Where did he get this picture? Had to have been pre Shadow the Hedgehog, but Shadow went MIA after SA2.
>>343522421
They're behind Chris' mansion meaning Sonic X is canon.
>>343522605
Chris is canon!?
>>343522421
It isn't a photo. It's a painting.
The president admired them, so he requested a picture about them
Doesn't that basically confirm that ShTH takes place after Heroes?
>>343523385
Why would that even be questioned?
>>343523385
how so? And I thought that was the way it was, so why was it different before?
>>343522421
Sometime after Heroes?
Shadow and Sonic seemed to be getting along then
>>343522421
Shadow doesn't take place immediately after Heroes, so they met up for a quick photo-op.
Heroes and Battle take place between SA2 and ShTH, so probably before/after one of those.
>>343523838
Battle takes place after Shadow, as evidenced by Shadow having all his memories.
>>343523838
Wait, real talk, is Battle still canon if all the echidna stuff were wiped, including the Nocturns and Gizoids?
>>343524037
Gizoids are fine and are "canon". It's the "techno-fetish enchiladas hidden in a pocket dimension" crap that caused the shitshow.
>>343524037
Chronicles and all material within are still Sega property. Sega themselves are perfectly fine with, say, the comics using Chronicles material. The reason why it's not is because Archie doesn't want to defend against another lawsuit, even if it's bogus, and the games have been in "nobody but the Genesis-era characters" mode for the past six years.
>>343524332
but one created the other iirc, right?
>>343524724
So the games can still use them but not Archie?
>>343524916
Of course the games can use them, they just don't want to. Penders would probably sue again but he'd get laughed out of court again.
>>343524916
The Gizoids were created for Battle, and at that point they were limited to just Emerl. Chronicles invented the stuff about the Gizoids being inventions of the techno-echidnas.
Shadow the Hedgehog COULD have been good. Artstyle and edge aside, how can it be improved from a gameplay perspective to be better?
>>343524916
Archie can use Gizoids. Gemerl showed up during Worlds Unite and has a place during the Unleashed Finale. There's also Fixit, who's Gizoid based.
As long as they don't refer to the Nocturnus clan, they're fine.
>>343525227
Ah ok. DESU Emerl was one of my favorite characters, so I'm kinda happy to hear that.
>>343525140
>Having a larger a margin of error for collectaton levels, for example having to kill only 30 aliens out of 45 in Westopolis
>Having a map/radar to make it easier to find the objective, and to make the ARK flashback levels slightly less shit
>Having more interesting Neutral paths instead of just being a boring, straight path to the goal
>Actually remove all levels that involve you finding/killing a certain number of things with no neutral path, or just rework them completely
>Have Shadow not control like slippery shit
>Make Chaos Control the time stop variant on regular levels
>>343525140
how about make every mission not
>collect/destroy X objects
>destroy all enemies of one faction
or
>get to the goal ring
There were also some looping levels that were better than others. The inside ARK in the past levels were really wierd
>>343523385
>Doesn't that basically confirm that ShTH takes place after Heroes?
duh?
even Battle comes after ShTH
>>343524037
yes, SA3 included
Chronicles however is currently ignored by SEGA and was declared non-canon by a certain official IIRC
I thought Shadow was immediately after Heroes? So there'd be no time for this picture, right?
>>343525140
>how can it be improved from a gameplay perspective to be better?
just turn it into a NGB/DMC3/GoW-clone
>>343526913
ShTH is set after Heroes, correct. But not immediately.
>>343522421
>Where did he get this picture?
Are you seriously asking that? This could have easily been taken after Heroes.
>>343525140
Ratchet and Clank clone, but faster. Instead of guns and shit he unlocks Chaos powers.
How many timelines do Sonic games have? Just games.
>>343527229
Two. The main one, and 06 which self-aborted.
>>343524037
Nocturne was in the first M&S Winter Olympics if that means anything.
Im so glad I'm not the only who suffered through Sonic Chronicles
>>343523120
It's a photo m8. It even has SEGA watermarks on the back of it like you would get with Kodak photographs after they've been developed.
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>>343524037
There's nothing wrong with Battle being canon, its Chronicles that has the problem.
It also ends on a cliffhanger which never gets resolved.Which is why I like the fan theory that the adventure Sonic has offscreen in Unleashed was the continuation of Chronicles.Shade must have fucked off and lived on Angel Island with Knuckles or some shit.
are the sonic boom games on 3ds any good? I know the wiiu one was a mess.
>>343527612
First game I ever pirated. That R4 card was worth every cent, because I would have been mad as hell paying full price for that absolute garbage.
It all worked out though, since I got to play Rush and Rush Adventure which are infinitely better Sonic games.
>>343527612
I played up until you go into the Twilight Cage but apparently I was underleveled and couldn't get past the mandatory fight since I just passed a point of no return.
>>343525140
Ignore the branching paths shit. You do all 22 levels in one playthrough. The final boss is dependent on which missions you do: do mostly good missions and you face Black Doom, do mostly evil missions and you face Sonic/Diablon, do a mix of the two or mostly neutral missions and you face Eggman. Chaos Emeralds are granted after A-ranking a level instead of in the storyline. If you get all 7, you can turn Super Shadow the normal way (50 rings + double jump). Get all 7 to unlock the final story instead of having to play 10 times.
That's on top of the normal "make the physics and level design not garbage" and "make the story and overall tone not grimderp edgy garbage."
>>343527612
Was there anything good about that game? Anything at all?
>>343527790
Shattered Crystal is mediocre.
Fire and Ice is reportedly better but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>343527790
Shattered Crystal is just very mediocre. If you're that curious, I'd pirate it if you can. If not, don't pay over 15 bucks.
>>343527969
Battle system was kind of interesting I guess? I vaguely remember liking the Chao system they had going. That's probably about it.
>>343528005
wouldn't be surprised if Fire & Ice was GotY due to being in the quality department for so long like S3&K
>>343527937
would double jump work in the 3d games since they focus so much on homing attack?
I can't help but think if SS was something concepted but scrapped in SA, they just haven't found a way for it to be a good feature.
>>343527969
The writing and some of the battle music was good. It's the out-of-battle music that everyone shits on.
>>343528241
Could just make it "press Y/triangle with 50 rings" since that was the Chaos Blast/Control button. Or maybe make Super Shadow activated if you have a full light and dark meter at the same time.
>>343527969
just the lore and potential battle system
also this cutie
>>343528460
The other 3 were not bad, but I hated this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qazO_fPZ6gM
>>343528943
The main problem with the music in general is it's obvious it wasn't optimized for the DS sound chip. I'd kill for masters of the battle music, including that one.
>>343527786
>Which is why I like the fan theory that the adventure Sonic has offscreen in Unleashed was the continuation of Chronicles.
Oh, I like that. Unleashed came out a couple of months after Chronicles, so it even kinda fits chronologically.
>>343522605
Nah, that's just the White House.
>>343527969
The lore connecting the war Knuckles' clan had that we learn about in SA1 with Emerl from Battle was really damn neat in all honesty.
>>343528943
The only decent songs are
>Opening Theme
>Battle 4
>Mini Boss
>Ix Mini Boss
>Final Boss
The other battle music is pretty meh, and even the ones I listed are pretty forgettable.I'd kill for a proper arrange of all of those though.
>>343529395
>tfw the final boss theme is pretty good, but you can beat him in a single turn.
>>343529640
>The song is around 3 minutes long before it loops
>Boss lasts less than a minute
>>343524020
I thought Shadow was still injured after his orbital fall at the end of SA2 at the beginning of Battle, which is why Rouge was taking care of him.
>>343522782
>"One girlfriend, please"
Gets me every fucking time, it sounds like he's making an order at Wendy's
Who the FUCK cares about Sonic canon
>>343530180
Autists.
Do you remember what website you're on?
Y'know what really pissed me off about Chronicles?
The in-battle sound effects. They sounded like something from a fucking Nickelodeon show and took me out of the action every time.
>>343530180
>muh mainline Mario lore and panneonkoek2012 memes r so serious gais!
>>343522421
After Heroes but before Shadow the game.
>>343531231
>Mario games are all really a stage show
>Every game is just a play going on
>This is why kart racers and other shit can happen and everyone is fine playing with enemies
We must stand united to defend our world against these invaders!
>>343534129
huh... thats nice
>>343524037
Sonic Advance 3 answers that.
>>343523473
>>343523534
I know, I just don't see why OP's asking if it's that obvious.
>>343522421
SONIC HHHHEEERRRROOOOS
Bleh, Shade was just a boring Julie-Su clone. Who cares.Thats the Knuckles/Rouge fan in me talking, though...
>>343529373
I hated that the echidna clan turned out to be responsible for damn near everything. It was obviously influenced by the comics where Knuckles' family is the most important thing in the universe and is somehow connected to everything in the world.
>>343538525
It's weird how this game had better dialogue choices than Fallout 4
>>343525227
>YourHugeThatMeansYouMustHaveHugeCircuits.jpg
>>343534129
>tfw very little fanart of Rouge'sfeet or nylons
>>343531231it is the only one just for me
>>343540751
Her feet are blobs.
