Degenerates like you belong on theNEW VEGAS THREAD
how can i repair my reputation with the ncr? i heard you can get a big rep boost in LR?
>>343439741
The more I think about it, the more I prefer Caesar's Legion over the other factions.
Anybody got a list of Must Have mods to just generally make the game better?
>>343440273
It's fun to be the bad guys.
>>343440838
It's not even that, but how they work is pretty great. Sure, they're brutal savages that enslave people, but in the end, the world is going to be better for it.
The horrible things they do is to instill fear into others. You see how people try fucking with the NCR? You can't pull that shit with the Legion or they'll put you on a cross.
Enslaving? Sure, it's horrible, but it's all in the name of progress in the end.
They're trying to build a society on brotherhood and loyalty. The Legion is going to try to conquer as much as it can before it inevitably falls. When it does fall, the remnants of the Legion will lead the wasteland into a better future. They learned that consumerism and reliance on technology is wrong, they'll stay away from drugs, they'll avoid conflict and greed because the Legion conditions you to not think for yourself, but for your community.
>>343439741
>>343439741
these BITCHES
I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT BEING JUMPED BY THESE FUCKERS
BASTARDS
Im abou to repaly after a year, any advice to diversify my experience?
>>343440267
I think if you either bomb the legion, or at least don't bomb the NCR you get a big rep boost
>tfw Caesar still sends assassins after you yet you still rape each new group
>>343439741
how does The Legion economy works? I don't get it.
My ps3 will be repaired tomorrow and I can continue playing new vegas tomorrow.
>>343443029
>New Vegas on a PS3
Why would you put yourself through such a thing?
>>343442616
You can get that cut content mod that removes the barriers in freeside, adds in a ton more peopleincluding pickpocketsto the strip/freeside, and adds in gamblers streaming into vegas like they wanted. Add in jsawyer with the wasteland economy mod and you got a winnerI haven't tried the cut content mod myself. I only learned about it after I started a new playthrough and you're only supposed to start a new game with it
Well that fully depends on what you've already done.
>>343443140
Trophies are worth having to play with less than 1 FPS at times for me.
>>343440378
Yeah, it's calledFallout 4
>>343440838
>authoritarians
>bad
Hey lads. I decided to make a beginner's guide for New Vegas.
Opinions? Suggestions? Potential additions?
>>343443589
Every faction other than Yes Man is authoritarian, to be fair.
>>343443406
Go away Todd
Was the Legion the good guys?
>>343442113
>Enslaving? Sure, it's horrible
Playing devil's advocate here, why is enslavement horrible? Surely if a people aren't able to protect their rights, then they never truly had them to begin with?
This is the same reason I don't recognize Turkey as a state, it wouldn't have been able to protect itself from Russia if Britain hadn't put pressure to let it exist. Not a valid right of conquest, because they couldn't defend it, someone else had to step in for them.
Ultimately, in the real world, you don't possess that which you can't defend.
>>343443406
Suck my nuts, Toddler
>>343442989
Caesar sends frumentarii after Graham still.
He clearly has issues with people challenging his authority
>>343443015
We haven't really seen how it works, all we've ever seen of them was a forward military outpost and we've only heard bits and pieces.
>>343443247
PS3 version is objectively worst version
I've been thinking of having a play through as an unarmed, low-intelligence character and was wondering if I should go good or bad karma.
>>343443725
>beginners guide
>nothing but mods
we lad
>>343443882
this guy's role is paddling a raft and he's lecturing folks on usefulness
>>343444091
yet he invites you after fucking every one of his plans in New Vegas and still believes he can get you to give him the chip.
>>343443882
Of course they are.
>>343443725
>Reccomending DUST
Why would you try to trick people like this?
>PB
Is that even close to finished?
>>343443015
The Legion is a self sufficient army composed entirely of conquered, self sufficient tribals
Inside Legion land, traders accept Legion coin because it's all they're going to get. Outside Legion land, traders accept Legion coin because it's made of precious metals.
>>343442113
Yeah but how fucking long is that going to be? And the current society for them is that only like, two people really know Caesar's goal. The actual surviving faction will be slavers and fuckwits who continue based on a tradition made up on the spot, by Caesar, to facilitate the end to justify the shitty means.
>>343443901
>This is the same reason I don't recognize Turkey as a state, it wouldn't have been able to protect itself from Russia if Britain hadn't put pressure to let it exist
top fucking kek
where to fucking begin, even
>>343443882
That depends on your definition of good. You'd lead a better life under the Legion than the NCR but you don't have the freedom to act like a fucking retard.
>>343444187
Well, you might want to read the guide first. New Vegas isn't really a game that requires a guide for gameplay purposes. 99% of the time newbies want to know what mods to use.
>>343444360
DUST is a quest/new wasteland. I stated pretty clearly there that it's seperate from the base game. I could add a clarification that it replaces the normal game whilst installed?
As for Project Brazil, they're nearly there. Still worth a go on a following playthrough. Again, I stated it was seperate from the base game.
what weapons should I use for a ditzy girl with 10 luck run? what skills besides speech should I tag?
>>343444720
pistols with high crit chance.
lucky, that gun, lil devil etc.
>>343444604
>You'd lead a better life under the Legion than the NCR
By what fucking definition?
>>343444889
Well for one, there's about 0% chance of being stabbed by a Jet addict desperate for their next fix in Arizona
>>343444889
I'm assuming it's a freedom vs safety scenario
>>343444889
by not getting killed or raped by raiders or gangs.
>>343444889
Backbreaking slavery life is good, anon. And being cannon fodder is great fun.
>>343440378
Fear and Loathing in New Vegas is the most in-depth and comprehensive guide atm, but there's a lot of worthless, bloated shit in it. I'd say get jsawyer, Project Nevada (turn the de-lootifier off; jsawyer has its own) and maybe True Wasteland Economy if you want to make the game really difficult.
>>343444864
I was thinking explosives for that harley quinn vibe
>>343443195
Thanks for advice m8
>>343445168
>confusing "life under the Legion" for "life in the Legion"
>>343444515
>And the current society for them is that only like, two people really know Caesar's goal.
It's actually fairly straight-forward, restore order to the wastes.
>The actual surviving faction will be slavers and fuckwits who continue based on a tradition made up on the spot, by Caesar, to facilitate the end to justify the shitty means.
If the system works, what's wrong with that?
>where to fucking begin, even
You are aware that Russia was able to liberate plenty of the Balkan peoples while sustaining markedly lower proportional causalities, compared to the Ottoman Empire, which did lose more than a third of it's men and this was only against Russia and the Balkan resistance fighters. If there was a hypothetical Austro-Hungarian Empire and Russian Empire pact to slice the Turkey, there wouldn't be a kebab state in Anatolia and even without that, the Russian Empire had more and higher quality manpower compared to the Ottoman Empire, as evident by the force-to-casualty ratio of the Russo-Turkish war.
I don't even know why I'm even bothering posting a reply like this to some cuck on /v/ who doesn't even /his/.
>>343443901
>Playing devil's advocate here, why is enslavement horrible?
Stopped reading right there
>get the enclave Remnants to help out during Hoover Dam
>Cannibal Johnson mowing down enemies and saying "there's still bad guys left to fight"
>>343443725
Replace JSawyer with Project Nevada, you autist. PNV adds much more and is 10 times more interesting than jacking all the damage values to max.
I feel that C.A.G.E. would be a fairly good one to add to this.
>>343445168
>Backbreaking slavery life
Sawyer on the matter:
>the majority of people enjoy safe and productive lives (more than they had prior to the Legion's arrival)
>Water and power flow consistently, food is adequate, travel is safe
>Corruption within the Legion is rare and Caesar deals with it harshly (even by Legion standards)
>People who keep their mouths shut, go about their business, and nod at the rare requests the Legion makes of them -- they can live very well. Many of them don't care at all that they don't have a say in what happens around them (mostly because they felt they never had a say in it before the Legion came, anyway)
Basically what >>343445150 said. You give up your freedom to be robbed, kidnapped and raped in exchange for a safe and stable life, as long as you're willing to obey authority.
>>343445359
man, it's like no ever looks at the readme of jesawer
>>343444515
>Yeah but how fucking long is that going to be?
Either when The Legion crumbles or they've conquered North America.
In the end, you're going to have people who put their community above themselves. A community free of drugs and greed.
>And the current society for them is that only like, two people really know Caesar's goal. The actual surviving faction will be slavers and fuckwits who continue based on a tradition made up on the spot, by Caesar, to facilitate the end to justify the shitty means.
You don't have to know what Caesar's goal is to achieve it. Throughout the game, The Legion has shown that they're pretty intelligent. Caesar isn't the only brains in The Legion. Decanus, Centurions, and Frumentariis have orchestrated severals attacks and operations that had taken the NCR by surprise.
So no, it won't just be slavers and fuckwits.
>>343445347
That's not an argument anon, if you're not able to think logically about both sides in a debate, then you clearly aren't 18 years old and should leave this website until you are.
>going through The Underground for the first time
>seemed neat but got bored so I just wanted to go back to the mojave
>literally surrounded by tech raiders everywhere
>mfw
>>343443725
>with the expectation that you're...
No, it does not. It's already shit in the first fucking sentence.
>>343445753
>>343445576
Seriously, PNV is vastly more interesting, it's configurable, and makes them game function better both as a shooter and an RPG. JSawyer isn't automatically better because it was made by, well, Josh Sawyer.
>>343443195
>>343445227
bear in mind that freeside open has no mercy for toasters
>>343445285
>>343445673
Yeah but if you're not in the legion territory right now, tough shit for you. If you're in a faction opposing them purely by chance, tough shit for you. They buy slaves and take slaves, they don't give a shit and their army composes almost entirely of slaves and soldiers trained from birth.
Look, I'd rather live in the NCR that stand for freedom and liberty while in the Legion I'm going to have to comply by their shitty morals so I'm not a degenerate. The NCR might be corrupt but it's better than the alternative.
>>343444257
kek
>>343445359
>replace JSawyer with Project Nevada
>replace the mod that's basically an official patch with a bloated mod that adds modern fps shit
Project Nevada's a good mod for a more fps-like run, but I would never recommend it for a first playthrough.
Plus, with jsawyer ultimate you can use both.
>>343446090
>fuck_everything.webm
>>343445938
the appeal of JSawyer is that it's changes are simple and intuitive. It's not a massive overhaul mod that changes every facet of the game. It's small re-balances to perks, weapons, hardcore mode and leveling.
Reminder that buzz cut/saw is cannon
>>343446037
>Yeah but if you're not in the legion territory right now, tough shit for you.
What's stopping a local community leader from pledging to Caesar?
>If you're in a faction opposing them purely by chance, tough shit for you.
What's stopping you from pledging to Caesar?
>They buy slaves and take slaves
So?
>their army composes almost entirely of slaves
That's completely wrong, slaves are used as laborers, not in the army, read a fucking history book like Caesar did, fucktard.
>and soldiers trained from birth
So?
>>343443725
Not bad, maybe replace JSawyer with JSawyer ultimate, and maybe give a quick summary of each special attribute.
>>343446378
>What's stopping you from pledging to Caesar?
Idunno, maybe they'd sell me as slaves? Would you honest to fucking god give yourself up to the Legion? You'd be retarded to go for such an uncertain future, anon. And imagine the people in the game being real people who are worried about their own safety and not reading 4chingchong and knowing all we know about legion territory.
Besides, as peaceful as legion territory is, it's bound to have downsides like dying to the simplest fucking disease. I'd rather live in the NCR.
>>343446630
>Besides, as peaceful as legion territory is, it's bound to have downsides like dying to the simplest fucking disease
this, Kaiser straight up tells you legionfags have zero medical knowledge
>>343443726
Yes man can be authoritarian too, depending on what you're roleplaying.
>>343445836
Dude, come on. If you'd never heard of Fallout before you'd be fairly lost upon starting the game.
>worst faction has best characters
>>343446771
who needs meds when you have healing powder and bitter drink?
>>343445938
Except PN adds lots of unnecessary shit that makes it a slightly better shooter (though I think it just bloats and clutters the game) but definitely not a better RPG.
JSawyer is essentially an update/patch by Obsidian. It's well within the intention/design of vanilla, which is why it's an "essential" mod on the guide.
>>343446378
>slaves are used as laborers, not in the army
No, Caesar's Legion is all slaves. There isn't a free man in it besides Caesar himself. Even the intro calls them "a vast army of slaves".
Being born and raised into the Legion ranks doesn't make the men and women any less slaves. They have no choice in how they live their lives.
>>343446870
New Canaanites?
>>343446870
you talking about the legion or the savages?
>>343446778
not that guy but new vegas was my first fallout and reading up on the lore was sufficient. I didn't really need to know that the ranger armour was based on Tycho or that you can have a F2 companion's daughter as your companion
>>343446759
He keeps the Legion ignorant on purpose but the towns in Legion territory are probably better off, so long as the doctors know to never treat a wounded Legionary
>>343445227
any time senpai
>>343445359
>>343445938
You're an actual retard if you think having PN on first playthrough is a good thing. Second playthroughs? Whatever, go wild. Install sexout and fuck a deathclaw in bullet-time.
But the first playthrough should simply be a patched version of the developer intention, i.e vanilla with DLC, bug patches and JSawyer with restored content. Which is exactly what that guide is saying.
>>343447049
You don't NEED to, which is why the guide says yes and no. Playing Fallout 1 and 2 first puts New Vegas into a hugely superior perspective and level of context, and generally makes the experience a lot richer. Hence why it's highly recommended, but not required.
>>343446630
>Idunno, maybe they'd sell me as slaves?
If you're weak and worthless maybe, unless you already have a farm or some other stake of value, in which case you'd just be a legion citizen. Why do you assume Caesar would take people willingly pledging themselves to him as slaves? Willing workers need not be treated badly. You're grasping at straws and going hurr durr slavery right now, without even stopping to think for a second.
>You'd be retarded to go for such an uncertain future
Can say the same to you regarding the NCR, at least with Caesar, you only have to worry about the Legion bossing you around, no rapist-murder gangs roaming about.
>And imagine the people in the game being real people who are worried about their own safety and not reading 4chingchong and knowing all we know about legion territory.
Most people are jaded to the point of saying that it doesn't matter who's in charge, however plenty do say that they've heard that Legion lands are incredibly safe.
>it's bound to have downsides like dying to the simplest fucking disease
You're assuming that the military not having medical specialists means that none of the communities have medical specialists
>>343446759
You're making the same retarded assumption.
>>343446630
>And imagine the people in the game being real people who are worried about their own safety and not reading 4chingchong and knowing all we know about legion territory.
that is actually a very good argument. just talk to some people in the game. most of them don't know much about the legion, just heard that they use slaves, burn towns and crucify people. no one gives a shit or even has heard of 'muh hegelian dialectics'
>>343447045
what's the difference?
>read NV threads
>think about exploring the Mojave
>decide to pick up New Vegas again
>realize the most recent save is right at the beginning of Dead Money
>Alt-F4
I keep telling myself I'll play through all the DLCs eventually, but every time I try to get through them all I want to do is trudge around the desert and listen to Radio New Vegas. I haven't even passed the point of letting Dog/God out of its cage.
>>343443901
Do you recognize Israel as a state?
>>343446929
>this libtard logic
>not realizing the same retarded bullshit applies to every single coherent faction in reality or fiction
Is this really the level of argumentation that anti-Legion cucks bring to the table? You belong on a cross, profligate.
>>343446778
You'll miss some of the history and backstory to some of the factions, but it's not entirely needed to enjoy the game. The only time where it's needed to be familiar with the original games is that guy next to the Mormon Fort who gives you the NCR History Quiz.
>>343447338
savages don't bother making up a reason for acting like savages
>>343440378
http://pastebin.com/Hh3XkZhJ
I made a Vanilla Plus modlist a couple weeks ago and updated it just now. Maybe you'll find something useful in it
>>343447394
>Do you recognize Israel as a state?
Not any more than Turkey, no. It was artificially created and it is artificially defended, while Turkey was artificially defended and neither of these two states were based on the existing native culture, so as far as self-determination of the natives to form large groups and organize into a government, no, neither Turkey nor Israel fit that bill.
>>343447893
*Or a state being set up by an invading force which has the capacity to defend it's statehood over time without outside influence, otherwise referred to as rightful conquest of a state.
I chose independent cos i had a massive addiction to psycho and didnt want the legion or ncr trying to stop me
>>343447224
Or you can do what I did and just read the various wikis for hours upon hours
>>343447893
what about Belgium and Poland?
>>343447995
New Reno is still Jet Central so I doubt NCR cares
Trying to play this in VR at the moment and using iron sights is "interesting" to say the least. I may give a melee focused character a shot instead.
>>343447331
Yeah, for being so very merciful and accepting they sure as fuck don't do a good attempt at getting people over to their oh so peaceful utopia. Wonder why?
>>343447279
>If you're weak and worthless maybe
Yeah I'd love to have my old dad get shot in the head for being fucking useleess. Meanwhile on my NCR farm he can live in peace and die old.
>You're grasping at straws and going hurr durr slavery right now, without even stopping to think for a second
I'm not, you're making an assumption that they'd just accept people into their land. That's a retarded assumption to make.
>You're assuming that the military not having medical specialists means that none of the communities have medical specialists
You can't possibly expect otherwise. Why'd the frontlines be devoid of meds, while the Peaceful Utopia™ would have it?
>>343447526
Are you seriously making Legion vs NCR a fucking "le libtard vs le conservetards" thing? Fucking seriously, anon?
>>343448053
Im not taking that risk
>>343448017
Poland established itself as a state during the middle ages, of course I recognize it as a state.
Belgium gained it's statehood during a revolution, nothing wrong with that either.
>>343448053
If you hop the Misfits up on Psycho, they'll be executed during the ending. So the army at least cares.
>>343448393
>Poland established itself as a state during the middle ages, of course I recognize it as a state.
I meant more after 1918 or 1945
>>343448421
You never join the Army, though, you're a civilian contractor to the end. You even get the highest civilian award instead of a medal
>>343448134
>Yeah I'd love to have my old dad get shot in the head for being fucking useleess. Meanwhile on my NCR farm he can live in peace and die old.
Ok, you're being a fucking idiot now, if you have a farm and he can be useful to it, there'd be no reason to kill him, plus nowhere is it stated that the Legion kills the old.
>I'm not, you're making an assumption that they'd just accept people into their land. That's a retarded assumption to make.
No it isn't, because from observing Caesar's actions so far, HE FUCKING INCORPORATES COMMUNITIES INTO HIS LANDS, SO CLEARLY HE'D BE EVEN HAPPIER IF PEOPLE SWORE ALLEGIANCE WITHOUT THE NEED FOR STRUGGLE. You're just baiting aren't you?
>Why'd the frontlines be devoid of meds, while the Peaceful Utopia™ would have it?
Because the communities were all pre-existing communities, and as such would have some established method of medical treatment, even if basic.
>>343448134
>Are you seriously making Legion vs NCR a fucking "le libtard vs le conservetards" thing? Fucking seriously, anon?
Saying this after you opened with "le all men are slaves under authority xD vote Bernie #feelthebern" is pretty weak, cuccboi.
>>343448490
If you're referring to the whole USSR deal, that's a very tricky question, we'd have to establish if any Communist regime can be properly called a state, considering how artificial communism itself it, what with denying natural facts in favor of it's own dogma. I guess maybe using the word nation would be more appropriate than State, however a nation can exist within a different state, so the semantics are a bit blurry. I'd say that Poland is for sure a state, because the USSR was not a state, while modern Russia and the Russian Empire prior were both states.
>>343448393
Turkey as a state is comrised of the Turkish peoples. You know, of the Turkish tribes? The "Ottomans", and even further back the Seljuks? Your recognition of what a state is is bizarre.
>>343443725
>install mod manager
Is NMM bad or something? I only started modding the game a few weeks ago and I haven't had any issues.
>>343449046
okay, last one: Belarus
they baffle the hell out of me because technically I guess they should be considered Lithuanians if it hadn't been for the USSR
> all these poor people not understanding civilised society
Absolutely disgusting if i do say so
>>343448702
What if I don't have a farm but an old dad to take care of? What if I have a farm, but it's in NCR land? Yeah, giving myself up to the Legion would be a good idea.
>medical treatment, even if basic
So, like herbal tea.
>>343448806
>you opened
Actually different anon.
>>343449182
>Turkey as a state is comrised of the Turkish peoples. You know, of the Turkish tribes? The "Ottomans", and even further back the Seljuks?
Top fucking kek. So the natives of Anatolia were all exterminated to the last person and the homelands of the Ottomans and Seljuks got completely desolate because they all moved to Anatolia. Do you even think before you post? Of course, a lot of racemixing happened, but modern day Turkey is about as Ottoman as it is Greek/Anatolian.
Bethesda should just have
Obsidian develop all future Fallout games, fuck.
Hey /v/ I've been thinking of making a build based on Brad Armstrong from Lisa. How would I set this build up?
>>343449253
NMM is bad but it can work if you're only planning on having a few mods. If you plan to mod at least a moderate amouby or want to be able to swap mods easily MO is vastly superior. Setup is slightly trickier, but once you have it going it's easier to change things and has no chance of fucking up your game and requiring a fresh install, unlike NMM.
>>343449274
I'd honestly consider Belarus like a province of Lithuania or Russia, it neither has a distinct ethnic or cultural background and they never really consolidated themselves into a proper state, always being part of this or that and then popping up as a country after USSR fell apart. In my opinion it's just a province.
>>343449440
I'm saying your idea of a state is flawed. Poland, according to you, should logically be no state. They were absorbed by Russia and before that they were wrecked by Austria, Prussia and Russia again as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Essentially, they could not defend themselves and were picked apart. The only reason you recognize them is because they go by the same name of Poland of the past, because it's the same peoples anyway, anon. This is why I compared it to the Ottoman and Seljuk turks. It's the same peoples.
Does anyone know if YUP fixes the Radio New Vegas bug where Big Iron plays instead of Stars of the Midnight Ranges? I have a mod for it if it doesn't, but I don't want to have two ESPs if I don't have to.
>>343444724
See, that would be a pretty shitty way to live your life in our reality. But in the post-acopalypse? Makes you think.
Shame they weren't able to actually implement all of this.
>>343449707
The YUP Readme knows
>>343449379
>What if I have a farm, but it's in NCR land? Yeah, giving myself up to the Legion would be a good idea.
Pledge to provide resources and rest to the Legion troops once they come to liberate you from your current dictator.
>Actually different anon.
Not him, but it's a fair point, if someone posts something stupid as
>all men are slaves if they bow to authority
Then they should expect to be called out on their stupidity.
>>343449609
Unarmed, high strength and endurance, below average intelligence. Get addicted to a type of drug early on (Psycho would be my recommendation) and never cure it. Go independent. Don't use any female party members. And if you can get a mod that lets you use Molotov's and fireballs cool. Besides that I don't know.
>>343443725
yeah, tell them to throw it in the trash and pick up a REAL fallout game like fallout 4 (now on sale)
>>343449690
>This is why I compared it to the Ottoman and Seljuk turks. It's the same peoples.
No it's not, those are not the people that lived in Anatolia when the Ottoman Empire conquered Anatolia.
>>343449906
>>343449609
Oh and when I say unarmed that means no unarmed weapons either (Except maybe fist wraps)
>backlog is piling up of games from summer sale
>can't stop playing new vegas
Help
>>343442113
>When it does fall, the remnants of the Legion will lead the wasteland into a better future.
lolno. When the Legion falls, they'll go right back to being the raping, murdering savages they used to be because they followed Caesar, not his ideals.
>>343449804
So it does and the answer is yes. Thanks fampai.
>>343449998
This reminds me how much I hate fist based weapons being counted as "unarmed" in games, fuck's sake, they are melee weapons. Actual unarmed is martial arts and shit.
>>343449865
>Then they should expect to be called out on their stupidity.
You're right because it's fucking dumb. Slavery isn't the same as being a law-abiding citizen™.
>Pledge to provide resources and rest to the Legion troops once they come to liberate you from your current dictator.
Yeah, last thing I'll say here is that I don't think it'll be that easy at all.
>>343450060
Why help when I envy you
>>343450164
Well fist based weapons would be better used by someone experienced in unarmed combat, so it makes sense.
>>343449964
If they were't then they sure are now because they identify as Turkish, are Turkish and speak Turkish. Fucking hell.
>>343450182
>Yeah, last thing I'll say here is that I don't think it'll be that easy at all.
You're being unreasonable. Why do you think the Legion would go full retard when you're offering them a benefit. They are not Bethesda villains.
>>343445116
Anon, you have to remember something. Similar to how you never see what ordinary life under Legion control is like, you never see what it's like back in the NCR either. We have a pretty good idea thanks to Fallout 2, but we don't know what it's like as of the 2280s.
What you see of the NCR in the Mojave isn't indicative of what life is like back in the Republic. In the Mojave, they're running a multifaceted military campaign while simultaneously trying to put down roots in mostly unsettled territory.
Back in California? It's the closest thing to pre-war life that you're ever going to find in the wasteland. It has all the flaws of a large, bureaucratic democracy, sure, but it's a damn sight better than life under the Legion.
Boy, Nevada sure is hot, pardners! Say, why don't we cool off by playing Fallout 4™? I've heard it's 50% off on the Steam Summer Sale™! That's a mighty fine bargain rite derr, if I say so myself!
>>343449865
>all men are slaves if they bow to authority
And here we come to the heart of your memespouting maze of misinterpretation. Can you say where that was implied in the original post? No? Because it's not there? How odd.
Everyone in the Legion is a slave. If you're born into it, you get assigned a role at birth based on your gender. If you're male, you will be a soldier. If you're female, you will be a breeder and housekeeper. There is no choice in the matter. Being raised into the ideology and dogma does not change the lack of freedom you have as part of the Legion. You either fulfil your role or suffer the consequences. You belong to Caesar.
That's slavery.
>>343450439
Fuck off Todd, your game is shit.
The more I use the Marksman's Rifle the more I love it, even firing in quick succession its still accurate and unlike .308 weapons it can still be useful in close range.
>>343450312
I didn't say that the modern culture isn't Turkish, I said the ethnic identity was not Turkish, although it is close to being Turkish today, however you have plenty of areas which have other ethnicities there.
Hardly matters anyway, I don't think this problem will ever be fixed anyway.
>>343450526
Yeah I agree, I doubt the legion's territory can be a peaceful utopia like described. It seems too off. Orderly is one thing, but repressed and owing their life at all times to the state is something that seems to fit the Legion's bill more than any other. They waste lives away like nothing, if they're ever short on manpower I guarantee those cunting farmboys from their mainlands will be forcefully drafted into the line of fire.
>>343450526
>Everyone in the Legion is a slave. If you're born into it, you get assigned a role at birth based on your gender. If you're male, you will be a soldier. If you're female, you will be a breeder and housekeeper. There is no choice in the matter. Being raised into the ideology and dogma does not change the lack of freedom you have as part of the Legion. You either fulfil your role or suffer the consequences.
Same for the NCR senpai, except women can work desk jobs and be shit at them.
>>343449637
Oh, well fuck. I already have about 120ish mods on
>>343449906
>>343449998
That might sound fun. Maybe I'll reinstall spice of life for a poncho too. Thanks anon
>install NMC small size texture pack
>still get black textures due to lack of memory
fuck this engine
>>343450936
>I guarantee those cunting farmboys from their mainlands will be forcefully drafted into the line of fire.
>not being proud to serve Caesar
>not being proud to contribute to the greater good
>being a weak beta cuck who just wants to be a lazy degenerate
Your life amounts to nothing.
>>343450751
it's the most versatile weapon in the game. the only other gun you need is an AMR to soften up deathclaws before they get close, and you're ready for anything.
>>343451359
Black textures are typically a archive invalidation issue, not memory.
>>343443901
>why is forcing people to live a life of suffering bad
This is beyond edgy.
>>343451359
You're using the 4gb loader like you should be, right?
>>343450060
>Bought Fallout 1
>scared to start it because I feel like I might not be prepared for it
>>343451342
No problemo... I would recommend built to destroy as a trait since you won't be using weapons anyway.
>Obsidian remakes Fallout: New Vegas on the current engine used for Fallout 4
>it has all the missing content, and even greater variation in builds
>a larger open world with deeper Legion territory and questing, more caves and quests
>more craftables, more customization and roleplaying variety
>release date:liru_meme.jpg
>>343451476
The following CTD is definitely memory and none of it happens with anything else. Just after adding NMC textures. I have invalidated + do it manually every time I make changes.
>>343451521
Of course.
>>343451248
Well if it works it works. If thing get fucked up try going with MO though. The way the program is structured is specifically designed to keep mods from fucking each other up, particularly when uninstalling mods.
>>343451485
>forcing people to live a life of suffering
Then starve in the wilderness, enjoy.
>>343451569
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe I'll take heavy handed or kamikaze along with it too.
>>343451701
>it's either slavery or dying to fucking wildlife
get out
>>343451701
Everyone the Legion enslaved in Arizona was part of a tribe that knew how to live off the land just fine
It's just trading inter-tribal brutality with Legion brutality. Which would be a relatively fair trade if the Legion hadn't gotten more and more brutal as it got larger
>>343451473
I haven't tried to fight any Deathclaws with it, but I imagine I won't need to switch out once I get the All-American. Build's naturally high luck with Finesse and Better Criticals should deal with Deathclaws in a 1v1 encounter
>>343451805
That's not an argument. If you had to choose, I'd think you'd pick slavery. Also why do you assume it's suffering, you probably wouldn't get punished if you just do your job diligently and without being a loud faggot.
>>343451530
Anon.
Get fallout fixit. Pick any build. Make a character with decent INT/AGL. Get Ian from Shady Sands asap. Have fun.
It's really not hard to get into, and once you start you'll want to keep playing.
tl;dr
JUST DO IT
>>343451886
>Which would be a relatively fair trade if the Legion hadn't gotten more and more brutal as it got larger
Source?
>>343452001
Are unarmed builds any good?
>>343452102
Great in 2, you need to put some work to make it good in 1 and you'll be pretty bad during mid game. Late game unarmed is pretty OP actually, just shove your thumbs into enemy eye-sockets.
Even if you like the "current" state of the Legion, it suffers heavily from vulnerability to the "Bad Emperor Problem".
>>343452015
Sawyer
The Legion started out with Edward Sallow pushing one tribe to completely exterminate or enslave five others. Not exactly a situation conductive to fostering mercy.
>>343452102
I fucked up my unarmed build with 1 INT, and my character was unwinnable, because I couldn't do any side quests to level up, dogmeat died, and I couldn't sneak/science around the military base. I'd punch a mutant for 40 DAM, I'd get rekt by his minigun for an instant kill.
It's super fun in Fallout 2 though.
I'd probably go for small guns/medicine build if I were you.
>>343439741
NCR is the closest proxy to the United States government in both ideals and structure.
So I go with NCR, every time.
Because I am not a god damn communist traitor who follows the first demigod to arise in the shithole of an existence that is living in a post apocalyptic future. I follow freedom, I follow democracy, I follow the lessons of the past and the glory of our future. We will rise as the pheonix, a new wave of justice and liberty, strengthened by our trials and wizened by our age.
Sic semper tyrannis.
We shall not go quietly into the night.
>>343452197
Nice, thanks for the recommendation anon. I'll check out fixit and start the game in a bit
>>343451928
Do you know what slavery even is? It's not work hard, get paid. It's work as hard as your master asks you to. You're an object. Have you even seen how slaves are treated in the legion? Not seen as human, not allowed to talk, only work work work and get assraped.
>>343443015
It's a raider and slave based economy that exports raw resources for the most part but nothing else since they have to use most of it for what appears to be never ending warfare.
>>343444139
Not really, both max at 30 fps on the systems so if you have a toaster it's a better alternative.
>>343452432
Just got a tendonitis from tipping my fedora too fast.
Roight lads I'm gonna run the game with/without NMC with that skyrim performance monitor running.
Hopefully it can give some insight into the vram usage
>>343452692
I think you mean saluting the greatest nation to ever exist on this earth.
You fucking commy.
Is my shotgun build going to survive Lonesome Road with just the fully modded Hunting Shotgun?
>>343452379
Literally says nothing about escalation of violence, simply maintenance of violence.
>>343452846
If you have that hilariously broken knockdown perk, yeah.
>>343452686
Yes really. PC version gets to fix all the fucking bugs, has mods to lower the load if you're running a serious toaster, wont stop you from playing because the save filed bloated and even if it did, there's a mod to fix that too
>>343452379
Wait do people not like OWB? Personally it was my favorite.
>>343452564
You missed the part where they feed and water you. Not saying it's an arrangement you should be happy with, but survival is better than dying, so depending on who you were, slavery under the legion could be a step up from your previous station in life. And if you have useful skills and are willing, you'd not be a slave, but a soldier.
>>343452931
Got all the shotgun related perks
>>343453030
I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I don't think I'll like retro super science theater too much.
>>343452692
As long as you realize you're the one with the fedora.
>>343453192
Maybe it's just that I do like the scifi, but it also has the Stealth Suit MKII which is super usful for my usually stealthy builds.
>>343453104
Then I'd only lose from going from the Legion to the NCR. In the NCR, I have at least social mobility, which is a massive step up from being repressed by retards who fuck boys in secret.
>>343453104
>but a soldier
In the Legion that's even worse than being used as a packmule
>Take this machete, maybe this shitty rifle if you're lucky, go run at the enemy
>If you get injured, better hope healing powder will fix it
>If you disobey orders, you'll be punished, maybe crucified
>If you live but don't defeat the enemy you'll be punished for cowardice
>If you live and are victorious you get to keep doing this until your luck inevitably runs out
>Your only retirement plan is death, enjoy the next ten years, maybe
>>343453030
I hated OWB the one time I played through it. The atmosphere was goofy and borderlands-sequel, unlike vanilla NV which is dead serious. The respawning enemies were annoying, and they were all enormous bullet sponges. And OWB is so much harder than it needs to be if your built sucks at mellee and energy weapons, like mine did. And to top it all off, the story is barely tied to the rest of the Fallout universe.
>>343453425
>"Here allow me to get you high off your ass on med-x to the point where you are either addicted or have none left"
Despite this I still loved that suit, must have been it's voice actor.
>>343453514
>OWB isn't serious
Well it's nice to know you didn't pay the slightest bit of attention to anything but PENIS TOES
>>343444604
>343443882
>>343445116
>>343450382
i thought the point of the legion was making a new society were people didn't rely on old war tech and could rebuilt in this new hostile environment being able to survive on their own. since all other factions depend completely on old war tech and the NCR dont even understand this tech so much as they just use it like the imperium in war hammer 40k and they are actively at war with the last people who actually understand how the important shit works on the west coast save for house.
>>343453560
I named her Susan
>>343453619
That's exactly the kind of shit that pissed me off. Penistoes, the talking stealth suit, the sex-obsessed female computer, and all the other forced attempts at humor were all cringey as fuck.
>>343453465
I don't normally side with the Legion, or like them all that much but Caesar has some good points. Points Arcade would even agree with, like not being reliant on Old World technology. Like stimpaks, they're a finite resource they'll run out eventually so by using something like Healing Powders its less effective but he's making everyone more self sufficient because these can be reproduced easily.
>>343452564
in the ending Acrade shit talks Caesar but Caesar actually respects him as an intellectual equal so he treats him ok, until arcade disembowels himself.
>>343453861
You can make more stimpaks though. And it's not like this technology will be lost forever. Meanwhile the Legion represses it.
>>343454037
Caesar's smart but not as smart as he thinks he is. He likes to look at everyone as inferior. Arcade never liked Caesar, never respected him and only went so far with intellectual talks before he had enough and yeah, disembowels himself.
Gotta say, I fucking love how the writers wrote all these characters. They're so dimensional. God I'm such a faggot.
>>343453514
I don't know what you mean with "bullet sponges", enemies in Big Mt die just as easily as those in the Mojave.
>>343454037
That's because Arcade provides him a service no one else in the Legion can, as a doctor and as well educated intellectual
Caesar is nothing if not hypocritical. Like the Auto Doc sitting in his tent
>>343453465
>go run at the enemy
There is mention of Legion squads being fairly coordinated and even getting the drop on NCR on occasion, so you're wrong again.
>>343454240
Well I will admit that I normally use the YCS/186, so things just all die immediately.
>>343446312
Good, buzzcut is objectively the best hairstyle
>>343453847
>not liking the cute talking suit
>>343454389
Well yeah not everyone's a fucking suicide squad. But as a grunt you're mostly useless, given a shitty machete and running at machine guns.
>>343454389
>on occasion
Oh boy, "on occasion". I'm sure that's useful when they're engaged in a pitched battle where the enemy knows they're coming and has a proper defence.
Or it's not because the Legion uses the old Roman tactic of sending in disposable Recruits first, their more experience soldiers second and the veterans third, so anything that isn't raiders raiding patrols in the desert is likely to turn into a bloodbath
>>343453465
beta nu-male detected. what's the point of living if there is no great challenge to overcome? would you rather lounge around in a musky NCR barracks smoking cigarettes and cleaning your rifle, or would you rather be outside, living off the land, slaying wild beasts and becoming a warrior? actually i don't know why i asked, you would rather do the first thing.
can a mac handle fallout 1?
>>343454389
>the average legion squad is said to be coordinated and fearsome
>in reality its just some guys with sharp sticks and maybe one guy with a rifle
>the Legions elite hit squads employ only a "YOLO" zerg rush at you
>>343454812
Which more accurately describes being independent than legion cannon fodder
>>343454896
That's all the enemy AI in New Vegas, same can be said for the NCR troopers and Rangers, all they do is shoot you till you die.
>>343454812
>implying you wouldn't be some cocksock for a higher up in the legion then die in your first battle
>>343455025
because they have guns, and like two guys in the Legion have guns
>letting legion or NCR take New Vegas
>not taking it for yourself and mowing down degenerates with your modified securitrons
>>343454992
just look at the Legion patrols in the Searchlight part of the map. they sleep around campfires, wake up every morning and go hunting for NCR troopers. if you follow them around they get into fights with all kinds of different creatures. i'd rather be doing that than walking around at the Outpost, or waiting for supplies that will never come at Forlorn Hope.
>>343439741
Started playing this on my Xbox One (so no mods)
two questions
how do I get to Vegas
What's the best way to get past Death Claws the earlies possible? Bloody hate those shitters.
>>343455342
You can say that about the NCR patrols around Searchlight.
Oh, and enjoy getting sucidal orders from your higher ups. Reminder that there's one Legion dude inside the fire station that died from the irradiation havng fired off the radiation bomb.
>>343455292
Haha way 2 go my fellow anarchy brother XD
>>343455125
>the legion's greatest champion is some putz with a sword
>even the lowest NCR trooper has a better weapon
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50040/?
>All regular legionnaires speed is set to 130% (this is actually the vanilla value, believe it or not)
Too bad the AI is still atrocious because they're actually able to run you down and chop you up at that speed
>>343454238
its actually a reference to a roman citizen who tried to kill himself by falling on his sword to protest Caesar taking controll of rome, he failed and his family tried to get a doctor to come stich him up but instead he ripped out his own intestines through his wound to kill himself.
The only problem I have with the independent route it one pulse grenade means your army is basically fucked.
>>343455472
>either just go through Nipton, then Novac then just keep following the road north or use a stealthboy and go through sloan
>use joe cobbs stealth boy and sneak by them
>>343455541
i would be a smart legionnaire, if i see a truck filled with barrels and i've been ordered to open it i would know what's about to go down. i would build a time bomb, put it in between the barrels, and run like hell. because i've been around, and i've seen radioactive barrels before.
>>343455580
Lanius uses a sword out of pride.
Many legionaries have better guns than your average Trooper.
Those high-level legion assassins, man.
>>343455771
But in reality you'd be no better than the average tribal in new sports gear willing letting the bomb go off in your face.
>>343455603
i thought legionaries beging inferior to rangers was a stupid choice, since legion soldiers are basically raised to be rape and murder machines, its pretty lame how they made it that even the regular NCR troopers far out class them or how a women ranger killed several legion officers with her bare hands in the arena.
>>343455580
Lanius is 7 feet tall, runs faster than anything else in the game and has just shy of 1000 health
He's basically the player character of Fallout: Arizona
>>343455580
>Plently of Legion soldiers use guns but have training in unarmed and melee combat
>Joshua Graham is a gunslinger
LOL ROCKS, A SPEAR AND FOOTBALL GEAR
Playing this game for the first tike, which faction? Alredy gave the finger to Caesar o it's not really an option. Is Mr. House route any fun? Independent seems kek worthy
>>343455771
legionaries are literally tribals with less them medivial level understanding of tech and medicine i doubt that the grunts even know what radiation is.
>>343455771
>implying you'd have the knowledge to rig up a time bomb or even know what those barrels are because of legion suppressing your learning
You'd be a disposable grunt, the legion wouldn't need you to learn so you wouldn't learn.
>>343455972
The Malpais Legate was always a one off
>Lanius' armor seemed inappropriate for Graham. Though it's unlikely that Joshua would have worn the same clothes then that he does when you meet him in Honest Hearts, there weren't a lot of other appropriate clothes for him and his outfit does make him stand out as particularly unusual - which, even among the Legion, he was.
>>343456015
independent is basically the route where you fuck everything up
>>343440273
> We will never have a remake of FNV, with the legion content that never made it to the release
It was great, but it could have been so much...
>>343455931
i doubt it. vulpes probably selected those guys specifically because of their stupidity. if you talk to Aurelius about Searchlight he acts as if everyone knows what happened. those two fuckers were probably lazy, dumb, and ineffective in combat. so they got rid of them.
>>343455472
You can get there easily from the beginning. I drew a map here, starting position is Goodsprings Cemetery. So essentially, follow that shit. You can defeat the Cazadores with starting everything or just try and outrun them. Just use terrain and guns and maximize damage by shooting head.
Once you bypass the Cazadores, fucking leg it to New Vegas.
>>343455771
If I was in his shoes I'd have no idea how to rig a bomb.
>>343456285
If they were that inept they wouldn't have been able to sneak unseen into what was an NCR military base
>>343443725
>tfw cant use the 4gb patch because i only have a max of 4gb on my computer
>>343455972
YEAH SPEARS AND FOOTBALL GEAR BECAUSE THATS WHAT THEY USE.
Graham was a mormon from before the legion's founding. So he has skills and knowledge from before the legion keeping everyone as brahmin humping tribals
>>343444257
lel
>>343456285
they were good enough to sneak into the middle of a fucking NCR foward operating base.
>>343456404
read the note on their bodies, vulpes scouted the area to see what time the NCR patrols left a gap to sneak through. he told them exactly what they needed to do.
>>343456285
They were smart enough to sneak into the base and moreover, just being stupid doesn't mean you can't do anything else and contribute to society. Dying just because you're not as smart as everyone else is a horrible precedent for society and I'd never want to live in that kind of community.
>>343455472
Iv you explore the valley near goodsprings, primm, and the hidden valley bunker, you'll find a number of Powder ganger camps that are well stocked with powder charges. You can easily pick up a dozen of them if you have an explosives skill of 25+. Then find the old railway station near primm and climb over the hill. There's an area called primm pass guarded by a deathclaw, that you can simply lay a trap for with the powder charges and send him flying.
>>343456568
Even with that knowledge, subtlety and stealthiness is not something taught to Recruits
If he wanted to make sure the job was done right on the first go, he'd have to pick soldiers he knew were halfway competent, otherwise they'd fuck up and NCR would probably investigate the fucking toxic waste sitting in the middle of town
>>343456701
but when your society consists entirely of military then you have to be smart, or you will get your squadmates wounded or killed eventually. the challenge of being an alert, intelligent and strong person is what makes the Legion so appealing. the dream of one day becoming a Centurion, the strongest warriors in the wasteland.
>>343455472
just go through sloan and hug the cliffs on the right side
no fighting or stealth boy needed
>>343456568
that doesnt mean its easy, and legion training is suppose to be as physically rgiorous as NCR ranger training( which is not reflected well in game at at all) so i doubt any legion soldiers who make to adult hood are that incompetant considering they are in an army that follow roman models and in the roman army falling asleep on watch and such shenanigans got you put on a cross or beaten to death with clubs.
>>343456891
all they had to do was walk right into the fire station, the door can be seen from the edge of town.
>>343454610
>mole rat a mile away
>You are not addicted to Med-X
>>343457023
And the Strip is only 6 buildings long
>>343457016
warfare is their training, the only way to climb the ladder is to win battles. recruits fresh out of cottonwood cove have probably never fought anything bigger than a gecko.
