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ZTD Zero Time Dilemma


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Spoiler your shit
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>>343387041
Who got the best ending in ZTD
Who got the worst?
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what was gab's mother like
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>>343387119
>Who got the worst?
The fans
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>>343387136
a bitch
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>>343386621
Well since I'm on mobile:

Near the vote section of the flow, there should be a and three . These should all be lighted up in order to unlock all fragments.
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>>343387136
D E E P E S T L O R E
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Tfw I made note of and recorded every single x-pass thinking it would lead to some huge event or clue

I was slightly disappointed
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>>343387280
Well I tried to see if emojis work on 4chan but that was retarded.

Just light up all skulls near the vote section.
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>>343387142
If the ending was achieved without smug zero would it have been better or worse?
I feel like if SHIFT was a way to bypass Zero's scheme, like if Zero intended to have six choose to die, than Shifting would allow them all to win.
But instead we got extisential crisis shit and Zero being a smug shit
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For all those who wonder where Kyle is

He's the consciousness inside Q.
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what ever happened with the whole delta wanting akane to come to a free the soul meeting thing? did she really just tell him to fuck off and they left it at that?
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>>343387136
>Gab is Chris

Damn, Uchi did it again.
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>>343387405
Where is Snek? WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY PROMISED BABES IN SWIMSUITS?
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>>343387405
Kyle isn't Delta, baka.

>>343387432
Nothing. She may have went and she may not have went but it's more likely that she didn't.
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just fucking kill me
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>>343387405
You are completly correct Sigma, I'm both your real and robot son
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>>343387432
There's a file that tells you she went to the meeting and was never the same after that.

At least I think I read it in a file. I can't remember. Maybe I know through the memegenetic field. :^)
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>>343387515
In the next game, zero money left

>>343387515
And why not? He is essential in stopping the virus, after all.
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>>343387561
idiot
* is not +
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>>343387561
Why would a star, with five points, be 2?
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>>343387561
>3*3*3 is nine

shiggy
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Is it bad i now consider Carlos my husbando?
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>>343387041
>press the button
>the whole fucking place explodes
what exactly was the point of that?
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>>343387575
K was a clone
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>>343387432
At that meeting, Delta reveals Akane the whole Blick Winkel thing, and that the six billions deaths, the pandemic and all are made just to catch Blick's attention in this universe, in order to use his powers to save all eight gorillions.

After that meeting Akane goes full soulless and makes the AB game in order to finally catch the undivided attention of Blick, AKA: our earth's readers/players. (Us)
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>>343387432
She clearly went, as seen in VLR's ending.
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>>343387693
He told you not to!
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>>343387668
> I did that same thing at first

Had to slap myself in the head when i figured out my mistake
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>>343387561
>3x3=6
>3x3x3=9
>4+3=10
>4+6=12
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Just curious, is there anyone with all the quest files filled in? I'm missing one.
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>>343387119
Q happy end >>>>>> D2 > C1 > Q2 > D1 > Q1> CQD1

not including true end because it's both the best and worst
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>>343387790
Yes, here.
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>>343387650
It's the only sign that loses to the moon on the board game thing
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>>343387685
Fuck off, he's mine.
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>>343387136
where was this?
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>>343387815
Shit, thanks.
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>>343387685
Yeah, he's a siscon.

Siggy is LITERALLY perfect though, why aren't you gaying over him?

>Considerate as fuck
>Smart as fuck
>Buff as fuck
>Tall as fuck
>Likes Dogs

Why is he so perfect?
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>>343387819
The board doesn't even spawn the moon, the fuck you are smoking
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>>343387819
uhhm no?
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>>343387363

I did too[SPOILER], it was especially annoying when you try to use them as C-Team after having SHIFT'd and get penalized. Kinda like Uchikoshi knew people would do this and made an in-game explanation for why you wouldn't be able to.[/SPOILER]
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>>343387856
What? Tell me what files are above and below, and I will tell you from what room it is.
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>>343387857
>Hey Gab, you like that biscuit?
>It's the last one.

Keked hard at that scene.
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>>343387857
>likes dogs
>When they had this stupid shit in VLR where he was blessed by a cat to speak cat puns the rest of his life

sad this didn't come up again in ZTD
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>buy the game on steam
>press new game
>game crashes
Well I didn't want to play anyway help
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>>343387986
It did once, briefly.
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>>343387685
He's probably gay. So there's nothing wrong with the purest form of love.
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When does Carlos get kidnapped?
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>>343388027
uuhm the same time as everyone else?
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>>343387986
He was cursed, not blessed. And I'm pretty sure he mentions NOT liking cats in VLR.
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>>343387986
It did, in the showers room, when you investigate a locker, he says that he would like a cat meow, it would be purrfect to calm his nyerves, and then he tells that he has a litter tic.
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>>343388027
What do you mean kidnapped?
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>>343388021
>gay
>Clearly lusts after his sister

unless that sister is a trap, in which case i'm all for the doujins to follow
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>>343387998
works for me :^)
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>>343387041
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>>343388073
Should have clarified, I meant when he gets kidnapped by Q about a portrait or something. I think this is where I'm stuck as I don't think I have seen this scene
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>>343387998
SHIFT
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>>343387710
what
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>>343388205
>responding to literal headcanon
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Who's the most ABSOLUTE MADMAN character in this game? And why is it Carlos?
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>>343388115
He is pure. He is gay just so that he could never see his sister as attractive.
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Alright guys, quick question.

Does Junpei get better? He's been my favorite character in Zero Escape, but even I'm getting sick of his shit. I get it, he's fucking upset about a lot of things, but he's just kinda being a dick for the sake of being a dick
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Does anyone have a screenshot of the dolls that represent each character? I think they show up in the Study and somewhere else.
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sleep with me
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>AB game was merciless as fuck compared to Akane's Nonary game
>Expect Old Sigma to be a cold ass motherfucker because of this
>He's a big softie that cares way too much about complete strangers

How the fuck did Akane convince him to go through with the AB game?
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>>343388258
i didn't think it was serious, i just said "what" because it made no sense
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>>343387857
>bothering to even pick between Carlos and Siggy
>not wanting to cum inside both of them
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>>343388186
ok thanks what
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>>343388331
no thanks, slut
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>>343388294
Whattdya talkin about man? He's still classic Junpei.
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>>343388297
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>>343388294
He pulls out some nice stunts, especially the swiss cheese one. He is a bit of an asshole, but there is still some ol' Jumpy inside him
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>>343388348
Akane not being a calculating sociopath and Junpei being emo for all the wrong reasons was a real disappointment.

Carlos was the best tho
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>>343388294
He does. Slowly. Very slowly.

Then there's a douchebaggery spike, and then he goes back to not being annoying again
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>>343388413
Thanks, friend.
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>>343388348
the AB game is the easiest way to train shifters
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>>343387693
I JUST FUCKING GOT TO THAT PART
WHAT THE FUCK IT'S NOT EVEN RED
ONLY RED IS SUPPOSED TO BE DANGEROUS THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT
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>>343388413
Wait. How does he know who Akane is?
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>>343388331
U S E D G O O D S
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>>343388467
Because he was in the jail cell at the start of the game along with everybody else.
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>>343388413

I just realized...

Delta isn't in this collage and they don't even say how it's strange.
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>>343388465
it was the nut button
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>>343388467
I'm pretty sure in that part Mira/Eric says "this doll is probably Akane" and Sean says"wow Akane (this doll) is cute!".
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>>343388445
>>343388430
>>343388412
Like I said, I get it, saves a chicks life, gets no pussy, has to relive the horrors of the original game every night, his job as a detective makes him even worse, but that doesn't mean you have to start being a dick to EVERYONE for no goddamn reason. Akane, yeah I get it, be a dick to her, she probably deserves that, but come on.

I want to be an asshole, especially with whats happened, but he's just too much right now. I hope he gets better
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>>343388579
I HAPPEN TO BE AN EXPERT ON MASTURBATION AND I CAN ASSURE YOU I DO NOT DIE EVERY DAY
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>>343388464
I still don't see this Sigma agreeing to kidnapping Clover, Alice and (technically) Quark, and infecting everyone with Radical-6 knowing they will succumb to it in most timelines. Gets worse when he confesses to Dianna that he has no idea how shifting works so his AB game was a loose canon that could or could not have worked since he doesn't know how Shifting works.
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>>343388439
>Akane shown ruthless and calculating in 999 and VLR
>Suddenly reserved girl that goes crazy at thought of anyone dying/killing
>Junpei optimistic hero in 999 and aged but still relatively optimistic old man in VLR
>Emo faggot in ZTD
Their ending is literally lol they became their old school days self, Akane is a good girl and Junpei's a sweet softie again

That ending was a real slap in the face
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>>343388690
That was Venom Junpei though.
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>>343388690
Do I really have to explain this?

Akane is a sweet, innocent girl when kidnapped for the first nonary game, she's still sweet after. Carlos being a complete retard with TEN MONTHS breaks her and she realizes everyone is useless except her. At this point she becomes cold and calculating. She shifts back to set up the events of 999, this is the Akane you know from 999. She shifts back to set up VLR.
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>>343388467
Because he is her great uncle.
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>>343388690
in 999 she set up the game so everyone could live though.
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>>343388879
Okay, where does that come from?
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>>343388846
Except after Carlos fucked up Akane said she already had plans in place in case this failed. She also had her little organization to stop Free the soul
Akane has always been calculating
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>>343388687
He knows what triggers it, not the science to why they can do it.
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>>343388982
>in 999 she set up the game so everyone could live though.
after dying a couple of times first
also original 9th man
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>>343388846
From 1904 Phi being her grandmother obviously. Duh.
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>>343388982
She set up the game so that four people were killed in cruel ways.
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>WHAT THE FUCK CARLOS, YOU DID NOTHING FOR TEN MONTHS INSTEAD OF STOPPING ZERO?
>His face
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What if I played 999 and only read story synopsis for VLR on wiki? Will I understand what ZTD is about? Sorry if you get asked this a lot
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>>343387432
She ends up going, you see her wearing the outfit in the VLR ending
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Anyone else feeling kind of down after finishing it? The majority of it was a fun ride but the final act has left me feeling pretty cold. Maybe my expectations were too high.
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>>343389126
I guess she is cruel to the ones that fuck with her or her Jumpy. He turns Carlos in mushy face with a fucking extinguisher when he kills Jumpei in the AB game, and staright up cuts his arm when she suspects Carlos for Jumpy frozen head.
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>>343389141
>I told you I'd save you!
>WHAT THE FUCK 6 MILLION ARE DEAD WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THIS?
>But then I wouldn't have met you guys?
>when just earlier akane explained that time paradoxes don't exist because of shifting

Carlos a dumb
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>>343389374
you should expect zero escape: 4infinity

like me
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Well that was anticlimactic
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>>343389374
Even though the ending was just like VLR and 999 where everything went as Zero planned, it feels bittersweet since zero was such a smug asshole about it would have preferred him not to appear in the end and explain why he won and all the other 9 are slobbering retards
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>>343389084
Meant to quote >>343389020.

So basically, Phi looking a lot like Santa was a red herring, right?

... Or was it? Think about it. How did Delta know about Akane's parents? Not even she knew her mother had killed herself. Second, why does he care? I'm sure the snail fucked shit up everywhere because of the butterfly effect. Also, Phi being Santa's daughter was a popular theory back then, but now that we know who her parents that theory is debunked. However, there's now an old Phi roaming around that could still be related to Santa by being her grandmother, so, I'm going with that.

Also, Akane's eyes are purple just like Delta's... without the freakish surrounding black coklor. We also now know SHIFT powers are hereditary and the Kurashikis AND the Klims are the most powerful around as far we know. Just tying the knots.
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>>343389141
They were fucking ungrateful apes
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Post

>Yfw Ucho sneaks a patch in that unlocks a secret end

Yes I am on the denial stage.
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MGSV all over again
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>>343389687
I'm okay with this being the definitive end.
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>>343389534
>18 hours
I remember when Karen said ZTD was around 40 hours long.
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>>343389141
He didn't shift, he transported to save them.

>>343389082
9th man died due to violating the rules, all the others died cause of Ace.

>>343389374
Hated how the game just basically set up for a next one. Also hated the way the game progressed with fragments in the beginning, it made more sense later on in the game though.
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>>343389784
she's from the timeline where it is 40 hours long
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>>343389784

18 is really fast, I finished in 23. Of course, that's still nowhere near 40.
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So I'm at the part where you watch Diana slowly lose her mind trapped with Sigma. Did not expect her to have been a battered wife that pretty fucked.

This is legit the most depressing thing I've seen in the game so far holy shit.
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>>343389835

I want to go to the timeline where Uchikoshi didn't need to invent an alien machine to explain his plot and didn't retcon the shit out of Kyle and ?.

Brb putting myself into mortal danger to shift.
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Need help. Locker room, Got hose and cap. Not sure how to connect hose to music box or how to unscrew showerhead.
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I still absolutely cannot believe that not only was Snake not zero, he wasn't even fucking involved in any capacity so all of that setup in vlr was literally for nothing. Not only that, but clover and alice didn't show up at all either. Was seven's story about ice-9 in 999 SERIOUSLY just a red herring, what the fuck.
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>>343389717
Its fucking cover looks almost exactly like MGS5's. That's when your brain should have fucking rang the bells to tell you to fuck away from this game
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>>343389831
Yeah, he transported 10 months before the game started so that it would recharge for being used again by his other self.

He literally dicked around for 10 months, and on new years eve he bombed down the X door.
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>>343389906
Open drain, turn on locker lights. Look around then
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>>343389937
> Parody cover
Anon....
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>>343389784
I asked her on twitter to clarify and how long it was compared to VLR, and she said it was roughly the same.
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>>343383273
this thread died a long time ago but i thought this idea was really hilarious. i'm kinda drunk and it's 2:30am but i tried doodling this lmao
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>>343389937
You are a fucking idiot
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>>343389921

>Was seven's story about ice-9 in 999 SERIOUSLY just a red herring

Yes. We knew this before VLR even came out, though. Read the 999 questions/answers here: http://www.aksysgames.com/999/answers
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>it's a back to the future parody episode

I'm glad Ushi's wild ride is finally over
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>>343389921
There was build-up for Snake in VLR?
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Was anyone else inspired to make their own VN after playing these?

I was, working on it
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>>343389784
>>343389379
He saved 2 billion people in that timeline if mindhacks the hedgehog is to be believed. Dumb bitch Akane just didn't fully grasp how COMPLEX the situation really was.
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Carlos is THE bro of all bros
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Which voice is better, english or japanese?
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>>343390257
He's also the stupidest man alive.
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>>343390257
I want to marry him
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>>343387693
It was a trap. Why else do you think the timer takes over a minute and sigma pushes you like crazy
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>>343389853
Get ready for feels.
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>>343389187
does that mean she joined free the soul after going to the meeting? his invitation was in the apocalypse ending, right? so it would have lined up with vlr. so basically she fucked everyone over and became a cultist? but i thought she was good in vlr? (i also haven't played in about a year and was retarded and didn't refresh myself before ztd)
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>>343389541
Hate how Akane couldn't just access the Morphogenic Field and see the outcome of everything.

>>343389628
Because Left was one of the people that died from the entire incident. Akane's Dad was gonna be the original person to die in the Taxi, but instead it was the surgeon because her dad got arrested that day.

>>343389836
Did you watch all the dialogue? I skipped most of it since I can read faster then they can talk.

>>343389853
best ending

>>343389897
Kyle's only purpose was for VLR, he was there to show the relationship between Akane, Sigma, and Luna. He's just a clone. Don't know why so many people think he was really important when it was stated he's just a clone to continue the research for the AB game in case Sigma dies.
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Quick /v/, you have fifteen seconds to post your favourite Carlos Meme Momentâ„¢

HARDMODE: No TEN MONTHS
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>>343388297
Hes a bit more jaded but he gets better overall
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>>343390447
Super saiyan Carloss vs Evil Naruto robot
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>>343389717
>Steam version didn't come with "Playing with Gab" pet simulation minigame
Fuck this gay earth. I'm gonna press a blue button
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>>343390417
In VLR Akane says Kyle is needed to stop the radical 6 outbreak in the mars test site
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>>343388687
He knows why but not how
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>>343388537

That's because it was an asspull. I liked ZTD a lot and overall enjoyed it. But the "Delta was there all along just off screen" shit was trite and bullshit. There's like what, 2 hints to him being there throughout the entire game? That's enough to consider it was an afterthought. It's like Uchikoshi read Sharin no Kuni and decided to try and shove it into his game, except somehow worse.

And I mean, what the fuck happened in literally every other instance where someone from Q team leaves? They just leave him there? Why did Eric not think for even a moment that Delta could have been Mira's killer. Just cause the nigga is deaf and paralyzed (or so he thought) doesn't mean that he can't choke the bitch. Why does the X-pass board only show 9 slots if there are 10 people there? The game would have been so much better if he had just stayed off-screen and Uchikoshi didn't feel the need to have Zero be a participant like in 999 and VLR
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Got stuck for forever because I ended up getting Q's reveal about being Sean before getting Q team's death. Is that supposed to happen?
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>>343390447
Rape Akane
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Reposting here since vg general seems to be dead.

I fucking hate to be here but I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out the Biolab puzzle on Q path. Can someone give me a gentle fucking nudge in the right direction before I lose my mind?

I have the centrifuge cover saying Orange Blue White but that's it. I can't figure out if that's supposed to be enough to work out the colour coded lock. I cannot find a power cord for that analyser, I cannot find a lens for that microscope. All I can do is separate liquids and combine them. Send help.
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>>343390417
>Why is Kyle important?

Because in the secret end, you impersonate Kyle and start talking with various characters. The last one is Akane, who says "are you REALLY Kyle?"

After this, Akane tells you that Kyle has been just sent back to the past, and (you) are also going to be sent to do something "vital" at the mars test site.
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>>343388413
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>>343390447
Fuck no! I ain't gonna play that rigged shit! I always end up losing!
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>>343390447
>This is bad, everything is exploding.
>NO WAIT
>CHANCU!
>Blows up

The absolute madman.
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>>343390310
Jap voice is better overall.
Both are good tho.
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>>343390620
She never said that Kyle would be at the mars test site.
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>>343390574
same happened to me, even after I rigged the votes for every team's death nothing happens unless you do it back to back, which is bullshit
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>>343390447
The fuck?
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>>343390609
Help a nigga out god damn. I'm sitting in a sea of spoilers here hoping for a fucking way out.
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>>343390609
Check the sink
The pillow
The note on the box
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>>343390609
>>343390790

You should only need the power cord. It's Phi is Diana and Sigmas kid. Delta is Zero and Phis brother.

Oh and don't forget I did this cause you acted like a fucking faggot. Next time don't act like a sperg
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>>343390790
Look at the seperated colours under a microscope.


If you can't figure it out after, you're hopeless.
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I just got D end 2. Wow. Wow wow. My mind is literally full of fuck.
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>>343390891
lol this anon
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>>343388331
YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA LICK IT
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>>343390916
He doesn't have the lens to see under the scope, he has to search the sink still I think for it i don't remember.
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>>343390891
Edgy.
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>>343390447
firefighter carlos saves the day (and gets 6 billion people killed)
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>>343390891
lmaooooo
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>>343391014
I love how

literally like 4 seconds before that, Akane explained how they wouldn't lose their memories or create a time paradox, so they'd still know him even if he stopped zero
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>>343389374
Ending definitely didn't feel complete enough. Epilogue files should've been cutscenes but they ran out of budget. If they made the Young Sigma/Diana file into a cutscene people would have 1 more scene to cry at
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>continuing VLR's tradition, you get you first ending immediately and it's shit
>you can't skip lines at all until they've been read at least once
FUCK YOU
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>>343391071
I KNOW LMAO that whole part was just really funny to me. i love how he was trying to be all anime protagonist and be like "my friends are the ones who truly matter to me!" but they just shut him the fuck down like the adorable dumbass he is
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>>343391150
Why would you skip lines? Isn't the main draw of the game the story?
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One question about the ending
Why the fuck did he kill Gab, and ask them to look behind the counter?
Literally what did this accomplish?
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>>343391150
by a children's activity book if you want to do puzzled you literal child
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>>343390401
This made no sense. Delta is not a shifter, and the Akane was see in 2029 and 2074 antagonistic as hell against FTS for what they did.

All she got was the robe, that doesn't mean she went to the meeting.
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>>343390447
Hey, you're pretty hot Akane
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>>343388690
>aged but still relatively optimistic old man in VLR
That's because of Quark though.
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Wow i got the 3ds version and this looks worse than RWBY
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Zero Time Dilemma is an anagram for Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta.
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>>343390997

Maybe. But it was the reply that he deserved. Talk shit, get hit.
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>>343391243
>le evil man kills for no reason
Zero is such a shit villain
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>>343391243
Gab was Kyle from the future, he was about to fuck Delta's shit up before Delta mind raped him and figured out it was no ordinary dog with a 12 inch cock.
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>>343391243
To provoke them and to get Americans mad. But seriously the more reasonable explanation is that he didn't want them to worry about leaving him behind
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>>343391305
Oh shit thanks, I was stuck for hours at Me? I'm Zero. I'm LDEAT.
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>>343390747
It's heavily implied
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>>343389032
Just because she had a plan doesn't mean she was always ruthless and cold before. She was just accessing morphogenetic field and preparing for the worst, but still had hope to prevent the outbreak in ZTD. In the apocalypse end the outbreak had already happened so all that's left is to execute the plan she had.
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Is this the last from Chunsoft?
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>>343391210
The delivery is far too slow. I don't care enough for the voice acting and the terrible animations to want to watch it entirely when there's bound to be redundancy with choices. A substantial portion of VNs is repeating stuff you already know eg I have to wait for them to see red was wrong after I picked blue, then red, listen to zero say again that everyone is going to sleep, listen to them all object, ect...
I never use auto mode on VNs for the same reason, I just want the text nigga and only slow down in parts that get theme songs/important enough; because no, even with the new cinematic approach not all of it is interesting enough to warrant sitting through.
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>>343391408
zero is doing this to save everyone. He wants to stop extinction he loves his mommy he loves his brother and he saved Gab in the original timeline

Why'd he have to be such a dick about it?
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>>343390747
Yes she did. Kyle is ABSOLUTELY necessary to execute the plan. While this might mean he helps from the outside, Kyle is still NEVER mentioned.
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>>343391467
You skipped a text box on purpose. The middle line is not talking about Kyle's consciousness.
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>>343391569
But she never said that Kyle's consciousness would be at the test site.
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>>343391458
>akane can decipher a fuckhueg anagram in her head but gets stuck on a five letter word.
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>>343390559
>2 hints

More like 2 thousands.
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>>343391150
But you can. Check the settings.
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>>343391525
PC port may or may not have made money back.


It may have more sales down the line, if the 2 previous titles get ported.
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>>343391696

Would you mind sharing? I'm not saying they aren't there, just that I didn't notice any. The only major one I picked up on was the Q team vote when Eric said all they have to do was force the vote. I thought he was forcing Sean to vote what he wants. But it still registers whatever you choose to vote. So it stuck out as odd to me. It's really the only thing I can think off of the top of my head.
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>>343391525
Does the plus-minus sign imply a sampling error?
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>>343391850
Any time the characters made choices then insisted they didn't mean to make that choice
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>>343391850
The number of shotgun shots
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>>343391946

Fair enough that it hints someone is manipulating them. But I'm referring specifically to hints to him being in the room with Q team. The only other instance I can think that it's even relevant past that initial vote is the ending where Sean shoots him with an arrow. But I mean, that's only something you can know after the reveal or if you've been spoiled.

>>343391976

I'm not following, need more info.
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>>343391850
Every time sean "dies" but Q isn't registered dead.

When Diana says "even Q was killed! How horrible!" When she never saw that kid.

When Mira shots twice when you try to crossbow her.

When you see the bloodstain if you say the wrong zero name.

When you say Q did it during "who killed Mira?"

When Sigma or Phi, can't remember, mentions Q having a disability.

When Eric says "Oh, the chair bound old man! They put us in a difficoult situation on purpose!"

When you see a big shadow in front of Sean when he stays behind in the Q team button end.

When Diana or someone asks where's Q during the coin toss.
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>>343392186
>When Diana says "even Q was killed! How horrible!" When she never saw that kid.
She thought that the old man was killed.
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>>343391850

What I can think of:

1) His shadow can be seen in a lot of scenes, you just have to be looking for it.
2) When you learn Sean's name and tell it to Eric while he's in rampage mode and asks who killed Mira, he says "I knew it was you", therefore tipping you off that he knew Sean's name all along.
3) During the 3-way standoff, if you input Q, it says "please input Q's real name", if you try "Sean" it doesn't work.
4) During the shower button scenes, they talk about Delta, but they say "he", and the way it's presented you assume they're talking about Sean at the time unless you know Delta is there.
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>>343392186
Also when eric asks the old man what to do and sean reply "what, you think he is going to speak?", seemingly talking to gab

Q also never has picture in the status screen
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
DID ANYONE ELSE GET THIS IN THE LOCKER ROOM
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>>343392298
That's the point they're trying to make
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>>343392347
Get what?
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>>343391850
https://u.pomf.is/gvoyuw.mp4
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>>343392347
Akane is cute! cute! cute!
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>>343392347
I've never seen it. When was this?
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What the fuck is even the goal? what am I even matching up

nigger I don't understand
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>>343392473
I checked the status after you change timelines from the transporter room
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>>343392583
You just match the shapes, not the colours.
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>>343392583
Match the colored shapes on the edges
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>>343392347

What's wrong with it?
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>>343391305
>Zero Time Dilemma is an anagram for Me? I'm Zero. I'm Delta.
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>>343392632
oh

Oh shit

what the fuck IT TURNS
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Send help, I'm stuck. I did every part possible up to the boxes, and remember nothing about box passes, the Q helmet code didn't work for Q.
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Anyone thought it was odd that the shotgun in the pod room comes with 4 shells, but Eric just fires it off willy nilly
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I feel like I'm stuck and I'm not sure if I just didn't write down some things or what

I've done every not-locked event I could besides entry points I don't know the entries too. Like who killed mira, the 4th person to kill as Q, the 3 force quit boxes and the truth door I found after jumping time as Sigma. I got so far jumping as Carlos to send a note to Q team about the portrait with the dog but I'm not seeing that effecting anything in any of my Q team stuff related to that timeline and the pod room.

Did I miss some obvious stuff or are some of these time changes gonna need me to go through old cutscenes that aren't marked?
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>>343392829
Far right scenario. Choose Delta.
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>>343392347
Every portrait is a different type of doll.
Ken, Nendoroid, Voodoo, Matryoshka, Barbie, Baby, Porcelain, Paper, Nutcracker.
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>>343392915

When asked who killed mira, don't input anything. I was stuck there too.
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>>343392915
>>343392829
I got stuck around here. Are you sure you killed all teams? It'll light up on the top left of the flowchart.
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>>343392926
>>343392829
don't do this unless you've encountered the name delta before, bad advice
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>>343392347
I don't get it
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>>343392984
You can enter "i dont know" as the answer as well.
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>>343392926
I don't know who that is, yet. I don't want to break sequence.

>>343392915
Shit man I'm stuck at the same place.

>>343392984
I actually did that just before asking, but what next?

>>343393013
Oh shit, yeah green didn't light up yet for some reason, noticed this earlier. How to trigger?
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>>343393013
>Are you sure you killed all teams?

I've gone back and voted for the opposite with everyone but apparently not. Does the game remember your most recent choices for that?
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>tfw you find out Diana is a slut
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>>343393127
>Does the game remember your most recent choices for that?
Yes.
You just need to rig the vote to execute other team.
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>>343393127

Yes, go and re-vote. Also, not sure if it matters, but go back to before solving the pod room, there's some new footage there with collar flashbacks after you've cleared transporter room stuff.
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>>343390234
I want to do something with fragmented memories and you have to reconstruct the timeline in order for it to make sense somehow.
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>>343393120
Make the other teams change their votes accordingly at 1330
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>>343393305
>>343393180
>>343393228
Thank you people.
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Wonder if there are any secret endings.
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Holy shit

"Let's dig a hole each one of us, seven graves will be a decent start."

I completely misinterpreted that line, bravo Uchikoshi
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>just finished the ending where Delta hands the gun to Carlos to play the decision game

THIS can't be it can it?
Guys?
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why is akane so robust?
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Anyone know how to fix the sound issues on PC?
Already installed OpenAL and the other program inside commonredist as one of the admin on steam discussion suggested but still no luck.
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>>343393486
Wait, when does this happen?
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Alright, I've been thinking about this for a bit after playing the "Reality" fragment again and what I got is that Sean's consciousness is Blick Winkel. One of Delta's COMPLEX goals is to give Sean, at least one instance of his consciousness a happy childhood by putting it into the quantum computer. but the other thing I got from Delta's dialogue is that the litte boy's dream was traversing the universe. and getting him into the quantum computer would realize that, making him a consciousness without a body, able to access all of reality and its possibilites. sounds exactly like the description of Blick Winkel in VLR to me.

And wouldn't that, by extension, somehow make Kyle Sean's consciousness if he switched with BW at the end of VLR? my head hurts
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I'm stuck at the door of truth and I can't jump to any other point, what do?
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>>343393504

This is it.

The only thing that remains is to read the fanfiction tier closure notes in your files.
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>>343393665
Wrong password 3 times.
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>>343393707
Thanks anon
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>>343393665
Did you try to input the password several times until the scene cut out?
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>>343393676
are there any for team D?

Also one issue I had with the game regarding the transport pods

When Sigma and Diana who transported say that the pods can't be used in response to Carlos, haven't the pods not been used in that specific line of history? What's the issue, unless the act of receiving the copies also uses the 10 month charge?
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Why does voting ALWAYS lead to a team dying after you've unlocked all the voting choices? How does it make sense?
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so all these people want to call the cops on Delta, but are okay with Mira being a serial killer ?
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>nobody questions that a deaf and blind wheelchair-ridden man can vote for Q team
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What's the verdict on the narrative style boyles? Did cinematics work or could this just have been a VN from the start?
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>>343393606

Huh, Sean being ? would... actually make sense. We know ? is a being from 2028 that is a consciousness without a body that is also able to "jump", and observe possibilities. Him being able to observe any possibility would count as him "being able to freely move in time and space", he's the only one who can fit the bill.

The Kyle switch would probably raise some issues, as Akane implied Sigma would have Kyle at his side, but wouldn't Kyle switch back to his body as long as ? in also in his original time?
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>>343393952
The game remember your choices so the other two are set, and is not always, the two combinations that make a tie don't
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>>343394021

I think it did kind of work, but it needed much better polish. The animations and mouth flaps especially. And they needed to show things happening instead of panning the camera away.
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>>343394104
Ah, I see, I went back and followed the correct voting choices, then no execution cutscene played, it seems that the game only remember the last choices
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>>343394021
They really should have just presented it in text boxes, it was really annoying how incredibly slow the cutscenes went and skipping shots would sometimes randomly make you miss dialogue even though at the start of it nothing showed up.
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>>343381260
I'll add "protagonist who is always an only child for some reason" and "college student but you have no idea what they were even studying"
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>>343391525
>It's a retard think Steamspy is reliable since day 1
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>>343393959
When Zero explains the leaders of ech group Eric and Mila say something like "Are you kidding me?"
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>tfw no good new music
>90% of music is reused
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>expected the phi is their kid
>didn't actually expect a sex scene
>didn't expect the battered wife
What the fuck Uchi
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>>343393959
They discuss about forcing Q to vote, which probably means moving his arm.
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Man, Insane Akane was great. Don't touch her Jumpy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBCXQeBW-M

Does the rendition of Morphogenetic Sorrow at the beginning and end of this play at any point in the game? I might have missed it because I pulled an all nighter to finish it.
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>>343394756
This was a good track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9QQjrKs4nM
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So where was Phi most of the game? In truth door was she incinerated?
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>Twist is foreshadowed
>Length is around the same as 999 without the shitty repetition, more content and based flowchart
>Puzzles are fun
>Characters are overall bretty good characterized, no more 9th Man's or Quark's.
>Great soundtrack (they use Blue bird lamentation a bit too much, but is just a minor thing)
>Emotional moments, gorefests, SHIFTing shenanigans

I don't know about you guys, but it was my GOTY. The only bad thing I can see about it is that is open ended, but you can guess that Carlos isn't gonna shoot Zero and they're all eventually working together as SHIFTers to prevent another disaster (I mean, they have amazing control of their powers thanks to this game, it would be just trial and error until they find the guy).
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I think it would have been a better twist if Sigma had been stuck in the facility with Phi instead of Diana. Then they fucked and Phi was actually her own mother.
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>>343395141

No, in truth door D-team was executed.
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>>343395141
Written out of the story
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>>343395310
Huh, Imagine that. Being your own mother, daugher and a foster mother at the same time.
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>>343395287
>>Puzzles are fun

no they're not
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What was even Zero's point in lying about the three seperate wards. Why didn't he just actually make it three separate wards. Was it just for the sake of the tweest? What did he gain by lying about it?
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>>343393958
She's hot so it's alright.
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>>343395310
>Then they fucked and Phi was actually her own mother.
That is not how genetics works.
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>>343395401
>tfw I just moved it until I got it cleared

And that's how I completed most of the puzzles. Thank God I don't have to redo them because I wouldn't be able to.
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>>343395287

Do you not take issue with the literal deus ex machina ayy lmao device shoehorned into the plot to conveniently explain everything and provide easy answers? Or with VLR secret ending being completely retconned? Or with that retarded prison break of Mira's?
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>>343395401
>get green and blue to work (piss easy)
>brute force red and yellow
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>>343395468
This. Everyone apparently got triggered by the flower puzzle but it took me fifteen seconds of random clicking to solve it.
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Alien algebra was actually kind of cool.
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>>343395287
Muh nig. The closure of Junpei and Akane's relationship alone made it 8/10 to me.
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>>343395401
most of the puzzles were fun imo but I had to brute force this piece of shit and looked up the solution for the Transporter room puzzle because that one wasn't hard, just annoying.
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>>343395430
because COMPLEX
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>>343395490
>Or with that retarded prison break of Mira's?
Different anon but I just pretend that file doesn't exist and never happened because it's just text and has no effect on anything else.
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>>343395134

I guess I also liked the transporter room music.

Reused tracks weren't bad, especially non-escape ones. As for escape, they at least remixed my favourite VLR track(Monitor).
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HOOOOOLY SHIT
Just finished ZTD
First I thought it was inconclusive but you guys say there are files ?
How do I get them ?
Also since I was gone since the leak, does anyone have screencaps of the initial reactions to the brickshitting ?
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
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>>343395287
>Twist is foreshadowed
Twist wasn't as well implemented as VLRs. Felt kind of tacked on.
>Puzzles are fun
Puzzle were fucking shit easy this time.
Characters are overall bretty good characterized, no more 9th Man's or Quark's.
Yeah characters were great in this, though I didn't feel as attached since fragments were in random order.
>Great soundtrack
Agreed, a bit to much repetitiveness.
>Emotional moments, gorefests, SHIFTing shenanigans
Some gore was unnecessary but whatever. Based Carlos however.

I wish Akane did more shit. 999 and VLR set her up to be some kind of powerful/malicious person. I was surprised how innocent she was, I swore she had some shit up her sleeve.
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>>343395430
No budget
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>>343395287

Let me show you a REAL fun puzzle I admit to being a gigantic faggot and justl ooking up a guide for this part. There were like 25 of the goddamn things. It was terrifying
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>>343395662
>First I thought it was inconclusive but you guys say there are files ?
If you beat the game then you automatically unlock them.
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>>343395786
Once I understood how it works it was easy. But fuck minesweeper
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>>343391946
That doesn't really hint anything. It was the same with Sigma in VLR. After you've read the epilogue of VLR, you'd rather think it's Kyles (Blicks)>>343391946
consciousness briefly taking over to explore other timelines.
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>>343393787
Receiving also uses the charge that's why Carlos transported himself ten months before The Decision Game
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How the fuck could Carlos read the transporter menu
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>>343395430
If they think the wards are separated, they won't suspect the other teams when something happens. Basically, that way Mira can do what she wants.

And why that? COMPLEX I guess.
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>>343396049
same way everyone solves long ass anagrams in their heads in a minute.
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>>343395986
Sigma knew it was himself making the decisions. In ZTD everyone makes an episode about how it wasn't them when a "bad" decision is made
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>>343396113
>Akane solves multiple long-ass anagrams "with letters left over"

>can't solve "L D E A T"
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>only one of the loose ends from VLR was actually addressed
>none of the things he said in his interview were explained
>added a shitton of new loose threads
>another fucking cliffhanger ending in a series that may not get another game
Fuck you, Uchikoshi.
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>world where Sean didn't have a surgery is canon
Kill me please
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>>343396049
He can see which path leads to death.

Or just pressed a point in the same line he was, but way earlier, and got lucky.
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How do i access the preorder stuff on steam?
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>>343395310
Go away Marty Mcfly

But I think Sigma and Phi is a better pairing than Sigma and Diana
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>>343396181
What's cliffhanger about the ending? Whether Carlos shoots Delta or not is up to your interpretation; regardless, they go on to find and stop the religious fanatic
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HELP

Which code?
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Did anyone else find Sigma creepy as fuck in the twin ending? Seems to just say all that shit to Diana to make her calm down then has sex with her just what the fuck. Maybe it's the dead faces.
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>>343396106
Wow so I guess he spent millions of dollars on hyper-technology mega holographic walls just so Mira could get away with killing people. It was the only way!!

C O M P L E X
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>>343395680
>I wish Akane did more shit. 999 and VLR set her up to be some kind of powerful/malicious person. I was surprised how innocent she was, I swore she had some shit up her sleeve.

I guess this comes from her VLR characterization where she is portrayed pretty much like that. seems she only became that way during the 45 years and was still relatively normal until then. but yeah, they could at least have adressed the fact that she indirectly murdered 3 people for revenge in 999.
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>>343387041
How necessary is the story for these games?

I have played both, but have never 100% either of them. The puzzles were super fun and from what i could understand of the story it was good too.

Only problem is I have no idea what is going on.

Really want to play this game though.
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>>343396180
I don't know why the hell did they do that, it's not like knowing Delta name at that point would help them.
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>>343396415
If you dont know dont bother yet
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>>343396445
Those were bad people though. The people in ZTD (besides Mira and arguarbly Zero) weren't.
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>>343395401
The puzzles were mostly easy as soon as you figured out how they work.
For example, in that puzzle blue and yellow have to come from a specific direction. So try to figure out how you can connect blue to the top mirror. Same with yellow, you need that pair of the second to last column at the bottom for it to work. That basically covers the right site.

I had a lot more problems picking up some items or finding switches. Easily took me 15 minutes to find the power switch in the Power Room. Or the manufacturing room, god no
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>>343396436
they had been stuck there for months
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>>343396436
They were there waiting for a rescue team for one month and a half nigga. He was thristy as fuck by that point.
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>>343396378
You didn't get the absolutely perfect ending. The one where you kill the snail, Mira isn't a murderer, therefore Akane's dad doesn't get executed, therefore Akane's mom doesn't kill herself, therefore she never goes into the first Nonary Game, therefore the 2nd Nonary Game doesn't happen, therefore everyone has perfectly happy lives where none of this bullshit happens. Also, the surgeon would've lived, allowing Sean to live. We also never find the actual religious fanatic, or about Left, or Snake, or Santa.
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>>343395786
>thought this was SAW the game
>almost no tortureporn
>puzzles are piss easy and generic as fuck, deadly contraptions are rarely even presented in them
>please listen to my long and stupid sob story
>fragments are in random order without clear continuity, on top of it you can't access fragments from the global flowchart
>TIMEPARADOX, supernatural fuckery and deus ex machinas out of wazoo

It really reminds me euphoria, but euphoria at least had shit to fap to.
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>>343396106
>>343396440
And what was even the point of Mira being loose? All she did was killing Junpei WHICH WASN'T EVEN HER, SHE WAS MINDHACKED

why even have a psychopath in there
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Does anybody know of anywhere that provides a good detailed synopsis of the first two games?

I never had time to get all the endings but I want to play this.
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>>343396702
>fragments are in random order without clear continuity, on top of it you can't access fragments from the global flowchart

huh? yes you can
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>>343396702
t. virgin
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>>343396689
I got those in some files but I thought it was dumb as shit so I'm just going to ignore it.

Is there an epilogue for team family?
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>>343396731
C O M P L E X
O
M
P
L
E
X
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>>343395287
>Phi had barely any screentime
>Didn't talk that much about Left and Free the Souls
>Twist isn't in the true end, so you kinda expect more to come while playing it
For the most part, fans expected too much from it.
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>>343396731
She killed D-team too. And why Zero let her do all that? Again, COMPLEX.
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>>343390559
>Just cause the nigga is paralyzed doesn't mean that he can't choke the bitch
really ?
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>>343396771
If you have time to play this, then you have time to get the true endings in the previous games.
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>>343396731
>SHE WAS MINDHACKED
No she's not. All Delta did just let her loose. She was never mindhacked.
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>>343396771
Why bother playing when you don't want to play the other two? "All endings" Is pretty much vital for the whole story. There's really only one ending.
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>>343396803
>Is there an epilogue for team family?
Nope. Did yu rike it?
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>>343396824
Wasn't D-Team executed in that timeline?
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>>343396835
>>343396871
I work long hours so i don't have the time to be playing the other two games when i could just read the synopsis.

Why is that such a problem for you?
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>>343396731
>>343396839
Speaking of Mira, how come she only went on a killing spree in like one timeline. Why didn't she kill anyone in the left timeline where everyone lives?
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>>343396839
Of course she was, everything points to it

>Her leitmotif is taking the victim's hearts, doesn't do it
>Delta somehow knew she'd chop up the body SO HE COULD USE IT IN HIS PUZZLE

she was mindhacked
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>>343392186
>When Mira shots twice when you try to crossbow her.
Sean + Eric
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>>343396946
just read the synopsis of the third game too then, will cost less time than playing it
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>>343396908
Yes
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>>343396946
But you just said that you have time to play ZTD. Use this time to play the previous games instead.
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>>343396996
Eric was shot in the heart, nigger.
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>>343396996
Eric dies by Sean's crossbow, Mira shoots Delta
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>>343397046
>>343397016
Go fuck yourselves, I have time to play one fucking game over the course of 3 months and all I asked for was some advice, jesus fuck you people are obnoxious.

I CAN'T play the other games even if I wanted to as I lent them from a friend, so i don't even have the save.
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>>343396972
Mira is a really fucking inconsistent character, the serial killer shit only comes in at times when it's convenient for the story.

It's fucking weird too, the final ending has them know the histories of other timelines, so they'd know she's dangerous as fuck
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>>343396923
Yes, I meant in another timeline.
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OKAY JUST FINISHED THIS
WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING THE LAST WEEK ?
WHEN EXACTLY DID THE SPOILERS START COMING SO I CAN CHECK THE ARCHIVES ?
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>>343397141
Yeah well you're retarded
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>>343397141
We're not trying to fuck you over, just saying that reading a wiki or whatever spoils a lot of the fun in ZTD, it's a bad idea
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>>343397141
Play 999 in a emulator
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>>343394134
>not mentioning the atrocious clipping
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>>343396771
Well certainly not the ZE wiki. That place is a goddamn mess.
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>>343396983
Delta's main ability is mind reading, mindhack is just his secondary ability which he can only do for a moment, like for pressing buttons or pulling triggers. Besides, even if he can, why would he bother to mindhack Mira when he can use dozens of Sean robots to do it?
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>>343397141
Obviously it's because we want you to get the best experience. ZTD isn't that great compared to the others. And it's gonna be a shit ton worse if you haven't played them. Don't come back saying ZTD was overhyped and shit.
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>tfw avoided the internet until I got my copy
>finally finished
>feel a great deal of disappointment but also satisfied in a way
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>The entire scene talking about NOT BTTF

I couldn't contain my laughter.
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>>343397326
Which fragment? I got to see this.
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>>343397302
I don't know, it's a weird-ass plothole

Why else would Mira not have taken the heart AND done the exact right thing to make the Pantry puzzle solvable?
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Why didn't the Seanbots kill D-team in the ending that leads to VLR? They broke the fucking rules.
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>>343397319
>tfw "Sean" doesn't work for no good reason
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>>343397428
because that's zero's plan to kill 6 billion people, why would he prevent his own plan from happening
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>>343397141
You have the opportunity to experience 999 for the first time (presumably) unspoiled.
I envy you. Stop acting like a babby.
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>The protagonist's tendency to break the fourth wall is actually due to him indirectly referring himself to Ririko. She was burdened with the Maximum Penalty by association, because of the fact that Higuchi Saburou - her father - was a criminal of the state for leading a rebellion.
>Thus, he could not communicate with her directly, for the Maximum Penalty consists of isolating the possessor, and anyone who would come into contact, would be sent to a concentration camp.

Uchikoshi is a hack.
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>>343396731
An ape like can't even begin to fathom Zero's COMPLEX scheme
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>>343397326
I'm retarded, "NOT BTTF"?
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>>343397413
The Ambidex fragment after you both win and lose the AB Game.
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>>343397508
Never mind, read your first post. Still, the true endings of 999 is the one of the best gaming experiences I've had. People aren't trying to trick you when they're saying you're retarded for skipping it.
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>>343397604
Back to the future
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>mfw when you put Delta when asked who the killer is, and then Q points at you, breaking the fourth wall kind of. I thought this was gonna be Blick Winkel all over again.
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>>343397640
Ah, yeah that was good.
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>>343397424
My guess is Mira did kill Junpei on her own accord, then Delta used his corpse for the puzzle. But hey, unless we get confirmation from Uchi himself, it's all are just headcanon.
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Ever17 and 999 were flukes
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We all bully Carlos but Akane isn't better.
Why in D-Team End 2 she didn't help Sigma and Diana? She could tell somebody that some people may be still in there.
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>>343397326
They weren't even pretending that it wasn't BTTF they were talking about though, they just never said any names because otherwise legal trouble ensues. Someone also clearly makes a reference to the Matrix at some point.
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>>343397768
They mention this - she forgot thanks to the drug
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>>343397775
Even if it didn't make sense, the trophy "What are ya, chicken?" should have been unlocked after that story.
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>>343397846
I thought that was just Sigma trying to calm Diana down with his assumptions.
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>get the ending where diana and sigma are stuck in the shelter til they starve to death
>wonder if they're gonna fuck, at least to pass the time
>they do fuck
>they have a baby named Phi they send back to pre2009 and another

Oh shit
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There's no winning for you guys. First you mad because Akane is innocent and not ruthless, and then when she acted like this >>343397768 you also complain.
Leave Akane alone. She had a hard life.
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>DUDE HEARTS LMAO
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How am I supposed to solve the roulette puzzle? I thought the circles numbers represented letters from english alphabet but there isn´t 28th number. And for some reason I can´t load the page with walkthrough. Help please
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>>343397948
I remember that they mention that in other timelines, so we should assume that that happens for real.
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>>343398007
You need to find another note, which is inside an armor.
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>>343397964
She's ruthless in the sense that she's Macchiavellian, but she's no psychopath - she wouldn't leave them behind if she knew.
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>fragment where entire Q team has to input a password into a computer gets replaced with a fragment where everyone but Q and Mira are dead and Mira escaped
Huh?
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>You'll never be stuck in a meat sandwich with Sigma and Carlos

They gave them both such glorious pecs
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>>343397964
I had a hard life too but i don't act like spoiled brat like her.
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been reading the thread but i still want to ask,what was everyone's opinion on the ending and game in general? do you feel the unexplained shit and occasional plot holes brought it down a lot? what were the dumbest things in the plot for you?
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>>343398169
How is she a spoiled brat?
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>>343398059
Im probably retarded but I still dont get it
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>>343397768
They were dead in that timeline.
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>>343398169
>I had a hard life too
>Comparing your "shitty" life with dead games where you have headaches because of your fragile existence and a another we're your husbando is cut into pieces.

You're retarded bro.
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>>343398379
There are two notes, one is a letter note and the other is number note. Number note shows you what letter to pick to be inputted on the machine.
If you still don't get it just type this: SPIN
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>>343398550
Pretty sure there is no number note, is the roulette table
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>>343398124
>Being able to grope Sigma in the trash disposal room and go into the cramped shower with him

Too much
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>>343398315
I am satisfied with what I got, but I'm also fairly easy to please.

I'm just grateful to have learned "What happened at Dcom?"
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>>343398648
There is. At my playthrough I only got the number note, which confused me because it's the same with the one on the table. Until an anon told me there's a letter note.
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>>343391525
Galyonkin said numerous times that Steamspy needs at least a week to aggregate every purchase, it literally scans every fucking Steam account for what games it has. When you will learn, /v/?
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Literally just finished it 10 minutes ago. It was pretty good, but when I finished 999 and especially VLR I was blown away. Maybe this one will grow on me, but there are a lot of seemingly loose, plot holes, and hand waves. And the twist was p dumb.
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>>343392304
>3) During the 3-way standoff, if you input Q, it says "please input Q's real name", if you try "Sean" it doesn't work.

I was REALLY confused at that part but it didn't tip me off in the slighest
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>>343398915
I also just finished. I feel the same way.
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>>343398315
Ending was underwhelming. I was satisfied with the experience I had with the exception of Kyle. Left was just a plot device and who actually likes Clover and Alice
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>>343395662
I still think that this scene, where you had to swap your DS, was the best story-telling moment of the franchise.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>343399078
>>343398915
Just finished it too and feel the same. Was lurking in flowchart for like 10 minutes searching for new secret timeline, something like VLR did.
I can't believe CQD-END2 is the true ending. It is true ending, right?
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>>343399350
There will be DLC for True True Ending.
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>>343399350
Yes it is.
>>343399442
Will it include a puzzles?
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>>343399350
It really needed an epilogue chapter like Akane going to the cult's meeting.
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>>343399350
>>343399078
>>343398915
I think the problem is that were expecting a big TWEEEST at the end, but it happened way before the true ending and they just expanded it from there to reach the climax instead of it being THE climax like in the other games.
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>>343392836
Also the Grenade Launcher and Crossbow in the Study somehow having more than 1 round.
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I don't understand.
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>>343399653
I think one of the main reasons the game was disappointing is that it should have been linked so intricately to VLR, but the devs obviously didn't want to make the game inaccessible for new players, so we're stuck with a weird medium.
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>>343399734
eh? You got it right. Whats the problem?
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>>343399734
What does a roulette wheel do, Anon?
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>>343399618
Come on, we all really know what happened there.
Only with less women and more left clones.
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>>343399815
But it linked with VLR. The point of the game is trying to avoid it though, since that's the worst ending that could happen, even worse than all of them dying.
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>>343399865
>>343399827
Yea but the password doesn't work
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>>343399734
What word can you make from those 4 letters?
God, how do people get stuck over ZE puzzles. They are like baby first escape room puzzle.
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>>343399734
There is another clue that shows you what order to place them in.

I had this same problem and wondered why they made you solve an anagram at first.
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>>343400094
The clue was in the Chess box if I remember right.
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>>343399734
SNIP
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>>343400001
Don't tell me you tried to type in SINP
Come on Anon, what does a roulette wheel do?
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>>343400094
>>343400063
Got it, I'm a fucking idiot.
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>>343399734
PNIS
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>>343399995
I meant that there should have been more connections to VLR. Reasonably, you probably shouldn't play ZTD unless you've finished VLR, but I feel like the devs didn't reference VLR in places they could've because of fear of alienating new players. Like a lot of unfinished threads, K, ?, Free the Soul, etc.
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>>343399734
NIPS
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>>343387041
Ok question.
I played 999 but not VTR.
I don't wanna go out and spend $200 on a 3ds so I wanna know, will I be missing anything by skipping VTR before I play this?

Like I know 999 and VTR are connected and shit, but if I'd be missing a huge chunk of information I can't help but wonder why'd they port the last game in a serious before the first two.
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>>343400945
>don't wanna go out and spend $200 on a 3ds
Spend it on a Vita then :^)
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>>343400945
Yes, you'd be missing a good deal of information.
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>>343400945
See >>343400365

I think the game is set up in a way that means you don't actually get spoiled that much if you haven't played VLR, the references aren't very in your face

The only thing you'll miss is more backstory to two/three characters, but that doesn't come into play much
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>>343399734
PeNIS
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>>343400945
You wouldn't miss anything cause VTR doesn't exist

VLR on the other hand is a great game, tied for best in the series, you should definitely play it.
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>>343400945
2ds is like 99 bucks
32gb cards are like 10 bucks
cfw is like 3 hours
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>>343400945
I hate people like you. Also the protagonist Sigma is Zero and an old man
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>>343401083
>>343401007
>>343401016

I'm not going to spend over $200 just to play one game so I guess I'm going to be waiting at least another year before I play this shit.

Just kek, who the fuck seriously thinks it's a good idea to port the final game of a series first.
Hell fucking DANGANRONPA got that shit right
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>>343400945
>Do I need to play the second part of a story intensive trilogy
Jinkies, what a fucking mystery truly the greatest puzzle yet.
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>>343401235
If you're really desperate anon and you don't care about the puzzles that much there's a 100% interactive playthrough on youtube.
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>>343401305
Hey takahiro I finally finished the last installment of my game series, what consoles should I sell it on.
I don't know Tojo what about PC
But Takahiro none of our other games have been released on PC so people who don't go spend hundreds of dollars on other consoles will have any idea what's happening
But Tojo think of all the money the baka gaijin will give us.
Takashiro could we not port the first two game before we release the final installment, much like Shinji and Hirohito did with Danganronpa and Neptunia
Of course not Tojo that would mean we'd be spending money to support the Gaijin since everyone in grorious nippon is a manchild who spends hundreds of dollars on held held consoles.
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>>343401643
You're implying it's not on 3ds/vita

Not their fault you don't have one
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>>343401643
A 2ds is like not even 90 dollars how poor are you
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>>343401827
>spending over $100 to play a single game
Wow it's almost like some people don't live with their parents.
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>>343401235
>I'm not going to spend over $200
You can get a Vita TV for 40 bucks, VLR for probably 10 at this point.
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>>343401890
You'll get VLR and ZTD plus literally every other 3ds game ever.
Or don't I don't even care, just don't play ZTD without playing VLR or you'll trigger me.
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>>343401235
just watch the let's play faggot
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About to start (fuck you amazon). How do you get the true endon in this one?
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I have a unique nitpick: it felt like this game didnt have enough of those "but first let's talk about parallel universes" moments where the characters talk about concepts like 999/VLR did with the chinese room and the prisoner's dilemma and so on. I can't even really pinpoint if there was any musical motif that played during those explanations, meanwhile 999 played Digital Root while VLR played Clarification
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>>343402085
3DS library is shit though.
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I finished the "good" transporter ending, is this the right time to shoot Delta or do I go somewhere else first?
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What do I do in the rec room decision game with dices? I don´t have any choice so how am I supposed to make a decision? I can just left click and get random numbers on dices, then everyone dies.
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>>343402287
>watching LP's
>calling other people faggots

>>343402368
This

Fuck it I'm just going to wait for Citra to be stable
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>>343402426
Oh, also I'm pirating and seeding this game on every platform I can find, cause fuck these kikes for this shit.
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>>343402408
Keep trying. I got all ones on my third try, it's probably scripted.
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>>343402408
Nigga do some statistics, after 3 launches your probability to score triple 1 skyrocket. I'm sure it forces a success at the third try.
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>>343402487
>>343402426
>too lazy or stupid to use google but still mad as fuck
see >>343401985
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>>343402408
you always get all 1s in the third try
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>>343402408
Figured it out. Aparently if you just decide before oen second passes everyone gets 1
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>>343402351
There's a whole lot, although some are mentioned just briefly

I'm okay with there not being as much, especially in VLR it felt pretentious as fuck, like a first-year philosophy student first learning about this shit
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>>343402426
>i want to play this game but i don't want to spend money
>here you can try these alternatives
>nooo i don't want this i don't want that
kys faggot
Sigma is Zero, and an old man
Luna is a robot
The granny is Akane
Tenmyouji is Junpei
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>>343402351
nigga what, there was
>monty hall problem
>sleeping beauty paradox
>atrophic principle
>quantum immortality
>grandfather paradox
>causal loops
>many worlds interpretation
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>>343402606
>$40 for a shitty box
>$50 for a controller so that you can use the shitty box
>$30 for the game

Yeah still spending over $100 to play one game
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Should I get the 3ds or steam version?
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>>343402895
>>monty hall problem
>>quantum immortality
>>grandfather paradox
>>causal loops

Sure, they are there but they don't talk about them in the game at all.
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>>343403038
steam
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>>343402895
the monty hall problem isn't as much of a trap in ZTD at all, with 10 doors it's a lot more obvious how it works than with 3
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>>343403038
Antman, can I have a bigger picture?
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>>343403116
Monty Hall at least is specifically mentioned
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Would you?
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>>343402895
I guess they just felt underhwelming because like someone said earlier, there's a good number of the concepts that are mentioned briefly compared to how they were treated in the previous games. I'm talking about stuff like Alien Hand syndrome, those mind-altering parasites, and Especially the Monty Hall problem. When i heard the game was going to use it i was expecting some amazing application of it but it was super underwhelming.
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>>343403116
They are talked in the files.

The same shit files with those fanfic ends.
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>>343387041
>Finish the game
>The baby twist was great
>The Delta was there all along twist is just an infinitely worse executed version of the same twist in Sharin no Kuni
>The whole thing was just a setup for another sequel that will definitely never happen
>No mention of Clover or Snake at all
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>>343402975
>$40 for a shitty box
>$50 for a controller so that you can use the shitty box
>$30 for the game
So you're too fucking stupid to google for a used controller and sales?
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>>343403197

Yeah, the name once by Akane, the rest is in a file.
I think the other Anon wanted some characters to talk about things like these with some nice OST like in the previous games.
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>>343402623
Wow you figured it out nice detective work except it's always three 1s when you try it the third time
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>>343403338
Why are you posting a picture about a mediocre game?
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So people are seemingly confused as to who the identity of the hooded figure is.

To which I say, listen to the sound when she walks. Now, who is the only person in the facility wearing high heels?
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>>343403380
Or the devs could just not be stupid and port their shit in fucking order Like everyone else who makes videogames does.
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>>343403558
Because it's an adequate reaction image to pair with my post, Bait-kun.
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>>343397472
>Who Killed Mira?
>Sean
>I fucking knew it was you!
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>>343403685
please don't embrass yourself further
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>>343395287
I think it was a perfect game... until Delta. His reveal was the Twist Of The Year, but the character is awful. C O M P L E X
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>>343403338
It's not a cliffhanger, it's an open ending.

The whole game revolves around the concept that, during every moral decision, what is "wrong" and what is "right" is completely subjective.

In the end, the things that did Delta, were right or wrong? It's impossible to give a TRUE answer to that, hence why it is never shown if Carlos pulls the trigger.

It's still a disappointing ending and I expected more, but, the more I think about it, the more I realize is still decent.
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>>343403252
black and blue
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>>343403847
The only embarrassment here is spike chunsoft
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>>343403779
>Who Killed Mira?
>Q
>That doesn't make any sense!
>What the fuck asshole you just said it was me
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>>343403574
Who's confused? The game literally tells you it's Mira
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I want to touch Mira's heart
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>>343403896
Delta objectively did nothing wrong.
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>>343403779
>It was Gab!
>That reaction
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Can anyone extend link related ?
It's the alternate blue bird music box track, it's only 20 seconds long ? Please upload it to youtube....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QOXPiSr8oQ
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>OH SHIT WE ARE POSIONED
>WE ARE GOING TO DIE
>"These bottles are antidote" -Akane
>Phi: WE SHOULDN'T DRINK THEM MAYBE CARLOS WANTS TO TRICK US
Is Phi retarded?
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>>343403896
How was it awful? He himself says that his reasons are both for him and Phi to exist in other timelines and to save mankind from extinction by creating a timeline where at least two billion survive.

I don't get this "COMPLEX" meme.
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Please someone explain to me how am I supposed to get to the canon ending? flowchart is just way too big. Finding the true ending would take me whole godamn year
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>>343404313
it's that he also pulls a lot of other extremely complicated seemingly unnecessary shit and he just says his motives are complex
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>>343404337
idiot
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>>343388413
>phi's hair

fuuuuuuck
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>>343404289
It's funny because when you don't drink it they tell diana she's a retard for that exact reason
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>>343404289
She is suspicious of every goddamn thing.
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>>343404107
I was convinced Gab was the one killing everyone for nearly the entire game. Who else had access to the entire facility?

>>343404289
Sigma was right about everything except the button.
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>>343404289
Yeah that was fucking dumb
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>>343404095
He directly or indirectly killed Alice's dad.
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>>343404337
uhh you're supposed to get all of them faggot
It's just 20 hours
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>>343404376
I don´t lurk ZTD threads all the time so yeah I don´t know every little thing you found so far
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>>343404369
>I'm sure I told you in another timeline my motives were complex
>Well, here they are.

He's just fucking with you fampai.
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The part about Phi that she was sent in the past and then in the future feels like a hugest stretch ever
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>>343404486
Nigga just play the game holy shit
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>>343404470
All for the greater good.
Also Alice was a bitch, so who cares?
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>>343389628
Phi only looks like Santa because her hair is white, which isn't real
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For what reason did Delta send Dio to the Moon? Element of danger? Was he in on it?
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Just finished it an hour ago, still not sure how I feel about all of it...I think I liked it more than some people here do though. Some of the twists felt way more obvious in this one.

Why did Delta send Dio in the future to stop the AB game if he ultimately wanted Sigma and Phi to be at the Mars Test Site, ready to try and stop the bad future?
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>>343404936
So he could participate in the AB game, duh
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>>343404661
Just sayin'. It's not like he didn't do nuffin in this timeline. He's still the head of FtS.
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>>343404936
>>343404832
Dio mind
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>>343403252
I would smack her around during sex and listen to her moans of pain and pleasure
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>>343404936
Well, Dio being there ultimately ensured that Phi and Sigma would be in the Mars Test site so you can figure that one out
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So the terrorist is some unnamed isis person they'll probably easily catch, and the only complication would arise if ZTD sells enough for them to make a 4th game, which it probably will
I wanna end it here where everyone is happy but I know uchi will make a 4th game instead of something new, now that he's found his golden egg laying chicken....
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>>343404936
Well I think Dio's bombs forced Sigma and Phi to jump a lot, strengthening their esper power. Anyway, it's not like Dio was going to succeed in every reality anyway. There exists at least one reality where Sigma and Phi stop him, and thats were they come from.
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>>343405147
nigger are you fucking retarded
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>>343404832
>>343404936
Dio was sent there to fuck shit up and make Phi and Sigma jump enough to be able to return back 45 years
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So, how is Brother still alive in VLR?

Is it Sith alchemy?
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>>343403252
Dude, my only criteria are consenting and breathing and I'll probably be down to none if I stay a little longer here
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>>343405045
>>343405105
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>>343405194
Yeah, I suppose that makes sense, I probably should have figured that on my own.

They telegraphed that twist with Phi being Diana's daughter way too heavily. I didn't know how they would do it until those pods showed up, but I knew it would be there.
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>>343405229
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>>343397472
sean doesn't have an xpass
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>>343405386
>Cindhack

Anon...
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>>343405229
He might or might not be. He could just given instructions to someone who he trusted before he died and maybe make someone else to pretend to be him. Or MINDHACK
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>>343405193
Why ?
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>>343405528
Originally I used spaces and forgot they don't work
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>>343405229
It is said in the files that 1904 Phi also lived to her 100's, becoming a famous researcher, implying that Phi and Delta specifically have a much longer life span of normal people, either because of the transportation or being born under those circumstances because of the genetic thing that also gave them the powers
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>>343405651
Time to SHIFT and escape this shame.
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>>343404528
That's called writing yourself into a corner. So they handwave it by saying that the Germans for some reason sent a copy of Phi to 2008.
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>>343405610
because 1)uchikoshi has already said that ZTD is the last game 2)ZE is not a "gold egg laying chicken",both VLR and ZTD barely happen because of how badly it's sold
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So ultimately, are you satisfied/happy this was made? Or were people underwhelmed enough to have preferred to not have known the answers?
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>>343405786

Yeah, but you know, he's already over 120 and VLR is much further into the future still. I think the anon who said he probably left directions after he died was probably right.
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>>343405919
1) check the QA, uchi says there is always a chance for more if people want it
2) ztd was for a time NUMBER ONE on steam
Steam spy is not to be trusted in the first week or so
We'll see
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>>343405915
And luckily they sent her into that one timeline they did. It's not like there are a million possible timelines where something could have happened that prevented any of the events in the game.
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>>343406064
Best game I've played all year so far. Definitely worth it and probably my second favorite in the series after VLR, looking back after the initial disappointment of the ending.
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>>343406064
The ending could have been way better, but overall it's a great game.
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