, Melee players and ONLY melee players will always try to antagonize new blood in the game and also anyone who doesn't play their superior game.
If you look at MVC2's transition to MVC3, JWong was so against it. Yet, somehow, once he played it, he loved it. Sure some other people didn't get full transition but still enjoyed it. And now SF4 to SF5, well, it's debatable but people are making the move.
It's funny because Smash Bros, while being a part of the community, is one of the worst and most toxic communities ever (there are TOs who will not allow you to play on stream because "you play X character" and Nintendo, as a sponsor has not made a word on it yet) But somehow someway, Smash 64 players are the most relaxed people I've ever met, to the point that I don't think people say bad things about 64 players because they don't themselves.
>>343555819
cmooooon TRIPS
>>343574797
Smash 4 players are polite compared to Melee players.
I say this as a Street Fighter player
>>343574684
Any Smash game is fun if you play it casually though
>>343574952
>switching from an argument against Melee to an argument against Smash 4 regarding not letting someone play on stream because of character
Come on homie.
>>343574952
Tokido went from hating SFV to loving it. Honestly most of the crazy and aggressive players love it. The super defensive players and counter players are the ones that hate SFV right now.
>>343574836
>smash doesn't have combos
yes it does, are you fucking stupid? you just have to account for DI and other factors, it isn't braindead autocombos like SF
>OS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8PsOjzO0Qo
>oki
knockdowns and tech chases are a HUGE part of melee, dumb ass. watch any armada set.
>footsies
yeah man dash dancing isn't a thing that exists
>cross ups
cross ups are prominent in melee, getting behind characters like marth with weak back airs is essential
>anti airs
pick marth and use uptilt
try again
Haha faggots, that's why it's best to be a virtua fighter player!
You don't have a scene to ever cringe about!
>>343555819
LUL
>>343555819
time to ROLL
>>343547187
I knew smash brought out the bitchiest pettiest handicapping bullshit of people back when smash 64 came out.
Smash 64 was the last time I ever had a main in a smash game (Kirby) because when I played with other people they said that Kirby was a cheap character and demanded I play someone else, and no matter what character I chose they would always insist that character was overpowered and that I was being cheap by playing them.
I eventually just started playing random every time and kept that up ever since and even that has not stopped the people saying that I am somehow cheating.
I played a brawl tournament a couple of years and almost got kicked out for playing random because according to them it somehow gave me a advantage?
>>343574858
sakurai said melee was too difficult for casuals, that's why he dumbed down the series
>>343574952
>it's a tr4sh apologist tells things that never happened episode
>top 8 smash 4
>before the matches go on, there is one last thing that is done before the matches go live
>8 player 2 minute free for all with items on on big battlefield
>our respective faces when this happens
>>343575087
nothing feels better than a fun game with 8 people on temple and almost all items on or just smash balls.
>>343575082
Agreed. as a person who is diverse in his fighting games and likes to dabble in smash, especially sound modding, I will say Smash 4 is very respectful and nice. I would say that it's probably because they've got more open minds from younger people, but then again, Melee players all act like children, and i've seen kids play smash 4, and they make melee players look like a loser so sore that it makes a stubbed toe look like it's supposed to be colored purple from bruising.
>>343575489
i've never understood the casual mentality, how can you find something dictated by RNG fun?
>>343574890
Only in the context of high level Melee play. My point is that high level Melee play is something no one should really aspire to. You are better off playing non-Smash games if you're looking for competition beyond a handful of friends or your dorm's common room.
>>343575243
i get it
because virtua fighter is dead
and shit
and so are you
>>343575202
A cross up by definition is only possible in a game with walk backwards to block. MK doesn't have cross ups, because there's a block button, it does have a lot of high low mixups though, to compensate.
Smash has a block button too, so any ambiguous jump move can be blocked by pressing shield
>>343575429
Sakurai's a pissy retarded control freak. He gets furious when people don't do things exactly the way he wants them to, including beat him at his own video game.
>>343575596
Yeah, it's not like Smash games have the highest amount of entrants at majors like CEO and EVO.
Oh wait...
>>343575616
Hey, Virtua Fighter is NOT shit. You might be right on everything else but there's no need to spout bullshit.I fucking hate that I'm stuck in DOA5 hell, not because I'm ashamed of the game or anything. But because every tournament is filled with the absolute worst neckbeards and spergs.
>>343575584
>how can you find something dictated by RNG fun?
So what you're saying is you find just about every rpg and a lot of games that have varying patterns in characters not fun? What the fuck? RNG is in almost every single game there is.
To answer that seriously, the spur of the moment of something happening is what makes it fun. of course if you're playing for keeps, yeah that's a no go, but if you're playing with 2-3/2-8 friends then it's really fun because of just what could happen.
>>343575658
what would you call axe purposefully nairing on the back of someone's shield so they can't punish his approach then? because everyone refers to it as a cross up.
>>343575202
Thanks for proving me right and that you have no idea what any of those terms mean.
>>343574812
Please explain the reasoning to me, I'm genuinely curious as to what would make that okay.
>>343565675
They were originally grassroots. They know how to do it.
>>343575584
You still have plenty of options to counter the RNG in smash with items
>>343575584
Whacky moments and not caring about winning is pretty fun desu
>>343571136
>physically intensive
I guess for fat fucks like you and Scarf Lard, it would be.
>>343575721
Anon. Stop while you're ahead because you can't do basic math.
>>343575857
>blahblah i have no argument
kill yourself, i bet you're one of those guys who says anime fighters don't have footsies because it's too fast for you to follow
>>343575862
It's literally
>the guy used to rank high and won plenty of stuff in the past
>didn't make top 3 so the metal was automatically trash
>>343550240
the pound is still the 4th strongest currency in the world, behind a bunch of oil nations
>>343575837
It's a safe blockstring. I'm assuming that if they try to punish they'll get stuffed, so it's a frame trap too
>>343555939
>we usually stay in our containment threads so as not to deal with having the same tired arguments over and over.
Bull fucking shit, Meleefags infested the hell out of twitch chat.
>>343575971
No, because anime fighters do have footsies. Are you really this fucking dumb? You realize there's also the concept of air footsies right?
Footsies isn't just "waah I'm chasing you and now I'm running away."
Jesus fuck smashkid go to bed.
>>343575953
hax LITERALLY destroyed his hands from being the most technical player in melee
>>343575953
it doesn't require math to compare entrant numbers dumbass
>>343576030
I just want to organize a scene at my campus. But all these fucking autists show up with CRTs and gamecubes in their backpacks.
And the smell, good god the smell.
>>343575489
>>343575584
Not him but I like playing with selective items, customs, and equipment on most stages with 8 people.
I like testing my skill in 1v1s, but the game has so much potential variety, like critting for 200% with an F-smash from Hyper Monado Shulk.
I've been trying to polish my Samus with z-airs and morph ball bomb usage but I don't really have anyone to play with so that's why I fuck around in 8-player matches and with items/customs/equipment.
>>343575987
So he was being a baby because he didn't win?
Doesn't sound like an excuse to me
>>343575584
>how can you find something dictated by RNG fun?
Ask any gambler.
What is /v/'s favorite fightan game anyway?
Mine isGuilty Gear XRD
>>343576112
>Footsies isn't just "waah I'm chasing you and now I'm running away."
weaving in and out of your opponent's range, baiting attacks like high level melee players do is the definition of footsies
>Jesus fuck smashkid go to bed.
nigger you couldn't address a single one of my points because you've never played melee on a non-casual level
kys
>>343576120
Apparently it does require basic math since you can't do addition.
Only sm4sh got higher numbers at CEO than SFV and a lot of people weren't in town on the SF side in preparation for Evo.
Then, not only can you not do math, but you somehow think either smash game has numbers higher than 5000 at Evo.
>>343576393
>sm4sh got higher numbers at CEO than SFV
thanks for admitting it
>>343575862
It's essentially Mango being Ricky Bobby. It's his medal. I understand people that say it's disrespectful, but at the same time, the dude earned it. If he'd thrown it in the trash 30 seconds after leaving the venue no one would cry about it. He won the previous 2 EVOs and his mission was to win 3 in a row, regarding anything less as a failure. But seriously I can't understand how people act like this is a point against Melee at all; hate the guy if you want to but how is this something that says anything about Melee? Why is it a crime if someone makes that kind of decision with something they earned? Do you honestly think Mr Wizard is offended, or cares even a little bit?
>>343576352
Again, that isn't footsies. In fact you somehow got whiff punishing mixed up with footsies right in the middle there.
Dumb shit.
>>343557434
This is what happens when kids get molested
>>343575945
Items can make for some crazy situations, too.
Mr. Saturn into shield breaks, Screw Attacks off the top, combos into motion sensor bombs, edgeguarding with battering weapons, etc...
It's a lot of fun.
>>343576080
>Twitch chat
How do you expect to fucking contain that? You might as well go cry about how /b/ is low quality.
>>343556267
>perfectly acceptable
There was no Puck, and minimal gore as far as Berserk goes, it was far from "acceptable"
At least this CGI adaptation is seemingly following the Manga more closely.Guts gonna get Black'd
>>343576304
Yes, that's the reason. And no it is not. It's childish as fuck.
>>343576465
Someone asked wizard what he thought on Twitter and he said it was disrespectful
>>343554938
>get caught cheating
>MUH DISORDER
>MUH HALLUCINATIONS
>THE VOICES IN MY HEAD MADE ME DO IT
someone lock this kid up in an asylum before he snaps
>>343576080
>twitch chat
>>343575658
Crossups are sorta in melee.
See, while you do have a shield button, that shield doesn't always cover your entire character, and it gets smaller over time or when it gets hit. If they put out an attack over a part of your character that isn't covered by the shield, you will get hit. One thing that you can do as a defender, however, is tilt the stick to shift your shield in a direction that you think and attack is going to come from, at the cost of leaving another area open.
Cross-up like situations can come from this stuff, but it isn't quite the same thing.
>>343576524
>It refers to a situation where both players are outside of combo range and attack each other with long-range, generally safe attacks (pokes). The ultimate goal is to control the flow of the match, bait the opponent into committing errors, and punish everything.
are you seriously implying melee doesn't have footsies? what would you consider neutral with players dash dancing in and out of their opponent's range and throwing out pokes like marth's dtilt? this should be entertaining.
>>343576465
Except Ricky Bobby was a petulant child throwing a tantrum? So what if it's your metal, have some tact and do as you said, toss it in the bin later not on stage. It makes you look like a whiny fuccboi along with your whole scene.
>>343562484
>melee is better than average with almost half of the cast being viable
you've got to be fucking kidding me
>>343576465
If he didn't want the medal, that's fine. But to throw it into the crowd right away after receiving it? That seems disrespectful, he should have just given it to a fan after the award ceremony
>>343576920
I seriously can't believe people are getting offended about this. It's not EVO's to give once everything has been set up. It's his because he earned it. If he wants to get rid of it, why do you give a shit? It's the guy's character, and it has nothing to do with the game at all. You're honestly being a child if you think that reflects on anyone but himself.
>>343577040
Pikachu is 13th on the tier list, of 26 characters, and is almost always in top 8 at majors.
>>343577165
>offended
>give a shit
Hold on there smashbabby, I'm not upset by this. I think it's pathetic and laughable, acting like a child on a stage. He certainly has a right to do all those things but it means everyone gets to see what he is and call it like it is.
>>343577473
That's totally fair. Acting like that's the whole scene's mindset is ridiculous and why I'm talking to you like you're stupid.
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