ITT: underused weapons that are secretly op
>>343298585
>tomislav at release
im glad it's over
Did they remove the 'bottle smashes when you crit' animation?
why the fuck would valve nerf Demoman in such a way
>>343298585
>>343298743
Big Earner > All
Pre Nerf Baby Faces Blaster
I will never forgive
I will never forget
For as long as I live, I promise this
>>343298832
Would use it, but I find the health penalty dreadful, same reason I never use the Kunai. I'm always using the Spycicle.
>>343298730
>>343298730
Wut
It smashed after one hit, but that didn't change its damage. It was just "too confusing for new players"
Better than the sandwich in almost every way, especially when your team has no Med
The Pomson if it still is invisible when you shoot it past dispensers
>>343299073
I only ever used the kunai on the medieval map
>>343299265
This, post rebalance gives you 100 hp, its usually what you heal by anyway
>>343299271
It is
>>343299265
>especially
More like only. When you have a medic it's worthless since the overheals doesn't stack.
>>343298719
>Release Tomislav
What a wonderful time to play Heavy
>>343299315
Same, with dead ringer, no one seems to care about spies on degroot, so going on chainstabs is easy
>>343298719
holy shit it still hurts
Release soda popper
>>343299376
>automatically restores every 10 secs
>can use it to restore yourself 100 hp, get 350 hp for 20 secs and pick around corners while doing it
>can help your team by throwing a chocolate at them every 10 seconds
>>343299487
And with the hills and the fact it's meele only you can get trickstabs and matador stabs really easy
Best sniper comin through
>>343299435
Medic isn't always on your ass, and you can spit small healthpacks at him like it's your full-time job. A sandwich is almost always more than a wounded Medic needs, thanks to his health regen
Fuck all of the side grades in this game. Fuck this game. Fuck Valve.Fuck Blizzard more.
>>343299660
>can't instakill anyone above 150 hp
You are much better help killing that heavy/soldier/demo/anyone with an overhead, not soaking him in jarate.
If you can't hit heads its better than simple bodyshots tho
>>343299660
>trolling people in trade servers with this
literally all my 27 hours as sniper come from doing that
>>343299726
>and you can spit small healthpacks at him like it's your full-time job
This is underrated as fuck. Best way to play heavy
I love going Tomislav / Dalokas / GRU and being a mobile fightin' medic.
>>343299660
>get dominations on everyone by doing absolutely nothing
It's beautiful
>>343300108
>tfw they nerfed GRU without even mentioning that in update info
WHY
If you count updates as development, then TF2 has been in development for almost 20 years.
>>343298585
isn't this game dead
>>343298585
"Underused"
"Secretly OP"
Alright. Spot the newfag.
Looks like you weren't around when competitive TF2 was raging and blown the fuck up due to the ridiculousness of how broken Natascha was. The slowing effect / snare was so incredibly strong on release, if you didn't have it, you were gimping yourself and your team.
In fact, Natascha was BANNED in CEVO probably 6 years ago? Whenever they changed heavy speed.
But yeah people would spam it, land one bullet from a mile away, that slows down the enemy by 50%, and then a sniper would headshot them.
>>343299660
Using the whole set to counter enemy snipers was the best.
>>343299467
Also, Enforcicle spies.
>>343300507
...and?
/thread
>>343298585
Natascha pre-nerf was a nightmare desu
>>343300606
Yes indeed
Remember when sets were a thing, Saharan spy was kinda OP with the dead ringer making 0 noise, fun to play though
>>343300567
I know that, I'm talking about its current state. I barely see people use it nowadays.it's still a straight upgrade to stock if played right
>>343300834
>pre-nerf Dead-ringer+spycicle
I'm glad it's over
>>343300834
150hp Scouts were a fucking pay to win
> So many weapons released
> Never played TF2 enough to get any of them through drops
> Finally get them once I start playing more again
> They've been nerfed
I can only blame myself.
Post when TF2 became dead to you
>>343301002
Most of nerfed weapons deserved it desu
>>343301240
Very true, but I wish I at least had the chance to use 'em back then, y'know?
>>343301157
It was fun to use, but nigga it was OP as fuck. That nerf was deserved
>>343301157
Soldier mains still manbabies
>>343298585
Souther Hospitality.
As long as I get a hit in, I either keep hittin' or get shooting if you move out of range. That bleed is a large help.
>>343301157
>ITT: underused weapons that are secretly op
>Underused
shoots at feet users everyone
>>343301157
When they nerfed the spycicle/enforcer/dead ringer trinity.
>>343301552
;^)
>>343301157
Rocket Jumper + mantreads + shovel
The only way to play soldier.
The stock shotgun
On Pyro it's generally more useful than your flamethrower, and you can fight pretty god damn well as an Engineer with it
>>343301714
Well of course everything has a counter, otherwise it wouldn't be balanced.
>>343299265
>not SpaceChem fish
dropped
>>343301731
>underused
Almost every engeneer uses it, and its a stock weapon
>>343301645
That was the cancer and it was well deserved
>>343301714
If the engi ever finds himself fighting a pyro he's dead anyway
>>343298585
>tooltip says it applies a slow on hit
>it's actually a knockback
>>343300834
Saharan Spy was so fucking fun before the nerf.
I'm still salty about them suddenly getting rid of the set bonus because I actually bought that set from the store.
>>343298585
Frontier Justice + Gunslinger combo
>1 assist = 1 free crit
>>343302216
>underused
>>343301917
What are flares
>>343301983
Every minigun has knockback though
Pretty good if you can aim your shots well enough, really wish it could be used by engy and pyro.
>>343302943
since when?
I haven't played TF2 in years, but I'm considering reinstalling it. How is the game these days?
>>343303619
Do you like virtual hats?
>>343301730
>Rocket Jumper + mantreads + shovel
>The only way to play soldier.
This is when TF2 died
>>343303310
Dunno, I remember sitting under the robot spawn, shooting upward and making robo-heavies go to space using stock back when MvM came out
>>343303619
Nothing changed since like 4-5 years aside from Mann vs Machine
>>343303756
I never really cared that much about the hats. I think it was around 2013 when I stopped playing, so I already know about Valve's hat obsession.
And then it got nerfed.
>>343300591
Visage is one of those heroes that can't be "perfectly" balanced without a complete rehaul, just like Huskar.
>>343299062
>replace crits with jump
I fucking hate valve.
And yet demoman will never get a nerf because the """""""""""competitive""""""""""" players would never allow it
>>343303619
crouching "friendly" heavies and rocket jumping market garden soldiers everywhere
don't do it
Is mic spamming still around?
>>343304456
Only on trade servers
>>343304456
Yea but you have to put more effort into your spam since HLDJ was disabled on most servers.
>>343298585
>underused
>natascha
do you never play HL games or something
>>343304207
Still manages to be a tremendous pain in the ass.
My penis
I miss TF2 so much
>>343304207
It got buffed again that it still can be a menace, not as bad but it's more useful now since Christmas
>>343300898
Maybe if you can't track
I hardly see this used since every other soldier is either staying with the stock launcher or the fucking Black Box.
>>343304207
Not airblasting is pretty shit
>>343298719
point and click Red Death
arena was funny
>>343304207
>playing 2Fort
>in my team's base
>phlog pyro comes in, taunts
>watch as team tries to kill him through uber instead of running into sentry cover
>>343305852
>playing 2Fort
You were asking for it.
>>343305579
because it's a colossal joke to other soldiers, really
there's only one reason I won't play 2fort and hightower, because it validates the existence of the sniper
snipers are not required, and they are not preferred
they are a garbage class, a garbage addition to the team, and are played by garbage subhumans
Faggot soldiers are always using meme melee weapons instead of this for some reason.
>>343306172
>snipers are not required, and they are not preferred
The whole highlander strategy is build around keeping sniper alive.
They are the most commonly picked situational utility in 6v6 .
Good snipers dominate pubs.
Not to mention 2fort and hightower are pretty bad for a sniper since in 2fort all the action takes place in cramped interiors and in hightower rocket jumping soldiers are too much of a nuisance.
>>343306421
>not using Escape Plan
>>343303310
It's not obvious on the ground, but when you jump you get sent flying back. On the ground it's just a little harder to move forward if he's shooting you.
>>343298585
>>343306421
Disciplinary is for rollouts and when the team is full of heavies
Escape Plan for every other moment in a match
>>343298719
It's still pretty fucking good.
>Mfw sniping enemy steam with tomislav.
>>343304207
What a disaster. Although a Vaccinator Medic absolutely shut it down.
Didn't they get rid of item sets?
That shit was the best.
>>343306421
It's all I use.
>dat 10 foot range
>>343307431
They realised that item sets with gameplay effects made their game pay-to-win, so they reverted them to being purely cosmetic.
Perfectly valid action if you ask me.
>>343299271
Not just dispensers, any teammates will do
>>343307431
I could guess a couple reasons
>unituitive
>difficult to balance
>pay2win
>>343304368
I miss running around and preparing for full mini crit pan action.
>>343299062
And with this I was a lightning flurry of pans.
>>343301778
I want a recipe for fishcake.
>>343299660
Set bonuses were bullshit and I loved using that full set.
>>343301157
That weapon was a straight upgrade, buddy. I'd personally still say the two halves are decent.
>>343301983
The slow and the normal minigun knockback compound to make it really hard to fight against a natascha heavy alone.
>>343307104
This shit is crucial to know, I've escaped heavies loads of times by jumping while they fire at me for the extra boost.
>>343303103
Pyro or engie with that would be rather overly strong. I could see people fooling around as shotgun pyros way more often.
>>343304207
A menace only if nobody is a fucking soldier.
>>343305579
That's because it's bad.
>>343306421
>>343307571
Broken as shit range, good for S&M play too.
>>343307431
they made it cosmetic only like giving spy fart gas during taunt
>>343301157
When they nerfed the heavy with damage falloff.
>>343299660
>tfw this one shots light classes with a body shot still
>>343298585
>your old community will never come back
>>343308019
>tfw old community dead
>still hang with leaders
>watching as the main guy behind it slowly go crazy because he doesn't have a community anymore
RIPBrothers Googly, you were pretty good.
pre-nerf was better than the stock launcher imo
>>343298730
>Did they remove the 'bottle smashes when you crit' animation?
>why the fuck would valve nerf Demoman in such a way
The 2 different explanations I've heard are
>retards were standing around in spawn smashing the bottle because they thought a broken bottle did more damage
and
>when valve swapped over to the new model system it just broke and they haven't bothered fixing it yet
>>343308019
>gamemode madness is dead
Whats even the purpose of playing this shit anymore
>>343298585
OP A BLATANT SHILL, CANT U FUCKING SEE IT? FUCKING BUNCH OF LOSERS
>>343298719
>tomislav
It's never over kid, prepare for OP swiss cheesing at a distance.
>>343301157
Original Equalizer was OP, even if it was fun. I would have preferred seeing a bigger downside on it rather than the split, though.
Escape Plan is still OP even post-split. Competitive Soldier mains rarely use anything else (maybe Pain Train, or Disciplinary Action for whip rollouts when it's unbanned).
>>343303619
Slightly improved balance (they've made missteps, but they've made more improvements than they have fuck-ups thankfully)
More weapons and maps, nearly 170 weapons and 90 maps to choose from. Also, weapon skins.
>>343299062
BFB was the trashiest shit after it's initial rework
I'll pull a No True Scotsman and say that any real Scout main refused to use that shit after it's buff because of how broken it was
There were NO downsides when you could jump for near free (25% PENALTY, THAT'S IT), Crit to mid as fast as a normal Scout, and still engage/disengage against anyone in the game short of a Sniper in a hallway
It deserved to be fucking gutted, but I don't know why they didn't just restore it to release state, were it was niche and nothing more
FUCK rework BFB
Is TF2 worth re-installing?
>>343306421
Absolutely fucking broken, actually needs a nerf ASAP. Yet so few seem to realize.
>lets you whip Heavies to mid, whip your Medic along with you more quickly, or boost a Scout up to 153% speed, along with boosting your own speed for 3.6 seconds per whip
>longest melee range in the game
>only downside is doing 16 less damage when you hardly ever use your melee for damage as Soldier anyway
Think we're getting the update tonight?
>>343308849
Tonight or tomorrow for sure.
Confirmed so far is 4 taunts, maybe some kind of SFM video to do with Saxton Hale, and competitive matchmaking, and something mysteriously referred to by b4nny as "good for casual players as well as competitive players", but apart from that we know nothing.
>>343299118
No it only smashed on a crit, idiot.
>>343306421
After the initial Equalizer nerf, this is the best overall by far
Market Gardener is very situational, and Escape Plan after its nerf is only for roamers' rollouts
>>343309016
Are the taunts confirmed yet?
Are we getting taunts that aren't retarded dance shit for once?
>>343308840
Possibly. There is a rather large update coming out "just around the corner" (confirmed by b4nny, slin, and geelkike the reddit nigger)
https://twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/729824004215689217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYxGGI8O8JM
Wait until the update comes out, if it has anything you like the sound of, then go ahead and reinstall. If it's a disappointment you saved yourself a re-download.
>>343308442
>Update
Shill, a free game? That's probably older than you are? uhh huh.
>>343309248
We don't know what they are, just that they exist. The 4 "private" videos at the bottom of this list. The same thing happened before Gun Mettle came out
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHy7G7ndrUmq933tLi_nTlFlvmJKZpmAi
My money's on the Engineer gameboy taunt, the Pyro fire-lighting taunt, and the Heavy thinker taunt.
>>343299073
Spycicle is fucking gay and you should be ashamed for using it.
>>343308019
>play with group since pyro update
>endless hours on custom server
>played all the way from competitive to fucking around on cyberpunk
>goof around during the golden wrenches
>party when someone on the server finally got one
>everything going fine all the way up to pyromania
>server and group suddenly just deleted without warning
>admin says "real life stuff was happening and never went online again
>all those hours gone, like tears in the rain
>>343304368
>demo man will never get a nerf
>sticky launcher literally half as effective as in 2013 because of arm times
Fucking retard, please don't discuss a game you've played for less than 6 months
>>343309259
>Inb4 it's End of The Line all over again
>>343309490
>>343299073
spy mains like stabby actually consider spycicle UP
consider the following: you see a Medic, you're posed for the stab, but you get hit by a stray flame particle. Suddenly you're incapable of going in for the kill
for pub play spycicle is passable, but for a serious game, it's kind of shit
>>343309259
>implying it's not just boring competitive shit and a few cosmetics
>>343309681
There will at least definitely be competitive matchmaking this time around, so that's something.
EOTL was shit because everyone was expecting weapons, a map, an SFM, cosmetics and taunts but we just got a reskin, no map, the SFM, and a shit cosmetic and one taunt
>>343309684
>spy mains
>stabby
Couldn't discard the opinion any harder.
>>343298585
Carbine before it got changed into mini-crits instead of crits.
>>343309838
why?
but fine take corsa instead, I don't think I've ever seen him use spycicle once EVER and i watch his shit near-religiously
spycicle's benefit only applies when pyros are around, yet that same benefit also fucks you. And its downside applies all the rest of the time (making your presence more obvious)
>>343303103
Nah, more like this shit right here. Im pretty good with scout so this automatically makes you a near unstoppable force if you use this shit. Its so fun to fuck with people with unlimited firepower.
If the family business could be used by engy, the widowmaker would still be a direct upgrade to it. There's no downside to using it if you have your shit built.
>>343309684
I agree.
But the one effect it has is a direct middle finger to your hard counter. Combined with dead ringer and a spy can survive about 2 solid seconds of flame before being caught on fire.
It would be like giving engineer the razorback. No purpose and is outclassed by his other options, just an annoying counter to a class that should beat him.
The core of the game is still great, but the community is beyond being AIDS, ultimately the reason why I switched to overwatch.
Not saying Genji / Widowmaker teams are fine, but they are way more Spy / Sniper stacked teams either way in tf2, and that goes for the duraiton of the fucking server.
>>343309684
But nobody would play pyro in a "serious" game.
>>343310201
I'll admit it's not common but it happens on some maps, plus pyros are a common feature at last defences; it's somewhere around about this point in the video where a spy is going for a pick and gets killed by a pyro
https://youtu.be/o0H75bMDNGs?t=2053
anyway, if the enemy isn't running pyro, why are you running spycicle? it doesn't actually kill silently and it leaves great big ice statues everywhere
>>343309684
>spy mains
>>343310183
Overwatch is extremely casual though and there isn't anywhere near the gameplay options available.
In TF2, you can have 3 demos playing completely different ways. Overwatch is just the same thing over and over.
>>343309016
I'm getting Deja vu here. Did you answer this question yesterday? I got a very similar answer.
>>343310089
annoying sure, but not really effective. Getting hit by a puff of flame lets the Spy live, but also reduces him to a budget Sniper for the duration of the recharge
there are really far worse weapons than spycicle to complain about in this game since the nerf
>>343310183
>and that goes for the duraiton of the fucking server
I just tell the enemy team to start playing pyro because we have 4 spies, and they all disperse
but honestly play on 5CP servers, actually halfway passable players (too scared/lazy to play comp, but too competent for 2fort servers) flock to them
>>343310539
Blizzard better put dedicated servers and custom maps into Overwatch. Custom sprays too. There's no way it's gonna be the TF2 killer if I can't play a 24/7 all crit low gravity mariokart server filled with furry porn sprays.
>>343304628
HLDJ has unusable for years already.
Just get a music player like Foobar, a script to keep your microphone on, and learn how to redirect your music player's feed into your microphone feed.
It's easier than you think, you can easily find tutorials.
Mic spamming will never die.
>>343309509
I know that feel man
I was even the guy on the server that got a golden wrench
Bring back the original baby face's blaster
>>343299660
generating more salt all the worlds salt mines combined
>>343306421
that extra range is perfect for when a scout thinks hes being slick. crit that mother fucker if he tries to jump over me
![Panic_Attack[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/A0uE03a.png "Panic_Attack[1].png")
Please don't nerf it, I love using it.
>>343309259
>that video
I've never seen someone spend 16 minutes to talk about absolutely nothing.
This game is old and busted.
>b-but competitive matchmaking will save it!
No it won't. The majority have moved on and aren't going to come back just to pay more money to play a shitty game mode.
TF2 is dead. Deal with it.
Official servers were a mistake
>>343312269
>>343312269
fifty thousand players per day is good for a nine year game.
Are rd_asteroid and cactus canyon out of beta yet
>>343312269
>dead
It's still the 3rd most played game on Steam behind Dota 2 and CS:GO.
>>343312643
Delete this right now.
>>343312643
So? PC has nothing else to play.
>>343308743
>release state
shit was almost as bad as it is now.
>>343312858
Losing speed on damage taken is the real killer for the weapon, a trait it didn't used to have
Not that I care; that thing can stay in Dumpster Hell for all eternity
>>343304434
I started playing TF2 again recently, and I've yet to see a friendly heavy, and the only market garden soldiers I've seen were on high tower
>>343312993
>Losing speed on damage taken is the real killer for the weapon, a trait it didn't used to have
fully correct
>less variety is good
not correct.
>>343312269
>Message from Blizzard Entertainment
>$0.03 has been deposited into your account.
kys
>>343313170
You first, kid.
>>343312721
But I thought the game was dead.
Make up your mind.
>>343304207
Not being able to airblast always made it pretty useless.
>>343313323
It is dead and it'll never go back to the way it was. You missed out. Sucks for you.
>>343313170
tf2 is dead
you mad 9 digit shitty? you mad you never got to experience the game when it was good?
haha
>>343313163
Sidegrades shouldn't be better than stock, and the BFB blatantly was
It was a fun concept, but they overbuffed it, and thenrightfully, fuck youovernerfed it
Short Stop is a good example of a viable sidegrade, as is post-rework Soda Popper
FaN is the same as always in a good way
Back Shitter is trash, and I hope you understand why so I don't have to write another dumb paragraph
>>343310087
>drop mini
>shoot an idiot
>drop another mini
>repeat
>>343313438
>it's good they overnerfed it
No, it should be viable, not crap. Just because it was once too good doesn't mean you should go overboard and "get revenge" against something that's just a fucking item.
>short stop is viable
nope
>FaN is viable side grade
Nope.
>back shitter is trash
at least you're not completely wrong.
Again.
More viable options is better. Not less.
>>343304207
more like clearly fucking overrated retard magnet
>marked for death while active
nobody asked for this, you were beautiful
>>343312643
you know your favorite game is dead when even the bronies and furries are giving up on it
>>343313419
I've been here since the Goldrush update. I haven't missed much.
And vanilla servers are a thing. You just gotta know where to look.
>>343313826
It was well deserved.
>tfw pocket pistol nerf
>tfw the GOAT scout loadout of scatter/pocket/atomizer is no longer relevant
>>343298585
Pre-nerf Shortstop was the greatest thing ever.
>2016
>Playing TF2
Overwatch already released boys
>>343313826
It's a pretty minor nerf in my opinion. I don't ever pull it out mid-fight, so I'll never get killed trying to escape.
Plus when you're already on low health, you're gonna keel over to the next thing that hits you regardless of mini-crits.
>>343313934
Am I supposed to be impressed? I've been here since the beta.
>>343313826
Never understood why they did that. I mean you benefit from it the most when you're near death's door anyhow, so why the need to make yourself even more likely to die?
Sure, the split itself might've been well deserved, but it'd make more sense to have the Equalizer mark you while Escape Plan reduces heals.
>>343314163
i have no money and overwatch's art style doesn't appeal to me
>>343313951
Letting the enemy team know you were a couple pistol shots away from death was enough of a balance anyway, its the crying babbys who can't shoot fast targets and actually let themselves get meleed by escape plan users that complained
I never heard anybody complain about the escape plan, and I was on the tf2 general all the time before the update hit
>>343301157
>they didn't make the damage one the original model and the speed one a white flag
cmon Valve, that shit wrote itself
>>343314285
>translation: i have a shitty PC that can barely run Source games and my parents refuse to buy me a new one :(((
Enjoy playing Garry's Mod for the rest of your life.
>>343314202
>but it'd make more sense to have the Equalizer mark you while Escape Plan reduces heals.
But the Equalizer's draw is being viable in melee, not getting you torn to shreds faster.
And it's honestly kind of bad as is.
>>343314391
you seem very insecure about people not playing overwatch
>>343314469
Fair enough. All I'm trying to say really is that the Escape Plan makes for a shitty getaway.
>>343314335
The soldier already can move faster than scout speed with rocket jump. Stop demanding that you need more than you deserve you stupid jew.
>Having a nice TF2 thread
>Overmeme fucks come to shill their shitty game
every time
>>343314657
It's an actual shill, just ignore him.
>>343314391
I own Overwatch and honestly after I had learned the characters I didnt have any motivation to play anymore. there are no custom servers or anything. just console tier matchmaking
>>343314391
Overwatch actually runs better than TF2.
>>343314714
It's still as good for getaways as it was before, you just have to be a bit smarter about when you whip it out.
>>343314796
TF2 is old and shit.
>>343314202
>Never understood why they did that.
Because the soldier is already the best fucking class that does fucking everything you dumb fuck.
>>343308019
>Was a mod forGolden Machine Gun
>Was going fine
>Until one day the main honcho decides that he loves an underage kid
>He starts kissing his ass but nobody thought of it
>The kid was actually cool, wasn't a screamo tard
>Then all of a sudden, main honcho confesses his love to him and the kid says "no way fag"
>Servers go down, dude tries to kill himself but chickens out
>Servers come back up later and honcho demods the kid and most of the admins who thought was fine, which basically killed the server from that point forward
>Honcho tries to bring up the server again, "reborn" and all that shit, and it dies because nobody cared anymore
It was a weird time
>>343314335
>its the crying babbys...
He said whilst throwing a tantrum over a weapon nerf in TF2
>Dead Ringer got nerfed so I can no longer play decoy with charging snipers without actually getting killed
>>343314714
Escape plan is still overpowered actually, its a straight upgrade over the shovel when you just need to get to a health kit and don't have enough health to jump and it has utility too like fast rollouts. Soldier never uses his melee for damage anyway he's just too slow with the shovel to hit anything. The only way soldier should be able to move faster is rocket jumps period, for a class with no direct counters that is supposed to be one of his downsides.
It's legit fun and it's 2x more fun when you know how to use it.
>>343315240
all of soldier's melee as upgrades over the shovel.
>>343315401
firing it into crowds and fucking up retreating enemies because hitboxes?
>>343314182
Fantastic.
But the game's dead, right? So what does it matter.
>>343299467
>>343299504
>>343305715
>>343308454
>>343298719
Did you forget about me cocksuckerssss MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
>>343306572
Most high level highlander players hate sniper. He forces your whole team to hide until he's dead. He has more OP unlocks than any other class too and hackers flock to that shitty class.
Sniper in 6s is pretty silly too. That you can run one to mid and potentially wipe their whole team is fucking retarded.
The game would benefit immensely if sniper was removed. Imagine no more 4 snipers on every pub. Imagine being able to push without worrying if some chucklefuck 10 miles away is going to bodyshot you with the machina.
>>343312995
They are called "memes" for a reason, mate.
>>343315679
>you will never have more health than a Soldier as a Pyro
>>343315419
I'd argue HZ and equalizer aren't.
Escape plan is just the worst offender since it mediates a core downside of the class.
>>343303619
It's absolutely terrible and unplayable. However, a new update is apparently coming and it will bring competitive matchmaking. So yeah, if there's any reason to reinstall the game, it's that.
>it now gives the Heavy a speed boost just for equipping it just like the Gloves of Running Urgently
>it does so without any long-lasting damage penalty or downside whatsoever
People still think it's shit so keep it a secret you fucking faggots
>>343301157
>Soldier has an OP weapon
>VALVe nerfs it so hard it breaks into two pieces
>Demo has an OP weapon combo
>VALVe does nothing but release new variations
This is why I stopped playing TF2. VALVe fucking sucks, and their continued encouragement of the Nigger Knight set was the last straw.
I play Overwatch now, Blizzard actually cares about fun and keeping balance instead of letting the players shout GIT GUD FGT all day long.
>>343316017
still doesnt punch as fast as i would like
>>343316017
IMO it's the best melee heavy has since GRU nerf. Also getting kills with it is one of the most satisfying things in TF2.
>>343316149
>Demoknight
>OP
>>343316157
It really deserves custom animations for more fluid looking punches
>>343314725
>rocket jumping away from enemies as a reason for not needing a weapon specifically designed for escaping with <20hp
The escape plan is a sidegrade that allows quick escape on foot when health is too low to jump, it also (used to) make you vulnerable as fuck even for a few moments after you reach your med. Any scout or roamer with gamesense could chase and kill a pre-nerf escape plan user, given most of the time they'd be heading towards a medkit/spawn room. It made them easy to cut off and corner.
>>343315152
Is this what a tantrum is in your world?
>>343316149
They nerfed him a lot in the last update.
>>343316017
>playing this on a 10x server while having crits
Those Saxton Hale 10x servers.
>>343316287
>tfw all the fantstic weapons on workshop that won't get accepted because they use different animations
>>343315913
HZ was buffed. You can unequip it now t the cost of 50hp
>>343316389
>panic attack
>10x
What a feeling.
>>343316017
What I would love is if they could greatly amp the speed of this thing in cost of damage of course.
Just because it would be way more fun using it then.
>>343316571
I know. I'd still rather have shovel over it because it can't crit.
>>343308324
I remember when custom game modes were all the shit. What happened to it all?
Those Slag servers used to be really populated too. It's kind of crazy seeing them all dead now.
>>343316789
>relying on crits
>playing on servers with crits
>>343316306
>rocket jumping away from enemies
Already wrong 5 words in.
Rocket jump can be used as a navigational tool as soldier or to chase down fleeing targets to as a roll out or for a million other tools to make it more mobile than just about anything else and allow you to rocket jump from one healthkit to the next with nobody but demoman being able to catch up to you and you don't even need the escape plan.
>>343299062
>BFB on CTF
>enemy scout zips in and take the intel before our engineer even gets his sentry upgraded
that thing was bullshit with max speed and scouts and source engines wonky hitboxes
fuck that piece of shit
>>343316017
You forgot the fact that the damage output is garbage. Unless you're landing every hit, you're gonna wind up dying.
Any good animation mods? Kinda sick of the lazy animations Valve do.
>>343316995
Melee crits go up to 60% when you've done a lot of damage. It's basically free kills and you would be foolish not to use it.
No crit servers don't exist. If you want to play a normal game, you're stuck with valve servers.
>>343316823
Is the warioware server dead?
>>343317103
Maybe you should read the rest of his post
>escaping with <20 hp
I have played for around 1700 hours, mainly playing as Engineer and Pyro
Now I have decided to play as Heavy, with a little help of my healslutlassiefriend of mine
I'm having a blast with this class, I can't believe I ignored it for so long
One thing worth mentioning, Heavy is easy to play, but at the same time, 'hard' to play
Easy to play, because:
>Huge DPS output primary with plenty of ammo, and no damage fall off while crit boosted
>Sandvich
>GRU, Killing Gloves of Boxing and Steel gauntlets
>300 hp, and 450 hp wile overhealed
But what makes Heavy hard to play, is that you're so strong and so dangerours, you basically become a mobile human target for assasins, say Sniper and Spies, and you can be easily focused down by an co-ordinated (surprise surprise) enemy team. Without a medic a heavy really struggles to fight, with competent soldiers, snipers and spies around.
Lastly, how easy is to earn the trust of a Medic by throwing that little healwhore my sandviches and by turning back often.
>>343317287
Gonna shill a friend's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bvq5LISWow
>>343317290
You wouldn't even be able to hit said enemies without some kind of speed boost though.
>DUDE TF2 IS SHIT AND IT'S DEAD, EVERYONE IS PLAYING OVERWATCH NOBODY PLAYS THAT OUTDATED SHIT
>meanwhile is still playing the game and having a blast
Maybe people say TF2 is shit now because the updates fucked it up and it's very old as a multiplayer game and lost his old charm a little bit, but i don't fucking care, for me the game it's still alive as long i found servers full of people that i can play with.
I am still going to but Overwatch but i really think that nobody is going to make me stop playing TF2 anytime soon.
>>343317596
Whoops meant >>343317167
>>343317504
>Why doesn't my class have an option for every scenario? :(
Dunno
>>343317287
>Still playing with viewmodels
>>343317615
Or maybe it's because they're underage and/or shitposters.
>>343317773
I am not a pro highlander 6vs6 anon
>>343298585
Loch N Load was the most op shit if you knew how to aim. I miss it.
>>343317615
Lain a slut
post yfw you're not this guy
>>343306421
> people shit on the disciplinary action
> not being a team player and helping your team zerg the field before anyone can set up defence
>>343318028
>tfw it gets tons of crits
>has range of eyelander with no downside
>>343318005
How do you want your trading privileges, senpai?
>>343318170
As far I know, it gets even a bigger range than the Eyelander
It's a joy to kill pestering Scouts with the whip
