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VLR end > true end
nyakane~
SLEEP WITH ME
Why is Carlos so dreamy?
wait a minute, that pool of blood...
>first puzzle game was head in the freezer
wasn't prepared
>>343537412
SAME
D-Team best team
Anagram of "Zero Time Dilemma" = (major spoilers)Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta.
What was your FAVORITE moment in ZTD? I was let down by the ending too but the ride was fucking fun. For me it was a tie between
-C End
-"Why don't we SHIFT?"
-10 months
>>343537412
Shit I hated about the fragments were you can see what happens in other time lines. I think it was the infirmary where Carlos just goes "hey I saw your head" and then went shit because it would've been great seeing it the first time
>>343537149
>>343537428
Are you trying to imply that there are two Carloses, and that in fact he was Left all along?
>>343537254
>So who are you interested in Carlos?
>You're not gonna hit on me are you
>I'm talking about my sister
>Oh a little sister complex, huh
Why was Junpei jumping on Carlos's dick that fast with Akane right there?
>>343537614
Carlos's shifting adventures
>>343537568
Diana presses the button.gif
>>343537614
Every Carlos scene
>Shoot me! Don't worry, I won't die
>>343537743
THE FUCK
>>343536557
The fuck is everyone talking about?
>>343537349
Is that there for complex reasons?
>>343537706
drank too many pepsis'
>>343537614
>we'll use our bodies to protect you from the bullets...and we'll die
>THE FUCK?
>>343537817
how about reading those chain replies faggot
>>343537743
he lied
he died ;__;
>>343537706
Trying to get Akane jealous.
>>343537923
I did, and people are just grasping at straws.
>>343537614Pressing the do not press button and instantly blowing up
Why were Junpei and Akane so asshurt at Carlos at the end of VLR ending part 2? I didn't catch it. What could he have done?
>>343537743
>You're, uhh, to be blunt, really hot
i feel like there is relevance to the 6 X-passes. does anyone know?
>Start playing ZTD
>Play all Q team scenes
>Keep looking at Mira and get a boner
did anyone else do this
>>343537614
I really liked Zero's story about Sean and all of C team's cutscenes because they are amazing.
>>343538091
Stopping Radical-6?
>>343526361
>that one chainsaw scene
>akane just mindlessly swings around the chainsaw with her hair clipping all over the place while carlos holds the axe like a fucking katana
What was your favorite fight scene, /v/?
So Delta can read people's mind but those this mean that if he read a shifter he can read-shift the mind from another timeline sorta like hyperlinks on a site?
>>343538265
How would he be able to do that?
>>343537614
Now that I think back on it the shifting adventure was fun, I was just hoping it would lead to something better, and it didn't at all.
My favorite scene had to be, HEY AKANE YOU'RE HOT, LET'S FUCK and Junpei not even really doing anything until Carlos is already on top of her.
Because it was so out of left field, I could barely handle it.
Also, yelling at Sigma to shove his dick into Diana because there was too much filler before he went balls deep. SLEEP WITH ME.
I was yelling "CURE HER WITH THE DICK SIGMA" when she ran away "SIGMA WHY DIDN'T YOU USE YOUR DICK NOW SHE'S GONNA KILL HERSELF"
I don't even remember how many times I was yelling 12 INCHES at 3 in the morning.
>>343538225
how could i do that anon, i ama girlafter allyes girls browse 4chan it's 2016 and i'd really like it if we could just IGNORE it and move on
>>343537942
that carlos didnt die
other carlos did
>>343537614
D-Team End 2. That fragment as a whole is my favorite part of the entire series.
>>343538324
>>343538091
Because he waited until shit happened at the facility to call the cops and rescue them instead of fucking stopping Zero from the start.
>>343538278
Didn't mean to reply to the other thread, but whatever.
Zero Time Dilemma is an anagram.
It reveals.Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta
>>343538349
please be in london
>>343538324
You know what, you're right. I don't know why the fuck Akane is fucking angry at him for that. The hell is he supposed to do?
>>343538340
>Because it was so out of left field, I could barely handle it.
Where is he in that scene, let alone the whole game? I don't even think he got a mention.
Akane going apeshit on Carlos with a fire extinguisher. Good thing he can't die :^)
>>343538454
you fucked up the first time
also it was already posted in this thread
l2post
I'm still mixed on how the ending turned out and how some plot points were either ignored or brushed off but damn I love the last few moments of the ending and it definitely benefits from being open ended. "This is the decision game" sent chills down my spine, especially with the credits music playing shortly after
guys I don't get this one thing, if a copy of carlos was transported back 10 months to get out akane and junpei at the VLR end, he should be showing up at the end of every single timeline. But yet he never appears to bust out diana and sigma in their trapped timeline. And shouldn't there be an extra carlos walking around in the world even at the true end? Or did I miss something?
>>343538349
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>>343538272
>>343538454
You can't shift your way out of this one.
WHAT IS EVEN THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE TWO
>VLR
>psyhic people
>Phi and Sigma absorb Junpei's/Clover's/Kyle's/Akane's power
>ZTD
>no one is absorbing power of other psychics
Tell me how it works.
>>343538576
COMPLEX
But yeah you're right, unless the timelines branch before ZTD begins.
>>343538486
Man thatAB gamewas bullshit. Why not pick Ally twice? Instead of a fuckingbomb and deciding to SHIFT
>>343538625
When not feeling friendly, his neck is programmed to retract back into his torso. Sean is actually a type of turtle.
>>343538605
>>343538515
So, this is that thread...
>>343537614
D end 1
>>343538625
Stop posting Ace
during puzzle sequences you'll occasionally see what looks like an escape hatch?
188 lbs at the incinerator?
what purpose did they serve?
what flavor ice cream you guys want
>>343538562
>open ended
You mean inconclusive because what even happened with the terrorist, with the reason this whole thing even happened
We'll never know
>>343538349
DAMN CUNT STOP BULLSHITTING ME
Since this is anonymous I'm not afraid to admit this game made me almost cry a few times, and I'm a male
>>343538483
>left
Funny joke anon, funny.
>>343538819
>188 lbs at the incinerator?
sigma's weight, for the chair
In that ending whereCarlos went on his 10 month shifting adventure, how does he even exist? If he spent that time doing nothing, shouldn't someone else have taken his place in the game since he never joined?
>>343538836
Mira flavor
>>343538836heart ofpalm
/v/, rewrite ZTD using this:
>Real mastermind is Carlos not Delta
>Brother, Left, and/or Zero, pick your poison
>Actually behaves like we know him (except there's a bit of foreshadowing)
>COMPLEX MOTIVATIONS
>No, but really, they are
>>343538819
The 188lbs referenced thatSigma needed to be the one to sit on the chair in front of the gun since it was weight-activated
Also why the fuck was there a scale in an incinerator
>>343538836
Eric in 20 years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXbtkOEwGw
>>343538836
Blue
>tfw Carlos slammed his sister while other Carlos was dead.
>>343538836
TITTYMILK
>Sean has real Sean's aka Left's personality
>Dio is a clone of Sean/Left
>Dio is a cunt
How and why did Dio end up being a cunt?
why didn't they just make the hentai version
>>343539091
Sean was the kid who died in the hospital waiting to get the surgeon to save him dingus.
It's all that fucking snail's fault.
? went back in time to become the snail.
>>343539000
Why the hell would Carlos be the mastermind? He's fine as he already is
>>343538928
for what purpose
Do you think delta was as shocked at Carlos getting the coin flip wrong at start as everyone else? Now he has to commit murders and die while the Delta chilling in the other timeline literally just has to mind-hack a few people and tell them how he's not a criminal and walk away.
>>343539172
>He's fine as he already is
>>343538836
No Mint Choc Chip? Eric's bullshitting me.
>>343539091
I think Left is Lord Gordains son
Would explain why the robes that were associated with Lord Gordain in 999 ended up being Free the Soul robes in VLR and ZTD
>1904
>expect something about the titanic to be brought up
>nothing
>Sigma can't read the alien language on the teleporter and has to pick a random timeline
>Carlos picks the exact time and date needed to transport
>Diana and Sigma pick the exact time and date needed to transport their kids
???
>zero said that he had a little sister that akane and junpei knew very well
>it actually made me think think snake was zero, and that he was talking about clover, notphi
all i wanted in ztd was to see snake or seven again...;_;
>>343539253
Delta understands that life isn't fair.
>no scene where the gang shifts into the coin toss event again
>coin lands on its side
>Mind Hack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-klQ-kpq98
>Carlos has literallyzerobad qualities about him
>And he's handsome as fuck
>You will never be as perfect as Carlos
feels bad man
Did Uchi do the Q&A yet? Is Zero Escape 4: Chapter 51 confirmed?
>>343539172
That anon was probably just trying to have fun. Probably is incredibly dissatisfied with Delta being the real mastermind and would've preferred the story to take another direction.I also recall that there was a huge number of people that wanted Carlos to be the villain pre-ZTD.
Do you think that Carlos ever shifted to a timeline to rape his sister just so he could know what she felt like inside?
>>343539519
why do you think he always looks so smug
>>343537412
I expected it would end up being Junpei about halfway through the room, honestly.
I am amazed that Zero set up a puzzle that uses Junpei's severed body parts, though.
>>343539492
What's the usual amount of time that it takes for those to be released? Been into the series since before VLR but I never kept up with that back then.
>>343539484
Carlos is arguably one of the biggest dumbases in the game though
>>343536860
the first fragment I did post-vote was the pantry. i don't think i've ever been more excited about a video game than seeing a thumbnail of akane with a chainsaw and it really fucking delivered. love this game, i'm so glad we're in the timeline where it got made
Why is Carlos a replica of Joey from Yugioh?
>>343539519
No, Carlos in all timelines is pure, stop projecting your filthy fantasies on him.
>>343539717
That's not Eric.
Just finished the game like 5 minutes ago.
Would've preferred if Delta was just replaced with Akane as the sister of phi and daughter of sigma+diana. And her also being zero.
I really liked Delta and his motives though. You can't really argue with his logic.
That said I think this was the least good entry in the trilogy.
I really hope there won't be a 4th game since this open ending is the perfect way to end the story I think. Gives it a more cerebral touch.
>>343539000
Carlos is Zero.
Carlos created a new clone of himself every 10 months for years, or shorten down the cooling time for more clones.
Carlos was doing all of this so he could save every timeline's Akane and Junpei.
He had to have danger so he could shift to save everyone.
He Is told all he had to do was not have the decision game at all, then there would be no need to save them.
Carlos gives his best dumb-founded stare.
Credits roll.
>>343539734
what the fuck is up with your image?
>>343538562It's not open ended. Delta made two time lines when he handed Carlos the gun, one where he shoots delta and Carlos and the shifty crew fuck up the terrorist and save humanity, and the other where Delta releases radical 6 and deals with the terrorist.
That's what I got out of it anyway.
Was the lack of Kyle and Left really that much of a dealbreaker for this game?
Dumb question, what is the significance of both Akane andDeltahavingpurple eyes?Did I miss something obvious here?
>>343539892
Considering how Akane said sending Kyle's consciousness to the past was integral to their plan working, either Uchi forgot and created a big plothole, or Kyle was the Dog or Kyle was the fanatic.
>>343536860
>retrying for antidote bad end
>click whatever
>correct
>huh, must have misclicked
>retry
>click G this time, it was F the first time, right?
>correct
>retry once again
>click B maybe I was wrong
>correct
>retry
>watch the cutscene this time instead of skipping
>realize there are different outcomes
>mfw
>>343539925
Delta is the grandfather of Akane of course.
Okay, so.
I'm gonna go over the whole snail story, obvious spoilers follow.
>Snail appears on park trail
>Eric's mother decides to take a left, is killed by a young Mira.
>Akane's father is falsely accused of the act and ultimately dies, her mother then commits suicide. This affects Junpei's life by proxy.
>Sean's surgeon takes the taxi Akane's father called, is caught in a terrible accident and dies, fucking Sean over. Delta was really fond of Sean.
That's the gist of it, right? No connection to Carlos whatsoever? He seems oddly disconnected to the entire affair other than having an esper sister.
>>343539925
It means thatAkane was Zero after all
>>343540093
so wouldn't her father have died anyway
>>343539892
I think everyone had expectations on what would Kyle do since he was very important to the mission or who Left is, then were met with nothing. I blame the budget and not given enough time to work out the plot
>>343540093
The arson of Carlos's parents home was started by Mira as a tactic to escape law enforcement.
>>343540093
well if you really want the father of sean became a pyromaniac and set carlos's house on fire
>134 years old
Fucking how. Explain this. You just can'tmind-hackyour way through life.
>>343539164
It's called Euphoria. It sucks.
>>343540203Life is simply unfair
>>343540253
>134 years old
>twice as old as his dad
>>343540203
You'd think so, but if one variable changes they'd all change a small bit, so maybe not.
>>343540253
It was 124
>>343540253
ayy lmao technology
>>343540253
dude aliens lmao
>>343539838
What the hell are you smoking, anon?
>>343540253
he is able to create radical 6 and possess alien tech
nigga is smart
>>343540253
Probably Nazis and Aliens to be honest.
THE BIGGEST INJUSTICE OF THIS GAME WAS
THE PUZZLE ROOMS WERE ASS
LITERALLY THE SAME PUZZLES OVER AND OVER AGAIN
999 AND VLR HAD GOOD PUZZLE ROOMS
OUTSOURCING WAS A MISTAKE
>>343540253
Just before he tells you he is 124 years old he explains that he and Phi have superhuman genes thanks to the events that take place during ZTD.
>>343540203
The timing would've been different. It just takes the taxi being at a different part of the road for a few seconds for the accident to be potentially averted.
>>343537614
I just started and my favorite thing so far was getting the coin flip right on the first go-through, then jumping back and picking the same color only to be wrong this time.
>Mfw
>>343540093
you forgot eric's father became abusive without his mother around and killed his brother chris (and then made eric dump the body into the lake). But yeah no connection to carlos.
Why'd the fucking retard put an explosion collar on himself? Why'd he put himself into the acid room.
Seriously, what the fuck Delta.
>>343540253
It's set in 2029, they probably have drugs that can let you live 150> and still be strong enough to lift and fire a shotgun.
So why did Delta like Sean so much? He met millions of people and a kid in a hospital was the one that gave him the motivation to make the quantum computer and create free the soul?
>>343540093
Clover and Snake had parents and they got kidnapped, Akane and Santa probably still would have been kidnapped too
>>343540352
>>343540336
>124 years old
>he was almost twice as old as his dad
>he was short by 10 years
>10
fucking hell uchikoshi
How do you unlock more fragments? I'm stuck and can't figure out how to do so.
They talked a lot about the morality of SHIFTING and how it's essentially murder.
And then at the end they give you a final decision game where you can choose to stay in the basement or kill those happy people.
I thought the ending would be them realizing that SHIFTING is really immoral and accepting their fates with a smile.
NOPE. Fuck my other selves we gonna get outta here.
>>343540470
I thought the puzzle rooms were alright and there was no bullshit like the VLR dice puzzles at least.
>>343540585
>Get all three teams executed.
>Tell Eric who killed Mira. Be honest.
>>343537412
Me too, it was a bit too much, specially with how Akane reacted.
>>343540470
this, the puzzles were so fucking basic i felt insulted at times
>>343540585
Fragments unlock once you get to certain points in the game. You're probably missing a cutscene
Where exactly are you stuck? What scenes have branches you haven't gotten to yet?
Anyone else feel disappointed with how the whole Radical-6 and 6 billion thing was handled in this game?
>>343540585
See the disconnected fragments in the top left of the whole timeline that say team executed or some shit? Redo the who do you murder games and manipulate it for the teams you are missing
Also don't bullshit Eric.
>>343540630
At least they discuss about how they're going to be dicks and screw them over. It's not like they pretend they're doing a morally white thing.
>>343540546
HIROSHIMOOOOOOOOT
>>343540630
That is an ending though. That happens.
>>343540630
But you SHIFTED a lot and suddenly where it all matters, now you want to talk about the moral consequences?
So why did Junpei suddenly turn bisexual in this one? Is it because of his year of hell?
He experimented with hookers or something? Got drunk and had a lot of sex?
He was all over Carlos's dick, I wasn't expecting the first thing to come from him to be hitting on Carlos RIGHT in front of Akane. Jesus christ.
That's lewd.
>>343540470
>>343540648
Here's something like a cube with some twisty lines on it, rotate all the sides so the lines line up :)
Way too many like "coffee table" puzzles
>>343537614
There are so many.
>pic related
>PHI-SAMA DA
>Oh look at these cool robots, Sigma! S-Sigma, what's wrong?
>PRESS IT
>Oh I know, it's "Moe"!
>Let's just SHIFT
>Don't worry, I won't die
>I waited whole 10 months so that I can save you guys!
>Super Saiyan Blue
>Does that make you ANGRY, Phi?
>saying "did they fuck" as they held hands in the pod and then realizing that they did.
I also really enjoyed
>What are you doing in the incinerator Phi?
>Cutting my next album.
It must've been sofire.
>>343540630
That is an ending.
>>343540780
Yet they criticize Delta for murdering innocent people literally 5 minutes after judging they don't really give a fuck about other timelines anyway.
>>343540765
Absolutely. It was as if it isn't the reason as to why Sigma did everything and why we decided to go back at the end of VLR. Had barely any emphasis. VLR's plot as a whole was thrown out the window.
>>343540470
>tfw no final puzzle like sudoku or the Q room
Big reason why I think the end game just felt off and rushed.
>>343540949
>every time he said FINAL DECISION I assumed they would go into a room for final puzzle
>assumed the quantum computer core room was going to be the final puzzle room
>it wasn't
>>343540949
the final puzzle is the reactor
>>343540949
Also the beginning of the game felt pretty tedious IMO.
>>343540812
In VLR at least, Sigma shifts back to his dying self and ends up saving him with knowledge gained from his jump. ZTD just decided not to do shifting until imminent death. It's more a fault of ZTD just being written not as smartly and cohesively as VLR.
>>343538340
>shouting "Give her the D-Team" late at night.
The morphogenetic fields are resonating
>>343540470
You can also do a puzzle two times and they straight up give you hints on how to do it.
Was there a puzzle anyone actually enjoyed?
>>343537614
Pretty much what nearly everyone else said but Diana turning out to bea normie hater and the sloppiest drunkwas out of the left field, but so fun because of it.
>>343540093
I don't know, maybe he was involved for a reason that we'll never learn. Maybe it was intended that Maria and Carlos awakened their esper powers, and...
Yeah, I'm trying to find meaning where Uchi put none
>>343541147
The sliding block puzzles in the pod room were basic and fun. I liked them.
>>343540470
>it's ANOTHER sliding block puzzle
>>343537614
>Carlos shifts to come up with a plan on how to deal with killer sean
>Plan is move to the side
https://twitter.com/SpikeChunsoft_e/status/749146360562102272
>>343540470
Weren't all the puzzle rooms in the series outsourced?
>>343541147
I enjoyed figuring out the numbers belonging to the cards in the teleporter room.
I enjoyed the concepts of a room that has walls that rotate when you bang on them with a hammer, and a room that has walls that change scenery when you turn a dial.
>>343539840Pretty sure Radical-6 only gets released in the apocalypse ending, Delta doesn't need to release it because everyone is going to stop the fanatic.Not sure what happens with Delta after the true ending, probably just goes back to being brother and mindhacking people before dying of old age.
>>343536860
Is this game good /v/?
>>343541406
Is any game good? Why does this board exist?
>>343541303
>https://twitter.com/SpikeChunsoft_e/status/749146360562102272
Please don't.
Let it end before it gets any worse than it already is
>>343541406
It has its problems but it's worth it for the ride.
>>343541303
I'm thinking 999/VLR ports
I'm hoping a new series by Uchi
>>343541406
yes
>>343540470
Refresh my memory anons. What were the best puzzle rooms in the series? It's been a while.
>>343541406
yeah but play 999 and vlr first
>>343541486
Crew Quarters
Should I have played the game with english voice acting? I got the feeling everyone was supposed to be talking english plot wise.
>>343541398In one of the timelines he said he was killed by Carlos. Maybe that's what happened in the real end
>>343541406
it's good
but i wouldnt recommend it, unless you've played the previous games
>>343541303
Announcing a sequel right now would be suicide for business reasons.
It's the ports.
>>343540470
>hardest puzzle was knowing how to spell brooch without looking it up
>>343536860
Would you guys have found this game more interesting if Carlos had some new and cool esper ability that we haven't seen before?
>>343541406
It's by no means the series' zenith and disappoints in a number of ways, but I thought it was still worth playing at least.
>>343541554
No.
In both VLR/999 it was hell
>>343541406
Play the first two games since it straight up spoil the previous two games.
>>343540470
>achievement pops up for completing all Quest segments
>realize I have to go through six or seven fragments without any puzzles
Who stops the puzzles two hours before the game is over? There should always be a final puzzle.
>>343537706
Let's be honest here Carlos is the sexiest man.
>>343541147
The only good room was D team's robot room with the bomb mini game.
What made it shit is that you could just blow up multiple times and find out the right wire that way. It was actually fun to blow up because of Sigma's reaction too.
>>343541560
That was during the timeline where Q-Team loses the execution vote. Delta was executed then, too. The "deciding" vote to kill Q-Team would have been Carlos', since they were meant to vote for D-Team according to the plan.
Although I suspect Delta mindhacked him into pressing the button so he's a big fucking troll.
>tfw you bought the 3DS version
>>343536860
I havent finished ZTD but theres no way its worse the VLR ending, because VLR had some major holes and issues with its ending.
>>343541125
there is no true shifting in VLR, sigma never retains all of his memories until the very end. He just remembers the specific information he needs at that very moment.
>999:No one can shift
>VLR:2 people can shift
>ZTD:Basically everyone can shift because of muh resonancemeh.
>>343541741
Got you famidelta.
>>343541486
Operating room (999)
Gaulem Bay (VLR)
>>343541741
for what purpose
>>343541559
>I got the feeling everyone was supposed to be talking english plot wise.
Canonically that should be the case
>>343541751
just wait
>>343541589
No, I didn't want new abilities period, so MIND HACKing wasnt my favorite thing
>>343541298
I thought he was gonna use thepassword for getting Sean's head offor something.
>>343541147
POD
Teleporter
Nuclear Reactor
Biolab by default because it was the first one I did.
Healing Room
>>343541712
because you run out of time/money
>>343541949
>his/her
>>343541559
considering most characters are american, yeah
the english voices are alright, but the jap voices are better
>>343541671
fuck off lmao
>>343541460
>>343541485
>>343541552
>>343541569
>>343541593
>>343541706
Nice, I tend to play other type of games, but this series always seemed very intriguing. Thanks guys.
>>343541797
This is EXACTLY what bothered me.
999 made SHIFTing really cool, in ZTD it's basically a joke, also MIND HACKING.
Who even cares anymore, it doesn't make sense anymore.
>>343541298
His plan was to spend 10 months in the Hyperbolic Healing Chamber and become super saiyan.
>It's another 'rotate things and line up the x marks while making them all fit' puzzle
Someone needs to do an edit of the Bad Grandpa cover withDelta
>>343541303
>pic related
>>343542153
Those were pretty simple, get good.
>>343538214
Well, Q team had: EYE KILL FOOL.
Maybe it's telling us thatQ is spying on everybody, Mira is a serial killer and Eric is a fool in love who can't see the truth
Don't remember other team passes though.
>>343539432
did akane and junpei even really know phi?
>>343541303
Punchline 2.
Favorite ZTD tracks? I know it's not a whole lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nOFP6knXpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVT234OA0o
>>343542198
The difficulty didn't bother me, all you have to do is place the large pieces first. It was just that there were so many of them in the game.. why? Why did you do it?
>>343541734
>Delta was executed then, too.
I was thinking about this last night and it really doesn't make any sense. Why would he kill himself?
All of the body movement is either done by him himself or all of the Seans, and he obviously has control over both, I mean, the game is in his control. For the sake of all the shifting I guess he would need the bomb strapped to his neck as well, but as Mira and Eric couldn't shift anyway, the only one capable of "knowing" that his bomb didn't go off was Sean, whose memory he could just erase.
He basically killed himself in the Q-team execution timeline for no good reason, it's retarded
The whole goddamn plot is retarded the more I think about it
>>343541398
Well if you look at it from a numbers stand point with the two timelines:
1)Delta dead, the super shifty squad either A) save everyone or B) Fuck up and humanity dies. 0% or 100%
2)Delta lives, radical 6 is released, 6 billion die and 2 billion remain. definite 66%
So by doing so, Delta creates at least one timeline in the new timeline he created with the won coin toss where humanity survives.
Though I just realised that since they do shift, there is probably billions of timelines branching off of 1 where they do fuck up and only 1 where they succeed.
It's one way of looking at it, but it's probably wrong.
>>343538214
http://zeroescape.wikia.com/wiki/X-Passes
>>343542198
That's the problem. They're shitty and boring and you have to do a dozen of them over the course of the game. And fuck sliding block puzzles for the same reasons.
999>>>>>VLR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ZTD
And I still enjoyed ZTD. Says a lot about VLR and especially 999 I guess.
>>343542267
>it's not a whole lot
Mostly because they reused stuff from the first two games. I honestly loved the soundtrack of ZTD, though it's somewhat worse than VLR and 999 to me.
>>343541741
better than buying the steam version when you can just torrent it for free
>>343542409
you can just pirate the 3DS version too
the only one worth buying is the Vita one :^)
>>343542238
fight jump poor
june jump virgin
blue red milk
fire crash five ice (c team + eric)
dad time (sigma and phi)
Q MIRA ERIC CARLOS AKANE JUNPEI Passes: SHIFT SIX RING AGE HEART LOVE
Game felt like it ended too quickly, and there was no final puzzle room. Also,MIND HACKING
Still, theDiana and Sigmaending was amazing.
In the end ZTD was an admirable effort and a good game despite not being as good as VLR or 999.
>>343542267
Ustulate Pathos was fine, but it was no Mophogenetic Sorrow or Blue Bird Lamantation. Super bummed there wasn't a stand out song like those two.
>>343542380
shit taste detected
Blick-Winkel here, ZTD stream starts next Friday.
Wait I am bit confused everytime Sigma and Phi shifted they should have remembered the past timelines right?
>>343542238
>>343542518
C TEAM KILLED EVERYONE - SELF RIP LAKE BIRD TWIN OLD
>>343542380
Yeah, 999 is an absoluet masterpiece of gaming
>>343542370
Layton prepared me for those.
>>343542409
The 3DS version is even worse because you can torrent it OR pirate it directly from nintendo serverswhich is what I was going to do until some based anon leaked the game himself
JUNPEI IS A SLUT
JUNPEI IS A SLUT
HE FUCKED HOOKERS
HE TRIED TO FUCK AN AMERICAN HERO
HE LIKES TO GET DRUNK IN THE SHOWER
SLUT SLUT SLUT
PORN NEVER
How were you supposed to enter FUTURE and VIRGIN when the X-passes can only be up to 5 characters?
Is this game trying to tell us something?
>>343542606
got you, fám
>>343542771
who's the virgin.. carlos?
how does she not know? she shifted into the timeline where VLR takes place. what, she injected herself or what?
>>343542380
Agreed. I'm endlessly disappointing in how things ended and were resolved (or rather not resolved), but I enjoyed the ride. I think a lot of people out there think that if you criticize how horribly things were handled in terms of resolution, you're automatically a HATER!!!!1
>>343542840Mira
The only fucking redeeming quality of ZTD was that awesome section of Sigma and Diana staying there for 10 months.
Out of nowhere the writing quality shoot up and became great-tier. Then afterwards it immediately dips again.
How the fuck could they have such good writing in 1 part and absolute shit in other parts?
>>343541721
He's a lot more dorky than he is sexy. He pretty much confirms that he has no romantic experience. On top of this, he brought his cat to prom because he couldn't get a date.
There might be something very sexy in all that naivety, heroism, and purity of his, along with that ridiculous bod of his, but he'll never be for lewd.
>>343542840
Mira.
>>343542863
Why is her hair brown instead of purple here?
>>343542278
Because it was necessary for him to force Akane and Junpei to go to the timeline where C-Team is executed, as that's the timeline that leads to VLR.
It's not like Delta cares that he's dead or alive in a given history (as demonstrated multiple times, at least twice in the final ending), he only cares about his master plan.
>>343542863
She lied because of complex reasons
>>343540527
He was complex.
>>343542771
How do you spell virgin in chinese? I know future is mirai, which would fit.
>>343540490
If you just started you should leave. There are a ton of spoilers in this thread
Does anyone know if there will be a 4th entry?
I can't really tell if the ending is supposed to be a cerebral open ending to make you think or sequel bait.
>>343542863
The Junpei and Akane that survived in the VLR timeline were the copies, the originals were killed.
They never figured out the whole deal so they wouldn't know, though she would have some details to share
How did Junpei, Akane, and Carlos SHIFT to the dice timeline from the AB game when they're supposed to have no memories of prior events?
>>343542272
I think there were 3
I think they got progressively harder too so that didn't bother me.
>>343542993
I have a feeling the X-passes are English in both languages. The anagrams are, which is why the characters have to explain to each other what simple English words mean
>>343540527
LIFE IS UNFAIR AND COMPLEX
>>343543074
VLR ending was the same if not a worse example of sequel baiting than ZTD. There might be ideas floating around but I bet there's nothing substantial planned as of yet.
>>343540881
>>What are you doing in the incinerator Phi?
>>Cutting my next album.
Oh holy shit I actually didn't catch what she meant the first time.
Did Anyone else laugh at this scene?
>>343542993
I don't know about Chinese but it's 処女/shojo in Japanese. Even though Kanji is borrowed things are still sometimes spelled differently.
What happened to the "Come to the free the soul conference And I will show you the purpose of the world"?
I fully expected that to be the after credits part but it never came
>>343543074
A fourth game would be a miracle considering that this one was cancelled
![Zero%20Escape_2016-07-02_11-46-13[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/49dtmYH.png "Zero%20Escape 2016-07-02 11-46-13[1]"){kind=small}
anyone know what I'm missing?
>>343543165
The snail is the terrorist that will kill eight billion.
>>343543074
Considering this one barely got made, probably not. Anything's possible though, maybe ZTD will miraculously sell amazingly,
>>343543165
>not posting the complete version
>>343543248
same thing I was missing, just go to the pod room and look on the floor
>>343543225
So this... is the power... of mind hacking...
>>343542931
It was never purple. It's just a result of the different art direction they took
>>343543134
Zero explains:
>all the shifting and no memory of each piled up
>it was like a dam overflowing
>eventually it burst
>when it did everyone who could shift knew what everyone else did
>everything came back in a rush of memories
>they even flashed all the events on screen for all the major players to represent this flood
>it was so everyone else could see what the other saw
>>343542959Delta's tinted glasses
>>343543237
Only mentioned to explain why Akane was wearing Free the Soul robes at the end of VLR
>>343543308
>Maria
I'd like to get off
>>343543325
what a shitty hint. thanks
>>343543386
Why would Delta need purple tinted glasses when his eyes are already purple?
>>343543386
But what about when Delta is fucking dead?
Which team did you pick first /v/?
What is your favorite team?
>>343543271
we all know it's going to be the steam/vita port of 999, don't pretend it's anything else
>>343543354
Why didn't Jumpy have his jacket? His arms looked so fucking bizzare and skeletal it's all I could think about when looking at him.
>>343543308
>Santa
>Maria (also an anagram of a Mira)
Whoa
>>343542914
My feelings exactly. ;_; That's my favorite part of the series, and then they butchered the ending and VLR's story.
>>343542914
Actually, I really hated that part. While I did like that moment in the healing room between them, most of that stuff was just nightmare fuel to me.
Almost wish I could bleach it from my mind.
>>343543492
>>343543517
Questions for the wrong person
>>343543615
Maria is the name of Carlos sister.
>>343543074
This one got miraculously made, so they were already pushing things with this one. I don't know if port sales and new fan interest and sales will be enough to warrant a fourth entry.
Should they make one though? Considering how abysmal things were handled and left, absolutely. Will one happen? Probably not.
>>343542914
budget and time constraints. small team.
========spoilers==========
all xcodesCarlos - DREAM, SHIFT, FIRE, HERO, SAVE, FIGHTJunpei - QUARK, RING, FIVE, HATE*, DOLL, JUMPAkane - KEY, SIX, CRASH, HEAL*, JUNEDiana - BIRD, MOM, MOON, BLUEPhi - TWIN, DEAR, TIME, FUTURE, REDSigma - OLD, ARM, DAD, FATE, MILKQ - SELF, AGE, EYEEric - LAKE, LOVE, ICE, FOOL, POORMira - RIP, HEART, KILL, VIRGIN
=========spoilers==========
>>343543225
>mfw he accidentally mind hacked Eric to shoot the wrong person
>tried to play it cool anyway
>ended up not being able to finish giving his instructions
>>343543554
>tfw carlos was so happy to see junpei and akane again and they just shit on him
>>343543724
I know.
Should I be poking around the healing room or the study? I'm betting the study since I reckon I sequence broke it a bit with some intuition, but asking just in case.
>>343543547
The jacket was too hard to animate so they ditched it
>>343543547
Devs couldn't animate the jacket so they removed it
>>343543524
I played in order of C - D - Q. 1 fragment then on to the next team
D > C >>>> Q
They were all good though, made my experience very fluid
>>343542914
Are you kidding? It was terrible. There was NO chemistry between Sigma and Diana until they were in the goddamn pod room fucking. God. It was so tacked on. Then of course she's pregnant in the next scene, giving birth in the following, and sending the twins into the transporter after that. There's no development. It showed exactly what it needed to to make the bullshit plot make any goddamn sense. Probably some of the worst writing in the series.
While ZTD is lackluster and leaves a lot of questions for the "true end" I still thought it was a fantastic game.
The atmosphere of the game was incredible and I really enjoyed the puzzles. Also the soundtrack is so good holy fuck (the new songs and the remixed ones).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMv5ALR8vQ&list=PLj-ru-1cx_tlMEbtwQ1V4-ATAkfXNHoyD&index=15
>>343543778
1 0 M O N T H S
0
M
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N
T
H
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>>343543237
>>343543391
Is this the "Venom Snake was made just for the purpose of explaining why Big Boss came back in Metal Gear 2" of Zero Escape?
>>343543794
Did you get both notes from the chair thingy that goes upwards? There is a second one that tells you how to create the key (which is extremely unecessary since it's easy as fuck to do) but it's a quest file nonetheless
So why do the X-passes give you a yellow error when you enter them?
>Amazon preorder still not shipped
This is getting a bit ridiculous don't want to pirate since i want trophies on my vita.
>>343543628
Same here, I couldn't stop thinking that in that timelineSigma, Diana and the two infant children of Phi and Delta slowly starved to death over several weeks/months and the fact that they may have eaten Gab to survive or killed and possibly ate the children.
It's a nightmare no matter how you look at it.
>>343543876
That actually made it good. The fact that there was 0 chemistry and it was just a gradual mental breakdown those 10 months and of course stress leads to sex. It was amazing.
>>343542863
Her body is from a different timeline, she doesn't know what happened.
>>343543102
Considering she has the FTS robes on and did go to that meeting as suggesting, of course she knows what happens
>>343543983
????
post screenshot
>>343543628
Your picture reminds me of something that was pretty funny.
>Akane is trying to kill Carlos
>Suddenly leaves the room
>Cuts the lights, giving her no advantage whatsoever
>Revs the chainsaw offscreen like she's Leatherface or something
Akane is too edgy for me.
>>343543983
yellow = it's right
error = you didn't fill them all in.
>>343536860
tes
>>343543775
What, no he didn't. That was his plan.
>>343543996
That's what made it so good for me. It felt so human and realistic. Diana's mental breakdown was spot-on as well.
>>343543996
I like to think after they transported the children, all 4 of them just hopped into the incinerator and went the way of Phi
>>343543994
I preordered using Amazon for the 3ds + watch version. They still haven't shipped it to me and I've already bought and completed the steam version 100%. Maybe I should cancel, not sure what I will do with a shitty watch. But maybe I should keep it anyway.. I don't know...
>>343543524
I chose C Team and went C to Q to D.
I actually liked Q Team. Not as much as C, but I liked Mira when she wasn't identified as a murderer and insane bitch.
>>343543972
That'd be it, thanks. As I recall, I got the numbers for that second chair lift, but I opened the last safe first like an idiot. Figured there'd be one more thing I need to do after getting what's in the safe.
Be honest /v/
Was the game really that bad or is this another case of overhyping the game beyond oblivion and beyond reasonable expectation?
>>343544061
Those robes are hers, they were in 999 too. It's the robe they put on Snake.
>>343543391
That reminds me:
If no one loses their memories at the end of the Radical-6 ending, why is it that they cannot give any information about the decision game to the people of that future? In VLR's ending, the Akane who literally just came back from a meeting with Delta (hence her robe) is talking to Phi, but can't give her any good info.
And if there are multiple timelines where a shifter survives, why can't they just point guns at each other, shift between each ending, write down what happens in the other endings, and shift back?
>>343543876
>there's no chemistry between sigma and Diana
I disagree. Considering what we know from VLR and Luna, the short story of them in Dcom in the booklet, his previous relationship with Diana back when he first went to the moon, and the 11 months of time the story skips, their relationship in ZTD didn't feel forced at all
>>343543971
No, considering someone asked him in the VLR Q&A why Akane was wearing Free the Soul robes and he said that it would be answered in the third game.
>>343543882
Agreed. The ride was great but the ending fell flat
>>343544271
It was a bad zero escape game
but it was a good game.
>>343544271
the game isnt bad people are salty their irrelevant 999 characters didnt appear and that kyle was dropped
>>343541571
Not entirely.
ZTD + the ports (which should be considerably cheaper and easy) could be announced as a funding initiative to see the viability of another volume.
All depends on what they want to do.
You may be thinking "Hey the third volume just game out but we're now working on a fourth!" would be bad, but it all depends on the context.
For instance, look at how Danganronpa is shitting on itself now with ending the original duology with anime entries and 3 being its own separate thing.
>>343543994
I bought it twice
50/50 about that because I've warmed up to the ending since then. On the other hand, this is no way an eighty dollar game. Mine hasn't shipped either
>>343544271
I'm not sure if it was us overhyping it or simply Uchi writing himself into a corner and not realizing it until it was too late.
>>343544271
Game wasn't bad at all, but as the finale to this series it was unfortunately terrible.
>>343544271
It wasn't a terrible game. I just felt that they could have done better than they did, ZTD was probably the weakest game in the series in my opinion.
>>343544271
Game was fantastic but it was extremely overhyped.
>Very small team
>Dev barely got enough funding for the game
>Had to work with the shitton of possibilities from VLR
I mean I thought it was great. True End is pretty dumb but I liked everything else. Especially Carlos.
>>343544271
The problem is that the game suffers from MGSV syndrome. There were many things promised that never came to fruition or were likely cut or changed due to time and budget constraints, Many of the plot threads ended in pants on head retarded ways, and there were things left unexplained. That said, just like MGSV, it was a good game.
You know what really bothers me?
I think this game could've become great on a whole other level with just a slightly larger budget.
The animations weren't THAT bad they just lacked some polish.
>>343543524
D team
Team VLR > Carlos and the Funyarinpas > Team Literally Who
>>343544271
It was pretty good. Uchi did well.
>>343544271
>is the game really that bad?
No, but it's reasonable for some people to be upset about some dropped story elements
>>343544451
I can't imagine anybody except Uchikoshi having to deal with the third point.
The devs just had to build around him.
>>343544406
>Danganronpa is shitting on itself
its really painful to see really. really wanted DR to be something
>>343544451
The "small team" thing is a lie. It had a bigger team than Virtue's Last Reward did.
>>343544505
This game is nowhere near the disappointment that MGS V was. Hell, this game at least has a story
>>343544271
The plot twist and ending were extremely underwhelming, otherwise it was great. Maybe a bit too fanservicey, since at times it seems the point of it all was for Junpei and Akane to end up together and for Sigma, Diana and Phi to be a family again.
Q Team first
D > C > Q
>>343544624
Totally wasted on cinematics that weren't even good because of the terrible animations
I would have vastly preferred the narration style of VLR with more fleshed out dialogue and detail
>>343543524
Carlos>Diana>Q
For both, Though Miratearing Eric's heart outwas a highlight for me.
>>343544527
Absolutely. Hurts to think about what the game could've been had the budget not been so low. I can't imagine all the things Uchi had to cut in his writing. I'm sure he's proud of it overall, but this is definitely not the way he wanted to end it.
>>343543996
It's almost like they were mindbroken at a point. Sure, the candidness of the moment might be enthralling for others, but those months just seemed like one long bad end to me...I feel uncomfortable whenever I look at Team D now.
>"What's wrong Akane? Is that [gingerbread-man shaped button] so interesting?"
>"Oh, I was just remembering how much fun I had baking as a child."
>>343544527
Yeah. Kinda sad.
>>343544406
I'm fine with ZTD being the end of the series, honestly. I'd be happy with a fourth volume but only if it was another standalone; I think ZTD is the weakest of the three largely because of how many characters and plot points we already knew everything about.
Also,
>he thinks standalone DR3 isn't a ruse
>>343544750
I'm sure at this point he's just glad he got to do it
>>343544271
So having played 999 years ago and completely skipping VLR because fuck the Vita, this game's release on PC took me by complete surprise. As such, I went into the game with virtually zero (0) hype and with no idea what happens in VLR, but even then the game seemed great. I'd rate it on par with 999. The worst part was the animation.
I hope someone transcribes or records Uchi's AX panel today. I want to know how he feels about the game as a finished product.
>>343544891
>completely skipping VLR
you dun goof'd
>>343544271
I wouldn't call it good because of how terrible the production values are, and how unsubtle the writing is, but it's still entertaining. Just not worth $40.
Does anyone think this game has been a financial success?
What are the chances the game made enough money back to fund another entry?
>>343544891
Play VLR, it's really fucking good.
>>343544843
If DR 3 isn't standalone I'm done with that series. A sequel anime to 2 is already pushing it, I thought 2 was conclusive enough to end it
>>343544271
They wrapped up only what needed to be wrapped up. Even then, some new things were revealed to be unwrapped. One thing that we were led to think was important, wasn't, or, if it was, was very minimal.
In that way, they abandoned all the fluff that the other two games had.
When you have a lot of fluff that leads to nothing, questions / angry fans arrive.
What was the rule violation that caused Q to try to kill Carlos, Junpei, and Akane? Was it trying to enter the X-Passes from another timeline?
>>343544891
I liked 999 better than VLR. But I like VLR better than ZTD. So there is a chance you'll like VLR more than 999.
>>343543741
Well, maybe it's something else entirely? Perhaps Uchi knows that he didn't properly wrap up everything he promised he would and wants to do something a little more than a Q & A, but not exactly a game.
>>343544271
I can accept the things that people didn't like (except for people not liking Akane's characterization) but despite it all, I really liked it.
>>343544891
>not playing VLR because the vita
it's on 3ds too
>>343544891
Are you able to understand ZTD without playing VLR? I feel there would be so many moments that would be left unexplained.
>>343544406
Why is it bad that Danganronpa is making a fresh start for its 3rd game? The worst I heard about Danganronpa is that the story is bad, so they're rapping it up in an anime for people who like the story, while the 3rd game gets to start with something new for people who like everything else about the series. Seems like a win-win scenario for all fans.
>>343545062
Sean tried to kill Carlos to teach him that he can move to the side. This is an important ability that will come up again in ZE4
>>343545062
Yes
>>343545062
That's the only thing that makes sense really. They did nothing else wrong.
god the voice acting was hit and miss in this, I really should have played in japanese
>sounds like an actual human tier
phi
sigma
>bretty gud tier
carlos
eric
delta
diana
>why tier
mira
akane
>mute tier
sean
junpei
You know what I'm grateful for?
Clover not appearing. We were saved.
TIME TO DECIDE
MARRY KILL FUCK BEFRIEND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8o4si2A5w
>>343544886
Yeah. He's just grateful for that, and ultimately so am I and most people. I just know that this isn't the way he would've liked for it to happen had he the choice. But circumstances suck.
>>343545124
I can only hope for something to lessen the disappointment, but I also am afraid to get my hopes up. We'll see, I guess.
>>343537614
Sean taking the helmet off for the first time.
>>343544705
>since at times it seems the point of it all was for Junpei and Akane to end up together and for Sigma, Diana and Phi to be a family again.
Isn't that what it means to be the closure of the series? 999 ended with Akane missing, and VLR ended without revealing Phi's background. As for minor things like All-Ice and others, they can be answered at QA. The only let down thing was dropping Kyle as plot point.
>>343545274
this, christ, i was dreading the moment her and alice kicked down the door
>>343545289
Is this even a question?
Fuck Mira,
Marry Diana
Befriend Phi
Kill Akane
So fucking simple
>>343545267
I don't know how it sounded in English but most of the Japanese voice acting was pretty good.
>>343545289
>Marry
Diana
>Kill
Akane
>Fuck
Junpei
>Befriend
Gab
>>343545289
KILL FUCK MARRY RAPE
>>343545274
She did appear in a way though. Akane was the Clover of this game.
>>343545289
Marry Phi
Befriend Diana
Fuck Akane
Kill Mira
>>343545289
Marry Kanny!
Fuck Diana
Befriend Phi
REMOVE MIRA
>>343544271
>Be honest /v/
>Was the game really that bad or is this another case of overhyping the game beyond oblivion and beyond reasonable expectation?
It subverts expectations because you expect things from previous games to be resolved in an emotionally satisfying manner.
Junpei/Akane's relationship isn't really satisfied. Akane comes off as a massive hypocrite in this game and Junpei clearly can't handle how he currently sees Akane now despite that he still cares for her.
Mira's epilogue file makes no sense. There is no reason for her to stop being a serial killer, much less hook up with Eric in prison.
The game just stops making sense and hamfists good endings everywhere. It's really disappointing.
>>343536860
>implying there is a "true" end
>>343537614
Literally every moment Gab walked into the vent.
Did you read the file at the end with Gab? He justsleeps on a rug in the vent since the vents are all together
>>343544807
What? I missed this line. I need to see this.
>>343544951
I think he's going to be happy about it publicly simply because it wouldn't have been made at all without the help of the public outcry. Even with shit budget and some dropped things, things were able to end.
>>343545289
>Kill Akane right away, before she kills your ass
>>343545289
Marry Diana
Kill Mira
Fuck Akane
Befriend Phi
Marry Phi
Fuck Mira
Befrend Akane
Kill Diana
>>343545267
wtf? Sean's was good.
Why the fuck doesn't the literal serial killer psycho bitch die at the true ending of ZTD?
The fuck she's just going to kill Eric like 3 days after the true ending anyway.
>>343543524
C>Q>D
You know it to be true.
>>343545046
>If DR 3 isn't standalone I'm done with that series
there is 0 chance it will be a stand alone. the hinted mastermind looks like a return character and DR:2 and DR:AE didn't conclude the previous story. the anime is either going to discuss how DR2 characters went to despair or mokoto on trial so its not going to tie things up.
DR is pretty bad as a whole.
>>343538340
>yelling 12 inches
Old news anon, everyone knows it's 18 inches now.
>>343545289
Marry
Diana because best girl in the series
Fuck
Akane
Befriend
Phi
Kill
Mira I guess
Marry PHI-SAMA
Kill Mira
Befriend Akane
...
.....
Befriend Diana
>>343545608
read the filesI agree she should die tho
>>343545548
Agreed.
>>343545608
Read the files, Anon.
>>343545608
If you read the after-game files, Mira turns herself in and tries to atone. She also goes back in time to kill the snail
All of you people killing Mira should realize she will probably be the best sex of your life, since she's so crazy.
>>343545757
as the old saying goes
Never stick your dick in crazy
>>343538340
>12 inches
It's 18
Thread soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5UHrL66Xpk&list=PLj-ru-1cx_tlMEbtwQ1V4-ATAkfXNHoyD
>>343545289
Kill Akane
Befriend Phi
Marry Diana
Fuck Mira
>>343545757
i feel like there's a saying about this
>>343545757
She has no sexual experience and doesn't even feel positive emotions aside from smug. I doubt it'd be anything great.
>>343545469
>>343545494
>>343545548
>>343545695
You all fucked up. She's coming for you now.
>>343545289
Fuck Phi
Kill Mira
Marry Akane
Befriend Luna
Objectively the best
>>343545757
Mira is a literal psychopath with no emotions. She would probably just lay there.
I goddamned hate that this trash turns me on. Is it the size difference that turns me on, or am I just that fucked up?
>>343544271
I loved it.
Fight me
>>343545940
She'd make the baby to feel its heart.
>>343545801
>>343545895
I swear you fucking SHIFTers are always so...
>>343545289
Marry Akane
Befriend Diana
Fuck Mira
Kill Phi
>>343538602
Delta thirsty as fuck
>>343539840
How come no one realises Delta gave Carlos the gun sothere is a second timeline exactly like the one they escaped they can use as a failsafe
Who here /Delta did nothing wrong/?
>>343545932
In a good way? :^)
>>343545289
Marry Phi
Fuck Akane
Befriend Diane
Kill Mirawith my dick
>bruteforce my way through biolab incubated puzzle
>second time playing it
>notice I didn't even get the capsules the first time around
>still see no use to them, even though they clearly correlate to the computer display screen
>leave computer to grab a glass of water
>come back to the item menu with the capsules on
>it all makes sense now
fuck
someone post the Delta foreshadowing
>Go through all the first set of fragments
>Each team gets like 6 more
>Go through those 6
>Nothing new
>3-4 locked fragments in each route
What do I do
Uhh, Junpei did just drop the fact that he destroyed Free the Soul alongside Seven, wut? And Akane is just surprised about all this?
>>343546089
Murder Akane
Incinerate Kanny
My favorite part of these games is the journey. Walking through a mystery and trying to make sense of the situation; sorting through the possibilities and identifying the red herrings. But ZTD's first twelve hours(2/3s of the game) is:
-Choose Fragment
-Watch Short Discussion
-Escape Puzzle Room
-Watch Aftermath
-Repeat
Which wouldn't be that bad if the story wasn't presented out of order so every outcome wasn't robbed of it's significance. The way the game is laid out is immensely unsatisfying to me. Every scene I'd watch would exist in a microcosm and every decision, every death, every outcome was meaningless at the time. There was no suspense and very little intrigue for each timeline. Add onto that the chore of doing all 13 puzzle rooms up front and only 1 of them having anything to do with the main plot and much of the game felt like busywork. That I had to burn time to get somewhere where things would start mattering. Most VLR puzzle rooms had exposition to get out. Aside from the transporter room, the other rooms with significance only had items dropped in them so certain endings could happen or for cleaner exposition later.
The last 1/3 of the game I started to enjoy, but without an enjoyable journey, it felt empty. Very few reveals were properly built up.
And while I agree by those disappointed with 999/VLR plot threads unanswered, they say "But other than that, I had a blast" and I feel like the only one who hated the way the game was designed.
>>343541741
I have the 3DS version waiting for me to finish the last part of VLR. What's so bad about it ?Except the graphics, obviously
>>343546118
I'm on the Delta is Ocelot bandwagon.
>>343546118
Delta best hero!
>>343546206
He blew up one of their bases. He didn't destroy the organization.
>>343546196
Stop bullshitting Eric.
Also, get all of the voting result executions and give everyone a shower.
>>343545940
>literally says sexu
>use a euphemism for some reason
nice job localizers
>>343544271
Would have been a fine game if VLR didn't give me a lot of expectations, like painting a specific image of Free The Soul, Brother and Left to me, just not none of be realized.
Guys, I just sequence breaked ZTD by guessing Zero isDelta and now there's this wheelchair bound man that appeared out of nowhere, this is the first time I've heard or seen this character.
![15355133-Four-shadows-jump-on-roadway-Stock-Photo-people-shadow-group[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bPbadiY.jpg "15355133-Four-shadows-jump-on-roadway-Stock-Photo-people-shadow-group[1]")
>>343546164
>>343546331
I have to actually press the button?
Fuck
>>343545289
>Not killing Diana outright.
Daily reminder that this woman would rather kill 6 billion people than ride a lift alone.
>Mira haters
>>343546391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUCfX1P1ik
anyone know the x-code(s) from the booklet?
>>343546164
29) When the Crash Keys twitter account was revealing the images of the participants of the decision game, they never revealed Sean.
30) There are a lot of Xes. X-doors, X-passes, etc. X is the roman numeral for 10.
31) (UNCONFIRMED) If you choose to shoot no one during the 3 way face off, you can see a little bit of the wheel chair.
32) In the C Team Execution Decision fragment, Carlos calls out for Mira and Eric through the vent, but not Q. Credit goes to Lumsyl.
33) When Q team goes to sleep, there are 4 thumps, not 3.
34) When Carlos seems to know Zero's identity in the beginning, it is presumably because he notices that there is one person missing (Q), so he makes the connection.
35) When at the Bar before the execution, and Sean asks where they were, they mentioned that "We all lived at Dcom. C team and D team were there too." Rather than "Both of us lived at Dcom."
36) The segment called "triangle" where there is a stand-off between Sean, Eric, and Mira. The Greek letter delta is a triangle.
37) How obsessed this game seems with 3. There are 3 teams (all of which we think have 3 members). The answer to the Monte Hall problem is locker 3. There are 3 survivors of the VLR timeline (without the time travel shenanigans). There are 3 x 2 shifters in the game. This is the 3rd game in the series. Delta, as mentioned, is a triangle symbol, with 3 sides.
>>343546110
So he basically gave them a checkpoint
I don't think it's been established that espers can only jump to choice junctions.
Remember the Dio ending in VLR
>>343546391
Oh believe me, it makes really no difference between knowing now and knowing later. It's one of those things when you find out about who he is and where he is during the game you look out for it, but you will almost never notice it normally.
>>343546261
shit graphics, smaller screen, some slowdown
It's the same game and not a huge deal but presentation still matters a lot in this type of game.
>>343546242
Didn't you enjoy the game? Pretty sure you'd be lying if you said you'd not.
Everyone agrees that it was a lesser game. But Jesus himself came back from the dead just to make sure the sequel happened at all.
>>343546242
The fragment system, along with showing the actual deaths instead of describing them vividly like in 999, just made me stop caring about when people died.
>>343545328
If anything that made me depressed.
>people think that only because it was "foreshadowed" the twist is a good one
>>343546118
>I didn't kill anybody.
>Call the cops I don't give a fuck.
>Does that make you angry Phi?
One of my favorite parts of the whole game.
>>343546731
it makes me slightly less mad at it at least.
>>343546391
Looks like you were too perceptive for your own good
>>343546596
Monty Hall problem is randomized. Just saying.
>>343546510
>being surprised that a mother would rather kill a shit ton of people than let her child die
Sounds like you had a shitty mom, anon.
Or maybe I just have a crazy one
>>343546762
>yfw he mind hacked Eric to kill him in the true end so he wouldn't shift with them because of resonance
>>343538214
They all mean something butthey're irrelevant
I'll post all the ones I had from my notes, dunno if I forgot to write any downSet 1
C - FIRE CRASH FIVE
Q - EYE KILL FOOL
D - MOON Future FATE
Set 2
C - DREAM KEY QUARK
Q -
D - MOM DEAR ARM
Set 3?
C - Fire Crash Five
Q - ? ? Ice
D - ? Time Dad
set 4
C - Fight June Jump
Q - Bro Virgin Poor
D - Blue Red Milk
Set 5
C - Hero Hex ?
Q - Eye Kill Future
D - ? Future ?
Set 6
C -
Q - Self Rip Lake
D - Bird Twin Old
Set 7
C - Shift six ring
Q - Age Heart Love
D -
Set 8
C - Save ? Doll
Q - Eye Kill fool
D - Moon ? Fate
>>343546708
It's such a great twist though. Whole time you're wondering who's under that thing and then bam. Super sad ending too.
HEY
HEY GUYS
WHAT IF WE RELEASE RADICAL 6 -AND- FANATIC BIO R?
>>343537923
>>343537817
zero's shadow comes from between sigma and diana, beak points at 4, 4th letter is delta
>>343546391
It's a complete ass-pull, and the funny part is it doesn't even affect the plot for the characters. For the characters, Q was always the old man in the chair so it wasn't even a revelation for them, except apparently they were all too stupid to consider the creepy guy in the chair could be faking his inability to see, hear and move. They sure are a bunch of dumb-dumbs.
No, it's a screw meant for the player, to make you literally unable to guess the identity of Zero until his reveal, because he was never even introduced as a character
Someone please make a webm of laughing Eric after you tell him that Zero is Gab
The animation is so atrocious its funny
Did anyone else answer the Monty Hall problem correctly by switching but still not get the mask? I got fucked by that random 10% chance
>>343546626
Everyone downloaded from themorphogenic feel at the FQB and one of the shifters can return to the decision once they know who the terrorist is.
>>343546852
>Q - Bro Virgin Poor
>Q -Bro
jesus fucking christ
>>343546838
It can't be any of the nine participants, it can't be Gabeven though I guess Gab for every "Who Murdered X?" decision,who else could it have been but this one character unaccounted for?
![821c9cc68adefc33543161e2a9cea7ba[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/a88UHPl.jpg "821c9cc68adefc33543161e2a9cea7ba[1]")
Who here thought the game would end up being in a simulation due to that Q ending?
Especially with those grainy snow screen outro's I fully expected there to be some plottwist where all the timelines were just simulations on a quantum computer and everyone was just asleep since the first coin was tossed.
>>343546843
As far as I remember she didn't know that at the time.
I just got the reality password from Zero(the numbered one)
Where do I use it?
>>343546917
FBR doesn't even exist.
>>343547007
>mira and eric casually refer to sean as sean the entire game
>except we never once see it
What a load of fucking bullshit.
>>343546889
That ending:
>OH NO MY HEAD FELL OFF
>[end]
Everywhere else:
>OH NO MY HEAD FELL OFF
>[put it back on]
>mfw
>>343546596
>When Q team goes to sleep, there are 4 thumps, not 3.
How does a wheelchair-bound man thump?
So why didDelta offer the handgun to Carlos? As far as I can tell Delta fully completed all of his plans for that timeline so living or dying accomplishes literally nothing. Inb4 to prevent the release of Radical-6, I am like 99% sure Brother only releases it if the SHIFTers fail the Decision Game.
>>343547019
>studied Monty Hall problem before and knew to switch
>still got it wrong
>took me 8 shots to get a blank round during the gun segment
Probability is not on my side.
>>343545757
t. eric
>>343545328
>Expecting Quark the whole time no matter what other crazy shit came up
>removes it
>it's literally nothing
>LITERALLY NOTHING.
>>343547149
It's a bad end because now he's in this facility by himself and also his entire life is a lie.
>>343546731
I liked the twist regarding Zero's identity. Just not the whole mind hacking and complex motives bullshit.
>>343547158
slumps forward in his chair, making a thump noise as he hits his upper legs.
>>343546708
Me too anon, me too...
>>343547202
I failed the monty hall twice in a row and the gunshot 6 times in a row. I'm a lucky boy
>>343547149
It's the first time it happens though.
>>343547202
>50:50 chance to shoot sigma
>have to try like 10 times for him to die
I am the king of Russian Roulette.
Is it a coincidence that there are 10 pieces to the heart puzzle?
>>343546007I'm in the same exact boat, anon. Size differences AND non-consensual shit gets me going, and I really hate it. Only if it's obviously fake when real people are involved, of course, the real deal is just sick.
SO WHAT DO I DO AFTER I GO THROUGH THE REALITY BRANCH WITH Q AND ZERO GIVES ME THAT LONG ASS NUMBERED PASSWORD
WHERE DO I USE IT
>>343547130
But how does that explain when Q team injects Radical-6 into themselves and survive?
>>343547373
I was wondering something concerning 10, what does the anagram on the wall involving 10 even mean? I actually can't think of anything.
>>343546889
IT WAS SO OBVIOUS
The power button on his sock, Mira stabs him and he doesn't bleed, he shakes the force quit box like it's fucking nothing when big old Sigma can barely move it, ugh
All of the fucking twists in this were so predictable other than Delta which was just complete bullshit
>>343547425
You use it in several places. :^)
>>343547425
Are you fucking stupid? Sean shows you what the code is for.
new thread when?
Who else actually liked the terrible animation?
I can't put my finger on why though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kVwCXrQZ4&index=5&list=PLj-ru-1cx_tlMEbtwQ1V4-ATAkfXNHoyD
>>343547202
I knew about the monty hall problem too and chose to stay because fuck the monty hall problem, it's horseshit.
I died, funnily enough. Then I changed next time and got it right first time.
>>343547271
That ending:
>OH NO MY ENTIRE LIFE IS A LIE
>[end]
Everywhere else:
>OH NO MY ENTIRE LIFE IS A LIE
>[put head back on]
>mfw
>>343547425
You saw what the number was used for so wait until you can enter in the same place again.
>>343547425
Sean literally shows you how to use it.
Now go find the decision.
DUDEALIENSLMAO
DUDEHE WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME BUT WE DIDN'T SEE HIMLMAO
>>343547551
It's not horseshit you're just retarded
>>343547536
The whole game had an air of old pre-rendered PC adventure games. I loved it.
>>343547536
Yeah I warmed to it. It's charming in it's own way.
>>343546851
Holy shit.
The aliens was really asspull.
Couldn't they just make it that Delta made a time machine by himself within his 100+ years of reading minds of people that see the future or something?
Why do they have to fucking get aliens involved into this story.
>>343547581
>>343547578
Well the issue is I'm stuck. It's not for the mexican stand-off, is it?
>>343547648
Evidently I am, I understand it from a statistical standpoint but it still fucking bugs the shit out of me.
>>343547202
>Got the monty hall problem right on second try.
>Got a blank on my second try.
>got three die rolls on third try.
>>343547551
Monty Hall is pretty real.
>>343547536
>>343547670
>>343547694
they should've factored in the janky animation as a plot point somehow.
>>343547765
read post 22 here http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/175993-zero-escape-zero-time-dilemma/73957774?page=2
it's not that code you need to use, probably the room specific stuff in that post you need to check
>>343547584
It's like I'm really watching bad anime
>>343547758
because............. TIME TRAVEL
you will never make sense of time travel. ever.
>>343547705
That's also the reason he killed Gab, so no one would feel bad about leaving him behind.
>>343547758
Why was an ancient mummy involved in the first one?
>>343547536
i liked carlos' faces
>>343547865
2 bad senpai, i understand it intuitively, and the jump from 3 doors to 10 makes it easier to intuitively understand as well
That final decision was so stupid.B-but we will be kill innocent versions of ourselves.Yeah you dumb cutn, what we have been doing the whole fucking time anyway.
Why even bring up half the concepts they did if they're never fucking used? The parasites, Sleeping Beauty paradox, and other sit I forgot, is never mentioned at all beyond their fragments. Compared to the impact Schrodinger's Cat had on VLR's story, or all of the Ice-9, Titanic stories, crystallized glycerin shit tying into the twist of 999, it's weak as hell.
>Search for ZTD on steam top sales list.
>It's on fucking page 6 behind company of heroes 2.
RIP Uchikoshi.
"PlayStation TV compatible"
So, /v/, now that Zero Escape is dead, who was the Meme Overlord of the series?
>>343547007
That's not what asspull mean. It was foreshadowed many times, see >>343546702
>>343546596
You guys are just too used to Zero being one of the contestant so the though of Zero is a new character didn't occur in your mind.
>>343547551
It's not bullshit. You picked a locker with a 1/10 chance of being right. Then the other 9 lockers are collapsed into a single choice, meaning there's a 9/10 chance it's that one. That's the basic way of explaining it.
>>343547874
I think the dice is rigged to land correctly on the third try. That's how long it took me, too. I doubt they'd make players roll 216+ times.
Does anybody have a picture of the BECOME ME poster, it's so cute
>>343548058
>implying pcfags buy games
>>343547479
There were 10 people participating in the game. Also the left over words from the anagram can be rearranged to make "Delta".
>>343548041
Probably budget cuts.
>>343547460
Radical 6 takes a shitload of time to work
>>343548058
It was in the top sellers at one point, don't worry.
>>343538214
this is what I got
also what did Mira had..virginas a x-pass?
>>343547185
Clearly not all since I have a Q one they didn't post. though i never found heal or hate from what I recall
What is the name of the track that had the sound of a femal voice?
>>343546731
>the twist is a good one
No one said that. The anon probably brought that to counter the other anon that said it was an asspull.
"THE FUCK!?" was one of the most perfectly delivered lines in history of videogames.
>>343548198
also see >>343543752
>Phi got her brooch from her mother
>Diana got the brooch from Phi
>Phi is named after herself
>>343548014
>Choose to let everyone die in the explosion.
>Phi, Diana, Sigma, holding hands.
>Everybody content to great death.
>All around heartwarming, if not a little bit sad moment.
>game over
>>343548124
>>343548259
What was the purpose of this again?
>>343548237
>femal
rule 63 jamal?
>>343547479
>I actually can't think of anything.
Really? There's 10 participants. Just like always
>>343548259
Zero is CUTE!what did this mean?
>>343544271
It was a great game, and I'd say it was still a great Zero Escape game. That being said I'm disappointed about how many things from VLR went unexplained or only briefly mentioned. I'm not a huge fan of Eric and Mira as characters and some of the returning characters felt out of character compared to how they were in VLR or 999. The puzzles were good, but there were things like the pattern boxes that were reused a few times. Not to mention the lack of any final puzzle.The music was great, but there wasn't enough new music, and this is more of a nitpick than anything but I feel like Blue Bird was used way too much during D-Team's scenes. Overall a disappointing finale but a great game, I don't think it's as good as the other two though.
>>343548352
To tell you you need to try to make the number say "0" in the puzzle in the pod room.
Do they ever explicitly call Sean Q?
I could have sworn that they did, but I'm guessing I just figured they did. I'm guessing they always went with "kid" or something.
>>343548352
Become me
Become 0
You need to put the numbers to zero in the door
>>343548172
I'm pretty sure Zero says that it can take from 10 minutes up to 2 hours to work. But Q team ends up fine.
>>343548152
You can't blame budget cuts for Uchikoshi's bad writing.
>>343548259
I want to believe that after the true end sigma and diana put deltas conciousness into this deformed zero thing and raised him and phi together
>>343548338
But then who had the brooch in the first place?
Fucking chicken and eggs.
>>343548110
Okay lets not get into the monty hall problem because this shit causes wars. I knew about the 9/10 "chance" but my opinion if the other 8 lockers weren't there in the first place, it would have been 50/50. I was just being a dick to the game to see if it was actually chance
>>343548352Because you were supposed to change the vault door to 0.
>>343548352
>>343548408
There's a puzzle in pod room to make the number become zero.
How do I find the code for the quantum computer? i already got the one for the C team box and i've exhausted all other trees. i thought it was going to be the twins birthdays but it didn't work
>>343548338
>>343548520
Bootstrap paradox
>>343548456
Yup, they never call him a name during the segments, you just assume he's Q.
>>343548454
>>343548472
I found out you had to make 0 by pure accident.
>>343548105
>You guys are just too used to Zero being one of the contestant so the though of Zero is a new character didn't occur in your mind.
No one could have possibly predicted it. Even someone who theoretically realized someone else was in the room would know nothing of their identity.
It's cheating.
The music transition during the game was really jarring. Couldn't they put some transition software filter on it or anything?
This isn't even a budget thing. Uchikoshi could've done this with his personal laptop in his free time within hours.
Makes me quite mad familia.
>>343548454
>>343548472
Wow, I just made that assumption when I started playing it. They even hint it when you screw up.
It's like that useless key-building blueprint in the study room.
>>343539428
>>Diana and Sigma pick the exact time and date needed to transport their kids
wrong, they picked a random date in the past
I don't read the thread to avoid spoilers
But I just started ZTD after finishing VLR
Is there any way to skip the text like in VLR? the skip thing in the options seems to skip several lines at once and it's unskippable if it's off
>>343548434
>the puzzles were good
>8 fucking sliding block puzzles
>3 or 4 matching all the patterns on this object "puzzles"
>4 or 5 rearranging these things by putting the biggest pieces first puzzles
It felt like I was playing a later Professor Layton game with all of the fucking recycling.
>>343548456
no, in fact, whenyou kill Delta in the 3 way standoff he specifically says I always called you Sean or something like that
>>343548338
The whole Sigma/Diana/Phi thing was brilliant. Really well done time travel plot twist that felt mostly organic.
>>343548456
There was a note near the end of the game saying that Sean was never called anything other than Sean.
Reminder that Gab was going to be Kyle but >budget cuts
>>343548110
I believe the game rigs the Monty Hall problem.
The task isn't to ensure victory, just answer the problem correctly (by switching) then letting the player move on.
>>343548556
You have to re-do some of the execution votes so you can see all of the execution scenes (the ones you've seen will glow on the global flowchart). Viewing all of them unlocks additional fragments.
>>343548556
I had the same problem. You have to trigger ALL dead scenes in the voting round. Do this by voting for whatever team is still greyed out.
>>343548198her first victim is named virginia
>>343548834
It doesn't rig the problem, I make the right decision by switching but lost because I switched away from the mask the first time I tried it.
>>343548628
That's why it's called a twist.
>>343547202
>shoot sigma
>blank happy feel-good times
>shoot Sigma
>blank
>shoot sigma
>blank
>shoot sigma
>finally the song changes to a more tragic one
>Phi shows how much of a compassionate and supportative woman she is by telling Diana it's all her fault
>Diana kills herself on the spot
>bad end
I feel cheated
>>343543225
yeah, it was so absurd.
I could walk through a ghetto neighborhood yelling 'I hate niggers' and basically I will have the same powers.
>>343548923
I mean if you switch, the game ensures it instead of 90%.
>>343549006
Would've been more interesting if the suicide attempt by Diana was a blank round.
>tfw I will never understand the Monty Hall problem
I mean, I understand the theory around it but not why changing should give you a better percentage in reality
>>343548834
If you switch you have a 90% chance of getting the right locker. So you still have a 10% chance of not getting the right locked.
>>343548740
Don't hold the button, press it on interval 1 seconds or so.
>>343549125
I know.... if it was rigged, I would not be able to switch and die, yet, it happened to me.
>>343548841
wtf i did it every way in the beginning and i'm somehow supposed to know to go back and do them again, unprompted? this game has a lot of bullshit in it
>>343543524
C - Q - D
the only correct order.
>>343549131
I'm pretty sure a blank round point blank will still fuck you up
Didn't we se pre-release something about sigma telling diana to use her finger to prevent the bullet from flying or something? Why wasn't that in the game?
>>343549006
>Phi 5 minutes earlier
SIGMA THINK ABOUT HOW DIANA WOULD FEEL IF YOU HAD HER SHOOT YOU
>After Sigma dies
DIANA YOU MURDERER, MURDERER!
>>343549154
You actually "feel" the monty hall problem.
If you have 1000 doors you pick one and i open 998 you can almost feel destiny pulling you towards that single door I didn't open yet.
this also happens with 3 doors but you just don't notice it so readily.
>>343549070
>>343549171
Well then.
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