I dare /v/ to name a better stealth game
Any MGS
>>343531178
Blood Money.
>>343531178
Thief is great, but it has it's flaws, and there are a lotof really good stealth games. I would say that you can't really pick an absolute best stealth game. Same with any genre really.
>>343531178
Thief Gold.
>>343531178
Literally impossible. Thief 2 is perfect.
>>343531178
Thief Gold ;)
>>343531178
Styx; master of shadow
>>343531178
You have bested me.
I applaud you
I like Chaos Theory more.
Undertale
How about something made in the last 15 years, gramps
>>343531501
But anon, the pinnacle of rpg came out last year
>>343531975
Chaos Theory is great but I feel like it's more restricted than Thief 1 and 2. PC version looks great tho.
>>343531616
2 is an objectively better stealth game because it focuses more on actual stealth.
>>343532175
2 shitty
>>343531257
mgs is a good stealth game but its nowhere near best (as a stealth game).
>>343531259
>>343531975
They are in the same league but personally I like Thief II more.
>>343532175
fucking neo v reee
>>343532289
As opposed to artificial stealth?
>>343531178
Fable had good sneaking
>>343532484
As opposed to zombie slaying with shitty Dark Camelot combat.
>>343532289
>implying more = better
The first game benefited from changing things up. With other thieving related activities.
>>343531178
modded oblivion
>>343531178
>I dare /v/ to name a better stealth game
>posts Thief II
A pointless thread.You know that there is no such thing.The only other game that comes close is Thief Gold and it is still essentially Thief.
I guess that it will be a good b8 thread to pull out all MGS babies from the woodworks. Have fun.
>>343532627
So what you're saying is you're too pleb to sneak past zombies?
>>343531178
Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake
Shinobi Do
>>343532627
Avoiding combat in those levels is as simple as not equipping the sword.
>>343532774
>implying you need to sneak past zombies
You can just turn a corner and hide in the shadows for a bit, they'll give up. I was terrified of Return to the Cathedral until I realized that you can circle-strafe haunts easy and zombies are chumps.
Thief 2 would be a better game if they kept the engine bug from the first game where jumping makes you pick up speed.
>>343534250
What did you do that for, anon?
>>343534075
It's called strafejumping, newfriend.
>>343531178
why Karras speaks like he has a yuuuuge cock in his mouth?
>>343534395
It isn't strafejumping. You gain speed simply by jumping repeatedly, there's no need for moving your mouse or pressing different movement keys in a particular pattern.
>>343534664
It's called bunnyhopping. There's proper strafejumping in Thief Gold too, I know it because I did it.
>>343534384
I had to prove him wrong
>>343531178
None. Karras hath forged me... perfectly. I am the holy vessel that pleases The Builder. Praise Karras.
>>343534662
Because it's a personal flaw that would push him to becoming a maniacal cult leader.
>>343531178
>>343535823
EYE is many things but a good stealth game it is not.
>>343535823
EYE is not a stealth game. The developers themselves admit that it has basically no stealth mechanics.
It's a weird cyberpunk version of Serious Sam if anything.
>>343536203
>>343537521
>Game has no stealth mechanics
>Mentor chastises you for making waves
thi4f was great
>>343532467
IMO Blood Money isn't in the same league as other stealth games since it's "in plain sight" stealth and involves blending in and evading guards more than sneaking and hiding in shadows.
Splinter cell 1-3 and Thief 1-3 are in the same league though i really cant decide which series i like more.
Also Tenchu is an honorable mention though it's not as refined as the other two. if we got a proper modern Tenchu that wasn't half-assed through it's entire development it could make for a really good stealth game.
>>343539130
doesnt mean that its a stealth game
Not in terms of levels, but The Dark Mod has better stealth mechanics than Thief II or Gold
TDM with Thief II levels would be God tier
Also it's free software, which brings out my inner /g/entooman
The Forbidden Siren series, Manhunt 2
>>343540032
It lacks good sound effects, which is essential for Thief.
What are other essential Looking Glass games?
>>343539670
Dishonored without powers
>>343542464
Doesn't even have basic light/dark mechanics (which Dark Messiah had wtf arkane).
>>343542609
Dark Messiah's stealth was worse. It had light and dark but it never felt consistent in how it worked. I could stand in a seemingly dark area and it would say I'm visible, or I could stand in a place that's bright by comparison but it would say I'm partially hidden. At that point why bother? Not to mention the game still funnels you into fighting things.
>>343531178
pro tipyou can't [/spoiler
>>343543452
I think Arkane intended Dark Messiah stealth to be a nice bonus when you are bored of combat and magic, or for a few *teleport behind you* *unsheathes katana* sequences.
>>343543541spoiler
Is this theonly realstealth game we've had in recent years?
>>343543675
I agree, I just think that DM's stealth was overall less fun than Dishonored's, even if Dishonored's was more simple.
Are the tafferpatcher new textures any good?
>>343545128
Not really.
>>343543904
>first playthrough
>nokill & ghost run with all side objectives
>relict in the prison is impossible to get
fuck that shit
>>343545334
What about the other enhancements? Are Enhanced skies, water, or the enhancement pack worth getting?
>>343545408
None of them are going to make it not look like a dark engine game. Some of the enhanced assets look out of place though. I think enhanced skies is fine but at the same time it's probably not even something you'd notice whether you use it or not.
>>343545735
Last question, should I use the resource fix pack?
>>343545886
IIRC it replaces things like character models even though it doesn't say it does, but that may have been changed at some point. I've never been inconvenienced by not using it.
Whatever you do stay away from the "HD Texture Mod" for each game, they're very ugly.
>>343531259
I wouldn't really call Hitman a stealth series, it's more of a unique disguise game.
>>343546221
I'm not a fan of HD texture mods in general.
>>343532175
This proves the point even more
>no game has the sound engine like this game
>only a few games have an Ai as complex as this game
Thief 1 and 2 will never be topped as a stealth series duo. They are practically inseparable. Saying Thief 2 is a perfect stealth game is true but its only perfect in the context of playing BOTH Thief 1 and Thief 2 because of how naturally it progresses.
>>343546915
>>343546221
There is a mod with fixes the colors, not the resolution, because the textures were on a lower color bits, cant remember if it was 8 or 16.
Its what makes the shading very bad, and make dark colors look bad.
But i agree with fampai, stay away from any HD.
>>343547902
I believe that's tafferpatcher itself, or rather Newdark, which tafferpatcher installs.
>>343548104
Sorry i cant tell, but i remember seing comparison pics (pic is not related to this).
The last time i played it was years ago, even before tafferpatch was a thing.
>>343548367
Either way, that's something which is fixed with newdark.
>>343548845
Then forget what i said and prise KARRAS.
>>343548845
newdark was made with the sourcecode by one of the original devs
it upped like the max polycount for the engine from like 1000 to 10000 just to name some small changes
praise newdark
>>343549037
Is that how they were able to merge a bunch of maps for SS2?
>mfw finding out that the VA for Garrett also did Karras and Benny the drunken guard
>>343531178
DX: HR
>>343531178
Give me 5 detailed points why Thief is the greatest stealth game
>>343550436
>mfw rememberingtony jay is dead
>>343550436
Daily reminder that Stephen "when I speak ladies drop their panties" Russell is voicing Corvo in Dishonored 2.
>>343550798
that's too much effort so i'll let some other autist to that
-emphasis on not only hiding in the shadows, but noise with the material you walk on making different sounds where footsteps on tile travel further than noise on carpet
-spooky atmosphere in a weird steampunk world
-god tier level design
-lovable MC
-good set of tools to traverse levels like rope arrows to climb to high places, water arrows to douse out torches, moss arrows to sneak through loud areas, flash bombs, etc
>>343550798
It's good
I like it
It's fun
It's rad
Rope arrows
>>343551393
I feel like this isn't such a big deal. Maybe my expectations are too high with the capability of video games.