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Now that the dust has settled can we agree thatBethesda is shit like oh my god
>>343461692
we learned this from skyrim
>>343461692
They didn't even try
>just fill it with raiders lol
what was even the point of pic related?
>>343462098
The first time you come across it, it is an interesting diversion (not too hard, but still)
Each location could have been so much more, but it descended into Shooty McShootface.
>>343461692
I could forgive them, I really could, but I wont because FO4 modding scene is practically FUCKING DEAD and now that piece of turd cannot be even polished. How could they make a game so bad even modders left it?
>>343463927
It's either a combat and loot area or it's a big empty space of nothing intended for you to make a settlement. Honestly, I think the settlement thing damn near ruined the game. There's almost no interesting areas because LOL MAKE ONE YOURSELF.
>>343461782
we learned this from oblivion. morrowing had the only good artsyle and was the only time gamebryo wasnt laughably archaic
>>343461692
IT'S NOT TODDS FAULT
IT'S EMILS
TODD DID NOTHING WRONG
>>343464396
actually its was me and my shills, sorry /v/
> Make a racing track
> Bots running around the track for bets
> Make betting slips and place them around the entire track
> Player thinks oh shit I can do some gambling
> LOL NO RAIDERS JUST WANT TO MURDER YOU INSTEAD OF CHEAT YOU OUT OF YOUR MONEY
Why make all that presentation and waste it?
>>343464271
what was wrong with oblivion
> Walking past Lexington following a train track.
> Approach a graveyard with a crying female raider kneeling over the grave of what appears to be her dead husband.
> Oh shit some humanity from raiders! What a sight good job todd.
> Approach her, maybe its a quest or I can console her with a speech check?
> LOL NO RAIDERS, SHE GETS UP AND INSTANTLY ATTACKS YOU
hey guys remember when raiders in fallout werent all mad max insane murder hobos
>>343461692
I played Skyrim and Fallout 3 recently and noticed this recurring problem with Bethesda's idea of storytelling.
> Have quest
> Only way to solve it is through a handful of pre-scripted paths with clunky dialogue sections instead of just letting you improvise a creative solution
Bethesda's so in love with their writing that they'll force you to watch scripted conversations that you can't even interact with in over a third of their quests. Even New Vegas wasn't this bad.
it was the scripterst that held everyone back. someone argue with me over this.
>>343462098
To fill you with a sense of crippling disappointment. Truly, Bethesda's holistic approach captured the feeling of utter, apocalyptic despair worked like no other.
>>343461692
They are actively trying to scare off whole mod community right now. I don't really understand what's their end goal at this point, even EA looks more reasonable.
> People legitimately side with the Institute after they made FEV mutants for shits and giggles.
> People actually side with the Institute after its basically revealed they want to replace humanity with synths because no specific reason but "uhhh...science".
>>343462098
Could've been like paradise falls, you could've had fun betting on rigged races or doing some quest involving the guy rigging the races, but no. Hey we are enjoying a race but here's a random wastelander. LETS STOP EVERYTHING AND KILL HIM
You know what? TODD YOU PIECE OF SHIT GET IN HERE I GOT SOMETHING TO TELL YOU
>>343464959
It's ironic because Morrowind was the exact opposite. As they increased their production values, they had to prune a lot of the underlying systems that made their old quest design so open. You can't taunt someone into attacking you, sweet talk more information out of someone, or bribe a bystander into looking the other way unless they specifically intend for you to. For all their talk of Radiant AI and a reactive world, they sure axed a lot of the avenues for immersive roleplaying.
>>343464959
this can't be real
>>343465396
it's not, you wouldn't be able to stream if it started update
>>343464663
Oblivion was a pretty egregious retcon of the lore. TES has always played it relatively loose but this was the first time that an entire setting was completely rewritten.
Cyrodiil was hinted at in earlier games to be an interesting mix of the late Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire. I think the closest visual example that's similar to that is the version of Consantinople that was in Assassin's Creed: Revelations.
This was the real complaint behind why Oblivion felt so "generically medieval." The prior lore described it as completely different, but they went the quick and easy way anyway. It reflects a lack of respect towards your established playerbase when you just rip entire chapters out of your lore like that.
>>343465206
>Institute wants to test experimental new crops on the surface
>Instead of using their teleporters and robots to set up a farm literally anywhere in the wasteland they decide synths is the best approach
>Kidnap random surface farmer, rape him to death, replace him with a synth
>Grow crops for experiment
>When experiment is over make sure to kill the farmer's family too because we have to make hard choices in the name of progress
>DONT QUESTION ME YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SACRIFICES WE HAVE TO MAKE FOR THE GREATER GOOD
>>343465446
It was only culturally Roman/Byzantine. Aesthetically, it was a mix of what you'd see in Imperial settlements from Morrowind, Mediterranean architecture, and a lot of Akaviri stuff.
I still played it and enjoyed it because I'll literally play anything Bethesda shits out, but it's not good. Super rushed, super samey, there's zero soul in that game.
>>343464934
I miss that.
>>343465446
never knew that! I can imagine cyrodil would have been much nicer if it was in the style of your pic related, i suppose graphical limitations might have made it a little difficult to create though
>>343465243
You called, dreamboy?
I want my Mods for PS4!
>>343465763
>if you have high luck and wear a certain outfit, there's a chance all the Khans will think you're their old leader come back from the dead
Video games don't have fun anymore.
> There will never be another Obsidian produced Fallout.
I really really want another West coast game.
I despise Todd's fan-wanking over the Brotherhood of Steel and Vault-Tec.
>>343465906
why would you get a console version for mods? fucking get a PC lol
>>343465103
its like pottery.
the post-apocalyptic despair transcending the virtual plane and becoming meta.
>>343465863
I'M NEVER EVER BUYING YOUR SHITTY GAMES
I'M GOING TO PIRATE THEM ALL AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
>>343461692
It's a good game. Bad rpg.
Only Obsidian shills hate it. This is coming from someone whose favorite fallout is New Vegas.
>>343465989
Am Poorfag.
>>343462098
Blue Balls: The Location
>>343464178
We get what? 2 main towns, 3 faction bases (4 if we count the vault since it's similar in size), two or three slightly unique 'settlements' and a dozen shitty 'farms'.
It looks like quite a lot when I type it out yet in game none of it feels connected. With the exception of Diamond City, they're all essentially isolated from the world. Even then, DC is in the middle of a warzone and doesn't seem to have any viable routes for traders to come in and out. I'm honestly surprised they didn't plan any DLC features for the settlements because the state they shipped it in is hilariously shallow outside of the building.
The world design is just fucking awful.
>>343466123
>>343465025
Probably a bunch of """""game design""""" graduates
Then again maybe the scripting system is so shitty and fragile things have to be basic and rigid to keep things from breaking
>>343466446
Lord Todd... May I have my Mods on PS4 now? I bought the season pass....
>>343461692
But I had fun with the game. I even managed to enjoy the building segments (sort of) once I figured it out.
>>343466531
"..."
>>343464663
Level scaling out the ass to replace anything interesting. All dungeons are the same unless they're for a quest. You never have any reason to go into a random dungeon, since there is never anything there.
The combat is slow and boring too, worse than Morrowinds once you get the hang of it. Morrowind at least lets you kill things quickly. Scaling in Oblivion made you worse as you leveled up.
The only things Oblivion did alright in Combat were manual blocking and being able to cast with your weapons out.
> Buy the game and play it for 20-ish hours
> Realise its shit
> Brother bought me the season passActually enjoy Far Harbour but everything else so far dogshit.
>>343466446
Todd please you cant do shit
>>343466885
> play a game for 2 hours
> "You clearly haven't played enough to make a full judgment!"
> play for 20 hours
> "Then why did you keep playing if you didn't enjoy it?!"
>>343462098
>reload checkpoint prior to it a dozen times hoping that maybe the game glitched out and there was some actual way to interact with it
>>343466907
YOU WANNA FIGHT, HUH!?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343465863
>...Anonymous
>07/02/16(Sat)03:39:24 No.343465863
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>>>343465243 #
>You called, dreamboy?
>>>343466123 #
>>343467178
>super saiyan
Bitch please I'm fucking superman
>>343461692
FO4 is best fallout. Fight me bro.
>>343467559
Can't beat someone you can't touch super loser.
>>343467123
I never wandered over, I just learned about the disappointment second hand.
Combat Zone was bad enough for me.
>>343467840
>aww, yeah!
>can't wait to come back with my melee build
>i can't believe NV didn't have an melee fight arena!
>this game might not be so...
>wait they're shooting me
>wha- did I do something wrong?
>am i wearing something that they don't like...did i kill someone associated with these people
*one google later*
>...oh, they're scripted to fight me no matter what
>thanks todd
>>343468210
>>i can't believe NV didn't have an melee fight arena!
>he forgot about The Thorn
>>343468210
>i can't believe NV didn't have an melee fight arena!
But it literally did.
>>343468210
>no fight arena in NV
>What is the thorn
>>343465442
Two computer setup makes sure twitch doesn't lag your game. This actually happened to someone.
>>343468507
>>343468449
>>343468340
I'm aware of the thorn. I was thinking of boxing on the strip/the pitt's psuedo gladiator combat + a ladder to fight through a-la oblivion.
Fighting in the thorn was entirely unrewarding.
>>343466885
far harbor was kinda fun.
writing 100% better than the main game
The constant rads was stupid but at this point my character has 100+ radaways
also if I felt like the radiation had a reason other than bethesda couldn't make it difficult any other way
>>343468927
How about fighting the legions slaves?
>>343469772
>New Vegas had two unique arena setups with their own questlines and supporting characters
>Fallout 4 couldn't even manage one
Bravo, Todd.
>>343468210
>its okay, ill quietly leave the area and kill some raiders, put on their gear then come back
>come back with raider outfit on
>they shoot at me instantly regardless
great job todd.
>>343466476
that's a good point about the system. do you agree that scripting caused a lot of problems in other departments of the game?
>>343469965
Is Todd just the laziest motherfucker on earth or is he actually retarded?
I probably would've enjoyed FO4 if it had all of New Vegas' politics at play.
Wasn't very interested in the shattered remains of one empire (the Commonwealth and its boogeyman) compared to the fighting of two and every organization stuck in-between.
>>343470647
>Obsidian could get looping reloads to work on their shitty branch of Gamebryo
>Todd couldn't even do it on his updated branch
I'm pretty sure he's just lazy.
>>343470647
I think he's surrounded by retards and embraces each retard, leading to his own retardation.
>>343470647
I honestly think he has good intention, but got mislead in what his fans wanted after normies started spouting the "bethesda can do no wrong, for REAL gamers, etc" shit
>>343464663
Condensing lots of skills into just a few. Removal of spears. Condensing individual armor parts into sets. No robes. No regular clothes under armor. Quest pointers while not including any dialogue giving you directions. More buggy (a feature that grew with each installment). Isolated cities instead of being part of the open world. Consolized interface.
>>343470647
Yeah, they try to change stuff but it's always the bare minimum amount of effort put in cause they know most of their fanbase is retarded and will eat it up either way.
/r/ing the vids of those guys that imitate oblivion NPCs. Shit is fucking hilarious.
>>343471353
I gotchu fampai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN80_7rNmcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x-x0gawck
>>343471467
>those ragdolls
>>343461692
I learned that games developed by Bethesda are shit until modded
But they are a pretty good publisher consider Doom and Wolfenstien were the most surprisingly good games of the last 5 years
>>343471653
I recentlytorrentedWolfenstein and was honestly surprised at how fun it actually was.
Played it entirely through in 2 day sitting.
>>343469965
They literally gave players tools in a settlement DLC pack to create death arenas.
So lazy they couldn't it themselves, so they gave players the pieces and told them to figure it out.
>>343461692
I'm still disappointed that the dog conversation doesn't zoom in to his face Oblivion style, and has him spout out barking sounds at varying pitches to sound like it's talking, ala Banjo Kazooie.
And this is what a dog looks like on a last gen game.
>>343471172
>Removal of spears
People sometimes say it doesn't matter and that no one used spears but I loved them.
They were fun weapons to use, good for kitting, strong and trained endurance so you could better control your level ups.
Spears are kick ass.
>>343461692
I remember watching the E3 reveal.
>So have you ever wanted to create your own settlements, like Rivet city, and Canterbury Commons? It just werks.
No. Not really. I play games like these to explore what the developer made for me, and to escape the world's responsibilities.
>Crowd goes wild
No quit that you fags. You're gonna fuck this up. Don't encourage this.
>Game comes out and is literally just raiders and loot, or large expanses of land for you to "lol. Make the game good urself, fag. Enjoy feeling bad about the minutemen sleeping in the rain with no clean food or water."
Even the interesting areas like >>343462098 were just raiders, because it's our job to make the game good now.
Fucking Normalfags fucked it up.
And then this year's E3 they were talking about settlements with their obligatory tits lady
>Like ELL OH ELL, I spent at least 30 hours making my own stuff. It was epic for the win xD
And of course the normalfags ate that shit up for the second time in a row. And it's most likely confirmed that ES6 will have settlement building or something else shoehorned in so the devs can sit back and beat off, because we are the ones who are supposed to make the game good now.
Fuck bethesda, fuck Todd. Fuck it all. Why did it have to be like this.
>>343464271
Oblivion was actually a decent game for its time tho. Skyrim on the other hand is a more cadualize dumbed down oblivion.
>Fallout 4 was even worse than 3
>Bethesda literally announced Skyrim 2 at e3
>TES VI will be worse than any of us can possibly imagine
will some ever make a good open-world RPG ever again?
>>343473279
>>TES VI will be worse than any of us can possibly imagine
This is what would keep me up at night.
>>343472919
TES VI will not have readable books, calling it now.
>>343473423
>Bethesda added "readable notes" to Fo4
>they were less intuitive than the notes tab from 3/NV
I'm still pissed they axed the keyring.
>>343473279
>>343473378
>>343473423
TES VI will have one voiced character for all races. ready your bp's.
>>343473423
>No readable books
>Settlements
>Shittier and lazier writing than skyrim
>"UNLIMITED QUESTS"
>It. Just. Werks.
Anything else to add to the "don't wish list"?
>>343465442
He's not streaming via software on his PC, he's splitting his HDMI to a capture card on another PC/laptop.
Some CSGO players do that to ensure absolutely nothing is eating resources other than their game.
>>343473786
>voiced protagonist
>"extensive" crafting system (for a whopping twelve total weapons)
>skills removed entirely
>>343472919
Why can't people in the settlements do shit for themselves they literally JUST stand there in a group like fucking brain dead retards also the building was so limited I just stopped caring
>>343473786
>It takes place in Hammerfell
>In the Alik'r Desert
>There is only one tent for the player to sleep in
>Entire map otherwise empty
>>343470792
>looping reloads
?
>>343474034
Oh right. How could I forget. Voiced protagonist.
>Speech that comes to 1 option
>Yes
>Sarcastic yes
>No(Yes)
>Maybe(I'll say yes later)
>>343461692
Is anyone else shper pissed that Bethesda wont rven use it's own fucking in-game assets as DLC?
>No further Brotherhood or institute xpac
>No Memory den shenanigans and Anchorage sone better
>No Sea of Tranquility dlc involving the Moon
WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT TODD?! WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE WAS HAVING THIS IF IT WASN'T EVEN CONSIDERED VIABLE DLC?! Fuck your stupid Hearthfire jewish trickery.
>>343473624
>every race will be its own Preston Garbage
>>343474205
Sawyer did a video on how getting reloading animations to contextually loop for certain guns proved to be very difficult on Gamebryo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjH4s06XXQY
Far Harbor added a lever-action rifle with a looping reload. Except it's not actually a looping reload; it's a regular reload that looks like it loops; no matter how many bullets you have left, the animation will always show you reloading as many bullets as you'd need to if it were empty.
>>343465763
To be fair, the Khans were pretty fuckheaded too. They have the grace not to shoot you on sight, but their justifications for raiding Shady Sands don't seem to go any further than "mumble mumble the weak should fear the strong I guess?"
Don't be so negative. People expected too much from Fallout 4 without realizing that their last Fallout game was released in 2008 called Fallout 3 (which also had bad writing). Bethesda was never good at making Fallout games. FNV was from Obsidian.
As for TES series. I personally think Morrowind =/> Skyrim > Oblivion.
TESVI will come out in 2019 atleast. I still have high hopes for this game after watching Todd's E3 2016 interview. Before TESVI, BGS will release two new IPs. One of them is a GTA clone.
>>343473279
>>343473378
>>343475075
TES 6 is gonna have an aliens expansion. Mothership Zeta 2: Magicka Boogaloo
>>343475075
Is this a hint that the next Elderscrolls will be in Valenwood? You'd need beefy hardware to create those massive trees.
>>343475184
They are probably combining multiple provinces in tes6. Like Elsweyr + Valenwood.
>>343467118
Why do you think your dislike of a game requires validation from other people?
>>343474940
>TESVI will come out in 2019 atleast. I still have high hopes for this game after watching Todd's E3 2016 interview. Before TESVI, BGS will release two new IPs. One of them is a GTA clone.
is this a bait post
>>343474892
Of course they were cunts, they were raiders. But that was when raiders were gangs that actually coordinated and had their own little society and hierarchy. Now they're just generic Mad Max junkyard zombies that kill everything for no reason.
