Zero Time Dilemma: "Gamespot Reviewers are Dumb as Shit" Edition
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/zero-escape-zero-time-dilemma/1900-6416462/
>>343472871
No one cares about Gamespot since she left.
>>343472871
How's about you post a pastebin so I don't have to click on it?
>>343472871
>any game I like deserves a 9 or a 10
Look man, even if he did it for the wrong reasons, ZTD is a 6. It's okay that we all enjoyed it and love the series, but ZTD is a 6.
>>343475026
>any game I like deserves a 9 or a 10
Point to where I said that.
>>343474672
Will an archive.is do?
https://archive.is/COrxY
>>343473230
>she
>>343474672
http://archive.is/COrxY
>>343475149
>>343475186
archivemind
>Junpei: Hey akane you've been getting fat from eating all those cakes.
>Akane: How 'bout I cut off your arm and shove your ass in a vent?
Well that escalated quickly.
Junpei bringin' the bantz
Did I screw up in the control room? I have cards 2, 3 and 4 but not card 1
Only idiots and newfags care about gaming journalist reviews. To everyone else, gaming journalists has been dead for years now.
>>343475534
>>Akane: How 'bout I cut off your arm and shove your ass in a vent?
Kanny? OUR Kanny?
damn son
Reminder VLR ending was the best ending in ZTD and that one should be the true one.
what did he mean by this?
>MY PLOT TWISTS ARE....
>COMPLEX
>>343473230
I want to suck this person's feminine Penis.
>>343477912
hopefully ZTD is a clusterfuck because he's a hack and not because he had something coherent but butchered it so people who didn't play 999 and VLR could understand it
My shitposts are complex...
>>343475534
this is in response to her going through the vent right?
>>343472871
I really wish the mods would start cracking down on people who post direct links
I swear to GOD they refer to Sean as Q at some point, they absolutely must, and in the decontamination room the whole room is in shot or is panned, am I to assume Q was just circling around the camera or fell down?
get fucked
>FREE THE SOUL DESTROYED BY A 20 YEAR OLD BOY AND DISCHARGED 50 YEAR OLD DETECTIVE
>SOMEONE FROM FREE THE SOUL HAS MORE INFLUENCE THAN BROTHER
>THE LEADER OF FREE THE SOUL, WHO CAN READ MINDS, DOESN'T KNOW WHO IT IS
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
In the middle of playing this, and a for this first time multiple fragments became available for each team. I dont know which one happensdirectly after all the teams vote for the first time.
Does it the order I pick them in matter at all? Am I supposed to skip around the timelines?
>>343478245
that image on the bottom left is straight bustin me up senpai
>Let me tell you a story
>A long time ago, a game came out
>No one was quite sure what it was about
>But the end was a cliffhanger
>A cliffhanger whose resolution, people would wait 4 years to witness.
>Many died during that time.
>Many didn't see it.
>Those, would be the lucky ones.
>Because once it came out.
>It boiled down to...
>Alien technology.
>Life is truly unfair, don't you think?
So let me get this straight.The snail caused Eric's Mom to walk a different path which caused her to be Mira's first kill. Which led to Eric's dad going crazy and killing Chris. Also causing Akane's father to be falsely arrested followed by her mothers suicide. Sean is the boy at the end obviously.but the one thing I don't know isHow the taxi driver and surgeon connected?
>>343478279
>FREE THE SOUL DESTROYED BY A 20 YEAR OLD BOY AND DISCHARGED 50 YEAR OLD DETECTIVE
they just destroyed one of their bases
I hate reading games /v/.
In 5 words or less tell me why I should play this 6/10 game.
>>343478245
Just finished the game, and holy shit, you guys were not joking about the complex thing. It's a fucking ZERO ESCAPE game, there's always a big info dump at the end, why is this the only time someone doesn't want to spill their guts about their plan?
Aoi was never exactly easy to get along with, but everything I've seen in ZTD just reinforces that Akane's callousness and hypocritical tendencies make her an absolute nightmare to deal with. Kurashiki family life must be insane.
This is your decision game, /v/ Team.
If you open this spoiler box, you will be released, but 6 billion will die.
>>343478507
COMPLEX OLD MAN AYY LMAO
JUST REMEMBER TO SMILE /v/ NO MATTER WHAT!
>>343478498
>they just destroyed one of their bases
headquarters
>>343478408
Akane's father called the cab but because he was arrested it picked up the doctor instead. They got into an accident on the way to the hospital thus also causing the original Sean to die.
>Delta is 124 years old but is as fit as a very fit 70 year old, with no explanation
>No information is ever given about how Delta even knows the world will be destroyed if he doesn't release radical-6
>Blick Winkle / ? thread completely abandoned
MY MIND IS TELLIN' NO
BUT MY FETISH
MY FETISH'S TELLIN' ME YEES
>>343478408
taxi driver was going to pick up akane's dad
but since he was arrested, the taxi picked up the surgeon instead
>>343478575
that scene was fuckingcute
>>343478551
>I came to save the world!
Junpei dies
>FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU I'LL MURDER EVERYONE AND I'LL LEAVE PHI AND SIGMA TO DIE TOO FUCK FUCK FUCK DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH JUMPY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>343478650
He's 4chan the character
>>343478631
oh fuck
>>343478579
same shit
do you think every member and all their assets were in that headquarters when it was destroyed
What's with all of the dutch angles in the game?
>>343473230
That's a dude.is that the tranny Jim Sterling does a podcast with?
Was there ever any confirmation on who is the strongest esper out of all of them?
>>343478631
Please share later.
>mom asks why I'm playing "Saw games"
>>343477912
I'd like to know what happened to Uchi's vision of Zero Escape between VLR and ZTD.
Did the cinematic style shift it?
Did "catering" to the American demographic give him the wrong idea of what he needed to create?
Did time change it?
>Junpei and Seven went on fun and zany 90's buddycop adventures
I actually wish ZE3 had been about that instead. At least it wouldn't have had ALIENS and COMPLEX
>>343478625
He can see all realities he is alive in using the quantum computer. Considering he is alive during VLR he likely saw the end of the world in alternate timelines as well.
>>343478254
No, it was when he proposed.
>>343478908
Holy shit, she looks awful. She was right. White is better.
>>343478908
I would.
What the fuck was Uchikoshi smoking.
When he wrote alien space/time tech into the game?
>hahaha I played you like a fiddle nobody was supposed to die anyways I was helping you the entire time u mad?
>>343478830
A timeline exists where this motherfucker is.
>>343479115
>but why
>MY MOTIVES................
>>343479091
it's for the sequel
why do you think the next zero killed 8 billion people
So no matter what happens in any of the ZTD timelines, Zeroends up saving people? Either 2 billion or all 8? How is he a villain then?
>>343478830
I thought it was going to be Brother, but honestly it really isn't. Probably Carlos.
>>343479091
Man who gives a shit about the aliens? Like is this so fucking out there it ruins the game for you?
>>343479218
Complex plot developments.
Also, he is a fucking retard. There are much better ways to catch the terrorist
>>343479218Everyone dies in the don't jump timeline an presumably there is nobody to stop the fanatic from starting a nuclear war.
>>343479091
>sending information to the past/future in 999 and VLR
>reasonable
>clones existing in VLR
>reasonable
>sending information to the past/future to make a clone in ZTD
>RIDICULOUS
>>343479151
>there's a timeline where this man has raped Clover, Akane, and Lotus
WHERE THE FUCK WAS KYLE? YOU FUCKING HACK!
>>343479218
Only 1 of the endings is Radical-6, every other ending is extinction, which is actually pretty stupid.
>phi has red eyebrows suddenly
>goes from white hair to grey
Just started the game and won the coin flip... what just happeend? It can't be this easy right?
>>343478381
separate version just for you
>>343478625
>Blick Winkle / ? thread completely abandoned
I don't think they were planning to use that as all. Wasn't it added on the localized version for NA / EU? Making it's canon status questionable?
>>343478631
>DO IT FOR HER
>>343478551
the way she was a kill joy when c team won the dice game really makes you question what junpei sees in her
>>343479390
Who did Akane do all that exposition at the end of VLR with if not the Blick Winkle?
>>343479292
Yes actually.
Well, VLR being for nothing, Akane, Sigma and Phi being a trio of useless dumbasses, Carlos creating the timeline where R6 doesn't spread in 5 minutes, Brother being good all along, Free the Soul not being the evil endgame, etc.
All of those ruined the game for me. AYY LMAOS was just the most pathetic development
>>343472871
inb4 comment deleted and review edited with no acknowledgement of a mistake
or did it already happen?
>>343479314
I just wish they hadn't said "aliens made it lol"
why are delta's eyes purple?
>>343479569
Aliens. No idea, literally never explained.
Well, this game did answer the "Did Akane love Junpei or was it all an act in 999" question once and for all.
She loves him so much she completely forgets about saving the world every time he dies, and ust murders the fuck out of whoever killed him.
>>343479510
Obviously a lie.
>>343479569MIND HACK
>the fucking AB game
I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO CHOOSE BETRAY, MOTHERFUCKER.
>>343478279
I'm still looking for the bar scene where Eric referred to Sean as Q, but in the meantime I found this, in the don't inject radical-6 node. They start talking to Q near the end of it but in this scene the camera had panned all around the bar and Q is nowhere to be seen. Complete and utter bullshit.
I-I liked ZTD more than VLR
>>343478830
Isn't it Akane? She can SHIFT literally whenever she wants
>>343479672
But it definitely existed in 1908
>>343478275
Why? Because it triggers your gamergate mentality?
>>343478846
At this point I'm not even sure whether or not Uchi should be criticized for all the bullshit.
...I mean, what can he do? No Q & A will ever be good enough to fix ZTD and this IS the end of Zero Escape, there's no way to simply rescind it
So, is Akane's love what powers Junpei's SHIFT ability?
>>343479462
Carlos creates a future where Radical-6 doesn't spread by winning the coin toss, but the entire human race will still be wiped out in nuclear war.
There's literally only one ending where Radical-6 actually gets out and it is the one leading to VLR. Every other one leads to nuclear holocaust except the final ending.
>>343479569
M I N D H A C K
>>343479569
2 COMPLEX 4 U
I could have sworn VLR said Junpei couldn't jump through time and he and Clover can only receive information from the past
>>343479905
What did you find so bad about the game? The only issue I had was Kyle not being brought up.
I don't know how I feel about the terrorist causing nuclear war thing
At least in VLR Radical-6 was brought up early on, developed, and went: outbreak -> exploding annihilation reactors (either b/c of suicide or fanaticism) -> RIP 6 billion
In ZTD it's just: vague terrorist attack -> instant global nuclear war
What kind of terrorism makes all the nuke-holding governments blow each other to shit? It's just thrown at you in the last 1/4 of the game, with NO detail whatsoever, and you're just meant to accept it results in everyone dying.
What was the point of the Delta twist, him being there changes literally nothing in any scene besides making you think "oh I guess he could have been there yeah"
It's like it's only there to fill a quota, "Oh the other games had these crazy plot twists so this one needs it too even though it's completely pointless"
>>343479316
Cute
>>343479712
Swear to god I got some PTSD flashbacks after walking in there.
I was hoping it was gonna be a tongue in cheek sorta "haha, look at how dumb those guys from VLR were not just trusting each other!" but fucking Junpei stabbed Carlos in the back like a cock smoker.
the fuck? Why are these threads so active and why do I continue to read them
every story driven game i've played in the last year has let me down
first life is strange, then mgs5, now this
in all 3 games i enjoyed the ride, but they all stumbled at the finish line big time
>>343480025
shit was changed from "able to see different futures" and "telepathy across time" to "WE CAN ALL JUMP THROUGH TIME AND SPACE NOW"
>>343479801
So did I, I can't tell if the people shitting on it are serious or just shitposting memes while they're fresh
I actually really liked Eric
Pod room was my first puzzle room and he's fucking hilarious there
>>343480295
MGSV fumbled at the halfway mark and then made you limp back to the starting line.
>>343480026
>no Kyle
>no Snake
>zero mentions the fucking meeting and the fucking robe is right there and he says a huge truth about the world will be revealed BUT WE DONT FUCKING SEE IT AND IT'S NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN
>Free the Soul is destroyed off-screen
>Left is basically completely unimportant despite his identity being a plot thread left in VLR's epilogue
>brother was a good guy the entire time he killed 6 billion to save 2 billion all according to plan
>>343480371
I'm shitting on a lot of the story problems and disappointments as a big fan of the series.
>no more Zero Escape games after this
>>343480371
There's always going to be people that don't like something, but there's also people who just need time to digest everything that didn't play out the way they pictured it would in their heads.
>>343479774
Another instance: in the Yellow Door node you can see Q's shadow on the floor in a few cuts, but the camera pans around the entire room and Q isn't even remotely visible in any cut at all. There are also four falling sounds heard when they're knocked out (not counting the dropping shotgun clatter), despite Mira being dead at this point.
>>343479801
>more than
Nah, it was ok but I found VLR more interesting and engaging.
>>343480094
>What kind of terrorism makes all the nuke-holding governments blow each other to shit?
You do know how nuclear deterrence works right? The governments of the world keep a stockpile of nuclear weapons in order to make sure that other countries with nukes don't do the same to them. If just 1 country launches an unwarranted nuclear attack the rest of the world would be on their ass and would be looking for ways to spin the attack to their advantage by using it as an excuse to launch their own attack somewhere else
>>343480371
Most of the people "shitting" on it are big fans of the series. I know that I'm personally just trying to 1) talk out the issues I had to finalize my opinion, and 2) hoping someone has a good explanation for the stuff that doesn't sit right with me.
>This game probably would have been the one that answers all VLR questions as well as solving a few 999 mysteries
>Instead they butcher a lot of Uchi's vision just to pander to newcomers
How do I access the epilogue?
>>343480758
enter a fragment, then go to FILES. They're under the Cinema tab
>>343479569
Maybe they were artificial. He is old as fuck, i'm surprised he's still walking.
i absolutely loved ZTD, but there's too many flaws to overlook... i guess you could say my opinion on the game is...
Who else thinks adding a time travel machine to the story only made it worse?
>>343479658
A world without Jumpy isn't a world worth saving.
>>343480879
I loved the ride but was disappointed by Delta's motivations.
>>343472871
This is the same shit with Wooly World, Tropical Freeze and a myriad of other games with Gamespot. Why is anyone surprised?
>>343472871
I just beat itThank you phi for interrupting delta from explaining why they brought akane, junpei and Mira so Uchi could get away with not explaining shit
>>343480942
as a plot device it was okay.
it's """explanation""" was atrocious.
>>343479387
Uh....if Mira stops her past self, won't that mean the whole true ending gets ruined?
Do you feel like Uchikoshi cribbed too much from his previous works?
Or did he put enough clever twists and interesting things so that Zero Escape stands on its own?
>>343478245
Ace WAS mentioned, Junpei said he was in jail.
Same with the robes, in the VLR ending Brother gives them to her.
Same with Brother's age.
>>343481391
999 was a good standalone work even if I could see similarities with E17. VLR is when the rehashing was too much for me.
MY MOTIVES.
ARE.
COMPLEX.
>>343480942
It was vaguely foreshadowed in VLR, so i'm okay with it existing. The "DUDE ALIEN TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS ACTUALLY EXISTED THIS ENTIRE TIME" was fucking stupid and makes VLR entirely pointless.
>>343480525
>>343480525
Q is invisible to the cameras, dumbasses
the truth is invisible
>>343480427
>no Kyle
This is valid. I doubt Uchi straight up forgot, though. Given all the small callbacks to things from VLR.
>no Snake
Why would there be? I get he said we'd find out what happened to him in ZTD, but considering he apparently meant just epilogue shit for the other 999 characters, why would he get any more?
>ROBES
You would have to be straight up retarded to not get that was referring to Akane having gone to the meeting in Beginning or End.
>FTS is destroyed off screen
Their headquarters were. Considering they have 1,000,000+ members, an important building getting destroyed is hardy the destruction of the entire organization.
>Left
He was Delta's adopted brother, it was never a mystery.
>Brother is a good guy
...What?
He did things to achieve a higher goal that could be considered 'good', but that was the case even before the end of ZTD, and certainly nobody thinks of him as a 'good guy'.
I'm inclined to think you just really wanted to hate this game.
Am I the only one who disliked the Phi origin reveal? I was mindfucked at first but then the more I think about it the more I now find Phi's role in Zero Escape completely meaningless.
>>343481368
Stopping her young self will make a branching timeline from that point which will be different from the ZE timeline.
Her original timeline stays, just like Tenmyouji's story about the bikers.
>>343480026
>All my worst gut feelings+predictions about the plot twists and characters were right. Went into ZTD expecting to be pleasantly surprised. Never was.
>I honestly wish all the new characters other than Carlos were returning characters. I'd easily replace Eric with Snake
>Free the Soul, Brother, and Left being shafted. Suffice it to say that they were my favorite plot thread from VLR
>Objectively, the alien thing was bullshit
>The moral of the story about the motorcyclist that Tenmyouji told feels like it was shit upon multiple times
>Almost all the characters unique to the VLR timeline falling off into oblivion. Guess it's collateral damage but still, the lack of acknowledgement stings
>>343481391
I should actually play his other VNs.
>>343478625
>>Delta is 124 years old but is as fit as a very fit 70 year old, with no explanation
quantum immortality
Ok somoene explain me something.How can D-team end 1 be the past of VLR if Junpei and Akane are both death?
The way Akane keeps talking about how much she loved Junpei when they were playing around with his limbs was too much.
;_;
>>343480525
And in the very first scene where Q's shadow is sometimes visible and sometimes not, and the camera again doesn't show him despite him being in its visible field several times.
>>343481571
I wouldn't even doubt Uchikoshi pulling this as an excuse if prompted.
>>343481761
Keep playing the game and you will find out. There is a reason there are fragments past that ending.
>>343479384
it was that easy
that's why people are complaining, it's a 10 minute game
>>343481841
thanks fambalam
>>343481635
I loved D2 end
>>343481509
I love VLR and I'm afraid playing Ever17 will somehow make me appreciate it less
FIXABLE THROUGH QAs
>every complexity of delta
>snake
NOT FIXABLE THROUGH QAs
>open ending
>ayys
I'd say we're fine
is this shit worth the price?
>>343481713
ever17 has a far better final route than any ZE game, but it takes pain and suffering in the form of 12 hours of boredom to get there
>>343480392
WHACCA
>Don't worry, I won't die
>he fucking died
>>343481792
Were they not all fake body parts?
>>343482083
You wish
>>343473230
>she
>Final decision
>If we SHIFT to our bodies in the time line where we won the coin flip then it's unfair because they will be sent back here to die!
>despite shifting various times to get here, resulting in consciences being sent to dead bodies already multiple times... but let's just forget that because that was okay
Fucking really, that final decision was utter bullshit
>>343480863
thanks anon
video game journalists in general are garbage. The only good one is Total biscuit
Literally carrying a ring so he can put it on Akane.
Forget punished, how whipped can one man be?
>>343481647
yeah...but that means mira dies before her 30s
>>343479905
He could have actually upheld his promises instead of lying but that's too much to ask for, and certain fans will enable that behavior.
>>343478526
Newcomers to the series might not like info dumps. :-)
So was Zero's speech to Diana if she pressed the Acid Shower button complete bullshit? Just having some fun fucking around with mom and guilting her the fuck up? Or did he not mindhack her?
>>343479462
Glad I'm not the only one. I'd rather have not gotten the game at alljust like the new Berserk animu
>>343482048
It's fucking awful from a culinary standpoint.
I doubt that Gordon Ramsey would harass random restaurant goers for having shit taste at random pizza places, but if a place wants to call itself high-class it's got to be held to a higher standard.
Remember that Ramsey is actually a fairly okay guy the network just feeds him idiots so he has something to yell about
>>343482152
it would have made some sense
except if they don't shift 8 billion people die
dumbasses
>>343479390
It's in all versions, but it was only voiced in the English dub.
>>343480338
Espers passively buff other espers if they're around them. Sigma and Phi are both powerful espers, but to even activate their abilities they needed Junpei, Clover and probably Dio around to help them all boost their abilities to the maximum and unlock them. Carlos was the same, he needed to be around Junpei and Akane to give his abilities the kick they needed to activate. Diana doesn't seem like she can jump, but she can access the Morphogenetic field far easier than Carlos can.
By the end of the game, there are a total of 6 powerful espers all gathered in one place. Considering only two or three were needed to boost Sigma and Phi (who were already latent themselves) it's no surprise that 6 espers were able to carry the weight of two normies.
>>343481661
>>The moral of the story about the motorcyclist that Tenmyouji told feels like it was shit upon multiple times
pretty much
in this game, the bikers who crash and die basically switch places with the bikers who survived, right before the big accident
over and over again
Now bringing you Zero Escape 4: Back to Baghdad.
>>343482048
Because a well made pizza would taste even better as late night comfort food.
Can confirm.
>>343481391
WHY WAS SHE IN THE WASHING MACHING, THOUGHThere are newfags lurking and posting RIGHT NOW who don't know why she was in the washing machine.I wish I could find a VN that mindfucked me as hard as ever17
>>343482348
But in VLR, the explanation is that stronger espers absorb the resonances of the weaker
Ok, complexity aside, why was Gab getting shot a good thing? He was such a good doggo
>VLR
>super complex plan to send consciousness to the past
>ZTD
>let's just jump around, no problem at all, even people that can't usually do it
>>343478908
It needs to be brighter and match her eyebrows.
>>343482212
It's possible that heMIND HACKedher into pushing the button, but I'm pretty sure Diana staying in the bunker is her own decisionas Delta is dead by this point.
>NOOOOO WE CAN'T SHIFT MUH MORALdilemma
>Junpei and Carlos shift to save their hides a fuckton of times in rapid succession not even that long ago
>>343482525
>VLR
>jumping causes memory loss until you constantly use it
>ZTD
>brand new jumpers have all their memories without any explanation, but even bringing Blick Winkle as an excuse
>>343482212No, it's not bullshit. I think it's possible that he didn't mindhack her but she was definitely not showing some of her other colors. She definitely has multiple personality but not as in the disorder. More like, when she's stressed as fuck she'll become abusive and try to get her way. And if she can't she'll play the victim and try to suicide until she gets what she wants out of pity.
>>343482525
>999
>Junpei is an esper, later realizes Akane is too
>VLR
>Sigma is an esper, realizes Phi is too
>ZTD
>YOU CAN SHIFT, AND YOU CAN SHIFT, AND YOU GUYS CAN SHIFT BUT JUST THIS ONCE
>>343482492
I wanted to play it but people said that the translation is bad
>mfw I made pic related
>mfw pressed the button and cracked up
>>343482590
>completely fine shifting 2 people into gatling gun fire
>all 3 of them fire sending people into a reactor explosion
>>343482493
>999
>you have receivers and senders for the morphogenetic field, they have seperate powers
>VLR
>actually it goes both ways but when strong espers are around weaker ones can't use it
>ZTD
>being around other espers actually makes it stronger and with enough espers makes non-espers into espers
There's no continuity at all.
>>343482764
Well I mean Delta needed as many SHIFTers as possible for his plan to succeed
>>343482806
it's not
>>343482764
they had four "awakened" espers in close vicinity which apparently resonated to give the other's their powers
>>343482847
>press the button
>it just fucking explodes
i laughed too, but why the fuck was that even a decision
That feeling when I enjoyed seeing Akane having Junpei die on top of her in the fireplace.
I am a bad man.
>"Guys this game is only possible thanks to you! it was made for you!"
>That ending
We picked "Ally", but Uchi picked "Betray" after all...
>>343482698
it was addressed once when carlos came back
you keep your memories if you're around enough espers
that's why carlos "just knows" the password instead of remembering why he knows
>>343482979
DO IT
FUCKING DO IT
>>343479292
It's introduced in the final entry in the game, the one that should be wrapping everything up, with no foreshadowing, and isn't even explored that well. It's just, "Oh, I guess we have aliens now." If the technology wasn't explicitly said to be made by aliens or didn't look like alien technology, it could have the exact same role and be at least a little better. If the series was oriented around alien technology from the first or second game, that'd be fine. The concept isn't inherently bad, but the execution in ZTD absolutely is.
>>343482914
What plan? All he wanted was a group of people who wanted to stop a single terrorist, why couldn't he do that on his own?
>>343482850
>>all 3 of them fire sending people into a reactor explosion
While D-Team was still alive mind you. They literally killed them.
>>343483018
I'm sure you people are all shitposters
VLR's ending was more bullshit than this
999's ending had more plot holes and unresolved shit
ZTD is actually the most solid game in the series
>>343483045
It's complex
>>343483063
Oh yeah, man at the time I was annoyed at that until I realized it was Akane suggesting it, proving she will never evolve past 999/VLR Akane.
>>343482979
I think it was a nod to all the decisions in VLR that led to literally the same giant explosion that kills everyone.
Kinda like how most of C-team's deaths are gruesome like in 999.
>your best plan to kill one guy with as much information and power at your fingertips as delta is to kill 6 billion people and hope you hit the jackpot
>>343482493
SHIFTers do that.
ZTD establishes that there are three esper types: Morpho's, SHIFTers, and Mind Hackers. Morpho's boost each other, SHIFTers absorb the essence of weaker espers, and Mind Hackers are unnaffected by either of them. Being good at one means your worse as the other. Junpei, a Morpho, isn't good at SHIFTing until he's around Carlos, a natural SHIFTer, and Akane, who in general is a strong psychic. With enough training, you can presumably be strong at either.
What happens is the different routes train the different party members, who then upload their memories/thoughts/skill to the Morphogenetic Field, which are then downloaded into their bodies, so they remember how to SHIFT. In essence, the Carlos, Junpei, Akane, Phi, Sigma and Diana of the farthest left route are a combination of every possible version of themselves that played the Decision Game.
>>343483102
>999's ending had more plot holes and unresolved shit
Such as?
>>343483102
Except VLR explained all the stuff related to the game only leaving the things for the sequel vague obviously.
>>343483283
read the Q&As again
so, guys...
d-do you think we live in the timeline where ZTD sells surprisingly well and uchi gets to make a ZE4 that follows c team going the terrorist and ties up every single plothole perfectly?
it's a possibility, r-right...
How hard is Junpei going to smash her vagina?
>>343483018
>The person who made ZTD is you.
Hey, don't push the blade on to me, I wasn't responsible for this.Shitposting jokes aside, I think ZTD was my favourite game of the series. I really liked the cinematic style used and the fragment system added some crazy surprises, like the Pantry.
>>343483102
>VLR's ending was more bullshit
>999 had more plot holes and unresolved shit
You really need to give your reasoning for both of these before I write you off as a complete and total fucking retard.
>>343483334
I don't even want a ZE4, I would rather have a mulligan ZE3.
>there are people in this thread that think aliens are real, not realizing that the Transporter is the masterwork of the 1904!Phi, whose resonance with her brother allowed her to become an impossibly powerful esper as they aged.
>>343482806
play it you fuck
it's infinitely better than the shitfest that is zero kyle dilemma
>>343483018
Yeah I'm pretty fucking disappointed and aggravated at the ending we got
>it's all because of you that this game exists!
>doesn't answer half the shit he promised to
>introduces horrible elements to cater to the newcomers because ZE newfags are more important than people who supported 999 and VLR
>gives us the garbage conclusion that is ZTD
goddamn
the more I think about this the more MAD I get
I will never NOT be mad
So you're telling me that Delta, who lived for fucking years and obviously had a lot of resources and followers, couldn't find that terrorist without going full 6 billion? Even his powers are perfectly suited for it.
>>343483334
It's game over, man. Let it go.
>>343481661
>We will never have a ZTD where Snake is a participant, isn't Brother, and is voiced by Gideon Emery
>>343483334
I won't give that hack my money again
>>343483042
They could have just said some random German scientist got the blueprints for it through the morphogenetic field and built it, not really knowing what it was. But no, it had to be aliens.
>>343483374
Glad you like it. I think it might be because I finished it a few hours ago but ZTD might be my least favorite ZE game by a significant margin.
>>343482083
They were all real. When you put Junpei's arm in the microwave Carlos will say it feels sticky and gross.
>>343483102
/v/
I want to take you into my office and talk to you for a moment.
I know there are a lot of suicidal and depressed individuals on this board but no matter how low you fall, know that you will never descend this low
For it takes true genuine talent to be this outright worthless and wrong in every possible conceivable mannerThere does not even exist a timeline where this creature is correct
>>343483429
the terrorist was DIO
read between the lines
What was your first OH FUCK moment thanks to the fragment system?
I played a lot of Q team at first, so mine was seeing Akane get Carlos'd
>>343483463
So they can reveal that the terrorist is actually an alien and that's why they couldn't find him
>>343481212
Goddammit,why did she have to deny the cast (and us) the truth? Someone ask Uchi why she felt the need to cut him off like that!
>that feel when my expectations for Free The Soul and Brother will never be realized
>>343483659
Fuck aliens. Trump was right, we should build a wall.
>>343483334
He's gonna make the next game newcomer friendly which is why it won't resolve those plot pointsBut seriously, this game is gonna bomb whether or not you were satisfied with the game. Life is simply unfair
>>343483640
I literally picked the Pantry for my first fragment.
Junpei's been my favourite character in both of the previous games. It was a legitimately great way to start the game.
>>343483837
I don't know why they went with 3D models and full voice acting, both of them felt very unnecessary.
Guys, I have a question. This was my first Zero Escape game. Who is Junpy and why is he so important?
>>343483903
because the game is clearly trying to capitalize on the success of stuff like Life is Strange and the Telltale games
>>343482048
Gordon loves gourmet food and anyone that calls their restaurant high class will get scrutinized by him.
>>343483965
protag from 999
>no old man in a wheelchair
>no terrorist causing a nuclear war, Brother just wants to purge humanity
how much would these simple changes improve the game?
>>343483726
WHOA, ANON
THAT OPINION IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT ZTD WAS A PERFECT GAME AND ANY OTHER OPINION LABELS YOU AS A <PERSONAL INSULT HERE>, EXCLAMATION POINT
>>343484065
Life is Strange is a bit too recent for it to have influenced the development of ZTD in such a significant way, but I do think the Telltale Games were an influence.
Not even necessarily to cash in on success though, Uchi is westaboo as fuck and I bet he digs it. I bet he very easily arrived at the thought "Okay, how can I use this form of adventure storytelling to tell a twist about how you're seeing from Zero's point of view?"
>>343484169
>brother is snake
>alice is mira and eric's daughter sent to the far past by machine
>clover is junpei and akane's daughter
>>343483463
Yeah, that's what I meant. If he needed the machine as a plot device to get himself out of a corner, fine, but there was no need to suddenly establish that there are aliens in the universe so late, when nothing comes off it.
>>343484169
That's all I wanted. I just wanted Brother to just be an antagonist who sees all timelines and sees humanity cannot be redeemed. I also want Radical-6 outbreak to be an intentional thread by Free The Soul instead of a single accidental outcome on a single timeline. At a certain point you completely lose the feeling that everyone even gives a fuck about Radical-6.
>>343484169
If his only objective was to release Radical-6 there would be no point in holding any kind of nonary game.
>>343484169
I really wish the game subverted the "all for the greater good" endings of the first 2 games and just had the Decision Game to be some sort of plan by brother to release Radical-6 in every possible timeline, and the characters have to use their SHIFT powers to overcome an otherwise impossible situation.
>>343482048
Because Gordon can only tolerate the pretentious world known as fine dining
>>343483873
Same, I fucking yelled when I saw what was inside the freezer
>>343482508
Translation awkwardness. I'm assuming in Japanese Delta said something like 「いい事を教えてやる」. Although that literally means "I'm going to tell you a good thing," the figurative meaning is closer to "I'm going to tell you a secret" or "I'm going to tell you something interesting."
Was it just me, or did ZTD's translation feel a bit more awkward than previous games? I noticed it especially whenever they brought up Carlos' sister complex.
>999: The end justifies the means
>ZTD: Junpei the end does not justifies the means!
>Beginning: I'm gonna save the world, and not even Junpei can stop me
>One of the endings: Fuck you you killed Junpei I'm gonna have my vengeance
Why didJumpy fall for Akane's hypocritical pussy again?
>>343483102
>ZTD is actually the most solid game in the series
Aksys_Danny pls. Just focus on giving us our watches instead of selling it to Anime Expo attendees.
>>343484370
I felt like the whole brother being born in the bunker was such a lazy way to try to give him a motive for why he wanted to create the decision game.
What was with the developers being so focused on making this game newcomer friendly? It's the last game in the series so it's not like VLR where there was any executive meddling to try and make it reach a broader audience. It felt pretty odd whenever Akane and Junpei talked about the events of 999 and neither, Junpei especially, ever brought up thatAkane was Zero
>>343484358
My pre-release guess was: Brother was making them play the Decision game as one last test for humanity, to see if it was worth anything. If they "failed", he would release Radical-6. Like >>343484354 said, I just wanted a Zero who WASN'T working for a greater good - or in this case, a Zero whose greater good was terrible for everyone else.
>>343483431
Delta understands everything, and is never confused.
>>343484454
To put it bluntly, she's really hot.
>>343480392
Same. I loved how he would try to compete withSeanover simple things.
Truly /v/ incarnate
>>343484663
This game was barely made in the first place, with minimal expectations. It would therefore make sense to reach out to a broader audience to maximize sales
Why the fuck is literally every timeline Delta suicidal?
>>343479569
it's not the best idea to conceive children in alien pods
In the biolab, what was the hint for the specimen puzzle? I didn't see the connection so I just tried every combination until something worked
>>343480094
How do people keep thinking it's just some random towelhead suicide bomber when it's explicitly stated that the terrorist set off a nuke?
>>343481391
He basically reuses the same plot twistplayer = zeroin three different and surprising ways.
>>343484764
But anon, I'd much rather put my dick in an average-looking gril than put my dick in attractive but batshit insane.Akane will chop your dick with a chainsaw if you can't satisfy her
>>343484795
>Pretty impressive for a kid your age
>Heh heh, thanks
>Argh, I won't lose to you!
Eric's jealousy of the kid was hilarious
>>343472871
While I appreciate that the game is different from its predecessors I have to agree with the review that it's the worst zero escape game and time won't be kind to it.
Unlike the previous 2 where I was engaged throughout the experience I'm 10 hours in Zero time dilemma and I'm not very impressed. The new characters are lame and Akane and Junpei are now assholes.
Also I never thought the puzzles in Zero escape were good. Unlike proper puzzle games where puzzles have the same mechanics but progressively more difficult like Portal, Zero escape just takes difficult puzzles from puzzle books.
Dialogue was never a good part of the series. Who the fuck has time to talk about some obscure scientific theory when a bomb is going to explode in front of you.
>>343484663
Junpei probably thought that straight up saying that Akane was Zero was a bad fucking idea, considering that Carlos, someone who didn't know about the Nonary Game, would probably immediately distrust either of them.
I still don't understand why are the reasons complex. They seems pretty straightforward to me:
-Be born (and reenact how the future is supposed to be)
-Makes as much possible timelines where humanity survives as he can
-Kill the other bad guy
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>343482410
That's the dilemma, though
I honestly found the not shift option really touching.
>>343485010
Just shift until you learn the ultimate technique.
>>343483726
Well, it seems like a few branches of Free the Soul still exist and that is still a huge problem post-ZTD. You can try to fill in the blanks yourself. With the way Alice described Brother, it's almost like he wasn't even the biggest force driving Free the Soul's evil.I also like to imagine that after the events of ZTD, Carlos rescues someone only to look down and in utter terror realize that he's looking at himself. A man named "Left." I dunno, it could be a start to a fun and angsty story.
>>343485004
why do you think they're all called ZERO escape? :^)
>keep expecting someone to bring up Mira straight up murdering people whenever she feels like it multiple times
>never mentioned
>Delta will NEVER EVER get btfo by something that wasn't part of his complex plan
at least Force Quit: D warmed my heart
>>343485071
Cause one of his motives is also personal amusement, as evidenced by the timeline where Diana melted everyone and he tormented her for shits and giggles
>>343484993
I didn't even mention what kind of terrorist I thought it was tho, take that shit back to /pol/
And the fanatic doesnt nuke anything himself, his terrorism causes a nuclear war
>>343484454
Pussy is pussy, man. Junpei feels an attachment to her and thinks nothing is wrong with her.
>>343483102
VLR left a bunch of shit unresolved because it was specifically set up to be resolved in the third game.
ZTD is just a fucking mess that's supposed to be the end of the series.
>>343485071
To create only a single timeline where he can save people is really bad, and the fact that the only solution he can come up with is a CHANCE that he might be killed among 75% of the human population is fucking awful and inexcusable considering how many resources Brother has.
>>343472871
>muh cinematic experience
>muh waifus
>muh occasional clicking something is gamepaly
whoever buys this shit deserves nut cancer
>>343472871
>blaming anyone with a fully functioning frontal lobe for spamming space+enter to get through a vn
>>343485031
>Who the fuck has time to talk about some obscure scientific theory when a bomb is going to explode in front of you.
Honestly I kinda like that
>>343484960
Medicine tablets + screen.Each specific tablet pack has a corresponding number, and the screen beside where you get those tablets are color-coded. Can't remember the specific colors, but say for example the pack of green tablets form a number 1. The screen beside it has the penguin on a green background, which means you put the penguin on the leftmost side
>>343485191
Nobody ever said a 124yo man can't have fun once in a while :>
>>343484960the pill colors and the monitor
It fucked me over because I thought you used the pills for the centrifuge puzzle instead of the microwave plate
>>343484354
Completely agree with you. Goddamn was ZTD a total letdown in every sense of the word.
>>343484358
ZTD didn't have a nonary game holy fuck why do people still think this
Well damn, those were some short epilogues. I guess the ride really is over now.
>>343484254
>>343484065
>I do think the Telltale Games were an influence.
Uchikoshi has explicitly said as much.
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/zero-time-dilemma-brings-spike-chunsofts-sci-fi-thriller-to-a-new-frontier
>When I spoke with Zero Escape creator Kotaro Uchikoshi at today's reveal, I immediately had to address just how much Zero Time Dilemma divorces itself from the format of the past two games. Unsurprisingly, he cites Telltale's The Walking Dead as his inspiration for breaking away from a more conservative genre, claiming that mass appeal is now vital for Spike-Chunsoft's operations — a Japanese audience alone can't sustain the production of their adventure games.
Truly a game for the fans, thanks Unkokoshi.
>>343484420
I had the exact same thought. As someone who went through the VLR's Japanese track for the first time as a refresher about two months ago, I was really surprised by and impressed with how localized English text was. Not in the censorship way /v/ demonizes, but as a way of making the dialogue sound natural and as if naive English speakers said it while retaining the same information and impact. ZTD has so many awkward sentences and constructions like needlessly throwing 2–3 negatives in a sentence when one would do and just has shit that not even weebs on image boards say often. It's the same shit as in Persona 4 Arena. I can't take the game seriously when someone says "Oh, you're the sister-complex kingpin of steel" with a completely straight face. No one talks like that in English.
I think the main problem is that Aksys, like Atlus, recently lost its main editor that touched pretty much every single game that went out the door. And now that they're gone, the replacements aren't nearly as good. Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker had a lot of similarly shitty writing compared to ZTD, and it makes me fear for Persona 5's writing quality.
>>343485468
anywhere you can read the epilogues?
>>343484169
Significantly. VLR's aims are achieved and we get a neatly wrapped up end instead of leaving room for another sequel because Uchikoshi hopes he gets hired again.
>>343485228
>thinks nothing is wrong with her.
But that's the worst part. Throughout the game, Junpei points out Akane's hypocrisy and near-psychopathic tendencies.
And yet heproposes to her
>>343485160
Would you say that getting the ultimate technique isCOMPLEX
>>343485267
Maybe the reverie syndrome killed most of those who had access to that future.
Also, a single timeline will create loads of others, so it's not *that* bad
The only thing I looked forward to in ZTD was playing a fragment only to find that the rest of my team died or is missing.
Going all solo in the puzzles and making decisions all by yourself seems really, really comfy.Also if only you were able to play as phi in the ending where carlos' arm gets chainsawed off
It's simply unfair, don't you think?
>>343485468
Couldn't even be bothered to animate or voice those. Or mention those files are there unless I missed it.
>>343484732
That contradicts his mindhack powers because he can't really use it to predict the future like Akane can. He only knows what other people around him know, so if he's around people who only progressively learn things instead of just ouright ripping info from the field to manipulate everything. It puts him in a severe planning disadvantage.
>>343484871Because he is playing a personal game with himself that is wagering all the outcomes of each reality that he is present in that he will live while getting the result he wanted from the other Decision Games. That being, wanting everyone to rally against the terrorist.
>>343485486
FUCK
that explains why he ditched the longterm fans who actually supported the fan in lieu for the shitty fucking nip fans who didn't like the series in the first place
FUCK ELEVENS
NEVER AGAIN
>>343485228
>Seek a way meowt!
You will never be Diana's ex-husband and come back to get money and sex off her.
;_;
>>343485594
There's nothing that pops up to tell you that the epilogue files even exist. And maybe I missed it, but did D team even have one?
>>343485580
For someone who wants to help humanity live, I think he could find a better solution than either killing most of humanity or creating the most roundabout game just to create a team of espers to do your job for you.
So was there any reason for Delta to be a part of Q team? It wasn't so he could mindhack them since he was also mindhacking Diana and Carlos who he wasn't even near.
>>343485267
That isn't the timeline where he saves everyone. VLR is in the casual loop that circles back to ZTD. The ending of ZTD is the only history in which humanity has a chance to survive.
>>343485202
>And the fanatic doesnt nuke anything himself
Yes he fucking does, idiot. He sets of a nuke which then causes nuclear war. This is explicitly stated by Delta.
>>343485486
>The Walking Dead
>Life is Strange
I know video games only provide you with the illusion of choice, but what the fuck Uchikoshi? Out of all VNs/point-and-click games, you picked the two most abhorrent ones as your inspiration?
>>343485716
Every time I see him mentioned I want to flip a fucking table.
>>343485729
Just Phi
>>343485468
Everyone's epilogues are about pairings except Carlos's, which is about him and his sister. Only, theirs is written in such a weirdly romantic way that it feels couple-y anyway. Their relationship was weird. I get being close to the only family you have, but I just got plain tired of hearing about her.
>>343485738
Of course there was a reason.Complex motives, nigga
>>343485729
No, best team did not get one.
>Mind Hack only lasts one second!
>controls Eric and makes him shoot himself
Yeah, sure
>>343485561He realized he stuck his dick in crazy, but is still committed.
>>343485820
Japan romanticises sibling relationships. It's just a side effect of Japanese people trying to write a story about American characters without fully understanding cultural differences.
Has this game proven once and for all that Uchikoshi is a hack who lucked out with Ever17 and 999?
Don't forget his other abortionsYou're not Satoru
>>343472871
>Bawwww they don't like muh shitty Visual Novel! How dare you stupid cuck, it's a flawless masterpiece!
>>343485856
I love complex motives as a meme because it just cements everything wrong with Delta and I fucking hate it. I honestly don't even think explaining his complex motives will make me not mad.
>>343485820
Imuoto love is the purest form of love
>tfw the seek a way out jingle doesn't play before the escape rooms
>>343486018
I know. You're not the only one.Infuriates me when shitposters will expect us to settle for this
>>343485970
He's been rehashing the same plot twist for over a decade.
Hell, this entire plot twist about Delta being there all along is just an infinitely shittier version of the same twist in Sharin no Kuni, which did it better in every conceivable way.
>>343485738Because Delta was attached to Sean. I didn't see Delta's physical body at the time but when I first learned about the real Sean, I assumed Delta was the old man in the story. Learning that Delta was actually 100+ years old, just cemented that.
That and Mira was working for him. So, he could keep better tabs on her.
Eric was just the dude who was a normal guy in a setting so it didn't make sense to pair him up with the other SHIFTs and JUMPs.
That's only my theory though.
>>343483640
I picked the biolab for team Q first
My first decision was not to inject.
But aside from that, the library portion.
I chose to shoot Eric first because he's an insufferable cunt.
>mfw
>you will never make sweet, sweet pod babies with Diana while Gab eats canned mush off the floor 15 feet away
>>343485694
Why would he pander to Nips? Were they fans of TWG and Life is Strange?
More than anything, he's pandering to Western sensibilities, and we all know that adventure/point-and-click games here are dominated by the following:
>muh feels
>your choices matter, but only for a few changes in dialogue
It's like fucking watching a C-Tier movie, but only with the "interactability".
>>343485970
I really don't know why everyone on /v/ is beating the shit out of this game.
I think the game is solid. In fact, I think it's the best in the series. I still don't get why you all think it's so bad.
>>343485991
ZTD has plenty of problems but that doesn't mean the Gamespot review is fair or accurate. They clearly did not get the true ending.
It's no better than when Drakengard 3 came out and reviewers only played up to ending A before claiming they'd finished the game. You're not getting the full picture like that and you can't accurately judge the contents like that.
Were there after files for D team?
Only got something for C and Q teams.
Also, I hope this game has some success in Japan.
I want some porn.
>>343472871
>the cutscenes alone are longer than 12 hours
Holy shit.
>>343485506
Seconding this
>>343486208
You could try reading the threads.
>>343486208
Story is shit aside from a couple endings.
>>343486298
The game is 90% cutscenes, it is a visual novel after all
>>343486315
Well, I just finished the game, so sorry, I guess.
>>343485970
PREACH IT, BROTHER
>>343486193
I honestly don't know. VLR wasn't successful because of nips and Westerners were the only ones that showed genuine interest in the series. So fuck them and cater to your homeland, amirite? I really wish I couldMIND HACKinto his brain for a moment and find out why he dropped the series so hard
>>343486208
I noticed a trend where most of the people who have stronger opinions on this game have played Uchi's other games. So I guess the best way to play is not to play his other games
>my face when no final puzzle room or even final puzzle in ZTD
This game fucking sucks
>>343486149
>everyone's actually related to each other
>the player character isn't actually who you think it is
Anything else I'm missing?
>>343486245
But anon, you can't compare ZTD to Drakengard 3. For one, D3 actually resolves most things in a satisfying manner (key word: satisfying and nottext files for an epilogue bullshit)
For one, us DoD/Drakengard fans are masochists. We know Yoko Taro games have horrible to average gameplay mechanics.As an aside, anyone who says that Nier Automata is gonna be horrible because of Platinum is a fucking idiot or a Nierfag. It's been what us OG DoD senpaitachi have been waiting for: a Yoko Taro game with good gameplay
>>343486509
There is a full bingo of stuff
>>343486208
It was a wild ride until the puzzles ran out and Uchi couldn't provide a reasonable catharsis to Junpei/Akane (my main issue) or the ending of VLR.
VLR paves a lot of groundwork for FtS and it's basically ignored in ZTD. ZTD does some really good filling in like the stranded pair ending, the apocalypse ending...etc. But no captivating reason to deliver radical six
For instance, what if Radical six was used to prevent SHIFTing so we wouldn't have a bunch of time jumpers from infinite timelines fucking things up for everyone on all the other timelines? That's probably a good reason to release a virus than to kill a would-be terrorist.
I have a feeling the scope was much greater and cuts were made to the story.
>>343486208
>>343486401
>asking /v/ why they're shitting on things
It's because they're never happy
>>343486208
>3 games worth of build up
>lol I have a COMPLEX plan to motivate you into saving the world, even though you were already motivated to save the world
>Also I was there the entire time but no one mentioned me at all
>aliens
>>343486509
to a smaller extent - you aren't where and when you think you are. Q and D teams had different watch times, and they were sharing the same ward all along
I'm having trouble finding the code for Force Quit: Q. I got the helmet code and figured out the other two force codes
>>343486594
Become an hero, please
>>343472871
no reviewer is perfect, there has been many times when some retard reviewer gets btfo when compared to user ratings.
BUT WHY DID HE KILL GAB?
STOP BULLSHITTING ME. IF YOU SAY THE WORD "COMPLEX" I'LL SHOOT!
western reviewers consistently give lower scores and lower effort to japanese dev games because they can't get mtn dew sponsorships from them and social cronyism
>>343486587
I was ok with the stranded pair ending with Phi, but not with Brother.
>>343486676
You need to find out who Zero is to get the code for it
>>343485742
Could just tell Akane about the terrorist and she'd probably take care of it
>>343486698
No thanks, desu.
Can...a talented someone just come around and debunk the events of or rewrite ZTD for us?
>tfw it'll never happen
>>343486720
Get them mad and make them turn on the bomb.
>>343486720
I swear everytime Eric gets a gun I know I am in for a good time.
>>343486587
Congratulations, you wrote a worse explanation, because for that to work you would need to kill all SHIFTers in all realities, and because they are going to be realities where the virus didn't spread that's not possible you moron
>>343486759
You mean aside fromBrother? Do I gotta watch that cinematic with Junpei and Akane?
>>343486419
I honestly doubt that he was pandering to his homeland.
More than anything, I think this anon sums it up perfectly
>>343484864
When he saw that Telltale's "adventure games" and Life is Strange received a ton of good reviews, he realized that he's gonna pander to that (admittedly) larger audience to maximize financial gain.
At the same time, he's a hack who lucked out with 999 and Ever17, so I can't say I'm surprised he can't write a proper, satisfying ending to save his life.
>>343486453
>do all of the puzzle rooms immediately available in the fragments
>get the popup for the "get all quest files" achievement
>what the fuck that can't be it
>there's only one more room and it's one of the lamest in the entire series, not even having quest files
>>343486720motives
The way Carlos just leaves when Junpei and Akane confess their love and gets ringed.
Carlos, you're alright.
>>343486720
To trigger Americans of course.
>>343486818
>in the Study
>find a grenade launcher
>eric's face when
>>343486178
Not entirely related, but on the same note am I correct in thinking thatDelta was also the senior citizen who spoke to Eric's mom before Mira killed her? I had assumed Delta wanted to give Eric the opportunity to confront the truth about the person/snail who completely changed his life and that's why Eric was included in the game, but nothing really came of it so I dunno.
>>343486720
Because we never saw Gab die in any timeline except that one. So, I guess Delta just wanted to throw Gab a bone.
>>343486271
The left side of Phi's jaw looks really crooked.
>>343486802
"Muh complex motives" pissed me off enough to want to explode, so I think they were more than angry enough already
TELL ME ABOUT ZERO
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
>>343486998
How the fuck do you even Mexican standoff with a grenade launcher
>>343486818
>Ending sequence
>Shotgun falls at Eric's feet
>OH BOY HERE WE FUCKING GO
>>343487103
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>>343486954
Carlos was one of the best things about this very flawed game. I admittedly was very skeptical about his inclusion, but I'm glad I was wrong with my initial assumption.
Gave some good advice to Junpei, puts up with this shit all for his sister, and all the other stuff he's done. He's bro-tier, even though he fucked up with the10 MONTHS
>>343472871
So if Delta's plan was to create a timeline where Phi and him are born with Esper powers - how was ever born at all?
The whole facility and everything in it is only possible because he made it - and they only send the babies back in time.
Did Diana and Sigma get it on in another timeline and produce a non-Esper powered baby? Did Delta grow up in that timeline, get his hands on an alien cloning time machine and then put a gun to Siggy and Diana's head and tell them to make fuck which produced esper babies that he sent back in time to fucking germany so that Delta could grow up and live for fucking-ever because he's some sort of time traveling clone thing so he could lock his would be parents up in a facility so they could make fuck and produce babies creating a loop?
Fucking hell Uchi - chicken or the egg you fuck. Make sense dammit.
Guys, I'm stuck. I don't know where to go.
This is what I've done so far:
[/spoiler]I just got the ending where D and S use the transporter on their kids. I've also searched the portrait and waited the timer at the "Who Killed Mira?" part. Where do I go now?
>>343486831
You can do it using the alien time machine.
Uchi has plural histories but uses a tree-like schema for branching paths.
Just introduce the virus at the root of the tree with the ayylmao virus. You can even handwave it if you so choose to be something like the spanish flu that killed millions of people way back in the day.
VLR end can be a "virus released too late" bad end. At least it's more plot relevant than "random terrorist"
>>343486720
To show that he was a bad guy meanwhile the one they see after the shift has Gab with him to tie his speech where he says "only because he was bad doesn't mean I am too, we are basically different people" or something like that
>>343487123
They had no budget to animate anyone else holding the shotgun.
Was funny to see his finger clip through the trigger when he holds it though.
>>343487119
>grenade doesn't immediately explode
>sean just stands there and lets himself explode while mira and eric apparently had enough time to get behind cover and be completely fine
I was honestly expecting Eric to be fucking retarded and blow them all up, only to be disappointed.
Can someone help, all i have are the force quit boxes, and door of truth and the thing after boy and his ring. there's a few more locked fragments, but i'm at 4 endings now and I can't find more to do. help?
>>343487231
Door of truth.
>>343487202
Is called causal loop.
>>343487284
Sorry, nothing comes to mind regarding 8-digit numbers. Can you give me a slight hint?
>>343487284
where do I find the password?
>>343487190
>Hey guys, it's been 10 months but I'm finally back, I'm saving you!
>MotherFUCKER, look what you've done, the world is a fuck, you could have stopped this
He waited 10 months just to meet them, and that's the thanks he gets ;__;
>>343487231
Make sure you actually see all the executions for each team. It's possible to do all the voting and not see the executions until you redo them.
You will never come home drunk, beat Diana, bend her over the table and fuck her hard.
Why even shift?
;_;
>>343487397
TWINS BIRTHDAY
>>343487264
>eric's hands clip through himself when he folds his arms
>akane's hair clips through her shoulder in basically every cutscene
>>343487273
Make sure you have all the executions checked off. You have to redo the last one you did.
>>343487397
>>343487405
fail it once
So the fanatic blew everything up because Brother died, right? If Carlos pulls the trigger, he fucks up everything, right?
>>343485716
think the ex was still stalking her after she and sigma married?
>>343487397Search the portrait again. Remember when it said 'Twins' birthday' on the bottom? Think about it.
Anons, what was the most enjoyable execution/death scene for you?The Carlos and Akane standoff was just so hilariously bad, with Akane suddenly going insane, destroying the couch, going out to shut down the lights, and then cutting Carlos' left hand before getting her neck slicedCouldn't stop laughing for a good while after that
>>343487482
oh shit this actually sounds valid
>>343487119
At that range, the round doesn't arm and a direct hit with one hurts a lot but isn't guaranteed a kill.
>>343486783
Okay.
>One ending Radical 6 is released, Akane confirms it's the VLR timeline. She even drugs Junpei.
>In the events leading up to the force quit box and the reveal, Delta talks about how he needed to see how timelines change because of decisions
>Since he ran the game, and saw his mom and dad get stranded, he exists in the first place
>Sigma and Phi send their brains back from the future to try and stop radical 6 from ever happening
>Zero caught onto this before the decision game started, which partially explains the coin toss and all that bullshit he was going on about the future of mankind.
>The payoff 2 ending is important because even though it fades to black, it shows that delta got all the information he needed because of how he can view other histories and how he learns about shifting
>Which makes VLR more relevant and so on.
Can't really explain why he thought releasing radical 6 was gonna work in the first place since the 2nd payoff ending, it doesn't happen.Or maybe he injected someone, let's say carlos with Radical 6 after he made them all fall asleep after the coin toss
Since after allThey did Shift to when everyone was outside DCOM...After they were drugged. As Sigma said, they don't know exactly what went down in there, after all
>>343487438
>diana will never ask you to sleep with her
Why even have 18 inches?
>>343487256
If you send the virus so early then either humanity is domed or they are going to repopulate the earth eventually and you are going to have a bunch of quantum loopers anyway, how does that solve shit?
so in the ending that ends being the VLR timeline when the D team gets on the elevator they see the Q-Team but say nothing about Q missing since he is obviously alive since he talks to Akane and Junpei later
>>343487494
ex was probably still stalking her but I think Diana was more content now that she had Sigma. I still think she's going to fuck the relationship though because neither her nor sigma had brought up anything about her obvious mental disorder.
>>343487432
The funniest part was how they just left him standing there, with his best I'm-dumb-as-fuck expression.
Shit was hilarious. Thank you Carlos.
>>343487549Akane smashing carlos with the ice/fire extinguisher. She looked insane during it.
![4b3c00528242d5376ed37db224022a1e[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ePPs0xk.png "4b3c00528242d5376ed37db224022a1e[1]")
Uh, guys...
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/driver-flips-car-after-sliding-on-snail-slime/69576
>>343487576
>they had to redesign this trap because shooting a blank that close would still kill you
>no clover in the entire fucking game
>>343487703
FUCK
>>343486720
Because thats what makes one evil
>>343487450
>Carlos putting his hands on his hips despite missing a hand
>>343487703
Cheryl Santa Maria
Digital Reporter
SANTA?
MARIA?????????
>>343487703
COMPLEX
>>343487703
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>>343487703
Life isn't fair.
BEST STORY IN ALL OF VIDEO GAMES
>>343486720
Seriously, it's not hard to believe that in every single timeline Gab was still alive the gang threw a hissyfit and refused to jump until eventually Delta got sick of that shit and just busted a cap in that dog's ass to make the decision easier.
>>343487703
IT'S HAPPENING
>>343487438
it looks like her eyebrows were pasted on backwards
So wasRobot Sean the snail?
>>343487716
I was actually surprised when Sigma said he might have ruptured his eardrum from the noise.
50/50 MY ASS
It literally, no exaggeration, took me nine tries in a row before I shot Sigma. NINE. IN A ROW.
>>343487743
Good.
She was stupid as fuck in VLR.
Same goes for Alice. Fuck both of them.
>>343487438
Why would you beat up Diana though? She's been through a lot, anon ;_;
She needs someone to cuddle her every night, comfort her when she's unsure of herself andHAVE HER BUTTHOLE DESTROYED WITH ALL OF 18 INCHES [/spoiled]
>>343487703
Damn it, I have a weak constitution, I won't survive a Radical-6 outbreak.
>>343487579
>>If you send the virus so early then either humanity is domed
25% survial rate of hundreds of millions is still millions of people and none of them shifters.
Uchi basically implies that its genetics that determines shifting. Other people can also do it but need someone who's a natural to help.
Only thing I can't think of right now honestly is to prevent shifters coming into the survivors from alternate timelines, but ideally that wouldn't happen since those timelines couldn't occur in the first place. Maybe make free the soul some sort of anti-shifter secret society that wants to destroy access to the field somehow or something. I dunno, I'm just making shit up.
>phi anime kicks delta while he's explaining why he needed junpei, mira, and akane there and interrupts him
>he never resumes
FUCK YOU UCHIKOSHI YOU FUCKING HACK
>>343487549the evil Q scene. it was like something from dragonball z and i couldn't stop laughing after it punched carlos into the x dooralso, the light surrounding carlos was just
>>343487837
At least it's not as bad as MGSV
Would Eric still be with Mira if he knewshe gutted his mom and made his childhood hell?
>>343488057
>successfully didn't shoot Sigma with the live round the first time
>try to shoot him again to kill him
>three times I got him to live
>making it 4:1
>>343488154
Did anyone not think Carlos was going SSJ when that happened?
>>343487190
Seconded. Don't get me wrong, it was really disappointing to see him lack any real character twist but the same can be applied to most everyone else.I like to think hat eventually he realizes that there's better ways of saving people with his ridiculously well developed esper abilities.
>>343488096
Goodbye anon ;_;7
>>343486720
>>343486720Gab is a shifter, he was using Gab's access to the morphogenetic field to plan the events of ZTD. He wanted Gab to transmit along side him to the CQD end 2Gab is also not a dog, but an alien
>>343472871
alright you faggots are always going on about this game so i guess i want to give it a try. this a series or something? where do i start
>>343487549
when youpress the button
i didn't realize it would be that fast
also not death related but one early scene when junpei makes a joke about gab being a hot dog and then they cut to carlos's face, and it was fucking perfect
>>343487453
I have all the executions
What do?
>>343487549
The one where Diana fucking shoots Sigma.
>>343488154
>>343488154>the Seanbots keep striking poses before they unleash attacks>Carlos powers up, roars, and annihilates one of them
i was in fucking tears
>>343488296
time-out when kyle is asking youwho killed mira
>>343487438
>>343488071
I wonder if Sigma drilled her assand if he did, how does she shit?
>>343488265
No, it's because Gab is the actual mastermind.
>>343488268
Play 999: 9 Hours, 9 Doors, 9 Persons. You can either emulate it or buy a physical copy for DS/3DS or just wait for the Steam release.
Then play VLR, you can get it on 3DS or Vita
Then play ZTD, you can get it on 3DS, Vita or PC.
Now get out before you get spoiled.
>>343488339I'LL BE WITH YOU SOON SIGMA
Holy fuck man, I just finished the game like 2 minutes ago and I had caught glimpses of threads where people said it was a pile of shit, but I didn't want to believe. I haven't felt like this since finishing MGSV last year. Honestly, I can forgive most of the small problems and the really wonky animations ruining some of the scenes, but what really got me was:
1. No payoff for the wholeAkane is going to wear the robes to some meeting in the future
2.AYY LMAOTechnology
3. Some of the characters acting really out of fucking character despite what they've already gone throughlike why the fuck are Sigma, Phi, or Akane freaking out whenever someone dies or is about to die when they know about shifting and they've done it and acted nonchalant about it in VLR?
4. The wholeQ was actually Delta and was there the whole timething.I get that there were some references I missed, but unlike the Sigma is an old dude plot twist, it felt like they cheated given there was little foreshadowing
I really wanted to love this game, and I could even forgive Uchi not making good on all those promises about the story he made given their tight budget and time frame, but I still feel like I got Kojima'd. I even started looking on the internet to see if I missed some hidden ending like VLR had, but no.
>>343488268
With the first game, like you would any other series
>>343488353
As you can see, I clearly did that one.
I've got four endings.
I really want to cum on Diana's socks. She keeps showing them off like a slut
>>343488373
>steam release
Is this even confirmed?
>>343483283
>>343483379
Not him but these are some I noticed:
Such as why did Seven not mention that Akane didn't die? Why did he specifically say she did die? He should have recognized Aoi/Santa and Akane once he regained his memories, yet never mentioned anything. Why? Why not mention it in the safe route when he regained his memories before shit started popping off?
Why did Snake not recognize Seven's voice? Can't use the puberty excuse there. Why did Snake say Akane died? Snakes bracelet is on his fake arm. How does it detect his heartbeat?
Akane's bracelet actually being a 9 is pointless. Santas being a 0 is equally pointless. Literally only there for the reader.
Why the fuck did Ace go through the Library/study door instead of just going the fast way to the incinerator? The story made a point to stress that the so-called-ship was built 100% the same as the first nonary game. Was this one thing changed?
Junpei, despite being Akane's childhood friend, never once thought to ask "do you have any siblings"? She, as a child, never volunteered this info? They were elementary school students, so the siblings should have been going to the same school.
First 2 could be explained by saying that they are co-conspirators, but since it's not mentioned or hinted in the story it's a plot-hole. Third is just shitty writing, I guess. Rest is plot holes.
>>343488268
999, then VLR, then ZTD
>>343488230
I usually hate goody two-shoes characters, because more often than not they don't develop further beyond that. However, with Carlos, I think his naïveté and perceived lack of urgency beyond his main goal of saving his sister is what's most endearing about him.
Really, there's a ton of stupid and hilarious shit in this game, and Carlos is usually directly involved or causing it.
>>343488419
I agree with most of your points besides #4. I felt the same way after I finished, but there's actually a ridiculous amount of foreshadowing. It's more what they don't show than what they do: it's hard to believe that not once did anyone from Q team or any of the other teams once they met up directly reference Q.
>>343487549
AB game or the gatling guns
>>343488419
>I had caught glimpses of threads where people said it was a pile of shit, but I didn't want to believe.
Same. I don't even remember what thread it was, but around 6 days ago some entirely ZE-unrelated thread had a guy say he was looking forward to it, and someone else replied to him saying he might want to wait for a sale because the game brings more questions than answers and doesn't resolve things.
I should have listened.
>>343488128
Mira's there because she gets Akane involved.
Akane gets Junpei involved because of his detective work.
This was explained in two separate endings, even if it was vague.
Then again, if Phi didn't interrupt him, he might have spilled the beans about Akane setting up the AB game, which would fuck over Sigma and Phi's plan to shift to the past.
Any news on the second game getting a PC port as well?
I loved 999 on the NDS, but I can't play the second one, and it's killing me.
>MIND HACK
>>343488419
Akane wears the robes in the epilogue of VLR when you go back and find out you have robot arms, so you can assume she just came back from the meeting. It's just that the important part, the whole "I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT GOD YOU ACTUALLY WORSHIP" world-changing, mind-blowing secret is never fucking revealed to us.
>>343488448
I was in your position too, anon. For some reason, even though I had all four execution options lit, I had to see them all again before I could progress. Try going back to each vote (the decisions, not the cinemas), and re-voting til you see all 3 executions again.
>>343488296Try typingDeltaon the who to kill screen in the crossbow fragment.i see that you completed the time travel fragment, so you should know who delta is, right?
>>343488097
>hundreds of millions
>But at the root of the tree is not that far into the timeline, the root is the beginning of humanity
>Uchi basically implies that its genetics that determines shifting
Yes but mutations still occurs and the game implies that you can active your almonds before nutting by being in danger and you get super kids
>>343488296
Try replay decisions for voting scenes, starting from the decision not post-decision cutscenes
>>343488570
>there's actually a ridiculous amount of foreshadowing
And it's very poorly done. See >>343479774
>>343480525
>>343481793
>>343488268
try lurking the fuck more
>>343488353
>kyle
>>343488419
Hope you're ready for anons projecting their headcanon unto you that Akane went to that meeting
>>343488585
Was it a thread about VNs in general? If so, that was me.I TOLD Y'ALL NIGGAS. I TRIED
>>343488570
Yeah, foreshadowing isn't really a problem with the twist. The real problem is it doesn't fucking matter, it's basically a twist for the sake of having a twist.
I'm just going to leave this hear. Don't press it
is VLR coming to PC lads?
>>343488724
>Was it a thread about VNs in general? If so, that was me.
Yeah, I just remembered. You tried, anon.Go read Fata Morgana, the twists in that are a lot better.
>>343488748
PRESS IT DIANA ITS CLEARLY NOT A TRAP
>>343488402
>once you get the 18 inches, you can't let go of itIt's not radical 6 who's killing everybody, it's Sigma's cock.
Is this the most smug Zero we've ever had?
>>343488748
But if you just leave it there someone will eventually shitpost hard enough to bait another person into pressing it.
>>343488748
If we weren't supposed to press it then it wouldn't be here in the first place. I'm gonna press it.
>>343488748
Anon says we shouldn't press it, but he's our enemy! We should do the opposite of what he says!
>>343488678
They are waaaay more clues than his shadow in some scenes
>>343488627
Speaking of executions, there's very clearly red blood coming from Sean in Q team's execution.
>>343488748
>hear
>>343488836
What is that about?Fuck me I already have an xboxhuge backlog of actual books that I can't even get through
>Danganronpa and Ace Attorney have anime adaptations
>No Zero Escape anime yet
Life is UNFAIR.
>>343488647
oh jesus christ, i did not want to know that one
>>343488748
What can go wrong?
Why did people hate the twist and ending so much? From the moment Zero revealed himself it was pretty much nonstop laughter, especially whenhe had Wesker's voice. Fucker just kept showing up in every timeline just to be smug, even when you end up outside
>>343488894
How is Sigma such a retard?
>Since Sigma and Phi changed the participant list for Dcom, there was a very real chance that Diana's husband also signed up for the experiment to stalk her
>>343488862
He was so smug his smugness rubbed off on his dog
Man, I really fucking hate Eric. Is his whole existence to be a ball buster?
Great. outright betraying the other teams is unavoidable, just like being a dick to Luna in VLR.
I suppose I'm approaching the true end?
>Yes but mutations still occurs and the game implies that you can active your almonds before nutting by being in danger and you get super kids
R6 could weed out that specific mutation as mentioned, and moreover, 999 events imply that Cradle Pharm had to go through shittons of kidnappings and profiling and research, only to find 18 kids who had affinity for the field, and AFAIK none of them were actual shifters. Only Sigma and Phi could shift. Akane who had huge affinity couldn't shift during the nonary games.
If they are a small minority throughout most of the timeline, it shouldn't be a problem to purge shifters.
>>343486183
>Someone saved my pic i made months ago
This is a good feeling.
>>343478563
6 billion wat?
>>343489017
>"Press it Diana, it could be the switch to stop a bomb from detonating"
Nigga it was the exact reverse opposite, it WAS a bomb
Was the entire project in VLR rendered pointless by the fact that Kyle's not relevant to ZTD at all? From what I took from the Another Time ending it seemed like Kyle's consciousness was the key to getting an outcome in ZTD where everyone survived. It seems like a good ZTD end was possible without VLR even happening due to infinite timelines and shit. But after finishing the game I'm even more confused about timeline stuff so there's probably something I've got wrong
>tfwthat scene when they panned the camera to reveal Delta and I thought it was fucking Gab for a few seconds
It would have been so much better than what we got.
>>343489017
Sigma was right about drinking the antidote, using the transporter, and shooting the gun though
>>343488895
Don't pretend that excuses those scenes being bullshit for the reasons given.
>>343488956
>What is that about?
A person is brought to a mansion where he's told four stories from its history and then learns the layers of truth behind them and how they relate to each other and the person's own identity. It's easily the best story I've read in years. The soundtrack is also great and there's a link to the demo in the Steam forums. Don't know why it's not on the store page.
>>343488678
The shadows, and to a lesser extent Eric talking to "Gab" aren't the best examples of foreshadowing, and they do feel kind of like the writers just put it in to prove to people that the twist wasn't a complete asspull. I think the best instances of foreshadowing are when you know something is off the first time, but you don't realize why. For example, in the three-way standoff, if you enter Q, it tells you to put in Q's name, but if you enter Sean, it doesn't work. I was really confused at this point and just decided that Zero must've lied about Sean's name. The other best part is if you tell Eric that Q killed Mira. He says that doesn't make any sense and shoots you. I honestly thought the devs fucked up at this point and forgot to program a response for Q because they had one for Sean, but later it all makes sense.
>>343489160It was a dropped concept. ZTD was basically a standalone game to appeal to newcomers and casuals
>>343489170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw
I wanted it to be that too, anon.
>>343489017
>sigma is a literal genius who cures radical-6, makes robots completely able to fool humans, and fucking clones himself
>not to mention his SHIFTing bullshit that allows him to gather the information from all timelines
>in ZTD he's a fucking moron and is scared of Phi and himself dying for some reason when he knows he can just SHIFT and fix everything
>>343489017
>>343489193
The teams being split into three was seriously retarded for this, because every single decision gave you one person taking each side to the detriment of their actual character. Sigma and Phi should never have acted as retarded as they sometimes were.
>>343489160They rushed the game and didn't consider that they were fucking the entire story or they didn't care. Just let it go anon.
>>343489170
God, me too. I honestly wouldn't even be mad if that was what we got.
>>343489160From what Sigma said when he was dying, he more than likely made Kyle just because he was lonely, just like Luna
>>343489207
He moved, I mean is really clear that he does at least in the bar scene by the fact that he left a drink in the counter
C-Team path was absolutely amazing. It was the most insane Zero Escape game yet. Everything from the AB game and on was just awesome and hilarious
I'd follow Team C anywhere.
>>343489227
Yeah, those actually were good examples, along with being told there were 9 participants in Dcom, yet among the 9 people in the Decision Game nobody recognised Sean. My only point is that the given examples of the camera fuckery were bullshit.
Who's ready for Uchi to confirm Kyle is Gab in the Q&A?
>>343489170
I thought that? was Zerofor a split second.
>>343489017
Sing it with me, folks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk4ftn4PArg
SIGGY SIGGY SIGGY
CAN'T YOU SEE?
SOMETIMES YOUR LOGIC MYSTIFIES ME
AND I CAN'T STAND YOUR OLD MAN WAYS
GUESS THAT'S WHY YOUstarved to death in an underground bunker, advocated for giving the other teams a nice hot Hitler shower and wanted to press a big blue button that was clearly labeled 'do not press'
>>343487549
WhenSeanrefuses to kill anyone and Eric shoots him the grenade launcher. Funny as fuck.
>>343489458
Nigger the drink is there for the entire scene not moving at all, same with Mira's. And every time you do see Delta's shadow it's in the same spot. And there's no way he just moved around in the pod room unless he also has the power to shrink himself behind people's shoulders to not be seen.
>>343489537
More like more disappointments in the Q&A
>>343489541I thought that ? was Q was Delta was Zero after the standoff scene and your camera goes down as Deltra dies
>>343488230
I know.
Had a bunch of ideas for how his resemblance to Left could work. Implanted memories, his life being a lie. Perhaps being a Left that was a product of a time paradox, or a clone that lost his memories very early on.
Hell, he could've been Brother but somehow be unaware of it.
As much as I adore him, I wish Uchi took advantage of his Left-like looks. Would've been a far more graceful and satisfying way of tying Free the Soul into the story as well.
Do you know thathe says the same line as Dio in one of the escape rooms? Oh, and in some of the promo materials he was the only participant situated left.
Has Uchi just been bullshitting us or something?
>>343489575
I had it out for him ever since then, with his "what an idiot" thing
>>343489523
No, your point was the ridiculous amount of foreshadowing was poorly made and that's is bullshit in the majority of cases
>tfw what makes me the most mad is thatthere was nothing as emotional as 999's ending where Snake dies or VLR's Luna ending in the game
I thought theending where Diana gives birth to Phi and Deltawas pretty neat though, probably the best O FUCK moment in the game.
>>343489170>"Zero is... you, Delta !"
>"What are you saying, Sean ? He's called Q"
>>343489107Yeah, you're pretty close at that point. Once you hit Q team's death shower scene is where you'll start tying up all the loose ends.
>>343489632
He is the camera, that' why you never see him
>>343489748
>You don't know what your point was, let me tell you what your point was
I have no clue what to do. I filled the whole chart except for the tree under the "Get Back" cinematic after the Door of Truth and the tree under "Don't Press the Button".
>>343489836
Can he fly?
>>343489751
I feel the same way. The ending whereit turns to VLRs plotgot me a bit when I realized it was happening.
>>343489839
>I explicitly wrote something but is fine because now I'm backpedaling
>>343489864
Give me a whole picture of your global flowchart.
>>343481212
Akane and Junpei were needed to resonate with Carlos.
Sean was needed to help carry out his plan and also because Delta missed the real Sean who died because his surgeon died in a taxi accident.
Mira was there because she helped set off the events with the killing at the trail with the snail. Eric was there because his mother died to Mira.
>>343489926
Yes, his chair can fly
>>343472871
Who cares, his points were fair. Gamespot Is one of the few trustworthy review sites.
Wouldn't this game be cheaper if they just kept the backgrounds, but used sprites with lip animation with a set of expressions?
So I'vegone through the door of truth and watched the cutscenes. The flow chart's been reorganized. Now where do I go?
>>343489864
You need all the execution scenes of the first voting
>>343489762
That was a pretty fucking good reveal, but the more I thought about it the more I thought it was bullshit with all the camera trickery.
>>343479445
Is she cumming?
>>343489836
Actually this is only true for a couple of shots, like when you see a whole team sleeping then white noise.
>>343489926
Sure
>>343479445
I really want to hotglue moe Akane
>>343489926
He's not flying, he's accessing one of the cameras with his glasses.
>>343489946
Everything not pictured above or below is filled out.
>>343489998
That moment was fucking insane and it sealed the deal, too bad after that the ending was just an enormous mess. Overall it's a great game, but the weakest ZE.
>>343489989
I've done them all.
>>343490098
Make sure you view all of the executions from the voting. They should be filled in on your chart.
>they allshift and remember what happened in every single history
>no one fucking makes a move or even fucking mentions the fact that there is a serial killer in the room with them, let alone attempts to restrain her
Out of all of Uchi's sins, that was one of the most grating.
>>343489984
to the exclamation points or just look over the team's charts. It's pretty linear from that point.
>>343490098
The executions...
>>343489984
>>343489984
>>343489984
>>343489984
help please?
>>343490029
No, that's him seeing a literal camera in his glasses, I meant he being the actual observer for Q Team
>>343490205
thank you
I GOT SIGMA AND DIANA TO MAKE THE NASTY
SO I GOT THE CODE FOR THE BOX
ITS THE FUCKING BROACH AND THE BLUE BIRD
I PUT IN BROACH, I PUT IN BLUE BIRD, I TRIED BIRD CAGE
ERROR ERROR ERROR
JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO TYPE, I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO PUT IN THERE, WHY THE FUCK IS THIS HAPPENING, IT'S NOT FAIR.
AT LEAST SIGMA GOT HIS DICK WET.
I KNEW THERE WOULD BE FUCKING IN THIS PLACE, SOMEONE WAS GONNA GET LAID I TOTALLY CALLED IT.
>>343490228
post flowchart
>>343490168
Not what shows on the chart. You get other scenes if you do different combinations, for example even if you already did each choice individually, go back and condemn each team. IE: do both votes for C team/Q team/D team. You get the scenes where they die and new paths unlock.
>>343490191
She only want Eric and everybody is fine with that fact, even Eric
>>343490229
Okay then explain why the game isn't blank when he's dead
Akane says she has to start over from the beginning during the VLR path ending. Does this mean she's old Akane in her young body just like Sigma and Phi?
>>343490098
> you looked up the fqb passwords
Why.
>>343490209
>>343490184
Did all the executions. Checked every picture and every one I did is fully completed.
>>343490305It's a music box, you fucking nerd
>>343490305
Learn how to spell brooch, idiot. Did you not even look at the subtitles?
Love the "Who killed Mira" part.
I was just randomly telling Eric bullshit and watching him shoot Q over and over.
>>343490305
It'sBROOCH, with 2 Os and no As
>>343490305It's brooch not broach, and blue bird is correct
>>343490305
It'sbrooch
>>343483726
>expectation
You mean headcanon?
>>343489984
Do the executions. Go back to the vote and do two votes for C, two for D, and two for Q, and you'll see new scenes and unlock new paths.
>>343490370I was up playing till 6am the other night and wasn't going to be able to play for a bit and I was already getting mad at this game.
>>343490326
A quantum computer can record all possible video signal.
He is not dead, an alternative version of him is, that's why you can also see any scene with him as a character from a third person perceptive
>>343490305
>tfw I got stuck on this because I didn't put a space in blue bird
>>343486783
Debunk? Do you mean find a way to effectively pretend ZTD's events don't matter?
I dunno, maybe you can use the Multiverse theory to say that the ZTD is only a possibility of what could've went down at the test site. If you wanna get extra petty about it, you can say that the mild lack of continuity between VLR and ZTD is because the VLR timeline that ZTD leads up to isn't the one we know. What actually occurred at the test site, along with its epilogue, could've been different.
>>343489751
The reality ending for Sean got me pretty bad.
>>343490574
I didn't even type that, I typedmusic boxand it worked
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>>343484370
If those happens you guys would just complain 'baww delta is just one dimensional character, he's evil for the sake of being evil'.
>>343490415
>tfw got pissed off when Q wasn't working so I put in "yo mama"
>>343490480
That was probably the worst decision you could have made.
>>343490574
are you me
>>343490391
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>>343490574
THE PROBLEM ISN'T THIS GAME
ITS THE FACT I CAN'T SPELL BROOCH
HA HA
>>343490319
ok I understand now. How the fuck was I supposed to figure that out
>>343490659
But people love Dio.
>>343490574
Holy fuck this. I tried so many things, and it took me probably about 10 minutes to realize there was a space, and I felt like a fucking retard. Apparently there's multiple answers though becausemusic box and blue birdboth work.
>>343490690
Did you not see the skull and crossbones 3 times next to the blue thumbs up?
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>>343490684
this is a great reaction image. I'll get one of the PC version
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