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>https://www.techpowerup.com/223833/official-statement-from-amd-on-the-pci-express-overcurrent-issue
>AMD sent us this statement in response to growing concern among our readers that the Radeon RX 480 graphics card violates PCI-Express power specification, by overdrawing power from its single 6-pin PCIe power connector and the PCI-Express slot. Combined, the total power budged of the card should be 150W, however, it was found to draw well over that power limit.
talk to me like I'm stupid, on a scale of 1 to 10 how much did AMD fuck up ?
>>343519173
10/10
>>343517480
Wow the shills on this board are crazy why do you waste your time free shilling?
>>343519173
6 or a 7.
The card was designed for budget use but it seems to need a PSU that's a bit above a budget build. Not a huge deal as I would hope everyone has at least a 500w unit but for those without, it's a potential issue.
>>343520168
>Card literally distreoyed a PCI-E slot
>6 or 7
Holy fuck anon, just buy a bit less tendies and save up the money for an NVIDIA card
>>343520157
>9999 480 threads all week
>NVIDIA BTFO ITS OVER REEEEEEEEEE
>its a pile of out of spec garbage
>SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL
kek
>>343517480
>post ends in 480
Pottery
>>343520347
>Card literally distreoyed a PCI-E slot
Stop talking.
>>343521075
>Truth hurts my fefes
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410
It's really terrifying to think about the bondage poverty puts on a nigga
>>343519173
may burn out your motherboard / 10
ROFLMAOOO
At least the 3.5 meme never killed any motherboards. I guess you really get what you pay for with AMD.
>>343517480
>were going to gimp your card through drivers
nothing new there
LGTSS
>You didn't buy a 480
>>343517480
Why the FUCK where people even thinking this GPU will be the best thing ever for that price? It was so obvious that this thing WILL have a flaw. There is no way a card at this price will be better than Nvidias Memecard. Raw numbers arent everything, hope some learned it the hard way now.
>>343520347
How the fuck do you misspell destroy?
>mfw they gib the card to ~380x performance
>>343524353
I think its silly to jump on any bandwagon right when something is released. Theres just to many potential problems these days. I'd rather wait a while and see. I guess if you're building a machine right at the time stuff is first being released. But I keep seeing threads about people so quick to jump that they'll take reference cards.
>>343517480
Stop shilling your shit website you fucking faggot
>>343524435
Don't worry anon, I ordered the helium
>>343524725
AMDlets on suicide watch
>>343524668
I've waited with upgrading for like 5 years. Been running a GTX660 for that time and have been forced to downscale pretty much any new game to minimum/medium to get reasonable FPS for almost a year now. Games like Ass Creed: Pirate edition already were a bit too much.
So since I now have a 40h/w job and low rent, I bought a 1070. Gonna be a few days before I have it, because of low stocks, but it's almost time for maxing out games again. Fuck yea
![1454176825666[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/apsQtls.png "1454176825666[1].png")
SHIIIIIIILLLLLS
>>343525038
Hope you have a good CPU with that 1070
>>343524595
That song was stuck in my head.You a nigger, Harry?
How the fuck do you even get a 480? Its sold out completely on newegg, bestbuy, and amazon.
Where do I order one bros? I'm sick of this shitty 7970
>>343519173
0/10
It's easy to fake a broken motherboard on the internet where no one can prove anything. Especially when the accuser refuses to rma any part so they can find the problem. AMD has no choice but to play it safe, that's all there is to it.
>>343525918
You could just short out the motherboard if you want the authentic 480 experience
>>343520168
Nobody would even care if it over drew from the pcie 6 pin. Too bad that's not the problem.
>>343525918
Keep checking /r/buildapcsales and hope you're lucky.
>>343525918
You don't and wait. That card is fine for now.
>>343526046
Why would someone lie on the internet, especially if he already bought the card.
>>343519173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFuYc2FHgjw
Not much.
>>343526249
Definitely, who lies on the internet bro
> telling AMD poorfags for years how shit their parts are
> show them detailed benchmarks and evidence of how garbage their drivers are
> WELL ANON IT WORKS FINE FOR ME
> 2016
> June
> RX 480 is launched
> colossal fuck up of extraordinary magnitude
> no one can deny the truth now
It's funny, but at the same time I'm morbidly depressed to know that Nvidia is headed towards a full blown monopoly over the GPU market. At least before when ATI was around, they provided some competition that was justifiable. Ever since that merger it's just been year over year getting worse. The company is completely fucked and in the end we all get fucked.
>Nvidia does it
>its fine
All hail the 960 strix, destroyer of motherboa- oh wait, that didn't happen despite the card spiking to much higher than what the 480 does.
>>343519173
9
Not only does it have this issue but it's also less powerful than a 980 and in some circumstances a 970 as well
It's the new 3.5 card
>>343525202
>implying cpu matters that much
Kek anon. Unless he's running an i3 it's fine. Stop spreading this meme.
>>343526353
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are lots of self-hating fags who bought an 480 and need to shit on it anyways.
>>343526650
Citations needed.
>>343526506
That's cuz spikes don't destroy anything unless they last long enough.
>>343526695
Definitely bro that's a definite happening right now bro definitely
5 rupees have been added to your account.
>>343526046
If it's fake, why is AMD addressing the concern and working on a fix?
>>343526721
Given the scale of that graph those spikes are lasting longer than mere milliseconds.
>>343526972
DELETE THIS
>>343526046
>AMD going to try and limit the consumption to 150W with a driver
>Totally fake guys
>>343526308
>amd fanboys that literally worship this faggot who shills amd this hard
lol
>>343526801
AMDrones are desperate right know. Mobos are burning left and right, but they're still denial. You people are funny.
>>343527060
Apparently they don't last long enough to bring the average far enough. On 480 they do. 80w is a power spike. A continuous one.
>>343526972
amd is already testing a driver 'fix'. r/amd is entirely full of posts about it. take it all for what you will but there def seems to be something up with the cards. we'll know more after they release the fix and how they handle already destroyed cards/mobos.
>>343519173
10/10 for not going with a 8 pin connector and avoid the issue
3/10 for what is actually happening, cheapo mobos might get fucked(30-40$), but i dont think its gonna be an issue for anyone with 60+$ mobos
>>343527309
>fried mobo's because of the GPU!
>posts a picture of the 12v rail
>>343527362
what if people just reduced the standard voltage from 1.050v to .950v?
This would reduce the wattage enough to not be a problem
>>343527309
bait?
wheres the source for 480 fried mobos?
>>343526686
lel the "cpu doesn't matter" meme died out over 6 years ago.
>Unless he's running an i3 it's fine.
You even contradict yourself.
>>343527417
>>343527525
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg15438599#msg15438599
Stay in denial, lmao.
>AMD
>>343517480
>there is a problem with the card
>AMD statement: We will fix it with the next driver update, sorry for that
Doesn't matter if the rx480 is trash or not, but I don't see the problem here. The fucked up and now they defuck it.
>>343527515
if i had a 480 right now thats what i would do, at least just to be safe.
>>343527515
>implying the card runs at 1.050v
Post yfw you didn't fall for the AMD meme
>too much power draw from motherboard
>RX480 that can set your motherboard PCI-E lanes on fire. Nvidia did it first with the REAL 480
>performance of a 970, a 2 year old card.
>AMD in general
AMD = playing catch up all the time. Get with the times you poorfags.
You can suck my dickor cock
>>343526686
>unless he's running an i3
Wrong. CPU doesn't matter that much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKRD1pgR3jk
>>343527750
Why don't you just reduce the voltage? 1.2v is really high
>>343527554
I'm not contradicting myself, since I never stated it doesn't matter at ALL, I said it doesn't matter that much.
Unless he's running REALLY outdated hardware (5 years isn't that much) like an i3, then he's fine.
>>343527853
my old nehalem bottlenecks r9 380 in GTA V
>>343527581
>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg15438599#msg15438599
>I was mining with 3 of these fucking things in crossfire
>wonders why his garbage PSU burned his motherboard
>>343527312
They don't raise the average because equally the 960 hits really low draw from the slot. A constant load is better on hardware than sudden extremes.
>>343526308
That video is the stupidest shit I've heard in a long time.
>>343527417
Where do you think the GPU gets its power?
>>343526308
I've heard the 4GB and 8GB versions are the exact same cards, just locked by BIOS.
Is it true, AMDcucks?
>>343528276
Unlikely given how GDDR5 modules work.
>>343528059
Even better, through risers on a cheapshit mobo
>>343528276
No. It'd be a waste of money to do that.
I guess the rumor comes from the fact that AMD didn't send any 4 GB cards to reviewers, but a BIOS to lock 4 GB from the 8 GB cards to emulate it.
>>343528276
>you can download more ram now
What a time to be alive.
>>343528363
Plus it doesn't account for the cpu possibly running out of spec - cpus are 12v fed these days.
nvidiafags win again
Want good performance for the price? Use your CPU's integrated graphics.
>>343519173
Worse than the 3.5 fiasco. At least the 970 wouldn't fry your mobo and is still a great card if you stuck to a 1080p display.
>>343527987
>my 8 year old processor bottlenecks a year old game.
No fucking wonder you idiot everything before sandy bridge was shit.
>>343528185
75w from the PCIe via the PCIe connector on the motherboard separate of the 12v rail and another 75w from the 6-pin connector
For all you know that guy's old ass motherboard has a shit VRM
>>343527774
>>343528435
It might not be a waste of money if it's for some reason less efficient and therefore costly to produce 4gb cards in the same factories. But this probably isn't the case
>>343528481
CPU is fed by the 8 pin, not by the 24 pin main.
>>343528606
Where do you think the PCIe gets its power from?
>>343528548
Nothing is worse than the 3.5 fiasco, nvidiafriend
>>343527774
I'd be more concerned that the 970 struggles to outperform what is essentially a gpu from 2013.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtry-A-t7Qk
>>343527309
>>343527309
>>343527309
>>343527309
OMG LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LLLL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjAlrGzHAkI
>>343528787
>Where do you think the PCIe gets its power from?
the powersupply
From the way it looks, it was the PSU feeding through the motherboard and the motherboard burned most likely because he has an old ass motherboard that has a shit VRM because he cheaped on the motherboard that seriously was NEVER intended to use 3 fucking 480's
This is an extreme case where a butthurt buttcoin miner burns out his motherboard probably in the same way he's burned out tons of GPU's But he won't tell you about all the GPU's he's gone through
>>343517480
>shitty budget card now gets limited to 60% of its performance
You're literally better off buying a 10 years old geforce 8800 from ebay at this point.
>>343521978
Niggers in poverty shouldn't be even spending money on gaming computers. What the fuck you deserve to starve at that point.
>>343529026
>the motherboard that seriously was NEVER intended to use 3 fucking 480's
>motherboard with THREE video card slots
>not high end
Man look at all those budget multi card setups.
Wow. This is a really bad case of AMD defense force.I mean, jesus. What would AMD have to do to get you guys to come to terms with them fucking up? I mean at this point, I feel they could rape and murder your parents and you would everything you could to justify it as not a big deal.
>>343529320
Its not, many times these buttcoin miners use daughter boards to separate their PCIe-16x slots into two PCIe-8x slots then run their GPU's through that. Because mobo makers don't just make 8 slot motherboards
Its more likely his motherboard has 2 fucking PCIE slots and he added 3 GPU's to it.
>>343529430
Raping and murdering your parents is only a small spike that lasts like an hour or two, they are perfectly fine otherwise
>>343529320
>it came with 3 slots
>that means its high end
ASUS, Intel and Biostar made tons of those 3 PCIe slot motherboards for sub 125 dollars and they were garbage
>>343528648
What game is this image from
>>343526046
yeah sure , of course this article is fake since obviously no one saw through this master scheme, god damn it they did it again
>>343528807
Except this objectively is.
>>343529673
God Hand
>>343529673
>this user has never played God hand.
>>343528692
It'd be extremely doubtful. Memory modules are extremely easy to just not add.
It's a bit different from unlocking a 6950 into a 6970 or something, because in that case, all the GPUs are 6970s in the first place, and only then are they modified to be 6950s. First this was done on a software level, but because of all the unlocking shit, they've moved onto just lasercutting the extra shit. In the case of memory modules, there's no real point in adding double the modules to the PCB.
But this can be easily confirmed by just looking at the PCB of the 4 GB model. I'm sure there's a picture somewhere.
>>343529026
>the powersupply
Good job, and it comes through the 24 pin connector, so there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting a picture of that. What else would you post a picture of, if not the point of failure? Also, the fried pins are #10 and #11, so the ones providing 12V, so we can be sure that the GPUs were the cause.
Also, this case doesn't really have anything to do with the VRM because we're at the input. If the point of failure was at the VRM, then you could blame the VRM. If the point of failure was after the VRM, then you could possibly blame the VRM.
>>343529957
>Good job, and it comes through the 24 pin connector, so there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting a picture of that. What else would you post a picture of, if not the point of failure? Also, the fried pins are #10 and #11, so the ones providing 12V, so we can be sure that the GPUs were the cause.
If his burn is at the 1st and 3rd pin and the GPU's 5 pin wattage happens at the latter pins, how is it the GPU's power draw if the first and 3rd pins are burned when the GPU has nothing to do with the voltage draw on those pins?
>>343527309
Most PC has higher than normal PSU, how is this a problem?
>>343517480
LOL
>>343530296
>my sound went out because of my GPU's
>people arguing over a single instance of this
theres tons of forum posts and tests. the card itself is exceeding the pci-e spec. its a lot bigger of a problem than 1 burnt mobo.
>>343530328
His motherboard is OLD as FUCK, he literally has a PATA connector its so fucking old
>>343517480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhjC_8ai7QA&feature=youtu.be&t=96
AYY
>>343520168
How many watts is above budget build, 700W?
i have a low budget pc (i3 6100 processor ) but i have a 700w psu, i shouldn't be having any problems with 480 right?
>>343528606
It was an ASUS P7P55-LX. I've got the same board and had overclocked crossfire R9 290's running on it. It's a good board. The 480 draws too much through the PCI-E rail.
>>343530549
It's not related to your PSU, but to your mobo.
>>343521978
>tendies
>fefes
How does it feel to have incurable autism?
>>343530445
he said he previously used 3 280x on it which consume about 1.5x more power each with no issues
>>343529026
That mobo only has 2 PCI-E slots.
>>343530549
Psst, wattage doesn't mean shit if its a low quality unit.
Go look up Jonnyguru's "death of a gutless wonder" articles on how some psus claim to be high wattage but can never actually provide it.
In fact read jonnyguru in general to educate yourself on how psus work.
>>343530714
>>343530691
>>343530559
So I was right, he only has 2 slots and he's running 3 cards in it doing his buttcoin mining.
>previously used 3 280x's that draw more power
so then whats the problem here if these cards draw less power
>>343530121
The burnt pins are #10 and #11. #12 doesn't look burnt to me. These two supply +12V. The GPU uses +12V and +3.3V to a lesser extent.
>>343530445
>it's okay to destroy the mobo because it's old
>>343530691
>he said he previously used 3 280x
Then he's frauding. That mobo is a ASUS P7P55-LX, it only has 2 PCI-E slots.
>>343530851
>if I use an old ass motherboard that's seen its time through how much hardcore buttcoin mining I've done omg why did it finally die?
Like wondering why your old ricer 1999 honda accord finally stopped wanting to run after running it so hard at every red light
>>343517480
they will release a bios with lower volt.
they undervolt like crazy.
or maybe they can fix so that it takes more power from the 6pin?
Is the number 480 a cursed number in the tech world?
First the GTX480, now the RX480. have there been any other cases of the number 480 being bad? Conspiracy theorists and occult believers, we need you. Someone get /x/ on this.
>>343531147
>or maybe they can fix so that it takes more power from the 6pin?
Unlikely, its overdrawing from the motherboard and the 6 pin.
Is 1.2v the stock voltage of GPU's? hell none of mine ever got above 1.1 or I never set it above 1.1
1.2v seems unusually high. It should run fine when you reduce it to 1.1v
>>343526417
>The company is completely fucked and in the end we all get fucked.
This, AMD is not the competition Nvidia needs, and to make matters worse the only reason why they are even around are consoles, and are the only ones that do not get fucked by DX12 / Vulcan, but that does not even matter because Nvidia, despite being unfit for these environments, still left AMD in the dust.
The moment Nvidia figures out Asynchronous Computing in their hardware; the difference between AMD and Nvidia will spike dramatically. However, it is not like there is an actual reason because as long AMD performs like shit Nvidia could cut out features to sell them later for next generations.
how do you fix a card that at stock, overdraws by a significant amount, with a driver update? the card was designed like it was for a reason and taking away power will gimp it?
>>343531370
>how do you fix a card that at stock, overdraws by a significant amount, with a driver update? the card was designed like it was for a reason and taking away power will gimp it?
undervolt.
Downing the voltage which reduces the wattage draw
>>343530620
i have a h110m pro-vh motherboard
>>343530781
i bought a 700w evga 80 plus bronce, i was told you always have to spend a few extra bucks on a decent psu because these shitty chinese psus fry your motherboard
>>343519173
On the upper register of things. This card was more or less a silver bullet back on top.
>>343531298
i think stock is 1.15v
mine runs at 1.0188v with no crashes.
if they can make more power go tru the 6 pin its np
each pin can stand 9A (3x9A) u can pull like 250w from a 6 pin np
>>343531502
yea but a 6pin is only rated for 150w
>>343531429
if it were that easy, how the fuck did the mess up so bad in the first place? they literally didnt even test their cards and notice its 40-50% out of spec?
>>343531001
The problem is that these cards are aimed at people who can't afford to be constantly upgrading their hardware, so it's a given that people will still be using older hardware.
>>343531147
>or maybe they can fix so that it takes more power from the 6pin?
Dunno if it's possible with a simple BIOS update, since it might be dependent on the way the card is physically wired. And even then, it would be going above the ATX spec. Though as long as your PSU is worth anything, going over the ATX spec won't cause any harm, hell, people use 6pin to 2x6pin connectors to connect 2x6pin cards to 6pin PSUs and nothing wrong happens most of the time, since the 6pin connector can withstand much more than 75W.
>>343531586
I'm sure they noticed but never thought would be a problem
>>343531553
its rated for 75w, to make it totally retard safe
just check your psu, mine for example has a single rail for all 12v
>>343531147
Someone on leddit found that the VRAM voltage was affecting the powerdraw and some other shit
>>343531561
Undoubtedly undervolting it will provide instability for some unlucky RX480 owners. I'm sure you'll hear more about that when AMD attempts to fix the current issue.
>>343528548
What fiasco was the 3.5 fiasco?
>>343531751
>Undoubtedly undervolting it will provide instability for some unlucky RX480 owners
unlikely, undervolting should make it more stable
1.15v base is kind of high, 1.05v is enough reduction to get it under spec
So is the 1060 a decent card for a poor fag?
>>343531467
>i bought a 700w evga 80 plus bronce, i was told you always have to spend a few extra bucks on a decent psu because these shitty chinese psus fry your motherboard
You were given solid advice. Too many people put psus really low on their list when budgeting out a build when in reality a psu should be a fairly high priority.
You don't need a mega wattage unit, just a quality one for the wattage you need.
>>343531553
True, ATX spec rates a 6pin connector for only 75W, but people connect 6+8pin cards to single 6pin PSUs all the time using cheap connectors.
What the fuck are AMD doing?
is everyone at the company insanely incompetent?
I don't get it
I want AMD to succeed but they keep fucking up.
>>343531826
google it you gigantic fucking faggot
>>343519173
0/10.
Most Nvidia cards do the same. But somehow it starts being an issue only when amd does it.
There is literally no chance of frying a motherboard. Its a common issue found in most cards.
>>343531826
Nvidia advertised the GTX970 as a 4gb GPU but really the majority of the bandwidth was allocated for just 3.5gb making the latter .5gb of memory virtually unusable because it was so stupidly slow.
This meant that certain games or resolutions that ate tons of VRAM ever went above like 3.2gb or 90% of the Vram usage would stutter the games a lot
>NVIDIA is gimping there old cards
>NVIDIA is evil
why its always amdrones that spreading there bullshit? Its good think there are benchmarks so i can just test my system and comfirm that most of these claims are baseless
>>343531751
just seems crazy, or lazy, that you wouldn't set the card to around the minimum it requires to run at full speed. why on earth would you make it draw more at stock if it didnt need to?
>>343531912
>Most Nvidia cards do the same
No they fucking don't. The only one was a certain overclocked version that ASUS did with their Strix 960. No other 960's ever did this
>this is a common issue
no its not
>>343531992
nvidia are dicks though
>>343531992
have not decided if i shall send my card back.
have 2 weeks to decide
but that 88.9% ASIC..
>>343531693
>AMD strikes again
They really need to hire some better engineers, or at least people with a little bit of foresight.
>>343531912
No widely released Nvidia card goes over the PCI-E spec wattage ON AVERAGE. Sure, Asus fucked up with their Strix cards that have spikes going over 75W from the PCI-E slot, but ON AVERAGE the cards pull less than 75W. The RX480 pulls almost 90W from the slot ON AVERAGE.
Have I mentioned the words ON AVERAGE yet?
>>343531992
>>NVIDIA is gimping there old cards
Is there any actual evidence of this? at all? I hear it pushed it around tons but there never was any definitive evidence of it happening ever.
>>343531867
1.15v is higher than what my custom cooled 290x runs at when boincing.
wait why is a 150W card using a only a 6pin connector?
>>343531867
For the unlucky few who own RX480s with bad voltage to frequency characteristics it's extremely likely, actually.
>>343532031
It needs to, just not for all GPUs. It has nothing to do with laziness.
>>343532215
cuz only having 1 6pin makes it look like its energy effective
>>343531992
/v/ and /g/ tell us AMD has no drivers, so if thats true how do we explain this?
>>343532184
then why not just undervolt and solve the issue!
>>343532215
because you can get 75w from the PCIe slot and 75w from the 6-pin for a 150w card but AMD's 480 is going over that by tons.
>>343532163
none
>>343532278
but nobody actually cares about that
>>343528597
My 3.1ghz i5 3450 bottlenecks my 970 in everything.
>>343532346
i know rite
>>343532267
>For the unlucky few who own RX480s with bad voltage to frequency characteristics it's extremely likely, actually.
why? because of brownout? you undervolt and underclock the core
>>343532291
780ti have 3gb and struggles at high vram usage like 1440p
Getting really tired of the NVIDIA shills pushing this meme.
There is no proven case of anyone having anything damaged by the 480s.
I've never seen a more desperate attempt to stay on top from any company than this. NVIDIAs days are fucking numbered
>>343528109
That's literally impossible because high side power transistors operate in pulse mode. I know you're ignoring the fact that RX480 wobbles the current draw up and down too. Because that's how power transistors work.
On off on off on off.
>>343532690
So how come its getting its shit kicked in at 1080p as well? When it released the 780ti was flatout faster than a 290x across the board.
>>343532779
>.05 dollars has been deposited into your account
>make card that appeals to poorfags who haven't built new computers in years
>destroy their computers so they need to get new ones
>put all your AyyyMD poorfag products on sale
>????
>Profit
>>343532779
AMD is releasing a press release on it. And they are working on new drivers. And it has been independently tested by various people.
This vid was good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjAlrGzHAkI
Most people aren't here to shill. Threads like this are best used as a warning - underclock your card for now to be safe until AMD comes up with something.
You're paranoid mang.
>>343532779
how can someone be this delusional?
>>343532848
>.5 GB has been removed from your GPU
>>343532779
>50 degrees have been added to your temps
>>343517480
How the fuck they didn't test the card before releasing it? They thought that nobody will noticed it? How can you be so incompetent?
>>343531001
If my 1999 honda accord had its engine blow up because of bad design, I would be pissed.
>>343517480
The only one good card in a long time and they fuck it up.
>>343532346
oems care about that, since they use cheap chinese shit psu's, and thats how amd tried to make some extra money, since you see, most of the time oems would use nvidia cards 960/950/750ti, since amd had nothing to offer with 1 6-pin. Thats why you see shitty oem builds with i7 and 750ti for 1000$. Nvidia are masters of vga cards bussines thats why they own the market.
>>343533115
Neither nvidia nor amd care about making good. They care about making money.
>>343532963
>Make card with a sizable price markup that gets all of the corporate advertisement shilling
>brick it with drivers 3 years later
>don't put your products on sale
>????
>Profit
except this one actually happened
>>343531905
I did, couldn't find it. Why I asked. "3.5 AMD" isn't exactly specific.
>>343532843
was it really or you are just meming?
Also it 3y later now, people who can buy card for 500$ have already upgraded. So nobody cares.
>>343531467
>>343531871
PSU shouldn't be high, it should be #1 priority. It feeds and can fry every single component in your rig. It is of absolutely paramount importance. I had a PSU take a direct hit from a lightning bolt about a decade ago, and because I bought quality, it held the line and died so that the rest of the rig would live. Everything I have from that build still works fine to this day.
>>343533225
Yeah and now seems they are not going to be making much money either.
>>343533306
>worse than the 3.5 fiasco
>you google 3.5 amd
>instead of 3.5 fiasco
common sense, man.
I've already got a 1080 ordered, should get it next week. Now that I've already got a decent PC, I'd never even think of getting a cheap individual upgrade like a 480.
>>343533393
Well, they're AMD. They're used to it.
>>343533393
>sold out on most stocks day 1
>still the only GPU brand for consoles
I wish
AMD are the biggest scammers in the industry, they lie about everything and underdeliver all the time. They've shown time and time again they dont give a shit about their customers the gamers unlike Nvidia.
Why do people even defend them when nvidia treats their customers so much better?
>>343534054
whilist I understand this is like some kind of baitswitch or just some clever humor, there are people that actually think companies give a shit about most people.
So much denial in one thread.
Just admit they've fucked up, laugh with the rest and move on. It's not like you owe AMD anything.
>>343531273
according to numerology 480 is 3. 3 like 3 6's, the mark of the beast.
>>343534054
>nvidia fanboy's opinion
>970 fail
>overpriced gpus all the time
>releases 1080
>4 months later 1080ti (unlocked some shit, same chip)
>4 months later 1080 TITAN BLACK ED (unlocked more shit lol)
called it, and you are retarded
should i get a 970
i cant afford more than $350 for a card
>>343534296
>overpriced
>the most powerful cards on the market
>happen to have the highest prices
They are only "overpriced" to people that are poor, and that is purely a budget thing. Its like calling a luxury car overpriced because its too expensive for you, even though its better in 100 ways than a budget car.
>>343534465
If you have that much money wait for a 1060 in a couple weeks dumbass.
>>343525038
You went 5 years, what's a month more for non reference?
>>343534465
my meme70 was $330 nearly 2 years ago, for $350 you should be able to do better.
>>343534547
its the same way intel does
they have tech to release much better cpus at lower price, but since peoples buy the crippled ones they sell for much $$$, why bother?
always cheer for the underdog, it makes market good
>>343533329
Go look up 780ti launch reviews - it beat the 290x in basically every review.
>So nobody cares.
It sets a trend given how baby maxwell has been murdered as well by tahiti. A 770 for example is meant to compete against a 280x - these days its closer to the 270x and the 280x itself fights a 780.
Pick your poison - either Nvidia gimps or AMD extracts more and more performance out of their cards.
Who
>waiting for 3rd party 480 cards to fix the overdraw issues
>>343534738
No, it makes you the bitch of the underdog.
>>343534653
Why is 1070 out before 1060
I dont know much about cards
I'm still running on a 650ti from when I first built my pc
>>343517480
>buying cards on release
It's like you want to get screwed. I remember all the nvidiots buying a 970.
>>343534807
The 290x is a freak of nature. It has a much better longevity than almost any other card ever fucking made.
>>343534830
rite
>current cpu intel
>last gpu nvidia
>>343534813
I still need to get my money back for a 380 that keeps crashing, and I'm definitely not going back to AMD.
>>343534840
Nvidia usually does their flagship first the 1080 then releases lesser variants the lower they go
>>343534886
the 970 was out for more than 18 hours before the 3.5 was discovered.
>>343519173
10.
Which is a shame since it was shaping up to be a great card. At least the 580 will have solved the issue without gimping the card and will deliver better performance.
Better luck next time?
>>343534738
I'll cheer for the underdog when they start releasing products that aren't worse than the big bad monopoly with business practices to rival them.
>>343534915
Only because it has replaced the 7970 - that card is 4 years old and still rocks 1080p.
>>343534915
That's not certainly limited to the 290x, the 7970 / 280x and the 7870 / 270x are in the same boat.
>>343532163
Can you see the gimping?
What would be a good card for me to change to?
>>343526417
>she wants to pay 700dollarydoos on the 1060
Arent you just a dumb cunt, its like you dont want competition so everyone has to pay more. I didnt expect you to understand economics, considering puberty is still beyond your reach. Dont worry, your tits will grow and your vaj will bleed when the time comes.
>>343519173
3/10, RX480 reviews are out there already and nobody is going to rerun everything after the driver will downgrade card's performance.
They got bit of a bad press and some mobos were fried, but well tough shit.
>>343535190
>7970
love that card
replaced it with this 480 tho, it lagged in overwatch 1440p
its only a short time upgrade untill zen/vega gets released
>itt shit trolls attempt to troll other shit trolls
Keke kill youreselves
>>343535350
What PSU do you have?
>>343534917
Enjoy paying the current 40% markup on the msrp price for every nvidia card. Thanks for being part of the problem
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY JUST USE THE 8 PIN POWER INSTEAD OF THE 6 PIN
>>343534915
agree. my 280x still holds up quiet well
>>343535840
No matter how many pins it has, it will still overdraw from the rail.
>>343517480
DOWNCLOCKED
>>343534915
Just like the 9800GTX+. Man, I wish more cards were so futureproof.
>>343535346
No, where is it?
Why are AMD cards so power hungry?
>>343535685
Most of us who spend $800~1000 on a new comp aren't interested in "supporting the little guy", "sticking it to the man." Why in the fuck would I gimp my build to make a statement?
I completely avoided AMD with my current build not because I hate them, but because their offerings were absolute garbage compared to Intel/Nvidia for my needs. I like emulation - AMD processors blow ass compared to Intel. My last video card was an AMD - I had tons of driver issues that left me using old drivers for over 6 months.
If AMD wants more business, they are going to have to actually try. Remember the Athlon XP days when they were making faster processors for lower prices that did more work per clock cycle at lower speeds? Those days are long gone and so is my love for them. Once they can compete, they'll get my money.
It's the year of the AMD desktop every year.
Just like how every year is the year of the Linux Gaming PC.
>>343536264
amd hater detected
I've got a shitty ass 7750 that I really have to replace, but I live in a poorfag country so I was really looking forward to the 480. Should I still get one, or should I get something else, and in that case, what should I get?
>>343532158
Neither does the RX480 family.
>>343536697
Wait for aftermarket 480 and 1060 to come out.
>>343536854
How long are we talking about?
>>343536579
Reminder that being and AMD lover that wants to "stick it to the man" means you are socially abhorrent and might as well kill yourself for not being normal.
>>343536697
480 looks good. the nvidia 1060 might be good but its "benchmarks" are 100% bullshit magic numbers with no hard data. so its entirely undisclosed so far.
naturally retards are doing the same thing they did with the rx480 and saying the 1060 will be a god card that will personally get you laid and all other wonderful things.
As far as the housefire motherboard melting will rape your dog posts, no one has actually proven this has happened, and it's only happened to like 6 people out of the 10,000+ rx480 owners
If only my 770 wasn't 2gb, I fucking love my card.
Hopefully aftermarket 480s are good, or maybe the 1060 isn't TOO expensive.
>>343536970
1060paperlaunch is mid-July
you'll see real cards in august-september
>>343524326
>LGTSS
What did it mean by this?
>>343537080
Paper launch is on the 7th. Availability starts a week later.
Please stop spreading false information.
>>343526506
That was debunked days ago.
With our ability to measure voltage and current, we return back to Metro: Last Light at 4K to find that amperage draw over the motherboard's +12V line stays right at 2.5A. That is a drastic difference compared to the RX 480 hitting more than 7A over the same line, especially considering the 5.5A limit from the PCI Express specification.
480 has the ability to fry your mobo power and pci-e slot.
>>343536970
Both of those will probably happen in the next 2-3 weeks.
>>343537353
Lesbians, gays and transsexuals should suffocate
>mfw AMD 'fixes' it by gimping the performance to 960 level
>>343535840
That's what im wondering too.
There's NO way shit like this passed through testing. IF this was frying PCI-E Slots, it must've shown up there before release.
